/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2246459
is this the "arguing about vagina realism versus stylization" thread?

Is that...
We'll always miss you bro

>>2246496
im always here

>>2246474
Don't worry Arkomeda will save you all, there should be a real in deph vagina tutorial soon, until then use doxy's

>>2246507
Dont joke around like that faggot.

>>2246512
>faggot
bye again

>>2246459
Can you guys please start containing your shit here:>>>/aco/? /ic/ is filled with porn and I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants it to decrease.

>>2246517
There's a reason why there's a containment thread for this shit.

Quit whining, get some common sense, and just hide the thread if it bothers you. It takes less than two seconds.

>>2246507
Where did his blog go? what happened to him
did he get sacked?

how am I doing so far? dunno how to do ass and legs, ass is over left shoulder and tits are mostly hidding knees, only left one is showing, I'm going to ink this so please I really need feedback for this shit, obviously out of confort zone as I'm not copying

>>2246547
>>2246569
your arms are a bit too long, try mending that

>>2246517
theres a reason why /ic/ is a nsfw board shithead

>>2246517
what? we're discussing porn WE are drawing here, so no!

>>2246517
>I'm not the only one who wants it to decrease.
Why are you even posting this? i hope you understand that it just doesn't matter what you want.
But sure, once you move all concept art on /v/ drawthreads i'll post on /aco/.

>>2246459
>Furry is allowed
No mention of loli though, or any response from the mods or janitors about the last opening image, which was definitely against the global rules.

Keep drinking the kool-aid from mikufag, guys.
Fill this board with illegal content by all means, do that for 4chan, get it banned in my country why don't you.

>>2246569
hands, bro

need some criticism regarding my drawing

Look, I draw my porn on paper!

>>2246459
Is that who I think it is? Has he finally returned?

>>2246649
>illegal content
There is nothing illegal about it where 4chan is hosted, and 4chan does host lolicon content on /b/, demanding not to post it because it's illegal in your country is pretty selfish, you wouldn't go on pixiv to demand to take down all
lolicon content would you? then why do it here?

>>2246662
>on paper!
At least scan it properly, it's my fetish, buy the paper gets in the way of my suspension of desbilife.

Why don't you post a link in the old thread If you decide to create a new one?
Anyway, reposting. If possible I'd like you to tear it apart, thx.

Why don't you post a link in the old thread If you decide to create a new one?
Anyway, reposting. If possible I'd like you to tear it apart, thx.

>>2246735
I don't know what gotten into you but you finally drew a cute face, keep doing it.

>>2246739
I don't think this is the first time I draw a cute face lol. Anyway, you can post opinions, but posts like this don't really help me in any way.

>>2246743
If they stop you from drawing girls with balloon lips and concave faces they most certainly do help.

>>2246735
Those gorilla arms though.

how am doin sempais?

>>2246750
you fucked up the forshortening ,her right lower arm is way to big,pay atention to weigth distribution becose your caracters pose looks unnatural as fuck.Study perspective,obligatory get yorself references.ceep on going man

>>2246746
Nah, they don't, since they are poster's opinions about what they think is cute. This kind of posts can't help me in any kind of way.

>>2246748
I don't see it, but I am sure you are correct on this one. I wanted to put her upper body closer to the viewer and emphasized the perspective too much. Thanks.

You ever get aroused by your own drawing? How do you stay focused?

>>2246815
I am used to edging pretty much all day, so i have no problem having a boner all the time.

>>2246662
*grandma walks in*

>>2246815

Yes. I often have to go to the bathroom mid drawing to rub one out. Not joking.

>>2246649
>No mention of loli though, or any response from the mods or janitors about the last opening image, which was definitely against the global rules.

You don't seem to understand how this site is run. This isn't the kind of place where you can run to mods for clear rulings because they don't want community lawyers running back to these precedents.

If it's too much, it'll be erased, if it's not, it will stay. The only thing rules do is set the board culture. After that, it's up to the adults here to read the mood and know what's acceptable. Notice how everyone but you can do that?

There won't be a slippery slope because this is an 18+ website that isn't full of children. Nobody is going to dump an whole issue of Comic LO because someone drew a little girl, and ponyfags won't start RPing because an MLP gets posted. That's not how things work here. You're supposed to know whats okay and what's not. That's why the phrase "lurk more" exists, and why we have the privilege of light-handed moderators.

You--and we all know this is a singular "you" going back months--need to get with the program.

>>2246832
>you're the voice of many

Again, you can take a dump on my art.

>>2246848
The foreshortening on the girls right forearm (the forearm in the center) seems a little off. And the hand seems a little small.

>>2246857
How the hell do I manage to miss stuff like this lol. Thanks!

>>2246848
The cock on the left is kind of high.

ended up finishing. Line work feels...dead, I dunno. I preferred my initial sketched.

>>2246901
nope your inked work looks way better than your sketched stuff, just get used to it

>>2246776
They can inform you of how your art is received by an audience. I agree with anon, this is the first time I've seen you draw an appealing face.

Keep going by the same principles and you could be able to cater to a new audience.

>>2246848
Cant find anything.bad on this.
Great job as ever bro. Dont listen to that anime tracer faggot and his cocksuckers.

>>2246901
after your thin lines use thicker brush

>>2246906
fair enough

>>2246921
that actually looks great to me, I'll keep that in mind.

>>2246735
your girls would be really cute if you stopped drawing nigger lips

my friends liked this, but i drew it without consciously appreciating basic shapes before i finalized it. the left leg is where i started adding shading, but i know fuckall about shading so i stopped. it's based on a bailey jay picture, but i made her look russian. the hands are badly formed because my anatomy is either non existent or amateur. it's still kinda better than some of the drawn futa shit i see. oh, and i totally forgot about considering perspective, although your eye is viewing her dead on, so it hurts the pic only a little.

one day at a time.

>>2246459

guys how much money is there in porn really ? is this something that if you invest into it for a while you can actually make a living with? and by living i mean not just get by each month but have a little bit of a quality of life without working 80 hours a week ?

i need to decide wether to pursue porn to temporarily solve the money issue or if i am better off getting a dayjob and spending free hours working on my actual conceptart skills.

please help

>>2247007
there are only people who starve who THINK they're artists. that's what they tell me anyway.

if i do get into the porn biz i hope my sexuality stays as narrow as it is now.

>>2247005
why would you show anyone this

>>2247016
what's the harm in showing your work?

>>2247015

I don't know what you mean by that

>>2247037
Your statement is a mystery too, my friend. I think you're just being an asshole

>>2247045

what part of

'is this something that if you invest into it for a while you can actually make a living with? and by living i mean not just get by each month but have a little bit of a quality of life without working 80 hours a week ?

i need to decide wether to pursue porn to temporarily solve the money issue or if i am better off getting a dayjob and spending free hours working on my actual conceptart skills'

is unclear?

>>2247007

Just check out popular artist patreons.

Doxy makes $1,367.03 a week from his patreon, thats $65,617.44 annually.
The average Canadian make 30,000 - 50,000 yearly, so he's doing alright.
And that mother fucker started with MLP porn.

anyway, you should do it for money, you'll just run out of drive and crash and burn, do it cuz you love it.

>buh doxy makes 60k a year off patreon
yeah, but his art is also very generic and boring, he draws attractive women, but its nothing special in conceptm he has great overly rendered bodies with large titties but he doesnt push any boundries and all ive seen of his work in regards to themes is generic fantasy bullshit thats just mediocre, with as much skill as he has he could be doing a lot of interesting porn but a lot of it is just not very daring and i guess thats why he makes so much money.

>>2247070

But isn't that just a superstar? Sort of the Mullins of porn art? What is the average porn artists life like?

I know it's extremely hard to talk about 'averages' in art ... but maybey some anons here have some first hand experience, I was hoping.

>>2247070
I wouldnt look up to doxy, a better artist would be Inoue Kiyoshirou, he is an absolute master. And its more honorable to strive to create something of value, like a story or a large comic book rather than shitting out 4 page colored comics and illustrations for easy patreon dosh.

>>2246918
>my audience is the only audience worth catering to

Do everyone a favor. Shut up and fucking draw. It's not his job to cater to your weeb tastes. Learn to draw worth a shit so you can make shit you want to see. Why the fuck else are you on /ic/? Comments like yours, >>2246746 and >>2246999 ARE worthless.

>>2247107
Calm down bbc lol

I started trying to learn to draw this past July, and I'm not really sure if there's any specific exercise or resource material I should be focusing on right now. I've just been drawing from reference for the past couple weeks, and while I'm happy that I've managed to keep practicing, I feel kind of weird just doing that without dedicating more time to studying materials, and I don't want to stagnate. I tried drawing this from imagination last night/this morning. I know it's really basic but feel free to tell me if there's anything specific that I should be trying to study right now.

>>2246459
can i get that image without the caption?

>>2246528
I remember browsing through his blog, but I don't think I ever followed it. Do you have a link or does it not exist anymore or what?

>>2247140
Can you open it in MSPaint and put white over it?

>>2247107
>>2247107
different anon, but
>It's not his job to cater to your weeb tastes
You're absolutely right. If theres more money to be made to pander to weeb cucks, Chances are bbcakes might hop onto the wagon. Thats only if bbchuck's audience suddenly drops dead and everyone decides weeb shit is godlike.

From a business standpoint cootiechan's audience likes his/her nigger shit; or his nigger-like features. So in your business notes, make sure to write, "nigger lovers like nigger stuff." Dont mock what he/she does when, s/he actually gets paid.

>Comments like yours, >>2246746 and >>2246999 ARE worthless.
No, these are considerations. bbcc's drawings have nigger features, plus trips dont lie.

>>2247142
mysteriously vanished

>>2247151
I miss him. I really really detest every one of you we could of had something good for once and we could of had been given lots of wisdom but of course not we had to have that one or two or several autists ruin everything.

>>2247176
>I really really detest every one of you
Hey bro, I don't mind loli drawings. It's a real shame /ic/ is full of tumblrcucks who shit their diapers whenever someone draws a loli

>>2247176
Any advice he gave could be found in the several artbooks we have on here for free (mainly Michael Hampton's book but also a lot of stuff from Successful Drawing). And in all honestly he wasn't that good to begin with.

>>2247144
>You're absolutely right
No shit, I'm right. All the flavor text you added afterward is irrelevant shit.

>No, these are considerations
And they are worthless.
"I think you should make her hair pink instead of blue" is a suggestions. That doesn't mean it's worth anything or has to be respected because it's dealing with stylistic choices and has nothing to do with technical skill.

Shut up and draw.

ass

lick

>>2247076
It is a modest life and I wouldn't rather do anything else.

>>2247145
>mfw you still won't share your gallery

Not even best sailor scout. But I like it.

>>2247227
>flavor of text irrelevant
explain

i think lip size and head structure is something to mess around with. Im unsure if its bbcs formula, or lack of knowledge. Also the hair color analogy was pretty bad. whats the criteria for "technical skill"

>>2247070
doxy didn't start with mlp (well, he kinda did, but that was yeaaaaaaaaaaaaars back before anybody at all really knew him)
drawing gay furry femboys under the name of onta was where he first got well known

>>2247075
he draw what sales m8, follow da munny$$$

>>2247251
>explain
What is there that needs to be explained? It's not his job to cater to you or this thread's dominantly weeb centered stylistic tastes. The faggots here should be learning fundamentals and how to draw shit they like, not pushing their meaningless stylistic preferences onto others who have different stylistic inspirations. That's all there is to it. He's already employeed and has a commission base who enjoy his work. The end.

>I'm going to play dumb and pretend to not understand where technical fundamentals end and stylization beings
Ayy fuck off, you moron.

>>2247243

Roughly how good are you right now? Are you near Doxy in skill or is his fame really a result of him being super awesome? Because I do think his work is incredibly sexy... but there's other equally awesome artists who make 300-400 on patreon and obviously nowhere near as succesful...

>>2247261
isnt it his job to cater to an audience? i understand his fanbase already likes his works, but you're implying he shouldnt cater to a larger audience. chances are, he doesnt need to. Isnt it best to grow? when does stylization become a crutch anon?

>>2247243
that torso is really long kep, didn't you guys just get a polynian, you shouldn't be making these anatomy mistakes anymore

actually polynian proportions probably aren't good to go off of either download design doll and Brek too but he probably doesn't need it.

>>2247269
>isnt it his job to cater to an audience?

Yeah, and you aren't a part of it. Now shut up and learn to draw shit you want to see. Stop pestering other artists to do the work for you. You're on fucking /ic/. Grind your fundamentals, you lazy piece of shit.

>>2247276
>pestering artists
Just asking a few questions. Also, when does stylization become a crutch anon

>>2247280
>Just asking a few questions.

>>1579290
>>2245493
>>2240001

>>2247285
anon, i want your opinion. I'll hop into the question thread later. Do YOU think theres a point when stylization becomes a crutch?

>>2247260
>he draw what sales m8, follow da munny$$$
I'd rather make bank off niche demographics than draw boring shit for plebs.
To me artwork is a passion first, and a money making opportunity second, I could care less if im getting paid or not as long as i can draw what i want.

>>2247295
>make bank off niche demographics

Elaborate on that? I have no idea what this would look like practically. Fetish porn?

>>2247295
he already made his money off a niche demographic with femboy furries, he actually kinda grew that into one of the main markets of furry porn, and then when he tried to draw more women cause he earnestly just wanted to draw women, then segments of his fanbase started bitching, saying he "sold out" cause he drew women, without thinking that maybe he just like tits, hahahaha
kinda like you're doing now, now that i think of it

>>2247271
holy shit where do I buy a polynian.

>>2247353
they're like 50$ or so off amiami

stumbled over to /ic/. never drawn a penis before. pls help

>>2247446
get reference

>>2247450
Have you been doing some anatomy studies? Not bad m8.

>>2247446
can i have a redline anon. your art looks nice
i'm>>2247446

>>2247450
can i have a redline? i fucked up the first post.
i'm >>2247446

>>2247450
AHHH, i SEE YOU ARE AFTER THEM HARDBLUSH BUCKS AS WELL
HELLO, NEW CHALLENGER

>>2247452
Only the furthest right was ref, which looks the strongest imo.

>>2247467
sure fam,I was actually already doing it when you asked.

>>2247471
Can't a man draw boipussy FOR THE LOVE?

>>2247480
ty fam. also yay you at least knew who i was drawing. your boy butts are nice btw.

>>2247482
Thanks, only recently started drawing gay stuff though.

The biggest problem I saw on your piece was perspective. Mabel and Dip looked like they were on different planes. Draw a horizon and establish a vanishing point to keep their perspective consistent until you can eyeball it.

>>2247480
WHY CAN'T iT BE BOTH

Hey! I'm new to drawing porn and digital art. Any critiques on this would be helpful. Also I'm not sure I'm happy with the head design - if anyone could recommend some artists that draw attractive male furry heads I'd appreciate it greatly.

>>2247534
the head's a bit wonk, the hand's placement on the ground is out of perspective, and that penis head needs some work, but otherwise you seem to know what you're doing

as far as attractive male-ish furry faces, what do you like, more feminine or more masculine headshapes?

i'll come back in a bit with a tutorial kinna thing with how to construct fur heads the ez pz way

>>2247539
Not the guy but I'd like to see what you have on more feminine ones

>>2247534
I just save ones from fur threads and tumblr that I like. There are all tipes of males, species, build, feminity.

I simply hate that the same porn thread mix hetero with homo stuff :(

>>2247565
dicks is dicks, vajabls is jables

>>2247565
Good for you, buddy. Just hide the posts if it triggers you so much.

>>2246848
Left cock seems too high and the length of her legs looks a bit short compared to her long torso. Other then that... I like it!

>>2246735

http://bbc-chan.tumblr.com/post/130939895168/stretching-process-video

Process video. I guess it explains why the gorilla arms and hands.

>>2247571
All true. I arched her spine way too much and thus her behind is positioned badly and the legs look short because of that. Another thing I'll fix if I'll decide to ink this one. Thanks.

>>2247521
I like the way you think.

>>2247250
he understands he's not good enough yet. that's an admirable thing tbh.

more of a lewd drawing. Before I go into detail I kept looking at the legs alot but I can't nail what it is that's off.

>>2247450
>>2247480
Just a little thing I'm noticing.
It seems that you make the ribcage a perfect ellipsoid. In reality, the ribcage's widest point is actually around the lower 3rd...kind of like an egg.

(This problem is very evident in your middle drawing in >>2247450, and the boy's ricage seems to be widest near his armpit >>2247480, which isn't true in reality)

>>2247648
This is nitpicking combined with bad knowledge of musculature, which makes for a really bad critique.

I really dont feel like im utilizing SAI as much as i could. Is manga studio better? Also can someone spot check the Lahmians face, im just not....entirely thrilled with it but it still looks decent. I dunno, first time trying out constricter fetish porn

>>2247648
dog, you forgot about lats...

C-can I try posting again, /ic/?
I want to think I've improved
Pls no bully ;_;

Oh and also, if you don't understand this pic, she's a dullahan. Her head pops off.

>>2247693
the cock is great everything else is poop

the weirdest things are (in this order):


the yo-landi hairline
the missing shoulder
the shitty face
the deformed fingers
the lazy lips
your whole concept of foreshortening
meme nose
default anime eyes
meme chin
and last of all the thighs are incorrect but the right one could be considered ok stylistically


git gud

>>2247655
>>2247682
Nope, sorry.
You guys are either terrible or retarded.

>>2247724

>>2247724
Haha, you are shit, and you know it.

>>2247693
>"blue his wife, with a blue little window, and a blue corvette," kek.

I dig this image. I drew the same perspective a month ago, and like you ifucked it up.

>>2247693
The head looks good, the hands look good, the rendering looks good, the dick is sweet, but what on earth is going on with that anatomy?

>>2247176
He's still drawing stuff. He has a stream and a patreon that he regularly posts to.

You can find them if you're determined and resourceful enough.

>>2247829
but his dick is not blue

>Da Ba Dee Da Ba Die

>>2247693
the framing is the worst of it, the close up shows so little of the body it's not easy to catch what is going on

>>2247730
>>2247799
Look, guys
His ribcages are a little off and I'm pointing it out. Yes, it's a nitpicky thing, but I point it out because he's at a level where understanding this little detail will make his figures look and feel so much better.

I would say give him a better critique, but this thread is so hug-boxy that you would probably just struggle to say something and end up saying something dumb like, "A-anatomy?"

/ic/ is so conditioned to do exactly the opposite of the WHOLE intention of this board, essentially rendering /ic/ useless

>>2247886
>I would say give him a better critique,

Hey, I'm the anon you were critiquing. If you had some more in depth feedback I'd like to hear it. I can evaluate criticism for myself and whether or not it's applicable.

>>2247661
I like this a lot.
Do you have a blog?

>>2247976
I have a tumblr but its mostly just a picture dump

>>2247851
detached head girl from monster musume

Can someone please tell me how to go about building a fanbase? What websites should I upload to if I'm just starting out? I was also thinking of opening up free nsfw requests, not sure if that would help. Would really appreciate some help.

>>2247143
no, i want the unresized picture without the text

>>2246662
whats your blog?
also how did you do that vaginashading? any method to it?

>>2248056
I'd like to see it

>>2248244
grouchybadger.tumblr

Fuck these fucking faggots.

fuck your smh, fuck your tbh, and fuck your fam.

Fuck all-a you fucking fucksticks.

>>2248399
Shut up and draw

>>2248399
tbh you need to calm down fam, smh

current thing I'm working on.

>>2248401
>he did the thing i dont like x'DDDDDDDDDDD

>>2248515
any tips on lineart, construction, or shading?
you use reference?

>>2248515
This one doesn't seem over refereced at all. Great job!

>>2248515
notice me senpai

>>2248515
Great pic. Love every aspect of it. The only thing that seems a bit off is the blonde's right hand. Even though the succubus isn't holding her she acts like she's forced into that position. I think you should put that hand in a more natural position, where she's struggling to get free or something along these lines. If she's tied up or in chains you should make it more clear imo.

>>2248515
nice. but mind the background. the perspective is way off. don't cram the hallway into your composition.
the other thing which doesn't work yet is the vicitim's right arm, but a fellow anon already pointed that out to you.

>>2248657
>>2248663
Thank for the feedback. Guy guy who commissioned me wanted Botha arms up though. The perspective is definity off on the background. Gotta work on that.

>>2248731
A quick fix, still keeping in terms with your clients wishes would be the succubus holding both her arms crossed together.

>>2248657
I cant actually agree with this criticism

>>2248800
If you don't agree at least let people know why. Right now your post has no weight apart of reflecting your subjective opinion.

>>2248804
I just don't see the problem with the hand to be honest. Seems like it's something you personally would do differently but I cant see how it would change the aesthetic value of the image.

>>2248552
I used reference the background and the wings. What kind of tips are you looking for more specifically? For shading at least I've being trying to have more hard edges and visable brush strokes. It looks better then a super airbrushed look Imo.

>>2248807
The hand being in a more natural pose would make much more sense and would add to the overall storytelling of the illustration. Right now it doesn't look thought through and thus sloppy. With just a little alteration the piece would look much better, plus it would make the story behind it more believable. Touches like this are what make good porn illustrations really good and above the average.

>>2248812
Isn't this just a tl;dr for
>muh taste
What's a more natural pose here?

>>2248813
I gave an explanation why that hand seems off (and I wasn't the only one thinking that). I understand this might seem nitpicking but as I said these are details that can only make the illustration better. Even if he doesn't make any adjustments to that hand, the piece will still be above average and good, but it's still an issue worth mentioning.

>>2246459

Thoughts?

>>2247005
Ch-check the top stub.

>>2247572
Man, that is a lot of corrections (pose and otherwise). But the end result is really good, so I guess that works for you. What is the point of tracing the lines so many times though? I usually just have a sketch, rough version with volume/anatomy, and the final lines.

Either way, looks good.

>>2248890
That's because I start drawing without a final image in mind so I just try different poses until I get something that inspires me to keep going until I have the final image. It's different when I exactly know what I'm going to draw. Well, I am pretty fast when it comes to lineart, so I don't care about the amount of corrections and revisions I make.

>>2248900
Thats cool. I guess that frees you up and makes things more spontaneous. I gotta try that one of these days.

>>2247572
Are you a chick?

>>2247645
what kind of pen is that that you put your stylus in? i have mine in a pilot G2

>>2248871
I would say make the core of the shadows on her a warmer tone or change the background. The legs still need to be resolved, the one on our left should be more in line with her thigh, and the one on our right should be more foreshortened

>>2248916
Nope.

>>2247878
i have no idea who he is but i'm intrigued could somebody drop a link?

>>2246517
Art is art, whether it's erotic or not. A shit ton of ero artists have their works on high class art museums and in universities. So don't be one of those faggots anon

>>2248515
Looks very good, I am just unsure about the pose altogether
If she's pinning her arms up, while also slamming down on dick, wouldn't everything become awkward real quick? Since she's applying forces in two opposite directions, more or less

>>2246459

guys how do i find a fetish i can conquer?

As usual, it's been a while.

>>2249018
>Sexualizing Ajna

>>2249018
Do a quick crash course on how to draw knees. This hurts to look at.
Excluding this and other small anatomy blunders, the coloring and line-art are pretty neat.

>>2246818
"But in my day, we only had one vagina."

>>2248905
I like to think about it the same way, but maybe it's just that I am bad at visualizing stuff in my mind before putting it on paper.

Here's another one:
http://bbc-chan.tumblr.com/post/131043662828/swimming-club-manager-process-video

>>2248931
I think it might be a pilot, I was looking at some alternative s-pens with erasers online and this diy was what I found in one of the user reviews. I heard too many people complain about offset so I was scared away from them all. This diy was actually satisfying especially the triangular sleeve.

>>2246901
have a page you post on?

>>2248280

In the short few weeks I've been here the amount of quality content has dropped thanks to unhelpful whiny faggots.

>>2249433
you mean like yourself you stuck up prick?

What about this? How can I improve coloring?

>>2249502
Meh, sidemouth isn't the best style. If you insist try to minimize the open space between the mouth and the edge of the head.

Also, why do people like to include generic bald ultra buff dudes? It has to be a straight people thing because they're severely lacking in anything attractive.

>>2249502
look a little like Mab's stuff

>>2249455
I support artists and give feed back. Also incorrect use of stuck up illiterate foreign fucktard.

I'm sort of art blocked at the moment trying to make a comic page
Does anyone have any foreshortening tutorials?

>>2249527
You mean you kiss ass and give undeserved praise allowing artist to think they don't need impvoement, the usage of stuck up is correct because you think you're above the other anons who critique on this board when in actually you're probably more harmful than them with your petulant crying and holier than thou attitude

the fuck off this board, go find a hugbox maybe Deviantart and tumblr will lick your boo boos you bitch born prissy

>>2249530
what kind of tutorial do you want fam?

>>2249532
> above the other anons who critique
Nigger next to no one here actually gives critiques.

You've probably never posted anything but shit and "study fundamentals" despite being unable to draw a circle. Also not how holier than thou works because I didn't say anything about myself, you just implied it.

Do you get tired of adding nothing or maybe being shit at English in general? Because I am and I've only had to read two of your shitty posts.

>>2249534
That's a pretty good guide. I'm just looking to ways to emphasize specific body parts from angles.

>>2249539
Yeah Doxy's pretty good

here's the rest if that not enough I might post more later

>>2249018
Ddaaaammnn, good colouring. I know this ain't the right place, but can I make a colour request? Real easy, I promise. Just a warning, it is /d/

>>2249502
Ddaaaammnn, good colouring. I know this ain't the right place, but can I make a colour request? Real easy, I promise. Just a warning, it is /d/

>>2246753
>dryfucking
uuugh

>>2248950
The artist of the OP's pic.

Regularly posts under the name "Simon," he briefly appeared on /ic/ under the (I assume given) name of "teal" or "teal line guy." He was basically known for giving critiques, redlines, and tutorials that were actually sort of useful--an abnormal thing for /ic/.

He eventually stopped posting for some reason--harassment, trolling, or maybe he just got tired of sinking effort into this place. I'd imagine most of the shit he got came from the fact that 99% of the stuff he draws is lolicon of characters from western kids shows and movies--not that I really care, but some people do I guess.

Anyway, I've heard that sometimes posts on /co/ (maybe /aco/ in the future, since that's a thing now), and some of his stuff can be found on Sad Panda.

Link to the tutorials/critiques:

http://imgur.com/a/8eHzD#pthYXew

>>2249502
For now it kind of looks like burn/dodge coloring to me.
Push your values if you want your shapes to be more defined.

>>2247005
well at the very least I recognized it was bailey jay.

>>2247260
wait doxy is onta?
Mind blown

>>2249706
Basically /ic/ acts the same way with any good artists that are willing to help others. of the later examples bbc chan comes to mind.

>>2249749
different anon, i think "good" artists on /ic/ tend to appeal to a certain group here. i dont think technically good artist come to /ic/. thats said, i like to believe technically good artists sit at home all day drawing.

>>2249755
What do you mean with technically good artists?
Have you seen teal's or bbc's redlines/tutorials? These guys know what they are talking about. With that fundamental knowledge they aren't just catering or appealing to a limited group of people. They could basically teach fundamentals, and I'm sure advanced stuff too, to 90% of /ic/.

anatomy on fleek or no?

>>2249780
>avoiding hands and feet

nah

>>2249768
I wont consider teal or bbc as technically good until I've seen their realistic drawings from imagination. Most of the time the tech skill can be learned from books. I think teal and bbc are nice, but not the kind of artist I look up to.

>>2249781
tackling head, hands, feet, and lower legs after i solidified the main center parts.

>>2249784
You don't have to look up to them,but you're holding them to an odd standard, since they both deal in stylization. Since when has the ability to simplify from life and make appealing designs not a sign of being able to draw well?

>>2249786
Figures aren't disparate assemblies of parts, they all relate to each other. learn them holistically, then concentrate on problem areas.

>>2249787
Ah, I figured I would also fail proportionately if I did them seperate too. Thx.

>>2249784
>Most of the time the tech skill can be learned from books.
Why is this relevant in the debate if teal and bbc are actually good artists?
Also, I am positive both of them can draw realistic figures, since having a grasp for basic principles/fundamentals can be applied to any kind of illustration. A few threads ago Bbc chan himself said that he is still learning how to tone down realism to make his illustrations appealing even when very stylized.

Said that I still don't understand what you mean with technically good. Are you talking about masters of the trade, or something?

>>2248515
Very nice work, one of your best! I kind of agree with the other anon about the arm that is just randomly raised without being restrained, tho. But honestly I didn't think about it until it was pointed out, I guess my brain just assumed there was a restrain out of view...

>>2248515
i love it! miles better than king niggerlips

>>2249784

Old school manga artists like Ryo Agawa and NewMen show up in his chats and streams, and they're not lolicons. I guess they see things in his stuff that you don't.

>>2249780

Some weirdness going on with the torso. The two diagonal lines just above the navel, what are those supposed to represent?

>>2249862
>king niggerlips
Haha, I'm getting famous. I'll have to start a patreon asap.

I agree btw. I'm pretty jelly of kyle's rendering and coloring. This last piece is awesome.

>>2249749
Wow, too kind.
People here just get triggered very easily I guess. My cuck porn comics bg seems to be too upsetting to some guys, but I don't really take those comments too seriously.
It's a shame though that there is so much hate and narrow-mindedness in a board (maybe it's just this thread, dunno) where the majority of people should be (aspiring) artists. In a sense this is very strange.

>>2249866
>Ryo Agawa

He's lurked in a few hella amateur streams. He's just an overall kind dude. And I thought NewMen dropped off the face of the earth. Does he still produce works?

>>2249866
>Old school manga artists like Ryo Agawa and NewMen show up in his chats and streams, and they're not lolicons
What??? For real? What the fuck?

>>2249880
Not really. There's obviously a massive amount of simple/narrow minded tards who are here just because they want the attention that comes with being a good artist. None of them are willing to put in the effort to become one though. So they're just here all day bitterly shitting on the ones who are good or on their way to be good while posting merc_wip and citing /pol/ in every modern art thread that shows up. Its not hard to tell them apart from the real artists, beginners or not, in this place.

>>2249912
>>2249958
Ryo is chill as fuck i've seen him around you just have to watch a ton of artist and he'll pop up in there streams from time to time

He does work and trades for a lot of artist that do voluptuous women and bbw, here's Mattsu's character for example

pretty sure Doxy is not Onta, I can see where a lot of people would make the confusion as most Wet/Hard blush artist draw as certain way so a lot of their styles look almost the same

also literally who is NewMan?

>>2250074
doxy is 100% onta. His twitter is Doxy / Onta

>>2250074
>pretty sure Doxy is not Onta
No, Doxy, literally is Onta. He doesn't even try to hide it anymore.

>who is NewMan
Pic related.

>>2249555
>this is my fetish
>can't draw it accurately
>artists' tutorials usually shit
Why did it have to be this way?

Any tips welcome but particularly on linework and how to make it more effective.

>>2246735

You're not a girl.

Don't go by chan.

>>2249071
Can someone give me the name of that song?

>>2249555
Thanks again, now I just need to push myself to make this shit look more appealing and more anime.

>>2250477
It's meant to be just a funny pseudonym. What's the problem lol?

>>2250494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xAueTwJFV4

anyone of you could push me a little with a bit of feedback? how can I improve this sketch?
>>2250596

>>2250601
If you draw where the horizon line is on this illustration, I might make a quick redline.

>>2246459
Where can I see the original?

>>2250611
I'm not sure if this is alrgiht

>>2250074
Doxy is Onta, if you follow/watch him anywhere, you should know.

thin or thick lines?

>>2250789
I like thin, cuz im a thin line guy, so my opinion is probably shit

>>2250789
absolute perfection

>>2250789
thick would be better but you didn't nail it, it's too thick everywhere and even when it's not needed to overlay things

>>2250789
Thin. (shouldn't her clitoral hood be showing just a little... at least when her inner labia is showing that much in the lower half?)

>>2250804
Where do you think it's too thick?

>>2250807
just shut the fuck up about thse vaginas.

>>2250789

Who are you and where can I buy you as a slave?

I'd say thick if blank background.Otherwise thin.

I think right now thick might be looking better in general, cause you weren't aggressive enough laying down shadows in some places (ribcage under the tit darker than bottom of the ass etc. you need more undertit tone or a tad darker actually, IMO). So thick helps to offset that impression somewhat.

PS you sure that's how fat deposits look on the inner thighs next to the vulva? I'd expect more underbelly visible, even at an angle.

>>2250789
Thick since its Skullgirls.

Though thin looks great too,

>>2250789
I'd go for thick lines.

>>2250809
her left feet fingers and nails, too thickl, cloth on head, hairs going out, it's the same thickness to contrast the background, you don't need it to contrast bg, just to acentuate forms, for example you can make it less thick where the ass is closer to the floor rather than thicker, you have to keep outlines from the right one on the left pic, as it only has variation between lines outside her shape or inside her shape.
Torso, hands, some parts of the hair and feet work bettwer with thickness as you're shading is not too contrasted, it helps making volume

>>2250849
in resume, playing with line weight does not consist of using small lines inside shape and same thickness for outlines

>>2250789
I think you put the upper body a bit too much to her right. It'll look much better if you move it more to the center. Also, I think thin lines complement the soft shading/coloring a lot better than the thick ones.

>>2250799
el o el

>>2250807
Shut the fuck up about your clitoral hood, it's not that noticeable in many women.

Here's a Martian.

>>2250997
>Mars people
hey this is pretty goo-
>Fio
Start over nerd that ain't Eri

>>2250999
>That ain't Eri
and why would he start over?

>>2250997
You draw exactly how I'm aiming to draw and damn I'm so jealous and sad about it.

How long did that take you?
Even a simple PIV sex scene takes me like two hours to do the lineart for.

>>2250999
>Eri
Such shit taste.

>>2250997
What pen/settings u usin fam

>>2251053
vagues aren't that red fam.

>>2251053

>>2250997
>Mars People fanart
Great!
>Desecrating Fio
You chose to use your powers for evil. For this I can never forgive you.

>>2251080
>>2250999
>Eri fags
also help please.

>>2251061
shut the fuck up

>>2251119
no.

>>2250997
who might you be?

>>2251053
very nice kep, especially like how you did the glans

>>2250997
Awesome. Wouldn't change a single stroke.

>>2251296
>who might you be?
Are you new here?

>>2251305
Sure, but it's easier if you just say who, you know, cut out all the witty banter. But I digress. Who is it again?

>>2251297
>stroke.

>>2251314
>Who is it
D

He doesn't have a dumblr or any gallery.

>>2251061
>>2251119
yeah mang id tone the red down a bit or at least have it pinker with red edges

right now it looks more like gore than genitalia, especially with the penis being a a normal color so close

looks great otherwise

>>2249310
ridevan.tumblr, not much more gay stuff tho

>>2251341
I say we petition him to get one!
Hear! Hear!

>>2251371
kill yourself

>>2249525
Can you show me some Mab's stuff to see?
Sorry for ignorance.

>>2251410

If I wanted to do stylized lewds(like shortstacks and lolis) about how much realistic human anatomy should I learn?

Do I use refrence pictures or.....
any general rules of thumb?
How many heads should it take to get to the feet?
What features do I exaggerate?

thanks in advance lewdbros

>>2251518
>do my research for me

>>2251518
study proportion, construction and learn some basic landmarks.

look at the kind of art you want to make, take what you like.

what needs work? obviously the linework isn't final

>>2251597
value structure, the face says light is coming from (her) top-right. the torso says the light is coming straight down.

Right breasts should cast a shadow over the torso. That's the thing most apparent to me.

>>2251597
>obviously the linework isn't final
obviously right now this looks like shit and you can't receive any serious criticism for art like this.

>>2251370
Can I get feedback on this? I'm looking over it and something is bothering me.

Think I'll stop here.

>>2250997
Think I'll stop here.

>>2251053
Woops, forgot to respond. Not sure what you use but I go Manga Studio. It's basically the default color pencil setting, it always has that nice texture. Brush density 87, pretty much all that's different.

>>2251521
>goes to help/mentor threads
>complains about questions
>greentext w Frogpost
nice shitpost m8

4Chan just wouldnt be 4chan without people like you. Thanks for the shitpost my friend.

>>2251855
>porn thread
>a help/mentor thread
None of the posters here are in a position to do any of this. He was better off asking for artist recommendations that do the subject matter he's trying to draw, so he can study their work.

>>2251878
>expressing an opinion
anon shhh, the cucks will chew you out

>>2250789
Your colouring is so good! May I plz make a colour request? It's an easy one, I promise. A warning though, it's a little /d/

Also, thick

>>2250789
Hate to be that guy but do you have a pixiv or something?

>>2251895
pathetic poorfag

>>2250807
>>2250814
Chill the fuck out. I just mentioned it cause it looks weird to me, but he's under no obligation to listen to my opinion.

>>2251896
yeah google bbc-chan tumblr.

>>2251900
Suck a dick. Let the artist decide.

>>2250789
>>2251944

>all that kemonomimi

God tier taste

>>2251957
there is no kemono aspect to it though

>>2251981
Kemonomimi is just stuff like animal ears and tails on otherwise human characters.

Nothing else.

>>2251988
but it has to have the nip looks to it as well - because then this ( >>2251904 ) would be anime

>>2251997
I don't know what you are getting at. Anime is something that is created in japan. Anime style is stuff drawn to look like it.

Kemonomimi is just characters with animal ears, tails and maybe some other features. It has nothing to do with how or where it is drawn.

>>2249018
The angling is a bit off. Whatever the fuck that is going into her is such at a harsh angle it doesn't look like it's going into her but like stabbing through her. And going to burst out of her abdomen alien style.

>>2252005
ofc it does, for the same reason that kemono =/= furry

>>2252015
Oh, so you are one of those people.

It's the same stuff. People that call it kemono just don't want to be called furries.

>>2247005
Kek'd to death

>>2251727
Pretty fap-worthy

Any critique on this?

>>2251730
oh nice. I use manga studio too.
MS master race

The india inks are really good textured brushes (for default MS brushes) if you haven't tried them already, you should. That's what I use most of the time.

>>2251727
I think if you put a little more pink on her skin (between the shadows and highlights) it'll look more skin-like.

With anything, try to add a few colors when shading. It makes the picture look a lot more interesting and life-like. I would have put some blue or purple on the tentacle monster, too. It's all experimental, try and see what looks best.

There was an artist here that did really technical stuff (construction lines and all that) and I really appreciated his art for that. He would draw chicks anuses kinda puffed out...

>>2252235
Why do the characters in your drawings never look grounded?

>>2252281
becuz im high as a kite motherfucker

>>2252284
meth is a hell of a drug.

>>2252281
a better way to phrase this critique:
groundplanes are your friends
something as simple as a circle shadow can help give context to the ground plane
fat squishing on floor also helps show the ground plane

i also feel your line art could possibly benefit from a more dynamic width. fixed width is good for certain styles, but i feel yours would benefit from more variation to show form, or maybe keep the fixed width but make it thinner, or don't, do watchu want, i just went to your blog to check your other pieces to see how your other lineart was and noticed you had a sideblog for nationalistic reactionary rants?? why attach your porn alias to that? seems like bad PR unless you're banking on them conservative bucKKK$

>>2251944
That's kyle not bbc chan.

>>2252310
Being a female drawing porn who also talks about nationalistic shit on the side is a plus to a lot of people. Imagine her audience, and it's pretty easy to see the appeal.

>>2252235
Noted.
>>2251727
Follow up in progress. It's a love story.

>>2252547
>>2252547
>>2252547

PLEASURE thread.

>>2250789
Thick, but clean them up a bit.
Especially around the long toe nails sticking up, and the blades of hair.

Apart from that, nice.

>>2249018
Scrap it and go practice anatomy some more.
I'm being honest.

>>2248515
Loving the succubus.
I think personally the blonde would be better as a hypnotized dungeon crawler orc, but that's just me.

>>2251370
clean it up (especially the shading on that ass), make sure there is a nice contrast between her and the background, like you did with the left arm.