/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>"your so talented"
as if i did no work to get to the level im at, like it was given to me by god or some shit.
i work hard and people think i tripped over into getting this way.

fucking annoying.
and then when they see how much i charge for a work they question me about it
>'but anon, its art work you enjoy doing? how could you charge this much? i dont charge that much to play golf? in fact i pay to play golf hahah"
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2625735
>"i dont charge that much to play golf? in fact i pay to play golf hahah"
"THAT'S BECAUSE YOU SUCK AT GOLF, BITCH!"

>>2625750
>"THAT'S BECAUSE YOU SUCK AT GOLF, BITCH!"
indeed, when you get gud, ppl pay to watch you play

>"Is that anime"

who do you think I am

>>2625718
The only thing I hate is silence.

>Wow, you can draw? Can you draw naruto/goku/anime?
What am I suposed to answer?

>>2625828
flash me

>>2625832
lel

>Can you draw chibi

>>2625718
>read Loomis
>read Hogarth
>read Bridgman

People always say that, and I'm like, "but Im not going for style or realism. I just want to make up the shapes, lighting, and anatomy"

>>2625824
yea thats the worst.

>>2625735
>getting butthurt because someone calls you talented

Talented doesn't mean it was unearned. Jesus Christ. Be more autistic.

>>2625999
Except it does mean it's unearned, natural talent by definition is an innate gift, inherently unearned, read a dictionary.

when all someone has to say about my work is

>/beginner thread/

even though id amn well know i dont belong in the beginner thread

>>2625999
>being this wrong.
Learn what words mean before you use them in public.

>You don't take your time when drawing.

>>2626012
>THEY ARE CALLED GESTURES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2626004
>needing to read a dictionary to understand idioms and colloquialisms
Just further proving you are either an autist or a non-native speaker

>>2626014
except OP was obviously being literal.
referring to the word "talented" as a key point.
thus we are replying in tune with the literal sense of the word, and the literal definition.
just because you wish to use colloquialisms does not mean the rest of us are.

>>2625735
>your so talented
>your
Anyway, how much do you charge?

>>2626010
>I've gotten a million compliments on my art today!
Hurr durr!! Reeeeee! That's literally impossible!!! Read a dictionary! One million?! Not possible! Reeee!!

You sound like an autistic pedant. People use words without regard for their formal meaning, sperglord.
If someone calls you talented they are just being nice. They aren't suggesting you don't work hard.

Holy shit. I can't believe this is even a discussion. Are you 12? Do you interact with humans IRL?

>>2626019
>9

>People don't use word cuz what dey mean

Kill your self fag

>>2625735
You're*

>>2625999
>>2626014
>>2626019
>getting this butthurt he can't read a dictionary
>keeps calling others autistic when he was the autist all along

>>2625828

For (insert arbitrarily amount of currency) I'll draw anything you want.

>>2626040
>your
>self

>>2626066
kill yore self

when artists put themselves down: "my shitty art", "random doodle crap", etc.

why do people do this? don't be so insecure you guys.

>>2626068
Yeah I see that quite a bit. Modesty is fine and being critical of yourself can be healthy but some when people are constantly self-deprecating themselves it's somewhat pathetic, they take the "don't get full of yourself" idea but go too extreme.

>>2626071
It's called low selfesteem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oneyb2mB-1M
> What are some comments you hate hearing from your peers?
> What are some comments you hate hearing from your relatives / friends
> Friends
If only...

> You're shit
> Why do you even bother, you just have no Talent.
> You need Talent to be good at drawing.

Just fucking let me practice, no fucking Artist started good.
Fucking hate these types of people, they act like i would fucking care about what they say.

>>2625824
>mfw I'm that silent guy
I have lots to say actually, you people just dont ask me so why should I talk?

people who keep talking about specific "muh styles" while i just want to get good at realism.

>>2625718
When people see something you've done and are praising it, and you want to show them it's not all good stuff so you pull out your sketchbook and they say "oh.. this isn't that good at all" like they were wrong about you lol.

you're missing my point, nigga I was trying to show you there's more to it than just the one finished piece you saw.

>>2625718
>ANON MAKE HER BOOBIES BIGGER

When people see only one drawing you've made and assume everything you draw has the same style and subject matter

>is that a girl?
'no'

-or-

>That looks like a penis
t-thanks mom

>>2626009
>even though I damn well know I don't belong in the beginner thread

Except that most of the time people say this, they actually do belong there, too many delusional faggots.

>>2625718
>Show artwork
>Wow anon thats incredible!
>Its really shit

All my friends do this, my parents do this, my brother does this, my fucking dog wags his tail.

It just makes me want to kill myself even more.

Is it mean to not tell someone they aren't shit when everyone else says they are or would I be doing that friend a disservice?

>>2627192
only crit a friend with constructive feedback or else you'd just be damaging him to where he'd want to give up

>>2626019
Whoa chill man. Generally it feels a bit insulting to say that an artist just has "talent." There were years of hard work that went into getting this "talent." When someone compliments you that way, it almost feels like a backhanded compliment. Most of the time, artists will understand that the person is trying to be nice and just take the compliment. That doesn't make it any less annoying though.

The artists that I've noticed trying to defend the use of "talent" (you) generally don't have the skills to be called talented in the first place. I suppose you may know the feeling in a couple years when you git gud. Sry m8

>HOW DO YOU DO THAT?!

And I'm not even that good to begin with. I don't "hate it", but it's always awkward.

>What is that?
Instead of directly asking try to fucking understand my drawing.

>>2627221
Are you me? ARE YOU FUCKING ME?

>>2627256
>expecting people to understand shit artwork

If they can't understand it then you've failed you moron. Not gonna make it.

>>2625718
>"It's great. You're better than I am"
I can fucking walk better than Steven Hawking, but I'm a hell of a far way from being an athlete. I don't care about your compliments if your going to degrade your opinion.

>>2627381

How honestly do you respond to this without coming off as rude? It happens a lot to me.

> "I used to love drawing!"
> "I used to draw too when I was a kid haha"
> "I wish I kept going I could be good by now haha"

Am I supposed to give a fuck? Why do people always want to make everything about themselves? Fucking shitters I swear

>>2627256
This reminds me of that time I traced 5-6 strokes from a gorilla picture with a pen and sketched the rest in pencil all shaded n'shit and my father goes "what's this?" when it was clear

This entire thread sheds some light on why most artists are hypersensitive assholes.

>>2627381
>>2627391
i was sketching at the train station last week, and i got talking to this pink haired tumblr looking chick. she said "i draw a bit too, but it's really bad and only anime". i said not all anime is bad but she wouldn't let down about how bad her drawings are and mine were so much better. i just wanted to melt into the floor

>>2627256
i used to get really happy when someone could just identify what it was that i drew. i still have a fear in the back of my mind of someone seeing a drawing i've spent a lot of time on and them saying "what is it?"

>>2627391
I try to politely refuse their compliments only for them to reinforce with more compliments before I just say thank you begrudgingly and then they compliment me more

>>2626009
please be b8. if not, read up about dunning kruger faggot

80% of posts on /ic

>>2627480
you should have just unzipped and let the poor girl suck you off.

>>2627189
>Draw me!

>>2625735
This is such a cringe-worthy response. You basically turn something that's a compliment (you're so talented, anon!) into a self-righteous tirade about what a hard worker you are, even though they never implied you didn't practice. If you were smart/remotely socially competent you'd realize "talent" means you basically have mysterious powers that normies will admire you for. Then when you tell normies what kind of hours you're putting on they'll be blown away that you have both talent and discipline, another mysterious power.

>>2625718

"It's nice. The colors are epic. I gotta say man, I like it, I like it a lot."

>>2625718
>" HEY DRAW ME!"

>>2627542
this. Normal people saying "you're so talented" should be taken as "you're so skilled" because that's basically what they're saying, its just more common to say talented. They don't understand the hard work it takes, they're just trying to acknowledge you and compliment you. Just say thank you.

>>2627535
dam right /b/ro xD

>>2627542
>>2627582
basically, normalfags are retards

>>2627607
basically, you're just an idiot

>>2627609
basically, you're a normalfag

>>2627607
Yes, news at 11

>>2627615
Yeah, I'm a normalfag for not being a fucking autist. You got me.

>>2627617
basically, you're a retard

>>2627570
whats up with that?

>>2625718
recently a friend mocked me because i said i was gonna start studying art fundamentals seriously and he thinks we already are because we're in a graphic design program

also
>still better than 99.9776745% of ic ;^)

>>2627607
to us they are, yes. But some of them probably think you're retarded for not knowing about septic waste management or some shit, its all relative.

>>2627391
"aw, don't say that. if you practice a lot you can get really good, i'm only good because i have no social life and spend all of my time drawing" or something similar.
idk i guess it depends on your gender, how kind you want to sound, and how fake you want to sound.

>>2627640
And that's why humans talk, they learn their understanding of a word is incorrect, and we learn about septic waste management or whatever tidbit of knowledge they wish to impart, nice conversations happen, and society grows slightly more intelligent.

Otherwise, words will continue to go the way of the "literally" because of the perpetuation of ignorance.

>>2627542
then why would they not just say" wow you are so skilled"
they are normies not fucking idiots.
they know what each word means.
they really just lean on the word "tallented" because they dont want to face the music that is that they spent their entire lives doing nothing and thus just lable everyone who has as "talented" because getting good is a gift from god, not possibly in their own control, which it always has totally been.

calling someone else talented is just a way to ease the pain one feels at their own failures.

plus, by calling someone an idiot, does not make you smart.

>>2626091
it's called fishing for compliments by calling your average work 'below average'

>>2627891
Yup

>>2627891
"you're very skilled, anon. anyone could be that good though, you're just willing to waste most of your time actually getting good at this lol"

is that better?

what a seriously ridiculous thing to be triggered by. being offended by the talent-meme, congrats, the meme got to you and you're now a bigger pleb than before. a meme-spouting pleb.

>>2627927
>"you're very skilled, anon. anyone could be that good though, you're just willing to waste most of your time actually getting good at this lol"
At least they're saying what they're really thinking, then you have a good reason to tell them to fuck off.

"that's so weird you should be drawing ___ instead"

>>2627927
>people dont tell you that you're talented enough to make you mad.
must be shit

>>2627931
they might not say it that clearly, you moron. you porved my point by getting offended by the statement though, so you did your job.

>>2627936
I'm supposed to be offended by this, but I'm not cause you're a child.

>>2627936
my thoughts exact

>>2627927
this

>>2627927
>>2627946
>>2627949
unskilled fags detected :^)

>>2627951
you're still a child.

>>2627946
>>2628074
>you're a child
t. child

>>2628075
I know you are, but what am I?

>>2628077
lol

>>2625718
ITT: being offended by the talent-meme has become a meme.

>>2628081
>being offended by the meme of being offended by the talent-meme is a meme*

>>2628084
>being a child on the internet-meme

>>2628087
>>being a child on the internet-meme

I'm tired of the "artists" who are vocal about wanting to fuck kids and wish they would suicide by cop.

>>2628408
>wanting to fuck kids
literally?

>learn to take criticism
*grabs nuts*
Fuck off you punters, when was the last time you heard a successful person say "I sure am glad of all the times I was criticized and bent over backwards to appease others"? Never, that's fucking when. Real raw niggas like me get there doing what we do. Life isn't about taking criticism, it's about ignoring it.

>"I'll never be as good as you... I should probably just stop drawing altogether..."

You know what? Fucking FINE. Quit, and stop trying to make me feel bad for working harder than your lazy fucking depressive ass.

>Hey can you draw _______ in this other artist's style? I can pay.
Nahhhh, fuck clean off. Pay the other artist to draw what you want. You're only coming to me because you think you can somehow get the same product for cheaper, and I'm not down with that shit. And I'm definitely not down on taking commissions that emulate the style of artists who are still working.

And yeah, this kind of shit actually does come from peers. Artists commissioning artists to draw like other artists. Repulsive practice, if you ask me. By all means, study other artists, but if you can emulate? Don't do it for money (unless the artist you're emulating is dead, then whatever).

When you're in a competition or a gallery and you tell everyone, then they ask to see your stuff.

Number one response is:
>You shouldn't submit that, put [insert my idea] instead!

Every. Fucking. Time.

>>2628417

>>2626068
>>2626071
>Saying this on /ic/ of all art related places

It's a defence-mechanism.

>When they Imply you shouldn't charge a decent price because you enjoy Art.
That Drives me Insane.

>>2627443
Da.

>>2625997
NGMI.

Sometimes at family events I show my drawings and then dicussions like this start

>"wow why is X so good at drawing?"
>"Oh you know, X was born with that talent! People like us could never do that"

yes sure, I'm some fucking magician

>>2627577
I hate this so much, yes.

>>2625798
>>2625828
>"Draw anime"

Why?

>>2630251
>I'm the only one that knows what hard work is
fuck off, you condescending little shit.

>>2630476
???

>>2630479
This guy >>2630476 keeps getting assmad whenever "talent" is mentioned

>>2630479
>>2630485
yeah, I'm very trigger happy on the talent issue. I'm trying to control myself tho.

>>2626068
>being a self critic
>naive 'muh style' faggot who's unaware that their work is shit
Pick one

>>2625718
>when i ask someone to critique something and they say it's good/great/whatever
helpful

>>2625824
Me too. I get really paranoid

>>2625718
"It's really good!"

>>2626091
>>2627894
Honestly some artists are just too fucked in the head to stop their anxieties about life seeping into art (and/or other things). So critical thinking becomes unnecessarily critical, not "fishing for compliments". However, that fishing thing does happen a lot with teenagers & younger artists just starting out. Hopefully most will be able to grow out of it when they are more mature.

Case-to-case of course, but if the overly self-critical thing still happens many years into an artist's career, it is probably a mental health thing. Trying to tell these types of artists to stop that shit (no matter how nice or harsh) will cause an opposite effect. It's something they just have to get over on their own. It can never happen in some cases due to whomever being too stuck in their mental state, either from a lack of trying or not getting the right kind of help, which is a shame.

>>2631118
.

>>2628476
>Hey can you draw _______ in this other artist's style? I can pay.
I make a killing doing this

I think a lot of comments are made with good intentions ("You're so talented!" for example). I really can't think of a good intention for people trying to get free art, though, so that's the one that annoys me. From my experience, it's never been friends who have tried to get free art, either. It's always some random person you added on Facebook or that broke family member you rarely talk to anyway or like your friend's roommate or something. People I don't even have a personal obligation to thinking they're worth taking time away from a paying gig basically.

I can appreciate a good trade offer, though. I drew an acquaintance's girlfriend for him, and in exchange, he took my graduation photos (and they actually turned out really great, too).

>>2625718
"It looks like Sonic!"

I'M NOT EVEN TRYING

>Most my prof are good artists.
>It's the end of the semester.
>Ask the program coordinator what I can do do improve.
>He flips though my sketchbook as I sweat bricks.
>"Keep doing what you're doing."
>Continue asking the rest.
>"What did Xyz say?"
>"Yup, that's what I was going to say"
>This continues with the rest of them.

That's no what I wanted to hear, man! I loved and hated those profs. They never give you straight up answers, only slightly nudging you, but god damn do I remember all my "Ah ha" moments.

Sure, its nice to know I was doing something right, but I had no Idea what was doing right.

>>2631237
The eyes & body structure are rather reminiscent of some modern Sonic characters. Also there's a fuckton of Sonic deviantautists around the internet, so there's that too.

>>2631251
they can't really give you a more detailed answer than that, if they're good they know that there's no right or wrong way to pursue art. It's all personal and relative, you just have to keep going.

>>2627577
Does this seriously bug people? I'd be flattered if someone thought my art was good enough that they wanted me to draw them.

>>2631272
I used to be where you are. One day, you'll be where I am, and at first, it will be awesome and flattering. Then, it will be very annoying. I think it's sort of like a customer making a joke about an item being free since there's no price tag on it. It was only cute the first couple of times.

>>2626068
I only do that if I'm legitimately disappointed with a drawing but I still want to post something.

>>2627221

>How long did it take you to learn that?

33 years and counting.

>>2631272
The problem is, when you say, "Sure, PAY me." everybody gets real awkward.

>Why is she/he naked?

>>2626010
>OR SKILL
I'm not even the person you replied

>>2627189
Really? It's the difference for me. Everyone is overly critical since I draw digital.
"Oh you did it on a computer? What part did you actually draw?"

I think the worst comment though is "That's so X"

I get "That's so Dark Souls" a lot since I draw somewhat dark medieval stuff.
I did that even before DS was a thing you drooling retards!

>>2626010
>he thinks something that is given by birth is earned
learn what the word "natural" means, not even the person you replied to

You draw alot of females...are you a lesbian?

>>2628417
This.

You should learn use your fucking brains instead of relying on others.

This is especially true since 99% of people are completely fucking retarded. If you're not retarded yourself you wouldn't want them having their way with your work.

>>2631644
who are you replying to?

>>2632071
your mom

>>2629264
This.

The second anyone here has a hint of confidence/self-esteem, /ic/ goes ballistic.

Not that there's anything wrong with good helpful critiques, but it's hilarious how much more blunt people get when critiquing someone who isn't a quivering mess.

"To be brutally honest anon; you're absolute fucking shit.

Set down the tablet and grab yourself some sketch paper, pencils, and cheap felt tip pens.
Go to /ic/
Do some fucking Loomis.
Do DrawABox
Go to the /trash/ drawthread and read the "getting started" wiki
Do all that for a few months, then go back to digital once you've got the basics of sketching and construction down.

Making fun little doodles is all well and good, but don't post them here, nor do they deserve a signature."

>>2632238
>/trash/ drawthread
Never thought about that.

>>2627189
I know that feeling, it's an absolutely shitty feeling.

>>2632238
Sounds like good advice

>>2631644
London?

>draw a random person
>"who is that?"
Goddammit I hate that question. Especially when they won't take the answer "it's just a random person I drew"

slightly unrelated but
>tfw new art teacher judges based on creativity and not skill

>>2625718

>All digital art is made by just pushing a button, because that's how computers work.

>>2625718
>Wow, that's really great

>>2631237
Is mostly because the eyes and hands size.

>>2627640
>talking as if artists are a better species than normalfags
>it doesn't matter
>we all die in the end

>I like it
>but what does it mean

>>2636194
why would you even care of what someone THAT retarded might have to say lol

"can you draw me?"

>>2626068
humble brag and a defence mechanism all in one. If people disagree, then they're modest and validated at the same time. If people agree that it's shit they can rationalize that they didn't really try or that it was just practice or it wasn't that hard etc. etc. Bullshit beta weasel tactics to fish for validation.

>>2632238
sounds like someone's still fucking mad and didn't listen to sound advice.

Two words:

"Gesture Battle"

>>2638094
kek'd

>>2638094

you makin' fun of me?

>>2626068
I do this... because its true ;-; its nowhere near the level I want.

>>2627637
Do people not realise kn those courses that drawing is an actual fucking useful skill? I swear every single assignment I see in those classes is lacking in literally every design element we have leadnt through the course plus they draw like a T ReX

>>2630251
Just say "yes none of you could ever reach this level of existence now bow before your superior liform mortal!"

>>2635637
I cannot fucking stand that, it happens to me literally all the time. Like, why do people ask this in the first place? Do they think I'm creeping or something and are more interested in that dramu instead of my actual drawing?

I don't appreciate being called disgusting, sick, etc for drawing loli anime characters.
>people draw male impreg, pony porn, pokemon bestiality, sonic scat porn, inflation porn, steven universe, etc but for some reason i'm the sick fuck for drawing lolis.

>>2639160
Ask them why they care. It makes no sense to give a shit over something that is literally affecting no one. Push their beliefs. If their entire concern is that you MIGHT harm a child, inform them that you also MIGHT stab them or poison them - and that it's the action that should be punished, not the potential. Drill them. Keep drilling them.

And I don't even like loli, either. I'm just sick of people assuming that we should ostracize for potential rather than commitment.

>>2639030
Isn't it obvious Ricky?

>>2626068
I used to do this, then I stopped describing my art at all. I want people to see it so they can critique it and enjoy what they can, but that doesn't mean I feel proud of or satisfied with what I made.

>>2639160
>>2639164
You could just post in /aco/ and save everyone the headache.

>>2639169

>>2639160
to be fair, cub art has become taboo in the furry world.

>>2639173
/aco/ doesnt allow loli characters.

>>2639160
>wahh people are saying I'm weird for being a pedo

>>2625999
it's not about the empy comment it's about what's implied behind it you piece of fucking shit

>>2639188
Global Rule #3
You shouldn't be posting loli anywhere on 4chan

>>2626110
Keep going, anon, don't let anyone get you down. Its not all about skill, character is important,.too and you need to be resilient if you ever hope to make it. Good luck and maybe you should get some real critiques instead of talking to assholes.

Have any of you lads ever considered it might not be such a great idea to show your art to non-artists while you're studying? While you're practicing, you should be looking to better artists for critiques so that you can surpass them. When marketing your works is the only time you should be showing non-artists and those should only be finished or attractive works in progress.

"You're bad at art"

>>2639252
oh fuck you.

>>2639274
>not using that blatant insult to spark a fire inside of you to get strong fundamentals and prove them wrong while you work on AAA titles and they flip burgers and pay child support and dudeweed lmao while you make six figures and live in a mansion and own a lambo that goes 5,000 mph

>>2625718
>"can you teach me how to draw?"
>when people hover over me as i work and actively comment on what i'm doing
and an added mini-storytime
>be me in 8th grade
>post most of my art on facebook
>one day, friend's mom messages me asking if i could paint something for her to hang up in the house and that she'll pay
>nervous since i've never painted anything for anyone but she's a nice lady so why not
>tells me story in startling of how she had a miscarriage several years ago and wants me to paint a sleeping baby cherub to commemorate anniversary of baby's death
>mfw
>never message her back
>delete facebook a week later

>>2639273
Post your work sempai
No merc wip either

>>2639273
Then you'll be studying forever, anon. Artist believe you never stop improving and that you'll never be good.

I hate seeing comments about how a thread is for learning blah blah serious you guys no shit posting blah blah blah. But then the entire thread would go on to be about gossip. WTF? You people talk about learning but all you do is bitch and whine about other things. Get over yourself already.

I also hate commenters that are essentially navel-gazers and drone on and on about the same things. Naive, Dunning-Kuger effect, Jelly, what ever you want to call it, it's always the same. Some anon chimes in with the same clichés and then goes about creating text walls for them. Diversify your knowledge there champ, before you go on a deliberation.

>>2639279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GIwTG8V-Ko

>>2639334
That Lambo goes way faster than 5000 meters per hour tho

>>2639331
>Waaaaaa, don't discuss things I don't want to discuss

>>2639292
in startling detail**
fug

>>2639319
Here you, go, lad, baka 2bh senpai
<pic relatex
Joking aside, people that aren't artists don't understand that we artists sketch all the time and showing them an unfinished or unpresentable sketch is just asking to be insulted because they have no idea what fundamentals to pick apart. Most of them also have no appreciation for fine art as well so they won't understand something out there. You should only be looking to other artists for advice, but ultimately your own eye is the best critic because no one will be as harsh as you on yourself. Or you can just keep getting normies to shout "draw me!" at you. (Charge for your work btw)

>>2639322
Art's a journey, lad, you can be a master when you're dead, but for now and until you die, you are a student.

>>2639292
I can relate to this.

>>2639537
>we artists

You're not in a club or some fraternity. There's is nothing special about you to associate over.

Get over yourself kid

>>2639565
>We that are artists

What's so hard to understand? You're making a big deal over a little wording. I could have said that sentence without "we" and it would have still conveyed exactly what I meant, but you'd probably find something else to bitch about.

>>2639580
We know exactly what you meant. You're a hypocrite. You think your way or world view about doing art is right and you use social media to talk down at those who disagree with you.

>>2639584
You're probably putting up a tough act because you're insecure about your art. Hell, if you want to show people your unfinished and shitty sketches and exercises then be my guest.

>>2639598
>>2639584
Ladies ladies please there is enough Derek for eeeeeeeeeveryone.

>>2625718
I hate that none of you give useful fucking advice.

>>2639609

>helping the competition

>Implying I have peers

>>2639609
you're in the wrong thread fagget

>>2639160
> rattles off horrible fetishes
> nonchalantly Chuck ALL su art in with the rant
Why does everyone hate the show? For Fucks sake

バンプ

>>2626068
i usually mean it though.

>>2639171
good idea. sometimes i also take this apporach, maybe i should do it more.

>ask artist "best friend" for feedback
>"looks perfect!"
>knew my work looked like shit but couldn't place what was wrong exactly
>asked for help in hopes of having flaws be pointed out

>>2631237
eh

>>2625735

/ic/ is far too autistic about this "talent" thing.

To a lot of people "talented" begins and ends at "wow he's good at that."
It doesn't have this stupid fucking connotation about being a natural born artist who didn't practice a day in his life. Even the people who use the word talent as "natural affinity" aren't usually suggesting it's totally effortless. Nobody calling you talented is suggesting it didn't take effort to get where you are, stop being such a dipshit about it.

It's like you need someone to come up and suck your dick "oh wow I bet you practice every day that's amazing anon you're so disciplined I'm jealous of your hard-earned skill!"

>>2640684
Hear, hear!

>>2625718
claiming its nice without going into any detail. it feels like trolling.
dude clip art lmao this isnt furry porn so its not art you were better when you drew nudes

actually you know what fuck these idiots i dont even care anymore. your brain isnt capable of producing anything i´d take seriously as feedback.

>>2631399
digital art is shit though. Nothing organic about that

>>2625718
>open thread thinking about seeing hilarious normie stuff
>...
>end up knowing that most of /ic/ are bratty whiny bitches
Holy shit i really want to punch this faggot >>2625735

>>2627933
What did you draw anon?

>If I were you I'd draw allllll the time

>>2641423
What do you classify as 'digital art'?

Anything drawn on a computer? Because computers can replicate pencil drawings pretty damn well

"post wops" ugh

>>2641527
Conference in less than 5 hours...l

>>2631251
I hate this so much.
Do these people not realize how completely useless this is? Did they never experience this themselves?

>"Keep practicing"
Really? Thanks!
>"Read the sticky"
The drawing you are looking at is an exercise I did because I read the sticky
>"It looks odd/awkward/off"
If you can't even articulate what's the problem how am I supposed to get anything out of your advice?

Just give me specifics you cunts.
I realize you can't go over every single mistake I made if I show you a sketchbook, but at least point out a few of them. If I wanted this bullshit I could've just gone to reddit.

>>2625718
>Have you heard of this website called 'Deviantart', anon?
>you should post your work there

>>2644418
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7FxqsNO4-Y
luls anon ... from the heart

Whenever someone tells me I am good I start to cringe because I realize how much they lack point of reference of other artists and understandment of Fundamentals to think that I am good.

>>2626068
No, no one is putting himself down.
The 20 minute you spent sketching is random doodle fucking crap, it's just that for normies your doodle crap is something they can't draw in a day...doesn't mage it less doodle crap.

You are using the world as point of reference and all the artists out there are you comptetition, otherwise you already lost..

>>2639537
>Chromatic aberation
Why? It is not necessary here, your shitty fake sense of depth does not fool me.