/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

old thread died. heres a new self portrait i did

>>2515700
You should read the sticky-- or just hammer in the fundamentals because they're really lacking

>>2515700
and you still look like a muslim

>>2515698
Do you literally have aspergers?

Another quickie.

>>2515724
j'aime

>>2515731
Merci!

>>2515700
Please use your influence to convince her its a good tradeoff to go on mfc to fund her kickstarter film. I'm not lying when I say I'd pay 400 bucks on group/private shows and so would a lot of other guys.

>>2515745
She went on myfreecam.com as opcandybutt_ last time to fund her desktop computer on december 8 2012 and she's due for another new equipment upgrade plus cameras. If you watch the full 35 minute vid she says "I'm trying to get my desktop" when she's lounging around after masturbating.

>>2515724
latin girl, make a blog.

>>2515757
I have it, and I'm updating it.
https://www.instagram.com/lorennalannes/
lorennalannes.tumblr.com

This whole board has become a fucking landfill.

>>2515754
She's streaming now talking about building a new computer and has a camera goal.
ohpleaseohpleaseohplease Sersiously I'd buy everything she wants if she came back. profiles .myfreecams. /OPcandybutt_

man i sure could go for a big juicy cock in my ass right about now, it's been almost 30 minutes!

>>2515762
post bunda

>>2515804
Fuck off.

>>2515804
>>2515836
not me, obviously.
Not that theres anything wrong with his desires.

>>2515898
Don't worry, we all know nobody would be willing to put their dick in you.

>>2515724
What medium is this?

>>2515778
tfw i would pay her 100 USD to say "i will never marry you brian" live on stream and she would probably totally do it.

>>2515832
Haha!
>>2515918
Oils

Hey guys, could I have some input? I've spent so much time trying to figure out if the eyes are looking straight at you, like something just seems off. Is it the shape of the right eye? The iris or pupil? How can I make my art better? Maybe one of you will see something I can't because after looking at it so long and making a million revisions, it still looks odd. I zoom out, she looks up, I zoom in and it's almost there? Help please :) Thanks guys.

>>2515964
On first glance the eyes are just too big. Don't know if you want to go for a kawaii look though. Also the hair does not match the skull shape I think. Hand is obviously fucked up.

memed hard

>>2515989
"stop making fun of the poor guy" -catt,2016

>all of my keks

>>2515990
Wow did she actually say that? That's hilarious if so.

>>2516025
its recorded, so yea, if you dont believe so watch the streams re-run later and wait for that post and her reply. she also threatened to end the stream if it became a topic.

>>2516031
Fuck yes that's amazing. I'm definitely gonna watch that shit.

work work

i wish i had more time in the day

>>2515698

Can someone stop this vapid cunt from making the OP? There isn't even any art in the picture. Literally the worst person on this entire board

Trying to paint interior environments.

This is actually for/from a VN, still need to get in touch with them tho.

>>2516104
i think this looks great but the bed sheets are fucked

>>2516104
that's pretty damn good

>>2515964
Draw a skull over her head and you'll notice how fucked the feature placement is.

>>2516106
Yeah, light comes mostly from the other side and the shape doesn't read that well, right?

I'll look it over, I'm not done with this anyway as I gotta "populate" it with clutter once I figure out what the room's owner is about.

>>2515724
Hey I saw your post from previous thread about using the cheapest materials available. Does that also include oil paints?
I've been on the fence about whether to get some cheap student grade oils or artist grade.

>>2516081
Unfortunately we can't stop him and people thus far have been unwilling to switch to a new thread when we make one.

>>2516031
YOU HEAR THAT BRIAN. ITS RECORDED!
AND IF SHE BY CHANCE CHOOSES NOT TO LET THAT SESSION BY RE-WATCHABLE LIKE SHE HAS EVERY EPISODE THUS FAR, IT MEANS SHES HIDING IT FROM YOU.

>>2516155
I watched it live and the impression I got was she thought 4chan was being silly.

>>2516163
>she in no way stood up for her "man".
10/10 relation ship

That said, i do think /ic/ is being a bit rough on brian.

Where can I improve the most?

>>2516185
Look at the fucking op of this thread. He's constantly jumping in front of everyone screaming Hey look at me! Aren't I so great?! And if you tell him anything about improving his so called art he derails entire threads with utter bullshit. On top of that he goes after people who are even remotely well liked to try and drag them into asinine epeen measuring contests. We're honestly not being rough enough on the faggot.

>>2516189
not photocopying, brushwork, backgrounds, ear anatomy, materials

here's a new one

>>2515981
Yeah I made the eyes bigger on purpose for a more dolly look. I see what you mean about the hair, it looks like she's wearing a wig that's sliding off. Haven't done anything with the hands yet, just the basic outline and base color. I still have a ways to go with this drawing. I'll probably take the hair in more, especially from the top/upper left.

>>2516109
Yeah I wasn't going for realistic, but more like semi-realistic. As in, cartoony doll features but lots of skin texture. I'll try the skull thing though, it might help me out with the weird eye thing, and the way the hair sits. I did use a reference, and their part was off to the side like that but with the changes I made to the face, it seems kinda off. Thanks for the suggestions! :)

>>2515736
>frenchies surrendering yet again

>>2516189
Don't "blend/blur" everything. It makes the image more interesting and dynamic with a mixture of hard and soft edges.

>>2516104
Really cool. I like the palette.

>>2516060
Do you have an art blog?

>>2516204
Any more?

Finally done with this, still need to keep an eye on contrast, saturation and value balance.
Any suggestions/crits?

>>2515715
that's a very dark painting

>>2515698
Whats with the retarded picture?

>>2515700
Have a feel that the distance between mouth and nose is not right and the head is too big

>>2516104
I love this, reminds me of Pascal Campion's art. Very nice.

>>2516353
i think it still has that 3d mockup feel
make it more subtle, make it look older, break up all those straight lines

>>2516353

you can squeeze out more depth by handling sharpness better, in particular at edges

Just draw this pose, critique please.
Im fairly new to drawing and need help improving.

>>2516287

grantsru.tumblr.com

wip

>>2515698
posting progress from last thread

>>2516425
Ah, good to hear that. I kind of lost focus on it and couldn't see it anymore. Thanks
Also, definitely would have put in more hours of rendering for these things but I kind of had a deadline to meet.
>>2516428

What do you suggest, in which areas should I tone it down or up?

feedbak pls
I want them to be linking arms but Im not sure if that's the correct way. Also what do I need to work on? I'll come back with lineart and hair for girl on right

>>2516449
eye placement

>>2516501
shiet, ya. Thanks

>>2515698
Any tips on drawing with pens?

Im trying to improve my line quality and my ability to "think" before I draw

>>2515698
What exactly do you mean when you keep saying "raise a kid with" gamecatt? I actually believe you have some kind of platonic artists muse obsession with her, I think she's special too, it's just the "raise a child with" part that makes no sense to me.

no bad talking... im an artist. i dont need critiqing this is my style of doing things my way.

>>2516676
>facebook filename

Won't anyone actually try? Even a little?

>>2516688
the drawing or the shit posting?

How does mine look? I haven't drawn in almost 8 years. How can I make it better

>>2516676
This is very poor quality bait anon. your going to have to be more subtle. Like, if you were to post a set of that stuff, that would be pretty good. Even still, you could just be drawing and being more productive sempai

reposting cause I was in the last thread

>>2514890
Wow thanks for the in depth crit anon. Sounds like you know a lot more about color than I do. I tried my best to apply what you said but I'm still a little unsure about the way it looks right now.
I tried desaturating the contrasting colors a lot, or moving them closer on the hue scale to eachother so they weren't so distracting.
Does this work better? Also I applied a cool photofilter to the one on the left, I've heard this helps tie the colors together but I don't know if its working.
Thanks a lot anon!
>>2515288
Yeah someobody else told me that too...hmmm. I'll consider changing it but its a little hard right now cause it was traditionally inked. Originally I had him slouching halfway off the bed in a defeated depressive pose but I couldn't draw it the right way so I just made him look frustrated.

thanks for your help peeps

>>2516353
it feels like a paint over of a 3d model.

>>2516112
I'm sorry for my late reply. Yes, I use cheap oil paints aswell because I'm a poor bastard, but good oil paints are a good investment. Basically, there are two important differences between a good and a bad oil paint: pigment purity and strenght. A good way to know if what you are buying is decent, even if it's cheap, is to check the ammount of pigments used, for example, a Ultramarine Blue pure pigment is a PB29, so, if you check on the back of the paint tube and that's what's there, you know this is at least not a mix to try to reproduce the original pigment. My cheap Ultramarine Blue is PB29. I also have, for example, two Naples Yellow here. One of them is PY42/PW6 and the other is PY42/PY35/PW6. Both of them are crap. The pure Naples Yellow is a PY41. So yes, you should check for those things before you buy paints, sometimes there is little difference between an expensive and cheap paint. And, in the case of Naples Yellow, I should buy a better one.Here you can find a database of pigments. http://www.artiscreation.com/Color_index_names.html

Now for strenght. The quality of a pigment is known as you add white. The more white it takes to lose strenght, the more different values you can obtain with it. And also, observe if it maintains saturation instead of going torwards gray (that's a characteristic of dirty colors). I hope I helped.

okkk im gonna post this here

>>2516841
Nice start. You've got some rather strange colours going on though and it looks a bit muddy. I know you are going for the opposite temperatures in light/shadow but it is a little to extreme at the moment.

Also be careful of your form shadows vs cast shadows. Typically you want your form shadows to have a softer edge to them at the terminator so the form rolls over.

life drawing.

i'm thinking about adding more details to the wood and the rendering is not quite finished yet. besides that i'm quite happy.
i learned a shitload about how form moves in space while doing this, because of the stucture on the wood itself.

I've been drawing for a month now.
any critique is more than welcome.

>>2516353
i really like this one! did you use 3D models in constructing the architecture? the colors are really amazing.

photostudy done with acrylics

>>2516770
That's because it is.

>>2516857
Thanks, yeah I used SketchUp for this one

What do you think?

>>2516353

Too many hard edges.

I really like it, but I think it would look way better if the brick texture got lost more in the shadows. You could also soften the shadow edges a touch. All in all you need to some more lost and soft edges to get rid of the 3d feel. I'm not saying you have to go full painterly or anything but definitely soften things up.

>>2516758
The room's perception is off. While I think this is a good concept you have, it just needs a little work. The walls don't seem parallel, and the floor looks almost as if it's leaning up instead of flat. Like the base of the tv doesn't fit with how the bed looks like on the floor, or the top/bottom of the dresser or desk. Look at the furthest right bottom corner of the desk, you can see it's not flat on the ground either, it shows the wall underneath it. the window's perception is off too. Even if it's a cartoon and not realism, perception still counts in having a good composition. The toilet paper roll looks like it's floating, the bed/close wall seems like it should be rotated a bit counterclockwise, and maybe a little vertically as well.

So basically all the perception of this photo is off, and to fix it, you'd have to get some guidelines, maybe find some online you like and read/learn about it. watch a youtube video explaining.

Also that tv is huge, you can't even get it through the doorway. It seems giant because I imagine the back to be bulky since it isn't touching the back wall. Maybe someone else could agree with what I'm saying?

Help pleasek.

>>2516834
Yea you were a big help, thank you!
That link is great as well.
I'm pretty cheap too so I'll probably have to settle for cheaper paints, or maybe a more limited palette.
Any limited set of colours you'd recommend to start with?
I feel starting with a lot of colours from the get go would just be wasted on me, I have experience painting digitally, but the mixing of paints aspect in digital is missing for the most part, so I don't have that much experience with that.

>>2516977
Not him, but I'd recommend either zorn palette (white, yellow ochre, vermillion, payne's gray) or simple warm/cool palette (white, warm yellow + cool yellow, warm blue + cool blue, warm red + cool red)

>>2516977
Me again. I would rather tell you to understand color bias than to simply pick up a reduced palette without understanding the colors you are picking and using and why.
A warm/cool palette is a great pick, but you need to understand in traditional media what is cool and what is warm.
Color bias is the tendency of a color to go torwards another. For example, Ultramarine blue pigments usually have a tendency to go torwards red, so for that, it is considered a warm blue. When mixed with, for example, a yellow, it won't give you the purest or more powerful of greens, it is a blue that is better for purples if you are going for strong colors. Ftalo blue, in the other hand, goes torwards green, which is in the cool spectrum of the color wheel, and it's great for making real strong greens. That happens with every color, every color has a bias, and the purest the pigments used, the least dirty it is and easier it is to understand what you are doing.
I will drop you a link with information about color bias, the website is terrible looking but it has good info.

Also, I'm using right now (and this works for me and it's not exactly a suggestion)
Titanium White, Burnt Sienna, Light Cadmium Red, Magenta, Naples Yellow, Lemon Yellow, Ultramarine Blue, Ftalo Blue, Payne's Gray.

https://sites.google.com/site/scienceofcolour/color-bias-of-artist-pigments
Here is the link.

did some tweaking on an older piece.
should i just scrap trying on this?

lines r DUN

>>2517014
>>2517049
Thank you guys, a lot of great info.
I'll have to order some paints soon!

>>2515698
can I get some crit on muh style?

>>2517086
I like it the way it is, looks pretty neat-o

>>2516841
do u have a tumblr or anything?

>>2516939
Kek, *perspective anon, not "perception".

today's study

>>2517233
Pretty nice overall. The ear is really lazily handled though. And every brushstroke in the hair looks the same size, so I would try to get a bit more variety of shape in there. Otherwise good job, the values are very cleanly handled and the forms read well.

>>2516699
Rotate 360 degrees and walk away to >>2516973

>>2516916
Ah, yeah I get what you mean. Normally I don't use a 3d mockup to that extent so I wasn't aware that it's actually still that obvious like the other anons mentioned. Thanks a lot m8

>>2517205
i have dA, haha
its 0nryo.deviantart.com

>>2516860
love the color variations
can't say much for anything else

What do you think?

>>2517492
pretty cool but the hips weird me out a bit

>>2517493

I see what you mean. Thanks f.am

>>2517192
if you could at least linked the whole leg in one swift line and same for the torso as well as putting it up a bit and cleaning your line work. thatd be great.
>>2516908
beg thread
>>2516442
beg thread
>>2516204
just leave the website go to /thrash/
>>2516189
feels gridded but the eyes are too low/ skull too big for it to be gridded. So I honestly cant understand how you got to that point

>>2516450
would like some feedback on this, I'm a total beginner with real life studies.

>>2517492
how did you make the noisey/grain effect?

Give me the c

>>2515698
What the hell Brian? You give everyone here shit for bringing up her past and then you post this? Is this supposed to be ironic or something? I guarantee she won't appreciate this.

>>2517585

God is that guy an obsessive, ignorant, creepy piece of shit. Really, I want this asshole to be dead.

>>2515700
face seems flat - mouth doesnt show its shape, you have a symmetrical shape for the mouth while the mouth should turn in space.
proportionwise it feels wonky in the body
if you are painting why are you using black lines like on the arm and neck?

in general id advise you to get into figure drawing a lot, or you will be a slave eternally of how accurately can you copy reality. because eventually you will be more accurate and people wont notice any mistakes, but you won't be able to differ one bit from the picture without nailed in fundamentals.
and you won't even admit to yourself why, and no one will understand why you aren't michelangelo tier yet (at least in outlook).

just my two cents though.

>>2517585
The thing is she genuinely seems to have put that all behind her too and compared to most women on twitch like legendarylea doesn't try to use sex and pandering to get views, she'd have way more than 70 viewers on average if he did. I think she sees her gamecatt identity as a break from that, if you look at her magicatt youtube account she was definitely using cleavage for views but that was 3 years ago.

There was kind of a heartbreaking moment this summer when she was streaming and a popular warcraft streamer raided her and one of his mods linked her old stuff and then it got spammed in chat and she looked like she was having a panic attack had to stop the stream and came back 10 minutes later and clearly been sobbing and then she didn't stream for a month after. I have a lot of genuine affection for her and think she's a sweetheart who made bad choices in the past and she deserves to be able to move on.

>>2517608
Bitch once bitch always

>>2517621
I don't think she was ever a bitch or stuck up. if anything she messed around with a lot of neckbeard types cause she thought hot guys were out of her league.

Feels like something is missing..
Critique?

>>2517626
what isn't?

>>/beg/

>>2517621
only trust bitches though.

>>2517585
Told you.

>>2517639
So your apology is sending her a pic where she looks 50? Why not just draw a pic of her topless in a thong holding out a donation hat.

>>2517693
Try to make yout shapes cleaner, i know you want it to look painterly but the key to making something look painterly while not looking like shit is to keep the fundementals very clean. Work on your value structure aswell. It's hard to tell objects apart when they have the same values as everything else and it will make your compositions better aswell.
You can study pic related.

How about form, composition, line of action and weight in your cartoon drawings and not having a madonna/whore fixation on an innocent woman whos dealing with severe depression who was probably initially flattered by your attention but is definitely creeped out right now, especially now that youve just told her you think shes pandering and have probably just negated any self esteem you might have given her, not that you seem that broken up about it since you're back to posting arrogant shit like this.

>>2517639

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>2517639
shit is cash

>>2517738
haha catt is hilarious. Catt if you're reading this come back, theres strength in numbers and soc is mainstream now. Ask yourself whens the last time you felt a RUSH from attention.

>>2517639
>>2517701
lol fucking Brian

>>2515724
Please tell me how you get nice skin colors
And what you do for shadowed parts of skin

For most of your paintings, I see that you use very flat lighting schemes, but when there are harsh shadows it seems that you use the approach where you just use a singular dark color for the shadows.

>>2517701
>>2517639
Fucking pathetic

>>2517721
Who is this faggot and why the fuck would someone who drew shit like >>2517701 unironically think there is nothing left for him to learn?

Brian is literally the most immature faggot I've ever seen.
Seriously, I've been here for the past 5 years and Brian is the only person who has continued to be a worthless piece of garbage who isn't worth anything.

His art sucks, his personality sucks, he's probably a giant creepy jackass in real life.

I thought /ic/ was better than this. There were a few other people that couldn't receive critiques like normal human beings and /ic/ weeded them out so that they never would return. But Brian thinks he's become a meme, when in reality he's just fueling his own demise.

When you really think about it, if Brian doesn't change now, he'll continue being a motherfucker until all that's left are his shitty drawings and paintings and no one left to "encourage" him.

He's a piece of shit, I'm not sure why we keep following him and encouraging him. There's waaay better people on here to support.

>>2517754
>I thought /ic/ was better than this

Where do you think you are?

>I've been here for the past 5 years and Brian is the only person who has continued to be a worthless piece of garbage who isn't worth anything.

You mean to tell me you've been here for fucking five whole years and you still don't get it? I ask again where the fuck do you think you are seriously.

>>2517754
>I'm not sure why we keep following him and encouraging him.
He gets shit on constantly though. Most people here laugh at him or are tired of him and his "muh style" and weird obsessions.

>>2517755
I mean, you're the one replying with a smug anime face
At least in those 5 years I've grown as an artist rather than shitposting here

You're never going to make it at this rate, sorry

>>2517758
that's exactly the attention he seeks

>>2517759
>At least in those 5 years I've grown as an artist rather than shitposting here

Usually people who really grow as an Artist leave after two years tops, there is a reason why you're still here complaining about literally who? I mean give me a break nobody cares about some dude I remember shitposting his own self portrait painting after he left working at Subway or something.

>>2517753
Dont think its supposed to be realistic. Even though he is pathetic, the face is kinda cool, no? Mightve even like the drawing if it wasnt for the fucking arms.

>>2517755
>>2517767

this guy has a point, anon

>>2517767
I'm sorry, but if you know that good artists leave here after two years, how long have you been here to witness that?

>>2517770
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know I was in the retarded section. I'll see myself out

>>2516939
Fuck, I flipped it and I can't believe I never realized how bad it was. I think the biggest problem is the tall dresser in the corner, but I don't know how to fix it without redrawing the entire thing. I tried to fix the floor by making there be assymetrical room between the closest wall and the bed, and I'll fill it up with garbage or something.
I did set up a grid but I guess I fucked up and wasn't careful enough.

>>2517749
In white skin, there are always 4 tones that you will likely find: pink, yellow, green and blue. And when I say those colors, I'm not even saying it in its purest form (unmixed), or saturated to the point of being easily recognizable. They are mostly always there to a degree and you have to search for them, and you have to recognize how saturated or closer to gray those hues are and you need to know how to mix them in a clean way so the skin doesn't look muddy (subject I talked about earlier in the post). That's basically it, and the only way to achieve that is training your eye, training it to see the colors underneath the obvious and get its values right. To have a good eye is the most important thing, both to understand the color you are seeing and to recognize the difference between what is there and what you are putting in the canvas. Is it missing more yellow? Is it missing more pink? There is no shortcut.
That's what gives dimension to skin tones: variety. As to shadows areas, I particurlarly believe the painting happens in the lighted areas, so I like to make them look flat, not really monochromatic though. I vary the color of the shadow/cast shadow depending on the area of the face/body. I just started painting something, and I'm a messy bastard - I know, but those are 3 very lazily pre mixed pink/orange/blue that I picked for the start. I will mix them between each other mostly trying to keep it coherent and clean, but not always either. I hope I helped you. Also, keep in mind that colors are usually less saturated and neutral than you would think, if you are going torwards a natural look.

>>2517774
>I'm sorry, but if you know that good artists leave here after two years, how long have you been here to witness that?

For at least a couple of years however it doesn't take a genius to realize what this place is you take the resources and filter out the shitposting and whatever kernels of information you can get out of it and also I am not the one tooting my own horn telling everyone that I have grown as an artist and that I am being holier that thou.

>Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know I was in the retarded section. I'll see myself out

Please do, you honestly sound like someone who came straight out of Facebook or some cancerous cesspool like Tumblr go blog about your five years and how some douche is has been a prick for all these years or whatever it was you where moaning about.

>>2517777
Also, some bones studies to not forget how to draw.

>>2517777
you are doing gods work senpai

>>2517778
> it doesn't take a genius to realize what this place is you take the resources and filter out the shitposting and whatever kernels of information you can get out of it

People come here for different reasons, anon.
Not everyone here comes to leech off all the info and resources available, you know

And fine, I'll make my way back to Facebook and whine about it. At least I'll be away from people like you and Brian.

>>2517777
>>2517779
I REALLY hope you're looking at benjamin björklund

>>2517788
Why?

>>2517543
progress

>>2517789
The way the paint is applied, choice of subject and colors.
Except Benjamin is HUGE on edge control, and I think that >>2515724 could benefit from looking at benjamin's paintings.

I mean obviously he/she can take whatever she wants from him, even if it's nothing, but I thought I'd just put Benjamin into his/her mind.

>>2517794
She probably already does look at his work. Or at least is aware of it. Her stuff is similar enough that comparisons to him have been brought up several times already.

I think it's dangerous though to tell her to conform closer to Benjamin's style. Let her take her own course and not just ape someone else's approach.

>>2517780
Also, thank you!

>>2517794
>>2517801
Thank you for input, I appreciate it.

>>2517802
Hope this isn't too personal, but what was your relation to him? Did you have a falling out? A breakup? How did you know him?

Anyways, I can understand wanting to separate your style from his. At the moment there are obviously some things in common so I doubt comparisons will stop for a while until you develop in new directions that will be a certain distance from his work. I don't think anyone intends any negative things from the comparisons though, if anything it is the reverse.

>>2515964
there's usually a space of "one eye" in between the actual eyes; so when drawing eyes make sure there is space between, but not too much
I think the skull is too wide, maybe?

>>2517810
I'm sorry, I can't talk about that here, my post was way too impulsive. I do understand the comparisions aren't negative though, but yes, right now I would like it to not happen, although I know it's impossible.

Hello, tried out something new today as a warm-up
Thoughts?

>>2517816
Alright fair enough. Sorry if I made you uncomfortable asking those questions.

For what it's worth I think your work is pretty strong and while there are similarities in style, your stuff definitely has its own flavour and is different in my eyes.

I would just ignore the comparisons for now or put up with it for a bit. Given how far your work has come in the past couple years I'm guessing that in another few your stuff will be very separate from his and the comparisons will stop.

>>2517810

Fucking hell, I'm always too late to the drama. What did I miss?

>>2517822
Thank you for the kindness anon, I appreciate it.

>>2517801
>>2517809
>>2517816
Yo I had no negative intentions when recommending him.
You're stuff is good no doubt and while there are similarities, but if you look at both of your instagram galleries you can definitely see that there's a difference.
Now if you're really worried about pulling away from him, focus on what you like the most about painting. In the post where you talk about skin tone and color, you say something about most of the painting happening within the light. If you're really interested in that, maybe play with different compositions and lighting setups. Play with how light affects skin and the translucency of it, maybe models of different ethnicities, or perhaps play with color relationships. You could look at John Asaro for color vibrancy. Maybe look at Steve Huston's paintings for compositions and poses as well as lighting structures.

Again I didn't mean to have negative intention. But i wouldn't count out Ben. He's successful at what he does, aka he's done all of the hard work. So if you are struggling with something, don't be hesitant to look at his work because of the person he was, rather look at it because of the artist he is.

>>2517788
>>2517794
wow those are freaking beautiful

Sketch for the Spitpaint I'm doing when I get home. Interdimensional being

>>2517929

Why is there a hand fondling its groin?

>>2517930
Because he likes it....

>>2517775
redraw the entire thing, do not become attached to an illusion, especially if you are the creator of it.

>>2517986
No dude, I understand what you mean but thats exactly why I'm NOT redrawing it again. I'm not going to spend a bunch of hours redrawing the same exact thing, that's fucking stupid. I'll just move onto the next one, I'm just trying to get this to its least shittiest version without redrawing it all.

>>2517901
Nice shapes

>it's another Drawma thread

the hide function is the GOAT feature on this website

>>2516459
The girl on the right. Fix HER left foot.as well as the head

The guy on the left. Maybe adjust his gesture and HIS right arm.

As far as the linking arms, look at a reference. Or link your arm with someone and try to understand it

quick n dirty studie before work

>>2517929
Forgot about this one. Oh well, I did two 30minute art prompts today.

Death's embrace

>>2518318
Eye of the desert

from ref mostly

>>2518438
what the FUCK IS THAT HANDWRITING

did a draw

>>2518438
Do you write in alien?

>>2515724
Do you have a blog? I am lovin those edges.

>>2518478
I appreciate that you love Shinkawa and kim jung gi but if you really want to draw like them you need to learn to really draw. Practice construction and drawing from reference. Everything you draw is lacking informed decisions and therefore lacking detail that would make it as interesting to look at as the aforementioned artists' work. Not to mention the lacking accuracy that denotes an inexperienced artist behind the work. Drawing from reference can be tedious but you're going to end up doing it anyway. If you make a conscious effort you can get through it sooner.

I know this is just a rough sketch but i'd appreciate value & color crits

>>2518549
>Shinkawa
did not know who that was until now. thanks.
also, yea i agree, refs help, i was at a job agency meeting when doing this sketch, so, not much for refs unless a-bunch of suits is what i draw. thanks for your advice.

>Been studying art for like 4 years now
>Open Photoshop
>Try to paint a cute girl face
>Looks like absolute shit
>See other artists who do it flawlessly with a third of the values you used
>Try 5 more times
>Still shit

>>2515698

i made this yesterday

>>2518650

Composition is shiiiiiiiiit and unbalanced as fuck

>>2518554
Look pretty good.You can reduce how many values you are using though. Like within the lights (or within the darks), there is a fair bit of variation and you can say the same form changes with smaller value steps.

All that warm bounce light i the shadow looks a bit weird too since whatever object it is coming off of isn't included in the painting.

Half of the time when I color or paint something it looks worse than the sketch instead of improving it. This face...I drew it once in the sketch and liked it but I'm having such a hard time reproducing it without it looking disfigured and ugly because of the angle.

>>2518705
Is it better without the pupils? Sorry meant to include that in last pic.

>>2518705
You just need a better understanding of how light and form interact. Have you tried doing painting studies of figures at all?

>>2518713
yes senpai but I admit I need more practice. Maybe I'll do a quickie

>>2518482
yes

>>2517843
Oh no Anon, it's completely fine, I know there was no negative intentions, no worries! And I really appreciate your advice and input, I will keep it in mind, thank you.

>>2518533
Thank you! I do have a blog, it's here >>2515762

>>2518717
>>2518713
how is this
my senpai
i can feel the knowledge entering me

>>2518849
Not bad. I think you have a couple things working against you at the moment.

1) You are using too many values in the light. Look at the chest for example, in the ref it is nearly one flat mid grey tone. In yours you have a mid grey tone, and then a light grey plastered on top of it. Look at his biceps too and you have the same problem. Too many values in any given section.

2) You are using a hard and textural brush everywhere. Look at the ref, most of the skin is smooth except perhaps where there is some body hair. I would use a brush without texture in areas where there is no texture. And look too at the points on the body where it turns from light to shadow, there is a soft smooth gradient that happens. But in yours you paint it choppy and hard. Try using a softer brush on those areas, or using the smudge tool or mixer brush.

3) There are lots of small inaccuracies in the shapes and values and overall gesture/pose. I think this is a result of rushing it. Try slowing down just a little bit and going for a greater degree of accuracy.

>>2518859
Thank you! Yeah I see what you mean. I'll work on all of those things. That's really insightful about the too-many values thing. Sometimes I assume I have to use all of them.

Today so far for practice

>>2519040
i like this

hello friends

I've been working on this slowly and not sure about the foreshortening.

help would be much appreciated~

>>2519179
Everything is viewed from a different perspective. Like none of the forms are sitting in space properly in relation to each other. Try to break down things into their most basic forms like cylinders and cubes, and then get the angles on them all right before going into detail like this.

Her gesture too is really weird. Have you tried getting into the pose yourself with a broom in front of a mirror? You should pretty quickly see how you got things wrong.

>>2515698
how would i go about further refining and rendering this piece?

>>2519267
Get more values in there, especially darks. There should be some more occlusion going on and probably the shadows in general can be knocked down a value.

Start breaking down the form into small planes and specifying all the form changes rather than just airbrushing in an approximation.

Throw in a background tone and some eyes, and start playing with edge work more.

When in doubt, use reference.

I'm a bit concerned on the perspective involved here on the crab. Basically, the crab is on top of a circular table, with the girl leaning on the crab. Does it make sense, or am I just overthinking it?

Second time digital drawing lol

>>2519267
SON OF A BITCH THIS KEEPS HAPPENING.
the colors on my stupid ass monitor is off and it doesnt look nearly as neon on my screen

>>2519179
Why does she look so disinterested and stiff in what I assume is a dynamic action pose?

>>2518663
Thanks, yeah i exaggerated the bounce light a bit.

Almost done with this one

why do the eyes look so wrong?

>>2519355
The irises seem a bit large, and the eyeball itself, along with the lids, is somewhat flat and can have more form.

Person #2

>>2519345
your pecks are too short

>>2519364
wow long time no see chunbum

>>2519372
long time no see haha

something I did for my boyfriend's sister. what could I be doing better?

>>2519370
Any tips on how to make it better?
Is it my brush set or I should be using them in a different way?

Person #1

>>2519380
wtf anon are you even trying?? her features are slanted as fuck, it almost looks like you drew her on a slanted surface and you didn't realise or you slanted the scan on purpose to present the drawing this way but what kind of idiot would do that right??
study the fundamentals, it looks like you have potential if you manage to fix this problem with the placement of her features and all that

>>2519391

sorry, I am autismo

here is the only other picture I have of it unfortunately

>>2519126
this eyes looks ridiculous

Finished today. What can be improved?

>>2516112
link to post about cheap stuff?

Did this from imagination. Any advice?

>>2519485
The eyebrow needs to be higher, and the middle area below the eye needs to get lighter, just like the eyelid area above.

Then at far right (or her left) it needs to get darker.

>>2519509

Funny thing, I had the brow higher but thought it should be lower for some reason so I adjusted it. That's what I get for not using a reference lol.

imagination anatomy stuff, the guy has a bad kicking pose though, I think I should have bent his right leg.

>>2515724
really enjoy your painting style anon, keep it up.

I'm done with this one.
Master study, Ilya Repin "Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks".

>>2519542
great use of edges, but the proportions are all skewed or off. Dial it back and do proper contstruction.

>>2519543
Paint more without opacity sensitivity. Force yourself to do it and your colors will improve dramatically.

>>2519567
Funny thing is, I don't use opacity sensitivity, can you tell me why you have this impression?

>>2519406
I feel obligated to respond to you again with a serious reply since I was a dick before.
First flip your drawing and you will see the imperfections on it... but I think you already know about them, specially since your tried to pull the trick angled pic of a drawing to mask the mistakes.

In general this drawing looks pretty, and it will look good to non artists, and your boyfriend's sister is going to like it for sure. As an artist, though, I can't say this is good on a technical level.

The features on her face are all a little misplaced, with the most glaring mistake being the eyes/eyebrows: her right eye is too far next to her cheek and her left eye is too close to the middle of the face giving the impression that it's the opposite eyebrow that goes too far to the middle of the face, as the other one barely covers the eye.
These little mistakes, and the fact that you don't use a lightsource and a variation of values to convey the form of her face shows you don't really think of your drawings in 3 dimensions, and that is what you are lacking to actually be good.

Again, it's a nice drawing for a hobbyist, but if you are taking this seriously you should look into the fundamentals again, study shapes, forms, values. Study anatomy of the face and body again, try drawing the same face from different angles and all that.

>>2519250
I like it. The use of light in the skies and the realism in the details is what you should do more, if you ask me.

some more from work the last 2 days.

>>2519656
old lady at work requested a flower.

>>2519658

>>2519659
last one for tonight

>>2519658
very nice, but why don't you paint the clouds? I think it might add a dimension.

>>2519683
if i were painting i would paint them lol. this is all brush pen and makers. i'll try and see if i can figure out clouds with what i have. i do think it could improve things.

>>2515698
Trying to get the hang of perspective.
Some mma fighters. Not very noticeable but there is a rectangle which would be the actual frame of the drawing

>>2519345
his head above his ears is actually a disgusting rotten puke color and you made it look like normal skin

study

>>2519651
thank you. I'll focus on that stuff.

>>2519731
Looks kinda fucked up

Working on this UFC print, going to start coloring soon. Going for a DBZ mashup with a bit of realismish. Gotta fix that hand among other things...

learning to draw digitally mostly for fun, but also want to get better. anyone got some advice on how to draw fur? also general critique welcome, I know the hands fucked up still working on that.

>>2519812
Careful of your proportions and shapes. I would also put in a background tone so you have a better sense of relative values to compare rather than working on top of a harsh white.

As for fur, it is the same as anything else basically. Squint your eyes and get the main colour masses in. You can go over with either a texture brush or a small brush and manually put in some fine texture, but that is the icing on the cake and really you just need the main shapes and values in correctly.

the shitty quality photo makes it look better than it is

>>2519826
Looks like you're trying to be Beksinski. Anyways, it would look better if you removed those walls on the right and left and just had yellow sky so that the giant floating rock has a nice silhouette and is hovering above this field of red heads or whatever. The way those walls recede just doesn't look good.

>>2519441
PUSH YOUR VALUES
GIT GUD

>>2517086
I wouldn't bother putting any more work into it unless your going to add something to make it vastly more interesting. Personally I'd add a monster in the bg but that's jus me

>>2517089
I like this but I think the boobs look off. I can't tell if she is the octopus thing or if it's like wrapping around her whatever.

>>2518278
interesting

>>2519355
The eyes are the darkest part of the picture so it's all you can look at. make some other dark parts or brighten them up or something.. unless that really is the darkest value

>>2518706
>>2518849
>>2518859
I am back Senpai.
How is this? I tried using the hard round instead of a textured brush. Should I have gone to airbrush? I hate airbrushing. The first took 1 hr, this took an extra hour for the smoothing I think
I went lazy on the extremities cause I wasn't concerned with them for right now

Before I attempt to smooth this out....how does it look right now?

>>2519812
beginner thread

>>2519135
Thanks.

A little update. I'm struggling with colors and need some advice.

any feeedback apreciated

>>2520000

is that supposed to look like a dude?

the eyes look real masculine, senpai

>>2520030
weird question but what dictates a "masculine" eye?

>>2520030
no.

>>2520031

thicker lines, sharper angles.

Look at nip cartoons for an exaggerated example

>>2519731
I have no idea what all these lines are. Also, use a straightedge for perspective. Every single time.

>>2519659
>>2519656
>>2519660
>BILL

>>2519804
>>2520147
was supposed to be an mma ring

>>2519288
It sucks

>>2520000
Looks like a tranny.

I'm struggling with the back of the hair/ponytail, specifically the bottom bits, can anyone help help out with getting it closer to the rest of the hair?

>>2519266
>>2519306
Thanks for the suggestions anons. I changed up the pose a bit to feel more natural and tweaked the expression.

>>2520370
She still seems out of place. Way too stiff.
Try being more gestural?

>>2520370
She has an extra finger

>>2516189
choose a different actor

>>2515698
wip, I know there's something wrong with the value read on the face, can someone try and figure it out, any other crits would be great too

fresh from work

>>2521286

>>2521288
this one was a bit of a wip. waiting on my marker refills.

supposed to be an acorn cap full of berries. how do i make this look more natural and consistent?(doesn't feel like the berries are actually resting in the cap to me)

>>2521410
I think it just looks weird because no acorn can fit that many berries in it. An acorn could fit like maybe one berry

>>2521530
good point. i'll knock it down to two berries next time i work on it.

>>2521410
maybe brighten the shadows on the berries a bit and bring some of their colour over to the rim of the cap.

>>2521410

The berries look like they're rather glossy in appearance from the highlights you've put on them, so maybe for the front ones add in a bit of bouncelight/reflections of the acorn cap to tie the two together.

Alright, I've taken a better picture. Please, critique the spatial reasoning on that crab as an arm-rest?

a collage i made in ps and painted in oils for my painting 1 final assignment. 22x30. critiques appreciated!

Thread limit reached?

trying out a new style

>>2521726
>4k x 4k
Christ..

>>2516189
first of all stop blending everything. The skin looks like plastic and the lips and eyes look like they've been pasted on. Incorporate rougher brush strokes and hard lighting

>>2521679
why have u been polishing this turd for a month with no changes

>>2521825
Well, the exact opposite reason why you're trying to critique art this late at night. Namely, I had better things to do, while it seems that you can't even do your job properly.

>>2521825
>rudely questions the personal life of some stranger
>expects a civil explanation
If it's a turd, it'd be delightful for you to explain why.

Hi. How do I achieve that kind of luminosity as is on the right painting (made by Anthony Ryder)? What I did was a grisaille, then glazed it and after that, I applied more opaque color (it's done with oils). It is not anatomically correct, ear looks like shit as do the glasses and eyes are missing form as well. How do I into painting beards and eyeglasses? Also if you have any tips, they are most welcome. Maybe put some orange on the planes below nose, chin and eyebrows too?

>>2521967
How bout doing studies of whatever youre trying to achieve? Ever thought of that retard?

>>2515724
its so cool the colors and edges are so nice. ayy/10 im aiming for a style similar to this. it feels so far away. keep rocking boss.

new?

>>2515724
>https://www.instagram.com/lorennalannes/
>you will never have a qt 3.4 grill who focuses on fine art
>she will never teach it to you and make you stop drawing illustrations and robots for old people
>you will always be alone in your quiet shitty apartment
>you will always lack basic human skills
why live?

>>2521995
Thanks for nothing m8.

This is a drawing done to be a jungle girl, but someone said look better with a sin thing suit.

>>2522579
>>2522579
>>2522579
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