/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Relative beginner here, I've got a question for you guys.
What process do you use when making your stuff?
What order do you do things in?

didnt post here in a while hi all
have a cute dose.

sketch then correct and redraw, start from there
there isn't a mandatory order, but if you do fundies one step at a time you'll learn basics faster

otherwise you will just try shortcuts to fake out how real world behaves

Who here /loomis-lacking weebshit/?
(Also please don't pay too much attention to those so-called hands, I still haven't finished Hogarth's Dynamic Hands, amongst other things.)

>>2720754
Take another look at that Logan fampai, he looks like a man-shaped pancake. I've also got some issues with Jubilee's right arm. Neat drawing otherwise.

btw the old thread had a post every hour to half-hour at the beginning, what's up with this one? It can't be that our fellow d/ic/ks are out there being social on a Friday night, can it?

>>2720663
Gesture/sketch. Start constructing forms. Go smoke. Look for perspective/form flaws. Fix. Line work. Paint. Look again at a later time; if garbage, restart.

>>2720732
>>2720754
>>2720819
Damn, all these good artwork. Good start to this thread.

>>2720857
>Damn, all these good artwork. Good start to this thread.

>>2720857

>>2720863
>>2720878
leave anon alone, he was just being polite :'(

Also, I fucked up her right shoulder, didn't I (yes, I do know that it's only the tip of the iceberg)?

>>2720819
>>2720900

Why can't you motherfuckers ever think in 3 dimensions when drawing this shit

It's so flat you could roll it up and drop it down your urethra

>>2720922
thanks fampai

>>2720900
Looks fine to me. I don't get it.

you guys like my werewolf?

My dream is to become an animator. i want to one day work on Naruto.

>>2720956
I don't know if bait/troll post, but I think the colors are nice. From the thumbnail I thought it was some sort of cool mildly abstract art instead of just.. well.. whatever it is

>>2720959
>well.. whatever it is

It's tender.

>>2720956
>one day work on Naruto
Naruto is over though. That's actually an impossible dream.

>>2720963
nothing is impossible. NOTHING.

>>2720963
still impossible even if it was still going

>>2720956

>one day work on Naruto


Why are you actively trying to give people pounding headaches

>>2720965
Thats wrong

>>2721086
Please.

Evaluate on that buddy.

Just doodling.

>>2721092
>doodling
>looks like god damn pro stuff
Nice, blog? Also how long you been drawing?

Was going for something kawaiii. my sister taught me to draw anime.

I'm 25, been drawing for 10 years now.

Just a quick one!

>>2720922
my, what a terrifying stand

>>2721094
>goddamn pro stuff

Speaking of terrifying standards....

>>2721094
>goddamn pro stuff

my ,what terrifying standards

>>2721102
this is shit.

>>2721110
A shit joke, anyway.

>>2721102
You do porn?

test

>>2721146
Holy shit. Blog?

It's so good and I don't think I've seen this style before.

>>2721146
Very solid understanding of form, perspective and whats appealing, qt
>>2721161
nice meme

What makes a drawing interesting guys? i feel like my drawings are really plain.

>>2721301
Well, to be honest, I like it, but it could be better although it's enough at this point in my opinion. One thing could be that you could make her pose more dynamic and that would really pump the viewer up. Also adding things in the background, midground to work a composition that really works up the eyes.

Some little cartridge bots

>>2721305
Blog? This is good stuff. I'm so jealous of your ability that I don't even want to continue doing art now.

>>2721305
thdark.tumblr.com
Don't give up man, I know the feeling of wanting to quit when looking at other artists. I struggle with that.
These little bots actually came out of that kind of feeling, I recently discovered AndroidArts' art and tried to do something inspired by his work instead of defeating myself over it.

>>2721306
thdark.tumblr.com
Don't give up man, I know the feeling of wanting to quit when looking at other artists. I struggle with that.
These little bots actually came out of that kind of feeling, I recently discovered AndroidArts' art and tried to do something inspired by his work instead of defeating myself over it.

>>2720963
while naruto being over is true, he can still accomplish his dream

he could get gud and in 20 years from now on start his own nabuto series inspired by naruto

>>2721109
it looks pro stuff tho, but not master level

professional level == good enough to make a PROFit out of it (and you can't tell me adventure time does not do profit)

>>2721301
>What makes a drawing interesting?
knowledge, show you know how light works, how hair bends, how cloths fold, how muscle relax or contract, how skin folds over those muscles etc

>>2721161

I tried to redesign a kaiju.

>>2720857
u know nothing, jon snow

>>2721301
there are 2 dimensions
fundies quality and communication

a study can be interesting and it doesn't communicate shit, it's just an analysis trought drawing

understanding of fundies give interests on themselves
you're stuck with thinking 2d flat shapes, so when you start trying to nail forms you'll improve it

then there's subjective value of w/e you've done and how you've approached it, what makes it designed, memorable, visually stimultating or w/e

when you start trying to brainstorm before starting you'll improve it

>>2721420
When are you going to stop polishing turds?

>>2721424
y not give a good crit instead
oh wait you can't do more than shitpost

>>2721420
Really like this. Her (stage) left upper arm should be visible below her palm, though. It also looks short.

>>2721425
>y not give a good crit instead
You never listen, so I rather not waste my time. You're a memelord who draws popular crap but still never get the hits your clearly pandering for. You also delude yourself into thinking you have a firm grasp on half the shit you try to talk about. It's comical. PS:Logan looks flat as a pancake.

>>2721425
this guy is kinda bitchy, but he's right you know.

>>2721430
is meant to be insulting, but you could take the advice without the insult. Like seriously, do you really mean anybody to tell you that logan looks fucking awful?

>>2721424
this is not shit posting. he's got a point. he just needs to further evaluate the feces.

>>2721420
traced?

>>2721420
what is going on with this background? the foreground is line art and the background is painted or blocked in. You gotta keep your style consistent man. looks so bad.

>>2721430
>you never listen
you might get better results out of your critiques if you put a sightly more effort to be accurate, not asking you to be friendly, but accurate
and put an effort to understand what you're giving crit to, it's not a finished pic, it's a sketch with some parts of it way more loosely because It's for testing where to go

if you take implications about how far from finished a sketch is you're gonna make bad judgements by routine

there's no render or accurate drawing on logan, just like the thing at the bg which is meant to be a centinel's giant forearm-hand, but I don't need anything else than that blob to compose the pic, lighting and color quickly

>>2721432
i'm not posting early steps to get told about something without any form/render work is lacking form/render work, I know that
that step is supposed to come on top of it, and it's not there yet

I could understand a critique about how I failed to do that step, but otherwise it seems a missunderstanding

>>2721435
I traced a pancake to do logan desu

>>2721438
it's meant to do so, ground or bg hasn't been drawn, just filled with shapes to establish everything early, early steps shouldn't be final unless you don't plan to improve it or you plan to just 1:1 copy it

>>2713855
more cookies

it's been a few years since I drew something, and I never got beyond doodling, but my friends gifted me a drawing tablet so I tried my hand at it. is there any beginner resource I should look at in particular?

>>2721469
solid drawing apart from the eye and forehead, try looking at how real eyes look from the side and then stylize

>>2721471
yes, that's the part I was troubled with
this should also mean that I'm ought to go through loomis first then, I imagine?

>>2721475
i'd suggest vilppu over loomis
vilppu's all about that lifelike flow
loomis is very regimented in construction, very stiff

>>2721476
I have looked into it and I'm probably going through both
thanks for the help!

>>2721487

>>2721488
neato.
what would you tell to people who want to learn how to draw backgrounds/settings like this?

>>2721146
personally i find it weird when the chinline is drawn like that. it looks like the chin is fusing with the nack at places where it shouldnt..
if you color it it probably wont be a problem but as linework it never looks good imo.

>>2721420
I like the girl a lot, she a qt. Great work. I don't understand the lighting yet, but I have high hopes for this piece. I don't like the violent background, but that's just a matter of personal taste.

>>2721517
Don't know. Scribble a lot, throw away bad ones, pick good ones and fix it, maybe?

Lots of books and music might help.

>>2721487
Good sketches man, what's your blog?

>>2721487
>>2721488
>>2721550
BLOOOOOOG

>>2721468
cutie

>>2721301
what makes drawings interesting? why are you drawing this? what is she doing?

blog?

holy shit that's comfy. blog?

Small sketch of my OC
>donutsteel

>>2721692
holey shit that's comfy.

>>2721487
>>2721488
>>2721550
>no one remembers that line work
Really /ic/?

>>2721464
>it's not a finished pic, it's a sketch with some parts of it way more loosely because It's for testing where to go
That's not a valid excuse for why your under drawings is so flat.

>>2721808

>>2721821
Your style reminds me of those early-00s "manga" like Megatokyo.

Orthodox icons do, strictly speaking, count as alternative stylizations, don't they?

(pic related but obviously not my own work)

>>2721850
top kek/10

Character designs for a webcomic idea. I haven't had anytime to draw because of school so most of these were drawn weeks apart and unfinished. Some of the faces are inconsistent too but its a start.

>>2720535
how's my goblin?

quick color test

>>2721871
they are fairly appealing fampai, what's the webcomic about?

>>2721903
it looks nice, keep it up famalam

>>2721885
I'm not nearly qualified enough to comment on the anatomy or construction, but I'm sorry to say that THAT thing is some 2005 Newgrounds-tier unappealing shit, man. Also, it's stiff as fuck.

>>2721850
too many pancakes/10
Better luck next time.

>>2721912
>Not taking the advantage of saying "butter luck next time".


You sicken me

>>2721908
Huh... What? I stopped reading after not qualified enough to comment.

>>2721950
they made good points though, even they dont have the drawing ability to do better. the drawing is pretty stiff and feels like it came from a 90's coloring book

>>2721850
Alolan Raichu?

trying to get a feel for Draaaaven's face, for maybe a comic.

>>2721935

Sometimes those sort of jokes just don't pan out.

>>2721871
Blog? I wanna read the comic when it starts.

>>2721871
>>2721908
Thanks anon. I have a plot kind of laid out but it's very messy at the moment and it could change. So I don't want to say anything plot wise till I figure it out. The girl with the long hair and bow is the main character though.

>>2722118
http://pengooowin.tumblr.com/
I plan on starting it sometime in December when school chills out for a moment and I can finally piece the story together. Also thanks for being interested anon. Much appreciated.

squats

>>2721992
>you're strong aren't ya? I can feel it
cringe tbqh family. Draaaaaven doesn't enter in power level fights. You could replace strong with skillful

I like your lines like usual

>>2722298
Why are the facial features so small in comparison to the rest of the head?

no reaction in the draw thread, maybe here...

>>2721714
I am not such a old fag, does he have a blog?

>>2722349
>oldfag
>you had to be there for something like a month to know the guy
wew lad

>>2722298
Fix the hair, it makes his head seem dis proportioned .

>>2722298

christ ive been laughing at this thumbnail for hours

i like the rendering though

>>2722350
I've been here for 2+ years

I remember seeing that line work just once, and back, just like, NO FUCKING BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG

>>2722389
just once before, and back then, just like now,

wtf is wrong with me today?

>>2722389
are you having a stroke my friend

>>2722298
>Light Yagami fucked Kirsten Stewart

>>2722347
thumbnail looks like the cross section of a huge ass sandwich was shopped in going across the bottom, i honestly expected a very lewd image

especially to someone who has no idea what the subject matter is the composition is atrocious

>>2722298
The rendering is nice, the proportions on the other hand..

Here's something I finished the other day. I'm still trying to get a grasp on not-basic lighting.

>>2721359
This is cool. You should thicken/darken your lines in certain places though, like in places where two forms meet (for example, where the arms connect to the torso, where the thigh overlaps the calf, etc). Right now your lineweights are pretty inconsistent.

>>2722406
There we go.
Just gonna chalk it up to "spent too much time looking at it".

>>2722439
You need to think properly about how your light sources hit the forms. The purple rim lighting especially is all over the place.

>>2722347
What are you looking for exactly?
The only thing I can say is that it isn't very clear what I'm looking at or what you're trying to portray so I guess that would be a start.
There's a point where something is so stylized that it's near impossible to critique, I understand that it's your preference but if people can't understand what they're supposed to be looking at to begin with, they usually won't have much to say about it.
I dunno if that helps, but good luck.

>>2722406
thanks senpai I see what you mean

>>2722461
Noted.

>>2722275
>...and then she farts!

>>2721305
I follow you and everytime I look at your lines and overall polish I want to kill myself. Good shit.

>>2721359
Good construction, but very boring design. You missed everything that made the original interesting.

>>2721359
Dude it doesn't even have tits. Get it together.

>>2722579
>>2721359

Kek, now I want to see more people's take on it and try my own. There should be a challenge/roll thread with rubber suit kaiju.

>>2722579
Less tits more chub.

>>2721359
>>2722579

Beware the render goblin!

>>2722406
The proportions are fucked, yes, but you'll need way stronger on it than that.

>>2722614
Looks like a level 4 Rendergoblin to me.

>>2722614
>>2722618
Maybe the level cap is 100. Look, he still wears the starting zone line sketch.

>>2722630
but how does a lvl 100 render goblin look tho?

>>2722614
are gaingoblins his nemesis?

Haven't drawn in a while but felt shitting something quick out for Inktober before it ends- a mini series I'm doing.

I need to actually get my ass on perspective and stop half assing drawing but I've been bad moods and school unrelated to art.

playin around with robot parts. How do i render this without fucking up?

>>2722238
your blog is amazing but it slowed my whole browser down

>>2722889
nice

>>2722275

>>2721850
B E S T OF THREAD

>>2721908
Are you the nice lad from the old tower girl threads? I like you.

from the last thread

>>2722347
thats a really interesting lining/drawing style. works very well with the background character, less so for the foremost. perhaps look at a reference for her face, it looks a litttle wonky.

Draw.

>>2721550
BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOg

>>2722654
Obviously

>>2722990
The linework makes me think you draw porn primarily.

>>2721146
>XxX_PuSsY_sL4y3r69_XxX.deviantart.com

>>2723006
jesus fuck.
loomis my friend

>>2723088
i needed someone to say that.
I appericate it my dear anon.

>>2722405
>>2722462
>>2722993
thanks 4 the reactions!

>>2723176
Blog?

>>2722958
sadly, I am not. Also, I am sure you are just as much of a splendid person as anyone else could ever aspire to be.

>>2723176
Well sweet Pacific Rimjob, look at you, Anon! You're all loose and tight at the same time!

>>2722990
Are those some of them new Pokemans? I love your linework, keep it up.

>>2722702
Sorry anon, but... this is barely 6th grade scribble level. You need >>2722073.

>>2722347
Your style does look very unique (not to mention nice) but I'm not really fan of using both desaturated colors and thin lines, it isn't very clear when looked at from a thumbnail. Also, those texture-y dots you see in manga and retro pop-art (sorry I forgot the name) look sort of randomly placed but that's just me.

What does /ic/ think of my goat/sheep guy?

>>2723231
i like the fur rendering at he end of the sword.
too much brown.
noisy design
poor perspective(leg and head doesnt match)
choice of red is very poor and does match well with the green.

>>2723176
I really love this. how i can see more??

killing some time.

>>2723231
the red and black striped stilts are completely ruining it

>>2723231
try somethin like this anon
i like the stilts but their size and the stripes distract from the focal point of your design
the tail around his shoulder throws off his silhouette

>>2723264
>>2723287
>>2723349

Thanks for the advice, the stilts def look a lot better this way. I don't know how to feel about losing the tail, I like the idea of him covering himself in the fur of wolves he has slain. But I'll keep it in mind the next time I'll draw him.

>>2723357
Perhaps add the tails around the base of the dress rather than at the arm

try to draw some lineless art, my color is still pretty shit desu
I don't really know when to use hard edge and soft edge

>>2723484
You should study a bit more from references.
I can tell that your arms seem to be really different sizes, especially around the forearms. It's really inconsistent and looks...off. Legs look really wonky as well. Shoe placement with feet are off, shoes also are lacking some detail..lots actually. There's a lot.

Try to study from a reference, use lines to guide yourself and look at other lineless art to try taking tips from their artist.

Can I possibly get a redline for....everything, please? I'm trying to make it chibi style.

>>2723523
Is there anything I can do to stop symmetrical drawings from slanting, this is a huge problem for me, hence the big stupid grey line down his beard

>>2723538
Reverse it or hold it up to a mirror if traditional

>>2723529
Don't wanna go for my tablet atm. The main things you could work on are line quality and using cylinders and blocks to build the figure.
Also, chibi is not just slapping a an oversized head on a character, it's more like a figure with baby proportions - chubby, rounder and simplified joints, narrow shoulders.. and a big head, of course. Yours looks more like a Disneyland worker on his break.

>>2723277
blog?

>>2723529
Keep the eyes on the bottom half also confirming what >>2723593 said

Please guys help me with this, something is really fucking wrong with her face, but I can't put my finger on it. I don't know if its the hair, the face or if my entire head contruction is fucked up.

Please ignore the sketchy torso I haven't put much attention to it.

>>2722317
yeah you're right, he'll probably be facing vayne, so I needed something for him to say feeling vayne's strong dueling power.
probably will replace it with "you know how to use that crossbow don't you" but I want it to lead to "what's your score/how many did you kill" or something like that.

>>2723896
Like all anime artists you can't a draw a face in perspective properly and you end up with retarded spacing issues like the eyes being right next to which ever ear is facing the viewer.

Really just keep drawing like that if you like anime, that's what the "style" consists of.

>>2723529
rounder, softer shapes my man. like the other anon posted, 'cute' usually stems from baby-like proportions, so chubbier, shorter, thicker limbs often show up when you want something cute. you want to avoid all the straights and sharp angles you have in your drawing here.

also, consider the props to be another character in the drawing, too. you have a nicely drawn and detailed chair, but it doesn't really suit the subject matter, does it? try to simplify things as much as possible, and go for rounder, cleaner forms, no need spend so much time detailing the chair when the character is the main focus.

Im not on my computer so this is a crappy photo I took of my WIP before leaving today.

>>2722543
Thanks senpai, will note. I kinda made the original design into a typical comic book villain looking thing.
>>2722439
Thanks, will take note!
>>2722579
>>2722585
>>2722600
Top kek, thanks mates. Although if I'm not mistaken, those tits are actually eyes.

>>2723994
He doesn't need to keep every stupid convention commonly found in anime stylization. He should draw faces in perspective. Next you'll be telling him to draw dot noses.

>>2722990
>Black person
>mongoloid face structure

>>2723994
So I just have to stick with realism, is that what you are telling me?

I was thinking maybe the hair was part of the problem so I change it (left) and I think I managed to improve it a little (right).

I think this is the best I can do right now so I don't know I will go do some studies and leave this behind.

Some weebshit I've done.
It was probably the first time I tried really hard to construct anatomy.

>>2724555
I like it, the colors are nice, but why is she holding the bow that way? I can see it is a stylistic choice, but it looks a bit awkward to me. Also the hand looks a bit wrong but I can't quite see why, maybe some other anon can help you. I would really like to see it finished

>>2724984
Why do you listen to autistic trolls?

>>2725106
The hand looks wrong to me too, ive been redrawing it almost every time I look at this before. The bow being there was just for the composition but I see how akward it is too. I haven't drawn in a few months so this is kinda a warm up peice im doing to get me back on that horse.
More progress.

>fucked up the facial proportions

>>2725341
>fucked up the rest of the proportions as well

>>2725341
who is she staring at
what does such an expression convey

>>2725139
I didn't say I would take his advice.

>>2725106
More progress.
The hand is bothering me so much, id really appreciate any help with it. Honestly this is really just a warm up sketch to get me back into digital art and I didn't really think past the composition I know the bow is awkward where it is and i'm kinda unsure where I could move it or get rid of it without killing the composition?

>>2725363
I actually liked the other one a bit more, the fact that you muted the colors so much makes it look much less lively, maybe its just because this way there's a bit less contrast. The hand looks a bit flat, even more so now, and I don't know how you could put the bow. Like if she carried it with the string behind her shoulder it could be hard to make it look like a bow, maybe simply mirroring it would work (the string on the other side). I think the problems with this painting all come from the fact that it looks like you simply started it without planning it, the girl's body doesn't look cohesive, and the bow placement looks so random also because of this. I'm not saying it's a bad idea or anything, I actually like the concept but maybe if you worked a bit more on sketching it before trying to make a finished work out of it. Sorry if I sounded harsh or anything, I always try to put things as nicely as I can

>>2725363
The main problem right now are the proportions, her head and hand are way too big, the body is fine but since the head out of proportion her left shoulder is way off.

I don't really know much about composition aside for the basics so I can't help you with that.

I tried fixing things a little bit but I don't have my tablet with me and doing it with mouse is really dificult.

>>2725379
I don't think this is harsh at all but I don't really get upset over crits, ill probably finish what I can and then use it as a thumbnail for later. I didn't get any feedback on the sketch and kinda jumped into a putting makeup on a pig moment, haha. Thanks for the feedback!

>>2725402
I can't wait to see it actually, I think it has potential

>>2725383
This makes so much more sense to me, I can see how huge her hand is now compared to everything! thank you!
>>2725404
Thanks your giving me confidence!

>>2725349
It was meant to be sad and emotional and shit but I fucked up okay

>>2725459

Why is she sad? Shes a 2D girl, she has it all goin' for her.

This chick is aliums and shit!

>>2725617
>>2725341
>>2724984
>>2723484
>>2723176
>>2721892
>>2721468
>>2721301
>>2720900
>^_^ or ^.^ expression looking at viewer 3/4 view + thigh cut off illustration

Is it a lack of the artist unable to draw meaningful expressions or is it the person IRL is such a shallow person that every girl they draw has this same pattern expression? They are no longer people they're drawing, more like soulless dolls. It really says something about the person drawing them.

In the case of say
>>2721146
>>2721420
>>2721550
fine

>>2725629
>soulless dolls
>drawn by a horny teenager

Holy shit are you a fucking woman or what?
It's like theres a fucking cunt in these threads who won't shut up. I bet your own art is tumblr tier but is meaningful as fuck.

>>2725633

Calm down. I love anime very much. Probably far more than you do. It's probably just this board as a whole really because elsewhere this isn't much of a problem. Makes sense after all this is a site where people who drop out of life cultivate.

I'm just feel that this is thing amateur anime artists do because they don't know the structure of the face, so they result to the same sticker facial expressions as if they're eroge sprites.

>>2725617
Check her left foot (the one on the right), that seems like a very uncomfortable way to be sitting or kneeling. I suggest touching that up just a smidget
>Face seems a bit...off as well. Eye may be a bit far apart? Maybe its the placement, it may be okay. Someone double check me on it.
Her right arm has been dislocated at her shoulder, doesn't look like the doctors can fix it, but you can. Forearm should be a bit longer than the upper arm..just sayin.
Thumb on her left arm is pretty chunky..

I like the premise but there's a lot that could be fixed. Hope this helps

>>2725629

Just because I drew a 3/4 view girl doesn't mean I don't study Loomis anon.

>>2725638
Sometimes the characters are just chilling and nothing meaningful is going on.

>>2725640
tanks bruv

i dont even know what the fuck he is holding

>>2725824
The way he's resting one hand on his hips looks awkward and is a bit difficult to make out. I think changing the pose so you can see that arm better would be good. The other arm also seems too short.
I really like this though.

>>2723593
>>2723644
>>2724532
Thanks a bunch. I tried to redraw most of it. The person I'm doing this for wants a very detailed Victorian chair and outfit. What I have right now is just a placeholder, because I want to make sure my form and perspective is okay first before I add little details. Am I still extremely off?

>>2725824
ok the lines n stuff are pretty neat but holy fuck what happened there
>those flabby legs
>awkwardly leaning back
>looking somewhere in the direction of that thing he's holding

is this a picture of a drunk cleric trying to indentify an object?

>>2725838
Yea, that struggle with foreshortening, thanks for tips, will try to bring that out on the next one i do as i got kind of bored of this one, thanks =)))))

>>2725843
Thanks, can you offer me some tips to improve that kind of thing?, sometimes i do stuff that look "neat", but its a complete mess.

>>2725827
either boobs are too low or shoulders are too high

what do you think about this one?

It is for a contest in deviantart.

>>2725919
She looks like a fucking dinosaur.

>>2723025
about the linework, its a new style or me, really trying to nail that "looks like i scribbled/doodled it but actually spent mad time on it" . i feel like its working for the figure and the clothes but not for the pokemon. whats throwing it off?

>>2723220
and no, tho I've considered it for that sweet potentially patreon market.

>>2726053
>whats throwing it off?
Practice, maybe? I imagine you drew a lot more of figures than pokemon. Even if it's prestine sketching, it's still sketching.

>>2725629
>>^_^ or ^.^ expression looking at viewer 3/4 view + thigh cut off illustration

only one of them cuts off at the thigh and most of them have unique poses? lol
also while some of them may have more or less the same expression (tho none of them i'd describe with ^_^ seeing as that expression has the eyes closed) hating on the 3/4th angle is kinda idiotic, there's only so many angles you can draw the head in where the face still reads properly that unless they're very nearly looking straight forward or completely to the side it's considered some variation of a 3/4ths, whether from below, above or mid level (or, again, some variation between those)

>>2725638
>It's probably just this board as a whole really because elsewhere this isn't much of a problem
see the funny part is that what you described is actually incredibly common, just that most of the drawings you replied to aren't 3/4th cowboy shots
try harder or be less annoying please

>>2726053
your lines are so much more confident on the figure than on the pokemon

also the thicker line foudn only on the left side of his hat and the left side of that bird-ish one looks super bad without any other darker/thicker lines placed elsewhere in the sketch to help counter balance them. either work out some other places where thicker lines would work/look good or go back and clean those ones up

>>2726026
their facial features feel too close to the front of the face/outta perspective, feel like the far eye should be recessed deeper into the skull so it's more hidden behind the nose bridge or there should be more cheek bone below it, also they got that george jefferson hairline

>>2725827
blog??

>>2725824
>>2725863
work on silhouettes
make it so things read strong and clearly, both arms are lost forever to that silhouette, which isn't that much of a problem until you have the arms doing something (say holding some mystery stick), in which case things get all messy an murky an unclear
also, unless that dude's jus floatin, work on cementing your figure's weight. either have it flow into the ground or in the direction of movment

tho staring at it long enough i think i know what you were trying to do with the feet. having his right foot (our left) planted while his left was on the tip toe. the tiptoe leg has lost the form of the shin, causing it to look all jelly boned, remember the flow of the lower leg, it curves inward/back before it swooces right back out an forward again (in pic related flow is exagerated to show swooce)

quick doodles of characters for my webcomic

>>2726115
>try harder or be less annoying please

I'm sorry my feedback offends you. I honestly could care less what you do with your own art, but feedback is the basis of this board. Have a nice day.

>>2722298
is this seto kaiba

>>2725914
Thanks, didn't see that.

>>2726132
Thanks man, I need to plan my poses and work on anatomy more carefully..

>>2726053
Practice sketching/construction on paper with pen, you'll get there eventually.

>>2726076
damn. obvious answer that
ive never considered. guess ill google some wolf anatomy or something.

>>2726118
i agree. ill try adding some blacks/darker and see if ill go some or none.

thanks yall

>>2726220
nah dog, jus give actual constructive crit or at the least try to be funny instead of waisting hiro's precious bandwidth lest he shut this "wonderful" board

>>2726394
If your feelings are hurt then my point of view was critical on the matters I pointed out rather than subjective hence 'constructive criticism'. Whether or not you can take criticism of various levels is your issue, not mine.

fallen to the scribbles side again

>>2722990
i love the linework! how do??

Do you have to use a program with a stabilizer to get super polished art like this? I'm used to painting in photoshop, and I CANNOT get good line art. I don't know if my tablet just isn't configured properly or what. I can draw much cleaner on paper, but not with a tablet.

>>2726543

Photoshop's brush engine is shit for producing crisp lineart, just pirate Clip Studio for god's sake. The UI is largely the same to Photoshop and even many shortcuts are identical. Brush setting works a bit different but if you know your way around Photoshop it's a breeze to learn. You can also open and work with Photoshop files straight up in Clip Studio with all layers intact.

>>2726543
Use LazyNezumi for PS or just use SAI / CSP

>>2726543
>and I CANNOT get good line art

Stop drawing digital and start working on your line confidence in a traditional medium, use a fountain felt tip pen to help you with getting lines right the first time.

>>2726553
how to pirate pls

>>2726553
>Photoshop's brush engine is shit for producing crisp lineart

This is a common misconception and needs to be clarified; it's not the program its you.

>>2726565
I've never heard of anyone producing line art in photoshop without using the pen tool.

>>2726554

Lazy nezumi is garbage compared to CSP

>>2726563

It's actually easier to make nice line art with traditional tools though. In this case, it really is the tool' s fault - Photoshop is just the inferior option when it comes to lineart.

>>2726565

No, you're probably just clueless about line art. Photoshop is great for digital painting but for *crisp* lineart the brush engine just fails. It's notoriously bad for producing strokes that has a taper that looks good. Just try clip studio for yourself. Photoshop is just so clearly inferior that it's not even funny.

>>2726565
Sure a handful of people can make nice linework with it, but there are people who can also make beautiful things in SketchUp, and that doesn't make it a good 3D program. PS is a fantastic program for painting, but for linework it's not the best and you need to really struggle with it and know what you are doing to get decent results.

>>2726563
bad advice

confidence has nothing to do with digital conversion tools of gesture, your gesture might be clean and yet the translation is irregular

>>2726543
Try paint tool sai, it's so much easier to line with than PS even with a low stabilizer

>>2726529
i made a custom brush thats essentially the default circle but tapered with spacing and scattering to it doesnt look too 'clean'.

not that im one to look at. this style is just me biting from random pixv/tumblr artists. my own is more like picrelated (ignore fugly hands)

>>2726423
nah, i jus think you intentionally gave bad advice/feedback/critique whatever you wanna call it which isn't useful to the people you responded to, it's more for them than you. hope things are going well for you regardless.

>>2726543
what tablet do you use/how big is it?
what are the dimensions/ratio of the active area?
do said dimensions match with the screen that you draw on?
if if the ratio is off it can cause a subtle yet notable disparity between your hand eye coordination that can make inking/sketching frustrating
if this is the case you should be able to mess with your drivers to change where the tablet is overlaid on screen so that the ratios can more closely lineup
if you have a screen tablet then i unfortunately don't know what to tell you other than maybe try getting a screen protector with a better texture for drawing (usually matte is the way to go) or try some different nibs for your stylus

ooh, also, even if you don't want to use a stroke stabilizer, lazy nezumi fixes that weird bug in photoshop where pen strokes drawn while zoomed out are all stair steppy

>>2726455
real nice, but the hands an shoes are jus a lil too messy to be made out clearly

>>2726752
>hope things are going well for you regardless

likewise

>>2726752
>hope things are going well for you regardless
likewise

Now you must reply to 2 other anons to appear being a helpful community member. A wall of text that can be summed down to 'refer to lazy nezumi' and anon #2 draws messily on purpose thus your comment isn't really helping him. From my years of internet forum browsing this is a classic case of "I want to reply to (you) but without appearing desperate so I'll reply to 2 others to level my frustration even though I had to come up with something on the fly" tactic. And you know who does this? People who fall into the category >>2725629 mentioned earlier.


Anyway my last post to you. It isn't all that serious.

>>2726121
Thanks

>>2720535

Jesus help me...Still working on this furry shit. The person kept pointing to this Kuroshitsuji picture of what they wanted it like...I have no idea how I am going to manage to draw a detail chair like that at my lack of skill.

http://idata.over-blog.com/2/12/00/31//107693o.jpg

>>2726762
deleting your original response so you could go back an add a paragraph of spite is *chefs kiss*
congratulations, that's actually kinda funny (if only in a meta way) but i'm glad you've at least taken my advice to heart

>>2727025
Which one of your art ITT did I quote? I get the feeling I did not quote you and you're just talking to me for no reason.

>>2726567
> Photoshop is just the inferior option when it comes to lineart.

PS is totally fine for lineart, stabilizers are unnecessary, and you can make good brushes on it.

>>2726936
just use reference for the detail.

>>2726566
>I've never heard of anyone producing line art in photoshop without using the pen tool.

Zedig, Dave Rapoza, Marko Djurdjevic, Catbib, Jake Wyatt, Helen Chen, Ryan Lang, Cory Loftis... just a few off the top of my head.

>>2726566
Fucking noob.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAVi_qNQT4M

Need some help on trying to do art like Blizzard. Picture is obv not mine but of Blizzard's Harbinger series on youtube. I use Krita as my art program.

>>2727237
You should be able to do something like that just fine on Krita, what exactly do you want to know how to do?

>>2727242
Well I mainly do not know where to start haha. Brushes and all. I don't even know what this is called, digital painting?

1592 The Year of the Water Dragon
by Chunbum Park

>>2727245

Jesus christ how horrible

>>2727245
your style is really common here in my country.

>>2727242
Actually would good practice be trying to repaint screencaps from shows and movies of people?

>>2727270
goddamn, read the sticky.
For software, Krita is damn fine.
Check the brushpacks on the Krita website, in particular Deevad and the Concept art ones.
Screencaps are fine, it's a common exercise, as well as master studies. But it's no sufficient, start learning construction early (now).

>>2727228
I love your sketches, even if last time's colouring was a mess. Blog?

>>2727220
love the style, pay attention to construction. Like wtf happened to right dude, or left dude's arm?

>>2726053
dude, the sketch was so much better than those crappy lines

>>2727283
Thank you for the response, I appreciate it. I will work on that now.

I tried to make it like she's not smiling for the camera.

Does it look more interesting?
Ideas?

>>2721487
>>2721488
>>2721550
BLOG BLOG BLOOOOOOOG!!!

>>2727295
Shifting a few pixels on her face is the least of your worries.

HOW DO I MAKE INKING LESS BORING? it always takes so long to look at least a bit like pic related.

in progress thing

>>2727222
Isn't it kind of bad to copy someone else's exact design though? Would it be completely terrible if I looked up royalty free patterns and just put it in the image?

>>2727308
stop while you're ahead.

>>2727339
not really, just copy IRL objects, stuff like from rococo era with ornament spams everywhere.

>>2727315
Dude... the hand furthest from the viewer is bigger then the hand closest to the viewer, it should very much be the reverse! And the whole foreshortening of the right arm is botched, you really need to find your self a ref. Also, the blonde girl's head is a bit too big.

>>2725824
Like the others have said; the pose is terrible, but I dig everything else.

>>2727354
Missed the hand thing, thanks. Other chick is stylized. Yeah yeah "muh".

>>2727308
please tell me/screencap your brush settings for that specific brush.
I need it for science.

>>2725863
well the figure has no concept of room/perspective, posture etc..
it's helpful and easy to plan a drawing a bit before getting all detailed.
pic related I've tried to make an example, forgive the bad quality- when I see your linework, and consider that you draw without planning you could be able to create some great stuff.
maybe shaping random scribbled shapes into a concept of perspective environment before getting detailed on characters works for you?
if the environment sucks, remover it

>>2727421

>>2727315
Are you for real

Feel like I got those initial problems out.

>>2720535

Need help with halftones and patterns and such, is there a good program for this or should i just stick with making clone stamp tool patterns and filters on Photoshop?

>>2727483
right arm of the girl is way too fucked up, arms in general actually
do them over
also the blonde's head looks weird

>>2720535

>>2727483
Except that the thumb is misplaced and the foreshortened hand from the front is almost the same as the one in the back.
The hand in the foreground should be almost the same size as the head.

>>2727496
paint.net has good options for that. for drawing and painting it sucks though.
manga studio perhaps?

>>2727565
thanks for the info ill check it out. I was looking at manga studio maybe ill pick it up in the future.

>>2727812
Use a ref. You're not ready to rely on your imagination.

>>2727842
you'll never be ready for imagination drawing if you don't train it

>>2727648
love you, never stop posting, not until you die. it doesn't have to be on 4chan

>>2727846
If your proportions are consistently off you need to consult a ref. Otherwise you're just reinforcing bad habits.

>>2727842
great advice /s

>>2727852
>expanding a weak visual library is bad

Proof's in the pudding, firez

>>2727858
It's a shitty advice overall, the figure shows understanding of human form but anon threated it like it was symbol drawing

>>2727868
The face is literally misaligned anime symbols. The torso and arms are ridiculously elongated. The leg is too short. You hide your lack of anatomy knowledge behind hair and bizarre clothes. Instead of getting mad, get better. Or just keep fiddling. If all you want is asspats from people worse than you, that's what you'll continue to get.

Am I the only one here reporting these shits >>2727766 ? Just need a few more people to get him banned guys.

squid

>>2725824
Fuck I like that style of sketch. (Kinda like Bravely Default).

>>2727926
You went a bit overboard with the atmospheric perspective. She looks more like a projection in the sky rather than being right behind that cliff.

>>2727483
Hand towards the viewer should still be much bigger! Also, the thumb is placed on the wrong side of the hand...

This house has lots of candy >>2728073