/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

i fucked up the lines... again :(

dunno if there´s a way to make the lines more fluid and pleasant to the sight. Any advice is welcomed...

>>2225658
You really should either draw from real life or study anatomy.

>>2225658
freehanding kinda comes later man

>>2225658
I'm starting to feel like a complete Loomis fag but go back and learn construction

tried using a different skintone and bluish shades as some anons suggested back then

am i doing this right?

>>2225815
I really like it! Maybe make the highlights around the eye lids a bit less harsh?

>>2225815
I'm honestly not too crazy about the skin shading, the area just below her collarbone looks a bit flat, making her boob look like a balloon that's popping out of her chest, also her face is devoid of any kind of strong highlight and her hairline is too high up.

I like your technique though, nice color palette and really good drawing overall.

how's the perspective and foreshortening on this sketch?

>>2225853
chair is fucked up man, and the proportions are plain bad

mfw I have no idea how to finish drawings

>>2225862
I'm trying to make it seem like her foot is closer to the viewer, is it translating well?
And the chair is supposed to have inward legs, but I think I should rework it to look like a regular chair.

How'd I do

>>2225870
Just noticed her horribly fucked up right leg/foot

>>2225870
>>2225870
Im curious if you fucked up the chair on purpose or was it a mistake? Either way I tried to fix it. That hand is way too big, and I tried to make her look more planted on the chair not sure if that worked. Also her head position was bothering me personally but yours pretty ok. Also couldnt get that leg right so I gave up

>>2225905
Dude, I love that pose a lot more.
Yeah the inward chair legs were on purpose but I was planning on reworking it into a normal chair.

I want to revise the pose after seeing what you did with it, thanks anon.

>>2225874
really nice job. This isnt really a critique just kinda how I would do it. Personally Id try to do something other than the plain green grass floor it feels really boring, try to create some interest in your drawing. And with a drawing like this Id avoid using those blackish shadows, add more colors, the colors I used werent that much better but you get the idea

did anyone go fishing this summer?

>>2225963
Just wanted to let you know that drawing kicked off my late night fap sesh

Now that I've puah puah taimu'd, I'd like to say that the legs are too long. Look at those petite shoulders. I can even guess the length of the arms based on perspective. The ass is acceptable. Almost comically big, but thankfully, not quite. It's just the legs that are too long. Almost looks like a god damn centaur.

>>2225870
where is your horizon, where are your construction lines

they are not

>>2225963
quick attempt here,
the ass is just too huge.
i really don't know if the asscheecks by themselves should take up more than a headsize of space, but i guess that's porn-proportions for ya.
well i tried to redline it anyway.

>>2226007
my man. God speed.

more giant lolis

>>2225815
whats your tumblr

>>2226110
weh cina babi
ko takde keje lain ke duk menyemak kat sini?
bangang

>>2226110
>...and then she farts?

>>2225813

Besides Loomis is Bridgeman´s "Constructive Anatomy" book the best source to learn construction?

Thanks

need help with colors. I tried reflected like but I'm not experienced with it.

trying my luck here 2, any critic and feedback is apreciated

yup, doing it like animu kek

>>2226184
10-30% for that, you airbrushed that red at 100% opacity on the face, don't just color next to the outline, draw forms with it

Did this the other day.

>>2226204
arm is sooo short, and tits sooooo huge, each one is two heads, that's way unbalanced even for giant tits

all from imagination?

>>2226007
>the ass is just too huge.

>>2226204
If you make the tits believably large it would look better

>>2226204
I like it

>>2226204
>picture loads from top to bottom
>oh, nice expression
>tits
>tits
>ti-
dropped harder than a truckload of bricks

>>2226204
what pen do you use

>>2226211
Original character proportions are here. original tits were probably bigger though.
>>2226219
>>2226228
you don't get it, its a charm point.
>>2226221
glad to hear that
>>2226230
Pigma micron, one of those cheap beige ones you find everywhere

i need some advice concerning screentone usage.
i seem to keep everything too clean and sterile, i'm mostly only using 10% or 20% 60L circle tones or gradients, and it just seems a bit boring.

some resources would be appreciated too.

inking as well. the sizes confuse me a little. how thin is too thin? i'm slowly getting the hang of it, but any advice would be great.

>>2226219
>believable
>example is silicon as fuck

more and more Undertale fan art

>>2226240
the anatomy is wonky

>>2226269
cute, the shoulders look weird, but it might be personal taste ;)

>I'll go and kill myself now

>>2225870
Feet are too big, the left shoulder looks messed up, and her head looks like a triangle.

>>2226240
>>2226204
>reverse cross
how edgy

What am i doing with my time

>>2226377
I really like the color palette, but you really need to work on the fundamentals before moving onto stylization.

>>2226377
Who is that little turd smiling at? I punch her in her face if she keep smiling at me like that. That is the smile of a terrorist.

If Season is around please give example of your construction lines / gestures. would greatly appreciate it.

who?

>>2226377
you're my favorite poster, pls stay fam

>>2226204
Holy fuck thats awesome, it looks like something a pro mangaka would make.

>>2226219
>believably large
fuck off tumblr, these are drawings. its all fantasy.

>>2226410
>pro mangaka
anon PLS

>>2226412
instead of whining about the breasts being too large like some PC bitch, why dont you point out something constructive like the forearm being slightly bent.
Seriously though, artwork is meant to be pleasing, not "socially and morally just" anything could appeal to anyone, and expecting exaggeration to adhere COMPLETELY to realistic standards is fucking retarded when the intent is to be appealing rather than an accurate depiction of reality.

>>2226240
Got a pixiv or blog or something?
i dont like cowtits but i like your style.

>>2226417
absurd breast are not pleasing, well constructed breast, of any size, are pleasing

>>2226429
this guy makes way more money than you drawing 'unpleasing' things. I believe the market has spoken, cuck.

>>2226438
"this guy" is also good and understands how to do it right.

you need to fuck right back off into /a/.

>>2226417
>implying i said that just because of the beasts
>"pc bitch" and other dumb shit
just go away. GO.

>>2226219
>fakest ugliest bitch
>example for anything

should have used the money from her boobjob on a nosejob

>>2226447
dont criticize a beautiful womyn, xhe is the example of everything beautiful and correct. :^)

>>2226007
>the ass is just too huge.

Let the heretic be broken on the wheel

>>2226438
if you can't get what "well constructed breast" means don't reply, it's ridiculous

>>2226472
Actually, did some adjustments

>>2226500
I like this one a lot more, the lighting was kinda confusing on >>2226472
Their right hand fingers look smaller and proportionally-off, you should find a more organic pose for it too.

>>2226500
play with color contrast
play with ambient
play with reflected light
add hues
you're only thinking where light hits and where shadows are, there is more
pic related

>>2226417
>forearm being slightly bent
well, they're supposed to not be perfectly straight. I should stop using my own forearms as reference though
>>2226421
I've put up a tumblr recently
http://6zure.tumblr.com/

>>2226516
Awful execution of your own advice. Even if it was done quickly.

>>2226516
you're confusing me anon, why is the apple glowing?

>>2226512
Darkened the apple and changed the fingers

>>2226541
Please don't fill the file limit with miniscule updates on your progress every 30 minutes, dude.

>>2226541
middle finger needs to be slightly thicker, ring finger looks a little wonky too, but other than that I like it a lot better, makes them look a lot wicked.

I do think the shading could be a bit more complex.

>>2226546
I feel like if I tried making the shading more complex it would make it too different.

>>2226548
Why stick to just one light source though? You can still make it complex without ruining the cartoonish feel.

>>2226553
Well if you mean to keep the same shading style then that's fine though idk where to put another light source

>>2226557
Make copies and mess around, experimentation is good fun. The worst that can happen is a bit of time used to create something you don't quite like. Maybe a warm light source close to his feet, roughly? Giving a sort of imposing, villainous feel? Have some fun, anon.

>>2226568
It's a girl anon

I tried to make them look like they're leaping or falling, but it just feels like stomping.

>>2226579
I haven't watched a single seasonal anime or read in-progress manga for a few years, sorry anon.

>>2226622
cummie a cute, CUTE!

>>2226517
Thanks, man.
I like the way you draw hands as well.

>>2226541
Eto! I'm drawing her right now. This being said, even with so little anatomy showing you've managed to make some mistakes. The face isn't flat and shows understanding of planes, that's a good thing. But you're still symbol drawing on the arms. Even if they are in the shadows, arms have planes and therefore tone variations too. There is variation on the face (which is in the shadows nonetheless), do the same thing with the arms. The wrist and the hand also have a very specific structure. Just look up the bones and study them, it'll be easier for you. Construct!

The light source confuses me, where is it coming from? What is it? Light is colored and will have different interactions with different local colors. You can't just make a color brighter and say "that's the light". When doing light, ask yourself, "Is it hard or soft? What color? What color are the surroundings? (this affects the color of the shadow; they're reflected)". Everything that this anon >>2226516 said is true.

>>2226541
I did this.

>>2226541
>>2226641
Forgot to add this pic.

>>2226204
Crossboarder

>>2226722
The kettle said to the pot.

>>2226641
I kinda get what you mean with the light source but as for the forearms I don't think they are defined when covered by wraps.

>>2226810
I've seen your style before, blog?

>>2226810
love the colors

>>2226641
>>2226643
>>2226553

K so I tried some of the ideas

gonna use imgur link tho so i dont take image space

http://imgur.com/Qn2ExPc

even moreeee undertale fanart

>>2226834
I meant a different light source, like bouncing light like pic related.

>>2226857
You mean coming from below? Meh. I think I like the lighting overhead. I'll try another light source for another drawing in the future. Atm I want to critiques about>>2226834

>>2225949
Thanks a bunch, I've never gotten a paintover before. Hopefully this is a bit better!?
>>2226582
Pretty good. I'd say tilt his head back more, but I don't know if you want to do that at this point. Also have his jacket flying up.

>>2226622

Progress from >>2223481

>>2226839
yew got a tumblr boy?

i am not gettin any feedback in porn general so please eviscerate me cause somethin still feels off an i can't figure out what

>tfw Wasp will always be better than me

can someone recommend me good artist that make environments in line form ?

>>2227054
tomioka jiro

trying to post process my sketches better, sometimes its hard to see where shit starts and ends.
>1 tried to block out major forms + 2
>2 just colored linework + 3
>3 just blacks + fixed up 4
>4 original - no fixies

i started with a yoko ref, then i tried to fill in the rest with "visual library" - apparently my mind is full of mecha and bunnies

>>2227061
fuck, i meant to ask - which (if any) seems to read the best (1-4) ?

Also here is ttgl warmup sketch

>>2227061
original is best. Post processing is dumb. At most change the colour of whole layers to pretend like you're cool and do every layer a different colour

>>2227061
block values, not gradients!!!!

then block colors, then add render shit, and last, gradients, dont go for cheesy effects for first or you're killing yourself a little

it looks like a cool selfie, keep it

>>2227067

despine the books and scan them please!

>>2227237
Bunny was literally made of shit. not really a surprise uh
lower body looks somewhat small by the way

>>2227237

brush settings plz

>>2227205
>At most change the colour of whole layers
Heh it was a scan, so there was only one layer, I deconstructed it - but I get what you mean

>block values, not gradients
I was trying to be lazy and see if there were any quick gains for line work sketches to visually separate the subject matter.

>it looks like a cool selfie
Now I can't unsee

>>2227210
>despine the books
:( I'll take some more pictures for you, I forgot last night

Progress from >>2223481

The screen on my Surface Pro 2 is failing, (4 warping points appeared out of nowhere), so I had to plug my bamboo tablet to continue :/

>>2227055
moar plz

>>2226400
Haha, thanks i guess
You have shit taste though :^)

>>2227428
You can't just flip the image and call it a reflection; the angle is totally wrong.

>>2227208
depending on the approach sometimes the gradient is first step, then shadows

>>2226007
>the ass is just too huge.

IRELAND
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>>2226839
Cbee you're wonderful please do more

>>2226219
Her plastic surgeon should be fired for not understanding anatomy

WIP, I'm testing shit there
I will probably change the lights on the CG woman, those shadows look totally off
I will also add flying women crotches with spread legs around the ring

>>2227428
Her nose and mouth aren't aligned with her eyes, that look weird

>>2227531
This is a pretty cool concept, I just wish the woman was painted instead of 3D.

Spur of the moment character drawing, some meek looking guy with a derringer.

>>2227428
face construction, dont think features separatedly

>>2227542
Solid stuff. Kinda reminds me of the Phoenix Wright games.

>>2227535
I'll try to work around the lights better, but i just don't like digital painting. Why would you imitate painting with a computer when computers have their own graphic languages: pixels, 3d, or even fractals. Quite hard to find a reason to do digital painting.
It sounds like those illustrators trying to make photo-like (digital again) paintings for me.

>>2227542

keep that line for shadows in every edge you're missing

I think upper arm is worst part of it, too many horizontal lines and moreover paralels, they don''t construct drappery

>>2226995

Shore dew

grantsru tumblr com

Does this look like a kid freshman in high school?
Should I clean up sketches more when showing them to people?
What's the downside of having a bland main character?

Ok, I changed some of the mouths someone pointed was awkward, I hope this is better.

>>2227443

Oh, that's cute!

>>2227000
Congrats. This looks fine, maybe that's why no one gave a critique causes there's nothing to critique.

>>2227566
Looking good, his head looks kinda flat on the full-body drawing though.

>>2226582
When jumping your body goes up but your legs go out. You could try moving the legs.

>>2227571

Hmmm... Thanks! I wonder why?!

>>2227577
I'm a fucking retard so take this with a grain of salt, but it could be that the more cartoony nature and lack of values or other means to convey form on the head, contrasts with the more or less fleshed out forms and values of the body and accompanying clothes?
My diagnosis will likely be wrong and some other anon will reply and give you some much better advice.

>>2227454
Mmmm.... I knew I would have to redraw most the hand reflection but didn't think the rest of the body reflection would be that different from the flipped image. Thanks for the observation


>>2227531
>>2227544
Thank you guys, this is truly embarrassing because I do think about the underneath construction however since I'm doing a stylized piece sometimes I feel compelled to add or exaggerate features for the sake of not making it too realistic, I will try to break that habit.

>>2227611
Its all about the middleline man. I pointed it out last time. Thats your biggest problem.

>>2227428
FUCKING LOL looks like lucie wilde

I'd appreciate some crit on this.

>>2227693
I'm thinking a line to imply a jaw for the head turn.

The nose seems too close to the face though. same with the mouth. They should be more to the right.

Other than that the lines are good and it's pleasing to look at.

>>2226214

>>2227712
Thanks!
I was thinking having a strong shadow in place of a line for the jaw would give it a softer look, I also moved the nose and mouth a bit.

>>2227726
It's better but not quite there. Look at other faces and see how the nose and mouth wrap around the face. When I look at your face the chin is jutting out. Idk if that was your plan though.

>>2227734
This face is a different angle than yours but it's to show the wrapping.

>>2227734
>>2227735
Thanks, I will try reworking it a bit, I think it has to do a lot with the people I look up to having styles with very prominent chins lol.

>>2227738
Oh my god, those fingers

>>2227755
Cool

>>2227738
Please don't look up to these people

>>2227758
but they've got the hands, anon! the hands!!

>>2227755
where do you get your references?

>>2227257
experiment on your own until you find one youre comfortable with

>>2227766
holy shit this literally makes me feel disgusting

>>2227756
Thanks

>>2227773
These are from imagination

>>2227755
your drawings are great, they remind me alot of japanese animators sketches

hi friends. this is mostly stippling with the smallest sai brush not even sure if its viewable

Are there any good tutorials on drawing the 80's style of anime? Specifically eyes and hair, just faces in general?

>>2227887
copy it line for line niggy

>>2227887
>tutorials

You shouldn't need them. Study the style and break it down yourself.

>>2227887
I don't get it, if a tutorial theoretically existed what would you want from it? There's literally thousands of frames of drawings you can look at and study....

>>2227738
>>2227766
ayyy lmao

>>2227975
ayy

>>2227805
>These are from imagination

Then it's REALLY cool

>>2227766
I remember being disgusted at her hands/feet back when I was a disgusting fujoshit in middle school.

Going through Junjou Romantica's current stuff, it's still pretty amateur. That's what happens when you don't Loomis enough, I guess.

>>2227000
It looks really good, I'd say smaller breasts but that's more of a taste issue

>>2227887
kinda

>80s

godspeed also you might want to check out Nai-chan and Satoshi Urushihara

still got bunnies and mechs on the mind. I'm curious to see if I am able to put whats in my head on paper - it's exhausting.
>Top page was a bust
>Bottom was closer

Gonna make the bunny ears into big guns tomorrow

>>2227755
Sketches already look nice, time for some finished work, anon.

>>2227000
It has no ribs cage. At least give it a little to show an hour glass shape. It don't matter if the breast are that big.

>>2227061
can't decide if I should keep working on this or move on. I am not really in the mood to clean up all the itchy lines.

>>2228068
don't clean up, just paint over them in new layer with confidence, it's like tracing, cake, reminder that you DON'T have to clean line art form that to make it finished

my suggestion is to make things flying in the bg darker than the sky (not as dark as your current mecha thing) = ambient perspective

now you have to think about local values, for example, are pants darker than skin? play with layers and make them darker, still, brighter than mecha, do that for mecha too if you're thinking it's metal and some parts painted or with different materials

as you already have shadows you can jump to color or render
and you should make background darker than sky, while keeping that value for that mecha

just finished this sketch

>>2228548
First thoughts: cute but what is she doing?
The pose does not read very well. The shoulders and hips seem so much fuller than the arms, making it looks weird. Her eyes are a little too high as well it seems

>>2228548
You really need to focus on anatomy for now, even if you're aiming for an anime style.
There are too many things wrong with it for me to pinpoint what exactly you'd need to fix.

http://i.imgur.com/9c3C6Ct.jpg

But please keep going, the most important thing is that you keep drawing and learning.

>>2228556
Thanks. I lazied out on the pose, she's just standing there wearing handcuffs, she's a magician's assistant.

>>2228558
yeah man, my proportions are way off. I think i need to start measuring and stuff.

---
here's another one from today

feels like i have some serious sameface problem...

>>2228072
>you DON'T have to clean line art form that to make it finished
Never really crossed my mind - I'll give it a try

>you should make background darker than sky,
Which part is the BG? The purple behind the girl? I put a blue sky and merged it with a blue gray ground at the horizon

>make things flying in the bg darker than the sky
Ok I think i see

Thanks for the tips - I guess I'll digi tonight

>>2228068
The perspective seems a little skewed, I'm guessing it is from that horizon line but... The machinery just doesn't seem right, looks a little wonky.

Some old bloke

>>2228635
I like it, although I think it could benefit a lot from more contrast and depth.

>>2228619
the ground, somehow I typed again background kek

I think that may be one of your better referenced pieces, work it out

Reworked on most of the left pic since I did a shit job the first time.

>>2228749
Not shit but the boobs look weird. Also tbh the whole clothing curving under boobs is tiresome at this point

>>2228635
this >>2228638 hard edge shadow this fucker up

>>2228635
this would look 10x better if you colored it better. The design and linework are great but then the colors and brushwork are ew

>>2228635
cap doesent follow the form

>>2228635

>>2228779
The design and linework are far from being as good as you seems to make it look like. No linewieght variation, several parts lacks volumes like the cane, and the hat doesn't looks it it's on the head to begin with. Teeths could be more detailed as well, they looks too flat.

>>2228786
well the linework definitely ins't the best...but compared to the colors it's fine

>>2228749
Man, looking back, I sure feel like I improved well compared to 2 years ago, that was still way too symbol drawing-ish.

I'm too tired to do anything

and done

Another character from this project... Trying to define a style. Did number 3 body just for fun as I don't want anything too erotic. lol

>>2227714
thoughts on photobashing?
want spider half to be wooden.

>>2228967
Looks more like rusted metal than wood.

>>2228967
I really like the way you textured its leg, although it looks a bit flat

>>2228972
Textures can be funny like that, tried treebark earlier and it looked like stone. (Looked really good too.)

>>2228973
Thank you, hopefully playing with some blending or just painting it can address that.

Eh I tried,my first time drawing a skull
Crit?

>>2228982
pretty bony

>>2228982
Very rough but you seem to have an understanding of the basics, try to do some more in-depth studies to really take notice of your weaknesses.

Also the draw thread would be better suited for your work >>2225854

crit please?

wip

>>2227748
>>2227750
I like these

>>2228967
Sauce on your ref?

>>2229091
Haha, I like these. Your stuff gonna be really good as your draftsmanship improves.

>>2226188
looking pretty fantastic. Just get the background to relate in color.

>>2229089
>mfw that older Lilo looks a ton like me
Don't fuck up, anon! I gotta save this when it's done.

>>2228631
>machinery just doesn't seem right, looks a little wonk
I think the machinery has no perspective. I should have given the guns a view other than profile

>>2228072
>just paint over them in new layer with confidence, it's like tracing, cake
ummm i don't know what I am doing, should I flatten the whole image into a single layer and then paint over? I lightened the lines, but they are still on top - this feels the same as my usual bullshit routine.

can someone help me? i'm mostly looking for digitally painting critque. also how do i add finishing touches.

>>2229216
You should work on your line work and construction before ever touching rendering.

Just my advice.

hail the king

>>2229238
our liege

>>2229183
1. use select tool
2. stay on the layer where you have the color shapes of the figure
3. select that shape (if shadow and light are separated, add both to the selection)
4 go to the line art layer
5. add a mask so you can erase without losing info (the square icon with a darker circle inside it at the bottom of the layers window or menu)
6 paint with black on that mask, you'll erase lines inside the body shape that are annoying, you can leave the ones that are not
example here min 8:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LbQYuV6dng&ab_channel=Swatches
7 you can always redraw some parts of the artlines in other lineart layer and then combine with the older
8 don't turn opacity down for line art, you're doing animu and you're not going for realistic render, keep it with your scratches too, you can clean some, but you don't need to clean all
https ://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11058624_366312166908679_4365889302831999140_n.jpg?oh=250380b26c2ea3f634cf26d9224867d0&oe=5690DB31
you don't have to care about being perfectly clean, watch this guy https://www facebook com/moxie2d/ph

>>2229242
>it wont suck itself

>>2229238
>>2229242
Hah, pretty neat style
The chalice looks a little flat though, and from the momentum of the liquid it looks like it's falling from above, not that it's being knocked over by the king.
The staff also looks like it should be pointing a little towards the viewer, not lay completely flat on the drawing.

>>2229238
>>2229242
slothyslothson, my nig. Good stuff.

Newfag here. Please crit my drawing. I have more if interested

>>2229295
that's some solid critic, thanks

>>2229311
thank you

>>2229220
how do i increase the quality of my linework?

first contact with vilppu, no refs, pose is kinda rigid but it's going kawaii

>>2229363
draw a lot.

>>2229381
I like this, her torso looks a tad too long though, and imo her hair direction breaks the dynamical pose

>>2229363
do the same you did with lines in one separted layer, then turn opacity to 20%, create a new layer and repeat all outlines, do this 5 times till you've catched what you're using as reference

if you would put focus on each line you wouldn't have to repeat it, but you're new, so just keep grinding it, and as the other annon said, don't step on values if your linework is that bad, or at least, if you do, paint over your line art and keep fixing proportions

Bit scruffy but hey ho. Someone crit

>>2229280
Thanks! I have a lot to try out when I get home - the mask makes a lot more sense

Pic related is from last night when I was fucking around...
>2 I was literally painting over the line work, which was beyond my skill level and it started to get blotchy and disgusting
>3 was a little closer, I color picked around the lines and then painted over them with the hard round brush

I'll try out the new stuff tonight

>>2229437
you may try colorpicking a ilustration you like, you won't learn about colour theory if you go that gaudy colors

about my wip, gonna copy the anon with giant lolis kek

>>2229441
>dakara motto motto takaku takaku

>>2229442
what?? are you telling something?

I'd like to fix some mistakes before I finish this. I don't play Lol of legends, but I liked her design.

>>2229449
decoration behind the knees is fucked up, specially on her left leg
with cat hairs on the face you should try to follow the contourn of her cheecks

and I would say to change tails on the left part, make middle one turn down while bottom one turn up, rythm and not out of frame, and you might make a <3 for the keks
that hand bone should be more soft
cook ilustration m8

>>2229421
Use a photo reference.

>>2229504
I like but please don't hide her hands. I now can't tell if it's a weapon shes holding or a quarter moon.

>>2229504
Her right eye is too small. It makes her look derpy.
Also learn how to fabric folds.

>>2229504
like the drawing but im so fucking sick of moe warriors.
there are so many inspirations out there. why people keep doing the same things over and over.

>>2229544
It's a phase that will pass as we continue our journey on the path of getting good.

>>2229547
lets pray that thats the case

>>2229544
> of moe warriors.

Not this guy but it's pretty much the same as saying "I'm sick of manly warriors", that's a bit stupid considering that's a massive part of possible human shaped characters.

>>2229089
i enjoy this
where can i find more of your things

>>2229602
Moe is kinda like the bald space marine, it's got a very specific set of characteristics that people are tired of being used over and over again.
Moe doesn't necessarily refer to femininity

>>2229611
> it's got a very specific set of characteristics

Drawing a feminine realistic face is no different, idealized that's it. I see your point but they're used simply because they're considered as the best characteristics to draw a feminine face.

>>2227542
where do you post your work?

>>2229616
Yeah, they appeal to the masses and I'd understand it if it was made in the context of a business but individuals could be more creative than that, but most people draw the same exact thing, even if there are more possibilities to create unique characters within their styles.

Value block in, want to finish today or tomorrow.

>>2229144
>mfw that older Lilo looks a ton like me
London?

>>2229089
sundryaddams on tumblr

>>2229638
meant for >>2229606

>>2229639
noice m8
you make my penis tingle

>>2229626
There are plenty of ways to be "creative", it's not only about the face, which in that case is like criticizing that some artists would only draw realistic ones.

I'm not sure what you seems to consider "moe" face though. There are plenty of artists that uses lots of popular Anime characteristics while giving a totally different tone to their works.

what have I done?

>>2229638
LOL DID SHE CRAP HER PANTS HOLY SHIT

>>2229645
I'm guessing I was talking more about the moe blob >>2229504 seems to resemble.

>>2229638
shadows don't add, you're mixing the roof cast shadow with character cast shadow kek
clear your mind
& work on that hand, going decent except for your lighnig composition which does not make any sense

>>2229638
Please tell me that is aa painted wall painted in 2 colors
>shadow over shadow
Also. Cmon man. Just give local value to each thing dangit

>>2229655
moeblob is more shit like pic related to me. Besides, the black eyes of >>2229504 gives it a not too generic look to me.

To begin with, the guy should rather focus on improving on other stuffs rather than trying to give it a "unique" look for the face that has more chances to make it looks like shit.

>>2229661
Those are edited screenshots though.
Madoka Magica was the zenith of the moe blob style, following the moe blob trend-setter that was K-ON.

But yeah, look at >>2229504 then look at pic related.

>>2229657
>>2229659
OP here, Wouldn't ambient light make the shadow of the wall around the casted shadow lighter? Maybe the terminator isn't as harsh, but I've definitely seen it.

>>2229676
you're so confused you've hurt yourself

>>2229666
> Those are edited screenshots though

I know. But moeblob is about shinny round eyes to begin with, bonus point when they're constantly blushing like in your example, besides the shape of the face and the simplified noses and mouths. In that case >>2229504 isn't really the best example of "moeblob".

>>2229680
just tried with a lamp, definitely works.

>>2229676

>>2229682
>tiny, pigeon-toed feet
>big hips
>narrow shoulders
>big baby-head
dude, that's totally moeblob
I'm speaking to you as a weeb

don't really know what to do with the feet

>>2229721
looks like your run-of-the-mill calarts bullshit

very unappealing

>>2229721
Kek

He obviously has no use for those so just make his bottom half nothing but rags

Finally settled on a color scheme, thoughts?

>>2229735
are you sure it's possible to bend your finger like this? Because I sure can't. Nice lineart tho.

>>2229735
Chin and Mouth do not make sense relative to one another

>>2229739
You can when you press it against your chin, doesnt do it naturally. Just tried it.

>>2229739
I referenced my own hand as reference for the pose, I'm not double-jointed and my finger could bend even more than that when pressed against my face, but it stops looking graceful past 90 degrees lol
And thanks!

>>2229741
It's an stylistic choice although I've been trying to tone it down.

>>2229745
You purposely misaligned her face for the sake of style? Seems weird seeing as how everything else seems to be in order...

>>2229772
I've seen it done by several artists that have this style and I'm kinda fond of it because it's such an identifier (granted the first time I saw this style I really disliked it.)

>>2229775
I always find it crazy how this kind of artist can put some crazy render for the hairs and stuffs like the guns, then draw a completely shit anatomy with grossly huge lines. No way this body is just about stylization.

>>2229775
I see what you mean. Interesting

Anyone use screentones here? I got my hands on over 40 sheets, and I was wondering if there's any sort of decent resource on using the things effectively

>>2229731
english is not my first language, didn't get a thing.

legs and feet still fucked up but eh

I am indulging more into spraypainting/stencil art and I want to know what others method has been towards stenciling.

I recently done this(sorry it's furry)http://imgur.com/a/UI4UF

as you can see I used a layer of masking tape over a black canvas and I feel there is a better way of doing this.
also...

I picked up these old vinyl posters from a shoe store in a mall and I am using them as a medium. I already painted one vinyl poster black and prepped it with a layer of masking tape to stencil later. This will be my first poster sized work and I am looking at alot of spraypaint artist videos making stars and planets with plates and shit while the canvas is still wet. I never tried it but I will in this poster.

I just picked up some spraypaint today after work and already looking at several references.

Thoughts?

>>2229793
I don't know if this applies to the manga cover I posted but I've seen a lot of... photobashing? Which ends up looking more like a collage, really, but it creates a huge contrast of hyper-realism with a relatively simple drawing of the character like in pic related (Birds, camera, Ferris wheel and sky all seem to be pictures)

You'll also see a lot of long and thin limbs and fingers which are almost always not proportional to a real human body (like in >>2227766 but there aren't that many as skewed as that one)

>>2229735
I wasn't very happy with the face so I re-did it

>>2229793
Assistants, bro.

>>2229843
much better

a quicky anime style, yes still chicken scratching.... :O

>>2229853
you should work on the structure and anatomy of the character before detailing the features.
also use real life as a reference even if you're drawing in an anime style

for now you should focus on realistic anatomy, even if they're just studies they will improve your stylized drawings a LOT

I don't know how to make the figure on the left look like she's standing on tip toe and leaning forward. Any ideas?

>>2229862
Try putting the feet a bit more vertical, and making a strong angle between the feet and the feet's finger

Attempted to study a sketch from one of Atmosphere's sketchbooks. Everything went alright till I got to the right hand tho...

>>2229862
hm, why would she do that? that sounds like a fundamentally inbalanced pose and i don't see how this situation needs that.
what are you trying to do?

but an easy anser would be to use or think about high heels.
or show more hints, like the angle of her uoper body, or her ass or something

>>2228967
decided to call it quits here.
Any thoughts?

>>2229873
Hmm... It's not what I thought it was gonna be from your earlier sketches, and I feel like it's lacking a lot of detail and looking somewhat flat.

>>2229859

Thanks for your input.

By the way which one do you recommend more: Loomis or Bridgeman?

>>2229877
Both, you don't have to choose, there's just so much you can gain from both.
I'd recommend starting out with Loomis though.

>>2229796
manga studio/clip studio comes with them built in and they allow you to just create a selection and auto fill with the tone properly tiling

>>2229862
stronger blue-ish cast shadow on her face and the hair facing downward. lighten up the pink lady's face in comparison as well. also add the cast shadow of the lady's arm over the servant's towel thing?? or emphasize it more, to get a better sense of the spatial relation b/w the two characters.

>>2229686
remind me to redline murtle/myrtle/mertle's arms for you, you're close tho, super close.
also the contrast on their faces are super low compared to ass an tiddies (m*rtles more than leeloo's), not that ass an tiddies shouldn't be highlighted for the type of work you're trying to create, but that also any detailed face that's in frame will be a point of interest whether you want it or not and you should make sure it works to the composition's advantage.
speaking of which, your composition's kinna ?? unless you're gonna be adding some kind of point of interest over on the left, like someone standing on the porch over there or something

>>2229901
the stippling's not great, esp on the horns. it's too sparse to create any real values, but also too uniform to look like grunge spots. I'd add more on the face/horns to create value in the darker areas of the face, like google stippling value scales for an idea of how concentrated your stippling should actually be, and vary it from light to medium dark. also i'd probably go ham and make concentrated, random areas on the clothing to look like dirt/wear&tear, still taking care so it just looks like texture and not values.

>>2229911
I meant more a theory resource, I'm working with the physical product

>>2228960

Ok, finally defined her. Now to the next one. :)

>>2229873
it's not very good, but leave it and move on, dont get attached to it. It's one more drawing under your belt now

>>2229721
better?

>>2229873
>>2229876

I'm sorry but I feel like it got ruined. The glow is really bothering me too.

I don't know what I'm doing, mostly with the eyes and background, I thought leave in it unpainted would be a bad idea like painting with a white bg in digital so I washed it gray

>>2230061
Stop being afraid of touching edges

>>2227620
Thanks for your patience fam

>>2227692
I should not have googled that name in public


As for the traditional piece I don't know what I'm doing, mostly with the eyes and background, I thought leave in it unpainted would be a bad idea like painting with a white bg in digital so I washed it gray

>>2230063
Sorry I wanted to address past remarks, as for your feedback, I guess I just wanted to preserve the underdrawing, last time I did acrylics I was told it did not matter but I felt that losing it made things harder

finished the underpainting

>>2230068
I don't know what it is but her pose has bothered me since you started... Her body looks a bit manly, and it's totally fine if that's what you were going for but it just doesn't seem right... her arm is really thick, her back is sticking out a lot and it looks like she's sucking in her gut.
I did an edit because I didn't know exactly what was bothering me, I hope it helps.

>>2230068
Gotta ref that body. Her neck is too long, her hand is too large, and her arm looks masculine.

>>2230093
>>2230099
Thank you guys, I wasn't aware of how big her arm looked, I thought the back looked fine due to the scapula but now it is obvious it was overstated

>>2230078
I think Mertle's right leg needs more values, that hard edge is a very jarring for a naked upper leg, I like her faces btw

>>2228061
i like your thinking
you feelin it now, mr. krabs?

>>2229862
hi

>>2230131
you got a bloag or somethin, your shit's the tits

>>2230131

seconding this >>2230139

that was a fast thread - good job

new thread, enjoy
>>2230151
>>2230151
>>2230151

>>2228578
you know its a butt, right?

>>2230093
why can't she lean forward? you anti-lean-forward-tard.

>>2230131
did YOU use reference?