/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

i love u squid
i will never harm u pls dont be mad
i stalk u cos i want 2 noe more bout u bby

making an original character called " poo chan ", gonna be a crap, what do you guys think?

what tool is murata using to tone his drawings? is it a digital technique? the values are so neat it was like they were put in using the paint bucket tool, and sometimes the gradation is so fine that I wonder how he does it?

>>2263089

>>2263090
at bigger art stores they sell premade screen tones and background effects. You just cut em out with a scalpel and paste it on the bg.

>>2263094

I see. I know some people are real masters but I was finding it hard to believe he did some of that by hand.

>>2263089
you can tell she would love anal

Anyone know of videos on how manga is created by professionals? I really want to see their creative process, kind of like in a documentary style. Just to observe a professional work would be really interesting.

What the hell am I doing.

>>2263117
where is the oversized feminine dick?

>>2263119
Sorry I'm not into that.

>>2263119

>feminine dick

if you are attracted to cocks you are gay so just accept it.

a dick is a dick. I will never understand how futafags think they are straight

>>2263125
So, I guess I'm not gay if I'm attracted to buck angel, amirite

>>2263125
he never stated anything about his sexuality

maybe you are projecting anon

>>2263128

futa fags are all the same i can tell he is one because he using the term feminine dick like they all do.

>>2263129
feminine dick is just a meme nowdays

>>2263133
your a meme

your conversation is a shit

wip update

>>2263094
>>2263100
Murata likes to draw successive panels as if they were frames of animation pretty often, and that kind of premade stuff just doesn't seem like it would fit in line with his process. I personally think he's just that good.

>>2263161
>believing what kotaku writes.

Yes they are succesive panels with hand drawn speed and blur lines.
I was only talking about the premade grey halftones and the transitioning grey ones. Those colors are almost impossible to recreate to be seen homogenous with ink.

Murata is a fucking beast.

>>2263161

You can clearly see the skin around the giants face where he was hit was a screen tone, however, maybe he sometimes uses tones, and sometimes does it manually like you suggested.

>>2263177
>>2263180
Oh yeah, that stuff I would totally believe is digital. The pre-processed cutout effects though, that's what I find questionable.

>>2263156
thanks for the boner

>>2263210
top kek, you'll enjoy this update moar

>>2263228
porn when?

>>2263125
Eh, If they would never touch one in rl then what?

Your thoughts?

>>2263228
please teach how to color skin using colored pencils
how colors do you use and you simply press hard to get dat value or a combo?

>>2263236
its uninteresting

>>2263236
That's cheating.

>>2263236
embarrasing

>>2263236
If it's just ref'ing I don't see a problem with it. Are you the artist?

>>2263236
all yours? do you recicle your drawings? o_o

I'm not into hentai but these r rlly good, it only happens that some faces do not fit a lot in that (too) grown up bodies

>>2263229
would only do if commisions, but i don't have a clue bout how to get them, just started social sht :/

>>2263238
it's "plastidecor" mainly, it's colors are a lot more saturated than pencils and you don't have to damage the paper by pressing hard, never touched these tools since I was a kid so you can imagine

>>2263236
I already knew. Everyone know's Smurf is trash. What's hilarious is how the anatomy is clearly worse in every single one of his images.

>>2263236
kinda gross

Okay I'm really tired of and probably done with this.

>>2263246
The guy who posted this is going on a full one-man hate crusade on the /a/ drawthread so clearly not.

>>2263253
Pretty good.

Just a suggestion for the girl at the back.
If she's bending that low, lower her head and maybe show her shoulders.
Anyway, it's good even without this.

>>2263253
That's you Magister right? Really like your stuffs.

>>2263253
you should take a look at moxie2d art, you might want to try learning that kind of color contrasts, would make your ilustration x10 times more appealing

>>2263253
cute. but i feel like i've seen this play out before.

>>2263246
If these were studies that would be one thing. The issue is the artist not only tries to claim them as original works while posting for attention, but he never accepts critique. Ever. The anatomy in every one of his versions is clearly worse. He only knows how to copy symbols and he copies those symbols from one artist (Houtengeki - pic related), he doesn't actually know fundamentals and he basically refuses to go back to the drawing board to learn them. I follow and study Houtengeki's work so the moment I saw Smurf's crap I knew what he was referencing and that he was garbage.

>>2263266
>mfw I reference off of life and real figures and models
>tfw you start to understand the underlying structures and forms and things start to make more and more sense as you study anatomy

I've never ever reference off another Artist I am so happy.

What, if anything, does anyone here know about what constitutes as fundamental? Name someone here who is completly original?

All I see is a bunch fanatics trying to one-up the other fanatic with the same shit.

>>2263273
>rip off leo and wain
>i am the most original person
yeah nah

>>2263275
malaysia drawfag and lefty

>>2263277
Who? The two tripfags that road the fanart train together?

>>2263275
>What, if anything, does anyone here know about what constitutes as fundamental?

Have you never read the sticky? Having a good grasp on fundamentals and understanding them allows you to not need heavy referencing when you draw. It allows you to simplify and/or exaggerate things competently because you know how things work. It's also expands your mental visual library.

>>2263228
Ohh that's toilet paper
Haha that's actually clever

so i went and actually studied back muscles, i think i understand them now

finished :D

>>2263308
Oh fuck

>>2263312
can you upload a higher res of this
i want to see the mistakes
1500x is fine

>>2263320
gotta scan it, if I upload full res it's gonna be the same quality as if you zoom that, cuz my phone is shit

>>2263279
"Fundamentals" is a buzz word for wannabes.

>>2263326
>"Fundamentals" is a buzzword
It's a "buzzword" that triggers you because you're shit at drawing. Keep copying your weeb symbols and pretending you actually know how to draw. You aren't going to fool anyone but people just like you who can't draw for shit either.

>>2263156
where are the rest of her legs?

>>2263368
you have to purchase the DLC

>>2263325
i just want to check for wobbly lines and those lines you do when you screwed up on the first try

>>2263403

>>2263326

>>2263258
Too lazy to screencap but I fixed it, thanks.

>>2263260
Thanks, I appreciate it.

>>2263262
I took a look and I have to admit it's not my thing. I see what you mean by contrast and I like it but anime screenshot lighting isn't what I'm aiming for in the end.

>>2263263
Could be! There's definitely a lot of kankore images similar to it. The only thing I referenced was Shimakaze's outfit, though.

>>2263346
to be fair I'd say fundamentals is a buzzwork because there's no preset meaning to what the fundamentals are and its often just said to insult beginners instead of giving actual critiques because actual critiques would be time consuming.
for example, most good artists would tell you anatomy is not a fundamental, learning forms is a fundamental however. /ic/ on the other hand acts as if anatomy itself is a fundamental.
anatomy is just building off forms though and thus isn't a fundamental.

>>2263495
>fundamentals is a buzzwork because there's no preset meaning to what the fundamentals are
But there is, and the books referenced in the sticky go over them.

>most good artists would tell you anatomy is not a fundamental, learning forms is a fundamental however
Form is important but the reason anatomy is important is because it's what makes the form. Understanding the anatomy helps you understand the form better and gives you more freedom with simplifying and exaggerating it from different views and angles.

>>2263514
>my books are law
no they aren't.
>anatomy makes form
nigga are you literally retarded?

>>2263249
isn't plastidecor just fancy crayons?

And done. Besides the coloring at least.

>>2263495
>most good artists would tell you anatomy is not a fundamental
Bullshit. Unless you just never want to draw a living being, anatomy is fundamental.
>Understanding the anatomy helps you understand the form better
B R U H

>>2263551
the flower is too weird on top, it would be more natural over the ear (on the side of the head) also folds look weird and repetitive, some of their lines are so thick, everything else looks nice to me

>>2263529
I don't understand what you mean

>>2263266
Repin used refs for ALL his pictures. All poses and faces you see on picreleated was drew from his friends who posed for him.

>>2263560
>the flower is too weird on top

I know, frankly I hard one hell of a hard time to understand how it even works, and even now it still looks weird.

>>2263561
People are biased when it comes to ref. If you took the photos/draw something yourself you can reference it freely. If it's someone else's picture or artwork, you must state so.

>>2263565
it's not that mysterious, it's attached where the pony tail starts kek
you made her pony tail too low too if that's actual reference

>>2263236
fucking rekt.

>>2263572
The third one is pretty old and got used as a ref but I talked about it back then. The guy just used that and went finding any Houtengeki pics that looked a bit similar to some of my recent drawings to accuse me of "copying". Except in the end I didn't use any of them. He got banned from /a/ for shitposting anyway, think that settles it.

Frankly Houtengeki made so much girl illustrations that it would be hard to make any pose that doesn't look a bit similar to even one of his. If I looked a bit I'm sure I could find ones that look even more similar to mine than those that he posted.

>>2263555
>never want to draw a living being
that's not the point, that's not a "fundamental" thats something you need for drawing humans.
the fundamental part is the understand of forms, not forms of a specific object or subject.
"fundamentals" are things that are applicable to every piece of art. things like value, color theory, perspective, forms, etc... it shouldn't matter if you're drawing mountains or beastiality rape fic, the fundamentals stay the same,

>>2263586
Anatomy is _fundamental_ to any depiction of a living being then, faggot. Your attempt at defining a nebulous concept like art fundamentals is pointless and pathetic.

>>2263551
from what i can see in this image >>2263565, the flower is coming from the back, where the ponytail is.
anon. do i have to call you an autist from now on?

>>2263584
>a bit similar
>a bit
They're almost 1:1 copies and the only things you didn't copied are fucked up.

>>2263577
>>2263595
Doesn't really looks like it was attached to her ponytail for pic related, which is the one I actually used for the placement.

>>2263592
>fundamentals have a definition!
>lol you're trying to define fundamentals
Holy shit you're retarded. It may not of been you who said it, but keep track of the conversation at the very least.
>It's fundamental to x
Which is not fundamental to art. When people refer to fundamentals they refer to art fundamentals, not to a specific subset of art.

>>2263608
"Art depicting human figures or other living creatures isn't a massive subset of art, guys"

What's up with these gay ass template thread OPs now?

>>2263612
no one said it wasn't and I definitely did not say that. However, it is still just a subset and not the entirety of art, and therefore not a "fundamental" of art as a whole.
whether or not something is fundamental to a subset is irrelevant.

>>2263619
The skills you consider fundamental don't apply to "all art" unless you exclude art not meant to represent anything. If that isn't the case, you're working with a majority that art representing human figures applies to, thus making anatomy a fundamental. With that said, I think your criteria for what is fundamental is rather arbitrary.

>>2263629
it was suppose to be arbitrary, what I said wasn't meant to be taken as the literal end all be all of fundamentals, just that those are things that apply the all technical art,
however anatomy in specific is not a fundamental because it belongs to a specific subset.

>>2263633
Maybe I just want "fundies" to remain a nebulous, vague idea of what's required for someone to represent what they want to represent and be able to create a variety of art, before moving to more granular studies oriented to a certain field. Whatever, anon. That "most good artists would say anatomy isn't fundamental" line is still kinda crap though.

>>2263551
Better? I guess I really shouldn't have used this one >>2263603 as the reference, fucked up the way I saw it here >>2263565

>>2263636
personally I just hate when people give vague advice, and fundies is one of those likes (I'd consider "anatomy" as well) that doesn't help at all and is basically a way to say "you suck" while pretending you're critiquing.

>>2263642
looks better, keep it up m8!

>>2263649
kek

>>2263649
>a bit similar

>>2263649
Now you're just trying to force a meme.

>>2263659
Smurf isn't making it hard.

>>2263649
>Not even one line that fits

>>2263659
yeah I don't mean harm to that dude, and I'm an asshole for making that image tbh.

>>2263649
Not a single matching line. You can't just superimpose any old image you want and call it a trace.

how does your life look like when you spend time doing this? >>2263649
anyone have the anwser?

>>2263670
Incredibly fulfilling

Who cares if it's traced? The guy obviously references drawings without giving credit to the original artist.

>>2263675
Nobody said he's tracing but copying.

>>2263649
even the eyes look similar

>I've gotta get hands down
How am I doing so far?
Any tips?

>>2263675
>references drawings without giving credit to the original artist
So? I reference photos for my studies without giving credit to the original photographer. Virtually no one cares.

>>2263682
>references drawings without giving credit to the original artist
>Virtually no one cares.
Thats highly illegal m8, you know nothing of copyright laws.

>>2263680
What could I even say? There are many problems but you already inked it anyway, not like you can erase anything.

>>2263682
>Copies works from the same artist almost 1:1
>Puts haircuts on them
>Call it your own drawings
That's so fucking lame.

>>2263682
>implying a drawing and a photo are the same thing
>implying eyeballed animu is a "study"

>>2263690
I agree but it's not like that's the case here.

>>2263693
Did you see that >>2263648
Or maybe you're retarded? or Smurf?

>>2263684
>>2263690
I'm laffin. Greg Land has made a career of it, and plenty of music "artist" do the same thing with samples.

>>2263697

>>2263584

>>2263697
You're quite the tryhard.

>>2263701
>>2263702
I don't know how you can be this retarded/delusional.

Am I doing it right.

>>2263691
If you're trying to copy the way an artist stylized something, it can be.

>>2263703
They're samefagging or just some dickrider of his.

>>2263706
no.
learn how to do it right

>>2263707
Over and over again? Without giving credit? That is the problem.

>>2263707
>>2263712
Better call up Jack Kirby's estate and let em know Mignola has been emulating him for decades.

>>2263312
i can almost hear her uttering a good old "mo-i dakara!"

>>2263712
I know. I'm talking about copying the way an artist does something you like. Like noses, light weight, faces, etc.

Copy bunch of art from what you like the most. Then draw from imagination or using rl ref with that stylization.

>>2263716
>other people get away with it so why can't I
This isn't how you damage control

>>2263721
>>2263716
>>2263712
>>2263707
>(pic related)

>>2263722
They're called artistic influence, dipshit.

>>2263697
>>2263703
>original_pose_do_not_steal
Galactical butthurt.

>>2263706
1 You should draw gesture first, not following any outline, just "feeling" direcions and dynamism, tensions, just drop big curvy lines, but you really have to put focus to abstract it
2 you should then construct basic forms over that gesture, boxes, cilinders and shperes, but YOU REALLY HAVE TO DO THEM
3 Now you have good foundations to draw your loli

don't use straight lines on limbs
PD: you forgot 10 years

>>2263711
how do you do it right

>>2263725
>eyeballed
>"influence"
>what weeb hacks actually believe

>>2263730
why don't you try to overlay your drawing with the ref. then you'll know everything you did wrong. and that's easymode.

if you use a ref, you need to get something out of it. it's like with gestures. if you aren't capturing anything, you might as well just stop.

even that mexican homosexual lefty has been trying a little lately. what about you? it's always the same shit

i don't know why i keep replying to you

>>2263699

>>2263725
The idea is that you "steal" from multiple sources and put them in the blender to form something different. You don't steal from one source and fuck it up because you don't understand fundamentals in the first place. Learn some context you stupid shit.

>>2263740
>he doesn't know about old masters

>>2263741
not the same guy btw i was just asking

>>2263745
>comparing anime to master paintings

>>2263744
>talking to me about context
>not looking at the posts I quoted specifically
Anon. Also, there's nothing wrong with using a reference if you're just making something to practice.

end it

>>2263748
>it's okay for old masters!
>anime
manga

>>2263758
>manga
animu

>>2263759

>>2263741
>why don't you try to overlay your drawing with the ref

It doesn't work that way. Animu proportions do not equate with real world figures if you follow the reference too closely you will have unpleasant and jarring results.

>>2263751
>not looking at the posts I quoted specifically
>copying over and over with out giving credit
>practice

You're still ignoring context. But go ahead and keep copy symbols. The moment your left without reference you're fucked because you never bothered to actually learn how shit works through studies. Studies should be sourced. They aren't original works. There is a difference between influences and straight up copying but beginners never understand the difference. Smurf is "influences" by Houtengeki as much as Nick Simmons was "influenced" by Tite Kubo.

>>2263767
>that entire post

>>2263767
> Smurf is "influences" by Houtengeki as much as Nick Simmons was "influenced" by Tite Kubo.

>>2263758
He's eyeballing simplified contour drawings. If he could convincingly copy a master painting that'd be worth recognition.

>>2263764
that is for after you understand the human body well.
like i said, you need to get something our of your refs and gestures. but you arent.
basically you need to stop drawing animu when practicing like this. you can start to draw animu from imagination all you want once you do get all the basics down.

on another note, i think you should start grinding gestures. because you obviously have no clue or sense about that at all

>>2262647
>rarely do i not like something as much as i hate what youve done.

Do you meant this in terms of subject matter or is the picture just shit at a technical level?

>>2263706
i hope youre following me in the /qa/ thread...
you should know...
by heart by now

>>2263797
What thread?

>>2263839
go to qa and you should know which one.
you know my lines do you not?

>>2263762
>GIRUGAMESH
wow, i havent seen that image in ages

>>2263706
something i've noticed : /

>>2263236
>>2263648
you can't copy right poses but damn that pretty lazy

I don't mind using a ref for a pose but at least choose a different angle

>>2263134
you're

>>2263228
i bet you'll be big on patreon

>>2263584
He got banned from /a/ because /a/ isn't the place to be bringing that kind of shit up. On /ic/ it's fair game. Stop being a shit artist. You're never going to be as good as Houtengeki if you're hell bent on just being a cheap knock off.

>>2263117
>>2263551

>>2264041
your necks are waytoo short

>>2264053
No there not the heads are looking down and in one of the poses the shoulders are up. Also not same fag.

>>2264055
"no"

>>2263706
she is so freakin long

>>2264074
the anatomy looks good but the proportions are off, look at the size of her head

what's a good way to learn anime proportions, i wonder? and I mean the standard, run off-the-mill moe animu proportions, you know what i mean don't bring up extreme examples like jojo or clamp or whatever!

>>2264083
>what's a good way to learn anime proportions, i wonder

A long treacherous process of experimentation and failures figuring out what works from referencing off a model or like that other Anon use a cheatcode and rip off other Artists that have already figured it out on their own.

>>2264086
Why are butts floating around her

sketch page

>>2263762
>>using girugamesh properly

>>2264086
I'm stupid. What is this chart trying to say?

>>2263706
SMALL LOLI BOOBS DON'T SAG YOU FUCKING TWAT. LEARN THAT ALREADY

Gonna try and make something out of it tomorrow

>>2264086
>that other Anon use a cheatcode and rip off other Artists that have already figured it out on their own.

Is this becoming a new meme?

>>2264214
nice. might want to give her a smaller nose, also, maybe add more stuff below the scooter to show that it hovers, right now it just looks like the wheels are obscured by smoke

>>2263648
I don't really see it in the 1st, 4th and 5th.
Angles don't fit, perspectives don't fit and the poses are so generic it's like saying everyone who uses the color red is ripping off Coca-Cola.

>>2264256
You're either blind or willfully ignorant

>>2264256
The guy who made the first pic set got banned for shitposting and the other who made the last "comparison" himself said he was trolling >>2263662 It's fucking nothing.

>>2264262
>>2264013

>>2264265
Ban evading isn't allowed anon.

>>2264266
>implying I'm him

>>2264267
No need to hide it tryhard.

>>2264268
Getting salty won't magically make me him, weebhack.

>>2264013
Trace hunters don't get banned when it's legit, like Kron's inquisition.
This is shitposting.

>>2264270
Or, you know, you're attempting some damage control

>>2263648
add this too.

halp

>>2264041
Thanks. I like how you place the guides for the chest muscles/starting point of boobs.

>>2264318
Looks more like a false flag posted to devalue other claims

>>2264323
That's precisely what it is.

>>2264318
The Smurf drawing in the center was drawn weeks before the BB drawing on the left.

>>2264339
Inb4 this turns into a BB crusade for copying Smurf :^)

>>2264339
As if that's relevant. It's a false flag and you know it.

>>2263706
Wait a second, did I just see CP without realizing it?

>>2263706
is this child porn? I know its a reference but come on, that is a literal child

>>2264347
>>2264348
CPmind. I hope it's not CP.

>>2264348
>>2264347
Looks pretty fucking tall to me

>>2264347
>>2264348
Haven't seen flat chested girls nude pics?

Smurf, are you actually spamming the thread so people won't notice you're a plagiarist?

>>2264348
first of all, no sex = no porn
secondly, fictional characters on drawings are not children nor adult

>>2264361
I'm 100% sure they mean the flat chested real girl in the pic who may/may not be underage.

>>2263706
Someone should really report mikufag to the fbi.

>>2264376
But then who would white knight for firez?

>>2264157
My japanese isn't too good but I think this explains how to draw a loli holding an isosceles trapezoid with her collarbones. The third figure shows that when lolis raise their arms their nipples are usually shaped like hearts.

>>2264384
there are other mexicans in this board

er how am i doing?

>>2264411
good

>>2264411
well

>>2263649
I don't get it. None of the lines are similar. Is looking at a pose and then trying to get another character to do that pose the same as tracing now?

>>2264412
>>2264413
holy fucking shit. first post i made without being insulted or told to redo it. hes supposed to be leaning forward in a blade clash, how could i show some tension like he struggling?

>>2264411
have you ever seen real glasses? aren't both glasses on a straight line, perpendicular to the stick to the ear?
you even did a frontal eye, take references

>>2264427
i was thinking there more like oddly shaped goggles. and i did do a side eye, its just kinda fucked because of the goggles

>>2264423
you have to hurry up doing poses be4 all posible human positions are copyrighted or there will be none left for you to use freely kek

oh, I see now why you did it
>>2264413
>>2264412
:/

>>2264320

>>2264411
It's lacking A LOT of dynamism. Compare with pic related for example. You only drew the faces and a full profile perspective makes it even worst. And because of that, you didn't really think about the position of the body and of the swords. It just doesn't works.

Even technically it' not good. ear is really small. The shape of the head doesn't works. The way the hairs got draw could be better.

>>2264423
He's copying.

>>2264423
This cop girl teacher wasn't even used as a reference to begin with.

>>2264440
he has never studied what he's trying to do on his own, and he doesn't care much at all, he even excused that glasses, just let him go

>>2264444
> teacher

Don't ask why I wrote that, meant "picture".

>>2264445
>he doesn't care much at all
explain.

>>2264445
That's not how it works.

eh?

>>2264471
im actually doing something similar

>>2264487
and better

>>2264471
guys any tips on how to show tension? the guy on the right is a regular dude but the man on the left is like a golem so he has the strength advantage.

sck

>>2264496
Do a composition like the other guy's doing. Or have an over the shoulder of the golem and maybe crop off the regular dude a bit, to show how much smaller/weaker he is.

>>2264433
I give up with this turd

>>2264558
make a tutorial on inking or something

>>2264572
quit trolling

I wish /a/ would go back to their containment thread.

>>2264594
well this is the alternative artstyle thread.
>>2264524
im shit its clear to me now. im just gonna do more studies and practice.

>>2264558
how can there be such disparity between your characters and that back ground? Learn to use whatever you're using, it lets down your linework

>>2264318
The more I look at it, the more I'm considering that BB really used this Smurf pic for those two, the lines and how some parts got draw are way, way too similar.

>>2264616
doubt it, bb might be lazy but he actually knows how to construct figures

>>2264616
Are you being purposely stupid? BB draws quickly(few minutes tops) and with no construction underneath, that's why his stuff is always a little wonky. Extremely simple poses that happen to be facing the same direction = coincidence, not plagiarism. Horses, not zebras man. It's not like either of these is some difficult pose with some strange contortion, it's a fucking girl facing the right with maybe her arms moved slightly.

>>2264622
Both have many lines that are exactly the same. I'm not doubting that BB knows his shit, but so does Kr0nprinz and we know how that went. It's quite hypocrite to accuse Smurf based only on the poses that looks barely similar and then totally ignore stuffs like that.

>>2264628
Was supposed to quote this one >>2264623 but that's not really different anyway.

>>2264628
Do you really think BB would bother looking up reference before he starts doodling

>>2264636
I looked at the dates and the right one was done less than a week after the Smurf one, and the left one a few weeks later, so barely after, BB most probably saw it on the /a/ thread. So yeah, why not.

>>2264640
you must really like smurf when you're trying to smear shit on bb this much

What do you like about certain styles?
how do you like doing your eyes,noses,ears etc?
how do you do hair?
what influences do you have?
what would be your dream accomplishment to reach with your artwork?

>>2264645
Are you retarded? If that's just a huge coincidence that's fine. But then that means all those accusions for Smurf are just as biased. Though anyway I wouldn't be surprised if you're the shitposter who began all that, so whatever I say is pointless.

>>2264628
>BB
>Copying Smurf
What a riot.

>>2264648
You sound an awfully lot like Smurf who also conceded to saying "It doesn't matter what I say" when you said you hadn't seen that Houtengeki pic before...

>>2264647
>What do you like about certain styles?
When I like the shapes/it is pleasantly exaggerated the right places
>how do you like doing your eyes,noses,ears etc?
>how do you do hair?
like they actually look with a few tweaks
>what influences do you have?
eastern artists like cushart and western artists like kekai kotaki.
>what would be your dream accomplishment to reach with your artwork?
making a living with my art

>>2264652
> ...

Kill yourself.

>>2264657
>I don't know what an ellipses is used for!

>>2264657
You are just trying hard to damage control by shitting up on other artists.
It's getting embarassing.

>>2264648
yeah and you're willing to draw another artist into that shitfest to disprove other people shitposting

>>2264341
BB lifts all her stuff from eurocomic like those published by soliel. She lifts a lot from Serbian comics also.

>>2264640
Because BB draws about 30 things in the span of an hour with little to no regard for accuracy. He's just not the type.

>>2264669
>her

>>2264671
Oh guess you haven't heard about the change?

Oh is this the make fun of cringeworthy /a/ drawfags thread?
Can we laugh at this loser too?
It's funny because it's literally out of deviantart and they never get better.

>>2264691
someone post that girl sitting on the "cinnamon bun "

>>2264691
That drawing is still better than 90% of /ic/.

>>2264693
That's a pretty bad meme, anon.

>>2264692

>>2264695
I am serious.

>>2264691
Can we please keep your memes in the /a/ threads?
The artist in question isn't even that annoying, just your typical weeb drawing weebshit on a weeb board.

>>2264693
how about /pol/?

>>2264749

>>2264771
Is that a /pol/-kun and /ic/-tan?

>>2264771
lel pure shit as always

>>2264774
You mean /c/-tan

>>2264779
ah ,sorry.

>>2264775
The Artists at /pol/ are pretty good they rarely participate on the drawthreads because of all the shitstorms

>>2264785
nigga u joking

>>2264788
You should lurk the drawthreads sometime

>>2264785
>Flat as fuck
>Line petting AND chicken scratching
>Symbol drawing galore
>Animu
Don't tell me these 2 are the best /pol/ can offer.

>>2264789
What kind of shitstorm are you talking about btw?
Is it like an SJW raid or something

>>2264801
I honestly have no clue but it seems internal.

>>2264795

What's the difference between line petting and chicken scratching?

>>2264817
chicken scratching looks like shit.
the only reason you're impressed by that is because your complete ignorance of art.

>>2264817
Line petting is when you repair a line with an another line.

Chicken scratching is creating a line with repeating, overlapping short lines.

typical amatuer habit due to lack of confidence

>>2264817
I DREW THIS FOR YOU
I CANT BELIEVE

>>2264819
>the only reason you're impressed by that is because your complete ignorance of art.

So basically you didn't answer my question. I was asking because I actually didn't know, nowhere did I say I'm impressed by it you cynical asshole.
Thank you to the other two anons who actually answered the question rather than aspiring to be as condescending as they are useless.

>>2264801
This chink used to think he was some kind of authority in their drawthreads, people told him to fuck off, now he's been shitting up the drawthreads and the winterball threads related to /pol/. He also shitposts here with those 'umad' animu girls made by firez and other unrelated /pol/faggotry.

>>2264857
lol

>>2264857
I didn't need them anyway

>>2264857
>/pol/ BTFO by one person

>>2264874
His autism knows no bounds.

>>2264879
>is asked if he's a virgin
>"im not gonna answer that"
>proceeds to do just that
>claims men are virgins until they've slept with their wives
>says he's a virgin, but would have you believe it's only because he hasn't married and therefore still "pure" but he has fucked plenty of loose bitches "to train"

Am I reading this right? This guy has got to be funposting.

>>2264893
it's a surprise /pol/ took him seriously
...maybe not.

how am i doing? cause i feel like im doing it wrong.

>entire thread is overrun by normie shitters and non artists from /a/ and /pol/

>>2264922
beginner thread

>>2264605
>well this is the alternative artstyle thread.
yes, why don't you plaster the thread with requests too you fucking imbecile?

>>2264691
fucking K I L L yourself

Wip for the color.

>>2264933
>yes, why don't you plaster the thread with requests too you fucking imbecile?
jesus calm down you fucking baby.

>>2264944
anon, there is a shithole over at /a/ that is waiting for you to crawl back into.

First attempt at painting up to shading. I'm not sure if I like it.

Could someone provide some critique?

>>2264951
polished turd but I like whatever texture you used

>>2264954
This is the lineart I used.

Any glaring problems?

>>2264954
This is the line-art I used.

Tell me what's wrong.

>>2264968
not that anon but here you go:
neck too thick, shoulder too high, arms too short.
try to ace the simple poses before attempting harder ones.

>>2264940
The hack is back! You going to compare your plagiarism to old masters again?

>>2264968
is it scaled down?

>>2264999
>>2264982

Thanks a lot.

Back to the drawing board.

>>2264933
>fucking kill yourself
lol, are you defending shitty drawfags who act like they're the shit because they draw like a 4 y/o?

>>2265044
you don't even draw, get out of this board and go back to /a/

>>2265044
it doesn't matter how bad hobbyanons from /a/ or evwn devianrart draw. and unless you can do significantly better than that, you should be worrying about your own pathetic art.

otherwise fuck off back to /a/
>lol

>>2265074
>significantly better
>than that
>implying that's something you need to question
or sorry, I didn't realize absolute shit was a stage you need to recognize.

>>2265074
>and unless you can do significantly better than tha

>>2265081
>>2265100
yes, i'm sure you at least think you're "significantly" better.
keep thinking that kek

>>2265103
if you really think that'd be surprising you must be pretty bad.

something i've been working on. any obvious mistakes?

>>2265105
i really do think that. and you'd be surprised.

TLDR: good artists have better things to do than poke fun at complete beginners and hobbyists.

>>2265122
the blue ones eyes are a bit far apart imo

>>2264940
fuck off you cheating cuck

I am THAT retarded I couldn't figure out what this is all about.

Do you post here drawings inspired by, traced or copied by other drawings?

Dafuq is this?

Xplainn then hate me hard anons

>>2265132
basically one drawfag named smurf is a dumbass who "references" (see copies) other drawings then adds his own "details" which he clearly has no idea what he's doing and fucks up the copies. then throws a bitch fit when called out on it and refuses to improve with critiques and continues his attention whoring.

to deflect this he started shit talking BB and ssf, two other drawfags on /a/, one of which just started drawing, the other who just doesn't give a fuck and draws completely from imagination with no construction.


tldr: /a/ is bringing their stupid drama into /ic/

>>2264323
ive literally improved as a human thanks to your post. Thank you.

>>2265122
Very simple and appealing style, anon
I think, your style especially would benefit from the shadows being crisper. Don't be afraid to push the values!

Also, is the blue girl being carried off the ground ? Her feet would suggest so, but her friend's gesture looks too static to be carrying her, If she is being lifted, arc the character's back a bit more to show the strain of the weight! Otherwise check the bottom plane of the feet to make sure they're all on the same ground plane.

>>2265135
> then throws a bitch fit when called out on it and refuses to improve with critiques and continues his attention whoring.

>to deflect this he started shit talking BB and ssf, two other drawfags on /a/, one of which just started drawing, the other who just doesn't give a fuck and draws completely from imagination with no construction.

Tldr: a tryhard faggot giving bullshit facts coming straight from his ass for his senseless personnal vendetta

>>2265145
anyone who defends the guy is literally an idiot.
he's basically straight out of one of the cringe threads
>that's not how anatomy works smurf

>yes it is, I got As in my art classes I know better than you
>I know its right because I "confirmed" it

>continues to make the same mistakes in every image despite being called out on it

>>2265145
And yet still better than 90% of /ic/.

>>2265147
Sure, keep showing more "facts" coming from from your ass, it's not really hard.

>>2265124
>>2265139
thanks for the feedback especially second reply! i feel it might be a little too late to change the gesutre, but yeah i definitely noticed the static-ness of the poses. maybe next time.

now back to drawing!

>>2265156
just check /a/ archives, we all know he pulls that shit.
just check any /ic/ alt art thread with him posting, he always makes the same mistakes and never improves.

just stop defending yourself, you're shit.

>>2265147
You forgot the part where he said he was better than Murata and Houtengeki.

>>2265160
And every artist in /a/

Smurf has been samefagging on and off since yesterday ad nauseam, attempting to hide his shitty conduct with defenses which evolved from
>I don't know what you're talking about
to
>it's "inspiration"
to
>old masters did it so I can
to
>kr0n did it so I can

He's posted false flags, spammed threads, and done absolutely everything he can think of to distract people from the fact that he plagiarizes Houtengeki's work.

>>2265165
Are you not getting tired of this?

>>2264940
that looks good, can I see the ref?

>>2265122
>"Bitch you lucky she holdin me back!"

>>2265167
Tired of trying to save face by accusing others of doing what you do yourself?

What happened to these threads jesus christ.
>>2265165
>>2265167
>>2265174
Please take your bullshit somewhere else.

>>2265175
No one should defend this shit, faggot has no place on a critique board.

>>2265175
Eat shit, the world will know.

>>2265177
Why didn't you leave yet then?

>>2265181
why don't you stop samefagging, doesn't it get depressing?

>>2265177
I'm not defending anyone.
>>2265180
Shut up and draw

>>2265183
Hey dude, show your work.

>>2263648
>>2263752
>>2264013

>>2265186
>I know, maybe if I ask for work they'll stop talking about my art theft!

Stay golden, /ic/.

I want /a/ to leave. This board was shit enough without their shitposting heaped on top of it.

>>2265196
But you are from /a/

>>2265196
>/a/ calls someone out for being a deviantart tier faggot
>s-stop it /a/!

>>2265205

>>2265206

>>2265208

>>2265209
>>2265208
>>2265206
>>2265205
Stop copying Anime.

>>2265210
And another falseflag post

>>2265212
Falseflag? For what?

>>2265212
Just stop replying, shitposters gonna shitpost as long as people keep taking the b8.

>>2265215
Except there is no bait, just pathetic attempts to save face and divert attention.

I thought this forum was about artwork critique.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>2265220
>forum

Fuck off back to tumblr or reddit or wherever you came from.

>>2265220
Some shitposter followed an /a/ drawfag here.

>>2265219
What do you mean.

>>2265222
>Smurf is samefagging up a storm again because people found out he copies work and claims it as his own
ftfy

>>2265223
Stop replying to it.

>>2265225
This post >>2265210 ? Why would he do that.

>>2265223
>>2265187

>>2265227
It's called deflecting and false flagging.
You're stupid if you think anyone is falling for your shit.

>>2265219
>>2265228
>>2265230
You guys are quite something. And do you know who drew >>2265205 ?

will you faggots shut the fuck up already. this isn't nearly as bad as say kron's case. kron stole the idea and even the color palette on top or everything else.
this guy on the other hand is just referencing poses and bodies.

doing this moderately can actually help you study other artists and styles and i'm sure he improved thanks to that.
of course it's not a good thing if it's done this much and he'll never be able to draw from imagination at this rate, but it's not as horrible as "theft".
it does devalue his art a bit, but that's natural.

i stopped caring 3 seconds after it was brought up and so should you.

>>2265233
It's a shitposter, you're only encouraging him.

>>2265231
He's just confused I sincerely told him to stop copying from Anime it'll only hurt him on the long run.
>>2265235
I think he is long gone and you've all been quarreling with each other thinking one Anon or the other is him.

>>2265233
maybe, but i wanted to set things straight anyway just in case before some gullible beginners jump on the bandwagon

>>2265233
>steals work
>claims it as own
>crusades against anons for calling him out
>refuses to acknowledge theft, unlike kr0n
>samefags to oblivion

>>2265233
Why are you still trying to swing this around on Kron?

>>2265238
meant for >>2265235

>>2265205
>>2265206
>>2265208
>>2265209
Was drawn by Smurf. So what now?

>>2265245
It's noticeably worse than the copied pieces, so you're just reinforcing our argument against you, retard.

>>2265247
Those were copied? from what?

>>2265267
Whether or not you copied those isn't relevant because they're worse than the obvious copies.

>>2265273
>you copied
What?

Other than fix up the hair and clean up, is there anything significant that should be fixed? Also should I leave the gradient or actually color it

>>2265333
Either make the gradient a bit more subtle or color it imo

Why have our generals been so full of shit lately?

Should I have cell-shaded this?

Or maybe have started with only values? I'd rather catch it now, should I have to restart.

>>2265233
>This isn't nearly as bad as say kron's case.

It's not as "bad" because Smurf isn't good enough to be making money doing it. Kron was. Not only that, but Kron came clean and made amends. As an artist, Kron shits on Smurf, obviously. So bringing him up isn't doing you any favors for your point. Smurf can't draw for shit. This is nothing new and seeing that he copies from Houtengeki while still managing to fuck up anatomy isn't surprising either.

>>2265348
do not bully the squid

>>2265348
no.
skill level aside, it isn't the same for exacly the same reasons i stated. kron lifted just about everything from the work he stole. and he basically used them as a base for his art. he did it so his material wouldn't run out, because he's a sleazy piece of shit.

this on the other hand isn't that much different from using posing or clothing reference.
sure it's not the best thing to do, but like you said, it can boost his work and in fact that's what ref is supposed to do.

either way kron is an entirely different tier. and it's not like i brought kron up. you guys did. i'm juat saying that it's not the same at all.

>>2265352
>mistaking me for mikufag
i'll fucking end you

>>2265355
Sure, Smurf. Keep comparing yourself to Kronz.

>>2265360
art and english must be your weakness, got it!

>>2265361
Gobbling up b8 must be one of yours. Why the fuck do you keep encouraging him?

NEW THREAD, time to move on.

>>2265368
>>2265368
>>2265368
>>2265368

>>2265355
>comparing yourself to mikufag
at least he draw from life. Youre a fucking xerox machine

>>2265355
Kronz was good enough to make dosh off copying. Smurf isn't. Kronz was good enough to make GOOD copies that didn't look like fucked up incorrect versions of the originals. Smurf isn't. Those are the only differences. Smurf's work is ass even when he copies. Faggot needs to stop posting for attention, go back to the fucking drawing board, and learn how to draw.