/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Reposting cause new thread.

>>2252547
the
fuck

>>2252547
Shit OP. There were definitely better images to use from the prior thread. OP image isn't even from the prior thread.

>>2252572
theres like 2 and both are made by meme artists
fuck that im not gonna put bbc or kyle in the op

How do you ink/lineart Hentai warriors.

>>2252555
noice, makes me moist

>>2252585
>meme artists
Their art is still better than the trash used in OP, meme or not. The colored Mars People X Fio pic from the previous thread would have made for a better OP image.

>>2252596
no fuck off
go make a thread about kyle vs bbc sunday night showdown those niggers are annoying

>>2252596
vanilla shit is not good enough or people will mistake it as stylization thread and upsets culturally sensitive people

>>2252600
>ruining OP with your shit taste in artwork

Get better taste and it wouldn't be a problem, faggot.

>>2252555
Your lineart looks so spontaneous and natural and yet it is so detailed. Love it.

>>2252585
What is a meme artist, and why am I one of those things?

>>2252604
>What is a meme artist, and why am I one of those things?

Artists that make the OP jealous as fuck apparently.

>>2252604
want me to list em?

teal
greydeath
rinfag
kim gung ji
loomis
vilppu
MIKU MOTHERFUCKING FAG
tehmeh
keppok
bagboss
kyle
bbcchan
chris chan
dobson
shadman
sakimi
pronkrinz

theres lots more. this is just the tip of the iceberg

>>2252610
Go back to /a/

>>2252610
oh yeah
lefty
dont think i forget about you, you 7 year stalling fuck

tableguy should be a meme but hes not memorable enough
noah bradley is a meme too i guess

>>2252609
meme artists are people that you know their name because of the drama that revolves around them or being shilled to the point he became a meme like kim jung gi and le loomis. some are very good while others are fucking shit as fuck like chris chan.

>>2252621
>>2252610

you're retarded, hate to break it to you.
Youre describing people as "internet memes", or "image macros" as if this is an actual thing. Go outside

>>2252650
fuck off kyle

>hey a porn thread wonder whats goin o--

>just some asshole circle-jerking himself over how much he hates other artists.

>shitposting about OP image.
What the fuck does the OP image even matter.

>>2252610
>mfw im on a list alongside KGJ

what an achievement.

>>2252676
CWC and dobson are there too
have a pat on the back buddy

fuck you all cumshitters.

>>2252668
OP did nothing wrong, it's the bunch of autists that decided to make a big deal out of it.

where the porn at

>>2252621
>shilled

OP looks like shilling to me. The art is so trash it wouldn't have been used as OP unless someone was specifically trying to shill his work.

>>2252734
OP pls go.

kek

'fuck's this

>>2252555
Gallery pls.

>>2253092
doesn't have one.

>>2253186
Darn. :^(

>>2252610
>>2252621
I think you're defective, he asked what are meme artists, not who.
Also what are talking about?
>meme artists are people that you know their name because of the drama that revolves around them or being shilled to the point he became a meme
I don't think you know what a meme or a meme artist is.

>>2253407
>I think you're defective
>what are talking about?
should we call for engineers?

>>2253438
Alert the city council

Porn thread has to be the most cancerous thread on /ic/. Why are pornfags so autistic?

>>2252555
Looks like you traced someone else's work for the girl and tentacle tips and then reworked the monster into your own character.
Your lines and confidence show it.

However if I'm wrong, good job m80.
Who am I kidding, good job either way.

>>2253593
>Your lines and CONFIDENCE show it.
that's the exactly why it shows that it wasn't traced lol

>>2252547
Can you degenerates start making these threads on>>>/aco/?

sage + hide

>>2253658
stop being jelly of porn artists skills lol

>>2253710
>jelly
>salty
>post your work
>porn
keep /co/ out of /ic/ please

>>2253740
nice retort, limpdick

>>2253750
the irony

>>2253740
if they're not jelly then either they're not an artist or they're too stupid to be able to appreciate or critique the technical aspect of art without being offended by it's content.
in both cases /ic/ doesn't need people like them.

What's wrong with "post your work" hate?
I can pretend as pro_artist and samefagging hard anytime. Thanks for anonymity.

>>2253764
>technical aspect
>implying anyone who regularly posts in these threads have any technical understanding in drawing

>>2253773
almost anybody worth their salt skill wise can be easily identified by their work, and there are a lot of very angry/petty people who would love nothing more than to have a name they can take their anger out on. it's a double edged sword, except the handle is also a blade. winning one argument on an anonymous imageboard is not worth the annoyance of someone with a chip on their shoulder following you back to where you nest

>>2253778
good joke jelly boi :^)

>>2253778
all my sides when reading your jelly posts

>>2253780
words of wisdom

>>2253780
>almost anybody worth their salt skill wise can be easily identified by their work
I don't belive it. You can always post scetch/gesture.

>>2253658
As i said the previews time you said it, i will go to /aco/ when you take your concept art on /v/ drawthreads.

>>2253800
>your
>implying

No one is going anywhere lol. Stop shitposting and responding to shitpost, you bunch of faggots.

>>2253794
sketches and gestures are much looser and closer to an artistic "signature" than a finished refined piece. while many artists can easily switch up their styles, the way they construct figures is almost always the same, while two artists with almost identical styles almost always have vastly different looking sketches

Wip

>>2253818
Practice expressions, dude. What is she supposed to be feeling right now? Is this supposed to be what a passionate/excited/joyful expression looks like?

>>2253831
ever seen Tomoko from Watamote's expressions?

but yeah i'll probably change that to a lewder one later on

>>2253833
Never heard of her. Is she unable of normally expressing her emotions?
Also, her vaginal area has a different perspective than her legs and the same goes for her upper body and shoulders area. Basically it's a collage of body parts all put in different perspectives. You should work more on the construction phase of your illustrations.

>>2253835
>>2253835
the commissioner wanted more labia majora and less labia-whatevertheinnerpartiscalled and was satisfied with this. at this point im just happy if i could satisfy the guy. also dude was choosing from these expressions at the time.

ps. the guy just asked me to change the expression, closer to Sawyer's personality. so we'll see how it goes

>>2253843
Clients will never say that you fucked up perspective unless they are artists or something along those lines. Why are you coming out with such excuses for making bad art? Either suck it up and say thanks for noticing or explain why you think you didn't fuck up if you think so. Doing bad art because the client doesn't know shit isn't a good excuse.

>mfw people with this kind of skills get commissions

>>2253850
shoulder seems ok to me at the time man

>>2253850
>>mfw people with this kind of skills get commissions

When did you realize that the hentai industry attracts tons of trash?

>>2253850
besides, i had this checked with other actual artists and they said it was okay

>>2253816
Stop making excuses. I pretended to be an artist a lot of times (on my native language board). I post other artists sketches from pixiv/sketchbooks/chats/twitter/blogs/2chan. No one identify me. Never ever

>>2253856
ah wait, got a second opinion from another artist. said i should change the left leg position

>>2253850
>mfw people with this kind of skills get commissions
so salty

>>2253861
... among other things, oh wow i can actually see them now

gonna start posting unfinished things for critique

>>2253835
wait what exactly do you mean with the vagina

>>2253778
>read thread
And it's not hard to see why.

>>2253859
>Stop making excuses. I pretended to be an artist a lot of times
you also get a lot of "fun" people like these.
>(on my native language board)
nice job dodging that ban

actually posting you own work in response to someone baiting you only results in annoyance and/or bill murray style no-one-will-believe-you's, take note, people new to the board

>>2253865
more like disappointed about people's standards

>>2252555
You got a tumblr or something you post your stuff on?

>>2253869
Nice lower body and feet (but that's what you are best at)
The perspective of the chair (especially the handles) and her hands is a bit off imo

>>2253869
Shoulders too wide?

I really cannot brain anything right now so imma just go to sleep and work on it later

>>2253856
Either they don't want to offend you or they are shitty artists

WIP. I struggle with multiple sets of feet and making different figures all 'stand' on the same plain. tryin 2 how.

>>2253904
That one of her legs is in the air for no good reason looks fucking stupid. Not even a chair would excuse that.

>>2253892
>disappointed about people's standards
>in a market that thinks with their dicks and not their head

why the fuck are you expecting standards from pornfags?

>>2253956
I suggest making a line version before color

>>2253968
Dunno. Maybe because I'm an optimist?

>>2253956
Is that pepe?

>>2254013
I am more of a painter.

Working on leg positions.
(sry bout the compression net's 2 shitty)

>>2254064
looks like quiet

>>2254064

I need more visual information here that is lacking. You don't seem to have done that much of an undersketch leading me to think this is mostly photograph referencing. I don't understand the space in which the ladies here occupy, neither what the background is or the prespective.

Post underline sketches that you are sure won't look like shit before moving on to. This goes for the feet as well, unless its not that important.

>>2254082
Expect more detail and total change of right two figures and the glob thing with a phallus. and background.

I use photos only for ribcage and hipbone placement, nuttin else. But I will need them for dem feet 4 sure. I dont sketch under canvas when paining at all, so I don't do it digitally either.

>>2254082
not them but some people literally never do underline sketches and just go straight to paining, even without reference. It's just faster that way to throw blobs onto a canvas for shape and then sculpt it from there.

>>2253892
you do realize that worse artists often get paid less than skilled ones?

Mcdonald's is shit yet people still pay for it
You can bet those same people would be okay with paying more for a better version of their food. But sometimes, shit is all they can afford.

>>2254181
you draw cute moms i want to hug very badly ;-;
still no site?

>>2254181
god tier taste.

>>2254188
>no one gives a fuck about his taste or your opinion

>>2254263
>no one gives a fuck
>replies anyway

That's not how that works. Now shut up and draw, faggot.

>>2254064
this is so early in the process that there is no conceivable advice that would be helpful

what kind of critique were you exactly trying to get from us, because literally the entire piece can change at a whim with your approach

>>2254280
>no one gives a fuck about you either

>>2254116

He gets it.

Also every time you guys weep and bray at each other you should post a erotica image you have made.

Here is something I did years ago.

>>2254360
is this supposed to be finished?

So what do people like to see in drawn porn nowadays? From what I've seen, pretty much Patty and Undertale

>>2254360
The faces you draw aren't appealing at all. But based on the "fucked up" stuff you draw, maybe that's on purpose or something.

>>2254360
>>2254064
Is there a market for eldritch porn or something?

>>2254531
>market for porn

is this a real question

>>2254531

>>2254064
>I am more of a painter.

good luck with that and porn comissions.

>>2252668
>implying porn threads in themselves aren't a circlejerk

>>2254552
>implying you know shit when probably just a common tardo

ghost slut OC

>>2254659
would (ghost) bust a nut through

>>2254373
No, but I released it anyway and got a guy trying to commission me. It didn't work out, $30 for a colored piece is too pricey I guess.
>>2254522
I don't give a fuck about beauty or appeal mang, have you seen what I do? Also, appealing faces are subjective.

>>2254980
I understand you don't give a fuck. Your art speaks for itself.

made for an asshole neighbor of mine

>>2254659
Tumblr? DeviantArt?

One more missing, keeping on coloring practice.

I draw too much fan art.

>>2255213
DAMN, I love your colouring! Can I make a colour request? Do you have a site?

>>2255261
I have not a site but you can see some of my drawings on Hentai Foundry.Tell me your request, if is interesting, I could do it.

>>2253958

People do very strange things with their body when they're horny.

>>2255290
true

>>2255238
please finish this.

I'm having a lot of trouble drawing the feet at various angles, can someone give me a rundown of the process I should be going through?

>>2255332
In the back figure the foot is too small, and in the front one, the feet not look totally bad, but the toes are too bended or something like that.

>>2255213
continuing with the other figure

>>2255238
I think the piece might really pick up once you give the hair some more texture.

Do you truly stay anonymous with a business paypal? I hear it suggested at times for artist who want to keep their name from the masses, but believe some one told me the founder's name will still be available to the customer.

Do you truly stay anonymous with a business paypal? I hear it suggested at times for artist who want to keep their name from the masses, but believe some one told me the founder's name will still be available to the customer.

I am a person who has been drawing for 3 or 4 years. I've heard that there is a low skill threshold for making money from porn. Is is true? Is cartoon porn a good way to get commissions? If so how do I get started in it assuming that I can already draw to an okay standard. Do I need a niche? What websites should I post on? Pls spoon feed me.

>>2255406
the skillset for drawing appealing porn is a very small circle inside the larger "drawing well" circle but both are much larger than most would lead you to believe

>>2255213

Fix these points in your drawing. Coloring won't make the drawing better if you still have these glaring problems in it.

>>2255238

Fix that. It makes her thighs look huge, and it giving the impression that she has a huge ass and skinny calves.

>>2255422
she's supposed to be a bigger lady, so i'd say increase the chub of the calves rather

>>2255423

Took your suggestion. Her calf is thicker. Hmmm, still looks wrong, doesn't it?

>>2255409

>the skillset for drawing appealing porn is a very small circle inside the larger "drawing well" circle but both are much larger than most would lead you to believe

What? So you're saying, the circle I have to draw in, in order to draw from the well, has to be smaller that the well itself, or should I go back to drawing a circle, which is in fact not a circle but a smaller circle inside of me, so that I can draw from the well, but not in the well, but the well itself, is the circle and I should never draw in that circle, or the well could circle me and draw it's own well, circle that well, inside the larger well, the well's circle, is that well?

What?

>>2255434

Exactly. Now you know how to draw porn.

>>2255409
>>2255406
I'm talking about making some commission money mane

>>2253593
I'll take that as a pretty big compliment. It's all original though.

>>2252595
>>2252604
>>2253092
>>2253893
Thanks ya'll, and as stated I have no gallery as of right now.

Here's the climax of this little series.

>>2255446
This looks absolutely amazing! Thought, to my taste it would have been better to make the girls pose a bit more spastic, her expression a bit more labored, and maybe some more fluid spry.. But that's just how I like it, this looks great as it is!

>>2255332
It's not like you are not having trouble with drawing the rest either. The process you should go through is going a step back and start properly practicing fundamental perspective and how SIMPLE FUCKING SHAPES work in it.
Yeah, I might sound like a douche, but believe me, this is the best advice you can get.

>>2255446
how come you dont have a gallery?
having a skill like this but not active anywhere online?
either youre bullshitting or this isnt your work

>>2255470
It's my work, believe it or not. And I should make a gallery, I might get on it.

>>2255475
Well, you really have good skills and your art has the right stuff to be showcased somewhere imo. But you shouldn't give in to pressure from random people's requests. Do you even need a gallery/portfolio? Opening one just to make a few anons happy is pointless imo.

Regarding your latest pic >>2255446
I still love the linework, but on this one her face is a bit wonky. Her eyes aren't in the same perspective/aligned as/with her face.

>>2255431
yeah, you totally fucked up the calf, lol

>>2255434
now you've got it

>>2255440
drawing appealing porn is a completely different ballfield compared to being able to draw well in general unless you were already drawing pinups, lol

>>2255479
those eyes are fine, don't worry bout a thing, kid

Any of you guys have the time to take a quick look at my blog and tell me what I might improve on?

http://drawersden.tumblr.com/

Many thanks in advance!

>>2255512
You could start by adding motherfucking values.

>>2255510
Alright, here's a redline to show it to people that are unable to see stuff like this. Hope it's more clear now.

Face on the left is a straight on view. Face on the right is a lateral view. He mixed both views.
The bottom face is what I would have gone for to better match the perspective of the body. But that one is just an opinion.

>>2255567
Prior to that he could do some perspective training to make his characters look less flat/deformed.

>>2255569
btw, how do you get your lines to look like that?

>>2255570
I actually agree, but those lazy dudes who just do lineworks always piss me off.

>>2255510
Alright, here's a redline to show it to people that are unable to see stuff like this. Hope it's more clear now.

Face on the left is a straight on view. Face on the right is a lateral view. He mixed both views.
The bottom face is what I would have gone for to better match the perspective of the body. But that one is just an opinion.

>>2255446
this is amazing
way better than the meme artists here

>>2255571
Sry, posted the wrong version.

>btw, how do you get your lines to look like that?
not sure what you are asking me. can you be more specific.

>>2255578
way to go buddy. let's make it a competition at all costs. i fucking hate people like you.

>>2255579
>can you be more specific.
love the thin sharp lines and the linequality

whats the secret?

>>2255584
I did just the redline. I hope you are not mistaking me for the anon that drew the original.
Anyway, in my case it's just a matter of practice mixed with some cool manga studio brush settings to make the strokes like they were drawn with a ball-point pen. Basically the faster the stroke is, the thinner it will be. I really like this feature. It makes the strokes look more like natural media imo.

>>2255479
I do agree, my only thing is drawing porn has always been a guilty pleasure, and I don't particularly want to be known for it. But anyway, gallery is up.
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=16041920

>>2255576
I see what you're getting at. Though I must admit, I still don't see too much fault in the original. I drew the hat crooked intentionally as if it was disheveled during the action, not sure if that's messing with the angle. But thanks a bunch, I'll look at it again later today and see if I see anything different.

>>2255591
>http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=16041920
Nice, gonna follow you.

The position of her ears are pretty low. That's why I think her head should be seen a bit more from below. Also, don't take my redline too seriously. I can tell you are an artist who has a good grasp for perspective. I guess you just went for the common approach seen a lot in manga and other over-stylized illustrations where you show more of the face and put the ears lower to emphasize the perspective. I know it's common practice to make faces more appealing.
I just wanted to nitpick a bit. The redline was intended more for the other anon who didn't understand what I was getting at.

>>2255581
Not him, but competition can only make you better.

>>2255576
>mixed views
technically you're right, but like the guy said, it wasn't noticable enough to need a correction. there were enough visual cues to make us understand the viewpoint (neck, hair etc).
sometimes it's just at that spot where it's just a few degrees away from being front view, and in these cases i think small hints like that are enough to tell the difference.

>>2255581
this.

>>2255600
a competitive spirit maybe. but that's not what you're doing. you're more like some chucklefuck observer sitting at home comparing their favorite idols on tv.
talk about competition when you're part of the competition.

>>2255613
nah
kyles been here for ages
he killed lotsa people
this guys pretty much next in his list

i bet hes gonna show his art next and get samefaggot replies and samefaggot critiques so he can remain on top.of the pecking order.

>>2255588
yes, i mena the reline. it looks fucking cool, the way you have it thicker at the ends, instead the usual thin ends you get with decreasing pressure you get by lifting the pen.

this is the first time im concidering trying out manga studio, because it sounds like something ill never be able to do in SAI

>>2255625
>missing my point this hard
i'm saying that the only people who care are people like you.
people who'd rather play fanboy than care about their own art.

>>2255625
> killed
> this guys pretty much next in his list
the only thing that kyle would kill here is for being able to do this kind of illustrations from memory lel.

>>2255630
I would love to try this in SAI (not sure if it has this feature or not) but I can't make it work with my tablet.

>>2255637
#BTFO
#REKT
#kyleonsuicidewatch

>>2255570
Perspective it is!

>>2255572
So.. like every poster in these threads then?

slutty elves

>>2255149
ridevan.tumblr

>>2255677
I try to add little local values in places to add interest.

>>2255709
That could work, I'll experiment with that!

>>2255274
Awesome, what's your hf name? I would rather request privately, it's kinda.. /d/

>>2253818
Her left leg looks broken as all hell and her right one either needs something propping it up, or you need to bend that knee a bit for a loose hang.

>>2255640
no idea how youd do it in SAI, not sure its even possible. btw, can i see the managa studio settings plese?

>>2255581
>let's make it a competition at all costs.

Yes, lets. Fuck off if you just want to circle jerk like a faggot.

>>2255709
Love the line work, really brings out their forms

>>2255750
How about you fuck off, fag?
Go being an idiot (who probably doesn't even draw (good)) somewhere else, retard.

>>2255774
>you don't want to circle jerk
>you must not be good at drawing

Do everyone a favor and end yourself.

>>2255757
Lol, It's exactly the forms that aren't brought out in this mess. Even though he tries to build shapes he fails miserably and he makes them flat as hell.

>>2255775
Nah, I'm so much better than you, to listen to your advice.

>>2255776
Care to redline?

>>2255777
Stagnant artists aren't good artists and only stagnant artists circle jerk with faggots online, drawing porn no less.

Looks like this thread's getting nasty.

Have some of my lewd.

>>2255809
RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEsize

>>2255809
>5088x6528

Holy shit nigger, I'm not looking for microbes

But those are some sexy pants

>>2255809
Is that a boy or a girl hanging?

This is very important.

>>2255576
remember that the jaw is able to move separate from the skull, and with the mouth open that wide in pleasure, it most often will hang slightly to one side, and even headon (tho i believe the head is looking ever so slightly to the left, not a 3/4th view or anything, but to the left a bit), it's a general nono to ever have the mouth symmetrical because mouth shapes while talking/emoting are never symmetrical, it feels very unnatural to the eye.

also your ears in the bottom redline where the head's looking up are off. the ear on the right is drawn as if being seen from head on (and too high up) and the far ear isn't even in proper perspective, not to mention how it wouldn't be visible at that angle.

i actually only recently learned this, but it's been hella helpful for stylized forms. the ear doesn't actually always line up with the bottom of the nose and the top of the brow, it actually lines up with the cheekbone, which is super helpful if you're drawing larger eyes and having trouble figuring out where the ears should attach if you don't want to draw them goofily big.

>>2255588
that's a very good way to emulate bleed, i would say that's seems more felt tipped pen than ball-point tho

>>2255600
the artists themselves have to be competitive, a couple anon's pitting them against each other in some kind of imaginary king of the thread competition won't do much besides possibly bother them enough to leave which i guess truly is the ulterior motive of most trolls

>>2255809
don't care how poofy the hair is, make it echo the head shape or else it'll look goof a fuck (also pls remember 2 resize ;-; )

>>2255781
i wasn't talking about my art, tardo.

You guys should really stop shitposting so much and draw more.
Latest panel.

>>2255847
berry good

>>2255847
finally some good art in here

And I guess another. Not a proper scan sadly, yet. I feel like I fucked up some bits.

>>2255815
Whoa shit, didn't even mean to post that version. On phone, in a rush. No wonder it was such a file size.

>>2255820
Girl. Flattie though.

>>2255826
You are correct, though this drawing is a bit old. Just one of the ones I still like. I really do appreciate it though, maybe I'm still fucking that part up.

>>2255820
>Girl

You made my fucking day

>>2253859
>(on my native language board).
you cheeky shit.

some nice work going on here

moo

>>2255512
proportion, perspective and a little bit of anatomy

other anon is right with value, you're going to have to darken things up a bit more

>>2255909
technical perfection
love it

>>2255909
hey, cows were my thing ;-;
(supes nice tho, any site?)

the heads of the giant dongs are a lil off tho
also are you gonna try to attach them dingles to something or jus keep em floatin, i'm a lil curious

>>2255949
No site
the dong heads are off because i didnt spend any time on them and just made spheres with cones shape things attached.
I'm done with this one i think
Smutbrush on Rule34paheal but nothing on it yet

>>2252547
I'll post qt chubbs later

some for r34 profile

>>2255847
>...and then she farts!

>>2256002
there you are, my dear friend

>>2255999
what brush settings/program do you use to get those lines, it seems to be like a flat line that locks in the direction you first stroke so that you can get some neat line variation, not too dissimilar to a pilot parallel

>>2256013
softchisel 2 dual from Kienan Lafferty's brush set
(available on deviantart)

basically what you described.

Doing a study of the drawing on the right.
It was done in SAI, and i'm trying to replicate the brush settings he used for coloring. I think im close. I'm guessing shadows are done with the water tool using some percentage of the paper texture, or perhaps blocked in with a different brush then the edges gone over with the water tool.

>>2256016
danke, friend~

>>2256032
i don't wanna sound mean, but i feel like you should focus more on fundamentals than style studies at the moment, but you know, you do you

the secret to most watercolor brushes is trying to use them like actual water color brushes tho

>>2256047

Not the guy who posted it, but what do you even mean by "focus more on fundamentals?"
That's the biggest non-critique because it could mean practically anything, and his stuff doesn't look that amateurish to me so maybe you'd help him more if you told him what fundamental stuff he's doing wrong.

>>2256047
I'm not studying the drawing, i'm trying to replicate the method of COLORING. The drawing itself doesnt matter in this case. bothering to critique the construction of the drawing itself is beside the point entirely.

>>2255741
chair arm is propping right leg up, tryinna fix the left one

>>2255446
Colored, workin' backwards.

sketch before passing out

>>2256191
The thumbnail is great. Personally, I'd give her mouth more depth. Nice job either way.

Thoughts?

>>2256221
brush up on dem fundamentals

Guys, how scaleable is porn as an income source really?

How many comissions would people at the top get if they still did them, for say 250-300$ ?

Do you think people like doxy, zeronis, kr0n (assuming he did porn) would get something around 100 comissions a month for that price? maybe even more?

I'm trying to decide if porn might be something worth pursuing more seriously, as opposed to other kinds of art. lol.

>>2256249
>100 commissions a month
>maybe even more
>lol

>>2256253

Please say something useful.

>>2256256
Try not being retarded first.

>>2256258

No idea why you think I'm being retarded. You are being the typical 4chan neckbeard retard talking in greentext saying absolutely nothing other than

>lol

>ur so stupid

>implying

>try not being an idiot

>haha yeah right

fucking hate this place and all of the neckbeard imbeciles like you who spend time here for 'fun' rather than for a purpose.

>>2256262
Not that guy, but you do realize with the numbers you gave they would be making $300k per year, right?

>>2256249
If your goal is to provide for yourself and only yourself, porn can get you by. If you've got mouths to feed or plan to in the future, porn isn't going to cut it. While porn is easy money, it doesn't provide many opportunities to grow as an artist or entrepreneur. You're stuck selling to the same small circle of people. You have to do other shit. Porn should never be your main focus IMHO, just a fun side gig. Pornfags will try to convince you otherwise though.

>>2256264

I do, and I know that that's not what happens. I also realize there's no way they would have the time to do that many comissions.

My question was aimed at finding out wether these guys would be in such high demand despite high comission prices. Would they be getting 30 emails with comission requests on an average month? maybe 60? maybe 100? That's the information I'm after.

>>2256262
>typical 4chan neckbeard retard
>who spend time here for 'fun' rather than for a purpose.


hahahaha oh wow whats it like being autistic?

>>2256262
sure they're being a dick, but it's very obvious they're doubting your ability (anyone's really) to do 100 commissions at the quality of those examples you listed in a month. that's slightly more than three pieces a day on average, that's not sustainable, i guarantee you would burn out. even the biggest smut artists tend to only churn out one to two hundred or so big finished pieces a year.

>>2256273
>>2256274

sorry i forgot to formulate my question in a way that makes it retard proof.

>>2256272
a lot of it is honestly the scarcity factor.
most big porn artists rarely open for commission, so when they do, people are willing to pay a premium because it may be their only chance to grab it, especially if it's an auction.

>>2256249
No point in comparing porn income to zeronis or kr0n, since they're both statistical outliers AND acutal industry professionals who've been making enough polished fanart to generate widespread (outside of porn) interest for years.

doxy is a better example, but people like him and incase mostly get their attention/income through projects like comics now. But really, making as much as either of them off of just commissions without building a very large fanbase first doesn't sound very feasible. Game projects like Future Fragments and Breeding Season seem to have strong patreon followings, so they could be more scalable than commissions. I'm not aware of other good examples, tho.

If you want a more accurate answer, go check out popular porn artists' tumblrs or hentaifoundry pages, their rates, and how often they post finished commissions/how many slots they offer in a given time period.

>>2256276
what the fuck is your problem anon

> spend time here for 'fun' rather than for a purpose
>implying 4chan is a tool
>being this new/underaged

sounds like youre literally retarded. Not understanding pleasure in social interaction is a sign of autism

>>2256262
>being so retarded you don't realize why you're retarded

>>2255750
That's the completely wrong way of looking at this board and it's culture, the point should be for each individual person to be at a better place technically tomorrow than they were today.
There is no point in comparing two different people at different levels of competence, it doesn't benefit anyone but egos.

Speaking about egos, many of you guys in this thread are acting pathetic, grow up, get over yourselves, put your egos aside.

>>2254181
Love the character, strongly despise this supremely fucked version because the anatomy doesn't fit in the slightest.

>>2256276
hey kid, you need to chill, you made one badly worded question and now you're blowing the fuck up in the thread, go listen to whatever music calms you down and maybe go for a walk. a few people busting your chops in a thread should not have you this aggro, that's not good for your health, physical or mental.

if you really do want to get into porn on a large enough scale to make the big bucks, you're gonna have to deal with a lotta lil shitters crawling over every little thing you do, poking at every mistake and insecurity you let into the open. if you get a reputation as having a hot temper, i guarantee that will severely effect your bottom line while only making you a larger target for harassment (that they'll justify as you harassing them back (see phil fish, you do NOT want to be the phil fish of porn)). people like working with calm, chill, laid back yet reliable individuals (tho to be fair, this is 4chan and those are few and far between).

as x to the muh fuckin z said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJlpM6j1tUI&t=152

>>2256289
>All that autism

>>2254320
>crying this hard.

>>2256288
>each individual person to be at a better place technically tomorrow than they were today.

Generals don't lead to this. On 4chan, all generals ever lead to is circle jerking and stagnation. Porn Thread is nothing but a containment thread so these autistic faggots don't shit up the rest of /ic/ with their weeb porn obsession.

>>2255847
HAWT
MOAR?

>>2256307
what a douche lel

Porn threads are fucking hilarious.

>>2256378
and the art tends to be better than whats on the draw thread

>>2256191
And the other one

>>2256382
>and the art tends to be better than whats on the draw thread.

See >>2256307 You are one of those autistic faggots. Most of the crap in this thread is typical weeb trash. The shit seen in this thread isn't even the best /ic/ has to offer.

>>2256393
its good and people here are good human beens.

>>2256420
>pornfags
>good human beings

Pick one.

>>2256430
>trying this hard

>>2256435
>implying I even have to try

>>2256430
>>2256441
please stop wasting your time and my bandwith

>>2256430
getting what i want boy, why does that make you so mad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC-GflRB0y4

>>2256219
Not entirely sure if you are the artist of I'm thinking of. But it seems like the quality of your sketches is slipping. Don't draw drunk, bro.

>>2256496
If you're thinking of splooge than no. Any feedback specifically?

>>2256385
Rendering makes the skin feel like plastic

Do you guys think Doxy is as good as his fans make him out to be?

>>2256609
no.
generic as fuck

>>2256609
>his fans

Nothing is ever as good as fans of that thing make it out to be. With that said though, Doxy's work is decent. Some of his stylization choices are questionable to me because I don't find them attractive, personally, but in terms of technical skills, he's solid. Definitely solid enough for the what's he's selling.

>>2256609

I think he is extremely good.

>>2256609
Not really. It's nothing great, just ok.

People just like him because he draws porn fanart of whatever is popular at the time.

His tutorials look like they were just ripped off from others.

His comics have almost no composition and mainly use very close up shots making the whole experience very claustrophobic.

>>2256615
I have the exact same opinion as anon here.
Technically speaking he's very solid. He excels in terms of anatomy, perspective and coloring, although some of his stylization choices are a bit of a turn off to me, but that's just a personal opinion.

So this is where everybody is. No wonder why the drawfag generals are so shit.

>>2255889
does it really make a difference drawing in a cintiq?
cause i dont want to blame my tools but its kinda tedious to do linework with my tablet

>Why ever make a porn manga/comic with an actual story? Thats too much work.
>I can get paid the same making 3 page color comics and illustrations!
this is what patreon does to people. creative stagnation through complacency.

>>2256636
>muh creativity
>on porn
c'mon son

>>2256609
Don't like his staff. And I always have feeling that he's a scum. Don't know why. Maybe his voice.

>>2256609
HUH, never knew Doxy was a guy. I just like his stuff for the attention to nether-region idealization. His stuff is wildly his own style, and for that yeah I love his stuff. But I just like you can feel a lot of his passion within his art. The plumpness, even with skinny characters, is noticeable, it all just screams HORNY! But all that aside yeah, not too much to be said about his compositions, not too much detail (but simple can be good, specifically with porn). I'd like to see his regular stuff or another of his art styles all together different from his current one. I am sure he has it in him but all I see is porn from him recently... and mostly pony shit... ugh.

>>2256637
>thinking porn isnt art
tumblr pls.

>>2256647
>His stuff is wildly his own style
his stuff is kind of generic.

>>2256636
On the other hand I am considering patreon for the exact opposite reason. I have the urge to draw smut comics with better stories than the average porn scripts I normally get to work with.

Also, one of the latest pages I've done. Same question as last time. I am trying to draw these as fast as possible (this page took me about 2-3 hours for rough sketches and inking), still trying to make them look decent and appealing. What do you think? Too much anatomy/perspective errors because of the pace I'm going at?

>>2256659
you have certainly won the thread
i love your work and please dont stop posting your art no matter what people say about them

>>2256647
what brand of autism is this?

Doxy's work, while good, is hardly anything unique. All the typical trappings of weeb inspiration are visible in his work. Biggest inspiration that you can spot by just looking at his stuff is Poju. And his tutorials have spawned abominations who call themselves artists.

>>2256659
Looks great for western comicbook standards, if you arent planning on coloring it id suggest more variation of line weight, but im assuming you're going to color it, so it looks great as-is.
The only panel i have an issue with is bottom left, the fore-shorting of the arms seems wonky, they dont actually look like they are going past the second character, instead they just look sort of short. I'd suggest reconsidering their construction.
Other than that, everything looks good and most of the perspective errors are so minor that most people probably wouldnt notice. Most of my complaints are nitpicky at best.

>>2256609
Alright, now what do you think about InCase? Sameface or sameface?

>>2256634
I was using an old intuos 3. Bought a cintiq and I did not get any better ;-)

Digital linear is harder than traditional ones, at least for me...

Ok question

Obviously getting your anatomy correct is the no.1 priority, but would you say toy can "get away" with a decent amount more anatomy flaws as long as you get the basic for and all the giggly bits pretty good?

>>2256694
If you can draw cute weeb faces with big tits and/or big ass, shitty broken anatomy won't stop you from getting attention. Passable coloring will also help you get away with it further.

>>2256689
not who you're replying to but I feel like a cintiq would help me, since I seem to have more pen control and confident lines when i can look down and see my pen as im drawing, having what your drawing there with your hand feels more natural to me.

>>2256709
>Passable coloring
Like half of the big porn artists seem to be really fixated on rendering and lighting that is masks the anatomy so much. That and the detailed T&A.

guys a sketch ok.

>>2256634
it didn't increase my technical skills, but it did increase my speed (and line control, so i guess a small increase in technical skills)

>>2255709
anyone got some ref page etc. for dwarfish females like that? I guess i could also use yordle race from LoL for that... anything else?

>>2256636
>>2256659
Thinking on these posts, I have a question:

Are romantic bits during sex a turn off for most people when it comes to porn? I have a lot of idea in my head of some romantic lesbian stuff but I don't know if people like that sort of thing or not because I never see it.

>>2255709
I love little bodies like this, I have so much trouble drawing their anatomy. I keep trying to make certain features "accurate" proportions and it ends up looking very wrong. You did it perfectly, though.

>someone draws straight shota bdsm shit
>everyones fine with it
>someone draws vanilla loli
>thread explodes into shitflinging.

>>2256760
well now you know the tastes of /ic/

>>2256659
>soap in vag

nopenopenope

>>2256752
there is a market, but they tend to be very much on the left, so to speak, but i think as long as the lesbians don't stop halfway through to make a neolibeal and/or nationalistic rant you should be golden. they're not as big as other markets, mind you, but they're a helluva lot more dedicated to paying the artist, i'll tell ya hwat.

also furries. furries eat anything close to "romantic" right up.

>>2256760
>trolls trolling trolls
it's actually p simple but lol, "muh objectivism"

>>2256790
>don't stop halfway through to make a neolibeal and/or nationalistic rant you should be golden
Yikes that sounds awful
Yeah I don't want to do anything too crazy to ruin pacing, just something maybe a little cute/sweet in the middle, to show the characters are personally invested with one another

>>2256548
There's no form and the anatomy is really broken in certain areas. Like the sholders. Overall it's just very flat.

Darn tablet about to die on me. I Just got off work and did another 15 minutes before the tablet went dead. Thoughts?

>>2256803
this is the porn thread

>>2256829
Ok, I took a second stab at it as a warm up. Better, worse?

>inb4 polishing etc.

>>2256898
Honestly, no. Try doing some studies and come back to it later.

>>2256725
MAN THIS IS AWESOME. Do you post somewhere your pictures? I want to fin a more... ;)

>>2256725
That's impressive.
How do you end up with something like this? References? Studies?

How do you study?
Do you simply copy from a source then break down the image into simple objects? The orientation, proportion and shape is what is taken into account?
What can you use to study? Mirrors? 3D? photos? sculpey?

>>2257012
>How do you study?

Why the fuck are you asking this in the porn thread? Are you lost? There are other threads on /ic/. Read them.
>>1579290
>>2251401

>>2257012
Ditto to >>2257026
"Learn to see" is what I meant. Question thread and the sticky will help you better.

Hey guys, question:

>>>/aco/115726
How much work goes into making something like this? Specifically, how much work is involved shading and colouring?

I'm asking because I have a colour request and I don't know if this is acceptable request level or goes into commission territory.

Thoughts?

>>2257088
Commission.

>>2257008
yes both
>>2257006
yes im Tumtumisu on tumblr. Nothing interesting there.

I thought you guys will wreck it not prise it.

>>2256659
are the twins at it again?

>>2257438
Hehe. You have a really polite way of pointing out my samefacing issues.

I don't vary faces enough. I am not concerned about this fact since the final material is colored, but I will surely try to give more thought to it in the future.

>>2257441
>final material is colored
I gotta say, I love your colouring. I'm wondering if you take commissions on just colour jobs? Some artists have issues colouring others' work.

>>2257540
I think you might be mistaking me for somebody else. I think I'm not very good at coloring, plus I am very very slow at it. I am still learning color theory and stuff.
Also, I don't color these comics.

>>2253818

her arm and leg folds look really lumpy, like she's a paper bag filled with socks

>>2257088
>shines and value
Normies eat it up

>>2257985
>normies
>implying

Pornfags eat it up too.

i dunno

Obviously not finished, but I was hoping I could get feedback on the construction/rough layout here?
Not final line quality and somewhat exaggerated features, but I'd like to know if anything looks oddly disproportionate or spatially incorrect.

>>2257985
>>2257989
Not gonna lie, I do love oily messes. But for that level of colour/shading, how much work goes into that/would I need to drop.

>>2257989
He was talking about non artists people, not about mainstream artists, you dumb fuck.

>>2258185
overtly stiff poses, boring composition, hella wack anatomy, lumpy forms, way too many lines in a lot of places, and some very fucked up hands and feet, but hey, your proportions are almost kinna okay in some places

oh yeah, the chair perspective is fucked up along with the ground plane

if you wish to improve you need to delve into
-deeper anatomy study (live model classes if you have any nearby as well as lotsa photos and muscle diagrams to cross reference with them)
-perspective (take photos/movie stills photos you yourself take, and overlay perspective grids to help you understand how things tend to proportionally relate to each other as well as how things align to grids)
-studying other artists you like to pick up their hot tips and pro tricks while also cross referencing them with your fundamental studies in anatomy and perspective so that you can properly understand why-what-when-where-and-how they make the stylistic choices they do (or to find the mistakes they've made so that you can know to avoid them in your own work (but also know that sometimes you make "mistakes" on purpose in art for aesthetic or style, so it really comes down to your own artistic eye and taste with how much and exactly what you like to exagerate, do remember to try to have fun))

>>2258235
You're right, I hadn't noticed that perspective error.
I'm realizing I really need to do some anatomy studies and more life drawing, brushing up on perspective probably wouldn't hurt either.

A couple questions though: when you say "too many lines," do you mean the sketch lines that have been drawn over repeatedly, or just a lot of superfluous lines attempting to describe forms ineffectually?
And as far as "lumpy forms" are you talking about the construction being too irregular or something else?
Thanks.

>>2258265
The best advice people can give you is "read the sticky" and post your questions in the beginners thread. Sorry buddy, but you are really low tier level and there is basically no way you can improve beyond this point without first learning proper fundamentals. You should learn from the basis up, and with that I don't mean the base of a cock. Simply put, leave porn aside for when you'll learn how to put together simpler studies.
The way you are now is like you are trying to do calculus without knowing how much is 1+1. Yeah, you are that bad. Sorry, I'm just being honest.

>>2258200
>He was talking about non artists people

That's not what "normie" refers to you dumb fuck.

>>2258407
>implying normies on this board can refer ONLY to mainstream artists
>keeps being a dumb fuck

>>2258185
perspective

>>2258428
>implying non artist pornfags who obsess over fetishes and 2D smut are normies

You're the only dumb fuck here. I'll spell it out for you. Being a normie has nothing to do with whether you're an artist or not. It has everything to do with how much you value 2D porn and it's fetishes. Non artist pornfags still obsess over 2D porn and it's fetishes, meaning they value it a lot. They aren't normies.

>>2258407
>>2258428
>>2258502
I ment "normies" as non artists.
To them its two cakes, and to you, the artist, its a 3 layer wedding cake vs a walmart cake

>>2258612
>I ment "normies" as non artists.

So you're just using the term wrong. Being a normie has nothing to do with being an artist. It deals with obsessing over 2D and your fetishes. Artists can draw things that don't represent their personal interests all the time, specially when they can make money off it. So if anything, an artist drawing smut to make an easy profit is more likely to be a normie than the people who buy the smut.

>>2258471
>perspective
yea learn it before correcting anyone else

>>2258666
he done did good tho

>>2258471
you made the dick smaller tho and for that i can never forgive you

>>2258265
too many lines as in superfluous lines to show forms, IMPLIED LINES R UR BES FRIEN in porn

and by lumpy forms i meant like look at that girl's ass and thighs, not only are they falling victim to the lines going too hard, they look neither smooth nor round, shit looks all fucked up and lumpy, like a play-doh sculpture (which is not to say that women gotta look all smooth an perfect, they can be muscular or super chubby with cellulite or whatever you want to draw, but with what you're going for in this image, you are failing at achieving that. also her boobs are way too high, which i shoulda pointed out before but it kinna just fell under the whole "anatomy" tree)

>>2258471
This is quite helpful, thanks.

>>2258813
Got it, thanks for clarifying.

New thread
>>2258934
>>2258934
>>2258934

>>2257088
I could put anywhere from 2 to 10 hours into something like that depending on where I'm starting from.

>>2258951
.. would you be willing to do this for me? If u got the chops to shade/colour it like this, I'd be more than willing to throw you some $. Got a gallery?

>depending where I'm starting from
Wut u mean exactly? Note, I'll have the lineart ready, little to no touch ups necessay.

>>2255238
Ether you finish this, or i will finish before you finish the painting.

>>2255406
>Rebeca Sucrose!slashfiction

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