/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Sorry for the OP pic being the same girl, someone made a compilation of beginner studies from two or three threads back and I thought it fit!

How did I do on eyes senpai?

>>2488707
I don't get the 3D feel.

>>2488707
Wait is senpai being corrected to senpai or is my phone being retarded?
Test: F am

>>2488712
Is that because my shadows are off?

>>2488713
Breaking news.

>>2488707
they seem off and wrong, you fuckt up something

Past all the shitposts, bait, and outright wrong advice, I wouldn't be halfway to where I am without the eyes of /ic/. And for that I thank all of you.

The last time I came here I was told to practice drawing straight lines but they all come out slightly curved. I just wanna draw buildings without the aid of a ruler

>>2488707
>just kill me

>>2488795
I forgot to actually ask my question, how do I get good

>>2488795
peter han

>>2488707
It looks like you just drew what you were seeing without understanding what it is you're seeing.

Ellen Page, please critique

(wake me up inside)

>>2489011


diagnosis :
You're symbol drawing but from what I can see you're not far off on proportion.

draw the same image again a few times, try applying shadow/shading/rendering/value whatever you want to call it

Other Comments :
Resize your images before posting next time you can do it in MS paint.

Prescription : Loomis Head and Hands (links in the sticky)

uploading a couple refs cause it motivates me when i see em in the beg threads

idk how good they are but yeah

>>2489025
(SAVE ME)

Definitely better than your last attempt. Keep at it and keep checking your proportions.

>>2489058
>>2489050
>>2489047
>>2489046
Thanks!

THREADLY REMINDER

So I'm retarded and can't make sense of what I'm trying to draw on my studies. Anyone mind pointing out where my second line should be going perpendicularly?

I did use a ruler in a couple spots, but only to rule out any errors of perception caused by odd lines on the box in question.

>>2489071
>where my second line should be going perpendicularly?
Not sure what you mean by this. what are you referring to as the "second line"?

I will say though, to have a natural looking viewpoint, the vanishing points will usually be off of the page. If you drew something with the setup you have it would look like a fisheye lens.

I know it isn't what you asked, but I just figured I'd point it out just in case you weren't aware.

>>2489071
>where my second line should be going perpendicularly?
Not sure what you mean by this. what are you referring to as the "second line"?

I will say though, to have a natural looking viewpoint, the vanishing points will be much farther apart. Usually off of the page. If you drew something with the setup you have it would look like a fisheye lens.

I know it isn't what you asked, but I just figured I'd point it out just in case you weren't aware.

>>2488413
I already scratch this piece of crap but before i scratch i tried to fix this shit

>>2488914
See I'm a bit confused when you say this. In the beginner art books in the sticky it says to draw exactly what you see
According to you I have done that so I'm having trouble grasping what you mean by 'understanding what it is you're seeing'

>>2489090
Ear is off, you would notice this if you used the ball-and-plane method.

>>2489092
You aren't. You think you are, but you aren't. Draw for another two weeks and look back at that drawing and you can tell that you aren't drawing what you're seeing. >>2489069

>>2489101
i think i draw more head with out hair

>>2489089
Sorry, didn't explain it very well. In the picture, you draw a horizon, then put down your view points on the horizon. after that, you make your first vertical line and connect it to both view points. This will give you planes which you then cut to make the box with two more vertical lines. I know you know this, I'm just writing it out to make sure we're on the same steps. Now this is where I'm lost: After making my primary line, I made a plane and bisected it, but I can't figure out where the other line is supposed to go. The exercise said to continue till the page was filled with boxes, so I imagine at some point, I'm supposed to exceed the point of perspective, but even if not, I'm still curious how one would get the shape of the box.

Anyone else sign up for Dynamic Sketching 1 starting next month or am I the only beginner with money to spare? I know the classes are all available online but I'd rather pay for the critique.

>>2489122
>I'd rather pay for the critique.

Do you mean to say dynamic sketching 1, in it's full course is free somewhere??

>>2489111
Any place you put them is technically correct and in perspective, their location just indicates the length and width of the box. If you want to make a cube, the one closer to a vanishing point should be shorter because that side is farther away.

>>2489090
nice

>>2489122
You might be disappointed with the crit. I was lucky enough to have peter han in ds 2. He's a bad teacher.

Why are the last few ribs so predominant if they are so far back into the body? Or is this image wrong?

>>2489143
Isn't that what draw a box is? It even has all the homework

>>2489217
The bottom ribs don't stick out in the front, but they tend to stick out on the sides. Muscles attached to the ribs also help to make them more visible.

>>2489285
He kind of changed the assignments based on what skills he thought were more important and is teaching based on his knowledge. I would rather get the lessons from the source than learn from what some mediocre artist learned.

>>2489289
but they do stick out in the front. Look at the marks they leave. That other photo doesn't seem to be accurate.

>>2489308
are you on drugs?

>>2489318
Very helpful reply, faggot

>>2489322
She's compressing her abdomen.
I don't know what you're seeing.

>>2489302
Yeah I get that but that guy seemed to not know about draw a box

>>2489217
The image is not perfectly accurate. That being said, it's hard to represent the ribs because of how flexible they are. Models you see with their ribs sticking out are either extremely low muscle/fat or breathing in a way to push the ribs out and the stomach in (usually the latter).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ph9tlaUSfo

>>2489324
What I'm asking is if this image here >>2489217 is inaccurate because, on it, the last five or so ribs are so far back into the body you shouldn't be able to see their outline like in pic related. You nigger.

>>2489217
This image is broken as fuck, look how far up the abdominal strip is starting. Don't use this as ref for anything. Stick to x-rays and trusted artist illustrations.

how did I do overall

>>2489330
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>>2489330
>>2489330
please share site access and or pic file collections/zips

purely for reference

>>2488700
how did so many people fuck up the construction stage of this drawing kek.

>>2489357
>Why is the beginner bad ?

Somebody rate this sketch. I just sorta got at it
>anthropomorphic animal character

>>2489378
Please improve your anatomy,proportions, hands etc.
Face style is interesting, but everything else is terribad.

>spending tons of time trying to copy
>still can't get it/end up being impatient and finish early

do I just need to keep doing it more or is it something else

(I just want to draw animu porn like lolitachannel etc. pls kill me)

>>2489381
>Face style is interesting

it's really not tho

>>2489357
Top left is very intruiging. Construction is passable yet every feature is to the extremes in terms of size.

>>2489217
this is wrong, the ribs arent that far out, how i know? I just fucking touched my own ribs and there are there just under some skin and muscle and feels like im touched the ribs themself.

>>2489347
just draw fucking people, i dont know wtf is that

wow those all look like shit
i havent drawn anything in like years, and i bet i could do better than all that dog shit

but im too fucking lazy and tired

>>2489274
also i gotta find her nudes so i can fap to this bitch then go to sleep

>>2489451
its beginner thread you fucking retard, can you just fucking kill yourself

>>2489436
It's interesting and it has the potential to make money.
Unlike the shitty studies you spend your life on.
>>2489451
Bait

gave up during color

>>2489462
Oddly enough, not all of us do it for money. And not trying to insult your process, but it reminds me too much of that pointy nose character steven universe.

>>2489398
spoken by someone who hasn't had a shred of discipline in his life

>>2489480
You know, everybody keeps fucking saying that, and honestly it makes me want to axe the feature, but then he's just a blue guy with a tail and doesn't look like a shrimp

>>2489494
I don't think it's your fault. It's a popular IP so it's natural. Prawn tails are iconic though, maybe you could consider those weird whisker things that most crustaceans have.

>>2489475
Really reminds me of that one alien-looking model with the weird nose. Strangely attractive. Forgot her fucking name thoguh.

>>2489502
molly bair?

>>2489511
Nope. The one I'm thinking of is some sort of asian and looks like pic related

>>2489524
last try.
>this took me 20 min to find

>>2489540
There we go. What a champion, anon.

Any advise on how I should continue on getting better ? Anything anyone has to say would be appreciated.

>>2489540

Jesus christ her eyes are so far apart. Fetal alcohol syndrome?

>>2489546
honestly judging from pic related, you are doing good, and you should keep on doing what you are doing.

>>2489546
Try drawing characters in environments for a challenge. Like a character sitting on those stairs.

>>2489217
That's a very good question, I can lift my shirt and see the bumps of my botton ribs sticking out round the sides and front and I'm not a very skinny guy

>>2489540
wow aliens are real

My this week compilation, what i should work the most next week?

So i just did this from one of those tutorials at ctrl paint. Hoping for critique and maybe more matte-ish pics to practice on if anyone has some

Loomis head study
1hr i'm slow as sloth taking shit

>>2489642
fuck forget the rotaite

>>2489641
watch your ellipses, especially on that middle section. It helps to draw through the form and draw the back of the object at the same time.

Also on the handle try drawing the simple form first before you add the small details (like that ovoid depression on the top) so that the details will follow the form.

rendering is pretty good but remember that there are two main types of shadows -- hard and soft, and that distinction is really important. Hard shadows are cast shadows (they are cast from an object interrupting the light) and soft shadows are form shadows (they result from the natural turning away of form from light).

You've turned the main cast shadow from the top of the pot into a soft shadow and it looks strange. You also made the cast shadow of the pot itself soft when it should be reasonably hard. (you can actually see that as the shadow gets further from the physical object, it softens slightly, but you have it soft throughout).

Also push your values a bit, it could use another step of light and dark (light on the top of the pot and the top of the handle and the upper left side of the pot should be a similar value to the white foreground).

Overall very well done but just a few points to keep in mind.

here is reference of skull age

>>2489649
Thanks for the tips. Ill redo this the rendering keeping this in mind (btw the lineart was provided with the videos, it was just a shading exercise. This time ill redraw the sketch as well, but on paper first since i suck at sketching in photoshop)

When practicing circles is it normal for one part to be extremely tight compared to the rest? Is there a theory behind this?

>>2489669
So anyone have any tips for getting better at sketching in digital? I cant even draw straight lines with ghosting since my hand doesnt slide as smooth as on paper

>>2489672
the advantage if digital is that you can undo instantly, so you place your lines and undo them until its perfect, digital wont ever have as good as traditional, atleast for now, since we are limited in tech slighty, but overall do to advantage in ease of work its better.

>>2489673
But there has to be some way other than attempt>ctrl z>attempt>ctrl z>repeat till success

>>2489675
The sensitivity on your pad might be too high. Try fucking with the settings until you can make straight lines.

>>2489675
well once you get better with practice, you will need fewer amount of crtl z, also dont watch the the mouse cursor, watch infront of where you wanna draw the line

>>2489678
Well my tab is a huion k58 and their drivers dont really give many settings to fuck with. Im also having a prob with the working. When im trying to make a selection or draw a vertical/horizontal with shift, the selection automatically disappears randomly and the straight line goes from vertical to horizontal mid way. The strokes i make with brush tool are always continuous so it should be a hw problem. Maybe shitty drivers. What do you guys think?

Hey look, it's some random drawing I did.

How is it?

>>2489692
>Hey I just tried to solve my Rubik's Cube.

>How is it?
S-Sticky desu?

>>2489689
try manga studio, thats what i use, the lines are pretty good, the photoshop gives me crappy lines, but im guessing iphotoshop would still be better for actual painting, but for linework i think manga studio is better.

>>2489692

It is atrocious. Read the sticky.

>>2489692
>>2489702
>what this anon said
also read loomis

>>2489672
yea, find yourself a glove that's made for working on digital art. Bonus: now your palm won't be picked up, even if your tablet already claimed it didn't...unless you're using a tablet to pc screen type tablets (what would you call the distinction?) then a cotton glove would probably work. I've been using a plastic grocery bag ripped and stuck to my palm as a stand in while I wait for my glove to arrive.

first try in oil, i had only four colors
how can i improve depth in this kind of background where there is no horizon etc.
also what do you think on my color choices? forms of objects? i don't want answers like "it's shit" just explain why is it good/bad

>>2489827
There's always a horizon.

>>2489831
how can there be horizon in the pics when you don't have ground/water body/ or any point of refference like in pic i posted?

>>2489831
on a second thought maybe furthest cloud can be considered as the refference?

>>2489831
Is horizon and eye level the same?

Random question:
An ideal man is 8 heads, his middle is crotch area. While an average man is 7.5heads. Where do you take out the 0.5 of the head? do you just draw every part slighty shorter and achieve this effect. Or you draw his legs slighty shorter or upper body slighty short?
The same thing about women ideal women is 7.5 heads. So which parts i need to shorten to make there more realistic. Obviously everyone always raving about women with long legs, so im guessing women with disproportionaly long legs can be construed as more sexy? This feels like fucking science to me.

>>2489642
>>2489643
gj on the rotaite

Is that really ideal proportions, her hips/waist are to narrow, shoulders to wide, tits to small to lowly positioned. She definetally isnt ideal proportions for me.

>>2489906
Ideal is probably a bad choice of words on his part. "Standard" would have been a better term. Of course, standard wouldn't fit today either because everyone's obese.

>>2489058

i know this is wrong, particularly the bottom jaw, but im not sure how to fix it.

>>2489906
>>2489906
this is much better for example, also well his man is much better proportioned desu, i feel like he downploayed women to not look like sex maniac or he liked extremely skinny women

>>2489906
My prof, upon giving us these images, mostly gave it to us as a guide for height more so than anything else.
This is also an old ass drawing and probably what was considered ideal in proportions back then is different from now. I pretty much agree with you on the shoulder and hips thing. However, the breasts are fairly okay. They sit differently depending size.

First ever attempt to draw anything in photoshop. Any critique?

>>2489931
ye, i feel like i can just draw female 8heads tall, make 4, 4 distribution, nipples 2head down, shoulders hips around 1.5 each. And it would look fairly good and ideal.

>>2489932
Your shadow is on the right but your highlights are also on the right side of the body.
Otherwise just looks like standard 15 year old animu drawing.

>>2489932
I literally have no idea what's going on

>>2489936
Thanks for heads up on shadow/light. I missed that completely.

>>2489911
No according to him this is ideal women same with ideal man being 8h. his normal man is 7.5h. So im guessing his normal women is 7h. So im 100% this is women which he rates above average. Which is pretty sad. Though it might be because back then women also did manual labor a lot more so they might have had more developed shoulders, be a lot skinners since a lot lower calory diet etc?

loomis 9.5h fucked up real bad

just a lil doodle of my fursona

They always end up with some jew nose

You know of those drawings people make just before they start studying so after a time they can look back and see if they have improved and see how much they have improved?
Yeah, I attempted one and this is the fucking result.
Should I kill myself and give up before beginning or do I have some sort of hope and should start studying?

>>2490044
its alright, but far to messy, also study anatomy.

>>2490042
the nose isn't the problem, the eyes and the mouth are

they seem to be misaligned with the rest of the face

>>2490053
thanks you are right i fucked up the eyes really bad

>>2490053
to be fair the nose is NEVER the problem.

>>2489695
so bm

>>2490013
cute, would fug

>>2490013
autism, would murder

Is the nose right inbetween the eyes?
I mean, seriously - this is not what I actually see many times IRL.

My teacher just took a shit on my drawings when he saw that I've had dozens of papers with that mistake.

I was extending the nose width by a bit less than 1/4 of the eyes.

>>2490198
>Is the nose right inbetween the eyes?
Where the hell else you think it should be?

Been reading fun with a pencil and I'm enjoying it far more than keys to drawing. Here's what I've done so far
Feel like skipping keys to drawing since its so dry

idk why i bother drawing other people´s OCs
critique would be nice before adding in colours or anything

>>2490270
Your anatomy is all over the place.
The bent arm is significantly longer than the other one.
The head is too small, making the face too small and everything squished. Squished features tend to make a face look younger. The body looks older but the face is too young.
The head is not sitting on the neck properly. If you were to draw a skeleton there it would be bent very oddly.
The hat is also not really sitting on the head properly.

>>2490277
ok gonna do a new lineart for the same design and push these changes more on the updated edition. thank god for places like /ic/( coz i mean sometimes you do not just notice shit like this by yourself & IRL ppl say everything looks good so its really hard to actually improve (^:

>>2490270
sticky

ready for loomis senpai. its gonna b lit

Drawing a bear/owl hybrid. This is only the rough first draft i'll polish it up then do it digitally but i'm really struggling with the "feet" i'd prefer something more bear like but honestly if anyone has any notes refering to this as a whole i'd be quite grateful

>>2490198
Touch your face!

i'm goona draw 100 skulls in diverse angle this week any good site showing 3d skulls?

>>2490400
http://www.anatomy360.info/skull-sketcher/

Am i loomis ready?

>>2490400
SketchFab is a 3d model library website. There's a bunch of skulls and heads and stuff you can rotate in 3d space there.

>>2490450
resize

>>2490465
its not even 1k mb.bruh. you want 800x600?

I've been trying to get good for the past two years but I never constantly posted to /ic/, mostly just used it for resources. Problem is that means I don't know what level I'm currently on. I don't want to post in a real thread and get told to fuck off to the beginner thread, but I also don't want to post here and seem like an asshole because I'm not in the beginner level anymore

1 day 20 skulls

>>2490499
Not bad

This doily is kicking my ass.

>>2488700
Somebody can fix my draw?
i cann't see the errors, help me please

>>2490503
Goodness... Think of ellipses for the doily, you managed the cup handle ok.

Oh my God I'm a retard and didn't see this thread.
In any case, whats the best way to practice shapes?

>>2490498
>2 yrs
I've been here for about the same amount of time

If it is an exercise just post it in the beginner thread. I posted in the old beginner threads till people stopped responding to me / told me to get out.

If it is in anyways animu related post it in the alt thread - they are more tolerant of my garbage.

Personally, I've never posted in the draw thread because I'm too intimidated

Whatever you do, don't make your own thread...

>>2489630
Is this all you did this week? Try to draw more next week - like atleast 4 figures a day

Also, just use grayscale for now instead of worrying about colors

What's the first step I need to take to not be shit?

>>2490381
Bear + owl = chubby hippogriff

>>2490575
grow the ligameme

>>2490577
Reposting because I can't flip photos.
What's the first thing to practice?

>>2490580
practice reading the sticky

>>2490584
fuck off meme spouter

>>2488707
you're drawing flat shapes and symbols with no thought about dimension.

instead of doing just a close up detail of eyes, try to draw the entire head in its most basic shape and think about it in 3 dimensions, and you'll have a better idea of where your eyes should rest on the head and what shape and size they should be.

specifically with your eyes right now, the left eye is tilting down on the outside, and the right eye is tilting down on the inside. the left eye is also significantly larger than the right eye (based on iris size) which gives the impression of a 3/4 profile, yet the features are arranged as if the view is nearly a straight frontal portrait

sorry about shitty redline but you should at least be able to recognize the shape, size and orientation issues with your eyes

>>2490580
>first thing to practice
Draw more than one thing

The second step is draw more than 2 things...

And so on and so forth...

At step 10000 you will be master. See this thread for more details >>2487706

>>2490589
I'm a meme spouter because you want to be spoonfed? LMAO

read the sticky and start your fundamentals. then come back in a couple weeks with your specialized questions rather than "somebody hold my hand on this journey where do i start xd"

>>2490576
I suppose so, what are your thoughts? ( as you seem to know more than i on this)

>>2489834
by "there is always a horizon" anon means that there is always a series of vanishing points at which all things would meet at a distance. you can use these vanishing points to apply perspective to distant objects, like the clouds or the sun in the back of your image, and you can use that sense of distance to relate objects to one another.

for example, the sun is the furthest away object in this picture, and would be applying light to the backs of the rest of the objects in the image because of that. the next closest object is the series of clouds, which in this image all appear to exist on the exact same plane and have no depth, because the size and level of detail that they have is all identical. using a series of vanishing points or a horizon, you can place the clouds at different distances behind the unicorn and give them different levels of detail to imply their location.

>>2489837
the viewers eye level, yes

>>2490503
draw very light perspective lines to maintain sizing and distance, and dont be afraid to erase and redraw something that you havent gotten right. dont work one object at a time and fully fill in the detail, draw the whole scene in rough simple lines to get your scale down before you move into detailing

>>2490499
How's that pencil familia? 7mm or 2mm? Been looking into getting one. I'm sick of sharpening fucking pencils only to have the tip immediately break

>>2490617
how hard are you pressing down...

>>2490602
The front legs of a hippogriff are talons, and the wings sprout from the shoulders.

So in a similar fashion I might imagine your owl talons to take the place of bear paws in the front.

>>2490541
nobody want help me?
i die

>>2490594
It was supposed to be a 3/4 view. I was just following one of the exercises in keys to drawing
I didn't bother to do the rest of the face because it was never my intention to. I get what you mean though anon. 3D is 2hard4me
I've moved on from keys to drawing and am reading fun with a pencil. Loving this book way more
I posted >>2490262

>>2490625
>I didn't bother to do the rest of the face because it was never my intention to

thats the problem, drawing 40 sets of eyes like a bored high school student isn't ever going to get you anywhere, because eyes drawn in a face are never removed from that face. to properly understand where the eyes sit on the head, how they are oriented and their shape and size in perspective, you have to understand how to draw an entire head or at least the framework of one

>>2490622
Not very hard. Sometimes the graphite is broken throughout parts of the pencil

>>2490632
Yeah it's pretty much why I moved on to loomis. I always had trouble with placement of facial features
Thanks for the help anyway. I'll grind loomis for a few weeks then draw an actual head and face of a real person to post for critique

>>2490565
yes i stopped using color half way tru after some anon already told me. The amount seems low but i also did anatomy bone study, proportion study, tried gesture drawings..but ye i prolly need to use your adwise and draw atleast 4 full figures per day.

>>2490450
The pupils are way too small, the eye on the left looks really bad, right one is beter i guess. Your lines are shit as well. They are shaky and rushed. Don't draw like you have parkinsons, think about every single line before you draw it. Ask yourself whether that line helps show form, if not then don't fucking put it in. Like the shit above the eye on the left, you wanted to shade it but instead you made that whole place completely flat because those lines don't follow the form they are just lazy, rushed scratches. Also next time finish your drawing a bit more the eyes are just hanging in empty space for the most part at, either finish the area around the eyes so that there is a bit of context to them or just draw eye studies this is just lazy and rushed.

the colors on this were unusually hard to pick. oh well the details were fun to figure out though

>>2490655
wow those are some nice color skills. what was making it hard to pick them up?

>>2490671
it was really just the big trees on the island and the tree next to cabin. had to color pick those. for some reason i couldnt getting around to checking parts of the palette I havent used before. but for example the reflections in the water also have subtle difference in color that are easy to over look.

>>2490655
looks good, your sunset is out of order though. in your reference its pinkest at the bottom, orange, fades into an almost green color very temporarily and then into a pale pale gray blue. yours goes from a lip of pink at the bottom, orange, pink again inexplicably, and then a darker blue with some purple shades. your pine tree is a bit too blue on the needle highlights as well. the other major thing i think is that your bridge is significantly larger/wider than the reference. other than that though nothing really stands out to me as a huge deviation, nice work

how is it?

crit

>>2490747
Here I fix it for you.

>>2490747

>>2487776 you're welcome

>>2490758

I thought beginners are supposed to stay in the beginner thread? I thought stylization threads were more for the intermediate. I guess I'll go there, then.

>>2490756

Thanks for taking the time to do that. Means a lot.

>>2490756

oh, and what software did you use to edit that? photoshop I presume?

>>2490760
There are a couple people in the beg threads that will critique you but more often you'll be a little more welcomed in the alt thread because all we do is jerk off over loomis.

How do you go about linearting curly hair?? I don't even know where to start.

How do you go about linearting curly hair?? I don't even know where to start. I assume you don't draw each individual curl.

>>2490044
dude weed lmao

Anybody have any pencil shading guides? I can't do too much harder or else it looks like blob.

>>2490758
Please fuck off

>>2490862
Fuck shading man study some fundementals that jaw is fucked.

how do i into skin

>>2490902
by having background colors

>>2490872
>>2490862
the whole face is utterly misplaced, look at that ear. Go watch some proko tutorials how to draw head

>>2490918
He's facing down in this picture. I guess I couldn't get that across either.

Hi!
Is this thing any good?
I went through it quickly and it seems legit and good. Should I commit to the course fully or only do some parts?
http://drawabox.com/

>>2491005
A pretty decent beginner course. Takes a lot of what Peter Han teaches into a concise manner, but don't get obsessed with it. Especially as a beginner, try to branch out to find as many compatible resources as possible.

>>2491023
Cool ty, any recommendations?
I was also thinking Sycra and ctrl paint for some stuff

i really hate the way i shade but don't know how to improve it

>>2491048

critique pls

>>2491050
>tfw you will never ahegao peace sign her
why live

does this look too much like furshit?

>>2491203
whoops why was it flipped

Sketched Diogenes from Raphael's School of Athens.

Please critique. I know the hands and the feet especially are shit.

Also I have like no idea how to go about the face, particularly the eyes.

>>2491235
why does aristotle have an ipad?
>>2491204
>>2491203
let go of drugs.
>>2491050
you are subconsciously removing tilt from head because you're used to it.
>>2490541
cant be fucked to red, but you should fix your hand (bigger, form), your belly button length, your hips ( top heavy girl), your elbow ( use reference) and your arm insert.

Finally, the hidden shield arm is fucked. you couldnt hide it like that.

PS: did you use a 3d program for the shield?

I'm 18 and just finished my first semester at a community college just taking general classes.

Is it too late to start taking animation and applied arts classes? I'm not a complete beginner, I've been drawing amateur stuff since I was 15.

>>2491240
>Is it too late
Yes

>>2491240
>Is it too late
No

>>2491240
>Is it too late
Maybe

>>2491240

>>2491240
>Is it too late
I don't know

>>2491239
haha I'm not on drugs, here it comes with a death sentrnce

>>2491240
I'm 25.

any crits? i've been trying to learn from my other works by myself, since noone really replies to my posts.. i tried to block in bolder amounts of colour. but i'm a bit worried about my colour choices and if they're striking enough and if you can feel some perspective out of it. i should probably tweak the background colors to be a bit less saturated, etc. currently wip.

>>2491288
Get rid of those lines / make them blend more.

are there any butt tutourials

>>2491240
Too late for what?

Loads of people have a crisis around 30 and start doing something different. You're barely an adult yet (which isn't meant as an insult) and you're worrying about it being too late? C'mon, man. Calm down, take the classes if you want to take them. Drop some of the time spent on non-drawing hobbies/lazing around and draw with that time instead. You'll be fine.

how 2 improve?

How badly did i fuck up?

>>2491320

Keep practicing fundies (gesture, anatomy, etc),

>>2491326
Any suggestions for excercises to practice these?

This took me 30 minutes. A lot of that time was spent erasing mistakes. Can I keep practicing portraits like this, or is that not an effective way to improve?

>>2491332
portrait isnt the best place to start practicing. Practice line for line what you see in the picture. Stop drawing symbols start drawing shape if you cant get it right, read some books, watch some tutorials.

How do I stop drawing chickenscratch lines?

>>2491351
by stopping drawing chicken shit lines?

>>2491261
oh. Then you can leave highschool.

finished keys to drawing.

Now i learned i can't do form for shit.

repeat the book or can i grind drawing and shading human skulls using skull sketcher as my reference.

>>2491356
whats the point of sketching skull? Does it gives some kind of extra advantage over just drawing figures etc?

>>2491373
So that when the skeletons rise up and take over they can find a use for you.

>>2491298
but i feel that that is what makes the drawing any bit interesting. if i'd just make a gradient wouldn't it become plaque and boring?

>>2491373
i wanna learn portraits at the moment.

>>2491382
You don't need to do gradients. Just remove the outlines and it will definitely look better.

>>2491382
Not that guy but I interpreted it like this.

The strokes in the red are too broad as opposed to the strokes in green that look pretty good.

>>2491395
yeah, thanks. i had only partially finished the fabric that was in the green circle, didn't even start with the others.

>>2491391
okay, i'll keep working on it until it doesn't need the outlines. thanks for the input.

Aaaahhh I'm going mad

Gonna start over

>>2491333
Is this any better? I took about 45 minutes on this

>>2491333
Is this better?

How does one distribute line weight effectively? My clean drawings are always so flat.

>>2491467
Learn how line weight affects how close an image appears

Incease line weight when two lines meet, fade out line weight as it falls into a solid area

>>2489069
Bumping this. One of the best crash courses out there.

Besides from the tiny head, any major fuckups here?

>>2491492
Source material

http://imgur.com/NoxGbij

>>2491492
Her abdomen is way too long and you defined her abs way more than what's in the picture. Also looks like you gave her bigger boobs, which, considering her abs, just looks weird.

Generally /fit/ girls have burned all the fat off their boobs.

Hi /ic/, I'm new to drawing, and I've been experimenting with figure drawing. Here are some sketches I've made. Would anyone be kind enough to provide some helpful tips?

>>2491501
Tyvm
>>2491503
Top left has better proportions than the rest, try to get in the habit of drawing that central line more often. It gives every part of the body an anchor and makes the figure more coherent.

Recurring theme in these pictures is disproportionate arms, so maybe work on those.

>>2489069
holy shit this is good
thanks

>>2491492
something easy to fix would the definition of her abs, there are no hard lines on her stomach on the ref image.

>>2491492
You need to be aware of proportions in comparison to other parts of the body. Head's much too small.

>>2491320
Just keep up the good work anon, those are looking pretty decent!

I don't even know what the fuck am i doing i have to draw 100 skulls in this week

>>2491564
>Besides from the tiny head

>>2491404
I amk also trying to draw that face and i am having problems, you seem to have goten the construction right.

>>2491589
love u, ?.

>>2491373
there is a skelington living inside of every figure m8. good luck sleeping tonite ;^)

Looking to get critique on >>2491426

Here's the reference pic.

>>2491655
symbol drawing
>read the sticky
>read keys to drawing

>>2491426
no real sense of construction here

whole lot of symbol drawing

More skull and loomis..

Taking a picture always makes the pencil studies ugly. Well, uglier in my case.

What else is fucked other than the nose?

>>2491787
copy that

>>2491787
In terms of everything else... nose rather fine. There are errors in construction, i.e. the hairline-bridge/bridge-nose/nose-chin guides are completely off. Next time measure carefully and tick off those points, and then build on top of that and it will look much more natural.

Pay attention to your angles. The tilt of her eyeline is not that extreme.

>>2491799
I built it up using abstractions from what I've tried learning of the Reilly method, but I guess I need to practice 3/4 more than straight-forward.

Thanks for the critique, I'll try to fix it.

>>2491787
>other than the nose
It's pretty fucked overall m8, the nose isn't even the worst part by far i would even say that the nose is one of the not so bad parts famalam. The head is WAY too small for that giant neck. Also I think you might have forgotten that a brain has to go somewhere... You twisted her head more than in ref, the eyes are position atrociously in relation to eachother and in relation to the face. The far side of the face is deformed as well.

tl;dr needs more loomis

>>2491804
Fun With a Pencil would be the best one for my proportion mistakes, right?

>>2491773
>All dat chicken scratching

You really need to break that habit anon. Try drawing larger pictures from your shoulder.

>>2491808
i don't even noticed i was chicken scratching
because i was drawing too fucking fast
i'm drawing several year for shit still that habit anyway thanks i'm gonna slowdown and larger skull

>>2491806
That's a book mostly for kids and people who aren't into art. Successful Drawing is the version for adults (figure draing for all it's worth and drawing the head and hands go even more in depth than that if you're a brave little soldier). Or Hampton's Dynamic figure drawing is great as well.

>>2491816
Alright, thank you! I felt a bit silly when I looked up FWAP, and that explains it. I'll go grab those right away.

I've been screwing around with this thing for too many hours and forced myself to finally finish it. I really didn't know what to do with the hair in the upper right so I kind of just left it alone.

>>2491953
>That thumbnail
Looks like a real photo.

>>2491953
hows ur artwork look though?

>>2491982
>fucked up the bottom tit ribcage thing (left)
ahhhhhhhhh

>>2491969
savage

>>2491982
right tit's direction is off (slightly) and feels affected by gravity wrong

>>2491953
image search 'beauty'
what a perfect rendering

Anyone know of videos that explain loomis? I can't understand shit from the books
I'm a pretty visual person when it comes to learning so I need to see how someone else does it to get the concepts through my head

>>2492009
I don't know about videos about Loomis, but there's this guy named Kienen Lafferty who /ic/ will prolly just call a faggot and dismiss who talks about various aspects of digital art and even goes into things like colour theory, anatomy, and two point perspective in an easily digestible manner. He does pictures along with every demonstration, too, so you can watch him work the whole time, too.

>>2491982
For some reason this reminds me of Anna from Outlaws.

How do you actually study figure drawing? Proportions -> Skeleton proportions anatomy -> gesture study -> Anatomy of bone and muscle -> perspective
Would that be correct way of studying figure drawing?

>>2492011
Thanks anon. I'll look into that
Here's what I've done today next to the reference pic. Used the loomis I've learned till now
Honestly feel like the lips and nose are ok for my skill level but I always find a way to fuck up the eyes..

>>2492018
My reference

>>2492009
Proko videos, he uses simplyfied loomis

>>2492018
Welcome, and I see you're getting the basics in for getting the shapes, such as the eyelids, the nose tip, and the lips, but getting them in the right place seems a bit of a challenge-
Anyway, I can't remember what Loomis exactly says on this, but I seriously recommend learning to draw a skull, then just kinda placing things where they go over that skull after you get used to it. It helps you to know how to build up a face from bottom to top, and the more you know a subject, the better you can really create them up in a drawing.

How can i reduce my chicken scratch?
Just draw it slower?

>>2492045
Draw lighter, at least at the start, use longer, more continuous lines, do a sketch, erase it, then go for a more finalised piece?
That's all I got

>>2492042
Thanks anon. I began learning just a few days ago and I myself am amazed by my progress
I do have issue with placement for sure. I will watch the proko videos another anon suggested and see what that does
I noticed there's some kind of site that gives 3D renderings of skulls in the reddit sticky so I'll try that out as well
Hoping I can get heads and faces down soon so I can move on to figure drawing

>>2492058
Welcome, and that's pretty fuckin' impressive for a few days.
Alright, those are good plans.
With figure drawing, I would also recommend starting with skeletons. Also keep in mind contrast. Light lights and dark darks. Fun stuff.

>>2492045
There's a threshold where you draw too slow and it gets squiggly.

The biggest point is line confidence, which eliminates chickenscratch almost in its entirety. But line confidence comes with mileage so keep drawing.

>>2492017
>correct way

anon please. just jumpstart SOMEWHERE, it doesn't matter where and the other pieces fall into place eventually

most people start at understanding anatomy before starting gesture

>>2489398
Fur is hard
Fuck this

>>2492062
Yeah I'm waiting till I can get myself a tablet to start getting serious about shadows
It's a bitch to shadow on paper imo because I can't exactly zoom in on my drawings to erase and darken places that I want to

Reading bammes is very fun yeah can't read german shit but it's very fun to even watching picture it's explain about human body with easly understanding picture and some times i copy it or i'm wasting my fucking time

>>2492084
Ahhhh noice. If you can't get yourself a Wacom, then Huion (or however the fuck you spell it) is a generally good alternative.
A hhh h h y eah - you also can't colour in light so you don't have that many value options.
Oh yeah and if you don't have Photoshop or something already - https://krita.org/ it's dangerous to go with Paint. Take this.

>>2492082
Kek dat eye, you're not observing nigga

>>2492089
Thanks a bunch anon! Wish others in /ic/ could be as helpful as you
I've got a ways to go but I know I can git gud someday. For now I must sleep and live to draw another day

>>2492092
WELCOME-
You must sleep to recharge your artses

>>2489069
>>2491005
>>2492020

Now I know what I'm doing over the next month or so, thanks.

How can i memorize all this shit ton of muscle?
Besides they are moving

>>2492103
Just generally knowing what all the muscles look like. While drawing you pick it up. Don't just memorize them from a book.

>>2492103
Doctors can do it, you can too.

>>2492045
>ZOMBIECANCER

>>2492103
analyse photos, trace over them if you have to

Am I getting decent with planes of the face?

>>2492148
do some studies of static nature before you get into the anatomy of the head and human body in general. I struggle too with them but i noticed i understand it much better if i do alot of studies of objects cubes and understand how volume and shadow works.

It looks below average desu

>>2492045
Draw slower and lighter, yeah. Really I'd say you should make more "confident strokes." If your construction is good then you should have a good idea of where exactly you want the lines to go when you're fleshing it out, and at that time you want nice broad strokes instead of chickenscratching the lines out.

>>2489011
We just did faces in drawing class at college. What made it easy was printing out a black and white picture of your subject and dividing your printed picture and your blank piece of paper into even one-inch boxes and copying the shapes as you see them one box at a time.
Otherwise it's super hard to get proportions exact without the subject being actually in the room with you.

>>2492148
copy that

Though on lower body? i think i draw ass legs slighty to small

>>2492699

>>2491589
Where are you getting skull refs from? Or are these from imagination?

>when you try to draw a whore and you accidentally break her foot, her fingers, hands and other extremities

First digital drawing in years. First human form I hoenstly tried to draft in years. Left the mistakes as they were.

>>2490042

You pupils are not aligned. Oldest trick in the book, to align them along the same line. Try it next time!

>>2492556

The lower body is actually pretty proper. Your problem is that you made the abdominal area too LONG. I think that instead of extending the entire gesture backwards from the waist, bending the spinal column, your brain tricked you into extending the pelvis instead to make it seem longer away/bent.

>>2489453
google erene femjoy or katya amourangels

Week into drawing, Loomis is cool but its not super fun and im not very into reading atm

I've been having fun drawing my old favorite cartoon characters though, is this a good way to practice before i start figure drawing?

>>2494990
I recommend to just draw what you like man. Don't overwhelm yourself with learning too much right now. Learn some basics and beginner stuff and just draw. Its a long fuckin grind so nothing will come quick with drawing.

Pls let me know what I'm doing wrong/right.