/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2432741
related refs are also welcomed

>>2432741
i know these are pretty shit that's why i need some good ones, thanks in advance guys

>>2432741

>Zedig

>>2432741
posting Morrowind design

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>>2433162

I absolutely love everything Kinako does.

My absolute favorite fighting game design.

Random japanese artists on twitter.

>>2433385
God, she was the reason why I dropped that show within 15 minutes.

>>2433423
jerks my dick x200

>>2433423
>>2433468
what a load of edgy dog shit
lmao

>>2433397
That's really cute, source? Google doesn't give me anything.

>>2433472
>not liking hot demon fuckbois
fag

>>2433503
Someone else posted it here and said it were a random twitter artists. I think people were saying it was mucknagabe's work.

JoJo is a goldmine

>>2433420
But she was the best part of the series.

>>2433523
>CAT'S FOOT
>IRON CLAW

>>2433519
I scrolled everything through, couldn't find it. But yeah, it definitely fits his work.
This guy sure has a thing for birds...
Anyways, some really nice stuff there ,thanks.

>>2433616
I'm more curious as to what the moon speak says on the side.

some of the previous reference threads had good character references. some of those threads are still up, though you can dig through the archives if theyre not.

>>2433664

Can we get some "cute" characters inspiration up in this please?

>inb4 ovopack

>>2433709
mucknagabe bird at the top? find more. I love cute birds.

>>2433709
Who?

I believe these are in the sticky, but just in case:
https://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
https://www.pinterest.com/joshcalloway/
https://www.pinterest.com/pixelmonstah/

What are some things about character design that you wish tutorials would cover, but either they skim over it or they just don't cover it at all? I'm doing a character design workshop in a few months. Obviously I'm going to cover the basics and my own personal tips and tricks, but I'm worried I might not cover somethings my audience might want to know because it's become second nature to me.

>>2433927
wow. you seriously need Loomis. The legs are too long.

>>2433938
Not my art, but we can go even longer!

>>2433420
you and me both

>>2433524
it sucked and she sucked anon.

gotta dump my favorites so far

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>>2433996

more like that please!

>>2433783
dont get me wrong, hes awesome, just well known already

>>2433724
dont forget ashcozy

>>2433163
where the fuck did this come from, its shit.

>>2434459
Oh, that was the artists' name. Thanks.

can we get less anime and more modern/classic western cartoon style inspirations?

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>>2434626
my diiicckkkkkkk

>>2434676
The artist is Yoh Yoshinari

>>2434626
Oh wow, I think that one with the X is a comic I read when I was in middle school. I wanna say Annabelle? I drew her once in doll-form when I was like...probably thirteen? Maybe fourteen? Memories...

>>2434667
Was about to say the same thing. I have nothing against anime and the designs being posted are just fine, but we need some variety here.

Oi, what are some good books available on the fundamentals of design and visual communication?

>>2435335
>inb4 skilful huntsman meme

>>2435335
Sadly none.

>>2435335

Nothing besides researching golden ratio/ sacred geometry and neoteny on your own

>>2436525
>neoteny
Its not just about 'cute' its about being able to communicate all stereotypes, cute, sexy, fearsome, goofy, etc... And all of that can be done by the overall use of right visual cues.

Its something thats rather well stablished in our brains to recognise those traits right away, yet I dont know of any book that would list them and go more in depth.

>>2436534

I assumed the dude was asking within the context of anime, sorry. You're right though.

Of course it's all anime, rufflelamo

This board sucks.

>>2436534
That's a shame. Books about the technical aspect of art all center around ways to interpret reality and recreate it from that, and it seems kinda odd that such an approach hasn't been outlined or detailed for design/visual communication and picking up on visual cues beyond horns and halos. Maybe it really is that simple, and all it takes is work after you have the theory.

Think he'll ever release a How to Draw book with his style? Love to capture/mimic his style in almost every way possible.

>>2433938
>you arent allowed to stylize
>art has rules

>>2434667
Post them yourself then faggot.

>>2437199
Then post fucking fag

its whiny lazy assholes like you that make this board shit.

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>>2437388

what logic is this

>>2437427
"Be the change you want to be"

.Please take a moment of your time to help purge christchan.
All attempts to contradict this post will be treated as christchan samefagging on full damage control mode.

>link to picture related:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1AXep3wKV1Sf_lwYcAIhKZFGrGtHXGJDk6vTlIKuiM3M/viewform

>christchans patreon link that you need to fill the report form out:
https://www.patreon.com/christchan?ty=h

>>2437444
Why for hate speech as opposed to harassment or something? Are you some sort of liberal faggot?

>>2437450
no, just any excuse that will get the SJWs over at patreon to take money away from christfaggot.

>any effective tactic to make sure the cancer dies.
>social chemo if you will, its still poisonous but better than that faggot.

>>2433664
>>2433670
i love mignola

>>2437199
>oh no, good asian artists who destroy my false sense of superiority I have towards muh animu. TRIGGERED

>>2434004
saved all these

>>2433420
she is way I kept watching it.

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>>2437825
http://sketchchump.tumblr.com

Does somebody know of good motherly characters? I sure could use some inspiration.

(no goatmom meme please)

>>2437231
This man is a beast, makes me jealous of the people I went to school with now working at Disney.

Genndy Tartakovsky is ridiculously good.

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>>2437826
Holy fuck, these are cute!

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>>2437957
I'm kind of excited. The animation courses I'm taking in fall, several students have graduated and are now working under Disney. It's not even a special class, just some community college, but everyone says their animation department is legit.

Why didn't you go after your dreams, anon? It isn't too late. You should have people jealous of you!

>>2433148
what

>>2438047
What school faggot?

I'm finally getting to do some character design in one of my classes after legit doing nothing but watching movies in class the past two weeks (Literally. We've done that and write a story).

>>2442127
Man I fucking hated that movie

>>2433156
My nigger.

>tfw there will never be another rpg with such an autistic attention to detail like Morrowind.

>>2442152
those curves holy shit

>>2442130
what was the name of this series again?
image search fails

>>2444010
Wakfu?

>character design inspiration
>Bunch of Weaboo Shit
why /ic/ is full of crap?
I know that it always been this way. But why every character design/cartoon/stylization on /ic/ becomes a retard fest of weeb cartoons?

Character design my ass. All you want to do is to draw lolis and edgy weeb-warriors with anime weapons.

>>2444040
Be the change you want to see in the thread. By posting western art.

>>2444040
I really prefer the asian art being posting in this thread over stuff like
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>>2444206
>2016
>still being a weeb unironically
>Still refusing to believe that waifufags and weebs are like creeps of the art community
Dude what the fuck. even all those shitty anime girls who were turning DA into garbage grew up from that stuff.
2016 dude.
Duuuuude. Dood.

>>2442143
I'm liking this

>>2444250
looks like a splendid penis

>>2433136
>zedig

more like i want to suck his cock dig

>>2432742
No offense meant to anon but I want to use this as an opportunity to ask your opinions on something.

A criticism that I get about my character design on some forums is that he is too bland in appearance, when I want him to look like a regular person rather than a characature or something. Like, I had a prostitute character but in her day clothes she dressed in cute, but slightly skimpy outfits. I based her clothing (both on and off the job) on real prostitutes from a few different documentaries but I was criticized because she wasn't readily recognizable as one. I later wrote in addictions for her but I still felt like that was being forced on someone who was outwardly (Not inwardly) happy, like a lot of women who sell their bodies because if you arent you're probably going to spiral down.

So what about simple character designs like this or what i've described is bad design? Or is it certain types of media that sometimes require such specifications of a character being readily recognizable, even if the story is being portrayed as more realistic?

I'm bothered by it because I got a similar criticism about a new character who again was meant to be based more on a real guy, so his clothing was kind of average because, no offense, but most guys kinda don't dress very different from one another, even within different subcultures you mostly find a t-shirt and jean combo with some kind of cool looking shoe.

>>2442391
I thought I was the only one.

>>2437199
>complains about anime
>in an anime imageboard

wew lad

>>2438260
Oh shit, never saw your reply, anon.
Just the community college in Austin. Apparently they actually have legit animation courses, which would make since cause there is an animation studio in the city with some really impressive students. Graduating from the art course can land you a job at the studio.

If you happen to be around the area, hope you can look into it. I know another anon here spoke about it as well not long ago. Small world, I guess.

Most of what is posted here are style sheets, redesigns, a few prelim drawings. None of which are "character design" per se. Character design is experimentation until you form a final version that fits whatever your goal is. This "character design inspiration" thread can pretty much be filled with anything because being a character designer means combining elements from everything you've experienced in life. I see a lot of people say they're designing a character but what they're really doing is getting married to an initial idea and never taking it in different directions. I get what OP and others are looking for I just want to tell you to look beyond just style sheets and other people's art for inspiration.

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>>2433397
It's not Ovopack?

>>2442143
I like this more than I thought I would after realizing who it was.

>>2442147
God I miss this show :(

>>2442391
It's cute but it's not that great. I have a lot of problems with it overall. As a piece of entertainment for kids, it works fine as a basic understanding of emotions, but as a movie i think it's kinda shitty. They could've gotten the point across better as a short film instead of a full length movie, I think stretching it out too long was the biggest problem.

>>2444220
Fucking this exactly. IMO unless you are a professional level artist who gets paid to draw it, or you're a 15 year old girl, you should stop being a weeb. Liking a few good titles is fine but preferring anime to everything is shit. Like, you're the kind of person who'd order a McDouble over a Steak (if it were free).

>>2444715
It's /ic/ which isn't generally anime-only, hence the stylization thread.

It's also 2016, 4chan isn't just about anime anymore and hasn't been for awhile. Moot isn't even here anymore. Believing in anything on this site as one set standard is retarded overall and doesn't change your garbage interests.

>>2444816
Augh..I'm in CO and I don't wanna downgrade by moving to Texas.

>>2444867
Then post some of what you mean, faggot.

>>2433937
Furry or not, this dude knows

>>2437199

Maximum calarts student.

>>2438093

animu

>>2444285
depends of the needs. if you're doing design exercises and you draw a prostitute who look like an happy, normal person, it's a failure in design. you have effectively draw a normal person with an explanation of "totally a prostitute guys!" on the side, and you missed the point of the exercise.

if it's for a larger work, like a comics or somethings, that a totally legitimate approach. you will have time to develop the character concept in the work.

but as char design exercise, your goal is too make your character look like as you stated. that the whole point.

>>2449534
?

Are you saying a prostitute isn't a normal person and can not be happy?

>>2448514
Yeah, I mean he is a furry, but also he knows dude. He knows! Even if he is a furry you know. So furries arent all bad I quess, thats why I made the comment, because I either am a furry myself and see people giving them shit, or I am a person that was disgusted by furries to a degree, but then thought that theres more to them and looked past a stereotype.

>>2449587
Shut the fuck up.

>>2447400
Stop whining then. Post more western stuff.

>>2449583
If I draw up a normal woman, do you automatically assume she's a prostitute?

Are you Frank Miller?

>>2449822
No, and no.

Are you going to explain yourself or not?

>>2449862
the point of a char design exercise is to design a character that follow and reflect some specification. if your goal is "a prostitute" and you draw someone that look generic enough that she could also be a vet, a librarian or an accountant, then you failed.

The point of char design is to communicate an idea. if people have to guess, then you failed.

Once again, if the design is for a larger work that can contextualize it, then it's ok. but if it's stand alone, it must communicate clearly.

>>2449979
Love this game so much, gonna post some more shit from it in a bit

>>2433938
you're a complete fucking retard

>>2449980
>top half of the image
hey this ain't bad, politically it's pretty overt but I've definitely seen worse in thi-
>leg hair
whyyyy

>>2449587
The fuck are you smoking matey?

>>2433938
Loomis can go fuck himself.
His art is bland and you know it. Anatomy means shit all if your art is emotionless.

>>2453076
really the craziest part of this picture are his monstrous hands

>>2454009
I think because of the braclets his wrist thus hand slooks really big.

>>2449980
>none of the black people have natural hair color
Tumblr strikes again

>>2449862
>mfw you actually needed him to explain himself

I don't know if he could've made himself any more clear. If you're making a standalone design, it needs to be made obvious for the audience to get it.

>>2434021
Metal Gear?

>>2449980
>excessive leg hair
>no hair on arms
>no hair on thighs
>no hair on belly
this is fucking retarded

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>>2448514

There's some great furriers out there

>>2437826
my favorite artist on tumblr

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>>2454726

Kind of a weird design for a man. Dainty little feet and wide hips/thighs.

>>2454816
But did you play the game and see his final render? When it comes to games, concept art isn't meant to be exact

>>2454822
What game is it? Looks like a ripoff of Deux Ex.

>>2454828
Bruh...

For "character designs" an awful lot of them aren't that original. And what is a character design without a personality?

When will this reign of Don Bluth/Anime/Cal-Arts come to an end? Folks, you need to broaden your horizons; can't you tell most of these designs are just copies of copies, degenerating each time?

>>2455417
A good designer never thinks about originality but about the purpose and context of the design. Originality is what noobs and amateurs obsess over. At most, it's a byproduct of a good design, never the focus.

>>2455424
hipsters like you really need to learn the difference between illustration and design. Popular, repeating design languages were not created just to spite you, they developed and evolved over time because THEY WORK for their respective industries / products.

CONTEXT is everything when it comes to design, it is impossible to judge a design without understanding its context. Some elitist morons seem to be completely unable to understand such a simple concept, yet they act as if they are above it all and everyone else is just a dumb, dirty pleb. This incredible lack of self-awareness would be hilarious if it wasn't so lost on people like you.

>>2455441
Woah, calm your tits m8. There are no universal rules, and the design styles that are dominant today one day will fall into obscurity, replaced with newer and bolder ideas.

>>2455441
I understand that animation is built on simple forms for ease of animating and I don't despise people being inspired. But a lot of designs I'm seeing here are either too complicated for animation, or are literally just misinterpretations of other styles.
You'll run into sloppy renditions obviously inspired by Disney Afternoon or something horrendous, which in turn is a sloppy rendition of older cartoons.
A brilliant design emphasises a character and their personality. There's no use in focussing on a "character design" if there's no personality or context in the first place.

A design like Daffy Duck is rather generic but through the personality he was given, the believability of his expressions, and expert draughtsmanship of the animators and directors that made him, the idea of a unique design seems pointless.

I wasn't arguing for originality for originality's sake, but a character design that's nothing but a animedonbluth overly detailed mess with no strong elements of design won't make a good character without a good personality to begin with.

>>2455459
The "animation" context is just an example, and also 'cause a lot of designs I see here are from animations.

>>2455441
*devolved

I <3 The Darkest Dungeon Artz...

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>>2453590
stop being so triggered

>>2455476
overall design of monkey punch is always really good

>>2455486
I don't see why. I see where they were trying to go with it, but the cheap Flash look ruins it.

>>2433938
B8

>>2444816

ACC has a lot of courses like that, for anyone else in Austin. They like to snipe professors from UT

>>2454754
Tell me about this artbook.

>>2449956
Why are you posting this. The show is funny, but in terms of animation, art direction and character design, it's almost as bad as Family Guy

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>>2447397
>preferring anime to everything is shit
Except no one's doing this, you retard.

>>2444283
>not "I want to suck ze dig"
what the fuck dude

>>2456769
>stop calling out ugly designs

It won't be long until the government is dictating what can be drawn.

All women must be at least 140 pounds.
Do not shave the pubic area.
Do not draw characters under 18 in any way that could appeal to a man.

>>2462049
we super-japan now

>>2462049
>It won't be long until the government is dictating what can be drawn.
yes it will.
also
>he doesn't like pubes

>>2454543
Nah I fucking agree. If you're going to showcase armpit hair and shinhair, you should showcase ALL bodyhairlike thigh hair, inner thigh hair that's not neccessarily part of the bikini line, crazy bikini areas, well trimmed but still hairy bikini lines, hairy bellies, HAIRY TITS.

Nothing to do with being "triggered" like the other sarcastic anon was about, but legitimately if you are going to make a piece showcasing bodytypes as well as support women who don't want to shave, then you should go the extra mile and show that some owmen have belly hair, or hair between their tits, or chin hairs, or any other myriad of spots on the body that we grow hair but aren't "supposed to."

It's fucking stupid to only make the shins hairy and have like one girl have some armpit hair.

>>2461978
Lmfao except plenty are doing this, you retard. Aww what's wrong did i hurt your fee fees by insulting your animus?

>>2462079
>he doesn't like pubes
>Pedo detected

Are these good character designs?
https://picarto.tv/CrowleyCrow

>>2462384
Post an image and we'll see

>>2456809
>but the cheap Flash look ruins it.
Explain

>>2447397
Personally I love being a weeb, but I agree.

>>2449983
>the "Kid"

>>2449975
This ones kinda nice, but they all have the same expression!

>>2444220
>turning DA into garbage
>turning
b8

>>2448514
*girl
>>2453076
If you just draw this guy normally it's already a caricature.
>>2455459
WHY THE FUCK DOES THAT THING HAVE TWO MOUTHS

>>2433616
I actually knew the artist. They went by @tolvgnir but they seem to have deleted all their stuff and left without a trace.
My condolences.

>>2433503
https://twitter.com/ashcozy/status/699571149429026816
I found it eventually.
Twitter can be a bitch.

>>2454543
Ok yet another opinion coming through, sorry!
I like it. Its like the transition for people who are bothered by hair for stupid reasons. Its a sign of change...?

I'm also saying this as someone who only has visible leg hair and happy trail (+ pubes and armpits but who doesn't, right?)

This thread is really nice btw, thanks contributing anons.

bamp

>>2444260
Freud wants a sit down with you

>>2455476
god that looks awful

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>>2471193
Go away, faggot

>>2453828
i agree with you but you're a fucking idiot

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>>2444206

Bro

>Shantae

>>2461055
what are poses, for 1200 shmekols

>>2472350
thanks for the share. damn those cal arts kids

>>2454053
this one is neat

>>2454543
who the fuck has visible hair on their bellys and thighs like wtf kind of girls are you looking at?? i am a girl, and i have seen tons of other girls and none so far have had stubble or hair like leg hair anywhere but the pits, crotch and knees down..... even arm hair isnt like that