/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2692514

>>2692514
The best way to study anatomy is to get a couple books on it. Don't waste your time trying to piece together various images you find online and turn it into a complete education.

One should learn how to draw males first. After that females become pretty easy.

>>2692514

https://www.mediafire.com/?f22slp4gseu35hk

>>2692514
>>2692768

Also this book is super cool, it's a medical book and you don't need to read it, but maybe just look at the pics and read the related comment, there's some interesting stuff about the relationships between muscles, about posture, dynamics of movement, tensegrity. Basically the stuff artist draw.

https://www.mediafire.com/?olll1ccuc9z58p6

>>2692520
Why do those look so bad? Honest question.

>>2693035

They look fine.

>>2693050
Looks really amateurish in my opinion.

>>2693053

Well you just need to get your eyes checked then. That source is recommend by Disney and Lucasfilms among other notable big names in the industry.

Have you checked out Proko on Youtube? His courses have helped me a lot with anatomy and figure drawing. https://www.youtube.com/user/ProkoTV

>>2693035
>>2693050
I dont know what I'm talking about but that drawing looks like it was done by the best artist of a midwestern high school.

>>2692522
everyone learns diffrently tho, personally i dont read books and learn by looking and drawing it

>>2693056
but i already see mistakes on the cover tho i guess it would be good if you starting out tho and dont know where to go

>>2693060
Anatomy books are filled with images, and they're better than what you can find as single images floating online, plus it's organized and has supporting text. Other than perhaps a live teacher or recording of an anatomy class, it's the best thing.

<---- Some good books

Proko's YouTube guides:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtG4P3lq8RHFBeVaruf2JjyQmZJH4__Zv

Cadaver dissections on YouTube:
Gil Headley's Integral Anatomy
https://youtu.be/K68kC9R7THc

Dr Auckland's Video Atlas
https://youtu.be/de0DA1DJ1aI
https://youtu.be/-XzB9dBfap8

For more just enter a search with "muscle dissection"

Apps like Essential Skeleton 4 for IOS (free) are useful for 3D conceptions

Be careful of too much black & white simplified illustrations of material directed towards artists. Complement with medical resources. The medical term is gross anatomy.

Studying anatomy requires a careful mindset to manage the huge volume of information. Look for function and important connections (origins and insertions) before you copy form. When you start studying form, focus on proportions and relationships before shapes. Understanding the naming system will help you memorize the shapes as the Latin names often explain them (fossa = hollow for instance). Dissections can be particularly difficult to make sense of but they are important for understanding the arbitrary nature of dividing muscles into isolated groups, and how ligaments and fascia make up the subcutaneous to deep mass.

The proper way to study depends on your goals. You may be happy with extreme simplifications and color coded muscle profiles. Or you may have to study and depict each bone from various angles, it's connections, important muscle groups, their origins and insertions, slowly moving over each part of the body, then work out a system of simplification that is your own, and finally connect with surface form.

Once you start being able to identify muscles from the surface, you're making progress. Then it's just a matter of practicing depicting the forms from various angles and stages of movement and flexion. Never ever forget the skeleton as its the only really solid form we have to work with.

Lastly, there is no substitute for life drawing classes.

>>2693142
Good resources

>>2692520
Bad resource. No value control. Guy never graduated from copying photos.

>>2693056
And britney spears still only drinks Pepsi™. Learn to spot a paid endorsement.

>>2693035
The proportion is a little inconsistent, and values are VERY inconsistent. no thought put into shadow shapes. Compare pic related to my next pic

>>2694009

Complete newb here

should i try to git gud at portrait drawing or figure drawing first?

>>2693050

They absolutely do not. Ignoring the terrible values, just look at the proportions of the guy's face on the left.

>>2693142

I've been looking at a few dissections but it's very difficult to make out individual muscle groups, it all feels very chaotic, can you help me out?

>>2694009
>No value control.
Values are fine, seems like a lot of niggas here have never seen a gray scale image before.

>>2694348
The values are bad because they don't describe the form at all and the reflected light is really overdone causing confusion to the viewer. The real issue though is the drawing itself is fucked up really badly when it comes to structure, which is what he's supposed to be teaching.

>>2694348

Regardless, the head is too deep, the ear is incorrectly places and the neck is all sorts of screwy. It's far from bad, but it's not "teacher" good.

>>2694348
Uh no. Those are terrible values.

>>2692520
kek'd

>>2694348
You are fucking insane if you can't see what's wrong with that head and neck

>>2694371
Yeah, the face and the rest of the head don't line up. It's like his face is stretching over to the side to get a better look at something. The shadows make him look rashy. Then there's that bright spot to the left of his brow that makes it look like he has a dent.

Maybe this guy's just really deformed and we aren't being body positive enough.

>>2692520

>>2692520
Can someone redline the skull in this?

>>2695096
kek'd pretty hard, thanks anon

>>2695096
saved

>>2693060
i think you right anon learning styles are important ... in fact ill say the most important ... i see noone giving weight o this online ... emotions... motivations and strategies must fucking match ... i see all these fuckers including me some times when im a retard and forget my jedi ways, just plainly trying to get that learning by sheer will in, but its useless... one gotta know how one gets in the flow state while learning . What do you say IC bros ?

>>2694009
yup all true.

Please, tell me what do you think

>>2695352
>4160x3120

>>2695353
my phone's camera, sorry

>>2695353

Is there a reason this is even a big deal? Past huge images it's not impossible to see a resized version by fitting to screen. Maybe it doesn't bother me because I use half a screen to browse.

>>2695352

Your values are a bit too strict. It lacks a good bit of dimension due to this.