/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2230884
Durer's good
Don't be afraid to experiment on your own.

>>2230884
Michelangelo

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>>2230915
OP said "nice"

>>2230884

Charles Dana Gibson

Honestly I don't think your lines are confident enough to start hatching.

It looks like it's easy but you just need time, but it's quite a challenge and mentally demanding.

You need to first understand very well what you're hatching to make it look right and I think it's a good practice for anyone who draws, but I suggest you start first doing gesture drawings directly with a pen. Take your time and try to make the pose as accurate as you can and using fewer lines than you normally would, with confident strokes defining the form. Do that exercise as a warm-up and it'll make your lines gradually better and more confident, I guarantee it. :)

>>2230936
yeah, and that was nice.
Oh but wait, it's anime, and WE don't like anime huh?

>>2230947
not my drawing, just was an example

>>2230984
>resorting right to this argument
it's just ugly

>>2231023
2 u

Nico Delort.
Look up scratch board works, etchings and engravings. Super crazy hatching skills going on. Also Gustave Dore' inferno stuff, so amazing

>>2230884
I would really like to get good at it. This is the only solid one I did.

William Shatner on 20 X 15 Poster board.

I like Travel Foreman's hatching.

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>>2230884
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>>2231125
you need work

>>2231125
The other anon is being a dick. This looks good man. I really like it.

>>2231125
first anon is a meanie

the hatching on the face is wonderful, you rendered the nose and eyes well

This is my personal preference but I would like to see more of that cleaner linework around the whole piece.

Just read berserk, asshole

A mixed media piece of mine.
Doing mark making and line work is really essential to me! I can't imagine going without it.

Rip me apart

>>2233659
That's not crosshatching

>>2230947
you're so sweet

>>2233664
Alright,I agree this piece isn't composed completely of crosshatching. Sorry about that,I'll try to work on something new.

>>2230936
>implying you can do better

>>2234187
like le ughhhhhhhh............. where the big red nose and like big silly eyes... fucking weebshit

Bernie Wrightson's Frankenstein is a beautifully realized masterpiece

>>2234205
moooooooooot... oh wait

>>2234187
Looked good until I saw those hands

>>2234207
holy shit. thats beautiful.

>>2234207
is this pen, or litho etching?

Make way y'all. Too bad the picture is sorta bad.

>>2231151
yeah the knuckles on that are pretty fuckin' hot.

>>2233612
>>2233647
why samefag twice?

>>2234219
why did you had to point it out? WHY?

>>2234247
Doesn't look like crosshatching tbh

>>2234187
got any more from the same artist?

>>2234556
Open the full size and zoom in. Its all line.

>>2234810
wrong image

>>2234742
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=3074351

>>2234807
That's nice. Who is the artist?

>>2234796
holy fuck

>>2230884
OP i think your drawing is pretty good. the construction is present. you're initial outlines are a little unsure but it still looks good.

how into jaw?

>>2234810
this is fucking beautiful. thank godyou posted the wrong file.

>>2234207
preach

Please post more, good inking has become the only way I can get a boner

>>2231125
the hatching is great but the anatomy looks all busted. Like, wtf is up with the nose? And the part where the bridge of the nose attaches to the brow is clearly wrong. I think it's very important for portrait drawing to get the feel of the form of that particular part of the head; you can get away with fudging things like the ears or the cranium, but that part is what people stare at during conversation so it's pretty important to get it right. IMO.

>>2231151
Am I the only one who thinks the intense use of black ink in american comics clashes badly with the colors? Cause in pixel art that's considered pretty much a cardinal sin. So why is it cool for comics to do it? It looks pretty bad imo. To be clear, I think it looks great in monochrome. Just not with color. Like, it would look better if the inner outlines where a very dark shade of the fill color.

>>2235758
It used to be that comics were printed on cheap-as-shit newsprint, so bright saturated colors where pretty much a requirement to not have everything look muddy, and the deep blacks helped to define forms.

Now you've got people doing that same shit, but since it's not printed on newsprint it looks completely different and a lot shittier.

>>2235161
you need to do some construction first you dumbass! It already looks like a random amalgam of facial features

>>2235770
So would it be feasible now, with a reasonable cost, to print comics with subtler darks? Cuz look at the pink of the face, it really clashes with the black hatching. It would probably look better if the hatching could be an arbitrary color, but I wonder if it would be possible to print something like that.

>>2235786
>So would it be feasible now, with a reasonable cost, to print comics with subtler darks?
You can basically color however the fuck you like in comics now, they print them on nice glossy paper with much better printers(which is why a 28 page book with 8 pages of ads costs $4).

I think with cross hatching, what people tend to neglect is the actual contours and line weight, including where lines taper. A great deal of the effect of good cross hatching is not only in the hatching, but in the contours especially with regards to short hands which, having a good enough control and judicious variety, the work looks to be rather more on the effortless side than on labored, which many people working with cross hatching now tend to do.

It seems many think that the appeal of cross hatching, being made up of individual strokes rather than masses of shades, is in the viewer's sense of the patience it must have taken, like with drawing a whole picture with tiny dots. Keep in mind that working with hatches arose out of sketches and for quickly putting to paper ideas. It's a natural way to draw, and the drawings should look natural, excepting for cases of finished prints, which were historically to be produced by mass so more effort naturally were assigned to them. However the same principles of good hatching in sketches can be seen still in more patient prints.

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>>2230915
"Crosshatched"
You do realize there is a reason for the "cross" right?

>>2230884
Hatching in general has been my go-to as of late. I've been too busy to sit down and do digital so I've done a lot more pencil work. It looks way better than unshaded or solid shading imo.

Like pretty much everyone else said, just experiment and see what you like best. If that pic is yours, you're pretty damn good as it is.

>>2235897
You realize OP's image only has hatching, right?

>>2235961
He still asked for crosshatching
Can OP confirm if he meant hatching or crosshatching?

>>2235904
jaltoid pls go

>>2236066
>jaltoid
I wish I was that popular.

>>2235772
even if you draw from life? its easier to me if i do it like that...

>>2234187
>Implying in order to criticize something you need to be able to do better

>>2236229
>blind leading the blind

>>2236205
>even if you draw from life?
You should

>>2236245
What? You mean should draw the structure like anon said, or just draw from life? I do the latter already.

>>2236229
you can either show that you have a lot of knowledge, or show that you're as good if not better. he didn't show any of those, which means it was a shitpost.

To be honest, a critique coming from someone who can't draw a stickman for shit to me is not valuable, even if you're "knowledgeable". But that's just me, many argue against it. You can only speak from a spectator view, and say I like this or I don't, but don't start correcting people on stuff you can't do. the only thing you can critique on this is the chibi art, the anatomy, but what's interesting in it is the technique, not the subject.

and i'm not implying that you can't draw a stickman, i'm just using a generalizing "you".

>>2236258
forgot pic, it's sad that there isn't a single berserk image in here.

I love when imbeciles post their noobish work in an inspo thread.

>>2234902
>>2235904
>>2234187
>>2230915
Fucking loli scum. Why cant you pieces of shit find another board to infest?

>>2236351
>getting triggered

>>2236376
>spouting memes

>>2236379
>you can't spout meme here!

>>2236381
Is using reaction images really all you have?

>>2236382
is getting triggered all you know?

>>2236393
Thanks for proving my point.

>>2236396
and thanks for proving mine

>>2236396
Actually I didn't since i'm not the loli hater, but you're not intelligent enough to work that out for yourself.

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>>2237409

damn this is nice.

>>2230947
not OP, but thanks for the advice. very helpful, gracias.

>>2233466
but keep in mind that these are prints. op is looking for draw stuff

>>2234556

you fool

>>2234928
Charles Dana Gibson

>>2240154
rude tbh

>>2240126

who is this by?

don't let thread die, I desire more!