/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

is this good?

>>2645244
Cute and good

>>2645314
stop

>>2645342
Uninspired but good movie

>>2645244
When will I be able to draw gud?

>>2645382
when /ic/ starts begging for your blog

>>2645342
did you draw that?

>>2645342
This is really good

- Chum

>>2645385
>he doesn't know everyone ironically asks for a blog as a form of mockery.

baka desu senpai

>>2645388

drew a mercy pinup for fun tonight

>>2645389
ahah did you draw that?

>>2645408
Nope, dont know the artists name but he posts around here

>>2645414
Looks like Boa.

generic anime slut

So, how does one draw anime hair, any good guides?

Feeling really uncreative tonight, drew something generic to get a kick start, hopefully tomorrow will be better.

Not sure if this is the right place, but better way to manage artists you follow on Pixiv? I've somehow ended up following over 500 over the years and need to cut that down.

>>2645388
Please don't perpetuate this bullshit because I actually follow fellow d/ic/ks on their blogs.

>>2645388
but I don't, I ask unironically, not-gonna-make-it chan

>>2645439
blog?

Would it be a good idea to try and do stuff stylistically alongside learning it realistically? like follow an eye thing, draw the ye as best i can realistically then try and simplify it for my own sake.

>>2645727
You first

>>2645439
blog?

How have I done

How have I done?

>>2645740
Show me yours and I'll show you mine

"You first"

>>2645748
Very nose bro like.

>>2645749
I'm not asking you to post your work. blog?

>100% shitposting and sketches
>no color works or complex perspective
and i learned nothing today

>>2645760
it's just you

>>2645762
i posted this
>>2645439

came here for some crits wound up getting shitposted for blogs
no thank you, i already got 2k followers and getting an extra 2 or 3 wont do much to help me get more commissions

>>2645748

>>2645439
>>2645727
>>2645737
>>2645765

don't be like that anon, I just like your art. Here I made a quick redline, may I have blog now? I wont share I swear.

>>2645482

>>2645827
Going over the silhouette is not a redline, usually redlines on /ic/ were a different approach in gesture altogether giving an example of either a more aesthetic posture that compliments composition or a more straight forward figure that is easy to read.

>>2645831
kek

>>2645812
>>2645831
cease this homosexual activity

>>2645837
I thought redlines in general are just to serve as any type of improvement to a picture since they are easy to see, my bad

I'm surprised that girls look like 50% better with an ahegao.

>>2645439

>>2645846
what's the arm on right (without visible hand) doing

breh dyel lmao wheres the triceps

>>2645244
>Not posting the ahegao version.

>>2645919
>look, I copypaste epic ahegao from manga XD
Epic

>>2645944

>>2645414
>>2645416
Pretty sure it's Boa.

note I've just started the shadow layer mins ago
most progress is coloring and re-use of previous layer to fit with the base colors

any feedback appreciated

>>2645994
pretty cute love the shading any tips for shading im having hard time shading. D-Danke in advance.

>>2645994
this is firez tier work over here
you're perfect already

>>2645994
uncanny.

>>2645831
Did you draw that? I like your face outline better than mine

What sort of guidelines/landmarks do you guys look for when drawing moe eyes? They're so different from realistic eyes and I feel like I'm really struggling.

>>2646082
>Did you draw that?
Yes.

>I like your face outline better than mine
You forgot the cheeks. They extend much further out than the eyes, and you need to consider this when drawing the face from a top-down angle.
Even an anime face isn't flat.

i need this guys blog

>>2646096
you need to make/add the eye lashes. also the eye lid should be recolored to the iris color more curvier. Also the eyes should more colorful and brightful if your going for moe style.

>>2646106
>the eye lid should be recolored to the iris color more curvier
...wat? I mean, I can piece some of this together, but what

>>2646104
http://hersheyschocobar.tumblr.com/
>>2646057
bad joke
>>2646062
that's the point

>>2646096
eyelashes basically are 3d curves in 3d space, look up scott robertson, learn to rotate those 3d curves in space, mirror them, then you can modify them to get those different type of eyes. for iris look for eyeball anatomy and ellipses.

>>2646134
firez is actually good tho

>>2646127
sorry i made this confusing im not good at explaining, added alot of info on 1 sentence. I meant as the eyes should be more circular not consistent single line that can be broken down into 3 parts. Also the eye lid itself should be recolored to the iris color pic. related hope it helped the recolor part is your own style but this is what i see most of the time when i see moe artists they usually recolor the eye lid into a more lighter color usually the same color as the iris.

>>2646150
Ah, gotcha.

I'll keep it in mind but that's not something I'm even really considering right now. I'm still worried with constructing the eyes (their position, spacing, form of the curves and where they should point, shape of the iris, etc.) All the tutorials I've found so far have been garbo, essentially giving you a list of elements to put on the eye (which everyone can see lol) but not telling you how to place a pair on a face. So far I just draw 10-15 trash faces until I get one that looks decent through a fluke, but I'd like to understand better how they're made so I can sketch them naturally.

Maybe it's my face construction as a whole that's just terrible, though. Anyway, thanks for the advice.

>>2646180
trying sketching with a bigger canvas might help you. And the eye construction becomes better with practice and lots of references. good luck anon. i dont know if u will understand it or not but try to keep sketching the eyes dont draw it as a lineart?
also since i dont which gif apps i used gyazo pretty quick:
https://gyazo.com/8bb2e081be548593d9554d689e9f5d97
https://gyazo.com/2c0c5a8ea635d48539c781d803d2b870

hope its helpful good luck

>>2645812
>Fuck you
I'm done with this board

>>2646202

>>2646196
>Those lines
Sorry, but that looks like absolute shit.

>>2646207
>it wasnt suppose to be good
its just a sketch for guidance. Contribute something please.

>>2645812
Guess I just chose the wrong day to post.

>>2646210
It doesn't matter what it is. It's just that the blind shouldn't lead the blind.

>>2646216
go away

protagonists of my future comics.
>zozzle at fucked perspective.

>>2646229
I like what you did with the speech boxes

>>2646216
well not as blind as you.

>>2646229
looks cool, would read it

>>2646275

>>2646294

O-oh god my dickkkkkkkkkkk

>>2646296
>>2646294
stop samefagging

>>2646275
>>2646294
daMN!

>>2646294
blog
>>2646275
did you draw that?

>>2646469
nigga had a stroke just make the eyes perpendicular

>>2646479
whaddya mean? redline?

>>2646469
As for a sketch, I think the eyes is the only one that needs some fix.

>>2646466
yes is it bad should i kill myself cause not enough loomis?

>>2646488
No, you're better than that namefag. You do need a bit of loomis though.

>>2646485
Thanks I think I get what you mean... although she looks a bit strange to me in your fix. like she has a flat face. I tend to draw the eyes quite deep set back into the skull

I suck right ?

>>2646512
kinda. but dont give up first tip make min size 0%-5% so your drawings become fluid not blocky good luck~

>>2646512
her legs are like fleshy blobs. your first task is to study leg anatomy.

>>2646522
>>2646512
also when linearting make sure your stabilizer is high enough up to 15 atmost your drtawings doesnt get shaky. you will find it at top of the canvas.

>>2646512
yes.

>>2646502
I do agree. Though in your sample the view is from below which gives an angle that causes the nose cartilage to block the eyes since the eyes are sitting at a socket.

The sketch on the other hand has an angle closer to a straight line so eyes sitting on a socket or the nose blocking the eyes wont be apparent as much.

>>2646526
yeah, I totally fucked everything with those rare legs
>>2646528
I use s-3 but I starting drawing like 3 weeks ago, so still need more practice with the pen
>>2646529
I know
>>2646522
the min size for the line art ? Good to know, I always use 100%, so next time will try with less

>>2646533
yes min size when linearting its best to use low min size since you get a smoother line.
Also after S in my opinion is hard to handle try to use at 15 or s-1 and your doing pretty good for 3 weeks progress!
>>2646496
D-Danke!

so how fucked up did i fuck loomis also tried new coloring technique idk if its for better or worse.

>>2646553
That left hand and jagged chin really need work.
It also doesn't really look like she's leaning forward that much - kinda just looks like a frumpy midget.

>>2646553
hes just saying that to spite me. im actually amazing

>>2646567
post work

>>2646567
Hey buddy I think /beg/ is the other way.

>>2646567
He is legit better than you, fact.

flat

>>2646577
Read the sticky.

>>2646577

>>2646584
don't you mean report and ignore?

>>2646584
its the "STYLE" thread retard

>>2646595
k bud

>>2646598
>girl/boy?
>scared or not?
>what's going on??
but good coloring i think, also the expression he's given is too exaggerated its like he/she was forced to be scared. G-Goodluck!

>>2646598
It's cute, but I recommend revisiting color theory and how hue changes with light.

wanna see a magic trick?
>>2646641

that's how very relevant this guy is to /ic/

>>2646600
nice gestural feel to this

Another doodle

>>2646676
I like the way you're just posting your art like this is the post whatever you just drew in the past hour thread.

It's like you think your art is absolutely superior and rather than wanting critique, you expect others to ask you for tips how to draw like you.

Really reminds me of Maldraw.

>>2646686
k

>>2646676
her chin is too pointy/big and her legs are way too small compared to the rest of her body

>>2646229
yo this is so rad, the perspective, the textboxes...good shit. blog?

and ill see where this goes

>>2646686
It's not like that at all, I don't think anyone's ever asked me for tips other than hair once.

This is what I've done all day and input from other people really helps me, almost every time I apply something someone's suggested I do, specially when it comes to anatomy.

It's not like I think too highly of my art, I'm never satisfied with how it looks but I can rarely pinpoint what I don't like specifically, that's why I come here thinking I'm not hurting anyone by just posting what I've done.

>>2646693
Yeah, I don't think the foreshortening looks too great on the leg, I'll see what I can do.

>>2646676
How do you get that effect of gray on the figure but a white bg?

>>2646699
just respond to him

>>2646699
don't respond to him

>>2646699
tell me how to draw like you senpai
boa, lefty, you and pops are my inspiration, i literally have no other artists to look up to.

>>2646695

>>2646728
The background is really weird since it seems to basically have a different horizon line than the foreground.

>>2646229
Do you have any screename I can follow?

>>2646728


>>2646735
ah fair point, it does look odd. thanks.

gonna work on that deers anatomy in the AM.

>>2646568
>>2646570
>>2646571
im going to take a big risk here and call you out out samefagging at least 2 of 3

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

>>2646832
chest doesn't align with the rest of the body's angle

>>2646567
Never saw your work so cant say anything.
>>2646565
>frumpy midget.
kek.
What do you mean jagged chin as in pointy chin? also how do i actually make her leaning forward i tried so hard to find a reference i barely got anything did this pose out of blocks and stick man so im guessing thats why it looks like a midget. but thanks for mentioning it i knew there's something wrong with the pose entirely.

>>2646229
Amazing style cant wait too see this comic.

>>2646229
So is it hotline miami/payday but with grils?

>>2646512
dekk?

>>2646238 >>2646292 >>2646695 >>2646781 >>2646845 >>2646856
Thanks. as always.

>speech boxes
I was stressed constructing perspective. maybe my unconscious mind made me apply perspective on speech boxes too. however I think they look blend. which is not good for dialog. and transforming text while keeping it readable was harder than expectation.

>perspective
I made it without ref. because it was my intention. a challenge to my comfort zone. that's why i was so stressed doing this. overall proportion is okay with me... but feet is too small.

>blog
https://legochalk.wordpress.com
yes i don't have tumblr.

>screenname
"LeCh". yes it's cringy.

>hotline miami / payday
kinda similar. but, both are way dramatic than mine. mine is more like documentary.
It's long long story spanning pre-apocalypse to post-apocalypse. survival horror plus humanism i'd say.

I also uploaded time lapse video. just for shits and giggles.
https://youtu.be/5MTA1pdTbeQ

>>2646485
>>2646484
this is not at all what i meant
tried to keep style consistent.
>>2646568
>>2646838
i dont even draw so its normal you dont see my work

>>2646898
did you purposely chose to reply to many people in such a shitty way or are you new?

>>2646900
Whoa nosebro can draw cute?

>>2646900
nosebro confirmed better than 90% of /ic/

>>2646902
only if im forced to follow someone elses style.

>>2646902
>>2646904
thank you for samefagging to support my cause

>>2646900
>>2646902
>>2646904
>>2646908

How many layers of irony did you smoke this morning. What the fuck is happening here.

>>2646908
Like look at this. This is terrible.

????

>>2646916
can you redline me:)? ill even give you a free tip: you can make the mouth small for instant gratification. Just like yours.

>>2646901
lol I did that because I thought those replies had many duplicate mentions such as perspective, blog, etc. now I see there's none. my bad!

>>2646908
>that mouth
I don't want to say, but we're all thinking it right

>>2646920
You're gonna need to spell it out for me because I honestly dont know.

Guys how long is this gonna last?
The ratio useful posts to cretinous shitpost is down to oblivion.
This is terrible. Why don't you leave for shitty threads and keep that one decent?

>>2646931
THEN POST YOUR WORK AND STOP COMPLAINING SENPOO

>>2646918
>just like yours

Did you just insult me by calling my mouth small..? What?

Also ive been down this path before and you ignore anyone who is better than you and continue to shitpost.

Also, whats the point when you post stuff like this.
>>2646932

Like haha nigga what

It's very preliminary, but any comment/crit/help on the colors/values for this?

>>2646960
Darker water with color reflection from the sky.also some color variation on the dino thing, around the same value as the dark reds

>>2646960
that perspective lines without actually any use at all... you're not working from solid fundies, you would have to remake everything witohut actually relying on it

to be honest, to work in a picture with that aproach you must be exceptionaly intuitive

we can see lot of pros aproaching painting like that, but you don't see how they think or the muscles behind doing it

you're not gonna progress too far going in like that, focus on one thing at a time if you plan to carry further that concept, and you might ask then for feedback on every step

that means 1. focus on the drawing, not the colors and values at the same time, you just make it harder
2. use one or few references for every single thing, that perspective shot, sea, city skyline, helicopter, etc

>>2646968
Something like that? I'm a bit retarded.

>>2646978
I'm the bear guy, so you can judge my abilities/level based on that.
Just to let you know, this is just a thumb to get the colors right. I'm going to do the drawing in perspective correctly , like I do for my other works.

>>2645846
NOOOOO

where is the first one you posted?

I was not home when I first saw them so I could not save them (liked more the first version too)

>>2646987
make it smaller to work as a thumb

values of midground (city) are competing with foreground (dinosaur)
colorwise, it lacks unity and saturation variations, mind atmosperic perspective, it should tone down everything

atm ocean waves are like the dino is sized as a person, it should ge a gradient instead

Part 2 of fucked up loomis how did i do this time?

>>2647019
QT
dont hide her hands~

>>2647025
B-but i have a hard time drawing hands i better hide it.

>>2646583
nice lines my dude

>>2646676
Wheres that hourglass figure senpai? Her body is like a big ass barrel

are the bug eyes too un appealing? i'm still trying to find a personal style for quick work. i want to learn to draw cutely (i'm sorry for no hands and feet! i will try my best to draw some! always a struggle for me.)

>>2647084
first rule to draw something cute the lineart should be fluid without it looks rough. like yours right now for baggy eyes to try to make a new layer and use an airbrush for the effect its easily done also looks neater.
>>2646676
I honestly dont know if i made it any better but here you go your drawings aint that bad honestly you just need to reshape some parts of the body but over all its fine and i really love how u done with hands most people still struggling to draw hands. so be proud of yourself ! :)

>>2646995
>make it smaller to work as a thumb
what are the advantages of working on a smaller size?
Given that you can just make your brushes bigger and all that.
Like that I just have one file where I keep my refs, VPS and all that. But maybe I'm missing on something.

Thanks for the useful comments by the way. Does this roughly implement what you suggested?

Interlocking hands are super tough... any help or redlines in general?

>>2647204
left slap would destroy her wrist

and I am not speaking about her size or the fact that she's hitting a building, but how she does it. When you slap something you need to hold your wrist right, or less, well, try it with your main hand, as hard as you can.

just saying

>>2646991
BUMP
UMP
MP
P

ahahaha that joke with hentoi face

>>2647204
Just take a photo of your own hands in that position. It's not like hands are something hard to get good ref of.

Cum at me bros!
>inb4 different size tits
Right now they are too many layers to fix will liquify later.

>>2647285
let me teach you how to do it, even with 20 layers behind

first of all, select all, copy the combined image to make a new layer on top, liquify untill you fix it, don't liquify more than once till you get end results.

Why you may ask. Because photoshop saves your last filter properties, so you can apply the same effect on other layers later on.

You go to every layer and apply ctrl+F (the same liquify you did, will apply on these layers).

This is the way to liquify layered works, discovering this saved my life.

>>2647290
TANKS BRO <3

>>2647204
right pic seems okay
forearm is too short tho on that left arm, mind it should be in perspective with the left elbow, like the shoulders

>>2647254
You really need to work on your lines.

>>2647285
>Right now they are too many layers to fix will liquify later.
So maybe you should fix your workflow first.

Sai or photoshop?

>>2647321
both

>>2647321
Sai might help a complete beginner, but you will grow out of it quickly

Or why the fuck not go with PS from a get go.
But you need to get
- coolorur
- Lazy nezumi
- a decent set of brushes
before you start.

>>2647321
Personal preference.
Sai is more geared towards the artist but it's tools are minimal in comparison to photoshop.
Using both is also an option.

>>2646561
damn anon, that's really desu; I really like the design on the shoulderpads

>>2647254
whenever i look at your drawings, i feel as if they're pitying me, also what >>2647310 said

>>2647321
Just use both and see which one flows better for you. For me Sai feels to stiff.

>>2647325
>>2647326
>>2647339
im thinking of doing lineart in sai and coloring filter/hue and that stuff in photoshop does that sound good?

>>2647408
Yea that sounds good.

>>2647408
I started like this but moved to PS entirely because Lazy Nezumy makes it almost as good and using two programs makes workflow a clusterfuk

>>2647254

>>2647558
dat tongue

>>2647047
thanks c :

recomendation for this ? is ok ? or too small ?

>>2647655

Women like it big, so make it big.

>>2647558
kek

>>2647092
>>2647065
Thanks, I don't know what I was thinking last night and why I drew her so boxy, I wanted to make her look kinda lanky but instead of reducing the breast and hip size I made her waist really wide.

Here's my revision.

>>2647713
Just don't use Chloe Moretz as reference anymore.

>>2647558
my man

All i want is feedback and critique so please... :)

>>2647713

>>2647904
>>2647713
forgot to attach

>>2647713
Nice, thick. unlike >>2647907

>>2647909
shit taste

>>2647774
what am i looking at here?

>>2647907
Thanks, anon. You've redlined my work several times and I'm always amazed at your construction and always say I'm gonna try and do it that way but I always forget.

Again, thanks for taking the time to do this, it really helps.

>>2645429
cute

>>2647992

>>2645414
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=5076599

Going old school today - haven't inked in months, but juicy markers sure feel good

>>2646600
holy shit, I love it man

>>2646901
Shut the fuck up Nose Bro you suck.

>>2648065
my photoshop started lagging half way through so you get a half decent redline

>>2648110
:(

>>2647774
The bird tongue is too long. Also the chair should be removed doesnt make any sense, does it remember her old days through her tongue???

>>2647218
another bump

:(

Explain these facial proportions. Comparing it to Loomis, the features are drawn much larger and the chin is raised high. I assume a large part of it is for a childlike baby face. Are there any rules of cartooning to note here? Or are all the exaggerations just a certain style the artist developed on their own that I shouldn't try to replicate?

>>2648113
Ahaha what the hell

>>2648113
Usually, I'm okay with your edits, Nose Bro, but this time, you've gone too far.

I just started drawing anime last week after realizing I have no idea how to draw stylized faces. Any critique is welcome. 50/50 with ref and without.

felt something missing/wrong? here, but I dont know which one.

>>2648411
Well, you're getting there. Your noses are all over the place, but the features are there.

>>2648411
theres not a lot of trend for me to point out but in general your eyes tend to be too big or too close. You struggle a lot when it comes to keeping an eye in focus. the way you are merging your mouth in 3/4 to the side is just off.

>>2648413
H
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>>2648464
doing gods work

>>2648352
>stylized thread
>Comparing it to Loomis

Answered your question in the second sentence

>>2648352
>>2648472
in fun with a pencil loomis fucks with proportions to achieve cartoony results, this is no different.

>>2648472
>not being able to comprehend that Loomis itself is stylized.

Not. Gonna. Make it.

>>2647907

>>2648464
oh my, thanks anon. I will look into this "hampton" guy.

>>2648464
i felt like her right hand was too short. also her other hand feels awkward, don't really know, how to fix that.

>>2647920
the 7th reich

Creature design.

I need some opinions. Not sure which to decide on. It's a Dark Angel. Part of me feels a Dark Angel, being an angel, would be a lot more dignified and less slutty than say a Demon or a Succubus. However, I also feel more clothes makes it feel more like a person and takes away from the creature aspect. Thoughts?

Also, open to suggestions and whatnot.

>>2648697
blog?

wat do u think ?

>>2648722
pls resize im on mobile internet

>>2648697
C feels more fitting for an Angel.
The other two make me think she's a demon or a succubus. It's got more seductive value.

how do i add chromatic abbreviation

r8 my masterpiece

study

>>2648697
You can have something that looks inhuman while being dressed. I'd just look at designs for "dark" or "evil" creatures and outfits, and see what kind of common design themes you can find. You've already made two design decisions, a color palette (black, gold and red) and a material combo (a mix of metals a cloth).

Think about shapes. Angles look more "evil", but curves are more pure and dignified. What about designs with "evil" curves? What makes them evil-looking? Are there any sorts of motifs or patterns you could incorporate in your design to make it more alien looking?

A or B?
and....

>>2648948
and this is my color thumbnail

>>2648948
B looks better but is a upper body common pose and that kind of makes it uninteresting.
A is uncommon but you see less arm.
Pick your poison

>>2648948
I personally like A more, B is too symmetric

how improve this ?
Its look to skinny , But I dont know what to do to change that.
Any ideas ?
PS: always is the same result, I draw always with that skinny look

>>2648948
B

What seems to be my biggest weakness when it comes to line work?
I know something needs to change, but I can't put my finger on it

>>2648968

Check your proportions. The torso is super tall in comparison to the legs which makes her look weird

>>2648968
Make the arms fatter.
Head smaller.
Make her less tall (I'm counting 4 heads and the torso is still there, and 3 in torso is already tall)
Drawing is too stiff
Give her a forehead.

>>2648977
>>2648980
thanks! very appreciated

>>2648980
forgot pic.

>>2648968
>>2648990
pretty neat how a bit of squishing and stretching really improves it quite a bit

>>2648976

You have some good shapes. The hips and thighs look decent and you are using straights and curves which is nice. It's just that the figure as a whole feels disjointed - the pose is awkward and the rythms of the body just doesn't flow well, not to mention the escher shit going on with the supposedly foreshortened hand and the scabbard. I'm not feeling the sense of weight. I think it would be good for you to do gesture studies of sports action poses and martial arts to better understand how people stand and move.

Your understanding of form/perspective is in dire need of work. I recommend doing drawabox/Scott Robertson exercises.
The figure is a bit "fly swatted" where everything is viewed either straight on or in side view.

>>2648996
Thanks for the feedback, anon. I'll get on that

And here's tonight's drawing. Trying to color over the lineart rather than removing it completely, thoughts?

>>2648152
I'll be here waiting whole thread

>>2648711
Here you go:
http://manlyspirit.deviantart.com/
http://manlyspirit.tumblr.com/

I got a lot of stuff in the pipeline, so expect a huge update in a couple weeks. I normally work on like 5-6 things at the same time.

>>2648728
Yeah, I agree with this train of though. I think I might make variations to it though, while keeping C as the standard.

>>2648923
Well, kinda. I am kinda following somewhat strict rules in designing the creature though.

Basically, it's for a monster-catching/raising game like Pokemon, except with a more competitive angle, and a more realistic art style (I'm not actually making the game, I just give myself little projects like this to work on, I did write up all the mechanics and stuff, so maybe some day...)

Anyway, it breaks down as such:

You have 20 different species, and you can combine two species. Hominids basically = bipedal and human-like. Hominids are a species that can't be unpaired actually. So anyway, Hominid + Fairy = Angels.

However, in addition, all Creatures fall into one of 8 Star signs, each star sign being either Yang (+) or Yin (-), for a total of 16 different types or Elements.

Saturn creatures are basically either Spirit (Yang) or Chaos (Yin). As a whole though, all Saturn creatures have high Resistance (S.Def), and Agility, but poor Luck. Saturn associates with the ritualistic, spiritual, mystical, and occult. They use somewhat underhanded tactics in combat to gain the upper hand, such as Instakill moves, life drain, or even the ability to "corrupt" foes to have them turn on their allies.

So basically, Hominid + Fairy with a (Yin) Saturn Attribute = Dark Angel. Hominid + Fairy with a Sol Attribute (Yin or Yang, mainly Yang though), would be a regular Angel.

>>2649206
cont:

I already have Demons too as a species, which would be more edgy and evil-looking. It's an entire species too, so I have plenty to work with there, especially if I combine it with other species. Demon + Hominid would be something more human-like in appearance, but still with that distinct demonic look. So like a Succubus and stuff would fit there.

A Dark Angel, I feel, is still an Angel. It's just dwelling with Darker and more Taboo elements. Like Black in MtG. It's also fallen to decadence and stuff. It's not longer pure and altruistic like a regular angel.

Oh yeah, I also didn't draw any of the refs I have for species in the last post. They're all strictly refs for monster ideas.

And if anyone wants to give creature design a go using these rules, I could better explain myself if you'd like. I'm also working on a Mystical Dragon with feathered wings that has a Sol Attribute.

>>2649206
>>2649211
Oh yeah, forgot to add. A Dark Angel isn't the only type of creature you can get by combining Hominid+Fairy with a Yin Saturn attribute. You can have pretty much anything that fits that criteria. A Dark Angel was just the first that came to mind for me.

I know using reference isn't a bad thing but when it comes to stylized drawings I wish I was better at drawing from memory.

>>2649225
dude, where's the cheeks and the cheekbone?

>>2649225
I normally use real life models and people as ref for stylized characters. Pic related, all of them used a real person as ref/inspiration.

It often helps lay down that base for you to tweak and work with. It's also a lot of fun. People are interesting man. Everyone has certain unique shapes and forms to them, and it's quite fun to stylize and exaggerate certain features. If I don't use ref, my characters often come out a lot more generic. Using ref often helps give me that edge that really makes them stand out. Also, use real life ref for stylized characters, don't copy other anime or whatever. I often find that if my ref is from other stylized work, the characters wind up looking less unique and original.

Keep in mind that you're DESIGNING, not drawing. When designing, using ref is not "not a bad thing" but in fact absolutely imperative. If you were to just draw, or churn out some poses or whatever, then yeah, you don't really need ref. But if you're specifically designing a character, research and reference are two very critical steps man. The only exception being when you already have a very clear picture in your mind of what you want the character to look like. Or if you're working with a hyper stylized look that uses shapes rather than forms (Johnny Bravo, Dexter's lab, Old Disney cartoons, etc...). My two cents.

>>2649245
It's kind of a stylistic choice, I find flat faces and prominent chins appealing.

>>2649246
Yeah, although I have a severe case of same-face I often find it that I get more natural facial expressions when using reference.

I feel like the style I look up to the most really restricts me but I really like the way it looks, I hope that someday I can break the rules a bit but still make it look like that style.

>>2647285
The body seems weird, almost like an android. Soften the shadows and reduce the contrast between light and shadow.

>>2649225

>>2648697
pose is stiff, hips paralel to shoulders and sythe pole, head frontal and both parts of torso too

face looking no where, doll expression

>>2648976
you might want to do constructive lines like you did on her shoulder to suggest more forms more consistently everywhere, so it reads less as a shape
linework wise, you might want to push weight on some shapes to make them read before the shape that is behind, to push hand above forearm, hips above sword, and so on

it doesn't seem necesary, as rough as it is, it reads perfect already

>>2645994
"progress"
feeling sick already sigh

>>2649459

>>2649459
Right shoulder is a bit off dude. Pull it closer to the body. Looks dislocated.

is there any /ic/ discord grup that i could join ?

>>2649467
Stay away from discord.
I've lived in discord for many years, it only brings fights and misery. Try to make peace with yourself, see a therapist.

>>2649513
dude what.

>>2649537
I believe he's saying the more contact a "community" has, the more drama and fighting occurs. Joining a Discord group and chatting with a bunch of people routinely means you will likely end up distracted by retarded social bullshit, so it's better to stay in threads of anonymous people and draw. If you find yourself craving contact that badly that you seek an internet community, go see a therapist and get some help (then find some friends in your real life).

That's my take on it, but that's largely colored by my own experience.

>>2649539

Part 3 of how fucked up my loomis is. Also how do i get better at drawing backgrounds mines looks fucking disgusting and bland help.

>>2649539

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/discord

>>2647254
I actually really like this.

>>2649834
I couldn't tell what the background is

I should probably be posting in the beginners thread

>>2649886
she was supposed to be walking down a umm idk what you call it.. and next to her the sea while the other side is the road. but i represented it really badly..

>>2649952
dont know why you arent

A practice

>>2649387
You have a good point. I keep thinking in terms of an outline, not depth
Will work on this

>>2649952
The rendering on the face looks really good, but the rest just looks unfinished to the point of seeming horribly amateurish.

>>2649957
Your background lacks a horizon, which is why it looks terrible. Spend a day or two learning about one and two-point perspective, because the rest of your stuff is pretty decent.

Also, giving the bg its own lineart would help at this level. Keep in mind doing a full background is a lot of work, so if you neglect it it will come out looking bad. Setting your character in a "space" (i.e. sitting on a chair with a few objects around it making a composition) might be easier.

>>2649989
what were you practicing?

Very excited for this show, wanted to finally draw a full body again

>>2648723
trust me it's not easy to see in my neckbeard cave either

>>2650150
I really like your style, specially the pose and the hand

>>2650175
Don't reply to yourself.

>>2650150
I love the pose but the face looks bit weird doesnt suit to be a boy specially the lips likes like a black women lips. and he looks half bold almost to wig.
>>2650175
yes dont reply to yourself baka!

>>2648152
I find this image very entertaining.

>>2650150
He looks like a little kid in a giant's body. What is he, like 9 heads tall?

>>2650209
>what is shojo

>>2649467
read the sticky

>>2649225
Looks like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye_Myek22n8

>>2650200
I hate how that faggot turned it into a meme now I don't even bother scolding you losers about not making it.

>>2650301
Why is shojo???

>>2650352
looks like yaoi's hand to me.

>>2650367
Yaoi usually has a Shojo style

Part 5 of how fucked up my loomis chan is. i experimented new color technique what do you think?

>>2650421
Why is the eye in front of the hair?

>>2650430
I didnt know if i should hide the eyes or not. other then that is there any mistakes? I know that the background looks ugly as always doe.

>>2650431
By default, just hide the eyes, it looks a lot better. Also, stop hiding hands, that's lazy.

Your colours are also rather flat, the shirt and dress thing just blend together in one rather bland blob.

>>2650434
> Also, stop hiding hands, that's lazy.
sorry but didnt know what kind of pose should i give her so.. i putted her hands behind her back
>our colours are also rather flat, the shirt and dress thing just blend together in one rather bland blob.
Do you suggest me any guides for coloring clothes/folds? I really need any good tutorials around tried to search some still no result a bit understood the complex of cloth but still looks bland as you said.

Critiques please?

>>2650464
I've also drawn this and I'm quite proud of it but criticism is always helpful in my eyes. If you all see a way for me to improve I'll gladly listen.

>>2650464
First, is this a copy, referenced work, or imaginative work?

>>2650467
Referenced. I never trace or copy in ways like that. It's freehand while glancing occasionally at a character

>>2650464
Can't critique a copied picture.

>>2650464
you're begginner tier, art is a rabbit hole with so many layers, you're at the second one, as you're not doing symbol drawing, but you're still a beginner, not so nenligent tho

if you want to take the art trip, check the sticky or beginner thread resources to start learning what art fundies are about, how to understand and practice them

you don't have to quit copying what you like, but if you really want to git gud to make your own stuff, you need to grind fundies and challenge yourself with personal work

you have patience and focus to spend on rendering, invest it on useful studies instead
www.drawabox.com
learn to draw form to stop thinking 2D shapes, this is your main priority to get better

3D can be made copying a photo which already resembles 3D or you can actually design 3D in 2D trought construction/form/perspective fundies

you need to grind the second approach (I myself started minding it 1 year and half ago thx to ic)

>>2649464
thx

>>2650507
get a load of this guy

>>2650466
The kawata one is pretty good but like what >>2650507 said you really really need to practice the fundamentals, using a reference is fine but copying something ( unless it's a study ) is really not recommended to do all of the time.

>>2650436
forgot to post
>>2650434

>>2649834
Realize that everything in life does not consist of just one color, example: in trees you may think that there's just green but there's actually more like yellow,blue,purple,pink and many more.

>>2650175
OP here and I hope the hand part was sarcasm

new thread >>2650563

>>2649129
last hopeless bump
>>2650120
your mom (I am not that dude btw)

>>2650464
It's okay but just do lineart no need to focus on the shading. It will save you time and you will be able to do more character sketches per session. Thus more effective practice.

ignore the doodle on his stomach

>>2647326
my tablet does not work with lazy nizzumi and photoshop. 48 bucks wasted. i do have a intous but the pressure cuts out on the pen. the tablet i use is a perixx, its a good tablet but the nib always fallout so i gotta make little marks on the nib for it to stay on.
Also Lazy nezumi isnt that great as a tool, its good for a small amout of things like pressure and perspective if you know how to use it.
>pic related

>>2647655

>>2651084
too big
4k max
2k min
that should be enough for you to take full advantage of your brushes

>>2651084
>>2651603
I kinda use the same size 4k x 3k pixels and zoom in 100% then start drawing i dont intend to use the whole canvas just makes it more comfortable while adding subjects or references by side to aid me in my drawings.

>>2650968
bloggu?