/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

girl i drew

>>2641829
How are you getting worse? Also hows your titty-stream waifu?

Finished from the last thread

>>2641833
>titty-stream waifu
Take that back you fucking faggot

>>2641829
Holy keks those legs

>>2641833
>>2641843
>>2641846
i make you this draw thread and this is how you repay me

>>2641851
lol?

chiip chiip chiiiiip

>>2641833
Lel

>>2641846
Tbh it's the pelvis (a complete lack of it).

That and the shoulders, shoulder line isn't parallel to the chair making it look like she's not relaxed at all.

>>2641900
That would look beast if you softened some of those edges anon.

>>2641934

I might just do that a lil

pls, i need some feedback, or at least a (YOU)

>>2641942

The image is flat because of multiple light sources not being properly reflected throughout the image. Why is there light hitting his jaw on the righthand side and yet there no reflection of that throughout the rest of the form?

Latest sketch page.

>>2641829
Youre getting lazy.

>>2642004
I think im improving. This is one from the same model but two weeks prior.

Still dont know how to into hair

>>2641942
I feel like I've seen this same image with almost no progress for a year
am I wrong?
For how long have you been working on it?

>>2642005
>>2642004
dont think in terms of hair eyes nose but rather in shapes and edges

>>2641946

shid i see it now, how's this?

>>2642009

wait wat? like 2 days

>>2642066
Nice comp. Nice colors. Nice lighting.

Really nice man.

I think the hooks are a little tacked on and the piece would be altogether cleaner without them.

>>2642055
Wtf is this supposed to be? A down syndrome smurf? Asmurfers? That face is way too sunken its really smurfing with me bro.

Dicking about with colour modes to try to discover ancient Chinese secrets.

>>2642140
first you need ancient proportion secrets, her skull looks massive

nice flesh tones though.

anything glaringly wrong with this before i continue?

>>2642145
Redline pls i do not see your ancient proportions

still a wip

>>2642181
the cranium is far too large, look at this female skull and look at your portrait, see the difference? Yours also lacks dimension on the left side, making it seem stretched.

>>2641954
Why don't you ever update your tumblr anymore?

>>2642181

The jaw line is kind of ambigious and is tangent with the hair which makes the side plane of the head hard to read. You could perhaps throw in some firmer edges around the temporal era to show the planes and also define that jaw

>>2642165
Maybe the wrist of the hand holding the gun is lacking definition, but that might be just me.

>>2642190
maybe this helps

gonna try to render something fully from imagination so i made myself a girl and im gonna give that a shot. any glaring issues with anatomy or lighting. not sure how to go about doing this i dont really do digital or imagination that often. also i gave myself nice tits.

>>2642192
Get the fuck out.

>>2642192
Nice. Now my house is filled with mustard gas.

>>2642196
>any glaring issues with anatomy or lighting
yes

>>2641827
Little gouache study

>>2642196
Waist is ridiculously thin (a third of the width of the hips, lol), and the shoulders are shaded as if they were a simple box (instead of having actual muscles). The rest of the shading is surprisingly okay as far as my untrained eye can see.

If you wanna have fun with a full render go for it, but I'd say it's gonna look weird until you learn how to tack on some more solid anatomy, practice gesture a bit more, and also figure out how to draw facial expressions on imagined drawings (yours is essentially blank, but getting this right is a whole thing to study in itself).

>>2641829
Goddammit, how many times do we have to tell you to scale down those massive heads?!

>>2642210
This is great! Blog? Also curious what ref you used for it.

this isn't really working out how i want it to

>>2642196
-there isn't a hard line between the areola and the rest of the tit
-head's kinda big
-hips look kinda like those terrifying stuffed anthro sex dolls, in that there's no structure to them. give >>2635135 a read
-shoulders are kinda fucked

i can't really comment on the hands/feet but i'd suggest looking up reference for them if you can. i like the face though

>>2642261
cheers, and here you are, I don't post too often unfortunately
http://ollie-bonthron.tumblr.com/

>>2617600
Ref, which Ive deviated from a fair bit

>>2641837
i like this

>>2642117

just bought a huion 1060plus, first time digital painting from a photo as inspiration

>>2642297

here's the photo i used as a ref

>>2641829
Kek, to think you used to shitmouth 4xis, seeing you both in the same thread is sad. His stuff from imagination is better than yours from reference.

>>2641829
Can you give her my number? I'm Anon

>>2642210

>>2642304

that's a shark not a photo duuh

>>2642432

my apologies pedantic anon

Its actually a smooth hound shark or a mustelus, do you like my painting is the question?

>>2642438
It's just startdust IDIOT

>>2642210
That is not a kurd, that is a great house lady that wears a troubled look on her face because the worms took another harvester

gave up on the digital drawing. decided to just do another still life. think im gonna do a separate cloth study too

I know there are some tangents and contrast issues, but just posting cuz

>>2642606
looking really good, but his head is fucking tiny, even within the stylizing you've done

>>2642606
I think you should be considerate of the diagonals your composition makes. The line his sword makes leads the eye nowhere and then off the page. And the spear is doing the same thing. The scarf thing is cool, but similarly I think that its fighting the composition you're trying to establish. The character and rendering looks dope though.

>>2642606
what happened along your trajectory where you never learned how to draw faces

>>2642606
I like the tiny head. I think it fits.

A couple sketches of my dog, I've haven't made art for like 4 months feeling guilty af

>>2642649
What? What's wrong with his face?

fugin torsos how do they work?

>>2642619
He's supposed to be a cursed guardian. I thought it would be neat if his curse was that his body is basically stuffed into the torso and the armour basically does its own thing. That's the curse. He wants to be killed so the curse can be lifted.

in the next picture it'll be more clear.

>>2642680
there's no character to it. devoid of likeness or personality, with nothing painterly or expressive about it. looks overworked to hell.

and the other faces i've seen you draw are either uncanny valley nightmares or they have the same flaws as this one. the last thing you posted here literally didn't have a face. that centaur thing was faceless

Any thoughts on this?

I plan on changing the background up to push depth further, and pushing foreground elements to make everything more "believable"

I generally get caught up at the end of blocking in things and have difficulty pushing it so I'm trying to be more solid in making the shapes "believable"

>>2642606
hes like what 6 headlengths wide? everything else is looking great

Any thoughts on this?

I plan on changing the background up to push depth further, and pushing foreground elements to make everything more "believable"

I generally get caught up at the end of blocking in things and have difficulty pushing it so I'm trying to be more solid in making the shapes "believable"

>>2642691
Are you serious? How is it overworked? You can barely see it in the low res jpg. How is it uncanny? I'm no star at painting faces but I literally don't see anything wrong with this one.

In any case, what would you do to fix it?

>>2642546
line work is sloppy, it takes you 2 to 4 lines to capture an outline

does her arm look too long/disproportionate? Sorry its really messy right now.

>>2642721
Her left arm does look a bit long, as well as weirdly curved. Maybe bring it back about a hand length?

Her right hand looks like it's coming from behind and below her, rather than from her elbow, but that might just be me.

>>2642683
bridgman's ribcage looks too wide for me

not sure if I'm satisfied with the wings or the background circle. Thought about extending it out somehow, but who the fuck knows...

What needs work /ic/?

>>2642846
is it from life?

>>2642849
nowhere to paint qts irl, its a study of a photo

>>2642852
go to your local college and take a life drawing class or go to sessions

>>2642880
The city I live in is very small and there are only a handful of models that appear in all classes around the city. All of them are quite old too, not that they aren't a good subjects, but I'd like to study younger models as well.

things I could have done differently? Things that are just wrong?

Some gestures.

>>2643004

>>2643183
Ended up looking a lot more stiff than I imagined. The colors and the rendering is pretty good considering the realistic approach you took, but overall it seems perhaps too overrendered.

Contrast in the level of detail is a powerful way to help draw focus to one or two focal points. In this, the level of detail is really high in some parts while appropriately low in others. It's really weird and makes for focal points at all the wrong places (in particular, the building on the left side of the composition). The focus is obviously intended to be on the kiln, but there are too many things battling for that attention.

How does this color pallete look? I'm not sure if I should have a wide variety of hues or not, I want it to look sweet, cute, sugary/candy, and kind of college dorm-ish.

>>2643283
I have this one I'm working on too, and I've been stuck on it for a while. I don't have a lot of experience coloring and am really lost on what looks good.

i was designing a cyborg woman out of boredom on my sketchbook today.here it is.

critique please

>>2642748
how do you people color like this on pc?i just cant seem to ever catch this oil painting like coloring when i do it on pc since i dont know anything about how to paint digitally.its pretty good btw

>>2642727
thanks anon, I'll try that.
I know what you mean about her right hand too,, I'll try using reference.

>>2641900
>>2642140
>>2642546
>>2642606
>>2642748
>>2642994
I always become so motivated when there is so many good looking drawings here, keep it up lads

>>2642196
im feeling the high test

and another one a bloodborne hunter drawing this time from my imagination without any references.i am sorry for bad pixel quality i am on a vacation and i can only take their photos with my phone in order to post them.

>>2643314
>>2643312
>>2643311
Read the sticky and go to the beginner thread

>>2642709
this is the one time ill honestly say "that was muh style". i was putting choppy outlines on purpose, i didn't want one clean outline around everything because it would've been too dramatic so i tried to break it up. wanted the edges to be a little softer and more expressive

>>2642606
That's some fine ass fucking rendering

>>2642699
Feels 3D

Here we go

>>2643366
*forgot to resize it

>>2642994
I would have given her human sized hands and no demon cock sprouted from her forehead

>>2643364
Thanks I think!

more progress, still unsure what the focal point will be. kind of jumping around on steps- keep changing stuff.

paintovers would be appreciated

>>2641837

His hair blends with the smoke in the background too much, in my opinion.

What you think about that?

>>2643389
>still unsure what the focal point will be.
inb4 small figure just walking around.

>>2643424
I like. post full size ref plz

>>2643424
I think I saw you working on that study yesterday. The final result looks great! Colors are spot on (including some nice subtleties), forms are good, and you did solve the problem with the missing half of the face.

One area where you should work on next is the abstraction of details. Some bits are just too detailed when they have no need to be: the collar of the shirt, for example, is composed of many shaky lines in your study, when it could be abstracted to a much nicer curve or 2-3 simpler lines+curves). Another area where this is obvious is the hair: it doesn't receive much definition in shadows, which is good, but the light part has a similar level of detail all over and all the strands are the same size. You should try to perceive your volumes and changes of lights with simple forms then sparingly build detail onto them (the terminator with that nice reddish saturation could be made into a box, for example).

>>2643389
This part here looks like a prime spot for some detailing. It's already being outlined by ambient light (could add more), and you can use bounce light coming from the ground right under it to define its form.

>>2643315
Chalk brush on photoshop is pretty good for mixing this way

Any tips on making snow more visually interesting?

>>2642184
what do you use to make these?

>>2643459
here

>>2643470
Thanks a lot for the critique!

I'm not the guy you are thinking of though, I didn't post anything yesterday. I saw this photo in one of the threads here and decided to study it.

>>2643485
photoshop, some simple brushes and a few hours spread throughout a few days

>>2643424

hey man it's me from the begginer thread that was """""attempting"""" this image aswell
fuck this is so amazing, now I have to delete mine out of shame but I have a question
do you paint with colors first or paint the values and add color?

>>2643539

Hey man, sorry I guess, and thanks.
This one was painted with colors first. The idea was to practice "eyeballing" subtle colors, and round brush.

>>2643543
I like your brushstrokes and edge control, particularly on the bottom right guy.

Those highlights seem too random though, they're not defining any form.

>>2643424
scribbled on it a bit, mostly as a warmup but maybe you'll find something useful

>>2643320
eyes are huge lmao

>>2643320
beautiful

drew some good hands today

>>2643614
These are neat, I've been working on basic hand construction myself.

One advice I' give is to make sure your knuckles and nails are properly aligned because they define the form to the tubes/boxes of fingers. In your top left hand the index is rotated a good 35 degrees because you didn't align your knuckles/nail parallel to the top of the hand.

Bottom left hand also has the same problem a little bit, but most noticeably the bends between finger segments are wayyy too exaggerated, making your middle finger look broken.

Dig the cross-hatch.

>>2643539
Why does this not register like its supposed to? What is the biggest issue?

Freehand pen sketch of mall interior

>>2643614
love when people aimlessly study

>>2643614
Middle finger on the bottom left. Careful about that angle

I really like the look of concept art and so i draw with that as the end goal but a part of me feels like it's a cop-out.

>>2643655
Keep doing your studies too. There's nothing wrong with drawing "fun" stuff (you can actually learn doing that too plus it keeps you motivated), but pay attention to what sort of activities make you learn and what sort provide you with no progress.

(I'm not saying concept art is bad for practice, I'm saying going for a specific kind of painting might not be as efficient as studying fundamentals hardcore).

>>2643622
for some reason fingernails, especially the thumb's fingernail, are really hard for me. so much of the form of the finger is determined by the nail but if you mess it up even a little the whole finger looks fucked.

Howdy THREAD

>>2643655
use perspective.

>>2643639
put more contrast into the foreground. possibly add more detail to the floor-planes to make it not look like the mall entrance doors are floating

>>2643672
i use perspective all the time friend, never finished this one though

Thumbs are fucking stupid who made them

>>2643660
I feel like i learn quite a lot from any drawing i do, i only recently got alright at doing lines and even if the drawing turns rubbish i'm happy if i remembered to use layers properly and not fuck up like in pic related.

>>2643711

>>2641837
its good, i like the.. seems a little flat around the feet

I cant into drawing.
I made drawing.
I like drawing.
I look at my drawing.
I get sad.

>>2643750
eyes are very animu so don't worry bout that

the face can be put under "style" but not the whole mainstream chin

still unfinished in shading or colors if you use any

Anime characters are poop anyways so it doesn't matter cos they defy normal human anatomy

Work on hands and you'll be selling hentai art in no time :^)

>>2643283
>>2643286
these are really neat

>>2643480
I love how Fisk from DD can be applied to this sketch

>>2643752
That bad, huh?

>>2643790
Things take time my friend and you'll make it in no time!
take an sanic :3

>>2643750
If you wanna draw anime, start doing a bunch of naked realistic studies anyway. Read the sticky, pick a book, and get to work.

What you drew is a two-dimensional frontal diagram. While it can display some proportions, it is not the key to drawing. To draw good, you will have to position imagined volumes in 3d space while understanding human anatomy and most of its details. This means drawing your subjects in dynamic poses. This means picturing the body structure of your subject before adding clothes. This means learning realistic proportions, anatomy, and gesture before stylizing them (which is what anime is).

The good news is that it takes less time to draw anime than it does to draw like michelangelo, so if you apply yourself and have good learning habits you can draw passable stylized drawings with a few months of practice.

>>2643750
I'M NOT THAT GREAT BUT WE STILL GOTTA TRY MAYNEEEE
>>2643821
Any tips as gettin' gud like Based Gustave Dore?

>>2643827
I'm sure Gustave Dore read his Loomis like a good boy and didn't draw any 2d poses.

>>2643830
posting 2d as filler but have been tryin' to human for some time now and yet a thing holding me back is the lack of a ruler. Been usin' multiple edges ex: paper, books, spatula
But I'm runnin out of stuff to use and I can't buy a fucking ruler cos any store close to me if far away!
It hurts to live...
Thanks for the advice tho

>>2643842
use... use your dick

>>2643853
>implying I haven't?

Kanker sisters from that thread last time.

>>2642186
working, not a lot of time to draw my stuff. I'll post these soon though.

Lord knows i''ll never draw rocks right.

>>2642184
His orc nose is so tiny!

Blog?

>>2643866
love your style man, the "yankee" one was great

>>2643885
learn perspective please. this whole picture is a mess. I can't tell if that's water with reflections(which also make no sense cause some have no source for whats reflected) or ground that is supported as arches.

>>2643866
facial structure is good but you should practice noses more, they look off compared to the everything else

>>2642895
You just want to see tits.

>>2643908
ground supported by arhces, sorry, i got lazy.

quickie

>>2643924
looks like somethin from jojo
them eyes are like plates!!!!!

>>2643713
use perspective.

>>2643958
i'm getting the feeling i need to use more perspective.

>>2643962
you dont have any perspective at all in the image. would recommend looking up how to do it.

side views of anything are general not appealing

>>2643981
Dayum that's nice.

Blog?

>>2643988
its feng zhu iirc

>>2643981
Shiiiiiit son, drawings like these is what makes me lose hope on myself.

>>2643981
okay so apart from the perspective, what other critique can I get here because so far all I've gotten is "Use perspective"

Frankly, I'm amazed you bothered to tell me to use perspective on a purposefully 2D image, can't critique me for other things like lines or my rendering? please feel free. I'd really enjoy some other critique because honestly drawing on a computer is like trying to learn how to draw again and I'm not nearly as good as I am on paper with a pencil.

Womenz out in the wild. A lot of black tanktops out here for some reason.

>>2644032
>purposefully 2D

I'm hoping by that you mean side profiles like in concept art?

>>2644055
yes.

Drawing some backs tonight.

>>2644042
Not gonna lie, that perfect mix of straight lines and curves makes me hard.

Sting from lotr. Sorry that it sucks i am a complete amateur

>>2644106
My work here is done

>>2643897
yeah you're right, i'll fix that
don't have one sorry

>>2644057
>my comfort zone

stop wasting time

>>2643543
blog?
>>2643924
did you make that?

Tried designing a character. Failed but at least it looks ok.

>>2644315
having her face in the dead center and perfectly horizontal/vertical is not very interesting, looks uncanny/out of place even. otherwise it's pretty good.

>>2644323
I did a few hairstyles on a what should have been placeholder face, but then decided to be lazy and drew the rest on aforementioned sketch.

I know, it's no excuse, but if it makes it better, I'm currently working on more concepts that hopefully won't be as shit.

>>2644330
give her face a goddamn angle not a new haircut, you'll see yourself that it'll make it a lot better.

>>2644315
If you know of any CA openings on projects about French transvestite wizards running a cabaret, you should apply.

>>2644337
lol

Well I was going for French and wizzard, not so much for tranny.

>>2644330

>>2644348
Thanks for the feedback.

>>2644358
yeah no, take that feedback with a grain of salt, women do have large jaws too, he just turned your stuff to anime shit. Give her a neck that isn't one of a bodybuilder, reduce her mouth, tweek her expression, some life in the eyes and you're good to go.

Do not approach anime shit.

>>2644390
>anime shit

>>2644390
>women do have large jaws too

Yet women with smaller jaws don't exist and are "anime shit"? Are you retarded?

>>2643750
How long have you been drawing?

>>2644416
>women do have large jaws too
>too

If you had a shred of grey matter to think with you would know that "too" implies multiplicity. The original is anatomically correct and is the artists preference so why change it ? not only reducing the size of her face but also widening her eyes ? why ? probably because hurr women face must slenderer durr and it's completely ruining the proportions.

Fuck you're making me sound like one of those SJW retards, just go back to your moe shit and stop projecting your silly preferences on other people's decisions.

>>2644196

FUCK YOU NOSE

>>2644436
>>2644390
Go back to the beginner thread.

>>2644449
Wow, harsh.

Got really frustrated with one bigger painting and reused the fabric. I tried some chinese approach with tons of different greys, but only 12hrs in. There's so much to do, but now I need a break.

Golem skeleton.

have some real art here fuckboys

.:

>>2644538
The background looks really pretty. Really take your time with those lily pads and make sure they have the proper perspective, and actually sit on the water. They have potential to be really distracting if you don't get that right.

I love the colors too. Very calming.

>>2644607

>>2644541
looks good man

>>2644541
That's really cool for some reason.
What moves the bones though.

>>2644716
It has a heart (drum) and lungs (bellows) that fuel it, the power is supplied by a trapped spirit.

>>2644727
I've honestly never seen that sort of golem construction design with musical instruments as organs.

Really nice.

how's it look

>>2644763
>>2641827

>>2644763
>>2642388

u go here!

i am most definitely not a beginner. i've been drawing for years.

>>2644801
Just because you've been drawing for years doesn't mean you draw well.

>>2644801
its your loss, not mine!

How's my monkey?

so how is it that everyone around me says i draw good, but once i come here, people tell me it's bad?

>>2644815
they don't want to hurt your feelings. if you can't see how bad you really are, you might want to rethink what "art" is. I don't want to discourage you, but it is very easy to see how much you lack in understanding of tonal values, construction, anatomy, linework, etc.. the list could go on. please, take some time and look at the sticky, find an artbook thread, look up proko and or sycra(yes he as some good tutorials) on youtube, go to drawabox.com. it's really up to you whether my advice here is taken seriously!

>>2644813
chimps are nOT MONKEYS YOU FUCKING IMBECILE!!!!

>>2644813
its pretty good, are you using mspaint.exe!

>>2643666
>begginer thread

>>2644847
Actually used Photoshop for rendering. If you're wondering, I did the linework on paper and scanned it.

>>2644842
How's my chimp then?

>>2644541
this is really fucking good man. really first time Im not feeling guilty for going on ic. original and supercool

>>2644911
Is it wrong that I feel bad for thinking that this anon is cool?
Is this what /ic/ has done to me? Did it lower my expectations and my self confidence so much that I refuse to appreciate someones art?

>>2643320
>>2643375
Thanks. :)

Here's a study.
I don't think I can render accurately, yet

>>2643842
do yourself a favor and learn to do strait lines without a ruler its easier than it sounds just takes some practice. im not saying rulers aren't necessary and good but for short lines like that, it pays off heaps to be able to just make the lines without thinking about it.

>>2644847
spray paint tool?? ohh, well then, its not that good.

if it was MSpaint.exe that would be pretty good (just cause the time it would take to make this).

5 hours 18x24 charcoal and conte from live model

Im proud of this one overall but i feel like its not quite done. Should i leave the far shoe unrendered? Should i darken the background? What are the weakest points? What would you say is the focal point?

Also, how translatable do you guys feel tradish skills are over to digital? Because im starting to tire from the grind. I feel like digital might be 5x faster.

>>2645128
i desperately tried but i really need one.
OH WELL. Guess animu and western cartoonish character will be my thing!
wakemeup.sfw

>>2645180
well, what was your focal point for the drawing, were you going in trying to get better at a specific thing?

Plien air watercolor

>>2645180
Shading on the deltoid is a bit awkward, I'd say it shouldn't be hard edged.

The outlines around the arm/neck holes of the shirt. Since the cast shadow on the shoulder indicates that this fabric is loose, I don't think the self-shadow on it would be very visible. These outlines should be thinner and lighter, and there shouldn't be one on the left arm hole at all from that viewing angle.

I like that the right shoe has subtler values, but I'd add some angles on it as it's all curves right now.

Don't know much about traditional but aside from the few weirdnesses I mentioned I really dig your rendering style.

Digital should be easy to pick up if you know traditional. The only thing that changes is rendering techniques, but all the other knowledge you already have won't magically disappear. Give it a try and see if you can get used to it after a month or two.

I spent about 6 hours on this apple study in oil

>>2644923
Feels like you're shading with black, try adding more saturation to your darks (really obvious in the shirt's shadows with are missing that red/purple, and on the skin around the puss)

dicking around

>>2645214
>>2645207
.... please stop

>>2645193
I guess i was trying to get better at creating a focal point. Its supposed to be the face.

>>2645208
Thanks for the crit. The outlines on the sleeves and collar are actually hems that match her stripe. I guess i didnt do a very good job of describing that.

>>2645257
Whats your deal. The guy isnt doing a bad job. He's actually got some promise.

Working traditional is always admirable and more difficult so give him a break.

>>2645259
....??? what?

>>2643866
could you give me a link to your blog pls?

>>2642666
>>2642668
woah i really like those lines dude,
do you have a blog?

>>2645262
???WHAT????

>>2645252

>>2645285
i really like this

>>2645284
... anon

Heres a character portrait I did earlier this week. Still don't know how I feel about his face and the position I put the guy on the right in.
And don't mind the edgy filename

>>2645353
If you shade that I'm sure I'll pop out pretty good

>>2645207
Nice, has a rather nostalgic feel. Why does the roof not meet with the side of the building? Is that just an architectural quirk?

>>2644436
>Women with small jaws are automatically "anime shit"
>Tries to call someone else dumb

Get over the complex you have.

Did some practice before I came back to this piece. Feeling more comfortable with the females design, just trying some things in broadstrokes and trying to get away from the habit of taking too much time and creating too many layers as a safety net.

In the words of Bill Bur, it's about having the balls to fuck it up. Been really trying to apply that to my painting.

I'm just waiting for that one smarmy cunt that replies to everyone's post to send them to the beginner thread.

I'm finally getting somewhere with this

I plan on doing something different with the knight in front, that spear thing is not super great. And the big guys cape I just thought would be better if it curved back into the picture.

>>2644923
to add to >>2645215
In general all of your colors are too desaturated and there isn't a lot of variation in saturation. Some areas should be more saturated, such as the darks, some highlights can be quite grey in contrast. Experiment with saturation and de saturation and also try this:

>>2645448

Are you the goy that was posting all those thumbnails trying to get a good fit?

>>2645452
I think I'm always that guy

I recently got a tablet and for the first time started fool around with digital art while focusing more on coloring for once (most of my traditional images were in mainly black and white). So heres some generic ass orcs, I started with the one on the right and then a friend gave me some tips for shading and color for the one on the left.

working on painting in perspective atm. nothing too serious

>>2644815
Some loomis will fix those fucked up faces in no time, quit bitching and start pushing yourself. You can do it anon.

>>2645190
I spent an hour today drawing lines from one dot to another with a pen and I was already seeing improvement. Give it a shot!

>>2645372
/beg/

>>2645448
mind if i ask how large you work?

>>2645488
Wow I'm going to take this advise to heart man

>>2645524
boy...

Well I made this one tonight before I go to bed. I'm probably going to have to do some more shading in places and the background.
Is this even that decent?

>>2645529
You were already told once. Was it necessary to post another one?

Read the sticky, and hit up the beginner thread instead. You'll get much better crits.

>>2645541
Its just a draw thread man calm down with the warnings unless your a mod

>>2645529
It's not even close to decent.
It's absolutely horrible my dude, hit up the beginner threads and start stuying

>>2645556
Jesus man all I here is go to the beginner thread but never hear what I need to study on. Yeah so thanks for the help too

>>2645561
>wanting everything spoonfed
sticky

>>2645561
heres what you do cuntface
Look up art that you really like
That doesnt look like complete dog shit (and that is visibly better than yours)
Fucking look at it, and ask yourself why its better than your shit.

Study that shit, then imitate it by all means (if the face still ends up looking like cancer after 20 attempts just fucking trace it) and use the fundamentals to fill in the gaps. This should help you internalise aesthetics, drawing, and composition - but itd depend on who youre copying, and how bad they are.

>>2645568
Goddamn dude calm down, for the love of God there's plenty of others ppl drawings here to shit on.

I'll follow most of what you said but I don't copy any of my "work" from others nor do i trace, which isn't a good habit to have. I already posted this in the /beg/ thread so if you want to follow me there and shit on it your welcomed to.

Thanks for the help thread guess I'm officially kicked out

>>2645572
???
Are you fucking daft?
Im telling you to trace instead because your shit looks trash

decided to take a little time and took this practice a little further by going from greyscale to color.

>>2645372
lolx

>>2645572
Not the same anon but tracing right now isn't a bad thing. Your fundamentals aren't good enough for you to draw well from imagination. You clearly don't have any understanding of how a face is constructed and WHY, or any understanding of anatomy. Looking at other art is really useful because if you put yours side by side to "top tier", you'll see where you fucked up. Overall if you want to get better, you need to understand why your art isn't good.
For starters:
Line quality needs improvement: too much scratching. And for the love of god stop going over a line multiple times.
Shading: There is no light source. You are generically shading how you think it should look rather than how faces actually form.
Proportion: This doesn't look like a person. Looks like a canine that went on a 3 year motorcycle ride. Stop using symbolized facial features and look at a real person. And I mean REALLY look at them.

>>2645591
any opinions would be good. i'm gonna do new ones and leave this as is

I'm not really sure about that monster's design, but I think I'm done.

>>2645608
Maybe I should have listed it as fantasy when I first posted, that character isn't suppose to come off looking human, more of a bridge between man and monster. I thought someone would pick up on that fact. And obviously his hair is just some wacky fantasy style as well.
Cause even those eyebrows and cheeks are surely not how humans look. Plus he has cat or owl eyes rather than human's. The original design was suppose to make him look semi featureless, pale, and demonic. And he looks more like a dog then I might add that to his character background now.
But mixing realism and fantasy facial features was hard and I guess that's what threw everyone off guess I'm sorry about that, other than it being utter crap. Probably wasn't a good idea posting this one.
I'll start studying what you told me to do, especially my lines even tho that will be a hard thing to break.

>>2645734

The secret to having people pick up on intentional things is to have your fundamentals nailed down. With proper construction and values it would be clear to see that it's a man/monster because it could be nothing else. Do you see what I'm saying? Your flaws leave too much room for interpretation. Another example is when people draw a face or body poorly and someone crits a certain part and the artist gets defensive with a response like "wow do you even know what you are talking about? That was on purpose, people really do have legs this long/weird noses/big ears etc etc. That is all very true but there's no way to tell if you are purposely accounting for human variation or not if everything else looks like shit.

>>2645750
That did come off as a shitty excuse tbqh, but I just realized I should have at least mentioned it wasn't a realistic drawing of someone I just feel like it help start this shit storm. And I understand what your saying anon I made a fatal flaw with it in every aspect.
I'm not even sure if I'm going to even try to finish now tbqh, might just throw the whole thing away even tho I didn't finish it and try another one some other time. But come on this is /ic/ you shouldn't be using shit to describe bad work there are better words out there.

>>2645766
>this is /ic/
Not sure what else you expected from 4chan.
Being interested in art means you need to be open to all crits, even if it's something you don't like. Try not to defend your work so much and instead just recognize what others see in your work and how it comes across. That's your basis for where you need to start improving and build it off from there.

>>2645766
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMC0Cx3Uk84

While you're still here anon, learn how to control a pencil while you're still in the early stages, I'm learning too late and it's setting me back. Try sketching and shading with the overhand grip shown in the video and challenge yourself by not allowing your hand to rest on the paper/table while using tripod grip. I think both of these things will improve your messy lines and shading. Also try some gesture drawing:

http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/

>>2645572
You over reacted to some harsh criticism.

>Go to beginner thread
It's for beginners, practicing anatomy/funamentals. You can figure this out for yourself.

>copying "work"

You don't understand. Look at an artist you admire and try to figure out how they do what they do. You don't have to copy their subject matter or lighting etc, but study art like you would study a book for a research paper.

Copying is a good habit to form when you don't have any fundamental knowlege whatsoever as>>2645608 said. you simply have no good understanding of any aspect you tried to draw in your picture. You can't get knowlege out of thin air, you have to look to sources of information and aside from "how to" books, fellow artists are your best bet.

And here's a pro tip, don't flip out when someone says what you don't want to hear. It's hard, but also keep in mind that words on the internet sound harsher than they are. Take the criticism, ignore the negativity (especially when you're imagining it)

>>2645524
is good advice

Whats wrong with her eyes? Why does this look almost good but not?

work in progress

>>2646026
fuq that looks nice. how did you achieve that nice lighting on the cathedral? It almost looks like a 3d render

>>2646026
you´re a hippie. Sweet trip.

>>2646021
the back of her head. Looks like somthing wants to come out. fix it, then is quite ok.

>>2645572
Good riddance

>>2644541
looks like it's going to break from a kick of my grandma. Try to thicken those bars a little more.

yeah

>>2646138
neat

Are these figure drawings better than my old ones?

OLD ONES
>>2642593 →

I've been going through a Vilppu video on gesture, and I took the time to act the poses and study them in each one of these.

It took a long time, but I'm starting to see how you can do these in 30 seconds with practice.

Also the before and after Vilppu writings on these is before and after I compared my gesture to Vilppu's.

>>2646178
I'm a little bit scared that I'm putting so much line down that when I'm seeing Vilppu put down the same lines I might be re-affirming an incorrect thought and misleading myself.

Here are the reference photos.

>>2645524
You're not thinking in 3D.
You're fucking up big time.

You need to go do draw-a-box.

>>2645731
Cool

>>2644042
Ten and five minute figures from the session

>>2646590

Why was the model presenting herself to you?

>>2646607
nice meme

>>2646607
I wasn't complaining

>>2646590
Really digging your lines

>>2646687
Thanks anon

>>2646633

danx

had a random itch to draw some animals, thus random felines, i'll try out more animals when I wake up.

>>2643899
thx, it's cool that you recognized the style for that one.

>>2643911
yeah, I'm in that place where I can't decide between a realistic nose or a stylization one, can do both but can't choose.

>>2645269
here ya go, didn't update in a long time though.
http://4xiszero.tumblr.com/

>>2646026
damn that's pretty sweet to the eyes. Maybe try to give those jet propulsors Heat deformations instead of plain trails. Keep it up.

Kids are hard

>>2646789

LIKE I GIVE A FUCK

>>2646795

so am I

>>2646798
Get the fuck outta here

Glaring mistakes before i move forward?

>>2646795
youre like a half off firez

mr digiorno

Painted this with no reference, using this guide on color layers: http://helgesonart.blogspot.ch/2014/08/a-formula-step-by-step.. html

>>2647090

Use a reference, don't draw from imagination until you nail the basics

>>2646795
>>2646795
draw her feet plz

>>2647370
>Don't draw from imagination until you

Use it or lose it.
If you're not challenging your mind with imaginative drawing as you progress with whatever fundamental you practice, you're gonna have a hard time later.

>>2645215
>>2645450
Sorry for the latye reply. I've been a bit busy.
Thanks for that resource