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how 2 deal with shame? I feel like a lot of my motivation is simply not there because shame takes its place. I like drawing, I love the feeling it gives me, but I'm my own worst critic. Plus I still live with my parents so the embarassment is very physical and hot when they see me draw. I feel like everything I do while I'm awake needs to be directed towards moving my life forward.

>> No.2211469

There isn't a magical way to get over that feeling, you just need to do it. Try to think rationally about where you're at, and compare it to where you were before.
Don't constantly compare yourself to better art and just kick yourself for not being as good as they are. They got to where they were from years of practice. It's good to have inspirations and motivations, but always keep it in perspective and view your own work in relation to itself, rather than to the art of others.
Better, when you feel like shit, to compare your art to stuff you did a few months or years ago and see what you've improved. If you haven't, maybe consider what you're doing that's stopping you from improving.

>> No.2211470

>>2211464

What are you ashamed of? I bet your parents just like to see you doing something that makes you feel good.If you don't like to be watched, just tell them.

You sound insecure and stressed.
When i feel like that, i practice techniques i suck at, that way i don't expect too much of myself and i feel proud when i succeed, even just a bit.

>> No.2211472

>>2211464
schedule yourself to draw something every day

JUST DO IT

>> No.2211479

Thanks guys. I'm really grateful for the advice.

I just tried drawing something that made me happy for the first time... and all I could draw was a dude taking a shit. What does this mean? That I'm a fucking piece of shit who can't help from drawing the visual equivalent of a shitpost? I CANT EVEN STOP SHITPOSTING WHEN I DRAW? Should I an hero?

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>>2211479

>> No.2211485

>>2211483
Are you implying I'm samefagging?

But no really, it's a legitimate concern of mine. People always fucking throw around the phrase 'draw what makes you happy' and when I let my pen move on its own, dicks and poo and pepe the frog comes out.

Maybe I just need to change my hobbies from browsing memes to reading about art history. Anything classier than what I've been doing.

>> No.2211486

>>2211479

Stop it with the pityparty, for a start. Self hate won't get you anywhere, and nobody likes to hear an artist talk about what a shitty artist they are. Find the line between humility and pity-party and try not to cross it.

>> No.2211488

>>2211486
ah you mean humility as in not thinking of oneself but still holding myself in dignity, and pity party as in relentless self abuse, smearing poo all over the walls? You have a point. I do cross it without knowing it. It's the little comments that throw me off. Do you cope with something similar?

>> No.2211491

>>2211488

I don't usually venture into self hate territory, but it's common among artists to feel self depreciating about their art. I remember I used to piss my friends off by preceding every time I showed them my art with "it's really shitty but..." It might sound like it's being humble but nobody really wants to hear that. Better to say you're still learning.

The way I see it, the big distinction between humility and self hate is a humble man is willing to see his flaws and better himself, a man who hates himself will see nothing but flaws and just figure he's worthless want to give up.

>> No.2211494

>>2211491
I get it. So even though I may feel like drawing only immature shit right now, that will pass. I should not lose heart, but just get the poopoo and pepe drawings out of my system so I can move onto something better. Hmmm!

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>>2211494

>but just get the poopoo and pepe drawings out of my system

... sure.

>> No.2211506

>>2211498
Don't look at me like that, my marsupial acquaintance. I've always been 'that' kid in middle school and high school, who enjoyed doing things for cheap laughs. I guess the state of my drawings right now simply reflect the residue of that time left inside me. Who could've thought?

>> No.2211539

Art is suffering

There is no way out

>> No.2211546

I don't know if this will apply to you at all, but I used to be cripplingly self conscious about my art to the point it prevented me from improving. Something that helped me was just posting shit on 4chan - and not the stuff I was proud of, the stuff I knew was awful, the stuff I wanted to purge from existence and erase any evidence of my having had a hand in it's creation. And I didn't post it to get feedback, I already knew it was shit so fuck what anyone had to say. I posted it purely to just throw it into the public garbage can, let everyone see my shame, and come away from it with nothing but the knowledge that the world didn't end. This isn't an exercise it art, it's an exercise in ego.
Come to realise that no one gives a flying fuck if it's shit or not, no one cares period, it's just one of billions of mediocre images floating around the internet. You matter to every other nobody about as much as any random nobody matters to you, which is to say 'not at all'.

Once you realise that, you can basically do anything you want. Get over protecting your ego and just focus on improving these skills that pretty much anyone could learn if they had enough interest and humility to do so.

>> No.2211570

>>2211546

Basically this. You don't necessarily need to practice it to get the idea - Nobody will remember your mediocre shit. Mediocre art is so ubiquitous that 99% of people will take one look at it and move on. People will remember what they like from you, but not too many will remember what they don't like (at least not until you're popular, at which point half of /ic/ will remember what they don't like and remind you incessantly).

>> No.2211830

Great thread.