/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2235429
so an otaku is fucking the dead corpse of mikufag, yup his life has come full circle.

:^)

>>2235429
>teal returns
Fucks sake

Doxy is drawing!

https://picarto.tv/doxydoo

>>2235545
okay, i see this every where, someone wanna explain this?

>>2235560
It's the salty byproduct of a /pol/ drawfag's feud with a Squid Loli avatarfag.

>>2235429
This image is disgusting, and a grave reminder of the type of people inhabiting /ic/

>>2235590
What are you even doing here? Go back to your hugbox.

>that pussy
>that nutsack

Gross, man.

>>2235574
I don't know it seems to me someone really wants to take away mikufag's virginity.

>>2235429
wtf dude!? I browse /b/ sometimes and all but you gotta be fucked up in the head to do that. /ic/ was one of those boards that were special to me cause there wasn't as much filth in this place 4 years ago as there is now. Now I gotta go back to sci I guess.

>>2235429
Not only this pic is on a high fucking level of disturbance but it's also drawn like shit, why choose this one out of all the good ones in the other thread, OP?

>>2235609
Or maybe go to a whole different site, a site that has a different culture. Perversion is an integral part of 4chan.

>>2235609
>>2235612
>cant draw fur because stop liking things i dont like
>cant draw futa because stop liking things i dont like
>cant draw gay because stop liking things i dont like
>cant draw fur because stop liking things i dont like
>cant draw /ss/ because stop liking things i dont like
>cant draw /an/ because stop liking things i dont like
>cant draw succubi because stop liking things i dont like
>cant draw BBC because stop liking things i dont like
>cant draw shota because stop liking things i dont like
>cant draw /hc/ because stop liking things i dont like
>cant draw anime because stop liking things i dont like
>cant draw fanart because stop liking things i dont like
>cant draw realism because stop liking things i dont like
>cant draw studies because stop liking things i dont like
>cant draw at all because stop liking things i dont like
>cant post on 4chan because stop liking things i dont like

Dumbasses

>>2235609
What is this /sci/ board you keep talking about? Would be a shame if someone where to.. pervert it..

>Come into a porn thread
>Complain about the porn

Fucking dumbasses

>>2235624

>>2235612 here, I don't care about the fetish and who cares that I don't like it honestly, my main point is that the pic looks terrible and I don't get how it was chosen for starting the thread.

Working on this, thoughts?

More pron.

Please excuse the furry lines of the eggs, I'll clean that up

>>2235654
If you can't even draw a proper vagina your work shouldn't be featured as the OP image.

Here's my first attempt at a "Hardcore" piece. Let me know if there's anything that should be fixed.

>>2235660
Inking

>>2235782
Not bad, but the boobs look like balloons, remember they have weight and shape.

Well, sorry for spamming this drawing but nobody else post.
Could somebody help me with the left hand? is driving me crazy, I have not clue how to do it well. Any help?

welcome to my twisted mind

>>2235902
Cool, are you that guy with the donuts in the blog header? If that's so your skill is great.

>>2235905
no thats sunibee, Ive been studying a lot of his stuff though so theres def similarities

>>2235917
>>2235902

gabe (if that's you), you're my personal hero

>>2235902
>>2235917
more like you're ripping some shitty artist off wholesale.

>>2235958
don't make degenerates your heroes

>>2235963

...but what if i'm a degenerate myself?

if i wasn't in school right now with responsibilities i would be degenerating full time. are you NEET? you have mad skills and i want to know your story

>>2235965
Gabe has a degree in chemistry or is majoring, and he doesn't have a "real job" atm.

>>2235963
dem furry autism bux tho

>>2235965
I have a BS in chem but I make more money and enjoy myself more just drawing porn all day from home so I'm doing that. I did most of my learning while I was still in school tho. Kind of tough to put in the hours for getting better now that im being slammed by monthly expenses and have to work work work, but hopefully I can speed up my stagnating progress soon.

>>2236028
Do you draw farts? Serious question. I love your style.

I noticed I avoided doing profile view on heads. Does ecaflip count as furry?

>>2236118
pretty much, but /co/ would love dat ass regardless.

How do you guys usually do transactions? I've been using PayPal but I'm trying to find an alternative.

>>2236241
I've actually been thinking about making a cheap store front and selling commissions that way. Like a wordpress site and conduct business through that.

Though I don't know if I make enough to justify the effort, it's probably the best alternative to your patreon/paypal models.

So furry egglaying is totally not gross but a badly drawn picture of a fat guy fucking a girl is over the line?
tumblr, man. smh. ill never understand you tbh

I heard there is a market for furry art, where can I find commissions? I've gotten some work from Hentai Foundry but other places might be better for furfags

>>2236313
F U R A F F I N I T Y

>>2236316

Oh okay, took a look at that site before and thought it was dead.

>>2236313
patreon
weasyl
inkbunny
tumblr
DeviantArt (bad you can't porn there only softcore)

just get your art and name out there "If you build it they will come" etc.

but your best bet is >>2236316
because of the high amount of traffic it gets

to be honest i'd rather draw pokemon getting fucked by humans than anything furry.

>>2236326

Thanks, good list.

>>2236328

Okay. Personally I don't care. I recently got payed $300 to illustrate two men engaging in highly homosexual acts and I'm a straight guy. So what. Sponsored anatomy practice!

>>2236333
post your work

>>2236333
>$300
thats a lot, i mean even really really good artists charge about 50 to 100 bucks for lewd shit.

I'm posting a lot in this thread. but I will go back to my hole soon.

>>2236461
now thats some good stuff, despite being garbage fur shit, i admire the skill.

>>2235963
what a time
to be alive

>>2236461
For an animal cockmonster he is quite handsome.

>>2236461
I love the face so so much

>>2236478
reminds me of some of the work by a dude used to roll by the name of fagjag

>>2236461
Gabe are you a homosex or a straight up degenerate beyond sexual identification.

>>2236461
post this but for the doge and them WoW toons first before ya leave

Will you get in trouble for editing copyrighted art?

>>2236534
this is absolutely pathetic

>>2236536
Please elaborate, while you're at it.

I'm here to trigger your inner art critic again~

>>2236897
>tracing another anon's gif
for what purpose

>>2236897
color pls

also please visit drawfag.net sometime

>>2236536
more like hilariously bad
I saw it and I nearly spit my drink

>>2236899
>anon states hes here to trigger you
>triggers you


gg

>>2236899
All I can say is that I didn't trace no gif, but I would be interested in seeing it though.

>>2236901
I might, I need to work on my shading and color anyhow.. I'll check out that site, for now I mostly hang out in the /b/ draw thread.

>>2237208
> goku fuck - Copy - Copy (2).jpg

>>2236118
got a tumblr? anything?

Does anyone have that detailed horse cock tutorial?

>>2237208

I've yet to get past just tracing my refs. What should I practice to get better at drawig freehand(-ish)?

Note this was done in 10 mins.

>>2237244

>>2237286
grind drawing gesture

also
>tracing
extreme and utterly pathetic excuse of a human being mode achieved

>>2237286
>tracing refs
Obviously that did you a ton of good. Try taking longer than 10 minutes. Put in some actual effort.

yes, i predict October will be the month of gay animal people for me.

continuing

>>2237220
ridevan.tumblr

>>2237535
Work on hand anatomy (prectice gesture of hands/palms/fingers put in various positions/grips etc.). Right now your visual library is very limited imo.

>>2237503
I like them, besides the bottom left dick looking like something you'd find on a school desk.
I'd comment on a few things but I'd have to see it refined to tell if they're genuine mistakes or just those anomalies that appear in sketches sometimes.

>>2237543
Your mom's visual library was very limited when she got a taste of mah dick.

>>2237503
Die anyway furry shit is worse than loli even if it's just to make easy money.

>>2237572
>worse than loli

Fantasizing about having sex with fantasy creatures worse than fantasizing about children, an actual crime.


Go educate yourself.

(I'm not saying that loli or furries are wrong, or indicate some bad intentions. I do however, feel that lolicon is closer to paedophilia than furries are to bestiality, as the latter includes a very humanized body and mind, distancing it further from the taboo.)

And even if the people who enjoy these niches are interested in real life similar relations, at least they can be given a 100% humane alternative.

(Disregarding the people who are triggered by the art though...)

>>2237626
>Oh won't someone PLEASE think of the drawings!

>>2237626
>fantasy X is worse than fantasy Y!

hyperion kek

Why does everyone here have gross styles?

>>2237656
You tell me cowboy

>>2237535

>>2237543
noted

How's this?

Anything too weird?

>>2237626
Furry has nothing to do with bestiality (maybe feral do?). It is more like monsters. I can enjoy aliens, furry and stuff like centaurs in addition to the regular human stuff but am grossed out by bestiality for one.

Furry characters are a bit like the difference between a chimp and a human.

>>2237626
but the only thing I fantasize is about children

>>2237702
elephant stump and soulless face

>>2237555
>I'm 15 and can't into humor.
It's okay, kid.

Give it to me straight, /ic/.
Also, how do I make a finished render that's production effective for the general porn buying audience? Cel-shading?

>>2237878
It doesn't really matter, since your basic anatomy and perspective knowledge is pretty much bonkers.

>>2237878
Are we trying to make some "easy" money with illustration, ha? Even though we suck major balls, ha?

>>2237878
Learn to draw first and then think about how to make yourself marketable.

>>2237880
>>2237883
>>2237885
Jeez, that was fast. Can I have something more constructive?

>>2237890
I think these anons are pretty much on point. To produce good porn you have to have a good grasp for anatomy and perspective, you have to have good fundamentals, which you don't.
tl;dr you lack grind and practice

>>2237878
>>2237890
it shows potential but a lot more fundamental grasp of anatomy is needed

the head appears very large considering the foreshortening on the foot and the fact that she is angled away from the viewer,also it's not centered properly and should be down and to the right more

i'm not sure if the vagina is out of place of the flacid dick is just drawn poorly, even flacid penis

breast need to rest more on the side of the chest when a woman is laying down

>>2237894
This drawing definitely showed my that my perspective was lacking, but can anyone tell me what looks the most wrong about it? Is it literally so garbage that it would be pointless to list everything? I know the legs and arms are weird.

>>2237899
I was pretty sure the vag was off... I totally see the boob thing too, now that you mention it.
Thanks.

>>2237899
these kind of posts are the reason art heroes here on /ic/ will never learn ANY-THING.
his illustration doesn't lack just the kind of refining that you are mentioning in your post.
his illustration lacks basic understanding of
1. perspective and space
2. style
3. aesthetics

he doesn't have a clue what a study is let alone an illustration that should cater to people that want to fap to art. bluntly put it is complete utter garbage. nothing more, nothing less.

>>2237900
>Is it literally so garbage that it would be pointless to list everything
something along these lines, yes.

basically what this anon said >>2237906

>>2237906
/ic/ is brutal, thanks man.
Definitely noticing the perspective stuff now, but with that being so wrong is there even something I could have done to improve the aesthetics?

>>2237912
Yeah, you could have drawn it better. And to draw it better, you first need to learn how to draw. You can't draw like a 10 year old and expect you will be able to sell your porn. It just doesn't work like that. I'm really sorry for bursting your bubble dude.

>>2237914
Don't worry, my bubble has been thoroughly burst!

>>2237906
>style
>aesthetics

You basically listed the same thing twice. Anatomy is a huge problem as well. He doesn't even have a basic understanding of the human form and it's mass.

Please help me with my yaoi?

>>2237944
Red dude has large face syndrome: face part is too large with a way too long nose, cranium too small.

Draw in the hands and feet and it will look decent enough.

>>2237924
style and aesthetics aren't the same
aesthetics is a much larger concept than style. you could say that style falls under aesthetics, rather than it is the same thing.

>>2237878
Okay, so I know it's a turd but I want to learn something today. I looked at reference of girls in similar positions and tried to fix some anatomy and perspective, and I got rid of the dick because it didn't make sense and I've never even studied a dick in a pussy before. Is this at least going in a better direction?

>>2237283
i would like some critic,im lost with this one...

>>2237697
done

>>2238096
looks better! I think the hips are out of perspective, something weird is going on in that area. Unless she's turning over, which in case, show that in the torso; right now she's prone.

they kicked me out of starbucks for this

>>2238176
The idea was that her hip was turning, but I think you're right, I'll probably flatten it.
Thanks for your crit!

>>2238184
For plagiarizing other people's work?

>>2238184
How autistic do you have to be in order to think drawing porn in a public place is okay?

>>2238215
>you actually believe him

a quick thing I did during down time

4chan can't handle the full rez

>>2238305
It looks like he's laying in a bed made of organs
also the spots are a bit lazy
other than that it's pretty great. Love the detail on the cocks!

>>2237503
>>2237553

>>2238388
>>2237503
Shyguy9 when has it NOT been about gay animal people for you?

even though this is done shouldn't there be more perineum exposed?

>>2236536
>>2236902

You know I could report both of you guys for posting simply for the sake of being unpleasant without offering any critique..?

I don't mind people not liking my art, but I want some constructive insight in what should be improved to better reach what I'm going for.

>>2238443
>moooooooom they talk bad things about me on the internet

>>2238443
How does one critique a pic of official art with abs slapped on? You didn't make that. If anything you can be banned lol

>>2238544
I'm just trying to convey the rules of this board to you: Only constructive criticism will be accepted. Rude or offensive comments will result in a ban.

>>2238548
How is that a rule violation? I'm not claiming I drew all of it, I stated that it was an edit of an official piece.

>>2238544
I'm just trying to convey the rules of this board to you. "Only constructive criticism will be accepted. Rude or offensive comments will result in a ban."

>>2238548
How is that a rule violation? I'm not claiming I drew all of it, I stated that it was an edit of an official piece.

>>2236534
Here's what I started out with. Every line that varies from that was made by me. I'm not saying that it's good or worthy of criticism, I'm just informing you that the two post you did post, is outside the rules.

Buut, if it can at least be humorous, I guess that's a feat!

>>2238548
You don't get banned for bad art practices, just horribly mocked and ridiculed until you're ashamed to ever show your work again. Which happens regardless, but the hammer comes down really hard when justified.

>>2238562
>I'm just trying to convey the rules of this board to you. "Only constructive criticism will be accepted. Rude or offensive comments will result in a ban."

Are you new here? There is rampant shittalking and no one ever gets banned for it.

>>2238566
Maybe we should start reporting more often then. I feel like it gotten out of hand lately. The quality of stuff posted might have declined significantly as well, but that is still within the rules.

>>2238569
orwell go away.

>>2238571
What addition has shitposting to this board? You can use /b/ for that kind of fun, this one is meant for constructive criticism, and the rules enable posters to try to keep it that way.

>>2238573
a bloo bloo bloo

>>2238574
I don't know what I can say to that that would be just an offensive comment.. Would recommending you to get tested for retardation fall withing the lines of constructive guidance?

>>2238562
I was half-serious I know it's not a bannable offense but neither is calling you names for editing official art and posting it as work. Its like a personal violation, if you wanted serious responses you should post stuff that deserves to be taken seriously. Why not just draw the whole thing, you'll get more practice and avoid any copyright bullshit.

>>2238563
i don't think I've ever seen an actual ban on /ic/ but have seen anons getting blown the fuck out so yea you're right

>>2238443
faggot, just be humble

>>2238576
:D

>>2236118
That tail is way too high. It extends from the spine. Should be right above the anus.
>>2238305
Now that it's colored, you can really see that he's missing some of his lower jaw.

I wanna do interactive porn animations. Is it better to learn tv paint or flash?

>>2238903

>>2238667
isnt flash made for interactions

drawn with mouse

>>2238667
Interactive? Absolutely Flash.

>>2238962
is she amputee

reposting,with litle update,comon help me out with some real critiqe guys

Any comments on this? Please.

>>2239059
Was this your dick reference?

>>2239060
They look too rigid?

>>2239073
They look like the ends are covered in red lipstick or something.

>>2239059
I hate it
she's missing her traps are non-existent
proportions don't look like the character
it isn't loving consensual sex exclusively with parasoul

>>2239078
Ok, i get that, i over do with the saturation.
>>2239079
How is her proportions not working, does it looks too short?

>>2239082
I drew what I see proportions wise. She's sorta missing her back muscles, but the biggest problem is that it feels that you tried too hard to make her sexy. Her proportions are already insanely pushed, and by pushing them more you just make her look like a different character. She's more slender, but with Oppai.

If you want me to do a redline of the original image I can.

>>2239059

Proportions in general are not in line either with the character, nor with any aesthetic that looks good. Upper limbs and shoulders make it look like she has baby sized arms, meaning they are way too small and short. That or her head is fucking massive.

Beyond that, waistline just looks off in this picture, like her upper and lower bodyare from two different pictures. IT doesnt look like they connect if you get my drift.

Tangents also ruine the picture to a degree. you have to be concious of this stuff. Left glans dick is in tangent with her left cheak, the left part of the inside x ray womb is in tangent with her right mid arm, among a few other less noticeable ones.

Finally, the dicks look unstudied, and their glans penis are wayyy too fucking red. Its like tumblr nose but for dicks. Erect penises may be full of blood, but erectile tissue doesn't get that much red. By coicidence, I would point to you to the dick tutorials I am doing, unless you wish to study dicks by yourself.

Anyways, here's another unused graphic I probably won't use for the next tutorial (probably)

Giving Bara a shot.

>>2239095
ya doin god's work, arko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQWac0qn6UE
god's work

>>2239093
Now i can see that thanks. Totally missed her slender figure, due to that thing you said, i try too hard to make them look sexy ( my art in general).
>>2239095
I trend to exagerate the view on the upper body from the lower. Though i get the baby arm (need to practice that). I also think the composition on this pic is ruined, i can agree with that.
And yes, i'd love to see your tutorial. Thank you both for this advices.

>>2238305

gabe are you straight up living in sunibee's anus now or what

squeaky hotdog/ balloon sculpture forms is kind of his shtick, you're even doing the same line-weight thing he does in the wrinkles of flesh

could I get some critiques on these 2 thumbnail pieces I'm working on?

I'm probably gonna finish one of them but I do like them both. But I could really use help.

I've also included the reference I was using. I hope thats okay. I'm not too great at going without reference.

Question - Why is hentai manga so gross? Disgusting seeing dicks everywhere and retarded ahegao faces. Do internet clients request this stuff too generally?

>>2239132
well, you referenced the picture almost 1-1. There's not much to critique. Comps are kind boring I guess.

>>2239132
The first sketch, her vagina is too low.

The second one, the dudes penis is broken or made of rubber.

>>2239095
tutorial update when?

>>2239196
i mean, maybe it's because im still lower than a beginner. isnt that what referencing is? Get the majority of the picture, shapes and such, and change a few or some things? If not, please let me know. i'm here to learn

>>2239201
alright, i saw that too once i put the pictures side by side.
Thank you.

>>2239097
update

>>2239213
You use reference to clarify areas you don't know, not necessarily lift entire compositions from them. You're letting the tail wag the dog so to speak, don't let reference dictate the illustration. You won't be able to find the perfect picture every time, especially with porn as it uses a lot of the same poses (tits/ass in view etc.). Design first, then look for reference to strengthen the composition.

>>2238962
かわいいです

>>2239115
>i try too hard to make them look sexy ( my art in general)
And you fail miserably since you have no clue what anatomy or perspective are. Seriously dude, get back to the basics and come back when you'll know how to hold a pencil properly.

>>2239213
>still lower than a beginner
>isnt that what referencing is?
Then stop drawing porn and start to learn proper perspective by drawing simpler things. Then when you'll have a grasp for what perspective really is (and in the mean time getting yourself some line-weight skill) move on to anatomy. All you internet/ic/ art heroes are the same. You all want to git gud in the shortest amount of time, and fail miserably in the process.

>>2238962
>drawn with mouse
you poor thing. let me guess, you were constipated too?

>>2239335
kek jelly.

>>2238962
Do you want to tell us what you ate for breakfast too? Because it's equally unrelated.

>>2239339
>>2238962
>Hey guys i drew this while putting myself through arbitrary technical difficulties and you must know so that you don't judge my we work with the same standards.

>>2239342
>>2239352
good jelly skills.

>>2239255
finished bb!
This counts as bara, right?

>>2239359
Bara proportions are usually more exaggerated from what I've seen.

>>2239370
That's what I figured. Then I looked up bara and came up with an inbetween of what I saw.
But yeah... I think I'm going to start an animal crossing comic or something.

>>2239339
>>2239357
If I wasn't aware of the fact that I'm better than this (not with a mouse of course, because using that for art is plain stupid) I wouldn't post.
Also, I wasn't criticizing the art itself, but the message the artist is sending. Just like anon said here >>2239352
If you are the one that posted that, then your attempt at defending your art/work process are really pathetic. I hope it's not you.

>>2239359
>>2239372
Before you start that comic of yours, I suggest you learn how to draw hands without the need to hide them behind dicks n stuff.

>>2239379
I thought I could draw them pretty well, for quick sketches anyway here are some examples. I have the no dick, just the sheath version. I would just rather should you guys the full glory of cat ween.

>>2239387
Well, imo the entire pic is pretty much shit, because of the boring pose, but that hand is really atrocious. And no, you can't draw them pretty well. I'm afraid pretty well is something you still haven't achieved. Well, maybe compared to a 10 year old.

>>2239421
Okay :3
I like the pose because I was experimenting with bara and a front pose was ideal for me.
It's also my first time drawing bara.
It's also my first time drawing an actual man looking guy in many years.
I can understand how I'd be a 10 year old.
And 2 second sketches are 'pretty well' I'd think IMO :3c

>>2239432
these are "ideal" bara proportions

>>2239435
Saved! That's the best ref. I'll use it next time I draw bara. ;)

>>2239438
the body is wide, and legs stubby, remember to practice your hands and keep your poses simple, if you want it to be dynamic use a combination of references and stay focused

>>2239359

Good in general , but what I personally don't like is how bent the penis is and how you've shaded/colored with much finer tufts of fur, compared to the outline. (I prefer the chunkier kind, such as in the outline.)

>>2239432
It doesn't matter how much time you put into these sketches. I think the only thing that matters in this case is the result, since you wanted to show anon and the rest of us that you can draw good hands.
There are just too many anatomical and perspective errors. Not a single one of these hands is drawn correctly.

I'm starting to think about making a tutorial for hands catered towards /ic/ and the problems I see here. But there are already so many tutorials about hand anatomy out there, that I'm feeling it would be just a waste of time.

>>2239359
For it to be great, I'd also say improve your hands, neck and faces a bit. All seem a bit on the thin side to me, for him to be a male. Also, facial expression is a bit dull, maybe elevate his lower eye lids a bit and give him a more robust muzzle with a grin, but those are merely what kind of face I find the most appealing.

>>2239440
>>2239442
>>2239442
Thanks guys. I love you.

As for the penis, yeah. I spent a lot of time adjusting it so I can see that my view of it got a bit awkward.
I'll keep the style of the tufts next time too. I can't be too inconsistent.

>>2239450
I'll do a quick redline to show you why your pic is boring and why it is related to your lack of perspective knowledge (not anatomy!).

>>2239453
Okay, thanks. That'll help me a lot.

>post loli drawing
>everyone too triggered by it to offer any legitimate criticism of it's construction
smh tbh fam

>>2239453
Not OC, but I'd love to see this. the hand looks off but I can't figure out why.

>>2239359
Compared to Build Tiger he's kidn of feminine. I however like the realisticaly muscled body.

>>2239460
Here you go. Take in consideration the position of his head is just a choice to make the pose more interesting. The position you chose isn't wrong per se, but the whole pic is still very flat because of the stuff I explained in this "mini tutorial"/redline.

>>2235963
hi gabe

>>2239261
>Design first, then look for reference to strengthen the composition
I try that, but I end up never really finding the reference that matches closely to the picture i've drawn.
But I understand what you are saying to me. I'll just try harder

>>2239530
Neat. Thanks

>>2239530

Did anyone tell you you should start a blog with these?

Because you should.

>>2235902
draw more rats gabe

>>2239568
I like giving beginners tips and advice, but I feel there is already so much of this stuff around the internet, that I don't really see the point in making tutorials. Everything has already been explained times and times again and I don't think I could bring anything new to the table.

>>2239579

Oh, I'm not talking about tutorials.

I'm talking about a blog about a roundabout way of criticizing other peoples' work they post online, showing to the world where they fucked up. You'd be really popular.

The "Thin Red LIne" blog.

>>2239579
>>2239568
honestly i think someone should make a compilation of critiques/redlines like these to show people what actual constructive crits are like cause i see so many people (including friends of mine??) who think critiques include whining about an artist not drawing in a style you like anymore

>>2239057
Give bulma some eyebrows and make gokus hair black, and make her nipples more towards the bottom of the tit, and make them plumper while your at it

>>2239622
Different anon, I always appreciate when anons give simple crits like, "study anatomy," or, "the leg/arm looks weird." It reinforces the idea that you, as an artist, should get back to studying. It also gives you an opportunity to analyze your drawing and solve certain problems on your own.

I also enjoy well written, and thought out, crits that point out glaring mistakes. It becomes an issue when anons expect well thought out crits all the time. This mentality can be compared to feeding a wild animal. If you feed it enough times, it will expect to be fed.

Now both sides have pros and cons, but the best way to fix a drawing is to actually study -- fucking faggot.

>>2239548
That's not the point, you'll never find ONE PICTURE, that is in the same composition, EVER. You design first, and take a composite of reference to fill in your lack of visual library. If you have a problem with placing a hand or how a limb looks in perspective, THEN you seek out reference for that SPECIFIC problem. Again, you'll never find one picture to conform completely to your illustrations, especially if it's from imagination, unless you shoot reference yourself.

>>2239646
Think of the this way, if I ask you to draw the Grand matriarch of planet claxon, you'll never find one piece of reference that fit perfectly with that narative. But there is thousands of pictures of Queens, animals, architecture etc. That can help inform the vision that evokes in your mind. If that helps at all.

>>2235697
that's not how vaginas work.

>>2239646
>>2239653
Okay I get it now. It's all come together. I've saved your answers and will apply what you've said to future compositions.
Thanks for clearing this up for me.

>>2239641
you can make short constructive critiques
i honestly consider "study anatomy more" to be a constructive critique when it is coupled with simply pointing out which parts are wrong (tho sometimes that is honestly the entire drawing)

i'd like to point out that i think it's kinna useless to redline a beginner's work, because they don't know enough for any of the corrections to stick, it's like taking a kid who's trying to figure out algebra 1 level stuff and you just drop some beginner calculus on them, they'll just be like "waht"

i really liked >>2239530's critique tho because it points out a thing a lotta people just aren't aware of until someone points it out, that perspective affects the figure in 99% of the situations you will be drawing it, save like telephoto lense style shots/sometimes model sheets

tips?

>>2235429
Any lolicon here with pixiv experience?
Does the tick box with underage characters on pixiv automatically adds a lolicon tag to your drawings?
I was about to upload a drawing that's not really loli but still underage looking/middle school aged characters on pixiv and i was confused,
do i check it or not?

>>2239749
Just one. Stop trolling and find something better to do in your spare time.

>>2239749
It's better than 2/3 of pixiv. Find a master with good draftsmanship and anatomy like Shigeru or even one of the relative unknowns like zngo or whoever strikes your fancy and isn't over stylized shit and learn from them. I like mutsumi yuu, but I'm an advanced kind of deviant with a taste for traditional art.

Drawing pussy~

Can anybody list some good porn animators on tumblr?

Any critiques?

>>2235891
What tablet and program are you using there?

>>2239884
muh dick

>>2239884
>Any critiques?
You have the same issues that bbc-chan addressed here >>2239530

>>2239884
Brush stats?

>>2239988
Ty.I'll have a look. Though i recently realized how poorly the guy was done.

What programs and tablet does everyone use?

>>2239992
I just use the normal brush with the pressure activated.

>>2239884
Does it looks better now?

>>2240036
weeb studio 5 ex and a bamboo medium from 2008.

>>2240052
have you ever sat on someone's face/had someone sit on your face? she is stabbing that man in the skull with her tail bone

>>2240069
n-no I havent ;.;

>>2237697
The face looks better on the previous one.

>>2239851
That's a good idea. My primary insparation has always been mitsui jun but i've studied a little bit of honda suruga. I'll study some zngo.

>>2240084
>study

thoughts? tried some new shit on this one and tried not to be trash tier.

I am pretty confident with myself but...that can be a bad thing sometimes. It can make you blind.

This is something I did and I was pleased with.

>>2240298
Hands seem traced or you just over-referenced the illustration. Try to avoid stuff like that.

>>2240438
Yeah I must have over referenced It. It was just a quick thing I did for myself in between commissions.

I will keep that in mind. Thanks anon.

>>2240483
Well, using references is nothing bad, at all, artists know this. The problem emerges solely when the reference we use starts affecting our style, and this is pretty obvious here, because of the contrast between the very stylized face (which I think is great) and the over-realistically drawn rest of the scene (especially the foreshortening of the hands and fingers). An advice I gave Kyle not long ago is to look at reference photos, but not copying them (not even eye-balling). Try to check references and then draw from memory. Of course it won't be that accurate, but you'll let your own style emerge.

>>2240527
This is good advice. I went to school and they always told me opposite... to reference everything and to never go by memory.

This is good thanks again anon.

Can i get help again?. I' stuck again, i feel like the guys is messed up, or the feets. i don't know.

I feel like this could be lewder

is this even possible

>>2240552
If it was laying flat, yes. To arc up like that....... no

>>2240552
Keppok?
Also, i think so, basiclly this >>2240555

>>2240555
I was thinkin' of adding panties on him to pull it up into that position.
Would it be accurate then?

>>2240558
Yes

>>2240551
Maybe the thicker end if the tail should be pushing up the tits and the end of the snake tail rubbing her pussy?

Or the leave tail as is and have her suck on the end of the tail?
Or have one of those ahegao faces?

>>2238215
I draw porn in public places all the time. I don't give a shit.

>>2240561
You would have to draw the panties between the thighs and stretched tight in order to get that kind of arc. Be sure to add taught pull lines on the thighs so it stresses how tight the panties are being pulled

>>2240567
Okay. Thank you. I'll be sure to make him look pretty meaty. Haha.

>>2240563
>ahegao faces

I dont know if i have the strength of will to not giggle while drawing that. Should i use some kind of rape face for the lahmia though?

>>2240572
You'll never know until you try.
And yeah, why not go with a rape face? lol those are always fun.

>>2240547
That's a dvice you can give to a total beginner that is learning the basics like building a visual library, line-weight technique, practice in general. I have the feeling you are way beyond the beginners stages of the learning process.

>>2240551
what are you using for character ref, that style's kinna cute

>>2240582
>>2240582
My style is cute or the Refs style is cute?

>porn thread is fur thread now
JUST

>>2240590
your style needs a lil refinement, please tell me what that ref is from ;w;

>>2240606
can i please live in a world where my biggest problem is that someone posted one fur image in a porn thread in the past 18 hours

>>2240613
oh god, no, it's monster musume or whatever isn't it ;-;

>>2240606
Let me guess. You don't even draw.

>>2240621
Wrong.

>>2240606
>instead of posting non-fur that he made, he'll bitch about it for the next 50 posts

>>2240548
So... any help? or its just fine?.

>>2240651
The face is kinda wonky. Seems like its more to the side then the position of the head is. Also the braid needs some work. It looks like it was an after thought. Since everything looks clean it stands out.

>>2240298
Is that the clit? That's way too low.

>>2240651
her feet have pretty much no grasp on that cock, it's like she's barely holding it with the tips of her toes

Guys I have a client who wants a bigass comission. We are talking 3 digits here.

However he doesn't have paypal and can't make an account there. He is suggesting moneygram or western union.

Are there any alternatives? From what I can see moneygram requires personal data, which I will definitely not provide so that's out. Does Western Union allow me to receive money anonymously? Anyone got any experiences with that?

Anything I can tell the guy to maybe get him to work a little harder on creating a paypal?

wip

>>2241038
Vagina is way too low. Boobs are too high. Collarbone/neck area is fucked. Love the expression, though.

>>2241049
but the whole body is curved back

>>2241051
She doesn't look curved at all. And that doesn't excuse the vagina or neck.

>>2241060
but she does?

>>2241062
Not that anon but the body looks only slightly arched but the pelvis doesn't look like it's away from the viewer. It just looks wrong. The legs bug me too. They look dislocated.

>>2241062
Topkek. You don't even know where the vagina is located but you've clearly got this one under control.

>>2240820
The vagina reference.

>>2241069
It didn't attach i guess...sorry if i spam. I am on mobile right now.

>>2241070
The clitoris should be located just below where her slit begins.

>>2241073
I gotta go back and edit it the things that were pointed out now.

Thanks again anons.

>>2241065
is the curve more obvious now

>>2241087
The body is a bit too detailed for the kind of stylisation of the face, those folds are gross.

>>2241089
well too bad i love this kind of stuff

>>2241089
He's not worth helping, anon.

>>2235593
Why? You don't like it? I thought it was pretty realistically drawn.

>>2239662
>that's not how vaginas cloacas work

>>2240912

Anyone? How are you all so fucking useless.

>>2241141

How is anyone going to wire/ handle money to you if you can't give them any information you giant pillock

>>2241141
>yes, yes, insult the people you want help from
western union's website has a page for people who process thoughts in a similar manner to you
https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/fraudawareness/fraud-types.html

>>2241087
her asshole looks like a vagina
also you forgot the vagina

>>2235590
>porn? In my porn thread?

I swear the people giving critique are getting dumber everyday

>>2241231
Which piece is yours?

>>2241233
The one in your mum lol

>>2241089
>The body is a bit too detailed for the kind of stylization of the face

This is a bullshit nitpick. If you're going to critique, at least say something useful. Don't just say bullshit to hear yourself talk. Then again, a lot of faggots in this thread do just that and aren't really in a position to be giving anyone useful critique.

>>2241237
Naw, if you weren't a virgin you'd be better at drawing the female form.

>>2241299
>virgin calling someone else a virgin

>>2241305
>n-no you
We're not all one rejection away from shooting up a school.

>>2241309
well good luck on your proposal

>>2241310
Thanks bruh. Maybe someday your waifus won't look like total dogshit.

>>2241295
>muh nitpicking!

Proportions are off on that thing you posted.

>>2241312
>Proportions are off on that thing you posted.

That doesn't stop it from selling and getting weebs off, which is the only point of cartoon porn. Cartoon porn has never been a representative of reality or anatomical correctness.

>>2241087
line economy, line economy line economly line eclmonlmy
bitch, i will slap the fuckin stylus out your hand
cut that fuckin shit out
treat ink like blood, don't put that shit down unless you abso-fuckin-lutely need it
the reason >>2241295 works is because they do only the contour, anything else is implied through rendering or should be left blank for the mind to fill in cuz tiem is munny and if you're gonna be lazy, you better be good at being lazy (that face is still too goofy and jarring but if it were drawn similar to how you drew your face i think it'd be fine, just move your eyes up a bit (or don't, i'm a post, not a cop))

and for the love of god, look up a reference for how leg muscles and fat and shit and labia majoras and shit look when you split the legs like that, that hip bone is just wrecked like an over extended slinky

also try not to draw a nearly fully encased breast, it makes it look so hard and plasticy, like you have to be super subtle with their line work, imPLY YOUR FUCKIN LINES, dog

>>2236118
one reason to love the new aco board is they defined furry

"For the purpose of defining what is anthropomorphic ("furry"), do not post images of characters with muzzles, snouts, or any other major non-human characteristics. Minor features like cat ears are fine."

>>2240624
Then you are either some kind of shitty artist or a 15 year old, if you can't see through the stuff that make you go all boo-hoo and concentrate exclusively on the art itself.

How the fuck do I improve my poses without having to rely on reference? I know this looks wrong, but I'm sick of not knowing how to do it right.

For the record, she's supposed to be taking off her suit after working hard.

>>2239662
Yeah, I guess it should be more collapsed..

>>2240298
went back and did that things that were suggested.

>>2241329
>line economy

haha oh man now i'm convinced you retards are pulling random buzzwords out of your asses

>>2241089
>The body is a bit too detailed for the kind of stylisation of the face
I'd say that depends on what kind of style you're going for.

If more eastern/Japanese oriented, having a realistic body but with a more stylized face isn't too odd of a thing. You'd definitely have to balance those two though.

>>2238397
fair, but this month will be extra gay.

>>2241455
>>2240298
Her pinky finger looks really strange, I can tell you were going for a perspective thing, but it doesn't quite work, it looks deformed.

>>2241473

>>2241475
the bara cat-man is an impressive coincidence.

>>2241463
Your art isn't good enough for you to have such an attitude. Seriously, chill out, take into consideration the advice people gave you, and ignore the shitposts (especially your own).

>>2241474
I hope it was the extra lines...

>>2241463
>one guy said a thing
>apply the statement to an entire community

Whether he made up the term or not (pro-tip: he didn't), he explains his point pretty clearly.

>>2241481
It still doesn't work, it still looks really stumpy and deformed

>>2241087
You've got a lot of lines on her body that probably shouldn't be there. It might help to think like this: wherever there is a line, there is an overlap of one thing in front of another.

Now, if her stomach and hips have some seriously protruding bones, you might get some of those lines, as they push her skin out in front of the rest of her. Yet the majority of that simply shouldn't be there because what you're trying to show doesn't overlap the things around it.

>>2241473
>>2241475
>>2241476

Hot! Also, impressed with your commitment, I'm far to lazy to make comics my self..

Still, characters and setting and all looks great, cant wait to see this finished!

(Sorry for the lack of criticism, but at least you know how your art is received by one unbiased anon. )

>>2241487
This should look less deformed....if not then I am just gonna live with it lol

I did it for me but I like to have people actually give criticism. It's a nice challenge to try to fix things.

>>2241455
The clit and the clitoral hood are still way too low, even though it is drawn nicely.

>>2241496
I actually saw that and went back and fixed that. Just didn't upload it. but here it is.
Thanks again to all of you anons. Your thoughts and suggestions have been helpful.

>>2241499
fuck...did it again. That is old too...the hand was updated. sorry for the spamming,

>>2241494
Actually, I figured out what's up, it looks like her pinky finger is lacking a joint

>>2241488

Ah right, thanks for clearing that up. I was under the impression line economy only referred to chicken scratching the outlines. As for the abdominal lines i intend to erase them once i start shading. it's more of a guideline if anything.

>>2241503
Are his hands supposed to be that feminine?

>>2241510
sure

>>2241512
Ok, it looks really hot.

>>2241510
hands seem a bit small

>>2241515
not including the one hand on the breast.

>>2241501
I even re worked the other fingers

>>2241518

>>2241515
fun fact, some female hands reach just about above the eyes. hell im a full grown man and i have girl sized hands

unless you're talking about the guy's right hand

>>2241519
its going to like weird regardless because of that position. but it does look better

>>2241522
I figured so, Thanks anon.

>>2241519
Yeah, now it doesn't look stubby and deformed anymore.
Perspective isn't 100%, but it looks like a pinky finger.

where can i find download of full ishikei's gallery ?

>>2241555
I'm pretty sure the answer is "on the internet".

>>2241646
he has over 1000 pictures im not going to search whole web and download them one by one. any full download of him ?

>>2241653
the answer to your question is still the same, fag
also, not your personal army, fag

>>2241662
get the fuck out you dont even know what that means you newfag.

>>2241555
>>2241653
Why in god's name are you asking HERE?

>>2241673
come at me brah
gonna faitya brah

>>2241729
i will fucking wreck you to the shreds kiddo.

>>2241729
>>2241849

>>2241519

Is there a reason why the pinkys nail is rotated more than the rest? I think thats the source of some of your issues.