/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>procastinate
>procastinate
>procastinate
>procastinate
>sleep

>Drawing something
>Hit a wall, don't know how to draw something properly
>Stop drawing and watch some anime
>A few days later smoking weed with friends
>Come back home all baked, open the drawing
>Just draw, not giving a fuck
>Favorite drawing I've ever done, the only wall was inside my mind all along

If you're a very analytical person, occasionally drawing on drugs will make you improve a lot in one afternoon, I'm convinced.

>>2459589
post the drawing

>>2459604

I'm waiting until it's finished to post it in the draw thread, it still needs coloring

Try out some drugs kids, aw yeah das it mane

>make painting
>hit a wall
>hate the painting
>smoke some weed
>stare at my painting for 3 hours because it's beautiful
>in awe

>Live drawing session
>Take seat next to cute girl
>Start drawing, I'm not pro level or anything but my drawings are much better than hers
>During the break she listens to music, what sounds like a metal band
>Oh shit could this be the one? Good looking, draws AND likes metal?
>Suddenly an asian kid enters the room
>She immediately goes to talk to her all smiling and shit
>No way an asian is stealing my girl
>Sneak behind them to see the drawings of the guy
>He's literally Kim Jung Gi tier
>mfw

>>2459636

>talk to her

him* kek

>Painting something
>Punch the wall
>Stop painting and watch some chinese cartoons
>Smoke weed like a fucking degenerate stoner
>Paint something
>Think it's good because I am drugged
>Later
>Post in /ic/ to delude myself from the reality that my drawing is shit and drugging myself is the worst way to procrastinate

>When you grind Loomis for months and you try and draw from imagination one day and you realize you've leveled up

Best feeling

>>2459636

hi, reddit

>be low testerone cuckold weaboo
>hate my life
>live my life like my favorite anime vampire
>never do drugs cause mom says they're bad
>judge and look down on anyone for doing them
>have no friends in my adult life
>masturbate to underage Chinese cartoons and
mock people on the internet
>will kill myself at 40

>it's noon
>get out some paper
>pencil
>sharpener
>other shit
>all set up at my desk
Now to check /ic....
Oh, maybe a glance at Facebook
>it's 1:30 AM and i haven't drawn a single fucking thing

>lurk /ic/
>buy sketchboo, pens and brushpen
>do basic exercises
>???
>month later still can't into ellipses' and straight lines
>no ideas what to draw, even for reference
>abandon all
>get back to finishing Master of Engineering
>weep and howl inside

>been drawing since a very young age, always good at it
>intermittent art tutors through the years, get even better at it
>focus on (and excel at) realism and graphite portraits
> mistaken for photographs untiI I show otherwise
>mfw I still can't draw ANYTHING out of my head, can only beautifully replicate what I see in photos
>mfw I realize that I'm a talented artist, BUT NOT A CREATIVE PERSON

O_O

>>2459647
wtb that feel time to close laptop for a while I guess

>>2459718

post ur work

>>2459718
>BUT NOT A CREATIVE PERSON
Everyone was creative once, you can be creative. They are not magical powers.

>>2459718
Huh, I never thought that could actually happen. Mostly because I'm you're evil twin, always drawing from imagination. You can always just jam a whole bunch of references together and it'll appear pretty creative.

So many degenerate weed smoker itt. You know weed kills your critical thinking, something which is essential for improving and having taste. Smoke weed and you can't discern good from bad because shit mane everything looks dope! This is why stoner art looks so ugly to everyone else.

>>2459778
yo dude fuck of

>>2459778

True to some extent, weed also makes you see things you normally wouldn't notice, and help you finish a painting and focus a lot while painting. Thinking all weed is bad is just /pol/ retardation.

>>2459778

Nice try you conservative no fun allowed basement dweller, but this "stoner art" was made by a person who smokes weed regularly, does it lack critical thinking? I thought so.

>>2459589
this is good and all but you still need to grind on the fundementals to make any real improvement.
>>2459641
lol confirmed for never done drugs.

>>2459801
>DUDE WHAT IF CAMELS COULD FLY BRO LMAO
yeah ok

> Have ADD
> Starts on ADHD medication
> Less distracted with everything around me
> My eyesight improves
> Can do still life drawing without getting a headache
> Drawing gets a bit more easy
> Life is great

>Have free time for draw
>looking something for draw
>keep looking
>time is running
>dont found no one shit that I like for draw
>go sleep
>free time had gone
>feel bad

>draw a hand
>it's okay
>draw a head
>it sucks ass

Guess I'm grinding loomis for the next few weeks

>>2459810

Try microdosing shrooms, it has the same effect and you won't hurt your body/mind

>>2459823

This is the worst, the hard thing with faces is that any small miscalculation will lead to the character looking retarded, specially the eyes, anyone help?

>can't attend any life drawing sessions anymore

>>2459654
dude weed lmao

>>2459833

I'll take the bait.. why?

>>2459587

My life

>>2459825
Why do people draw Cartoon porn

What's wrong with you

>>2459923

It's not porn, just beautiful naked women ok??

>>2459823
>can draw almost anything consistently to the same level
>faces are an order of magnitude worse than the rest

I can't even copy a fucking face without a grid. Hopefully I can fix this during my summer holidays by doing a whole lot of portraits from life.

>>2459926
That's not how women look like in real life.

It's porn

>>2459936
You watch porn for its realism?

>>2460000
Yes I do, why do you think amateur porn is popular?

Idiot, stay #cucked

>>2459936
You make the most retarded argument because you don't like it.

>>2460026
Why draw like that if there's no way anyone can realistically achieve that look?

It's mysoginyst and degrading to 50% of the population and asses are superior anyways.

>>2460038
>Why draw like that if there's no way anyone can realistically achieve that look?

there's girls that look like that, you should lurk the internet more.
it's not mysoginyst or degrading to enjoy looking at art of large breasted women or stylized women or even sexually stylized women. fucking christ your on 4chan not mormondate.org

>>2460038

I draw like that because I like that style, I can stare at it for many minutes, like listening to a song, try it, you'll end up appreciating it I'm sure.

>>2460038
I knew this was coming. Go be fat somewhere else.

>>2460045
accentuating something feminine is degrading man. in real life women don't get breast enhancements or wear revealing clothing to get attention from the opposite sex. this is pure male power fantasy art.

>>2460048

I don't know about that degrading you speak of but I think the drawings look cool

>>2460050
>sarcasm---------->
>------your head

>>2460045
>>2460046
>>2460044
>>2460050

the baiting is so obvious, why are you faggots even responding?

and don't say just cause. ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>2460044
Name one girl who looks like that.

And yeah it's mysogynist to promote the art since it basically signifies that there are men who view women as objects whose sole purpose is for sexual complacency.

>>2460054
fuck you, lurk gif more. there's tons of females that get breast enhancements or like wearing minimal clothing.
this is an extreme example of what I'm talking about.
>inb4 girls that enjoy sex or being sexy are degenerate

>basically signifies that there are men who view women as objects whose sole purpose is for sexual complacency.
it doesn't signify anything other than men enjoy looking at the female form.

>>2459825
Why do druggies always try to get other people in to drugs?! "Life is great after starting the prescription meds my doc gave me!" "No dude, you should to shrooms instead, trust me, I know this shit better then your doctor!"

>>2460069

If it were any other substance I wouldn't tell him to take it, but shrooms are special, research psilocybin and microdosing.

>>2460069
Why do faggoty anons always get their panties in a twist everytime someone mentions a little weed or pills? Do you feel threatened?

Only guy advocating their drug use is the shroom anon.

>>2460064
First of all, this cunt looks nothing like how porn artists draw women. Her obviously fake breasts aren't J cup balloons, her bony ribs looks like they'll collapse at any second, her face is fat, her pelvis is disgusting and she looks depressing altogether.

>men enjoy looking at the female form
Porn artists don't draw the female form, they draw unrealistic balloon boobs that always point upward, a cylinder waist that looks like the stomach, bones and muscles have been harvested out, gigantic gravity defying thighs that have too much muscle unlike the rest of the body. They are always short (like 5'2) yet their frames are that of a tall woman and they always have no collar bones and no jawlines even though you can't be anorexic without them.

Those porn artist images are NOTHING like how a real woman looks. You're just shaming and berating everyone who isn't an anime character.

>>2460077
I could understand better suggesting something like that if the Anon didn't have good effect of his meds, but they appear to be doing him very well, so the suggestion just struck me as kind of pointless and dumb. And I have an friend (or more like ex-friend) who is pushing weed on everyone they possibly can with every excuse in the book so I guess it hit close to home.
>>2460081
Calm your tits.

>finish drawing of animu girl
>almost no views
>give her a bulging benis
>suddenly becomes a sensation

>>2460110
did you masturbate to her?

>>2460113
n-no

>>2460097
you seem to be an expert on porn art.
pretty simple; avoid it if it bothers you so much.

>>2460148
I can't avoid it because unrealistic porn art is everywhere now. It's here it's in art galleries it's on art forums it's EVERYWHERE!

I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE

>>2460110
Now you're drawing with Shadman !

>work hard drawing from refs
>never skip a day
>pencil, charcoal, digital paint
>can tell im getting better, more reliable hand
>still feel massive guilt because i havent drawn from imagination
>dont know when ill be able to come up with my own story

>>2460153
>I can't avoid it because unrealistic porn art is everywhere now. It's here it's in art galleries it's on art forums it's EVERYWHERE!

I probably spend just as much time on the internet as you and I don't see an overwhelming abundance of it. I'm aware that there's tons of dick girls and furry art but I don't seek it out. you just seem hung up on this particular type of art when you don't have a real reason to.
dragons raping anthropomorphic foxes bothers me so I just avoid it. people are allowed to look at it if they want.
to me it's degenerate but there's some people that feel a connection to it and that is F I N E.

>>2459589
>no money for drugs
>takes melatonin pills to have dank dreams
>its not enough
I have some mescaline, but it takes some time to prep. I think im building a wall for myself by desiring drugs

>>2460167

I've been studying from ref for a few months now, I've promised myself that when I finish the anatomy book I'll only draw from imagination or at least stylizing a lot the reference and using ink for like a month and a half, it's equally important skill to develop.

>>2460153
But it's still not enough. Only when the world is drowned in naked catgirls will there be a bright future.

>>2460179

I almost spend 0 on drugs, just the occassional weed a few times a month, it's better/more beneficial that way, smoking every day will destroy you.

>been drawing since I was a wee laddie
>from my youth up I had always story ideas and characters that I would draw and think about because I was always a lonely bastard, still do and still am
>bit of an snob, looked down on the weebish animu drawing noobscrubs who got their instruction from "LERN 2 DRAW MANGER ANIMEE CARTUINS IN 5 EZ STEPS 4 KIDZ HURRDURR"
>I'm reaching for the stars motherfucker, I ain't having that basic shit
>begin to improve, learn to stop chicken pecking at paper and make confident strokes, learn gesture and construction drawing, find ctrl+paint.com, Andy Loomis, George Bridgman
>lifeisgood
>but suddenly: a wild DEPRESSION and ANXIETY and SELF-DOUBT appear and go texas tea party on my ass
>stop drawing for a little while, but I come back to it
>fucking awful man
>self doubt ensues, too self-conscious and can't break the mold
>have huge problem with staying up all night, because I'm a fucking retard who can't self-control for shit
>find that I can let go of a lot of that bullshit when I'm out of my skull from lack of sleep
>start drawing and improving again
>then comes the texas tea party three and fucks my shit up again

>basically this cycle goes on for a while, get gud and start becoming more confident but for some reason or another keep hitting a wall and quit for a few weeks to a month or longer
>lose the anxiety and depression (oh wait the depression is still there lol) but I'm not a whiny cutting emo fag so I can deal with some blues

>so life should be good
>buuuut never learned to get myself to do shit and be responsible, so now that I'm not in school and the emotional storms are over I hardly ever draw because vidya and youtube and job and shit
>get an art boner when I get tired of that
>but then the bad habits come back
>so my art gets fucked again
>and it's all my goddamn fault

I'm doing a little better now. Still fighting being a lazy, immature POS and I wish I wasn't. I wish I could buckle down and get shit done.

>>2460167
same

>>2459825
Transition her eyes further down/to the right of her face

>>2460185
(Cont'd.)
Enough of the existential BS, let's get down to the fun stuff.

>Draw from imagination all the time
>never take the time to study real life stuff and do life drawing because I'm lazy AF and I know (or think) that I'll be bad at it
>can't leave muh cumfert zone
>can do the figure okay but still can't draw backgrounds
>muh cumfert zone strikes again
>man, when can I ever get to draw real stuff

I'm like the bizarro world counterpart to >>2460167 and it tickles me to no end.

>super cute girl messages me
>message girl back
>paint picture of her
>she loves it, starts talking to me
>hit it off amazingly totally falling for each other hard
>for reasons can't be together
>girl of my dreams

and now I have nothing left to do other than feel sorry for myself.

One that always happens to me:

>Learning to draw
>Fuck why is this so hard how can good artists think about all these things while drawing at the same time? It's like juggling
>Get a bit better
>See drawings of people with lower skill level than me
>Haha look at that shiiiiit is it really that hard to take line quality into consideration?! I cant' believe this isn't intuitive for them!!!

>>2459636
nice

>>2460264
what are these "reasons" anon

>>2460325

He's probably a muslim or some shit

>>2459608
>turd polishing

>>2460325
>>2460329
about 5,500 miles is a pretty big reason.

>>2460342

If you don't start by polish turds, you will always be shit at polishing.

>>2460355
>falling for a chick hard when you never even met her

you should probably trying talking to some girls in your area if your this thirsty. or just jerk off more

>>2460355
how does that even happen

>>2460365
>>2460366
Because if I just wanted to fuck some random girl I would do just that. But I don't because I have standards and some random dumb local girl isn't going to be good enough.

Finding someone I truly like, respect, and can have any sort of engaging conversation isn't an easy task. I'm not going to be with someone because "eh, this is good enough"

Distance isn't the only issue however. Several of my friends have had long distance relationships that have worked and they are all now living together. I feel bad for you guys if you're just with someone because they are convenient and easy.

>>2459608
sound like youre full of shit

>>2459587
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

>>2459718

holy shit are you me. same, I find it hard drawing without a reference, I always look at god-tier art works to feel inspired, combine those kind of art styles and finally be able to draw.

>>2459825
I like cow tits
blog?

>OP makes an offtopic thread
>doesn't get banned

>>2459587
why am I even here.......again

>>2459636
forget the girl, try to get with that asian kid for dem art gains

> find a website with a whole bunch of good high res sketches from sargent
> nice! time to download all of them.
> start collecting
> 1 minute later: Website down for maintenance
> mfw

Just happened. Fucking faggots want to ruin my day.

>decide to get my shit together at the end of the year 2014, move abroad on exchange and stay after
>get a part-time job as a baker
>get a a freelance assistant animator gig
>(trying) to do my thesis
>spend 99% of all "free" time drawing
>feel myself improving
>feel myself getting closer to a burn out
>incapable of giving myself a day off, too much guilt

it's better than being sat in my shitty flat in my shitty homeland feeling exhausted for doing nothing, but I literally can't stop and the stress is building.

>>2460167
I draw from imagination like 95% of the time, only use references when I get stumped on visualizing. Feel shitty for not studying proper references and subjects like lighting, scenery, composition etc but still appreciate improving on gestures, anatomy from imagination and muh style

I've only had a few classes in my life, this is how I've always done it and don't think I can change now. Feels bad being tumblr.

>>2461331
what site?

>>2459585
>hate my job
>still be up all night long despite being beat up
>spend all night drawing using pictures from latest MMA/Wrestling events
>delete the drawing after working 8 hours on it because i have to get to work
>just having fun drawing these things

>be a donkey
>pull cart because there's a carrot dangling from a stick in front of me
>never get the carrot

>Emotionally intense shit happens
>Don't draw for a month like a bitch
>Pick up the pencil
>Suddenly I can create form and perspective from intuition easily and quickly
>Change style with ease
>Churn out my best drawings ever
Anti-rust is a thing apperently

>>2459587

>>2462068
Yeah, that happens to me too. If I wasn't using art as a coping method for all the bullshit I'm dealing with right now, I'd take a month from not drawing as well.

>>2462068
it's life experiences

>>2461970
why you got to give me those feels, ass

>be me
>checking out some art on DA
>it's some furry shit lineart, the anatomy is a bit off though
>so I draw into it with a red color and I write where I think the anatomy is off
>her whiteknight army attacks me because how I dared to draw into her artwork without her permision
>mfw
>I hate furries and weebs even more by each passing day

>>2460097
maybe art is there to allow us to express ourselves and as such do not have to cater to your sheltered views on the world. We can create what ever the fuck we want. So go do something else fgt like go get gud

>>2459585
The shape and width of her torso almost ruins that drawing for me

>>2462224
Maybe you should have asked if she wanted a crit first, or sent it in a PM?

>>2462270
I can understand why it might bother someone, Especially if we consider that I'm not that good albeit i'm light years ahead of her. But she is a grown ass woman, I'm pretty sure she can deal if someone draws on top of her sketch.

>>2462224

Lots of people don't like unsolicited advice, save your effort for places meant for critique / people who ask for it. Just throwing around critique usually makes you sound like an asshole or a know-it-all.
Deviantart is more a place for people to show off what they did and get a pat on the back.

>>2462298
well you're a grown ass man/woman/trans too, aren't you? Can't you understand why people won't take kindly to your unsolicited advice 100% of the time?

tbqh, you sound like a dick when you say 'wow, be an adult and deal with it'

You're on fucking dA. C'mon. At least admit you're looking to get pissed off for kicks.

>>2459589
>Just draw, not giving a fuck
secret to success. of course it's essential to analyze and try to be as correct as possible, but often that turns into "i'm not drawing this right" instead of "i need to do this to this element of the drawing"

>>2459732
Sure. This one's a few years old now, but I'm still pretty happy with it. Photo fuzzed it out a little.

>>2459742
Haha, yeah. I spend my life looking for references if I try to alter an image too much! I'm okay to change up details, or overall style, but if I want to move arm placement for example then it's a major endeavor.

Biggest downside is that I don't showcase my artwork unless it's a credited portrait. I feel like I would need disclaimers everywhere on creative work just because the base concepts are never my own.

>>2461236
Yup. I've come to terms with it. I equate it to being like a screenwriter, re-expressing something in a new way.

>>2459732
Hm, other one cropped weird. Try again...

>>2461301
/fit/ pls

>Draw something pretty cool
>Flip drawing around
>looks like shit

>Painting in class one day
>Friend asks me if i made it from imagination
>"What do you mean? arnt you supposed to?"
>Realized later that everyones drawings/paintings were copy & pastes from famous DA artists
>Guy sitting right next to me literally looking at a drawing on his phone and making the exact same thing but worse
>Teacher is a-okay with it
>This is the future of art
Im the only person making original content in class, should i kill myself?

>>2460185
Just add high functioning alcoholism and this is my life too!

>>Maybe one day I'll succeed and become a famous artist after I die!
>>Or Hitler if I fail?
>>imokaywiththis.jpg

>>2459587
>mfw I came here to get motivated, but end up doing shit

Do good feels count?

>>2462685
>Try and fix it
>Nothing is working

>>2459802
It can be easy to hit a wall in fundamentals too just saying.
Not everyone who needs improvement is lacking in fundamentals either.
Ex: my friend in art school draws crazy well but has a weakness with hands because he avoids drawing them. Fundamentals aren't going to teach him to draw hands. Studying hands will teach him to draw hands. Smoking weed can make those studies more effective depending on the person.

For me i'm better at coming up with ideas and concepts when i'm high but shit at actual execution because my hands don't like to work as well when I'm stoned. So i do all my idea work high, and once i sober up i start on the ACTUAL picture.

>>2459825
You're the fucking reason people don't take me seriously when I suggest they take cannabis to help with ailments.
Most people don't understand shrooms or microdosing, and in some areas they can be next to impossible to get. It's a pointless suggestion.

Weed is better because you don't need the thc to gain the helpful medical effects so people who don't want to get high can still benefit from it. CBD is completely LEGAL in ALL 50 states and can be ordered online, so I highly reccommend people give it a shot for their ailments, depression, anxiety, etc especially if their current meds don't work.

Shrooms won't work for everyone either. I've tried them three times and literally never felt a thing while my friends were all tripping.

They do have their medicinal properties, anyone here who doubts it should do some research instead of thinking of what they learned in DARE, but they're not a viable option for most people. I hope they get legalized to help PTSD sufferers but that's about it.

>Friends always said I was really good and I should go to school for art
>All I can really do is draw boobs and butts
>Couldn't draw an airplane to save my life
>Mostly practice boobs n butts because fuck, it's like my favorite stuff to draw
>Christmas rolls around
>Get my friends and gf presents
>Forgot something for my friends gf who I am also friends with
>Decide to draw her and my friend in different poses
>Keep it more cartoony so her imagination could fill in the blanks n shit like that
>Christmas comes and I give it to her
>"Is... that supposed to be me? Uhh, thanks."
>Tosses it onto a table and leaves it there
>Never hear an opinion about it from her or anything
>Days roll by of trying to figure out what I did wrong
>Start to doubt myself and think my friends were just saying all that stuff but didn't mean it
>Open up one of my sketchbooks and see a drawing I did of a tiny naked girl holding on to the paper with a scared look on her face
>Cheer up instantly

My problem is I just need to practice more, I usually find myself doing absolutely nothing when I could just put a pencil in my hand and go at it. Also my drawing is babby crayon and construction paper-tier compared to the shit I've seen on here so there's no way I could post it here without getting totally dunked on, but I've been trying all the time I can to come here and just see what other people do

Oh and a little story of a moment back in highschool
>Be in art class
>Learning perspective
>Decide to draw a 50's gas station setting
>Almost done with it, actually looking really nice
>This fucking dead-beat faggot who I wish death upon comes up to me
>"Hey anon, what's that over there?"
>Can't believe I fell for it, I look over to nothing
>Look back and see him walking away
>Look down at my drawing
>Giant charcoal strikes everywhere on the paper
>Resist urge to suplex this kid into the burning kiln
>Show paper to teacher and point at said faggot
>He gets no credit and I get more time to redo drawing

>In art school
>Class requires work be submitted online for grading
>Having trouble day before they need to be submitted, camera isn't working, nothing is photographed yet
>Immediately message professor to warn him
>He says no problem, he won't grade mine until i get back to him
>Day after submission date I manage to get a working camera (This is a monday. I just moved to this state so I don't know a lot of people yet so borrowing wasn't an option and no one told me i could borrow a camera from the school on the weekend, I thought that'd only be open during the week)
>As I'm about to submit them I see my professor graded mine
>F
>Submit them anyway and give him a reminder message that I got a working camera and submitted them, take responsibility for not taking my pictures sooner before i had problems, etc
>Teacher is a cold hearted asshole
Right now I'm waiting for a reply from him because everything needs to be submitted for midterms and he listed something required that I don't recognize. Sent him a question asking about it at 2, he invited us to ask questions if we needed to in the same post.

They're due in TWO HOURS and still no reply.

I swear if he penalizes me when HE'S not replying and shit I'm going to my advisor about this. I love him as a teacher, he's great, but he's a real dick when it comes to this.

>>2462256
Agreed... hard to innocently enjoy what is clearly a bimbo-fied miyazaki girl.

>>2459825
artist?

>>2459585
I like your style. You got a blog or something, OP?

>>2463054

Bastien Vivès, this is a character from pic related.

>>2463074
Any of his others books online? Only managed to find one.

>>2459825
Since when the fuck does Marianne have such huge tits.

I too would like to know if some of his books are online.

>>2463205

>complaining about big tits

Since now, you literal faggot

>be at work all day
>can't wait to get home and draw
>get home
>don't draw
>feel bad
>goto sleep

>life going nowhere
>decide to start drawing again
>cute girl I knew from highschool starts messaging me on facebook
>"nice drawings anon, I can draw too, but I'm lazy, if I put in the effort I'd be much better."
>sends me her drawings
>copied scenes from Naruto and Bleach

I think she thinks that copying someone else's art is as good of
a show of skill as drawing from imagination.

>started drawing a few weeks ago
>went to bed at 2am this morning
>set alarm for 10am
>gonna wake up and draw all day
>end up snoozing till 12
>watch 4 episodes of anime
>lay down for another 45 mins
>sit at pc and watch #creative streams on twicth

shit.

>>2463537
Literally me

>>2463537
>>2463563
You will never make it

>attempts a more dynamic pose
>the anatomy and foreshortening is too fucked
>tones back the pose to something more static and simple
>its the pose i've done in my past 10 drawings

>>2463537
Fuck, this is me. Just that I tried to get early to bed to wake up early. I am completely out of rythm. Fuck this shit. Half my life is wasted on sleeping problems.

>>2463705
Just do what I do and go to bed a 5AM when I'm too exhausted to even think.

>>2463710
I would love to, but I have things to do during the day which I can't delegate.

>>2463716
Well, my weekday average sleeping time is about 4 hours so...always enough time in the day if you force yourself !

>>2463726
Doesn't work with tasks where you actually have to think a lot. At least not for me.

>>2459636
>>Oh shit could this be the one? Good looking, draws AND likes metal?


you dropped your fedora m8

>begin drawing
>things looking good
>make a minor fuck up
>try to to fix and move on
>get stuck
>move on
>finish
>Realize i fucked up more things than I originally thought
Fuck my life

>>2463205
are you new to "art"?

>>2463566
nice frog

>find /ic/ a year ago
>motivates me to start drawing
>See improvement, minimal and still not gud, but improvement nonetheless
>go on deviantart one day
>see the autists
>realize I would have been one of them had I not found /ic/

Thank you /ic/, for everything.

>been drawing for fun, shits and giggles
>many years spent just improving at a leisurely pace, not like I'm in a race or anything
>slowly been possessed by my envy of other artists who are either better, popular or both
>realize at that point that I'm now drawing for attention and because I want to be popular or to be better than someone else
>no longer drawing for fun anymore, I have to get better and fast
>been getting upset and frustrated at the rate of my improvement, while still getting mad butthurt of other people's successes

>one day
>wonder where things went so wrong with me as an artist
>been trying to go back to the old days where I just drew for fun
>eventually straight up quit drawing

>>2463900
>been drawing for fun, shits and giggles
>many years spent just improving at a leisurely pace, not like I'm in a race or anything
>slowly been possessed by my envy of other artists who are either better, popular or both
>realize at that point that I'm now drawing for attention and because I want to be popular or to be better than someone else
>no longer drawing for fun anymore, I have to get better and fast
>been getting upset and frustrated at the rate of my improvement, while still getting mad butthurt of other people's successes

>stick with drawing anyway
>leave most of your peers who started at the same time as you in the dust
>most give up, few work as hard
>make it, become respected, get a career in art
sounds far more rewarding than "having fun"

>For every 10 comments saying your art is good 1 says its shit
>Why does that last 1 weigh heavier than the previous 10 comments?

>Be a weeaboo who only draws manga
>Art teacher tells me I'm creative but I need to draw out of my comfort zone.
>Dismiss this advice and continue drawing manga years later
>Post manga like a newfag to /ic/ and get blasted with terminology I have no clue about
>Realise that my teacher was right
>Start doing realism and a few years after that I career change to art and get great feedback from /ic/ and realise I will forever be learning
>I have people introduced to me that are aspiring artists who tell me they wish they could draw like me
>They often only draw manga/undertale bullshit
>I want to crush their dreams and direct them to /ic/ sticky to learn how to draw properly, be nice instead and give them encouragement but direction to local art classes that I personally recommend
>They don't take my advice and continue making the same mistakes, crying about "art blocks" and "can't draw hands but that's my style lol"

I feel like I am watching my life on repeat each time I meet these people.

>>2463944
Because your a fagit

>>2461970
Post work.

>>2462788
Might just be a default grade. He'll probably change it.

>>2463961
>Be a weeaboo who only draws manga
>art teacher obliterates everything i stand for
>basically go into depression because drawing what I want has less value than doing another still life
>draw whatever my teacher assigns me even though i want to die, its all still lifes
>want to burn my portfolio that consists of 90% still lifes and 10% portraits
>hate most forms of academic art studies now
>still do them because maybe one day I can do my anime manga shit with these skills

being academic with art completely destroyed my artistic drive, I mean sure I can draw better now, but I don't have any fun anymore and it kills me because some where inside I want to draw but when I pick up a pencil its just like why bother.

>>2463961
post work

>>2463961
>>2464142
>be super good at drawing animu
>teaches students fundamentals and realism
>they don't want to learn it
>draws super good animu in front of them
>they start to listen

>>2459778
You're retarded
I've stepped away from drawings, had a smoke, and been able to see what was wrong with it
Taste is 100% subjective
Also my friends had this poster and it was hauntingly beautiful in the glow of the blacklight
Shit belongs in a museum
Fuck you nerd

>>2460038
GO BACK TOO TUMBLRRRRR

>tfw you don't have the spark and you'll never git gud

>>2461825
http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search#!/search?artist=Sargent,%20John%20Singer$John%20Singer%20Sargent
0016004019

>>2463838
it's very rare, pls do not steal. was hard to find, sooo small.

>>2463944
Because you know it's true
Keep drawing

>tfw you finally begin to feel the forms after two years
>based vilppu

>Work on something for a year, at last you're ready to post.
>You're accused of cheating, and it's insisted that you pull out everything you have to prove you've worked legitimately. Once you've done this, the accusers have somehow disappeared.
>Everyone that later comes to see the art sees the accusations immediately beneath it and resultantly dislikes all of your art and probably will associate all of your future work with illegitimacy and online drama.
I wish it weren't sometimes necessary to defend yourself in highly charged scenarios when all you really want to be doing is making more art.

>draw something
>oh itt will be the best shit ever
>finish it
>it looks like shit
>look at it half a year later
>eyy that's pretty good

>>2464783
lol know this feel all too well

>>2464783

>reaching that last 5% of rendering, polish, and detail
It feels so exhausting to see how close you are to finishing but knowing it'll take an hour or two before you can call it 'finished'.

>>2462698
No, you should take advantage of that. When a good opportunity comes up and you're competing with the rest of them for it, you'll be the only one with any semblance of creativity

>>2462772
>end up with a disgusting mess of corrections that look worse than the original mistake

>>2463400
You gotta at work, before you get home. On the bus, on the can, when your boss isn't looking. I always keep a pen and a pad of large sticky notes with me in case a chance to draw comes up. The more often you do it, the more of a habit it becomes.

>girl comes over
>asks to see sketch book
>start off impressed
>"why are they all naked?"
>"I'm trying to get good at that first"
>disgusted look
>"pervert"
mfw

>>2465013
you clearly suck at drawing the nude female.

She is suppose to look at your sketchbook and then say "w-will y-you d-d-draw me......like that?"

>>2465035
i have no doubt i do, i'm just not being a pervert drawing them nude

> draw all the time
> alienate all my friends and family
> decline legitimate job offers

I've been NEETing for almost a year and running out of money... I don't want to get a real job ;_; especially now I have no friends or contacts who care about me...

>draw in a frenzy when i'm procrastinating on coursework

>draw at uni between classes
>sit in public and do sketches of people
>they get really uncomfortable because i'm looking at them
>i get uncomfortable because they're uncomfortable

>draw on-and-off
>get into depressed self-doubt mode often, and easily
>end up quitting and coming back again every time
>I know that if I quit forever I'll kick myself in the ass for not having practised when I was younger later on
>I really want to make cool things like comics. I used to love Glen Keane but now my current favourite art styles are Mike Mignola's and the Darkest Dungeon style.
>I never like looking at my drawings
>I never fully finish anything with ink and colour
>I never work on any ideas because my skill won't do it justice
>never post on any gallery site for those reasons
>doodle and try to improve anyway
>I am extremely intimidated by trying to draw what I see IRL or in photo
>when I try I dislike the results
>my poor self-esteem makes it hard to draw because looking at my drawings feels painful
>my friends say that my drawings are appealing but I know they're just being nice
>mfw I could actually become a good artist if I learned to enjoy the process rather than fixating so much on results and shitting down on everything I do

what do i do /ic/

>>2465133

You know what to do, enjoy the process, forget yourself, your lines, your judgment, just have fun and draw and practice from real books like hampton loomis bridgman anthony ryder etc etc study every day 4 hours it's fun!!

Until you can draw pic related

>>2465176

Thanks for the encouragement anon, it means a lot. It's my comfort zone and thoughts that kill me. I guess I'll just try and do that. Draw and draw and draw from books and photos as if it's a game.

I might as well stop tying my sense of self to my sketches, and start posting them here/other places too.

>>2463478
She's just trying to impress you, anon.

You know the Drill

>>2462612
really good anon

>>2460363
That's faggot logic,

and faggots r n't cool

>tfw you realize how much important shit you have to learn in art
>tfw you realize you've barely scratched the surface of all you need to learn
>become afraid you'll never ever learn it and always be shit because of it

>>2465381
;_; I got too late into art

>>2462612

Dude, that's very good. DRAW MORE! Push yourself, I wish I had your skills don't waste them!

>>2465196

"You're not trying to sell yourself, you're selling your work" Just have fun, if you keep at it, you'll become good or has there been anything that you haven't after hundreds of hours of practice? The key is you like to draw so it's not a job for you, so you can practice a lot and people will start paying you, imagine being payed for something you actually like to do!

>>2462770
Yes

>get art block
>friend suggests I try to redraw something 10 times
>find shitty gift art I did
>redraw it a few times
>it gets noticeably better with each redraw

>>2465410

never too late, unless your both arms have been amputated, don't be a bitch. Good luck and post progress often!

>>2465235
>>2465431
Thanks. I admittedly haven't drawn enough the last few years, seems like there's always shit coming up and all my art buddies moved away. Oh, for the days of high school...

>Be mediocre at perspective
>Started getting into 3d sculpting of machinery and architecture
>sketching concepts and trying to build them
>Notice visible increase in working with perspective and planes, setting it up and following through properly when drawing

Should've done this way sooner but it's great to finally get over the plateau.

>"I'm gonna put it all from now on!"
>real life shit happens
>fall down and break
>putting yourself togheter takes some time
>"I'm gonna put it all from now on!"
>real life shit happens
>rinse and repeat
its thirty years that goes on like this.
last time i found myself without a fucking home in february
if it happens one more fucking time, I swear to fucking god I cut my fucking right hand and give up forever
FUCK

>>2465040
no matter what you draw, until your drawings will look good ppl will judge you in a negative way, especially if we are speaking of anime or nudes

>almost a year of drawing
>still can't draw faces properly
>still stuck at basics and no hope in sight
>mfw I just wish I could already be bothered by composition and character design and make cool comic panels

>>2466611
Same feels, but more like three years

>>2466611
I know this feel too well

>>2466611
>>2466617
>>2466815
Stop drawing the same shit. Go to /i/ or FB or Tumblr and take some free drawing requests, faggot. Normies will push you to the edge of your ability just to get some good porn or furfag shit.

>browsing tumblr
>see something I drew reblogged by a popular art blog
>it has a fuckton of notes
>they reblogged it from my decrepit hardly used deviantart
>I got like zero traffic to my tumblr

fug

>think I'm doing good one day
>next day realize how really shitty I am
>not even nearly close to where I want to be
>no idea how to get there
Kill me

>>2466819
da struggle of using multiple sites

>>2466838
It's about the journey, anon!
You'll never get there and that's okay.

>>2466879
I guess it's just seeing so many artists who are pretty close to where they (or I) want to be. Meanwhile I can't even add fucking values to a cylinder or cube. I think it's just stress.

>>2466890
>I guess it's just seeing so many artists who are pretty close to where they (or I) want to be.
Yea, but there is always room for improvement. It will also be 'pretty close', it's never 'I'm there'.
Your standards will always go up.

>get bad artblock
>gradually snowballs into intense self hatred
>can't even get up

>>2459833
arent you that one guy who made a thread asking us why and we couldnt figure out?

>drawing really well for a period of a few weeks
>every drawing coming out exactly how i want
>trying new things and doing well at them
>working on something new almost every day
>suddenly & randomly lose mojo one day
>???enter period of severe artblock???

why does it feel like the worst artblocks happen right around the same time as your biggest artistic breakthroughs :/

>>2466819
Couple suggestions:

- reblog the thing from the popular art blog, mentioning that you're the artist and you have a tumblr. Might get buried in the notes, might not. Worth a shot though

- If you can, start using your dA more, even if just to upload duplicates of the stuff you post to Tumblr, with a link to your Tumblr account

Might be stuff you've already thought of, but thought I'd mention it. Key to doing gud on social media is to make it as easy as possible for people to find and share your stuff, on their own terms, which means linking between social media platforms and trying to keep regular updates on at least a couple of sites if you can

>>2467002

I get the same feeling pretty often, I seem to go on half-monthly swings.
I think a lot of it ties into two things - first, your brain catches up to your new skill level and you're no longer impressed by it. That happens, and then your ride of confidence gets kicked down a notch. Reduced confidence ("my stuff isn't as good as last week.") feeds into frustration which actually can reduce the quality of your art. It stays that way for a while until you normalize (and your stuff just looks average to you) or you hit another breakthrough and it looks good again.

I try to experiment during my slumps. Half the time it just annoys the shit out of me but sometimes switching it up is exactly what's needed.

>>2467053
>I try to experiment during my slumps.

that's what i'm doing now, actually yeah. everything looks like shit, but i realized my outfit design is super bad so since i'm not doing good at anything i'm just doodling/sketching a lot and trying to branch out with clothing design. hasn't really bumped me up at all but at least i'm not stagnating while in a block

>want to be amazing artist
>can't even render a cylinder
I think I'll hang myself now

>just draw, bro

>>2465133
why does no one on ic seem to actually like art??

>>2465013
>"I'm trying to get good at that"
That's where you failed. You failed to explain to her why drawing people naked first is important. It sounds like you want to get good at just drawing naked people because you want to see them naked. Instead say something like "I'm trying to learn the human form and to do that, I need to draw people as they are naturally."

>warmup
>can draw perfectly straight lines

>real assignment
>can't not draw a curve
>multiple retries/re-erases
>ruined the paper

>>2467558
throw your eraser away
find another way to get better lines

>>2467558

Drawing a curve and drawing a straight line is different.

Practice making parabolas - mark 3 points on paper and try putting a curve through them.

>>2467562
>>2467558

Also:

NO PENCIL PEN ONLY FINAL DESTINATION

Alternatively, for digital faggots:

100% OPACITY ONE LAYER FINAL DESTINATION

>artist I like follows me
>message me to say they expect great things
>happy about it
>later realize I'll disappoint them
why live?

>>2459801
Nice, very nice

>>2459587

>Decide i want to be an artist
>I want to make the content that i want to see
>Draw
>Follow tutorials, draw from imagination, find out about loomis and /ic/ and try it out
>Draw a few faces and think y"eah this is great!"
>Post on /ic/ for critique
>Its shit, not how you do it, fag. etc.
Im not butthurt, maybe, but since then i havent posted here. im probably just being a faggot whose afraid of being told im shit. i havent stopped drawing at least i kept at it.

>>2459587
>procrastinate*

>other than that I have the same problem

>actually like drawing furries more than humans

>>2467794
When you start out, it's harder to objectively assess what you draw. Often you'll draw what you think looks amazing, but give it a couple days/weeks and look back at it and you'll be pretty horrified you thought it was good.

>>2468045
Oh i am. problem is i just dont know what to do. i just want to curl up into a ball and sniff markers.ive done all these sheets of eyes and heads like one or two anatomy things but just plflkgft

>really motivated to paint
>paint almost all day for a few days in a row
>satisfied with result for once
>decide to post it online on DA
>no one even sees it because I don't socialise on there
>mfw

>>2460038
>Why draw like that if there's no way anyone can realistically achieve that look?
Draw like that BECAUSE no one can realistically achieve that look.

>Don't often start projects or finished pieces because I always get stuck somewhere in the middle
>Start one recently, sketch, linework, flats look good
>Start to slowly tumble from there on
>4 days of straight painting over myself because it keeps looking off
>Keep trying different things, and no matter what, when I fix one thing another thing goes wrong
>Fall into a depression beccause this has been happening or years now and I still can't fix it
>Having touched it for a couple days now

And thus the vicious cycle continues.
Why live, /ic/.

>>2472984
Live to start again and do better eventually.

>trying hard, being depressed and all
> finally applying to the dreamjob of artist (in a small studio but happy about that)
>relocating and living happily
>learning from other artists and art director how to improve your skills in drawing and painting
>went to the big event where master concept artists told to use 3D if you want to work in industry
>everyone suddenly started to learn 3D
>I'm in the beggining of the mountain again

>>2467370
If she was the sort of dolt that didn't understand why drawing people naked is important then explaining why it's important is just pearls before swine.

>tfw you're not even sure if you're improving

I want to be able to draw like this so fucking badly. I'm just shoving boxes with a vanishing point and trying to make it roughly resemble pic related, for example, but it always just looks wrong. I can't really tell where boxes should go

>tfw you're not even sure if you're improving

I want to be able to draw like this so fucking badly. I'm just shoving boxes with a vanishing point and trying to make it roughly resemble pic related, for example, but it always just looks wrong. I can't really tell where boxes should go

>>2473245
I feel you bro. Being motivated to draw because your end goal is erotica sucks. Keep at it though, because there'll never be enough cute animes getting fucked in the world.

>>2473254
It's not even that. The perspective in this is so perfect, I'm losing my shit. FUCK.

>everyone says draw draw draw a million things draw forever to git gud
>don't know what to draw or not motivated enough at the moment
endless suffering

>>2463693
This. I want so badly to do super dynamic stuff, but it always looks like shit.

>>2473726
they don't have to be original ideas
it can just be a person posing

>>2473988
You have to just keep doing them.
Besides that, dynamic poses can be very simple.
Dancers aren't contortionists.

>>2466611
lrn2construct, Go through vilppus videos and draw along. After doing that twice with a couple months inbetween you'll have it figured out. Ya gotta feel the form.

>>2460110
does this really happen?
should i draw some traps?
does nsfw get traffic simply because?

>>2474735
People are looking for a good fap, you find what the people want and you give it to them.

>>2474741
is it okay to have a variety blog?
studies, porn, fanart, animations? or should one pick a niche?

>>2474752

As an anon who hasn't done much smut and is going based on a guess, I'd say seperate your SFW and NSFW into different blogs. A lot of people won't follow you just because there's too much porn and vice-versa.

You can always link between them if you're not worried about associating one with the other.

>>2474759
ok, thanks!

>buy a book on how to draw
> never use the book

>draw every day
>make a little progress over months
>Still can't into any of the books
>try to but fail at understanding the autors
>realise that I eventualy will stop making progress at all

I fear that day but I try to continue and not worry to much.
Pic related is my latest abomination.

>>2475192
Your "abomination" is better than my best.

>>2474896
I can't even open mine for more than a few seconds.

>find my tablet
>lose my tablet pen
>find my tablet pen
>lose my tablet

They cycle never fucking ends and I want to kill myself.

>spend twelve hours on a drawing
>realise im weaboo trash

>take classical art lessons at local awesome art academy
>notice fast improvement in my stuff
>get hired for figure modeling by a teacher

>3 years

>go to school for pharmacy shit because I never had the confidence to rely on my art for anything really
>meet 12/10 guy, slowly move in and basically become his housewife
>he encourages me to draw and paint all the time but we play a lot of vidya together and it's
>lack of confidence/discipline/not knowing where to start means I've been working on the same master copy for over a year now
>guilt from not just doing pharmacy so I can help pay bills
>guilt from not practicing
>mfw I've been drawn and painted more than I've drawn and painted the last year...
Pic related.

>>2477311
Guilt is a gift

>>2477315
It would be if it meant I'd get shit done instead of curling up with a sketchbook and screaming inside.

>>2477052
Oh yeah? I lost my tablet, had a deadline coming up for a freelance project, and had to spend everything I made from the project to buy a new one.

Then I found the old one.

>>2477454
rip. I found my tablet pen but lost the cord. Ripped apart my room, was about to order a new one and found it.

>>2465443
Well , DESU that's how drawing with your eyes work.I do remember that Feng Zhu said something along those lines and the way to prevent yourself from doing that is to know your fundamentals. Drawing with your eyes is a pretty risky thing to do , you will be able to draw 1 thing but when you will be forced to switch you will be from square 1 again. Unless the thing you are referring to is something related to fundamentals then it's alright. Anyway keep it up bud , don't forget F U N D A M E N T A L S

>draw everyday
>draw because it just became a habit
>have no idea if you're improving or if what you're doing is a waste of time

>middle school, closeted weeb
>a lot of the time I sit in the back of the class and draw cute anime girls
>after school one of my friends comes up to me
>"the teacher has your drawing of some anime chick in her classroom"
>"I don't know what you're talking about"
>shit shit oh fuck, I left my notebook
>go back to the classroom, teacher is absent but a bunch of girls are hanging out in there
>see my open notebook on the desk, quietly move over to take it
>before I can take it a girl stops me
>she takes the notebook and hands it to me
>"I colored your drawing for you."
>the drawing is covered in highlighter ink
>"t-thanks."
>take the notebook and rush out of the classroom at the speed of spaghetti
>from then on I never drew anime again

>>2479156
She wants the D senpai

>>2477090
It's ok weaboo trash.

>>2477311
Nothing wrong with being a housewife, man. Girl. Mangirl.

Anyway, if he can support it and he does support it, he probably thinks nothing of it and is happy. Menfolk are simple in this way.

>>2478878
Does it matter if you're drawing for fun?

>>2479231
>weaboo trash
>okay

>>2460045
Bastien vives tier

>>2472984
I was the same way for a long time.

Until you have really solid fundamentals it's not really worth it to polish your works.
The overall quality won't improve a significant amount and you'll learn less than you would have if you just spent the same amount of time doing sketches.

No use in polishing a turd.


I made a graph to explain.

After the initial quality boost it slows down rapidly and the amount of time and effort required to increase the quality becomes exponentially larger.
Diminishing returns.
This also could be applied to what you learn from doing a piece.

>>2481217
How is quality at time zero any different between the skill groups.

A beginner could have just as good an idea as a master but have no way to execute it.

>>2481225
Not that anon but a master probably has a good composition in mind, while an unskilled artist just has a cool idea that doesn't translate that well to paper.

>>2481225
just imagine it does. :^)

>See thread
>Hundreds of replies
>Fuck that and draw instead

>open up commissions for first time
>nearly 0 interest
Whew.

If five guys could escape soviet prison and walk 6500 km to India with just what they were wearing, you can finish your drawing.

>>2461333
Are you me?

>moved to england
>work as a baker
>work as freelance graphic designer
>studing my ass off
>thought i was happy, im doing what i love.
>Just had a burn out, work load too much only sleeping 3 hrs a night (Other factors came into play) Didnt pick up a pencil for two weeks

Just flew home to Australia so I can calm the heck down and get back to living.

Dont push yourself too hard man, its not worth it.

guys I don't know what to do
>>be a decent artist not the best but I get at least some attention on all of my drawings
>>get a new follower they're clinging to me for dear life
>>to the point where I get spammed with messages from them constantly
>>they reply within the hour
>>they ask for ways to improve
>>start by saying your PICTURES OF DRAWINGS are a little blurry
>>bloo bloo bloo these were the best I can get
>>bullhonkey they look like you photographed them through saran wrap
>>regular photographs are clear
>>It's the camera's fault!!
>>try using a scanner?
>>ITS BROKEN IT SMOKES

one goddamn excuse after another, why bother asking then???

>>2479233
but she's not

>>2477311
my art life has been a chain of evrika moments, always finding new things to motivate me and push me to the next level. there are many things which I could say, but I'll choose the latest one for me:

>LOVE THE PLATEAU

if you want to git gud, you need to put in millage, which means hitting a lots of plateaus, so why not love it? whenever you feel like doing something else, tell yourself that

>LOVE THE PLATEAU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv9Inby5Ehg

>gradually building a daily routine
>stack up various exercises
>man, this feels like it takes a lot of time, maybe even 20 minutes!
>check, it's over an hour
>I didn't even progress to figure drawing and other shit like that yet, which will probably extend the session to 2 hours a day

How am I ever going to sustain this? If I don't do something daily I slip.

Anyone else here learning to draw mostly to make memes?

>Going into medicine, so I know I can never do large projects like a manga
>Impressing people IRL is nice but you can't really do it on a regular basis so that's not worth the effort
>Had somebody repost my OC a while ago, felt amazing
>Only place on the internet I like is 4chan
>Already have ideas for art project that will guarantee a massive amount of (You)s
>Just have to git gut so I can actually draw them

>>2459825
Source. Those are some serious knockers.

jesus how is this thread is still up? it's almost a month old now.
anyway good thread desuphams, keep on drawing.

>>2460185
This is my entire life
Except my depression is gone cause I took antidepressants

>>2459585
>getting the odd contract gig
>finish a gig
>sell some art at a show
>get preoccupied buying a new motorcycle
>haven't touched Photoshop in over a month
>can't find a job

It's time to try painting again, I guess.

>>2462612
I hope you're at least mashing up different photos because otherwise you're work is just the photographers work.

> new to drawing
> been at it for a few months now
> boxes look lopsided still
> know what I am doing wrong but can't execute the fixes yet

>>2484789
This. Im replacing the black Trevor on the new Wonder Woman book with the regular blonde one. I need to re edit every panel and re draw every face to take out the negroid traits.

Everyone mad at it. Best part it doesnt even make sense story wise because he talks about slavery and his ancestor and that shit.

The amount of (you)s I will farm will get me through winter.

>>2459801
>photo studies
>critical thinking

>only feel the spark during 11-3am
>put on some headphones and start sketching
>time doesn't exist when it's dead at night
>energized, motivated, even a little excited
>get to fill up a page or two, start getting ideas, shit's coming together slowly
>SO eventually comes looking for me
>"when're you gonna come to bed it's really late "
>godfuckingdammit

Why do I only get into a flow late at night? Other times don't feel as productive and have to really force it too

>check out some threads on CA after searching for Nicolaides book
>curious about "Jobs" tab
>click it
>tons of offers
>unpaid opportunities
>unpaid
>unpaid

There is a guy on the front page that wants someone to design concept art for his new product (desk-sized personal heater) with several views from different angles and with high number of details.

There are also guys from "indie guy studio" who seek artists and modellers and guys who know C++ that are willing to work for free. Oh and in skills there's "Skype" because they communicate through Skype, but they don't require microphone.

Is it how artist job market looks like? Why are you guys even try to become professionals? Also you said CA is a serious site with people who have some skill.

>>2486117
>Is it how artist job market looks like?
It doesn't.

CA isn't where you go to look for work.

If you don't have contacts your best bet is to monitor the websites of companies you're thinking you'd like to work for and see if they advertise for vacancies.

>studying all day, all night for the past month
>gotta pass those engy tests
>art skills stagnated
>too stressed to exercise
>too stressed to be able to sit down and draw
>frustrated at my lack of progress
>frustrated at my lack of energy
fuck, and after I'm done with these tests I've got a year in the army ahead of me.
Goodbye, art gains.

>>2485939
That sounds amazing.
I'm probably going to draw guro and bullying content of anime characters. And happy content for characters that get bullied or cut up.

>working on a promo image for a game
>pretty proud of it, to the point of thinking of asking the art director when I can publish it in my portfolio
>art director keeps asking for nonsensical and contradictory revisions that are, to put it mildly, in bad taste
>don't want to put the final image in my portfolio anymore

>>2459585
>work on something for days
>Already tired of working on it and want to draw other stuff
>Cant because if you did other things the main drawing will be in your drawing backlog
>aka I'm not finishing this shit
>So you stare at it, angrily

>>2459587

>>2488885
>try to step up and make something great
>work for weeks
>it's shit, not even you like it.

>>2486155
I know how you feel, I've got two years in the Navy with stupid long work days before I can finally get out and spend real time on art. Should never have signed a six year contract.

>>2486155
When my shit was on fire i used art as ultimate for of escapism.
If you can think that your life is falling apart at the moment - you're not drawing hard enough.
Just concentrate on drawing to forget the stress.

At that time i was drawing the hardes, the best and was actively developing.

>>2488893
I'm liking it so far.
I have the blessing of being able to delete big detailed parts pf my drawing if it seems off, without killing myself. But god damn, this thing is taking WAY longer than I thought it would.
That shit's just staring back at me, unfinished, I'm fucking tired mang.
/blog

>>2473726
fill a whole sketchbook of the hand you don't draw with. You always got a model to draw anon. Draw you.

>>2486117
>seek artists and modellers and guys who know C++ that are willing to work for free

I want critiques or someone to rip my asshole

I barely fucking get them at all, I really want people to criticize my studies.

Also I get more of a chance of critique when I post my animu but the only comments I get are "study bro lol"

I tried going to other sites but they all ignored me too.

/vent

>>2459585
> practicing proportion of the face
>always looks shitty
>use Loomis head and hands as measurement guide
>still looks off
>change mind set from drawing "a female head" to "drawing a sad 25 year old aristocrat"
>drawing looks way better

It turned out that my problem was I was drawing generic female or generic male as soon as I thought of an expression and a character it became easier to drop sketch after sketch which made practicing from imagination fun again

>>2466261
this is life anon

>flip horizontally

>>2459587

>>2477090
not bad but the proportions and perspective are kind of strange, makes their far arms look really thin and tiny

>start trying to get serious about art
>use /ic/ for resources and early critique but don't post much once I get the ball rolling
>think I've actually gotten good 1.5/2 years down the line
>too afraid to post on /ic/ because I didn't post my progress and I don't even know what level I'm at and don't want to get ridiculed for over/underestimating my ability

>>2490521
just post your work god damn you.
>>2489580
genius. saved.