/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

hands. i would've finished the page but i got lazy and im sleepy.

hand studies

>>2217754
verrrry nice values and edges

Working on a Medusa/Naga/Lamia concept. Just started.

Still working on it, just finished laying in the base colors the other day.

Hey guys

Tried to get some pen work done. I've since bought some new nibs and I'm figuring out how to use them properly, but any more critique on this one would be greatly appreciated.

>>2217791
Already pretty terrifying. I'm excited to see the finished thing!!
>>2217822
Really good, but be careful about having all the strokes end in the same place. The background looks like it has a bunch of vertical lines.

Rubens study trying to learn this thing called form.

This is an eskimo

>>2217890
gross

>>2216961

Any help with the faces? I didn't use any direct reference

Nearly done with this portrait... typically I start strong with linework(my forte) and then get less and less confident as colors and shading start to happen. Shading is kind of my bane; any advice?

>>2217906
woops, forgot to resize it

I have some problem with digital
first, I can't find a brush setting in Sai that gives me an absolutely defined line. everything just gets some tone shading on its edges apart the binary tool. second, I can't draw straight lines. meaning, the tablet is too sensible and reads the imperfections on its own surface, making any ample movement wobbly if not done fast enough. I tried already to change the sensivity settings but nothing .hope you guys can help me with these.

>>2217945
>straight lines

Tap a point. hold the shift key and then tap another point and your brush will form a straight line.

>soft edges on brushes

Check your advanced settings. Set edge hardness to max, opacity to max and turn down everything else and turn off pressure sensitivity.

>>2217950
its a bit better, but there is no way to remove completely the pixelation except vectors? it ticks me off
>hold the shift key
I can't really use that when I draw a leg or a forearm

>>2217963
forgot pic

>>2217964

Looks like your canvas resolution is too low. Look for the setting and raise that

>drawing a forearm or leg

Hmm, have you tried turning on the stabilizer function?

>>2217909
Still a little too big, aim for max. 1100px in height next time :D

Before approaching color work I suggest playing with greyscale values for a while, draw simple 3D objects, make up your own complex shapes, apply different sources of light to the same picture and play and understand the rules of shadows and how they affect the shapes. The next step would be to draw simple still lifes like pottery or something in grey scale and finally approach humans. To have a smooth transition at the start I would suggest to approach color by painting over your greyscale work on an overlaying layer set to multiply or anything else appropiate.

Starting to paint with color is quite a jump-start since there are tools and possibilites with working digitally that allow you an easy build-up

Only got a bit more done. Pleas tell me what you think.

>>2217906
>>2217909
What the other anon said about tone, and you also need to be decisive about which direction the light comes from, your image suggest both from the left and front depending on what you look at. You can leave some parts in shade, not everything has to be lit up.

thoughts?

>>2217966
>canvas resolution is too low
Yeah, that's probably the issue. yeah I tried the stabilizer but the only thing it does is adding whiskers in the points where I lift the pen from the tablet.

>>2218272
Holy shit.

I wanna call this done but the brick autist in me wont let it be

trying to find color and value

I wanna watch interstellar again

>>2218319
you polish turds almost at a professional level

Really empty and simple but I kinda like it like this

>Finished art school in July
>Been waking up every day of summer at the same hour to excersise, meditate and then draw and paint for the rest of the day
>Reach this week
>Suddenly I don't want to draw or paint anymore, I don't know what to draw, how to do it, no inspiration, motivation, nothing, I don't want to draw at all, and everything I draw looks shitty

What did just happen? I'm scared

>>2218327
a compliment and an insult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8c5wmeOL9o

>>2218354
use must use your new found shit vision to improve
try to paint or draw things that are relaxing should help you perk back up aka autopilot

>>2218354
post your work and get a part time job at least you animal

not mine, but I was wondering what you guys think of this

my gf says he cant draw, but I think he cant.

>>2218370
>my gf says he cant draw, but I think he cant.
this is a very confusing sentence.
Nice work but why are they all lying down watching up ?

>>2218370
>my gf says he cant draw, but I think he cant.

>>2218370
>>2218377
>>2218378
I meant I think he CAN

my bad

and fuck, now I cant unsee that

>>2218370
tell your... whatever they're supposed to be to stop copying the scott pilgrim guy.

>>2218383
it was drawn by the scott pilgrim guy

>>2218370
the artist accomplished what he wanted out of it

looks fine to me

>>2218370
sounds like jelly to me

working on this. the goals are to learn tones and proportions.

This is what I'm working on right now. Trying to simplify my workflow and not take as much time to add details too early.

>>2218472
>Trying to simplify my workflow and not take as much time to add details too early.
You can go further in that sense. Try using a much larger brush (larger than you think you can use for a given area) and lay down flat, simple value shapes. Overlap your brush strokes to achieve smaller shapes if necessary. Also, try to limit the number of values you use - aim for a simple read.

Once you have that working, you can go in and refine your big shapes into slightly smaller shapes, and correct your edges as needed. Try not to destroy the initial shapes you made though. Assuming your initial value statement was solid, you want the thumbnail view of your refined painting to look pretty damn similar to the reduced value base.

I made a quick paintover to try to show what I mean. The image in the middle is a reduced value block-in, though I didn't really address any drawing issues (especially with the body). The image on the right is a few minutes of the initial refinement process. You'd theoretically keep refining, adding new values only where absolutely necessary and leaning towards subtlety as to not destroy your initial shapes.

It helps to mentally group all the lit shapes as one unit, and all the shadow shapes as one unit. That binary divide makes for an easy read.

Can I get some feedback on the perspective/composition? This just a sketch of what the piece will look like when I start

>>2218354
>finished high school in 2002
>too depressed and certain of shit future ahead, stop drawing and start drinking and smoking weed 24/7 while pretending I would be okay being a factory worker
>fast forward seven years later
>wake up and discover you still want to draw
>try to get back into it, fail
>depression again
>RL shit happens at every corner, basically end up being this close to be a hobo
>2015, almost 34, still want to draw for a living
>no hopes whatsoever of starting a career this late
>alternate pitch black despair with moments of "I'm going to make it"
do you want to end like me?
no?
then draw you retard
you're uninspired? then draw you stupid uninspiration
you don't have to think, just fucking draw, or you're going to regret it forever

>>2218535
both anatomy and perspective are way off.
the head and torso are screwed on wrong, that thumb
according to the perspective of the corridor, this guy is probably sawed in half and doesn't have legs

elongate the walls of the corridor downward, or raise the dude

the switches? sconces? look like dildos.

got into a fight

>>2218636
neet

>>2218636
the hands need work. maybe try doing some life drawing? you've done enough of whatever these are.

>>2218657

fuck off chode he can do whatever the hell he wants

>>2218370
oh this is o'malley? scott pilgrim guy?

yeah he can't draw worth a shit.

anything glaringly off i need to fix before i move on to hair etc.? also i eagerly welcome any rendering tips you have, i'm pretty much winging it here.

>>2218752
Don't shade with black. Face looks wide. Mouth is weird especially in the corners. Don't have the outline around the nose.

>>2218753
i didn't shade with black, but i can see where you got the impression - it reads like shit thru the thumbnail. i'll mess around and see if i can do anything about the distance read and the nose. kinda like the mouth, though.

>>2217807
The contrast of the first image makes it seem more appealing than the second.

>>2218761
Well whether you used black in the shadows or not, it feels like you did. That means that the shadows are probably the wrong saturation or temperature and feel "dead" and maybe a bit dark.

>>2218672
the hands need work. maybe try doing some life drawing? you've done enough of whatever these are.

quick wip

>>2217752
can someone draw a picture of a mian on a riding lawnmower, driving down the street shooting a gun while an SAE banner trails behind him??

>>2218672
who triggered this guy's autism cmon now

>>2218521
Great Advice, thank you!

>>2218841
nose looks a lot better without the outline. thanks. still not happy with the shadows reading but i'm keeping them in mind and i'll start messing with them in earnest when i've got the full figure down to satisfaction.

stopping for the night, but this is what i've got so far. not really satisfied with the color scheme on the dress.

feel free to rip it apart, i'd rather catch this shit early on than waste time rendering something fundamentally fucked.

>>2218854
You have the best paint-overs.

>>2218857
>you've done enough of whatever these are.
people like that really tick me off if someone likes drawing/painting something you shouldnt even say that shit

"I'm bored of it, therefor SO ARE THEY"
bullshit and you know it

>>2218636
Dunno why those fags are fighting about, I like it

didn't know what to do, doing ross tran character without refs, where should I focus?

>>2218854

groce. controllere votre saturation si vous plais.

>>2218933
The only immediate mistakes I see are ear too low and missing right shoulder. rest is ok I guess

>>2218933
i like it more than original gj

>>2218896
its not a paint over tho

anything more? two hours so far

>>2217841
good eskimo
>>2218243
I really like this compositionally, but value-wise it's mainly grey. Don't be afraid to go dark, especially down in the machinery where the light won't be hitting.
>>2218244
The proportions are off and the pose is stiff. The colors are nice though; while I doubt this was what you were going for, it would look really cool drawn even flatter.

>>2217791
Worked on this some more.

cheap bg added

>>2218980

First read from the thumbnail makes her look bald, the background is too close to her hair in terms of value and hue.

I dig the lips though

>>2218974
I'd fuse the little stick-out tail bit on the hood to her spine. Looks too much like an odd hat, otherwise.

Also, cobras are iconic and all, but there are some cool as hell lesser known snakes out there. Might want to browse the internets and see if something more novel grabs ya aesthetically.

>>2218933
Nice! Do you have a blog?

>>2218993
facebook more or less, the problem is that I've not made a separate account for art yet :/, so can't share kek

How can I make this better ?

>>2219153

make it look more like this

>>2219155
is that Ruan?

>>2219153
I think you could benefit from using a textured, more complicated brush than the hard round brush.

>>2219153

>>2219158

Raaa raaa raaa Ruan Jiaaa

>>2218980
nima is cool
Her mark is usually more white than that, almost like a white tattoo. It will stand out more

>>2218272
you should really look at the stickey and stick the to beginner thread, this is at the level where this might be bait.

>>2218319
nigga u been like 10 months doing this

thoughts?

>>2219255
>>2219255
/ic/ - Artwork/Critique
User-created artwork is submitted for critique, and visual art is discussed. Do not claim authorship of works you did not create.
Only constructive criticism will be accepted. Rude or offensive comments will result in a ban.
Requests for free work of any sort are forbidden.
Discussion of drawing tablets belongs in /g/.

No, I think I'm in the right to post it here.
Don't see anything on the sticky. That would say other ways....Other then your comment being "rude" which ironically is on the stick.

>>2218319
Damn nigger that's really good.

>>2219251
will fix few things of it later, will take care of that tho
>>2219271
you gotta resize
>>2218974
your color block is boring, don't render it, start using snake references for scales, textures and colors
her chest seems a bit weird, or her left tit is too centered or her back is way too thick, did you used a reference where the woman were wearing a top, didnt you?
make another mechanic sheet about how can she be cock-stabbed
>>2219278
welcome here anon
he's not trying to offend you in anyway, you seem way too beginer, that's why he suggested you to read the sticky (it has gold tier info and links for art education), and to post in the begginer thread, where you'll find feedback for youself and for people with your issues

>>2219278
>Other then your comment being "rude" which ironically is on the stick.

This defensive childish mentality is why you won't get anywhere.

>>2219246
Thanks a lot anon !

>>2218319
use some vertical gradient layers to multiply bg and figures
don't tell me you're only in 1 layer
think about local contrasts, figures are going good, but bg need more of that soft shadows more spread, grass and flag need longer local value range, push contrast with color on grass and flag
that armour edges are awsome, but that face is meh, be carefull with the light bricks over his right shoulder, that should be dark, avoid that kind of unintentional coincidences

>>2218319
Painting every brick won't help. When you have that many repeating shapes it gets very boring to have them all rendered out, and even in this case it doesn't even make sense. It would A) draw a lot mroe attention to them for no real reason (they're not the focal point) and B) would make the image weaker because their perspective is wonky, and C) isn't what bricks on a structure that large and far away would look like anyhow.

I think it would be better handled if you had some different textures within that wall, maybe in some places the bricks are more obvious and in others it is more subtle.

Overall the image is alright but feels a bit heavy/muddy. There's a lot more light in scenes than most people realize, especially in the evening and morning. If you ever spend some time outside and take mental notes you will realize there's a lot of light, both direct and ambient (people usually forget how much fill light there is). Anyways, I brought more of that warm sunlight in and really bumped up the flag behind his head. You have it placed there nice and conveniently but aren't using it! Get some more contrast there--both in value and colour.

I would have liked to make more changes, but my computer is lagging out really bad and I am getting tired of waiting 3 seconds after each brushstroke for it to appear.

>>2219269
re-sized.
But it doesn't look right. The colors looks warped on my screen.

>>2219286
lol
Duh.k

roughly 2 hour drawing. im going to do more figure drawing later tonight so ill post more in a few hours

>>2219546
Strange proportions but otherwise I like it.

>>2219546
Your angles are too sharp homie

>>2219565
that's what i thought. she was very skinny and had a large head. i think she was like 14?

>>2219153
It's very messy and that makes it hard to read.I'd suggest cleaning up the vegetation and working on the separation between objects.There are some small perspective errors that I'd look into.Also work on your elipses or just use the elipse tool.I tried to make it more readable but it can still be much better.Just make sure not to add random crap in random places.Think before you place a brushstroke.I hope this helps.

fixed few things and messed other things, enjoy kek

>>2219699
Careful when you're posting dark skinned people on this board. A lot of /pol/shits are lurking here.

>>2219699
the hair is shaped weird because her head is shaped weird..plus that neck.

Uninspired potrait drill.

critiques or thoughts.

trying some silly proportions

>>2218933
>>2218968
>>2218980
>>2219699
you don't need to a post an update on your shit drawing everytime you change something.

>>2219691
extremely neat how you turned that around.

>>2219744

Too grey.

>>2219752

Hey there Ronnie. How's your webcomic.

Second attempt at dipping into more landscape-type pieces. Stretch my artistic asshole, friends

>>2219821
Jesus shit your works are surreal, I can't describe how I feel

>>2219284
Thanks for catching the chest problem. No reference, just drawing. I've been looking at this for too long.

I'm sure /d would love the extra mechanic sheet.

getting there

>>2219911
highlight the edges of those figures with light

>>2219963

How long have you been at it m80?

>>2217890
never stop anon

>>2219963
Indeed you are, nice.
Not that bad looking either, bud ;)))

Poceni

>>2218636
>>2218924
no one is fighting about it, but the hands ARE terrible

>>2219974

Probably close to 9 hours

>>2220000
quads of truth

>>2220000

I meant how long have you been drawing, dawg. I like it. If that's a self portrait you're a qt but that's off topic.

>>2220004

Since I was a kid. Sort of faded into "actual drawing" by /ic standards a couple years ago.

also thanks, here's the ref

>>2220013
Jesus fucking christ you faggot you're not that bad looking tbh fam

I want to just fucking cuddle with ya

>>2220019
Shit, forgot spoilers don't work in /ic/. Well, at least now you know.

About 60-70% done with this. Feel free to tell me why it's shit.

>>2220026
Switch the position of the legs. When your arm is forward, the leg on the same side should be back.

only good one from tonight

I fucked up the sail perspective.. -___-

Anyway, should I add more detail with ink or you guys think it don't suit the style?

>>2220059
Yo nigga this is FABULOUS. I think it has just the right amount of detail.

Everything is terrible.

>>2220059
I think it's fine from an inking standpoint. I would do either some simple watercolour on it (if the ink isn't water soluble) or some digital flat colour on it.

>>2217789
>verrrry
>verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry
>very
>verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry
please stop that.

>>2217904
yeah, don't try to draw them realistic.

>>2218319
why don't you just photobash bricks?

>>2218379
why is he a gf?

This is one of my best drawings. I drew this one using Prismacolor colored pencils and various woodless graphite pencils (HB and 8B)

>>2218272
it looks DBZ and Clarence had an abortion.

>>2218636
i can see you want to be the next merc_wip guy.

Michigan J. Frog. One of my favorite characters from Bugs Bunny. This is another one of my colored pencil drawings.

>>2220068
its fine your friend will like it anyway.

THAT PERSPECTIVE THOUGH, HOLY SHIT

>>2219699
>enjoy
fuck off, you're not that good.

>>2219963
you are surely getting to be a full-blown narcissist.

>>2220013
id suck your dick straight off and keep it in a jar. faggot.

>>2220061
>>2220073

Thanks guys, really appreciate it... I think I'll stop the details as it is now.

I'm really really rusty with digital and painting right now, it's been almost 10 months I don't paint anything, kinda scared to learn messing with photoshop again. But I'll keep in mind about painting this one... It can't hurt I guess. :)

>>2220094
i posted my self portrait online and everyone said i look like a terrorist :(

>>2220089
Yeah it's pretty bad but whatever. Maybe I should at LEAST fix the knobs on the turntable because those things are JUST. Because I have the instruments arranged in a very haphazard way, tilted at different angles and so on to kind of illustrate to the viewer what they are (without being able to completely do it correctly, lol) I can mostly get away with the other stuff, but those are just...oof.

Good night anons

>>2220085
hitler-tier art

>>2219699
It's nice
the branch right behind the ponytail looks like a bad tangent to me though

This is a sketch of pretty famous still from The Passion of Joan of Arc

I was happy with how this sketch went so I didn't want to fuck it up drawing the crown. Any tips?

>>2220077
why does his exaggerated use of Rs annoy you friend, you should not be worrying about something so simple

>>2219821
best of the thread

>>2219691
Thanks a lot ! Gonna work on this

>>2220258

the amount you are precious about your work is inversely proportional to how quickly you will improve.

>>2218354
Happens to me on the reg, I just sit for a week and draw nothing. Then I get bored or something and it comes back. I wouldn't worry.

>>2220258
Don't be afraid anon. You need to fuck your shit up so you can learn and grow as an artist.

>>2220091
clam bro, tell me how I could improve it to make you enjoy my shit next time, I know its meh tier atm

>>2220091
>post your work
incoming merc everyone.

never again will i use ink tiny tip pens again for life drawing.

>>2219269
more like 70 hours over 3 er 4 months
>>2219292
everytime I use layers I end up merging them
I am infact the worst taco bell burrito
>>2219308
good crit on the bricks ill probably just blur em out a bit more and pop em up in size

also paintovers are gay

>>2220081
photobashing is for the gays
in all seriousness its personal work with no time restraint why if I were to photobash personal work just kill me whits wack yo

>>2220266
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

>>2218327
>>2219269
>>2219283
samefag.

>>2220332
that paintover was not gay. say thanks to the anon you pleb.

>>2220332
when you work in 1 layer it's worse to fix mistakes or cleaning edges, etc, use folders and keep it organized, sketch, bg, figures, effects, ambient...

it doesn't matter, you can still edit on figures only or outside them only, make a new layer, select their outlines or paint over them with opaque color and then select that form, there you go, now you can play with that shape to clean edges, start using basic round brush for that

>>2220338
to paintover as cheat in your picture, he's not talking about that anon critique
read

>>2220341
crit is good I just dont care for paintovers
I gots to do me own visual thinking

>>2220341
No you're completely right im just super lazy even if I separate all the layers I just end up merging them all

I want to get into layer management but my computer cant handle it atm

>>2220342
ahh, i see, sorry.

>>2220327
The face is nice, reads well but the shoulders, like, his right one is weirdly angled when compared to the other one.

hey gang.

how can i improve this? i feel like im in my limit

>>2220362
turn it 10-20% opacity and do it again

Please tear these pieces apart, ic, every critique or nitpick would be super useful!

>>2220136
This looks nice, i only have one minor nitpick - her right hand is too similar to the apron in terms of value (almost identical when you zoom out), maybe it'll work better if you separate them a bit more with shadow on the apron?

>>2218322
Reminds me of Min Yum, great job with colors so far!

>>2220382
And the second piece waiting to be destroyed.

>>2220382
>>2220383

study everything and draw from life intensely for a year.

I really need help with the face... There is something horrobly wrong and I cant figure out what anymore

>>2220382

You're being really sloppy, put more time and effort in making something good, work with bigger shapes so it doesn't look so messy. Also, use lasso tool to define hard edges.

>>2220352
another.

>>2220469
sorry forgot to resize

>>2220470
please find the beginners thread. you would benefit from posting there.

>>2220352
Nice. I really like the colours here. You have some great potential.

Do you have a blog that you'd care to share?

Anything look all fucking retarded yet?

>>2220387
Go back to the drawing stage, make sure all the plains of the face are right. Just make a new layer over top. I think the problem is in the eye and the fact that the farther part is dark and hard to discern.
I'm likin dat outfit tho.
>>2220383
The gestures not bad, except for the fact that its completely unsupported. It would greatly benefit from you changing the back leg. The colors are nice. I'm not really diggin' the breastplate cause its like- is it a breat plate? is it not a breast plate? I dunno man its just life half-boobed.
>>2220319
Owch, thats the damn truth.

>>2220492
thankyou.
http://nakedoats.tumblr.com/

>>2220258
burn it, draw again. you will feel better.
i say this with love.

>>2220523

>>2220564
I'm laughing so hard tears are coming out of my eyes, thank you Anon.

Doodled this a while ago

>>2220387
Maybe the smile line,take it out to create a more feminine look

>>2220567
and by "doodled" you mean "traced.

Adrawing of deadpool

>>2220630
Nigga what chu say

thoughts

>>2220638
>thoughtless fanart

Boring.

>>2220649
Get out of your sameface comfort zone. You render everything the same plastic way with the same features and same angles in every painting. Get some ref if you need a bit of help, but try something different and new and challenging, or else you will stagnate.

haven't got a fucking clue how to even start hard surface stuff

>>2220665
Think a bit more on function--how do the joints work? Where do we see out of it? What is the purpose of this particular mech (military, exploratory, public transport, garbage truck, construction etc)? How do you get in and out of it? Where does the engine sit? Is there an exhaust port? How is it built (are there panels?)? How will it be identified (stickers, numbers, decals, crests)? How many people can fit in it? Does it have weapons? Will it need communication things (satellite dish, antenna etc)? Is anything impractical about the design and how can you fix it? What is it made of? Is it new or rusted and worn down?

Just start asking yourself questions about the machine and then find the answers and figure out how to show it. I just listed some off the top of my head, but you can come up with more I'm sure.

As always, when completely stuck try to find some reference to get an idea of how they are constructed or what elements are often included.

>>2220649
I assume that's supposed to be a female because of the lips.If that's the case you should make note that when drawing females you generally need to soften the features.You generally want to use more subtle changes in values and softer edges in areas such as the lips for example.I'm not saying you have to take the image in the same direction as I did,but hopefully this gives you an idea of what it could look like if these issues were adressed.
I know I ended up changing the character quite a bit but I hope this helps.

>>2220638
You skipped some basic lessons, didn't you?

>>2219821

still trying to get out of my comfort zone

>>2220362
Study up on anatomy, that jawline is pretty darn sloped. And it sort of seems like you're just symbol drawing with the eyes, mouth, etc. Also, it's hard to truly see your values with a pure white canvas; even bucketing it with slight gray will go a long way.

>>2220470
Jesus shit that's terrifying

>>2220567
The fuck are you trying to accomplish? Le cool tumblr cred?

>>2220739
You seem like you like Zedig's stuff, and some other Russian dude whose name I can't remember. I like the way you painted it, it's nice and stylized. The arms seem kinda off, though. Also, work on the hands.

>>2220747
haha people keep drawing that similarity. thanks, will do

>>2220699
Thank you for taking the time to do a paintover and all. I get where you are coming from. And i think your crit about working more with softer edges applies to my work in general. All the sharp edges can be the cause to what anon, >>2220661, considered plastic rendering. It's probably more to it aswell idk. I feel bad that i haven't progressed much in this piece. I see that you have put alot more thought put into your design and ligthing than what i currently have.

>>2220661
I think you are right, i fall into these periods where i focus very narrowly on doing something, faces mostly, and do them without much inspiration. They become kinda like drilling exercises except that Im not learning much. I would appreciate if you could share more of your thoughts on what makes it plasticly rendered and sameface. Thank you for taking the time anon!

I don't think I improved on it but I will leave it like this nevertheless.

>>2220739
I think the pose is a bit akward because it is unbalanced.

>tfw shitskin filipino
Covering it up in hues of blue, fam

>>2220714
wat?
>>2219911
thank you!
>>2220270
are you serious?

>>2220638
you stuck in your childhood manbeard ?

doing a commission.
anything, before i move on?

>>2220891
no, commence

>>2220891
is she supposed to look retarded?
that isn't even an insult, i'm honestly asking. the way-low mouth is making her expression vacant in a way that makes her look mentally handicapped, but i don't know if that's not what you're going for.

>>2220891
as he says >>2220910
change that mouth, I would find more fitting her pressing her lips, draw the mouth line closer to the nose
nose is not cute yet
make the room in darknes with screen as main light source to make her look more nerdy kek

>>2220910
>>2220914
she's sticking her tongue out, but i gotcha.

>>2220382
You're afraid to push values and your colors looked all a bit chalky. So i pushed up the vibrance. Made actual bits where the two light sources couldn't reach. SHADOWS ARE FRIENDS. Seperating the two makes it a tad more dramatic.

>>2220916
that's what i suspected, but i wasn't sure. raise the mouth up and shorten the height of her cranium, then - there's too much space in the philtrum area even if you're going for the kyoani look.

>>2220916
only dogs do it backwards, and miley cyrus

>>2220891
is her neck broken

>>2220383
Again, shadows are you friend not your enemy. Don't be afraid to hide detail

>>2220771
this is pretty sweet i gotta say. part of me wants you to push a slightly more dramatic lighting angle. Realise this is more a stylistic choice than anything

ye

ye.2

ye.3

ye.4

>>2220963
That nipple look out of place

>>2220963
keep up the good work

>>2220963
>>2220964
>>2220966
you shouldn't paint on a white canvas. start with a mid tone grey.

i also recommend trying not to add details so early, you should block out the basic values first and gradually start adding detail as you you're building the drawing.

your david study shows that you have a decent understanding of form and lighting (except in the hair. you need to construct the hair! construct everything), just keep practicing

Hey, I would appreciate it if someone could try to improve this.

help how do refinement and polishing on hair

i messed around with layer styles in the rough stage to get the lighting where i wanted it but now it's merged and i'm not sure how to approach the overall cleanup. use a textured brush over it? do some more blending? attempt to blend with one of those fancy hair-texture brushes? help me /ic/ digital painting confounds me

>>2220986
What shading style are you aiming for. Looks like it could be fun .
Your design perspective etc.. is all on point.

Fucked up a lot of thing on this one. I should have scanned it and tried different light settings before starting laying down tones with the markers, they're very unforgiving. :(
Also the goddess anatomy... Well, shit happens.

>>2221053
nah man it's all good. Planning to touch it up with photoshop? color layer and whatnot?

>>2221004
I'd just continue to paint over it with any brush that has a small amount of texture. I'd stay clear of "hair texture" brushes, as you'll often get too much visual noise with fine strands everywhere. Study how people like Sargent and Leyendecker paint hair, and how most of the detail is implied.

I tried a paintover, mostly for myself to see how I'd approach the hair. Figured I might as well post it. I feel that the colors you used for the hair are too high in saturation (the lights, mids and darks). You also have too much contrast in value, which is more apparent in the grayscale version. I tried toning down both the saturation and the contrast, attempting to get the hair to read as one clear shape in terms of overall value.

I butchered the face in mine, but I'm procrastinating enough so I left it as is. Feel free to disregard that part.

>>2220986
Original anon's better ver

>>2221083
>it's all good
go back to the beginner threads you hack.

>>2221053
The biggest problem in my mind isn't the anatomy. What's bugging me the most is the way that the backpack is being held- it feels like it has no weight and it just sticks out like a sore thumb. With all that + the cat + the stance, it feels weird to not see your character tipping over.

>>2221083

It was the plan, but maybe it's too sloppy for me to give all that attention...

>>2221098
I'm not samefagging, if that's what you're upset about.

>>2221105
Hmmm.. I dunno, people with real backpacks don't stand leaning too forward, you can stand straight unless there is something REALLY heavy inside. I even made him pushing the stripe to give the impression that it has some weight pulling it back.
What I think is off is his balance on the feet, now that you mentioned the backpack problem I notice that the pose shouldn't have one feet resting, he should be grounded properly. Don't you think?

>>2221127
nah, at the end of the day good composition, story telling and lighting is better than perfection. You know how long the average person looks at a picture they really really like.
26 seconds.

>>2220013
Holy shit, you're cute.

>>2221086
thanks fam. taking it under review.

the contrast thing i'd actually noticed, especially with the face so low contrast - the way i'm doing things now is tackling the big parts bit by bit rather than a whole, which ends up with a lot of contrast and color mismatches i've been fixing in the post-painting part of it. if you've got any advice on keeping the whole composition in mind while you polish, i'd love to hear it.

feeling pretty confident with human anatomy recently so hair is my current subject of study. i'd love to get my head around that sort of soft, dreamy look to the hair sargent and leighton etc. have one day.

gl with your whatever you put off.

i need some serious help on perspective

>>2221191

Woah what am I looking at

>>2221157
where did you get that bullshit average from, your ass?

> good composition, story telling and lighting is better than perfection
that image has none of those.
stop giving advice

>>2217791

Aw man I love her.

>>2221206
https://orensanznyc.wordpress.com/tag/the-average-time-people-look-at-a-painting/

>>2220385
Got it, starting with some still lives with fabric.
>>2220388
Thanks, i'll try out the lasso!
>>2220527
I was going for this design, but i guess i should have made the cuirass more prominent.
>>2220934
>>2220943
This looks so much better, thanks a lot! I really am afraid to use super dark shadows, but the way you apply them looks very cool - guess i'll just force myself out of the midrange values comfort zone.

>>2219821
this guy has a talent of putting all you faggots to shame on the daily.

>>2221004
you're lighting is fucked up i think. im pretty sure thats why the hair looks very out of place in regards to her face.

>>2218535
get a reference off google my friend, there is no cheating in it and that is a fairly common pose.

>>2219308
this was a good revision. the bricks in the previous one stole the attentio, by making the flag and face more vibrant and bulling the brinks the focal point is much more obvious. i would honestly render the face and flag and call it done that looks nice.

>>2221289
what do you mean?

WIP

>>2221306
Nice angle on the brushstrokes. How'd you get them to rotate to fit the stroke? Is that a Photoshop thing?

>>2221310
Thanks. However I don't remember using a brush that followed the angle I was painting at. I used an oval brush that was constantly horizontal (you can see it on the hair) and also a soft brush for details (as you can see on the face, which is the part I focused on most)

>>2221307
Thumbnail looks ok, but the "X" on the moon is too sharp compared to the moon itself and it looks as if it is between the viewer and the moon, not a feature on the moon itself>>2221307

>>2221306
I really like it! GJ anon

morrning sketchy

>>2221337
amazing, cool.

>>2221338
thanks
thought it was a little boring though

>>2221339
maybe because os the excessive amount of white, but if you took it off it would disturb the whole feeling of, idk, an post-apocaliptical morning. so i think you found a deadlock.

>>2221344
yeah true, thanks

>>2221344
maybe you could add shine on the lens of the mask

Please give me advice, critique or suggestions on my Sonic painting. Any bit would help

>>2221349
lmao XD so random

no its sonic the hedgehog

Help

early wip, which direction should i proceed in?
top or bottom?

>>2221393
early wip, which direction should i proceed in, top or bottom?

>>2221394

bottom

>>2221371
Still help

>>2221397
do some master studies then start again

>>2221398
This is literally the most helpful advice anyone has ever given ever, congratulations.

>>2221416
this is helpful advice, what do you want me to do, crit every single thing that's wrong? It's like teaching someone how to convert their mud hut into a penhouse, it's pointless. The only thing they can do is go study construction, tear down their mud hut and start again
you won't gain anything from trying to make something out of this because what you need is some fundamental knowledge, and you can achieve this by doing some master studies, taking what you learn and doing another one.
But yeah just reject criticism because you can't take it and obviously judging from your impeccable level of skill you're in a position to think you know better.
Fuck you

>>2221417
>doing some master studies

This isn't the way to learn and it never will be.
Anatomy for artists and the understanding of anatomy doesn't come through rote or repetition but through understanding the underlying shapes and how function and form are intertwined, instead of being either being created by the other.

Let me guess, Hogarth and Loomis are your teachers.

>>2221424
There is more to art than anatomy
Master studies and sketching from life is how I learned and I'm a hell of a lot better than you, but hey what do I know. Keep working at that shit then

Alright already here!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xyory4ZKfc

>>2221157
Thanks... And thats cool to know! hehe :D

>>2221206
Well, you could at least try to give a proper critique. :P

>>2221427
The topic at hand was what is wrong with anon's piece and it is lacking in his understanding of anatomy of the head.

If you desire to defend your choices in teachers and method by mistaking criticism of them for being critisised yourself, do so on your blog, you insecure shit-for-brains.

I drew a bird for not so long ago. Obviously from a picture reference.

>>2221432
>anon's
don't you mean "my"?
There's a fuckton of things wrong with your piece and the only valid criticism is to take it back to fundamentals. Not only is the anatomy fucked but there is zero painting technique. Doing a few master studies where you can observe, lighting, form and structure in one exercise is an effective way to learn. Anatomy is only one of many problems with that. You need to start again from the beginning, if you get this fucking butthurt every time you receive criticism then you will never improve, don't act like it's me who has the problem though

>>2221432
>The topic at hand was what is wrong with anon's piece
his work lacks pretty much everything dude, he needs fundamentals and anatomy is only the start of a big list. when your this much of a beginner you cant have your work crit like that because the only way to fix it is to work on your fundamentals and start fresh

>>2221436
I agree with this anon. Lighting will only make sense when you understand form. It's pretty clear you do not understand form yet, since anyone with even the most rudimentary knowledge of the skull and basic understanding of forms would be able to make a better skull than that.

It's no shame to have difficulty with forms. It's tough. Everybody can benefit from a little more fundamentals every once in a while. No exceptions. Draw some boxes, mate.

gotta start drawing again

>>2221394
top

>>2221306
care to share the ref ?

>>2221417
>>2221424
>>2221427
>>2221432
>>2221436
>>2221438
>tfw I posted that piece and left when I didn't get a decent crit
lol
You can't crit people's works in five words bro.

>>2221462

>>2221289
what do you mean?

>>2219963

all done

>>2221644
Nice job, you qtp2t, you

found on 9gag, omg so true

>>2221670
i like hurting girls

Still a WIP, the cat is just a blob atm and i need to add stars and comets to the background. Plus her midsection looks like pulled taffy.
=/

thoughts

I am sure this comment will be basically background noise, but coming from a drawthread on another board and coming here is fucking... humbling as shit... hopefully I can come back one day and join the big boys... for now, back to the hell pits with me.

>>2221817
yea there are some pretty good people on this board. It's rather intimidating really.
Just keep in mind that most of the assholes tend to be shit themselves and enjoy your stay.

>>2221670
Fuck that being hypercritical is better than head patting shit.

>>2221866
Both is terrible.People like you are always acting like there is no middle ground.

new thread

>>2221908
>>2221908

>>2221835
some of these people live on this thread and that's it. Being the biggest fish in a small pond is all most of them can be.

>>2220741
Uhh,no cool tumblr cred,don't even know da fuck that is,and or how do I accomplish that,also heres a wip

I need help guys...

>>2222462
I guess i'll always draw like a 9th grader

howsa bout this one?

>>2222882

Can someone help me with the body?, i can't join the body together with the arms, also, the body.

Just finished this tonight