/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2211026
bbc's tattooed dick is funny.

>>2211030
Are those veins really THAT flat? FML lol.

Might as well post here as well for help on top of the cartooning thread.

The leg of the organ grinder looks a little weird to me. Can anyone help me figure out what's going on with it or is it just in my imagination?

>>2211041
Ugh, here's the pic in question.

hey, im working on this picture, i've never really done tentacle stuff before. I've always had a problem with getting the volume of things.

That being said, any other all critiques or even a red-line would be appreciated.

>>2211042
>2220x3144

>>2211045
oh boy, now that I posted it, i see a large area of things that need improvement, but thankfully this is still just roughs

>>2211055
Sorry, didn't think size would be an issue. Here's another version of it with the feet at a different angle but with the same floaty problem. Doesn't your browser have a fit to screen?

>>221106
Nobody will open huge ass WIPs, that goes for the entire board. Downscale to 1000px.

The perspective is off. The leg is off position on the box.
The girl is supported by the organ, while the strap implies it's leaning away from her.

Also, her legs lack any form or perspective.
Try drawing the figure without the organ, and then add it back.

>>2211069
Tips for stylizing the right way?

Im 24 and I have never saw a vagina.

>>2211069
By that do you mean that the leg isn't on the center of the box?

And what do you mean by any form of perspective for her legs. I appreciate the help, I just need to know what you mean by it.

Taking care of the strap though.

>>2211089
I know that feel bro.

>>2211079
Learn how to fucking draw instead of worrying about your "stylization".

No amount of "style" is going to save lack of knowledge.

>>2211092
>>2211089
You guys don't like looking down there when you're fucking either? Me too. I almost looked at one before I was about to bang this supermodel, but I turned off the lights fast enough before I stuck my dick in. That was a close one.

>>2211096
Penises too.

My wife still complains at the occasional mess I leave because I turn off the bathroom light before taking a piss.

>>2211045
looks legit like shit. loomis nigga

>>2211096
Normie pls

>>2210797
Been working on this, how did I do?

>>2211079
>Tips for stylizing the right way?
>stylizing the right way?

If you want to be a one trick pony hack of an artist who only knows how to symbol draw, take inspiration from typical weeb shit. The internet eats that up.

Otherwise, learn how real shit works first and then make adjustments how you see fit.

>>2211179
Drawing from life is boring, Average people don't do dynamic poses often, Dynamic poses look weird, and you can use only symbols to animate e.g. most animated series.

So more importantly. I know the neck is messed up, unrefined details, and lack luster coloring. Is there anything else specifically wrong with this. Opinions are welcome but won't be acknowledged without CRITIQUE.

>>2211206
>Drawing from life is boring
>Average people don't do dynamic poses often
>Dynamic poses look weird

4chan is an 18+ board. You're too young to be here.

>that image

Loomis

>>2211206
You should practice mannequins before trying to do a drawing from such difficult foreshortened position.

Or at lest take a picture of yourself from a similar position for a guide.

>>2211212
It's an extreme perspective, but I guess I should push it mroe next time.

This other thing I'm working on. Does the structure look right?

>>2211215
What structure? There is no structure?

>>2211217
Loomis, it says start with shapes. you know guides for drawing. These are shapes

>>2211175
Anyone have any suggestions for me on how I can improve this?

>>2211211

Loomis sucks cocks in hell.

>>2211215
Perspective on the boxes looks odd, so I guess you should practice just drawing boxes alone in various perspectives.

And just draw a lot of fucking mannequins.

>>2211218
>Loomis, it says start with shapes

And you can't even draw shapes correctly, kek. You're trying to run before you even know how to crawl.

>>2211206
I'm going to give you a few steps tips on how to stop being a piece of shit because right now you post like a fag and your shit's all retarded.

1.first things first stop being a namefag

2.Draw from life or at the very least photos, your understanding of anatomy is non-existent.

3.practice perspective and basic forms

4.
L O O M I S
OI
O M
M O
I O
S I M O O L

>>2211175
If you're still on next week for some god forsaken reason, I can draw something for you.
With words,
I'd try to point out that her "top" breast is looking disproportionate to her "bottom". I think the shape you have on the balls has a purpose, but I think you could do it differently to make the shape more appealing. Right now her balls are two masses, and I feel like you if narrow them a bit at their "throat", you could make 'em more like a sack.
Altogether I'd just change her balls--maybe look at some Uno Makoto, since I think he handles 'em well.
The head of the penis seems misshapen, but I'd liken it to like what you have going for the toes, and unfortunately I don't think I'm eloquent enough to explain how I think you could change 'em.

>>2211253
Loomis is is for faggots, everything else is okay

>>2211037
why even give him veins? no one cares about the dick .

>>2211253
Aside from loomis is there an artist/book that teaches spacing/perspective?

>>2211261

I knew something was up with her breasts. Just couldn't see it, now I feel slightly silly for not seeing it. I'll try reworking her balls and eventually stop ignoring her stubby little deformed toes.
Thank you!

modified the anatomy a bit due to fridays input

>>2211305
also just realised that ashes arm is now much to short, gonna fix that tomorrow

>>2211267
I have to. It's not my call. I guess this explains why they are so shitty or something.

>>2211309
Why not make those lines a little less thick and solid? Veins kinda fade back into the cock usually. Unless your client is full on MAKE THE POP OUTTA HIS DICK.

Reading is boring. Re-reading is worse. Anyone who has read loomis knows that most of it is theory and empty rhetoric.

Give me a title and page number if your serious about the loomis thing.

color is off again, the dick is weird, and torso is to long

(could have told me that when I posted the sketch but no one else noticed)

>>2211319
dude epic lmao fam xD

>>2211231
Well it may have something to do with the advice I'm getting. They said use loomis so I will.

>>2211319
being productive is boring, and improve is worse. Just don't listen to people who's trying to help you to improve. and do whatever comes out of your asshole.

Nah, serously talking, the dick/hand part don't fit well, try putting the hand down and get only the knuckels and fingers
the legs are a little bit strange and disconnected, reduce them a little bit
shoulders too little (at least the left one, and the arm) also, the left tit may have some physics, like being squished with the arm
and where are the balls? (not much volume in the crotch)
thats all, I don't know if it helped. I hope it will

>>2211325
Hey man, it's /ic/. There may be some good days, but otherwise just expect shitty vague crits.

>>2211338
There's absolutely nothing wrong with being told needs more Loomis.

>>2211175
>>2211219
not much, but here's something.

mostly agreeing with what >>2211261 said, change the scrotum to be a bit more appealing.

>>2211325
>Well it may have something to do with the advice I'm getting.
It has everything to do with you being an illiterate faggot who doesn't enjoy reading or learning.

>>2211350
I take all the advice given and hopes it helps. The timer advice was really helpful.

But when people say loomis, he is a person that wrote many books and drew a lot. I vaguely think of something that was in the book. Like body proportions, blocking out poses, drawing in 3D but only one thing at a time because being so vague it could be any of those. "More Loomis" is even more vague.

Also it's really insulting when someone make assumption (like not practicing, when practicing isn't an immediate thing) and when I defend myself the insults start and eventually I get ignored completely.

I don't control my emotions I control my actions. When I feel bored there's nothing I can do about that. I can read it anyway. Also reading isn't the only way to learn.

And incorrect sexually orientation isn't an insult it's a lie.

>>2211349
I'll give that a try. I'll draw a better dick.

>>2211337
I'd rather draw a bunch of crappy drawings than not draw at all, sometimes.

I didn't notice the hand, I'll try moving it. Also legs, shoulders, (knees and toes) and the tit.

>>2211361
Thoughts?

>>2211103
sorry. I do use fun with pencil.

>>2211402
see
>>2211253

>>2211305
drow and sylvannas' skin just aren't really sold as well as ashes. Experiment more with shading the blue. Also the way drows head is sticking so far out of her hood is odd. it looks like it's defying gravity with the back staying up where her head clearly isn't

...

>>2211412

I think it looks good, but there isn't much focus on anything. Maybe it's a size thing but my attention isn't drawn to the genitals, nor the faces. I think you put more attention to Sakura's legs than what's good for the picture, as it detracts from everything else considering how much they take from the whole thing.

You hit my fetish spot on, though. Cheers, mate. You have a good taste.

>>2211311
It's exactly as you said. They have to be the kind that pop out.

>>2211412
You used two different perspectives for each character. Unless you wanted to portray a Sakura with huge elephant legs. Then it's spot on.

anybody have any decent refs of women with chubbier thighs squeezing a head between them kinna like how i got here, can't seem to find a decent reference

What do you guys think?

>>2211026
OP likes bbcuckchans stuff, maybe we can break the chain next thread.

>>2211456
Sure, when you contribute decent artwork to the thread.

>>2211456
p sure if i ever managed to get something to a finished state it'd have a decent chance of being used as the OP image but i'm stuck in sketch purgatory, it is what it is

>>2211458
>show me yours and I'll show you mine
>>2211459
Sketch purgatory is a weird state. I usually have an ink pen handy to line, some small, sketches in my sketch book.

>>2211060

here's a picture of real feet. see how the toes have full contact with the floor, along with the first part of the foot.

only about 2/3 parts of the foot should be lifted off the floor.

But she looks good, i like your style.

>>2211474
>>2211045

Aaaand here's the picture. sorry.

>>2211253

What is loomis?

i'm a different newfag with all retarded shit.

>>2211267

i care about the dick!

>>2211454
the face in the left bottom side makes me think "autism"

>>2211482
The whole drawing makes me think "autism"

>>2211456
if a sketch is good, it could easily be used as OP's image. just like in the previous thread.
making up excuses is easier than drawing good art, isn't it?

>>2211532
This is the second thread with bbcuckchans drawing as the thread image. This isnt the first time too. Of all the anons that posted in the last thread, and those who made improvements, it seems OP would prefer bbcuckchan; this also goes for Kyle. This thread seems more like a flexing zone, though, I might be wrong.

>>2211536
of the last thread, only three separate posters had work at- give or take- BBC's level and none of them where past rough/cleanish sketches
>>2208761
>>2210308
>>2210405
>>2210452 (last two are the same artist)

OP tends to pick for polish and usually near the end of the thread, also tends to go for more vanilla/straight leaning work, so avoidance of furries or "the gays" whenever possible, i presume to avoid attracting more flame than usual

as far as flexing, i tend to post even when i think it looks great just because it's faster than waiting till tomorrow when i can look at it again and see it with fresh eyes (tho nobody tends to say shit so i guess it's pointless, hahaha)

>>2211550
meant to add another sentence to the last block of text saying that because i do this, i assume others do too

I haven't really tried drawing porn before, but if enough people like it I may start doing this for money.

Another one.

>>2211555
>>2211556
the structure and form's there but feels stiff, if you clean it up well enough tho it'd probably do very well

based on the thumbnail vs. the actual full size i'd still say it's more than i expected but less than i'd hope. try to avoid circle nipples, also your dicks look really unappealing.

tl;dr: work on gesture studies to breathe some life back into your work as well as work on polish, attention to detail goes a long way in this field

>>2211555
>>2211556
the structure and form's there but feels stiff, if you clean it up well enough tho it'd probably do very well

based on the thumbnail vs. the actual full size i'd still say it's more than i expected but less than i'd hope. try to avoid circle nipples, also your dicks look really unappealing.

tl;dr: work on gesture studies to breathe some life back into your work as well as work on polish, attention to detail goes a long way in this field

>>2211536
why are you so offended by these comics lol?

>>2211555
>>2211556
even though this is pretty much shit tier, I'm sure there's a lot of people without taste that will be willing to pay for your "art". good luck.

>>2211536
OP simply chose the pic that was more appealing to him imo. while I agree with you that it might be better if a single artist didn't monpolize all the threads OP pictures, there is no way to tell that the OP is always the same person or that they knew those were both bbc's illustrations.
why are you so obsessed with bbc anyway?

>>2211563
Yeah i'm just trying it out. i'm no stranger to life drawing and stuff. i just don't normally make the genitals my "focus".

>>2211569
what are examples of "shit tier"?

>>2211585
>what are examples of "shit tier"?
basically every single oc pic in this thread including op's pick (bbc can do much better than that).

>>2211575
The same happend with Kyle too, I guess I've been here too long. I'm obsessed with the idea bbcuckchan might be cucking us. I want to see if s/he can do realistic drawings

>>2211026
>>2211030
>>2211037
Hey Just thought I'd show you how to do dick veins right. It's Less lines that make them look big and meaty. With a few dark emphasis points. Check it out.

>>2211590
Then what does this place consider "good"?

>>2211555
I like what you are doing with this pic and pushing perspective. Would love to see you push the shading some more.

>>2211556
Do you have any completed work.
This looks like the planning stages to a pretty good pic.

>>2211600
I do but I'd rather not associate my professional stuff with this stuff.

As compensation, have some sketches.

>>2211604
many thanks. What was the plan?
Patreon. Commisions. Just getting your fetishes down on paper. Appreciating those asses.

>>2211591
I am not interested in doing realism. I am way too slow for that, plus I love stylization, comics and cartoons.
>>2211592
Well, thanks for this example, but I think this might be too much shading if you take in account I use very little in these comics. I have to take into consideration there's still coloring to be done afterwards. If anything, I think I might be using too much "constriction" lines (as some anons already pointed out in the past).
Anyway, I will try to play around with this approach to avoid tattooed dicks in the future. Thanks!

>>2211620
meant to write "construction".

>>2211454
this is so retarded on so many levels I won't even bother.
back to your fundamentals

>>2211604
Porn is all about appeal and getting the audience excited. Your approach seems a bit too concept artish to me (too much focus on presenting the character, than on making the scene/pose/char sexy or lewd). Imo the best way to make your porn or erotic illustrations appealing is:
- good stylization,
- clean, powerful and confident line-work,
- extreme perspective povs
- putting stories behind your art.

From a technical standpoint your anatomy is pretty good even though you are making the limbs and torsos too long imo (maybe it's just a matter of style, so this might be just a personal opinion, but still take it into consideration, since porn audiences tend to prefer stylized yet realistic proportions). Saying that, you have more trouble with perspective and keeping it consistent throughout an entire character. A lot of the time it seems like you are using multiple horizon lines. Try studying this aspect of your work more.
Good start so far imo. Keep it up.

>>2211536
OP here. I chose this because from the previous thread, imo, this was the better looking sketch or in progress picture out of most of them. has nothing to do with the artist.

>>2211412
>...and then she farts!

>>2211645
can someone explain this? Back in 2004 some guy on a art forum i lurked made the same fucking joke on a sexy porn pic. " LOL I WOULDNT KICK HER OUT OF THE BED FOR FARTING".
Is this a fart fetishist thing?

>>2211654
its just a joke.

Any thoughts?

>>2211671
She seems rather short, its like she's a halfling-medusa. Your expressions are pretty decent, though I can't tell if sometimes you're tits or off or if I'm having trouble seeing the proper perspective due to sketchiness.

>>2211671
fucked silly facial expressions are always delightful

>>2211550
>"the gays"
My short-term goal is to draw gay porn so awesome that you have no choice but to use it as op image.

>>2211683
Sometimes I forget that people aren't just Bi and fap to whatever. Then I remember that both are these massive bitchwads that can never expand their confort zones lest they see too much vagina or cawk.

Really, being entirely gay or straight makes you a faggot considering how whiney they get.

>>2211556
>>2211604

kind of reminds me of Dmitry a bit, nice stuff.

>>2211626
>since porn audiences tend to prefer stylized yet realistic proportions

This is a straight lie. There's not much realistic about weeb shit, and that's what most of the porn audience flaunts over.

>>2211674
Thanks; I was trying to go for that kind of proportion, though it might be messing with the figure.
>>2211681
Gotta love 'em.

>>2211478

A guy who basically can teach you all the fundamentals of drawing to get you started as a pro/freelance.

He's all over the sticky.

>>2211671
The snakes feel very...sharp, for snakes.

>>2211758
I guess I should have written porn audience with a developed taste or something.

Is anyone here an artist with taste?

>>2211813
Manic please leave and then loomis and or kill yourself.

>>2211620
Your art is the exact opposite of what I'm into but I still enjoy looking at it and you have a wonderful attitude.

>>2211825
Know any books for animation art?

>>2211832
Not that anon but are you a massive weeb?

>>2211855
Not that anon but why is he a massive weeb?

This one used a reference is it better?

>>2211847
Mike Mattesi: Force Dynamic Life Drawing for Animators

>>2211879
You are really inexperienced (bluntly put, you suck). You should start form the fundamentals of how to draw simple shapes (spheres, cubes and cylinders) placed into perspective. You are in no position to be able to draw human figures. You have the skill level of a 10-12 year old.

>>2211879
You to accept that your current level of skill is 0, and that you need to actually begin the long arduous process of getting gud.

>>2211879
>is it better?

You're still trash. Doing some studies and actually learn how to draw or stop wasting everyone's time with your trash.

>>2211879
be strong brother, years await thee.

>>2211904
>>2211896
>>2211890
Stop being jerks. It makes you sound like idiots and I can't tell if you're asshole or just stupid.

Drawing shapes is an exercise not a skill. Like doing push ups verses practicing punches for boxing.

>>2211879
Draw Miku.

>>2211915

>>2211915
>wanting a hugbox

If you can't handle honesty, why are you here? Stop being a faggot.

>>2211915
Yeah. You do exercises to develop a skill, which you don't have (yet - and i'm sure you'll never have it if you keep this attitude).
Sorry for busting your bubble mate, but you really really really suck.

Also, I'm starting to think you are a troll, since no one can be this obtuse.

>>2211855
no I'm gay

>>2211847
>>2211813
>>2211879
>>2211915

>>2211950
Anybody can punch but punching the right way is different. "No skill" sounds like an insult with no meaning, bad skill maybe, even doing it wrong would be acceptable.

Say "you suck" also sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. Even if it's true.

>>2211970
you suck
kill yourself
end of story

>>2211983
Not all art is illustration. You do understand that right. You don't have to be good at drawing to animate or make comics. Maybe I just won't learn how to draw.

>>2211999
Lose the name dude.

>>2212001
Sure

>>2211999
why dude, why are you here? why do you refuse to learn? honestly, tell me, Im not trying to troll you man.
what are you hoping to accomplish here?

>>2211999
Ok, I see. You really are a troll.

Guys, just ignore him. Sooner or later he'll stop posting.

>>2212030
>>2212015
Because you are immature. Not everyone you specifically. You joke about me, humiliate me, and force me to do things that won't help.

I've done three things here thanks to people like you. Read a book, drew shapes, and gave up.

>>2212034
>and gave up
thank God, finally.

>>2212034
>Read a book, drew shapes, and gave up.
>gave up

Thoughts on the animation?

>>2212046
Making a Rumble Fighter scroll?

>>2212046
Very stiff, bad anatomy.

>>2212073
What makes the MOTION look stiff? So I won't do it again.

Maybe you could redline the anatomy for me buddy.

>>2212058
That reference is older and cheaper than a prostitute I know

>>2212046
>thoughts on the animation

This isn't the animation general. That animation isn't even porn related.

>I gave up because the people on the internet were mean to me
Nigga you wouldn't have made it anyway if that's all it took.
Why would you namefag without any talent? Actually why would you namefag ever?
LIERALLY EVERYONE tells you you need to go back a few steps and actually fucking learn fundamentals. Guess what, maybe they're right.
Fuck, dude. 10/10 troll.

>>2211476
Thanks, I emphasized the heel more in the new version.

>>2212079
Bad poses for the frames are what.
Don't you take that fucking tone with me, I don't HAVE to help you, I'm helping you because I feel like it.

Look at the very last frame, at the character's feet. In what world are human feet angled that way?

Manic
>>2209769

And don't come back till you're mildly competent

>>2212082
There's a animation thread. I gave up being serious so meh.

>>2212084
I gave up on you. And illustration is for people without creativity.

You're the troll. And stop saying troll before I start making bucket jokes.

>>2212143
mods please do something here, I've seen you deleting shit threads all day, can you do something about someone shitting up a thread they clearly don't belong in?

>>2212137
Treat people how you want to be treated.

I was aiming for depth but that failed. Probably be better of using stick figures.

It is a graphic character made of shapes. Not a human being. That is a triangle not a foot.

>>2212148
>asks for crit
>gets defensive about it when people point out what's shit

G E T O U T
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>>2212150
>cyberbullying is a crime
>commits crime
>is factually incorrect
>should learn how to treat people
>ends up alone

Let's all act like humans beings instead of pig beast.

I'm seriously working on a porn animation. How about I ask for critique without INSULTS, LOOMIS, questioning my intent, or BULLYING

This is my first attempt at NSFW art. I can't help but get the feeling that I'm still doing it wrong.

>>2212163
This has to be bait or not actually manic anymore
>cyberbullying

No one has ever said that word seriously right?

If somehow I'm NOT be taken on a one way trip down the ruse train it's basically this.

What kind of critique would you expect if you wrote a song that was just you strumming all 6 strings of the guitar for 2 minutes straight? People would just say "Learn to play the fucking guitar, learn music theory, fuck off you living joke"

This is what you're doing, but with art. You're presenting such a complete display of ineptitude that all people can say is "learn the basics, you don't know anything" but because you continue to defend your completely inept work in the biggest case of meyers-briggs I've seen in months people can only repeat "learn the basics" in a more angry and frustrated tone.

Essentially, you DO NEED to fuck off, read Loomis, and don't come back till you understand the very basics.

>>2212163
Why wont a mod ban you for this blatant shitposting

>>2212163
are you that Va asshole thats shitting up my drawthreads
youre shitting up /ic/ now?

>>2212163

>>2212172
Mikufag? Youre drawing traps now?
Did /pol/ did this to you?

>>2212163
>cyberbullying

>>2212179
That's clearly a strap on anon.

>>2212163
>I'm asking for critique except actual critique which hurts my feelings.

lmfao kill yourself kid.

>>2212163
Your problem is that, you are having the same attitude towards people that are bullying you and toward those who aren't.
Fucking trolls.

>>2212168
youre alive. thats wrong.
read the fucking sticky

>>2211671
reaaallly good, but sketches are so light
show us what you can do with inks nwn
(or i guess photatoshop and the levels sliders)

>>2212034
>actually giving up
Grow a little tougher skin, m8. Nobody's forcing you to do anything. It's all helpful suggestions. Practice without knowledge can only get you so far. You have to learn the 3rd dimension a little more. I'm sure I'm in no position to help you, but at least I'm trying, and to some extent, so is everyone else here.

>>2212163
this shit post is delicious i hope its not manic and when he comes back he gets totally hounded by the board.

>>2211626
My background is in concept art, you got me there. I am having fun with all this perspective stuff, I'll try to push it more.

>>2211609
Not sure. Just gauging interest. Considering the implications of doing this on my actual career.

>>2212229
if you feel like still pursuing after the concept art make a separate account for the naughty things i remember many people who tend to make it and then end u deleting all of their porn galery in an attempt to hide their real self~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI6ZN-CAaKQ, normies tend to over react. just saying.

>>2212191
I did read the sticky. What am I doing wrong, exactly?

hey would love some critique on this piece I'm working on. It's still in the rough stages but im having some trouble with the posing and anatomy

>>2212239
>>2212168
You don't have a consistent light source. To fix that pick one place for the light and shadows will be on the opposite side.

Simplify the scene. Does the robot really need to be there?

>>2211447
anybody, please?
i'd just stick a sport ball between my legs and see what it looks like but my thighs aren't meaty enough :c

>>2212137
>>2212137
>Don't you take that fucking tone with me

Whatever DAD

>>2212291
This good

>>2212285
Thanks Manic. I'll definitely keep that in mind next time. Also, the addition of "Omochao" was really just for laughs.

Where are these namefags coming from?

>>2212314
Hell.

>>2212314
>>2212322
Shut and draw some porn, bitches

>>2211175
>>2211349
>>2211261

Fixed the balls and I think I've got the upper breast adjusted properly.

Going to try to tackle the toes next, but if you see anything else that could help improve this it would be appreciated!

How are the poses?
Are the details getting in the way or is it just too sketchy to tell?

>>2212409
Even I don't chicken scratch to that extent, apply yourself.

>>2212396
almost no color variation of skin makes her look like she's made of silicone

>>2212396
The anus looks a little bit weird, like it's just a dot.

Remember how loosely the penis is attached to the pelvic region, I think it should be angled downward a little bit more.

The breasts look good, but the abdomen shows no signs of twisting, despite that clearly being what is going on.

>>2212409
Please remove the name.

It's too messy, I can't tell what's a detail and what's not.

>>2212277
do the KIM JUNG GI METHOD. Imagine they are in a 3 dimensional box and everything is relative to the box.
It worked for me

>>2212414
I refuse to be anonymous :D

So this has more detail but is it clear what's going on?

>>2212423
This isn't a joke, drop the name or fuck off.

>>2212425
Whats wrong with having a name? I legit don't see a problem here.

>>2212433
You are one of 57 people posting in this thread right now, you're not a special snowflake.

>>2212423
>refuses anonymity
>posts his complete garbage outside of beginer thread
>dosen't read the sticky

It can't last for more than a few days r-right? It's just some 14 year old who "loves to draw and play LoL and minecraft with his friends" who's shitty parents bought him a tablet that he's going to get bored of in a few days right? Or the mods will do something? Anything? This cancer must not survive.

>>2212443
Yes he is a special snowflake. He may very well be our new Emily.

>>2212448
NO

>>2212443
I have a name. I'm an animator and an individual.
I am a special snowflake. You are too. What's your name?

>>2212446
Are you an idiot? Can't you tell I read the sticky? Did you read the sticky? You can obviously read?

I'm making fun of you because it sounds like your making fun of me. If you weren't smart enough to figure it out. The sticky isn't useful to everyone.

Still needs a lot of work, but am I heading in the right direction? I'd appreciate hearing some of your opinions.

>>2212449
Wait I got mixed up it was Evie or something pic related

>>2212451
The pose is a bit stiff. Try warming up with a few gesture drawings then coming back to it.

>>2212450
No, you're some shithead posting low-quality work on 4chan. You don't matter to anyone here, so drop the name.

>>2212423
It's not clear what's going on at all. Like everyone says, you really need to study up on fundamentals. Even your line quality needs work.

You're at that point right now where there's just so much you need to work on that it's of no use to you or us to be giving you critique. The best critique we can give you is to study your foundations. We can't tell you to improve the pose because your line quality is crap, and we can't tell you to improve your line quality because your shapes aren't defined, and we can't tell you to define your shapes because you refuse to listen to us when we say that practicing your foundational skills is the best thing you can do right now.

So practice your gestures, practice your cylinders, practice your perspective, and come back when you can at least present something that doesn't look like an 8-year old's fantasy drawing.

>>2212456
Linework got it?

>>2212464
Dude please leave you.
Go to deviant art or tumblr, it's a much more accepting community.
/ic/ isn't for you.

>>2212464
If "linework" was the only thing you got out of that post, you need to just fuck off.

>>2212466
head is lopsided

>>2212465
So either way your still gonna be a little bitch, got it

>>2212467
Of course that is all I got out of it. Read the sticky if you don't believe me. More importantly I'm not drawing realistic anatomy, duh.

This is pure lineart. JUST THE POSE. It is BAD or GOOD

>>2212473
It's bad because the underlying proportions are unappealing and poorly stylized and show a lack of understanding of the actual human body.

>>2212473
People are giving you crits, but you refuse to listen to them, why?

>>2212473
Kid, no one here is going to tell you what you want to hear.

If you're not willing to attempt to learn realism, how are you going to "stylize" something? You need to know the rules before you break them. Otherwise you're going to keep hearing the same thing from everyone.

Pose is bad. Flat and uninteresting. Proportions are all out of wack. It also looks like you only took five minutes on this. Put some effort into it your drawing and maybe, MAYBE we'll put some effort into helping you.

>>2212473
Just out of curiosity, how old are you?

Its not bad but I cant tell what is going on in the picture >>2212478 #

That was sarcastic jsyk

>>2212478
Wisdom is more important than knowledge. If I study everything at the same time two things will happen. I'll progress slowly and I won't be able to do what I want to.

That's a lose-lose for me. which means lots of shit posting.

I'm focusing on poses. which means I can animate and later when I practice anatomy I will have mastered posing.

PS dumbshits it's a storyboard so it's going to be redrawn anyway. Just tell me about the poses.

>> 2212492

If you really wanna practice poses use stick figures, so it will look right and people wont be confused, and practicing poses with wrong anatomy will just waste your time. :) u cn do it

>>2212492
>I'm focusing on poses. which means I can animate and later when I practice anatomy I will have mastered posing
You obviously didn't read the survival kit

>>2212492

Yoh can't aquire wisdom without knowledge.

>>2212501
Here's a little quote from the book, bitch, "animators don't like to spend their evenings and spare time life drawing" that's word for word bitch

>>2212473
You're probably somewhere between 10-16, desperately looking for some sort of identity to cling to because you're so young you haven't had time or a reason to become interesting, and have decided "artist will be my identity". You refuse to accept the fact you haven't got the first clue on how to draw because you're entire identity is currently resting on the fact that you're, in your own words, "an animator and an individual" despite the fact you are neither of these, things you're just some stupid kid effectively identical every single other one of your class mates, who wants to be something, anything at all to make him something other than some random cunt, but has too much of an ego to learn anything, and wants to be interesting without become interesting. Right now you're just wasting everyone's fucking time with your stupid masturbatory bullshit.

Either be content to just play league all day with your friends and fuck off, or realize that become skilled at ANYTHING takes both effort and humility both of which you're failing to show.

>>2212506

Im sorry ya'll I was just a fag and I thought maybe I could be something you know? I was born a crap and Ive been trying so hard to prove mysels all mah life. Bruh. I LIKE DICKS.

>>2212505
You're missing the point. If you read a little further you would find the line "But the fact remains that there is no replacement for the hard work of solid life drawing"

Don't quote shit you don't understand

>>2212506
Do you want to come to my house and watch me draw figures, you can pull up a chair while I do gestures. I'm taking the advice but I'm not going to stop what I'm doing just because "I'm not good enough" I hate the way family guy looks but guess how many people watch it anyway.

I do a ton of stuff I don't like, kinda like I'm out of my comfort zone. I just don't like people treating me like a liar when I say i'm practicing. Whelp how do I make it show up my work buddy, how.

Line art doesn't show off the 3D shapes I sketched, how do I do that?

I never said I'm good at drawing, but you don't have to repeat it.

>>2212505
So you somehow want to get better at drawing poses but doesn't want to do any life drawing...

>>2212509
THIS ISN'T ME GUYS
STOP USING MY NAME
I DON'T LIKE DICKS FUCK YOU

>>2212451
I have to say, I love the creature. Though everything you've got going on the creature seems to be missing/off a bit on the lady.

The creature has obvious mass even where you haven't detailed yet because of shape and the posture.

The lady is a bit too long in the body, I'd take the top part down or bring the hips up a bit. There's also positioning issue with her hips. Since the leg on the left is lifted up, all her weight should shift to the leg on the right. And I'd also move the right foot back and angle it more so it looks like it's supporting her. Typically, this shifts the angle on the hips from horizontal to the side barring the weight being slightly higher and the angle twisting a little closer to side view. Also since it looks like the eye level seems to be closer to her breasts, maybe shoulders, (judging by the monster) the cheek peeking out between her legs shouldn't really be visible.

I think that's about all that I see at the moment, good luck!

>>2212505
"Once they become animators - animators don't like to spend their evenings and spare time life drawing is because it's not a collaborative operation."

"There is one is one payoff and its substantial - the gradual and fundamental improvement of all one's work."

Go to the beginner thread and study your fundamentals. Dive into the book thread to get some good books. Hit the Question thread to get some questions answered.

>>2212509
Wow using my name in vain. You must really wanna be me.

>>2212511
So maybe you understand that you don't have to like what you're doing. I hate line art but I still do it.

>>2212520
This is yourself talking to you. You like dicks so much that you've split into two and now Im here. I LIKE DICKS.

>people are still responding to that retard

Why.

>>2212520
Just stop.
You're not getting anything here, you're clearly just looking to have your ego stroked by some easily impressed assholes like your friends in the 8th grade, but the extra long 3 day weekend was too much for you to be fucking ignored, so, being one of the retards who browses /b/ on their phones at school, showing their friends "the funniest SHIT LOL!!!" you decided to venture a little out of your comfort zone to a whole other part of 4chan. Get out.

>>2212518
Thank you! I really appreciate your suggestions. I probably wouldn't have even considered a few of them haha. I should be able to give my creature a less uncomfortable looking lady now.

That burn

>>2212526
Now can you tell what the fuck POSE is

>>2212531
1. fuck you
2. rate my anatomy

>>2212410
>>2212414
Can you please stop replying to this autistic troll.

>>2212534
I think we've already told you the pose is shit.

>>2212534
I fixed it

>>2212542
better than all of manics art, has humorous value.

>>2212536 Im sorry but even your stick figures suck, but thats okay, look up poses and practice them, you can use the ones that have appropriate shapes for a certain body type, in that way you can practice pose and at the same ime get used to proper anatomy! Practice is 50% useless if you arent learning something new or improving at least a lil bit. Trust me. Goodluck!

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, STOP FUCKING REPLYING TO THAT LITTLE RETARD!

>>2212547
Anon we're having fun though. It's not Evie tier, but it's fun.

>>2212547

Whateva I do what I want

>>2212548
So I'm fun. That is stroking my ego even if it is off topic.

>>2212542
it's lacking form read the sticky, jk

>>2212538
anatomy and poses are different knucklehead

>>2212543
say my name again

It fun coz Im dumb gosh. I LIKE DICKS.

I also like to put little pellets of shit in my coffee.

I LIKE DICKS.

>>2212559
People also make fun of barack obama. You are comparing me to the greatest man in the US.

>not even mad :D
Notice how I used a line to write line

>>2212561
Happy?

>>2212561
I think this is the first time I see someone's art getting worse through time.
But the main problem here is not that you are bad and have no skills. The problem is you are so stupid you couldn't take advantage even of the simplest of advice lel.

Shit tier skills? Check
Bad attitude? Check
Obtuse? Check
Dumb fuck? Check

How the hell are we supposed to help such a lowlife? You are basically a worm with limbs and an internet connection.

>>2212567
Two things I took from that.

1 you admire me so much you really wanna be me
2 You thought my art was good at one point

So you personally draw something. Show mm, don't tell me. If you suck at talking maybe you can draw better.

PS stop saying I suck it's been said. Either make a better joke or draw something yourself. Non-artist talking about art is creepy and hypocritical

>>2212569
nope
I thought your art was bad from the beginning. Now I simply can't believe it can be even worse haha.

Keep posting. brainless worm.

>>2212571
plz don't encourage him.

I like dicks. My goal in life is to some day animate a whole bag of dicks.

>>2212572
A little encouragement artwise wouldn't hurt.

What is appeal and how do I do it? Don't say sticky unless you're an artist.

>>2212577
sticky

this thread is so kill, tbh fam smh

>people responding to the retarded trying to assert superiorty by showing just how smarter and better they are than the retarded
>just ingorning him 2 posts in would have prevented everything

No John, you are the shitposters.

>>2212594
are you an artist

>>2212606
are you calling me superior, that's not true, but you're really stroking that ego

>>2212577
This is actually starting to look a little better lel

>>2212619
thank you

compliments are not critiques

Just started drawing porn, and I've been observing some of the more popular artists. I've got one question, though.

What's with the sudden appeal in anal and futa?

>>2212656
it's not sudden and it's everywhere

>>2212417
never heard of this method, I shall look it up man. Thanks

>>2212656
is this a troll

does pin-ups count?
Just made this.

>>2212473
are you the guy who posted the colorful furries? You might have improved a bit, but still need to practice more. Copy five real life references and three of your favorite artists pieces, then come back.

If you want feedback on this, please post your sfw reference drawings in the beginner thread.

>>2212229
Why are you talking like a salarian.

>>2212396
Looks better, but I think you still need to push her junk, asshole and vagoo further down, like the redline shows.

>>2212726
>copy five real life references and three of your favorit artists
This looks like a really fun way to practice

>>2212417
>KIM JUNG GI METHOD
anon pls

>>2212577
you have a severe case of under dunning kruger. you don't realize your own lack of skill.
stop trying to draw difficult shit and go back to the basics.
and you can't animate with "poses" alone. you can also forget about doing dynamic or interesting poses when you can't even get the basic human body right.

good artists know the human body and its proportions BY HEART.

>>2212739
You better be serious. It's either that or the sticky again. I'm not saying you should do it all this afternoon, just that you should try it before posting here again.

>>2212753
I'm not that guy, I'm the one who drew the last image.

>>2212726
No I don't draw furries. Thanks for the exercises. I'll give it a try.

>>2212750
First I just have to applaud how great of an insult that is. Let me explain exactly why you're off.

I know I'm bad. I want to get better and I'm working on that.

I have artist eyes, I can see what other artist are doing right and wrong. Again not the best and working on that.

I have a superiority complex but I'm also a pessimist and realist. I only gloat over trivial facts. Like the fact I can do a high kick. Super proud of that, bet you can't do it.


>>2212739
Let's do it together. Don't go too fast or I won't be able to take it all.

>>2212765
Jus' gonna help ya a bit, here
>>http://www.4chan.org/faq#trip

>>2212765
Get a teacher to learn drawing.

>>2212768
Am I doing it?

>>2212768
You are a god among men. Can't believe that worked. Holy shit.

>>2212765
>Let's do it together. Don't go too fast or I won't be able to take it all.

Saved for future use in my porn comic.

>>2212781
teehee

>Storyboard looks like crap
>Refine?
Long gif is long

Any of you recognize this artist, and know where I can find more by him/her? I'm sorry for posting here, but didn't want to upset any prudefags outside this thread.


On a side note,
>>2212515
>>2212765
Lets cut this guy some slack. He might actually be trying and intending to practice and improve.

This board is for -constructive- criticism, and posts intending to fundamentally insult another anon are against the global rules. I'm starting to feel that most of the resent "criticism" given here have been leaning more towards the latter.

Sure, tough love and all that, but if we want to avoid immature people cancering up this site, maybe we should start be setting a good example. No need to use insults or swearwords. A plain ignore indicates that the art presented is not interesting enough, but constructive, civilized criticism will always be welcome. If the artist throws a fit and refuses to take it, simply state in a mature tone that you have given him you opinion, or again, simply ignore.

>>2212791
That's Ban. Use the multi search function next time, that's what it's there for.

>>2212791
This guy is obviously a troll. If someone gives him good advice it doesn't matter to him one tiny bit. He won't take it into consideration and keep posting his stuff repeating his mantra "is this pose gud hurr durr?"

I think the best solution is to ignore him.

>>2212791
This guy is obviously a troll. If someone gives him good advice it doesn't matter to him one tiny bit. He won't take it into consideration and keep posting his stuff repeating his mantra "is this pose gud hurr durr?"

I think the best solution is to ignore him.

>>2212801
>ignore him
>not mock him until he goes away
pls

>>2212765
>I have artist eyes, I can see what other artist are doing right and wrong.
no you don't. at least you can't judge your own art objectively.
>superiority complex
why the heck would you have a superiority complex? this just again shows that you're a case of dunning kruger.
you probably even think this thread is out to get you or something. but the truth is much simpler than that. you're just much much worse than you think you are.

eat some humble pie and go back to the basics.
at least until you can make ONE good drawing that isn't a vague "pose" scribble. you'll have to flesh out those "poses" eventually you know? and i'm saying that you are not good enough to do it right now.

>>2212810
-> >>2212803

>>2212797
Thank you! Multi search, do you mean the chrome app? I wasn't quite able to figure it out, or what it does, but if it's good I'll give it another try!

>>2212803
He might very well be, and agree that nothing good comes from giving him lot of negative attention. If he is truly a troll, we all know he loves to see how upset he's made us, and if he's for real, I don't feel that he deserves to be treated like that, nor do I believe that it's the best way to help him improve.

Any how, I'm sorry for babbling and will stop now.

So I've gone to sleep and back and this guy is still here?

>>2211042
I love this style.

The thighs seem too close together, try moving her right thigh (our left) a little farther away.

>>2212820
Only because you retards keep encouraging him.

You can't fix stupid. Ignore him or have your thread derailed.

>>2212771
>>2212789
great, now it's tripfagging

>>2212750
>>>2212417
>>KIM JUNG GI METHOD
>anon pls

No? picture poster here, whats wrong with the KJG method, (not that I've heard of it, im looking it up right now)

if you have any other suggestions, I'd be glad to hear it

>>2211454

>>2212851

It's a great methods for very experienced artists. You're on /ic/. Pretty clear why people may dislike it.

>>2213163
Hahahahahahaha.

>>2212791
Thank you, you're nice

>>2212803
Maybe I was practicing posing. I even did a little anatomy to make it look better and it was over looked.

>>2212804
Stop using my name it's confusing

>>2212810
I can't judge my own art objectively, which its why I need critique from others on the artwork itself before on my skills.

I really don't think I'm good enough to finish a drawing. So I don't. Are you saying I am good enough and I should do it. Are you encouraging me? Or are you ignoring what's in front of you because you don't understand it.

Should I post my studies and gestures. Is that what you want, proof that's I'm following your advice since you don't believe me.

please people, don't answer to his provocations. just ignore this troll.

>>2213275
You know /ic/ is just going to do it anyway they can't resist delicious bait.

While I'm doing warmups here's a sketch

since yall need it, im gonna dump some reference images

good sketch or bad sketch

I'm not good at drawing guys

try redrawing these body types

>>2213343
How grotesque.

>>2213343
Is this bait

>>2213338
This is a porn thread.

>>2213357
I hope

testin g

>>2213343
>No Hight-Test
I am disappoint...

>>2213422
>implying "Pudgey" isn't high-test
also new thread plz? This one has over 300 posts and less than 1/3 of them are actual porn pics.

>>2213422
>female
>high test

the fuck is with you people? where do you go to school? shouldn't you be in there right now?

more importantly
>buff

you idiot

not that it matters all the examples there are ludicrous

can anyone tell me how these super clean lines were made?

>>2213509
most probably with a wacom stylus

also, request pic.

>>2213509
stabilizer such as those found in painttool sai and manga/clip studio. also lazy nezumi if you want to use other programs such as photato shop or... whatever really

also working very large, makes it much easier to clean up lines (especially thin ones), just remember to shrink down to appropriate size for web (tho keep the original in case you need/want to print)

>>2213695
I don't use stabilizers and can easily get this kind of lines. It's really just a matter of practice.

>>2213698
they asked how those lines were made, and i know for a fact that wolfy-nail uses painttool sai with stabilizers on

some people don't need em, some people do, i say it's worth checking out to see how you like it, nothing but a tool anyways

>>2213709
Oh, I see. My bad.
I don't like stabilizers because they produce a bit of lag which I hate. Plus I really feel like I'm cheating with those things.

>>2213719
>cheating

No rules, just tools. But I get where you're coming from. I don't use them either.

>>2213509
Most likely doing a lot of line art passes and refining the lines, and when zooming in to get very exact lines at high resolution.

>>2212615
here have my art. Drew it in two minutes.