/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2338381
artist name?

>>2338384
Are you really that stupid.

>>2338381
- Loomis

>>2338381
>I love Facebook
>this guy

are we getting this obvious now

>>2338384

Not OP, but that is Irakli Nadar.

>>2338381
-take real photo
-smudge tool
-filter

????

profit.

Or

-take real photo
-smudge
-draw manga head
-copy/past picture of eyes and lips
-filter

????

profit

Here OP, take those lips seems similar than those used in this guy work.

Now please never post again about this shit.

>>2338381
>i-it's a trace!

/ic/ BTFO

>>2338428
>/ic/ BTFO
I don't see any porn

>>2338428
the process in that image is read from right to left

>>2338428

>>2339057
the hair is almost always what gives away the trace

>>2338436

This. Anyone who believes it is the same sort of tard who'd believe in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEdRLlqdgA4

You just blur and smudge something and reverse it.

Granted, what he actually did still takes skill, but lying about the true process is despicable.

>>2339059
More effort goes into a trace than what that faggot does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh8f9DJbjkc

/thread

dont get scared by non-english video, the text describes it well enough

>>2338381

I got into a heated argument with him on facebook on a group called levelup where he regularly posts his garbage. I basically called him out and throughout the whole argument with him and one of his friends who has his head up his ass I learned that this is indeed a photbashed process. He said to me that he doesn't 'waste time on mindless rendering', but his work is exact photocopies, with variation using brushes and some different edges here and there and some color balancing. So yeah he is a complete tool, he uses fancy filters and smudge tool. Also note how in all of his process images that he uploads he always starts with an already established painting. He never starts from a sketch or a blocking or simple lay in, ever.

>>2339113
the problem is, he will be making living from this in a year tops

>>2338381
I wonder if he even traces, or just runs it through a filter.

Here's the original photo (taken from the gif) after spending 3 minutes applying filters to it in Photoshop.

>>2338381 (OP)
I wonder if he even traces, or just runs it through a filter.

Here's the original photo (taken from the gif) after spending 3 minutes applying filters to it in Photoshop.

>>2338381
he draw the tattoo at least.

>>2339126
Once you use the blur/smudge you just put back the result on top of the original photo and play with the transparency layer/overlay.
Then add noise to it and flatten.

>>2339138
I actually just used a filter called "oil paint" that comes with Photoshop.

>>2339112
>people defending this
>'it takes skill'
>'try making something better'
oh my

>>2339112
>those buttblasted comments
>Jesus christ, who cares?! And you call them attention whores? The only one thats an attention whore is you, because you created this video so you could get all attention because '' you discover '' that they didnt draw from scratch?
>In what way this is fake? Even if the painter trace the picture she did paint it, she is talented, not fake at all.

LOL

>>2339057
Well, at least the end result looks prettier than the original photo.
Just curious, can this be sued? I was thinking that if I can hire a guy to get me a concept art much faster and cheaper by using this method, I'd be okay with it. After all, all I need is a concept art not the process, and not getting sued.

>>2339145

-then you blur the modified oiled one using blur tool on parts like the top tank and hairs.
-have the original photo under it.
-create a mask on the oiled+blured top layer.
-use black blurry brush with opacity at 30% to "erase" important part of the oiled top layer. Parts like mouth-eyes. So those have hard edges.

flatten everything, used filters/noise whatever.

enjoy

>>2339154
>concept art
what?

>>2339148
This thread popped up a few months ago and it was apparent that the guy who makes those smudge 'paintings' reads this board frequently. It's himself making those posts and probably a couple of others using similar bullshit methods to scam money on Patreon with.

>>2339059
It's not traced...it's worse, it's a photo-manipulation with a lil' paint-over.

>>2338381
>mfw he attached a link to the painting process of that photo in artstation
""""""painting process""""""
my sides

>>2339473
And /ic/ hating on Sakimichan and Kr0n, at least they actually draw their art.

>>2339473
>every previous step is just the addition of more blur

this is hilarious

>>2339115

I know lol, but when he doesnt have images to help him create concepts he'll suffer.

>>2338381
ayy i remember this faggot truly an inspiration to all of us since he makes money unlike all of you, great thread.

>>2339473
Let s flood Deviant art with tons of blurred stock pictures lul.

>>2339496

Why doesn't anyone try to copy his success then?

Form the super secret Eye-See-Art Collective and become obscenely rich.

Honestly, the only thing I hate about this guy is that I didn't think of it and aren't swimming in cash like he is

>>2338381
1) type "suicidegirl portrait" on bing or whatever
2) download an image and rotate it 5-10 degrees
3) apply filters and repaint eyes either kronprinz or sakimichan style
4) (optional) re-size proportions to give shitty "cute" manga deviantart look
5) post in facebook group "level up" and create patreon

>>2339499
That's actually a great idea

>>2339504
We shouldn't strive to copy his success, we should flood deviantart, tumblr etc. with the same shit and make tutorials for how we do it until these cunts go back to the bread line where they belong.

>hypothetically speaking

We need a hero. We need Mr. Concept Art

>>2339112
Omg those comments
Also I feel like an idiot for not figuring out how to do that.

>>2339892
>we should flood deviantart, tumblr etc. with the same shit and make tutorials for how we do it until these cunts go back to the bread line where they belong.
Fucking genius.
Calling all neets, please do it.

>>2339903
Thank the black guy

>>2339499

>>2339066
>14.5 million views
>only 1 comment

Well that's certainly normal

>>2339126
I'm pretty new, but how do you paint this way????

>>2339918
loomis

>>2338381
This girl is intensely ugly I can't even

>>2340167
>tumblr slang

http://www.momenta.online/2015/12/irakli-nadar-about-painting-the-perfect-portrait/
check it out boys, he sounds legit 2 me

But seriously, this is a growing trend I think, we need to bring these "artists" down, is there anyone else out there that can do it???

>>2338381
Draw more

op follow this guy instead
https://www.artstation.com/artist/yjc

>>2340269
> Most people agree that portraits are the most difficult subjects to paint

kek.

I don't get what you guys are worried about. This stuff is just as legit as anything else done digitally. This could not paint something from imagination to save his own life, so what. If you are looking to compete with him for those digital instagram-model photoretouch illustration gigs, just do the same thing he does. It's not like he will steal your fantasy illustration gigs, because those require you to draw and paint stuff from scratch. Same with design / ca jobs.

tldr: why are your jimmies rustled? if you want to do what he does, what's stopping you from using his workflow?

>>2340346
It's more the deceit that people are annoyed with. It the dishonesty that gives digital a bad name. A lot of non-artists already have misconceptions about how digital painting works, and this just reinforces it and gives digital a bad rep.

>>2339112
the best part is that it gives you an easy way to spot bullshit - dont see where they pick colors? instant fake

>>2340369

most people are fucking idiots. what deceit? you want popularity/money? realize that 90% of people out there are dumb as fucking horsepiss sprinkled ontop of donkeyshit. spam mlp with traced ponies with gigantic dicks for a week and watch your paypal blow the fuck up overnight.

if there's one thing pursuing art has thaught me = people are fucking idiots, the core of business is deceit and exploitation of this fact.

i cannot overstate enough how little it matters that there's 'deceit' going on. nobody gives a flying fuck except for other artists who come across your work. and those will be 0.5% of the total audience your stuff reaches.

there's no value in being 'honest and genuine'. none, zero.

>>2340419
>spam mlp with traced ponies with gigantic dicks for a week and watch your paypal blow the fuck up overnight.
the highest paid artist, sakimichan, never drew a single pony.

>>2339112
wowee, didn't realize you could just mask the layer and "paint" it in bit by bit. Wouldn't people catch on that you're "painting" with white though?

>>2340440
thats why you don't show any of that stuff

>>2340346
I'm a bit mad because back when I was (even more of) a pleb I thought people like this did this for real and looked for their "process" and "tutorials" and obviously was confused as fuck.

>>2340435

Yeah, I know. I don't know what you are trying to tell me. The cucumber is a vegetable, not a fruit. Duh.

>>2340419
>there's no value in being 'honest and genuine'. none, zero.
no material value anyway

>>2340419
you might have problems of the mind my friend

>>2340455
do you always feign ignorance when someone debunks your theory?

>>2340324
>https://www.artstation.com/artist/yjc
WOW wtf

>>2340419
This is what I don't quite understand. Suppose you make it big like this guy using this method. I would imagine the point of having all that money is the freedom to now draw whatever the fuck you want however you want.

And yet, these people have made their money and continue their deceit.

This is how you know people like Saki aren't just pandering, they must genuinely enjoy their art. And you know what? Good for them. That's the dream isn't it? To draw what you like and still make money?

But the thing with these photobashers is that they are fundamentally lying. Not some moralistic bullshit like "this isn't real painting" but literally going out of their way to lie about how they make these paintings. That's just being an asshole.

>>2340558
maybe they are addicted to the praise or something

>>2340419
wow, edgy

>>2340596
a guy actually made serious money by copying mlp shti to the point where he was being paid to go to cons haha the anon is being edgy i agree with you there but he has a point.

>>2340596

God you are so fucking naive.

>>2340596
horse-news dot com look for draw ponies on google.

nope. he's right.

>>2340617
Post your bank account

>>2340627
this could be the beginning of something beautiful.

>>2340623
>drawponies
>https://www.patreon.com/drawponies
>404

>nope. he's right.

>>2340222
rekt

>>2338428
dude you're fucking retarded, you realize the original image can be on a layer below the painted one right? thats kinda what tracing is? i mean holy shit dude, people like you need to bet fucking hit as a kid

Let's do this shit. I am going to do it. I'm going to do exactly what he has done, and then reveal the bullshit when I'm at the top. If any anons want to join this we can make up ficticious art schools and shit to make it more believable. It'll be fun.

I need an artist name, something eastern european or russian that sounds exotic. Any anons care to help?

>>2342388
Aliya Nazarbayeva

>>2339154
I think it can be done if you own the original photo. Same as copying. There's plenty of stock sites that sell this sort of image for like 3 bucks each. Do it brah. It's certainly going to be cheaper and quicker than having a painting done.

>>2339473
okay i thought everyone in this thread were being asses, but this is pretty funny

>>2339473
why is impossible for this to be the actual process of a heavy referenced photostudy?

the guy could perfectly have started with a big soft brush mostly, and end with small soft and hard ones, as you do, and get those exact same steps (he probably color corrected and apply the same filter on every step when he joined them for consistency or something)

he could actually traced the contours, or whatever, but that doesn't detriment the utility of the study as a render practice.

>>2343402
It's possible to start with big soft brushes then add in sharp details on top. It's not a common method, but it is possible. Jana has done it legitimately several times.

But that particular example is clearly a fake process.

>>2343409
>clearly a fake process
why? i can't point at anything obviously wrong there.

also, the guy can render very good, and likes doing his photo studies. what reason he would have to lie in that particular case?

>>2339473
because brushes don't work like that, if you used big brushes it wouldn't look like that

the only way those pictures could be real would be if he blurred after every step

>>2343427
because he's lazy

in your example he used the mascara trick

in the other he outright threw effects into a pic and then blurred it backwards to call it a progress

those two pics are very different, one shows an increase in detail using smaller brushes, the other shows an increase in detail unblurring a pic

have you ever done a photo study on a digital platform?

>>2343434
they COULD be fake processes, sure, but the most simple explanation is that they are real

the guy clearly can render and knows his photoshop. no automatic filter can do that shit

you people need to calm down with the conspiracy theories and the envy of anything successful

>>2343438
the most simple explanation is that you're retarded

>>2343466

Nu uh, you just don't appriciate his genius. Kr0n will be the painter of the 21st century as he expresses in his work themes of alienation, death and big eyeballs

>>2343438
here the problem: the haircut is a photobash from kron. He just changed few hair strings to make it his.

The lips are pictures he bashed and modified.(join exemple of lips you can use to bash in artwork)

The guy can t even draw without bashing Kron. Ironic considering Kron also bash.

>>2343495
>Ironic considering Kron also bash

Kron doesn't bash, he does copy poses.
Just look through his early work and you can see a evolution of his skill and style.

And there are plenty of other individuals who can match ilya.

Eg. http://guweiz.deviantart.com/ "He's pretty good for Kron clone"

As for Nadar it does seem like his creation are dubious in authenticity.

>>2343499

fagget stop your crusade its pc art

besides lips are drawn not pasted

faux colours typical for cocaine user

>>2343667
Hi nad4r, what hack will you "draw" next time?

>>2343667
"not pasted"

>>2343702
That's pretty sad

>>2340157
thanks!!

>>2343721
you just dont understand. In fifty years there will be a hollywood movie about the big eyes revolutionary artist with big lips also

he doesn´t bash.

He explained himself here on ic. But the fucking trolls went apeshit on him. Fucking trolls...

>>2343519

You are all retarded as fuck... sorry guys.

With all the respect I feel to you. Don´t you realize Kron and Guweiz are the same guy?

2 patreons accounts = More money!

Just tweek a the style a little bit.

Don´t believe me. check the DRS code in both Patreon accounts, or even the old caches of da accounts...

You are all naive as fuck.

Trying to see how much you can do with filters in order to see if making an action of the entire process is possible.

Noise > Median and Pixelate > Pointillize can achieve interesting results for simplification and color variance when used with certain layermodes.

>>2343755
oj also said the glove doesn't fit

>>2343755
whatever we are talking about Nad4r here not KRON.
>>2343702
see this

Is it still theft if you're stealing from a thief?

>>2339126
>>2343766
those look nothing like OP. you convinced me that irakli is really painting those portraits

>>2343495
>>2343499
>>2343702
this is beyond ridiculous man. go outside and get some air. i assure you you'll be happier when you'll let the anger go and drop your crusades against random internet guys

>>2344014
hi irakli

>>2344014
>is being given evidence
>"i-it's ridiculous! b-beyond ridiculous....! stop picking on random internet poor gruznian thieves with 20k views on artstation and 4 photo paintovers in "best of 2015" p-please, he didnt do nothin"

>>2339478

this pretty much tbqh

>>2338381
>kikebook

That painting just looks like a slightly blurred photo with a filter.

>>2343762
>Kron and Guweiz are the same guy

They're both too different with their own idiosyncrasy imho. But hey you're entitle to your own opinion, power to you.

this is a fake process some anon did to prove Irakli is full of shit

I agree

>>2344575
that proves nothing, retard. all this thread has show is some farfetched, borderline crazy theories about how the proccess MIGHT not be real, without a single conclusive evidence. Besides that, nobody has been able to give a photo the slightest appareance of Irakli's work, your example is the worst offender.

either if the proccess is real (as the author says, and i don't have any reason to doubt) or fake, the results are skillfull, clearly appealing to the public, and objectively of more aesthethic value that the references used. that's the ONLY thing that really counts.

I miss the days when I was a normie who could look at photobashed art and all I'd think is how cool it is.

I don't have the kneejerk disdain a lot of /ic/ has, but knowing the process definitely took a lot of the mystique and admiration out of it.

That said, there's usually an element of design and editing involved. It's not a pursuit that's completely without skill. It's also not a process that's as easy replicated as /ic/ likes to pretend, especially not to do it as efficiently as many of them manage.

>>2345157
>and objectively

There's that word again.

What exactly is your objective criteria for something being of more asethetic value?

>>2345169
consensus

>>2345157
irakli pls go