/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>mfw only anime, no studies

>>2656846
>>2658837
Guess I'm done with those two pages.

>>2659247

>>2659245

You don't need studies to draw animu.

>>2659247
>>2659248
I dig it.

>>2659250
I wouldn't say figure studies are not need to draw stylized anime and such. You definitely need some kind of background in understanding basic proportions of the human body.

Now to go further and make more dynamic stuff it definitely helps to have an understanding of human anatomy and how humanoid figures look in a 3d environment.

Well that goes for basic anime and stuff. I'm sure people who do figure studies and do the loomis stuff are the ones who will make/made it.

>>2659247
>>2659248
This makes no sense.
I get that you're going for a comedic effect, but look at her pose in the first page after dodging, and then look at how you made her torso and arm move to strike, it has no flow whatsoever.

Even if you fix the arm motion to make sense, the copy/paste look of her second pose looks too lazy to be comedic.
The better choice here would have been to make her side kick him.
The better better choice would have been to implement comedic timing with an in-between panel that would allow you to set up a sensical punchline.

heh, sensical punchline
because the lines don't make sense
the motion lines of the punch
get it?
I crack me up

>>2659250
I'm pretty sure you do.

Same for cartoon stuff.
>>2659260
Also pretty sure there's other stuff besides Loomis....

>>2659265
>the copy/paste look of her second pose looks too lazy to be comedic.

You sounds autistic.

STOP ANIME APOLOGISTS ON THIS BOARD!
Is it wrong to want to draw anime? Why is drawing anime assocaited with a negative stigma here, and why do those of you who draw anime suck up the renderniggers in the drawthread? Being able to draw muh moe grills is as much a valid end goal as mastering any other skill in art. Why do we tell ourselves it is less skillful to draw anime than paint fully rendered pictures , when most of the time the subjects and composition in the paintings are much more unoriginal?

Fuck this gay board.

>>2659269
>You sounds autistic.
You sounds autistic.

>>2659272
>maldraw loves anime to death
>we're in the maldraw era
go figure

ur waifu a shit xddddddd

>used to draw manga
>want to draw manga again
>know it's a huge timesink that takes like 6 hours a page (traditionalfag)
>can't put my mind to one story to go through with
>also a novelfag
>thinking of doing a side/alternative story with my current novel and characters as a manga

Is that retarded or brilliant? On the plus side any research done for it will benefit me twice.

Also here's my current piece of crap. Tell me what's wrong with it.

>>2659310

Just a side note that the one red block is purposely on a different angle than the others. The blocks are made up of books for those who don't gatari. I meant it tilted as an accent...does it work or just look incorrect?

>>2659310
You need Loomis badly.

>Is that retarded or brilliant?
Depends entirely on whether your novel is good or not.

>>2659220
Why does that look overly complicated for almost no reason

>>2659314

Can you be more detailed? If the anatomy is wrong, please give me a hint as to something more in particular so I can work towards that.

>>2659313
>The blocks are made up of books for those who don't gatari.

Same guy as >>2659314 here, you understand kataru means to tell tales, right?

>>2659275
>>2659312
blog?

>>2659310
ayy gimme ur blog

>>2659317
Loomis.

You're months away from even needing to think about anatomy.

>>2659312
>face looks way more clean than the clothes
Only thing that triggers me.

>>2659310
I never would have guessed this was Kanbaru if I didn't see the filename.
I think you failed to capture the character

>>2659320
aint got one

>>2659324
when im practicing i dont clean up much, this is all rough

>>2659323

Okay. What skill should I work on? Please don't just vaguely say loomis. I've read loomis. He does a lot of shit from anatomy to portraits to cartoons to perspective/environments. Please be specific so I can correct my deficiency.

>>2659319

I don't understand your point.

>>2659325

Alright, valid, I'll see what I can do.

>>2659328
>I don't understand your point.
I didn't recognize that as bakemonogatari fanart, I thought you were just weebing out, sorry.

>>2659328
Also, when anyone says Loomis, they mean construction. Your figure has no solidity at all, you clearly don't use forms, so the perspective is off, and the bodyparts don't align properly.

>>2659332

Is this better?

>>2659326
Well, at the very least, I like it. Although that face does on the right does look a bit off.

reymoo in progress

>>2659341
I'm gonna make this easy for you

1. get one of the following
>vilppu's manual of drawing videos
>hampton's cgma analytical figure drawing lectures (both of them)
>huston lectures

2. watch one lesson

3. watch the lesson again, but this time draw alongside it

4. practice what you learned

5. move on to the next lesson and repeat

No reading required, shit's easy, just do what they do.
You're not going to fix that drawing because you have no idea what you're doing.

Those resources in the OP are there for a reason.

>>2659357
>>2659347
>>2659341
tumblr/DA/blg?

>>2659363
animepro.tumblr.com

>>2659272
>Is it wrong to want to draw anime?
>Why is drawing anime associated with a negative stigma here?
Because the style of modern mainstream anime is garbage. All you have now is featureless moe faces that look soulless and demonstrate no sense of form at all. Why would you want to draw that? If you're studying any anime post 2006, stylistically, you have shit taste. Anime is long past it's prime, so people shit on it.

>>2659371
do you take commissions???

>>2659374
no because i already landed a job at Trigger

>>2659392
>filthy, 4chan browsing, gaijin
>landing a job at Trigger

>>2659373
>flat stamped faces
People have made that point on here before.
That's more due to the artist being shit than anything. Besides, there is more to anime than the face. If you dont know your fundies you're not getting away with it. Not to mention anime artists have to consider things like lineweight. So there is no reason to say that learning to drawing anime is not a legitamate challenge.

>>2659220
source on the bottom light? the color looks so soft

>>2659220
source?

>>2659426
That pose doesn't work for a slash, I hope you know that if anything.

>>2659250
That's bullshit and you know it

>>2659425
>>2659425
>you're not getting away with it
you can
look up range murata

>>2659435
I know. Head is also too low for that and facing the wrong way

>>2659425
>People have made that point on here before.
Because it's a valid one.
>Besides, there is more to anime than the face.
The stylized faces are the defining feature since the bodies are more based in reality than the faces are.
>Not to mention anime artists have to consider things like lineweight.
This isn't exclusive to anime art. Why are you even mentioning this?
And why would you post the work of an artist who suffers from flat same face on his women? I know Inoue's work and it's obnoxious and one note. His women look like they were pulled straight from crap like Sword Art. They look like shit because he's copying the modern mainstream styles in his female faces.
>So there is no reason to say that learning to drawing anime is not a legitamate challenge.
Modern anime styles AREN'T challenging. Which is entirely the point since it makes animating less difficult, allowing them to pump out more shit quicker. Study the old stuff. Stop wasting time with the new stuff because it's garbage.

give me (You)s guys :DDDDD

@2659464 :^)

#2659476 thx heres a kiss ;d

repoast

>>2659493
So good. Every. Single. time.

doodels

>>2659509
Those lines are just hnnng.

Guys how do I draw hair? I've been struggling with it for so long I feel more retarded than usual.

>>2659531
With lines, my dear.

>>2659534
That explains it, I was trying to use the keyboard.

>>2659531
just draw afros

>>2659531
here you go

>>2659542
Cheers!

>>2659542
holy shit

this is what I was truly missing, all these years
god bless

sketch.

>>2659609
If you're going to draw a negro loli at least put a MAC-10 in her hands

>>2659542

>>2659674
wut

>>2659677
>Round chin
>Large Zygs and mandible
>Huge defined lips
>upturned nose
>Gang affliation facial tattoos
>fugly
Negroid confirmed

>>2659681
post your work

>>2659684
U mad bruh?

>>2659509
Blog?!?

>>2659674
>>2659681
this was actually helpful. i would never have tried giving her a darker complexion if you hadn't mentioned it. i like it. so thank you anon.

>>2659732
No, I'm curious if you even draw.

>>2659250
Pretty sure you need animu studies. I mean I've seen alot of jojo clones and k-on shit clones.

They're obviously learning from somebody.

>>2659326
Holy fuck that kid has a small head. And body.

lrn2heightcomparison

>>2659183
i just have a lot of layers. also i know it's memes but i'm not kyle

>>2659187
why not

>>2659213
secret illuminati xxx club

>>2659267
miku is whatever you want her to be

>>2659509
Nice got instagram or pixiv?

Reminder that modern mainstream anime is trash. If you're studying anything after 2006 you're probably autistic.

>>2659733
>>2659775
got some shit on pixiv
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=15574960

gotta make a better face :8

Bunch of rough sketches.

>>2659220
OP artist?

>>2659904
>>2659900
>>2659734
>>2659542
>>2659509
>>2659493
>>2659426
>>2659347
>>2659341
>>2659326
>>2659312
>>2659245
yuck

>>2659431
>>2659916
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=267137

is this thread a joke?
everything posted so far is pure shit

>>2659951
stop spamming

>>2659953
Wait, so this thread is for real?
are you serious lol. what's this, a containment zone for mental patients?
lmao here.

>>2659960
it is now.

>>2659316
because it's illustrating what the author thinks, not what the author does.

>>2659316
It's not complicated at all. The theory behind it is solid and something many artists who draw in that style sadly ignore, particularly the curved surface of the eye, but the execution is subpar due to the artist's limited skill.

>>2659926
>>2659509
I think this one is pretty good tho the others are.. Well I'll not gonna say anything because my mom always told me if you don't have anything good to say don't say it at all

>>2659904
SYCRA IS THAT YOU?????!??

all you guys fucking suck
stop drawing

>>2660003
>that file name

That is literally the default filename for when you save off someone elses DA.

wtf r u doin m8

>>2660005
well i figured this thread couldn't get any worse so might as well add to the shitpile

report and ignore

>>2660012
Yup

sorry for lazyness

>>2659926
Racist

>>2660081
her right forearm look like its bent

>>2660081
there's a billion things that's wrong with her clothing.

>>2660081
That fucking nose dude.

Tried to do harada and failed :v

>>2660156
12 dollars? is that you?
why didya nuked your patreon?

>>2660166
who dat

>>2660166
>>2660191
and no, i dont even officially have a patreon yet

>>2660194
> officially

So you've got unofficially one?

>>2659373
>Implying.

Nigger, I guarantee you don't watch anime. Opinion discarded.

>>2660191
long ago there was this guy that shilled his patreon in the self promo threads and we all laughed at him for having $6 in there while his art looks exactly like >>2660156 if not better.
He pimped his patreon up to eleven, even going as far as designing his own patreon-chan and revised its design multiple times.
the most he ever got was $12 per month so that's why he got the moniker.

i never supported him but was really interested in his progress. i checked back last week and realized he had already nuked his pattyo.

i chuckled.

>>2659984
its artwork/critique, not arywork/shitposting. At least post something constructive

>>2660203
I love it when people post purposely biased pictures, but the shit they're trying to aggrandize still looks bad, even after cheery picking. I mean, look at the awful CGI, the overused shine filters and gaudy plastic look of the shit on the right.

>>2660203
Ironically your image demonstrates my point.

>>2660203
Anyone know what the two are on the left for second row down in "right now"?

>>2660305
Oranged toned one is from the fate (stay night/zero) series.

>>2660305
the two on the left of the row starting from the bottom? Psycho pass and Haruhi Suzumiya the movie.

>>2660156
Neat, I like harada a lot too.

i don't really know but happy birthday miku

>>2660208
well that's a damn shame

>>2660196
i did make one in the heat of the moment since
>off chance i get poplar enough for it
but it's not really live yet since i got cold feet and chose to stay with commissions for a while more

>>2660208
this story is funny af i must know the name of the poor guy

doodled and old character I haven't drawn in about a year

>>2660416
How much are your commisions?

>>2660617
last time i drew her
kinda disappointed in my progress i think i've gotten more lazy than anything TT

>>2660626
oops forgot image

>>2660266
>>2660302

You can't disagree that most modern anime/manga has better fundamentals and anatomy than older stuff which was more about "muh style".

>>2660302
>demonstrates my point
>don't show why

mmmmkay...

>>2659904
More roughs character designs.

>>2660635
>You can't disagree that most modern anime/manga has better fundamentals and anatomy than older stuff
This is factually incorrect. You can't even prove this claim. 80s and 90s anime was the pinnacle. It's been downhill since 06.
>>2660640
See pic related

>>2660842
That frame is better than anything you can draw because you don't draw.

>>2660853
Nice non-counter argument, faggot. Get better taste. Anime is trash now.

>>2660858
It must sting to know I'm right.

>>2660886
You aren't. But I have nothing to prove to a random anon on /ic/. You can pretend that's a victory, if you want. I won't stop you.

>>2660900
Well you're a faggot

>>2660903
no, you

>>2660894
tight

>>2660918
I'm sorry I didn't realize how large it was.

>>2660908
faggot

>>2659944
thank you

Miku is a false goddess
Do not serve her

>>2660832
Great bodies and lines, now study faces plz

>>2661297
burn the heretics

>>2660624
i don't take them right now so I don't know what they'd be, sorry

Is artwork in Punpun traced?

how is this loli going?
trying shit with no refs & ponytails >>2659542

How do these poses look? Anything critically wrong here?

>>2661399

Far right looks ok. First two appear awkward and off balance. I suggest you study some martial arts footage to see how people move with a weapon.

>>2661383
Asano uses photos he's taken for backgrounds, not traced but manipulated to look like a manga page. I don't know if the people in the background are part of this process or if draws them in.

Any characters that aren't background elements he draws in his own though.

>>2661415
alright, thank you

>>2661399
Far right
>You were expecting Vlad the Impaler, but it was ME, DIO!!

>>2661399
>Anything critically wrong here?
Yeah, but you're not going to listen anyway, so what's the point?

>>2661418
>Yeah, but you're not going to listen anyway, so what's the point?
not him, but what do you think this thread is for?

>>2661415
This. Its literally impossible for anime artists to trace.

>>2661415
>don't know if the people in the background are part of this process or if draws them in.

He clearly draws them.

As for his process I can't find the video anymore, but there was one where he showed how he takes photo, put it on photoshop to give it the manga feel, then print it and rework on the whole thing by hand by adding effects and new lines, besides the grey shading.

Pretty neat.

>>2661399
i like the right one pose, but the middle one doesn't really works well at all, even in action it doesn't looks believable.

And what's with Arthuria's head? She reminds me more of Drifters' Jeanne d'arc here.

>>2661435
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLJ4mETlTmQ

>>2661436
Any suggested fixes for the Ragnar in the middle? I actually struggled a bit with the pose. I just really wanted to have a pose where he's sorta lunging forward with his shield on his left hand, while screaming. My friend initially suggested I have him dual wield two axes, but the shield is just something I vividly picture in my mind for him in this pose.

They're all supposed to be like dynamic battle poses btw, like something you'd see in a videogame. Not exactly stills from an actual battle, but more like poses in motion or very dynamic poses you know? I'm actually gonna draw their Coats of Arms in the back and color the background to their matching colors.

That's why Arthuria looks like she's "dancing with her sword" since I kinda want them to convey a bit of their character, even though her pose isn't exactly practical.

As for her Arthuria. This is the design I made for her a couple months ago (I still haven't finished it). Her head in the new sketch I made will need a few fixes ofc, she does look a bit funky, but I'll get to that as I start painting it as it'll be easier then. She actually does look like that Jeanne D'arc actually. It's not intentional though. My vision for a genderbent kind Arthur kinda went like this:

>If she's a woman passing herself off as a boy, it'd have to be a young King Arthur, and she'd have to look like an effeminate boy. Obviously she'd cut her hair short to pass herself off as a boy.
I never much liked the Fate design for a female Arthur too much, even though I liked the concept quite a lot.

>>2660031
Character exploration from class

>>2661442
>all the hours spent to put in that detail
>doing this for chump change
are you fucking serious

>>2661453
>chump change

>>2661477
>the average mangaka makes $2000 a month
>artists that's been in the industry for 20+ years usually makes around $4k

How does one typically start to learn to draw in a more 'anime' style? I'm new to drawing and am obviously starting with the fundamentals but what are some good ways to transition into a particular style every now and then? Is it just a matter of trying to emulate the style of artists I like?

>>2661503
>Is it just a matter of trying to emulate the style of artists I like?
Once you're able to consistently draw generic heads and such from imagination in various poses, yes.

Then you start analyzing what makes the artists you like stand out, what features do they exaggerate, etc...

"anime style" means a lot of different and diverse styles. Stylized art in general, especially Oriental styles, tend to exaggerate two main features:

The eyes on females and children tend to be drawn bigger and given special focus.

And Heads tend to be proportionately bigger regardless of gender, ESPECIALLY on kids. Likewise, females and children tend to have proportionately "shallower" or smaller heads. Meaning that the distance between the mouth, nose, and chin, is much smaller than it's supposed to be on a normal head.

From here, it really varies a lot, especially if you look at different decades. In the past, noses used to be drawn, now you've only got a dot for a nose or its omitted entirely. The size of the eyes also varies a lot per style. Etc...

The key is that you're able to properly define the planes of a head/skull/face, the cheekbones, nose, eye sockets, forehead, chin, temples, etc... Once you can do that well and consistently, "STYLE" is really just a matter of exaggerating whatever features you want to exaggerate the most. It's really just playing around with proportions once you've got a good grip.

>>2661503
you can start whenever you want, just don't ever stop studying fundies and real life

>>2660203
What anime is the 8th one from? The naked girl. Ergo Proxy?

Question :

I've seen people throwing Loomis way too much around here but... wouldn't Hampton be enough? Hampton also covers head construction in Figure Drawing. Do I need anything else than this book? I don't really have a feel for Loomis, but if it's really needed I'm willing to correct this.

>>2661587
Just read both if youre so unsure :v

any, just focus to build 3D forms over accurate shapes/proportions when studying construction, don't split your focus on few more foundations when studying one, it will be more complicated

>>2661398
swag hair

>>2661587
Look up Hampton's personal art and his head drawings from the book. Notice anything? Literally all of his faces look like the same neanderthal.

>>2661613
then isn't hampton perfect for anime?

What are some good daily challenges for helping with changing the way you draw?

>>2661644
That picture makes no sense. The stuff on the left is better than the dogshit in the middle. At least the left has a rudimentary sense of form, while the stuff on the middle is completely flat.

>>2661584
Mardock Scramble

>>2659220
So am I understanding this picture correctly?

It is in 3 point perspective with the horizon line in the middle? Any more pictures like this?

>>2661759
You dense fuck.

>>2661856
Nigger.

>>2661804
>3pt
That's 2pt nigga. The Vertical lines are parallel to each other. Check out Scott Robbiepoo's book on perspective, it'll help you get a better grip on it.

And in general, you mostly wanna draw your figures in perspective like you see there.

Anyway, I drew a thing, now off to bed. I'll clean it up and color it tomorrow. It'll be fairly easy.

quickie to practice composition.

Sorry about the level of unfinished & sketch but if critique can be given I'll take it.

>>2661864
Feels very flat, consider values while planning compositions.

>>2661863
Oh okay I thought it was 2pt cause of the line in the middle.

>>2660842
kek.

>>2661874

again, quick just to assess what I hope you're talking about. Something like this? Just to bring out shapes and depth in the region. I'm really bad at eyeing values and light when it comes to environments, sorry.

>>2661903
i love meme driver but those faces are always soulless imo

>>2661763
is it any good?

>>2661923

From what I remember it's very unmemorable, so no.

I have a question regarding style and simplifying things. I post in this thread regularly and have a problem. I want to draw like pic posted (so, animu, strongly stylized and elongated) and while I do want that, I always skipped fundamentals because I thought they're silly and I already knew them (I didn't). Now it's come to bite me in the ass because it's luck when something looks right. Problem is, I feel like whenever I practice things, especially from reference, I deviate so much from my goal, that it just looks unappealing to me. Everything looks fat and stiff and wonky. And when I go back to stylization I fail to draw with proper anatomy.
Im scared that if I finally after 8 years of bullshitting learn fundamentals and/of anatomy, I'll be unable to ever draw like this and end up drawing in a way I find utterly unappealing. I know that style is based on fundamentals, but I have trouble combining them and fear unlearning style. (I haven't really reached my goal style either though. But it's getting there.)
Is this a reasonable concern and common problem, and if yes, what would you suggest I do? The mere thought of hating my stuff even more and feeling even less joy got me anxious.

>>2661961
In comparison this is a pen doodle but it pretty much shows that I a) dunno what I'm doing and b) draw legs thicker than I'd like to because if I drew them any more stylized they'd make even less sense

>>2661961
maybe you need to spend some time finding artists whose work appeals to you stylistically while also showing strong foundational skills/anatomy. expanding the list of artists you choose to be influenced can increase your range and interests, and it might help you see various options in how you can combine style and skill in your own work.

>>2661961
Start by learning perspective rather than anatomy.

If you can draw cubes in perspective you can draw pretty much anything. All figures are essentially composed of boxes.

Fundamentals isn't just anatony. Learn proper draftsmanship, perspective, and values.

Don't do.it, and you'll continue to plateau. The image you posted shows a strong foundation of the fundies. Everyone's gotta do it. All the best anime artists gave learned the fundies. Skip on this, and you'll never draw like them.

Also, style is the last step to learning. As an artist, you should be able to draw in ANY still, and if you git gud, you will, so idk what you're worried about.

>>2661961
>>2661977

Not to word by word >>2662001 but it's essential to understand the importance of fundamentals.

Fundamentals are essentially confidence and understanding on all overall artistic values, it's not just a matter of anatomy. You'll be learning perspective, values, shapes, colors and a lot of basics. The style will just happen, and really if you understand all those you'll be able to draw however you want. You'll understand why something works and where it belongs and then be able to replicate those you like, even better than that. You may even change your taste when you start to understand further.

A good place to start by your sketch is perspective. Learn where objects go in a plane. and situate them, even if it's just shapes. You'll ultimately fuck yourself if you continue forward without at least practicing here and there.

>>2661903
Stylistically Star Driver is garbage. Look at his face. Good animation doesn't absolve shitty stylization and that's all modern anime has to offer. Good animation, terrible stylistic choices.

>>2661759
>The stuff on the left is better than the dogshit in the middle.
Never-Gonna-Make-It

>>2662011

I assume this is three different artists?
If so, source on each pls

ps. I like the car

>>2662091
are you referring to this?>>2661644
If so, I'm the artist on the left. http://soapmonster.tumblr.com/
The two on the right are both from Nargyle.
http://nargyle.tumblr.com/

>>2662171
There are no shortcuts really. You basically just have to keep studying fundamentals. Gesture is important. Everything about Nargyle's work is a display of confidence and good gesture. She understands the fundamentals of drawing and has nice flow. I'm not a big fan of her stylization but her work still reads well.

>>2659926

>/pol/

>>2660416

>hatsunemiku

What a loser.

>>2662244

your mother.

>>2662249

Your mother's basement.

Watch me fuck this up with my non existent coloring skills. Any tips on learning how to do it? How did you anons learn coloring? Just started digital recently.

inb4 its already fucked up.

>>2662433
You should focus on drawing a face that doesn't look like she has downs syndrome.

>>2662437
Not the first time I have got that comment. What about my faces make people say my characters have down syndrome in particular?

>>2662433

>>2662453
hmmm the angle on this seems better.

>>2662453
Eyes are completely fucked. Head shape is better though.

>>2662433
Looking at some coloring tutorials. What is the best method for a beginner in coloring to pick up which is easy/ will develop skills well.

Trying a multiply layer + flat/ base layer approach. What do you guys do?

I miss the old times when we had anime thread and actual stylization thread

>>2662493
Ic is 100% shit now familia

If youre a faggot who reflexively posts "X was always shit" then feel free to bite a bullet

>>2662495
Nah, it's not 100% shit. Sure, a lot of good artists left and everywhere is full of weebshit, but there are some good artists around, and I always get good critique whenever I post

>>2662453
>trying to fit the ass and tits in one pose

ugh

>>2662502
>trying to fit tumblr and feminist in one post

ugh

>>2662493
Yeah. Whoever decided that anime and actual stylization threads to be combined is a retard.

>>2662513

>change it back
>autist complains why they can't post western stylization in anime thread
There is a good reason why and there was never a merge just an additional word to make everyone happy.

>>2662513
that's wrong faggot
looooong ago like 5 months ago, before this chiconigger tripfag makes each and every single one of these threads, we actually got really good non anime altfags.
thdark was an example, now no more, he sulks in the draw threads now.

>>2662561
>>/ic/thread/S2614246#p2616669

>>2662578
is this based on an anime?

>>2662513
>>2662493
>combined
they were never a seperate thing, we talked about this already, mikufuck. do you have alt-style-mers or something?

>>2662567
And his stuff will never be used in the OP pics of these threads. Or anyone that don't draw anime for the matter.
Can't be helped since this chiconigger always makes a new thread 20 posts before the thread dies.
Consider the alt threads a /beg/ thread for animeshitters

>>2662661
https://i.warosu.org/data/ic/img/0026/06/1468793232583.png

honestly why are you so angry?

>>2662439
Not him, but she has a pretty plump face, give her some more pronounced cheekbones and raise her jawline a bit. Her eyes are too high and slightly too far apart, and the irises are too small.
also keep in mind the hairline before you add hair, as she looks like a baldy in a badly-fitting wig

>>2662659
Neither of those Anons, but let me tell you how it is; once upon a time an Anon suggested "Anime" threads and was quickly frowned upon by /ic/ elitists that feared traffic coming from /a/ leaving /ic/ plagued by beginners.

After a while of constant crying and moaning, to appease the complaints it was decided to rename these threads "Alternative art/Stylization" for the purpose of removing "Anime" since that phrase alone sparked controversy.

The emphasis of the Anime threads was to act as a containment general to keep those who drew anime out of the regular drawthreads it was never meant to be legitimate it was only to serve as a filter but of course /ic/ managed to find something else to complain about and fast forward 3 years later here we are coming full circle.

You're all faggots.

wouldn't be surprised it's the same 2 fags trying to repeat history

>You will never relive the golden years back then when Teal line guy was around.

>>2662493
I miss the old times when lucky niggers would get redlines and advice from people like Teal but when I post now I just get called a faggot and to figure it out myself

>>2662699
Speaking of Teal, are Simon and Conoghee the same person? I always wanted to see what he was doing now

>>2662701
I don't know I haven't seen Teal's work in years since he's left. I did hear rumors about some sort of dedicated board over at hotwheels that features his work but nobody says what it is because of muh seekrit club.

>>2662671
you forgot your trip, lil' /ic/ wrecking bitch

>>2662705
kek not even them I'm just pointing out your autism

>>2662708
Honestly, why are you so angry?

>>2662659
thats exactly what i mean when i say they were never a separate thing. There was never a time when there was both an alt thread and anime thread instantaneously (the first two anons imply that there was), because they are the same thing, just different aliases from two different periods.

>>2662703
I speak to Simon often via another persons stream. He does post in the hotwheels website. Ask him if you catch the stream

>>2659260
Real question here:

What do you define as 'people who made it'?

>>2660635
wow

>>2661903
>proving anons point by posting subpar animation

What shit taste

>>2661903
If I was going to use a gif to show everything that's wrong with modern anime, that gif is a pretty good candidate. The fact that you're using it to show off, speaks volumes about you.

>>2662715
so how's simon doing these days

>>2662715
at least spoonfeed me the stream so I can ask, anon, I just wanna see Teal again

Its Conoghi isnt it? Does that nig even have a stream?

>>2659347

>>2662764
>i can't even tell what the hell is he doing wrong
>i don't even know what kind of critique or fixes he wants by posting this here
>tfw i havent learned a single thing from these threads
>we've reduced to this
Dont tell me the era is real

>>2662769

What is this era you speak of?

>>2662772
some faggot said we're in this maldraws era or something where people posts art just to show off regardless of their level instead of wanting critique in /ic/.
thus explaining the absence of redlines and good critique we're having recently.

I don't know. Was /ic/ has always been this bad? I mean this time it's really really bad, Back then we got shitposts and lots of drama but at least we got good redlines. Now its just shitposts and a bit of drama and literally nothing learned.

>>2662769
Im having trouble with the neck, Im trying to make it look more like she is leaning her head to the side but it comes forward. But itd be cool if a fresh pair of eyes could tell me if anything else is wrong with it.

Please dont take it personally anon. Why are you so mad that someone else inexperienced is posting here?

>>2662781
Im not posting to show off, is that what you guys think?

>>2662781
>Was /ic/ has always been this bad?
kek
I first opened /ic/ in 2008 or 2009 and the first thread I saw was bemoaning how shit the board has become with everyone either bitching about muh style or being an attentionwhore

>>2662787
who knows anymore
nobody here knows two shits about art
all the good ones we got are dead

i dont know why

>>2662781
Hmm, that's fascinating. As someone who redlines the only reason I do so is for my own practice first, original artist 2nd. If the redline helps the other anon then that's great but me redlining drawings for the sake of helping others is never 1st priority. Redlining can be, in itself, a way of showing off because then you have lots of people replying on the redline saying 'wow this is great!'. I imagine others who redline have similar mentality on this subject; it benefits the redliner as well.

>>2662781
>tfw /ic/ also shames beginner critiques because of their bad red lines so as a result, there's never more people who learn how to critique

>>2662785
its shit but i dont know why
try putting that in your blog, if it got more than 10 notes then its good. if it got less then stop drawing

>>2662785
Ignore him he is mentally ill and spamming.

>>2662796
I dont want to put it on my blog because its bad.

Im in the same situation myself, Ive been working at it for hours inbetween studies but I cant tell whats going on. Thats why I posted it here, I know it sounds like begging but I just want some anon to redline or tell me if they see anything wrong that I cant.

>>2662797
>/ic/ is literally in flames atm
>listen to me, everything is fine
>just post your drawings, shill your blogs, hug each other and you'll be fine
please die slow

>>2662805

It's just the same guy (you) jumping from thread to thread starting shit.

>>2662803
just keep working on it buddy.
looks great to me.

>>2662764
It's great, it's great. yeah. much better than what i can do.
yeah, it's great. this is very nice.

>>2662814
Now say something about how you like the colors, you gotta say that, and post a pic of someone giving a thumbs-up. Weebs love that shit.

>>2662650
Whoop.

Sorry for the late reply mango. Nah, it's not from any specific anime. Just an idea I have for a comic that I'll probably write in a couple years.

It's set in the 70's and people have like psychic abilities, and it's really campy and crazy, and they fight with guitars and music and shit (cept for the Pompadour guy), and the MC is this comically suicidal guy based off Jimi Hendrix who befriends the Muse of Music Euterpe and kickstarts his journey to become the greatest musician ever by "fighting" all the musicians above him, like Radio-head (literally a guy with a Radio for a head), The Stone Boulders, Madame Lalala, etc...

Idk why, but I feel this song really encapsulates the idea I have for this comic really well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiY-SgAFUUY

I see it as told from the POV ofthe Hendrix guy, or as I'm calling him atm, Joni Rockets.

>>2662830
Ah, and here is the design I drew for the MC like 3 years ago. I gotta redraw him a bit, but well.

>>2662830
Real nice. Good thing you posted in this thread otherwise i'll never heard of it.

>>2662832
are you black?

>>2662843
No, I'm white actually. It's just Jimi Hendrix is pretty boss. If you're gonna make a music themed story you can't leave out "the greatest guitarist to have ever lived."

>>2662838
Someday man...

I just gotta git gud before I get going with any projects.

>>2662858
so you.re hispanic?

>>2662878
Yeah, born in Spain raised in the US.

You can see my goofy face here:
http://manlyspirit.deviantart.com/

>>2662880
>this is what mexicans actually believes

>>2662880
>http://manlyspirit.deviantart.com/
are you homosexual?

>>2662762
>Its Conoghi isnt it? Does that nig even have a stream?
Teal is not Conoghi

>>2662880
>tfw it's the Legend of Zelda guy
Huh, so you do have a blog.

>>2662884

>>2662889
Yep, it's me.

Funny story about that Zelda one, people are actually loving it. It's really encouraging:

http://manlyspirit.tumblr.com/

Easily my most liked piece. I uploaded on tumblr recently, and it's really making the rounds. I guess that it's easier to get noticed on there than dA.

>>2662885
Not to my knowledge.

>>2662807
Heres the thing, Ive redrawn that Reimu like 500 times now. I know somethings off with the construction but cant figure it out. I move something on the face, throws off the rest of the head and I have to reconstruct it.

Dont know if this is natural or if im retarded.

>>2662887
I was talking about the stream in question but thanks for changing the subject

>>2662907
The only thing that matters is that you drew something today.

>>2662764
here you go

>>2662923
you need to provide a description with your redline
what he's doing wrong etc

>>2662925
draw to perspective, draw through, loomis.

tried to paint over sketch

>>2662894
>Not to my knowledge.
So you could be homosexual?

>>2662948
so?
what exactly are you looking to fix?

>>2662953
i'm looking for some tips, now i notice that i forgot about speculars on skin. horns also are off-perspective, was too lazy to fix them.

>>2662948
paint from life

>>2662948
Hey anon, how do you get your construction and sketches to look so clean? Are these all done at once or over a base drawing?

>>2662951
Never been attracted to men, never been curious about gay porn or anything either. But I guess the possibility might be there. You never really know I guess. But I guess that'd make me bi, not homo, should that ever crop up, as I still definitely like girls.

I was a little perv as a kid mango. Used to look up girls skirts and stuff. I even groped my babysitter's boobs when I was like 8 years old. Cops came to my house once for smacking a girl's butt on the school bus when I was 9. Something something sexual harassment, you know how America is...

Anyway, I've always been of the opinion that everyone is naturally bi, considering nature - animals don't care what they fuck, they just wanna fuck. And then you have the Greeks, the Romans, and the Samurai who were all openly bi in various ways - but we're conditioned into being Hetero by our environment, and some select few who lean more to being homosexual feel repressed by that.

What was that called? The Kinsey scale or whatever? Yeah, I think that's pretty accurate, it's more of a spectrum of sexual preference, with everyone kinda starting out bi, with a certain preference, and then being conditioned into liking one more over the other.

But what I mean is, if you put two people on an island, regardless of gender or sexual preference, they will fuck. It's just a human need to desire sexual connection. And the heart will settle for what the heart can get. So two hetero girls will wind up fucking, two hereto dudes, a gay girl and a gay dude will fuck, etc... Doesn't matter. Nature and human instinct, always have their way.

That's my take on all that.

>>2662969
yea, i think it can help to get rid of this plaster looking
>>2662970
they were done at once. sometimes i do gesture before, then go into construction.

>>2662959
did you see that right hand?
do you need me to remind you to go /beg/?

>>2662983
>cherrypicking

>>2662977
Im curious as how you get it to look so clean though, like do you keep track of how many lines you make?

>>2662984
Don't take him seriously man. Most of this thread is pretty shit at art. Or rather, most of the people giving "critique."

That's why you always see people point out "bad anatomy" as it's literally square one when it comes to learning art. /ic/ in general just like putting people down, especially if they're better artists than they are.

>>2662948
how does that hand even works senpai

>>2662986

stfu

>>2662987
>>2659509

>>2662991
that didn't help one bit. she still looks like some kind of cripple

>>2662948
Youre from Korea right anon? How do they look at the fundamentals and all that over there? Is Loomis known at all?

>>2663018
koreans don't draw like that.

>>2663027
good shit

>>2663026
Hes Korean, his filenames have been in Korean before

new thread >>2663034

>>2662976
>Cops came to my house once for smacking a girl's butt on the school bus when I was 9

How did it feel? The butt on a 9 year old?

>>2662976
so do you prefer black men?

>>2659425
what's the sauce on this?

>>2662058
>>2662737
>>2662739

You guys are full of shit, till you can prove to me you can make animation even 10% close to this. I'm not going to listen to it.

You're opinions, in the trash it goes fullstop.

t. animator

>>2663129
face and head are in different perspectives

>>2663129

>>2663186
idk why but the face seems like it's squishing into the center of the face, also the forehead is a bit too large. Other than that it's a nice painting overall.

>>2663186
you made it worse gj!
>>2663027
oh neat you just had a lil skill boost

>>2663413
LOL they were diffrent? I could hardly tell haha

>>2663441
i just open both of them in new pages and jump from one to another when i cant tell.