/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2574006

A neet that relies on his parents to upkeep his lifestyle is very taxing on ones mental energy.

i'm a neet and im pretty sure that i'm not going to make it because i have no discipline to study

>NEET

>Literally someone who has no responsibilities and is probably living of their parents

>NEETs are almost always lazy undiciplined slobs

>Thinking that theyll ever 'make it' anywere

Nice b8

Basically this >>2574048 , if you aren't capable of getting at least some kind of job and a roof over your head, you also can't be a working artist.

>b-but I won't have time studying...

Every succesful artist found the time studying and making art. Beksiński always had some kind of job, not always related to art. Hell, at one point he was in local city government. And he did photography, music and sculpture besides his paintings and in later years experiments with 3D.

>>2574093
>aren't capable of getting at least some kind of job and a roof over your head
For eight months I work 12-14 hours per day with two weekends in months for 268$. Fuck off. And tons of japanese artists were NEET. Algenpfleger was NEET with rich parents for example

>>2574006
Dumb animeposter

>>2574048
>Literally someone who has no responsibilities
Translation
>Literally someone who can study full-time

>>2574117
Someone who can and someone who will are two different things.

>>2574109
Did you escape living in somolia?

>>2574171
Russia after crisis. Not Moscow town

>>2574048
kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsFJeFru1pM
Listen to him. He basically says "You will never make it if you just practise 2 hours a day"

>>2574038
you might as well just kill yourself f a m

>>2574175
romania here, not bucharest, same story

300$, 9 hours per day minimum and without commmute. 6 days per week

still living with my parents, and grandparents. yep that's right, my father lives with his parents

If you had what it took to make it, you wouldn't be a NEET in the first place

Still yet to see any half-decent NEET artist, yet NEETs here like to bash actual motivated, disciplined, and professional arts students that make, understandably, better work than then

>>2574211
>actual motivated, disciplined, and professional arts students that make, understandably, better work than then
It's not their merit. It's only money of their rich parents and work of teachers. Even monkey can learn how to draw in places like Cal Arts. Give all NEET free education in Cal Arts and everyone of them will become professional artists.

>>2574211
>If you had what it took to make it, you wouldn't be a NEET in the first place
That's not how reality works.

>>2574188
There are six hours from 8pm to 2am. You can maintain a full time job and practice at least 6 hours a day pretty comfortably, honestly-if your job isn't super demoralizing anyway (which is easier said than done)

2:00am-8:00am: sleep
8:00am-9:00am: wake up, eat, commute, etc.
9:00am-5:00pm: work
5:00pm:8:00pm: errands/exercise/recreation
8:00pm-2:00pm: git gud

If you could maintain a schedule like that for 5 days a week you'd be golden.

The problem holding many of us back is addiction, I believe. Whether it's 4chan, videogames, tv, or socializing, many of us throw a lot of time away on frivolities that could be relegated to just a couple days a week.

>>2574231
>There are six hours from 8pm to 2am. You can maintain a full time job and practice at least 6 hours a day pretty comfortably
Nice theory, but real life it's not so simple.

>>2574228
>Give all NEET free education in Cal Arts and everyone of them will become professional artists

I-I don't need art school anyways I can make it without connections r-right, /ic/?

>>2574239
>it's "dat guy" posting his anti-artschool epic meme pictures in 3..2...1...

>>2574236
The assertion of the thread is that a layabout NEET who has 16 hours a day to work at his art will do just that, that's no more or less unrealistic than the idea that a person with gainful employment will make the best of the 8 hours they've available minus sleep and errands.

>>2574211
There are several times more NEET professional artists than schooled ones tbqph

>>2574246
Get meme'd on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttMdwUbSpBg

>>2574006
Whats a good study method for an 8hr draw schedule?

I tried studying an anatomy book for 8hrs straight, but that drained me fast.

Ive heard, old Academic Drawing, Schools would have artists draw figures for a few hours; before changing the pose. Would this benefit a neet?

>>2574247
NEET day cycles are always the same. Like a math.
But for people who have work it's not. It's more random.

>>2574265
>Whats a good study method for an 8hr draw schedule?

>>2574291

>>2574193
>>2574175
you should really start doing low level commissions as soon as possible. Porn is easy to get into and doesnt require much skill. Do it and you'll be rich for your standards

>>2574270
That's the exact opposite of correct.

Working people have a set schedule/routine, NEETs do not-though they often fall into one there is nothing forcing them to adhere to it.

I am not bashing either lifestyle, but I am advocating a realistic interpretation of them. If you work full time it is very possible to get better as an artist-and you will. If you don't work at all outside of art you will also get better if you put the time in, that's the crux of the matter. "Will you put the time in?" The answer to this question for a good portion of both hobbyists and students, NEET or employed, is "no".

>>2574006
I've been a neet for about a year now, and I can tell you that's not true, people who work have a better work ethic and often have more energy. I just recently started to get back on track by reading some books on self-discipline; I am now going on daily runs and have set times to draw. I plan on working so hard this summer that I will no longer be a neet.

The hardest part of being a neet is staying motivated. If you can find a way to keep yourself in a groove and working towards some purpose you can be incredibly productive, but that can be pretty challenging for some people. A lot of people grow up being funneled into a schedule around school, band practice or something like that so suddenly being left to their own devices they might not know what to do. When I first went neet my productivity slipped considerably but once I started getting the wind back in my sails I've been more motivated to draw and work than ever and it's showing more and more in my work and in demand for my work. All in all I would say it's very worthwhile for the kind person who can commit and take full advantage of it but some people are better fueled by building up anticipation for art time while they work and fill their schedule with non-art obligations. It really comes down to the individual.

taking a joke this seriously

>>2574600
this is why i hate this website so much now

nobody knows what bait is anymore

>>2574109

I understand that you have rich, doting parents too? Also $268 is Kongo tier job, if you earn that much anywhere in Europe or USA (I'd say that in Mexico and most of South America also) then you are retard tier only fit for sweeping streets and beating his wife and 5 children.

>>2574601
I think it's pretty obvious OP was complete hyperbole but that doesn't mean there isn't enough material for a light discussion. The thread was made, it may as well get some use.

>>2574603
those are normal salaries in EAST europe. There is a big gab between east and west europe, don't think in the whole europe is the same

>>2574603
>Also $268 is Kongo tier job, if you earn that much anywhere in Europe or USA
>retard tier
It's STEM tier salary in some countries, retard.

>>2574006
After 2 years I make it. Its really funny cuz i don't put much effort.

>>2575012

I am from eastern europe and no, nobody earns that low, even minimal salary is $450.

>>2575012

Yeah, like in Kongo maybe. Or are you from Donbass in Ukraine? Fucking kek if you have to be a fuckpoor villager from bumfuck nowhere to dream about being an artist.

>>2574006
Daily reminder that if you post weeb animu faces you're never gonna make it

>2575199
/pol/ degenerate pls, try to google job offers for example in Russia.

>>2575199
False. You have to subtract taxes from everything. Then we can talk about actual income.