/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2209769
How do i colour things?

>>2209769
>Back to birds, because everybody likes birds since they are easy to draw and people dont like to go out of their comfort zone.

kek

Hello /ic/
How can i make this look better. Pls be gentle ;_;

>>2209774
you pick a color and then color your thing.
what exactly are you struggling with?

>>2209783
either with confident linework or a good color palette.

>>2209783
>Nui
Why

>>2209792
B-because she is cute

>>2209783
Ramen hair

>>2209806
kek'd

>>2209787
What went wrong?

>>2209808
you posting on /b/

>>2209813
Apart from that, of course.

>>2209814
you not practicing and treasuring shitty pictures like this one, if you are serious about improving, dont ever go to /b/s drawthreads ever again

>>2209808
your lightsource is not defined. right now it seems like you got 2 lightsources.

>>2209818
Thanks for the help man!

>>2209769
that isn't a very good bird picture, its a flat side view.

>what is originality you pleb.

heres another bird I had for people to draw as an alternate to the kingfisher.

Pretty dumb questions, Drawing On The Right Side Of The Brain says not to listen to music with lyrics when doing the upside down drawing excercises, does it really have that much of an effect?

>>2209822
But its harder to completely fuck up a side view. And since this is a beginner thread, itd be nice if pepole didnt feel like shit about themselves for once.

>>2209830
I was doing a few of those last night while listening to lyrical music. My head really started to hurt after a while but I don't know if the music had anything to do with it.

>>2209830
I was listening to 2Pac and Kendrick Lamar for like half of it and that's pretty lyrical.

Not much of my playlist is jazz but it was nice while I was really into the drawing.

The lyrical stuff didn't break my concentration, but I'd say go for more non-lyrical stuff if you wanna be safe.

>>2209830
trash pseudo-science shit book this instant and proceed to learn real stuff: perspective, gesture, linework, composition.

>>2209769
This is a very important thread.

>>2209851
>>2209849
>>2209846
Ahh alright, seems like a personal preference. I just did another upside down drawing from the book. I keep making arms and shit too big, am i symbol drawing them?

>>2209858
Shit, I was posting from my phone. Didn't think it would fuck up and rotate the image.

>>2209858
DO NOT read right side of the brain. you only need exercises. you only need to do them twice or thrice if you like. after that forget about it and start learning _real_ stuff.

>>2209867
Where can I find out where to learn? Is it in the sticky?

>>2209869

Some of it. When I was starting out not too long ago, I found going through the question thread was great. People were asking, and answering, questions I wouldn't have thought of, but helped me immensely.

>>2209869
Go watch Proko's and Sycra's videos, then proceed to actually read the books by Loomis and Vilppu, and the perspective one that's in the sticky.
Keep drawing from life often.

This shit just gets better and better. its still ass but see my improvement just gets me excited. this was my attempt at drawing an egg beater. shit is difficult.

Testing my (obviously horrible) grasp of form.

I know I fucked up her cheeks, and definitely ruined the shape of the jaw. Nose look fucked too- ugh, it literally all looks terrible to me, but I can't stop.

Sorry for angst. Can't help but just vent and get this out so I can get back to the grind.

>>2210001

Right now what you're trying to do is just to replicate the contours. But if you get even slightly off on them, the 3d shape itself gets lost.

try breaking down her face into one of the models that reduces faces to it's basic planes. Loomis and Asaro have methods of breaking it down to check out.

Once you overlay her picture with them, then try copying that reduced form, and building back up her face from there.

>>2210014

That actually isn't far off from where I am in Loomis now. I hope this is decent at least though. Ugh. I'm going to put my keyboard through a window.

>>2210014

I tried to turn the head a little, I'll keep chugging on with the book now until I start learning how to break down faces like you said.

Finished up homework on Hampton's drawing class of week 2 involving construction. Still trying to develop my gesture by doing 60+ 30 second gestures before starting my real work, but... I dunno. Construction seems basic, but I still need to put more into it. Maybe adding 5 or so construction practices to my daily warmup will help. I'd like some crits, but I don't expect anyone to go through the entire thing and comment on each one. I thought #8 and #16 were my best, so feedback on those would be appreciated.

For anyone else who wants to see the videos for the class, they're here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmvvULkxsc81Az2i_0wOIVVMkRJnPoA7i

1/3

>>2210019

2/3

>>2210020

3/3

arms, i get
legs, i get

heads and faces, i don't get

every time i draw a face, it looks fucked when it's on the head

even when i try constructing the head with circles and lining the areas where eyes should go and making chins and shit

still looks terrible

must be all the detail, it really seems like faces are what sets a lot of people with mediocre anatomy apart, like, a fucked up face is way more noticeable than a leg that isn't in the right spot

everything else was relatively easy to grasp because i just knew i could copy and examine and see how things worked, legs and arms are like weird rectangles and 3d shapes and shit

but faces, it seems like all the facial features have to be in a perfect spot on the head or it looks fucked. i end up erasing and redrawing my heads to fit the faces i do

why

>>2210107
Then sit down and draw 5 heads and faces a day. Watch youtube tuts, read Loomis, study masters etc. I believe in you anon!

>>2209769
Was going to post an entirely new thread for this, but I saw this and thought I'd post it in here instead:

So I just got some soft pastels and oil pastels because I thought they'd be interesting to use. Smudging and mixing is fun, but are there any tips anyone could give me for someone just getting into them?

>>2210107
Learn hamptons method. I used to have terrible difficulties with faces too until I learned it.

>>2210125
Where do I go about learning this "hamptons method"? Google search doesn't seem to be getting me anything.

>>2210169
http://www.amazon.com/Figure-Drawing-Invention-Michael-Hampton/dp/0615272819

>>2210169
meaning steal this somewhere >>2210173

god damn it i'm still on the fox...i mean bird

RIP

>>2210173
oh man just the cover and the crazy diagrams are intimidating the shit out of me but i'll go for it

thanks!

how draw shit irl without leaving the comfort of my bed

>>2210245
look out of window
draw at restaurant
draw your room
draw your fat tummy
draw your pillows and toys on your bed
draw all the time

>>2210254
no "draw your tiny dick"
you disapoint me anon

Trying to get back into the swing of things. I've been cowering from practice for a while so I did something a bit silly to break the ice.

>>2209769
went back to pink because yes

Still an obvious WIP but I'm not really sure how to fix this. It looks a bit weird to me but I can't identify what it is.

>>2209769
>fuck foxes
Well said.

>>2210322
Might be having the shoulders at an angle but the face is completely in profile.

>>2210322
Legs are much too small. Maybe working on gesture will help

>>2210326
>>2210332
Thanks!

I need help

Thoughts?

>>2210386
The image you're working from looks horizontally squished:
https://philippefaraut.com/images/pics/torso-f2.jpg

>>2210386
The image is kind of stretched out so it's hard but there's not enough shading in the v shape under the stomach. Also the stomach sticks out too much compared to the v. Erase the stomach line and do more shading instead. Also the nipple isn't shaded enough and it looks weird.

>>2209769
lmfao Loomis

>>2210392
I-it was a different time, anon.

>>2210390
Yeah the photo of the drawing I made had >10000 pixels so I tried cropping them evenly and failed
>>2210391
I see them now that you mention it, thanks

>>2210392
>>2210395
It's accurate though. At least for west africans (american blacks are mostly from west africa just tbh fam). Eastern Africans like Somalians sometimes look like they have more caucasoid features like tall foreheads and thinner noses.

>>2210395
>>2210399

I know, just thought it was a little funny. Kinda like when your grandfather calls Asian people "oriental"(lol).

>>2210392
based loomis

>>2210400
I always thought "Oriental" was a beautiful word, why is it perceived as offensive? When I was a kid I sort of assumed it was the equivalent of calling Europeans "Caucasian"

>>2210404
Oriental literally means "eastern", it's basically synonymous with Asian for the most part so one being offensive and the other not is pretty funny. Pretty sure liberals just made it offensive so they can control the overton window. Just like how we have to call black people something different every couple of decades.

>>2210404
It's not offensive like chink or ching chong nip nong or anything, but it recalls a time in history when we used to put foreign people in zoos to look at and western europe was being hard weeaboo in the creepy way (like those okcupid soliloquies about pure and docile asian women or that one socially maladapted white kid in your class who didn't hide his power level and was convinced that everything would be better when he went to be a manga artist in japan!!!)

So basically bringing it up reminds people of europe's embarrassing middle-school weeaboo phase and that makes it cringey as opposed to like, a slur.

That said, the Orientialist movement (which had more to do with the middle east than the far east, as opposed to the more far-east focused chotchke industry) in painting is hands down my favorite, so thanks for that, Orientals.

>>2210307
That's not pink, it's magenta.

>>2210458
>orientalist painters
>oriental

smh

I'm trying to draw hairs similar to the artist who did this, sorta pointy and a bit darkened at the tips. I think I can't really draw the thin lines of the tips. Is there a way you'res supposed to do it?

It's 3 in the morning and I'm drawing this shit. What the fuck has my life come to?

>>2210471

What?
Orientalists weren't oriental. They were mostly westerners with a fetish for the east.

aight, here's an attempt

>>2210485

Can't color or draw explosions but the idea seemed funny edition.

>>2210404

I think some people take offense because "the orient" and such has some connotations of eurocentricism and general ignorant assumptions about the east.
Basically people are big babies looking for things to get offended about, the usual.

Experimenting with gradient maps. Really cool and fast way to make me look like I know how to color!!

>>2210485
Haha, these are great.

Can anybody recommend me a toned (brown) sketchbook?

>tfw people post in beginner thread only to eliminate any chances of getting insulted by guiding them to the beginner thread

>>2210531
saw this in /agdg/

>>2210531
I chuckled.

>>2210543
It actually looks nice in the thumbnail.

>>2210569

Well what would you qualify as not fitting for a beginner thread?

>>2210386

The lines for the stomach under the belly button are way too defined. Besides that and the stretches image as some have mentioned, I think you did pretty well.

>>2210392
negroid is a viable word for people of the negroid race, just like when whites are called caucasians and asians mongoloid

Would anybody be able to point me to a good rundown for a complete beginner to painting in photoshop?
Note I'm familiar to digital painting in general, I've used manga studio for a few months and I'm competent with that, but every time I try to figure out photoshop (I downloaded CC but as far as I can tell it's basically CS6 for all intents and purposes?) it feels completely fucking impenetrable. Specifically the brushes, I can't find a single brush that doesn't look and feel like garbage.

As an example of the sort of brushstroke I'm trying to find and can't figure out how to replicate, this is the sort of stuff I usually work with in Manga Studio.

>>2210659

Naturally I forgot the image.

>>2210659
fucking question thread. what is it.

>>2210392
>loomis

>>2210559
anybody? ;_;

>>2210716
fuck sketchbooks, they are overpriced, get a roll of packing paper instead, besides, if you want it for practice, there is no point wasting sketchbooks with shitty looking exercises

also, if you are going for toned paper (which you are) be sure to get some kind of white pen for highlights to get that Peter Hans look down. its quite easy to do and it makes the sketches pop out nicely - see pic related
(little effort for great results)

>>2210659
Learn to make your own brushes, it's not that hard.

What type of store would sell realistic stuffed animals or basic 3D shapes? I've been wanting to buy a cube, sphere, etc for me to draw, but I could never find a store that sold these things. Ever store sells all types of other items, but nothing like basic shapes.

>>2210726
>there is no point wasting sketchbooks with shitty looking exercises
Lol that's what sketchbooks are for, though

But I do agree that they are super expensive. Although Strathmore does make a nice Toned Tan Sketchbook at a decent price.

>>2210675
>>2210731

Thanks, I can always count on /ic/ to lend a helping hand.

>>2210736
sketchbooks are for showing off when you are somewhat gud and already know what you are doing.
there is no absulutely no reason your shitty sketches and line/ellipse exercises should be kept in a fancy book

>>2210733

Can you really not find any objects around your house that are fucking cubes or spheres? Like, you know, a ball, or a box?

>>2210744

Sketchbooks are for fucking sketching in, stop being a retard. Something having a cover and fucking bindings doesn't make it some fancy luxury item, it makes it convenient and transportable.

>>2210733
>basic 3D Shapes

Just google templates and print them out yourself. Hell you could also just use a ruler and a compass and make your own on paper as well.

>>2210745
Trying to purchase them to fit them all within size. I can find a box, a ball, cylinder, but they are all so very different in size.

>>2210749
Just wanting to draw something in front of me.

>>2210726
yeah im doing peter hans workshop, thanks thats a good idea

>>2210748
yes it does, and it will only hurt in the long run you because youll be too worried about not fucking up your sketchbook with one shitty sketch, if the others are somewhat not terrible so youll end up wanting to have nice presentable sketchbook
instead what you should be doing is drawing ton of stuff while burning through some cheapass paper

>>2210559
>>2210716
I asked this a while ago bcos peter han.

solution was
Cachet Earthbound Recycled Sketchbook
if not strathmore

>>2210733
>whats a pingpong ball
>whats a rubiks cube

>>2210753
>youll be too worried about not fucking up your sketchbook with one shitty sketch,

Not that anon but I fuck up my sketchbooks on a regular basis, and I also try hard not to on a regular basis. They're cheap and convenient to carry around to university.

Stop assuming people will get some toxic perfectionist attitude just because they've decided to keep track of their sketches in a book.

>>2210752
just make sure its not the recycled kind, they tend to be little too rough so you dont get the grindy feel while drawing (althogh it could be just my preference maybe), espetially when you use pens smaller then 0.5

hey what do you guys think of the rendering on this untimed figure study how can I improve?

>>2210753

Or you can stop worrying about what other people think of your fucking sketchbook. If you're so obsessed with having a presentable sketchbook to flaunt to everyone then you can just keep two sketchbooks, they're not fucking gold plated. I got a 100 page one with good sized pages for 10 dollars. Sure I could get paper cheaper but who the hell cares? It's ten dollars, you can spend that much on lunch.

>>2210773
get social network account. only put pictures you like on it. when people say "Anon, can I see your sketchbook. hand them your phone and get back to drawing.

>>2210770
study forms of the face, stomach+obliques, pelvic area in general, and forms of the features of the face.

as for the rendering, try doing the above study in pen. Before you make each mark, think of exactly the mark you'd like to make and do a few 'ghost' strokes above it. One of the big problems I see in your work is that you've repeatedly made incorrect marks, erased, and reworked or smudged them.

>>2210777
you've hit the nail on the head with the repeated corrections/ slowing down to be more sure of my marks is something I can applying now. Also, you hit the nail on the head with the study forms recommendation too. I definitely struggle with seeing the 3d still. Thank you for this. Very useful!. 10/10 will implement.

How do I become more creative?

Every time I sit down to try and draw I get pissed and annoyed because I can't think of things to draw. Most of the time when I do think of something I want to draw I lose sight of my original design and end up drawing some garbage.

>>2210799
draw from life. that will give you a larger visual library.

>>2210801
Tfw I've tried this

here is my take!
>inb4 no feedback

>>2210810
Darker darks, anon.

does anyone have links to video courses like >>2210019
they seem pretty nice because they give you that satisfying feel of progression.

>>2210753

I agree with what this anon is saying. The more you view as your sketches and practice and disposable the better. I drew on post-it notes for months to reinforce the idea that my art was disposable and that if I could draw something once, I could draw it again. I still use plain printer paper for practice and sketchbook paper or mixed media paper when I want to use prismacolor pencils.

But these are just muh 'pinions. Let a person do whatever the fuck they want.

>>2210810
bird looks flat as fuck

I have less than a month drawing. I'm pretty much a noob. I went through "Keys of Drawing" and then "Fun with a pencil". More or less I understand about construction. I tried to do this drawing with pen. I used construction for the face and gesture for the body. For the body I actually didn't checked the proportions. At this crappy level which exercises are ok to do. I'm doing 4 pages of gesture every day and drawing organic (and inorganic) forms.

>>2211000
Do you want us to criticize the drawing or something?

>>2210950
how can i fix that?

>>2211000
not too bad, anon
not very good either, but not too bad.

araki?

>>2211076
did you draw in the contour lines for fun, or are you not aware of what they are? shade along with the body. you are coloring in what you think you see.

>>2211085
sorry if this sounds ignorant, but i have no idea what you mean

>>2211071
if possible, but bear in mind that I have only drawed for short time, so I still need to learn a lot of theory. Most important, I want to know what other exercises I can do to improve other than the ones I said.
>>2211078
araki?? what's that?

>>2211097
read Keys to Drawing.
if you dont know what contours are, you got a lot to learn.

>>2209867
what

i've been told to actually read it AND do the exercises

i feel like i'd better understand if i learned WHY the fuck i was drawing shit upside down and how it would help me when drawing things right-side up, instead of just doing it just because

>>2211104
i do have lot to learn, but i know what contours are, the thing is i dont see how im not shading along the body, could you mabybe do a quick paintover on top of my imagep lease? (also note that the line over the wind and under the belly arent countours, but are supposed to go across the form instead)

>tfw /ic/ just recommends a shitload of books to read and do exercises from
>tfw my phone is too small for me to read PDFs
>tfw i don't have the money to order physical books
>tfw if i read them on the computer i get distracted

how do i do this

>>2210485
>>2210531
Lol. Thanks for this, bruh. It's exactly what I needed this morning.

Someone make a movie about this or something

>>2211111
reading books is an excuse for lazy cunts that dont want to practice. they read books to feel like they are doing something instead of wasting time

>>2211107

Doing the exercises alone is enough to teach you why you're doing them. The upside down drawing makes you understand how to draw accurately by judging things like angles, proportionality, negative space and shape, etc. The writing in the book is mostly just scientifically-inaccurate babble about how the brain functions.

You could always just work through Keys to Drawing instead though, which is actually about drawing, and not just a bunch of pseudoscience with the odd exercise here and there.

>>2211111
>tfw if i read them on the computer i get distracted
Learn some self control?

Thought I'd try here.

Something feels off with relation between the girl's legs and the organ grinder's leg.

Can someone help me out? I've been wracking my brains for a while now and I know there's something there but I can't put my finger on it. Redline, advice, anything is fine. I just want to move on to the rest of this drawing already.

>>2211164
the proportions of the legs are borked/10
Waist should be at roughly half way

>>2211164
the fetishes run deep with this one

anyway, porn thread is few pages to the right, this is the beginners thread

First time drawing self portrait. Quite proud of this one.

>>2211236
>Edwards

>>2211236
c'mon man dont waste photo space..other people have REAL work they want to share.

>>2211000
wow! that's so cool! you're so awesome! i can't believe the effort you're putting into this! you must be VERY serious aren't you?! i'm so jealous of you! i can barely do 1 hour a day but you? you can do 4 PAGES of figure drawings! :O

>>2210399
I just find it funny that there is one picture of a black guy and an asian guy and then he goes on to show like 8 other pictures of how white people can look on the same page.

>>2211249
shut hthe fuckm yop man

>>2211164

Her upper body looks giant compared to her lower body. The giant tits probably don't help but even the shoulders and stuff.

Christ, this planar head/muscle form thing is a pain in the ass. I think I just have to work out a 360 degree turn around tomorrow with some references.

ugh doing a study like this feels impossible, I just give up, the colors are so complicated and theres a lot of details. I have no idea what colors to choose

>>2211460
i'd advice you to go into value studies for now and forget about color
beginners tend to give too much emphasis on colors. while values make or break a picture, you could use any colors as long the values are correct, it will look okay.

>>2211471
How do you study value exactly? Do you just greyscale an image and try to copy what you see?

>>2211473

That's one way to do it, and perhaps a good way to start.
It doesn't hurt to try and convert something to value without greyscaling and copying it, though, you'll need to get an eye for it eventually if you want to paint in color, because you'll always have to keep value in mind.

That said, sure, to begin with greyscaling your reference is fine. It'll still give you an idea.

>>2211460
the values are ok but the drawing is bad, you need to spend more time

>>2211460

It's fine for a lay-in, honestly. Stuff is mostly in the right place and of approximately the right color. The rest from there is just rendering.

>>2211249

Stop being a fucking sperg.

Here is a skull I drew, trying to focus on the shading rather than the ultra fine detail. I think it looks washed out but I had trouble getting smooth contrast once I started using darker shades.

>>2211559
>5086x7004

What the fuck.

>>2211571
yeah not sure what happened there - sized it down after I scanned it but it's still huge despite the filesize

Where can I go to learn about 4 point and 5 point perspective

>>2211559
resized that and contrast for you so people can actually see it.

Just watched the proko video in the loomis method. Need to find a way to draw better circles. Anyone know what determines how wide the two side planes are supposed to be? The ones I did look overly wide to me.

Should I, an utter beginner, feel ashamed for using a ballpoint pen for my drawing exercises?
For reference, I'm such a complete beginner that I can't even do the "Draw van goh upside down" exercise properly. It always comes out warped by the time I get to the head. I'm trying to reset the bad drawing habits I've acquired over the years and start fresh, so I'm working on building up techniques from the ground up.

>reading book about keys to drawing
>one of the first things it mentions is that you have to look at what you're drawing more than your own paper
>come to an exercise where you have to draw an apple from memory then actually get one IRL to then draw and compare
>finish
>realise I spent 99% of the time not looking at the apple

>>2211668
Do some blind contour exercises.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjJhZ4DYh50

This takes some self-discipline, obviously.

>>2211668
Awareness is part of the battle. I have trouble doing blind contour exercises myself so I look at my subject, remember as much as I can then put strokes down on the paper. Rinse and repeat.

>>2211668
What book?

>>2211249
kek. the hell?

>>2211678
>reading book about keys to drawing
>keys to drawing

>>2211684
>>reading book about keys to drawing
That implies it's something else other than keys to drawing. If it was 'keys to drawing', he should say
>reading keys to drawing

Maybe a writer like me just isn't cut out for this whole 'drawing' thing... Enough off topic, carry on.

>>2211689

I'm aware of this. But that book is highly recommended in the sticky as well. Guess who didn't read the sticky?

>>2211244

Not poster, but technically if hes doing drawing on the right side of the brain, one of the first exercises is to do a really bad self portrait, then do one better when you have done the book.

Been trying to do some character designs and came up with this as a practice but it just feels wrong, any advice?

>>2211691
Yeah, but I wasn't sure because of how he wrote it, which is why I asked what book it was in the first place. That's what I said the first time in >>2211689

>>2211694
Strange ass floating tits, that fucking face is the stuff of nightmares, linework is shit, pose is quite rigid,
head is too big and does not work with the pose of the neck also you have no interesting details

Is keys to drawing easier to pick up and learn stuff with compared to drawing on the right side of the brain? I tried the latter for a bit and got too lost in the details and ended up reading more than I was drawing. I have some experience drawing and painting, but I'm still not really good and want to up my game a bit.

Is it posible to get smooth lines without the brush smothing option?
Cause that feels kind of like cheating and getting smoth lines naturaly in digital drawings
is a pain in the ass, atleast for me.
Im also trying to practise drawing with my shoulder, should I stick with filling pages with one single exersise to better focus on that or is it ok to do silly stuff like i did here?

>>2210121
they're fun, and pretty much that alone to a beginner. If you want to get anywhere, go black and white (charcoal is good) and learn your fundamentals from the sticky. You're going to have a damned time trying to get decent value with basically any pastels that you buy these days because there's little pigment and lots of binder.

Also, smudging is for scrubs- sure it's fun, but you need to learn to gradate (or represent gradation) without smudging. Check this out:

http://pastelnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/sargent.jpg

He did some smudging, but for the most part, the areas are distinct. The gradation is largely just from going directly over one color with another.

>>2211684
to be fair he's right, it could have been anything.

>>2211802
Bump out of curiosity

>>2211802
>>2211863
In my opinion Keys to Drawing is better, I had more fun with it. Stop taking them seriously, though. Right Side of the Brain is full of bullshit.

If you're already a bit experienced just skip them, those books are for people that have never used a pencil in their entire lives for anything other than writing.

>>2209806
You might want to reconsider

>>2211866
I've had some experience but I've not really had a lot of formal training, basically only had one art class in my adult life so most of my learning is from just winging it.

I wouldn't say I'm very good though, but I don't symbol draw too much at least (except maybe still with drawing people because it's a really tough habit to shake). Should I go for something like Loomis instead?

>>2211824

ok, i tried

>>2211866
>not enjoying the pseudoscientific babble

>>2211824
No rules only tools.

Okay. So i just made this. It's me. I started drawing a few months ago and this is my first visit to /ic/ (yes I read the sticky). I see everyone throw around the term Symbol Drawing like it's the plague, so... Am I a bad offender? How do you recognize it?
Second question: How the fuck do I hair? Is there a specific trick to getting the shine right or is it just practice?
Also, hello board!

>>2211909
Not bad but you should try really pushing the values, more hard edges and more really dark spots so everything pops out more IMO.

>>2211909
>There is some symbol drawing-ness with the iris's and pupils particularly. Try drawing some from reference really just thinking of it as lines and values. Other than that, it dose seem you've at least got the right ideas in your head.

As for hair, yea it's kind of a cunt to figure it out. Try thinking of it as masses rather than strands, it helps a bit.

>>2211914
Will do, thanks!

>>2211912
Like this?

>>2211909
I think it's a good start. You want to pay attention to the values near the eyes though. The lips have a good variety but the regions around the eyes are a bit dull.

The only possible case of 'symbol drawing' I can notice is the eyes. Pay close attention to the proportion between the iris and the pupil in pic related.

>>2211935
It's a bit better but you could maybe go even darker in a few spots. Try a softer pencil if you have them, they can help. Also try drawing the little things on the face if you can, few people have perfect complexions and that stuff makes it feel more real. The actual picture probably has a lot more fine lines and things like that. The lips for instance feel a bit flat because the smaller details around it aren't filled in enough. Not sure if that helps or not but that's just what I noticed.

>>2211249
This is the beginner thread, there's no call for this.

>>2211968
Thanks for all the delicious advice! I'll keep working on this tomorrow, I'm 3tired right now.

>>2212018
It's looking a lot better in the lips even with just the darker line! Hang in there.

>>2211357
Thanks. I'll get on that.

animation?

>>2212149
The punches are very off balance in an unnatural way, and the whole thing is weirdly stiff. I had to watch it several times before I even noticed the guy raised his leg, it doesn't read well.

>>2212018
resize your images Christ.

i just did this sketch fast, i hate the left side and the nose looks ugly. Tell me more wrong things, heh.

>>2212206
lips too dark, hair too poofy, head maybe too round

>>2212206
take a steady so we can see the thing

Making slow progress. Trying to re-create the cover illustration of The Prophet done by Gibran.

>>2210386
Overall, pretty good. Though I would try to blend in the shadows a bit. It seems a bit like the curves have edges to them.

>>2212206
Just because it's a sketch it doesn't mean that you should fill it with senseless lines. Learn to properly shade.

>>2211902
Holy fuck the texture tho...
Very nice.

>>2212288
Be more specific

>>2212206
There are multiple ways of shading. Use the side of the lead it's fastest but can get pretty messy. You can use lines to shade too, CROSSHATCHING, but they have to be going the same direction. Then there's STIPPLING which is using a ton of little dot to shade, it's very time consuming.

>>2210848
nice

>>2210388
hair looks weird, guess its perspective

Input pls

>>2210388
Composition is weak.
Avoid the center. No character on the center-line, nothing important in the middle.

Apathy is an emotion. Even when the character is feeling nothing that's still an emotion. Always make them feel and think.

The empty space. This is just me, but I would make the scarf more wild so it'll fill those.

>>2212306
You're wasting both our time and this thread's image limit.

An attempt at a self portrait.

I realize now that I need to make a conscious effort to be less chicken scratchy.

>>2212318
Yeah come on, take this seriously we're on 4chan.

what are your opinions on the transition from traditional to digital? is it a "just do it" kinda thing? because it feels like something from a different planet haha

>>2212355
Work on perspective

>>2212366
It's a different medium and thus takes considerable effort to get used to

In my opinion it's best to learn fundamentals with paper and pencil, as the medium comes naturally.

>>2212306
>ankle vagina
Fascinating.

>>2212378
so practice in paper and play with the tablet. gotcha.

>>2212388
yea, it'll be hard to actually develop drawing skill using a tablet until you're decently competent with the thing

>>2211886
Why haven't I seen this anywhere before, thanks.

>>2212391
its really soul crushing actually, i see the shit drawings and know i can do better with the paper, god sketchbooks are expensive with normies going back to school and all.

Can you tell what's going on here?

>>2212366
Play with it for a while. Once you get used to it, you'll have a hard time going back to paper and pencil, with all of the handy things a tablet brings to the table, like 100% erasure, an undo button, and layers.

>>2212404
No, it's too messy.

If I had to guess, I'd say anime man talking to anime woman whilst gripping her right arm with a fallout power glove, while a man standing on a precariously balanced rock looks on from the background.

Just started using this app on my phone.

>>2212408
>drawing with your fat faggot finger on a phone

for what purpose

>>2212405
yeah, my pockets are getting empty and i wanted to jump in now to save some money actually..haha

>>2212407
Little confused. You say what it is but you don't know what's going on.

Please explain.

>>2212404
Manic for the love of christ dude, read the sticky, everything you do is just pointless guesswork until then.

>>2212415
Don't fall for the Wacom trap. Get a cheap Monoprice tablet, they're like $40 for a large one (like 12" x 8" of drawing space) and not half bad spec-wise. Or, if you're looking into getting something similar to a Cintiq, but don't want to drop the mad duckets on a Cintiq, get one of those Fujitsu Lifebooks that have a penabled touchscreen, or a Thinkpad X61T / X201T.

>>2212418
Note the prefix "guess" in my sentence.

>>2212412
With a stylus, actually. And it's my only means of using the internet.

>>2212424
>phone stylus
So a capacitive touchscreen stylus, which is only very slightly better than your fat faggot finger.

>>2212426
Yep, pretty much. Sorry to offend you.

>>2212421
Stop being a neo-nazi everything doesn't have to be the same. Besides this storyboarding, it doesn't have to look good.

>>2212422
Ok I guess I get what you mean. would it be clearer without the back ground? What if it was less sketchy? More detail? Less?

This has more detail. Is it clearer?

>>2212422
i got an intuos 4 medium for 50 bucks on sale actually.

>>2212422
>Get a cheap Monoprice tablet

Quit giving terrible advice. Have fun when you get a dud and end up having to mail it back for a refund and have to pay UPS $40 just to ship it back.

Spend the $90 and get an intuos small. Larger drawing space hardly matters when a lot of people end up only using 30-40% of the surface space in the middle.

>wacom trap

It's a japanese company so don't you dare play the "muh shekles" card.

>>2212430
Redraw it but make a conscious effort to use around a tenth of the lines. Know where and how you want to place your lines before you place them, and you'll end up with a much cleaner sketch.

Yes, it's clearer, but it still very ambiguous (where are the woman's legs? why are the man's hands made out of buckets?) and the anatomy and linework are still poor.

>>2212432
There's absolutely nothing wrong with Monoprice gear, it's well-built and acceptable for the price. It sucks that you got one that was DOA, but that's not the norm. If you're only using ~2 square inches of your tablet your lines are going to be cramped. It's better to have the extra space and not need it than need it and not have it.

>It's a japanese company so don't you dare play the "muh shekles" card.
You cannot for a moment argue that Wacom's hobbyist lines of tablets aren't egregiously overpriced.

>>2212439
>You cannot for a moment argue that Wacom's hobbyist lines of tablets aren't egregiously overpriced

Point taken.

>>2212430
>Stop being a neo-nazi everything doesn't have to be the same. Besides this storyboarding, it doesn't have to look good.

I don't think everything needs to be the same, I simply can't tolerate your complete narcissistic refusal to do anything that might improve you're fundamentally flawed art.

I drew this and it came out weird

>>2212439
Thanks for the tips. I hate lineart, I think it makes everything look terrible BUT I did it anyway.

>>2212441
A neo-nazi thinks things have to be a certain way. There is more than one way to get better at art. And being non-specific or using a joke it terrible advice. e.g. "read the stick" and "LOOMIS"

I think everyone should watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiT6mOt3L08&index=3&list=PLV2X3tgajVlEdqVAMkqfVfSeXDCDL84sf

>>2212475
are they wearing sucker boppers?

>>2212461
>>2212461

>>2212481
I was wondering what was going on there myself. Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqRfI5jqz1U
>it will never be the 90's again

>>2212489
you can still buy a pair.

>>2212487
why the fuck did that flip

>>2212487
The picture is fine. It might look weird because the textures don't match, but it's fine for a pencil drawing

>>2212481
>>2212489
>>2212491
The 90's are awesome but NO
it's VI from league. Those massive metal hands. Should have sketched it first. Glad you get the idea though.

>>2212500
no bro the socker bopper joke was a sarcastic jab at your attempt, you realize viis hands still look like hands right? they arent hard just try to use more anatomy.

>>2212334
p-plis

I don't want to be overshadowed by the special snowflake

How do I into value studies? I decided to finally get out of my comfort zone but this is killing my morale.

Would it help if I did still lifes?

>>2212529
if you cant draw spheres and cubes dont even bother with value studies.

>>2212546
shapes

>>2212334
I'm gonna guess that you're focusing on the exact contours a little too much. I don't see a reason why even the shirt needs that many strokes to lay down.

It might be a bit of a nuisance starting out but draw from your arm/shoulder and think about the forms in blocks or masses.
Try ghosting your lines first as well before putting down strokes, it'll help make your linework immensely cleaner.

>>2212334
This is the kind of sketch art you see of serial killers.

tips on appeal plz

>>2211670
she's nice :)

I have a question about being a beginner,correct me if I'm wrong but to Move on my own I just learn the basics(shading/perspective/anatomy/proportion/etc) and go from their and then I'll be able to create my own style ?

>>2212614
that picture is shit and whoever wrote it had a bad mentality. Sure you need to apply your work, but don't just blow your load doing the same shit without learning. both are nessisart

>>2211640
literally almost flat off the sides. look at yourself in a mirror. your head is flattter on the two sides

>>2212614
There are two parts theory and application.

You learn the stuff from tutorials, that's part one. You do the stuff that's in the tutorials, that's part two.

You can't get good with just one, you have to do both.

>>2212621
Ah shit, I believe proko said that in his video too. I just thought it meant that the side planes were supposed to show that it was flat.

Help me /ic/ im struggling with cubes.

I want to be able to draw a rotating cube in like 10 instances but i cant. I drew this to explain how i feel baout it.

Basically I can only draw cubes directly facing you or turned exactly to the side with the tools I am given.

I know i suck but is there a good and easy way of thinking about this? According to all of the exersices I'm already done but i dont feel that i am unless I can draw a cube rotating in all kind of positions, like 25 degrees up and 70degress down or something.

>>2212657
Each set of two point vanishing points if you want consistent looking objects is snapped to station point and their relationship is always 90 degree, because their planes intersect at exactly 90 degree. This is the key to it all. Every angle can be translated from being _real_ angle to _perspective_ angle. This allows us to create wonderful and technically correct drawings of incline and decline slopes, arches, stairways, triangles, etc. But you need only 90 degree relationship for now.
To create really cool looking 90 degree objects you need to memorize and utilize how this shit works. Hheck this pic out. I made it to illustrate what's going on. If it's distant vp you face, no worries, just divide space into even diminishing grid as shown.
This allows your box entities(because cubes are for architects) to be in one so-called "perspective", i.e. sit on one ground imaginary plane. If they don't, then those entities will look off: slanted, distorted or worse. Stitching them to one station point allows us to precisely stick them on various planar surfaces: i.e., table.

Next thing, rotation. As you may see, each set of vanishing points corresponds at their own respective rotation. We can even measure precise degree if we want, using known SP relationship. 1 point is shown in green on my pic, this is why it behaves this way: 1 point is nothing more than special case of 2 point where one of the vanishing points is strictly 90 degree to centerline. We perceive this as "no perspective" on frontal planes.

Tldr: actually learn strict and formal perspective. I'm running out of space to talk about how to rotate them perfectly lol.
It's much much more shit going on under the hood and what you might think as two dots on straight line is actually perfectly logical system that works everywhere. Learn how gears turn under it and you will master everything dependent of it.
Or you can just go and draw them from steelluuufes and do the same thing unconsciously. Your choice.

>Come back after 10 months to start drawing again
>Beginner threads aren't numbered anymore
>I forgot everything

Okay guys, I'm back. But for Pete's sake, I won't touch Betty Edwards ever again.

Is there any way to avoid this doubled bitch ass nigger shit, which made me stop drawing?
Can I go straight for Loomis and stick with him?

>>2212733

I never bothered with edwards properly and I can manage with close enough photostudies. The book is more geared to observational drawing iirc.

Depending on your goals you can skip it. Examine exactly what made you quit and think about your own goals before deciding whether or not to commit to a book. I preferred Hampton+Vilppu+Matessi for figure drawing and Norling+Robertson for perspective over Loomis, try more stuff.

>>2212722
I tried understanding this but I'm having trouble understanding the first sentence. Blaming it on me not being a native english speaker and kind of dumb anyway. I feel a bit embarrassed since you spend so much time writing this without me getting it, like at all.

How do you mean "snapped into station point?" plus "is always 90 degree"?

Whats a station point. I also don't understand the drawing at all, or like - half of it maybe.

What is the angle thats always supposed to be 90 degrees?

I can see how this is supposed to be good since moving the object changes the vanising points and having one vanishing point its just to draw the other one from 90 degrees or something?

Again, sorry but I think I've read too much on the subject and I'm missing one or two pieces for things to click in place, I just don't get this at the moment.

>>2212744

the station point is the abstracted position of where the viewer stands.

To create vanishing points that do not distort the form you are looking at (in 2 point perspective) the straight lines that go from each vanishing point to the station point should form a 90% angle.

So if your left vanishing point is at a 60% angle from your station point (i.e. further away) then your right vanishing point is 30% (closer). If your vanishing points are equally spaced from where your viewer is they will both be at 45%.

Eyy I'm back and the pic is done mostly. Still can't really into hair.
Pls crit

>>2212762
It's a front veiw. try 3/4th angle next,

it's a good study, well done, not a very interesting picture though

>>2212762
The whole thing looks flat due to using a small range of value.

>>2212762
use smooth paper.

Never use rough paper for pencil drawings, even if it advertises itself as good for pencil drawings.

>>2212733
You can totally skip it. Most other books about drawing fundamentals say the same thing and are more useful. They are also not written by a person who broke into teaching way too early and is way more bothered with getting clients with their meager skills.

>>2212776
So it is the paper that makes it look sorta "dirty"? I used the paper I had lying around, just bought a batch of Bristol a minute ago.

>>2212772
Where should I go darker? The edges of the face? Parts of the hair? Nose?

>>2212767
Will do. I didn't do any emotions because I'm not confident enough for that yet. Practicing the basics of faces comes first I figured

>>2212792
Needs more focus on those titties bro

>>2211798

Care to post constructive criticism, or are you just going to leave it at "it's shit"?

>>2212806
Not that same guy but did you actually read his post? He told you a lot of things that's wrong with the picture that you could probably fix with some knowledge of anatomy and whatnot.

>>2212806
Different anon. I'll rephrase what he said so you can understand:
Apply realistic gravity to the tits, redo the face to make it less "Uncanny Valley"-esque, clean up your lines, learn to draw better poses (quickposes for days is what I did), reduce the size of the head and correct it's position relative to the neck (again, anatomy). Furthermore since this is supposedly a character design, adding some character to the design wouldn't hurt. Make it less generic by adding details.

There you go. He gave you a list of shit to work on. If you need someone to explain you the exact process you'll never get better.
All you need is a pencil, paper and the material in the goddamn sticky. Get to it.

>>2212744
I am sorry for misunderstandings, I am not native english speaker myself. I will try to simplify concept some more. Station point as other anon said above is where you stand. In formal perspective it has properties of being simultaneously "out there" in space and "flattened" in the picture, which helps us to build relations between objects. You can think of it like a "pet door" that has two positions - closed(flattened) and open at 90 degree angle("out there").
We use 90 degree because mostly all objects can be described with "bounding box". It's a term from 3d platforms, you probably seen models inside grey semi-transparent boxes. We treat objects in similar fashion when draw. Any object can be simplified to the point only box will remain. This helps greatly to position objects in space since box is easiest object to control and details can be added inside or on top of it later with great precision.
Rectangle is formed from 90 degree angles. "Flattened" Station Point allows us to translate _real_ 90 degree angles into infinity that forms horizon line and where flattened projected angle touches that infinity, vanishing points are formed. Correctly described 90 degree vanishing point allow us to project correct infinite plane into actual "space" of picture. As long as stuff inside picture abides to this particular set of vanishing points formed by flattened 90 degree projection, it will be parallel to each other and all of them will share same turn degree when we look at them from our station point. If we made scene like this and station point was our head it would look nearly exactly like it is in our picture. This is true power of perspective.

I encourage you to explore this simple psd file I created to help you better understand the concept behind it.
http://rghost.ru/6Y72sqT7p

Hi. I know my proportions are wrong, and the boob part and the frame and the hands, and face, but I feel there are much more, what can I do about it ? Do I neee more practice or do I have to go back and study? Thank you.

>>2212850
its awful, read the sticky

>>2212850
You stylize to the point where your figures look like they're bulimic moeblobs without understanding of realistic proportions or shading. Start with normal stuff first otherwise your stuff will keep on being shitty.
Try Loomis

>>2212866
did you ever read a single loomis book?

>>2212866
Thanks for the advice , but can you tell me what loomis are?

>>2212862
What sticky

>>2212850
I have no idea why but this was super fun. I took your drawing and applied what I know as proportions to it in the best software, MS Paint.

How'd I do?

>>2212911
>>1579290
http://alexhays.com/loomis/

>>2212911
Um. Are you trolling or did you never use an imageboard before? The sticky. At the top of the /ic/ page. Y'know, the one with the pic next to it saying "Read the fucking Sticky".
Also Andrew Loomis is a guy who will teach you how to draw in perspective and anatomically correct. You don't have to read everything he throws at you, but doing the exercises will help you immensely.

>>2212883
Yes. In fact, I have a copy of Figure Drawing for all it's Worth right here since I'm pretty new myself and know my stuff is trash-tier (the portrait above is mine). I find that it has helped me immensely with improving my ability to draw in perspective.

>>2212937
Ohh I see thanks. Yes I have never used anything like this before.

>>2212933
Thanks now I see the difference. I really have to go back and start over.

>>2212973
Don't lose your spirit bro!

>>2212990
I won't! :D

MOTIVATION.

HOW.

So I sometimes see people advise to not put important things of the picture straight in the middle, they call it bad composition. Why? I mean, I have at least seen some charts explaining basics of composition, but I'm not convinced by it. Sure, artists far better than I'll probably ever be have reached those conclusions over the centuries or something, but I literally don't see the reasoning behind >>2212312
>Avoid the center. No character on the center-line, nothing important in the middle.
Does anyone have a proof of how moving things off-center improves the overall quality of the image? And I mean something more than a dry "it conforms to the rules of composition so it's better" statement.

>>2213012
Don't listen to Manic, he's retarded.

>>2213031
This. This so fucking much.

>>2213031
Im just asking you guys to listen to me, thats all.
Also please rape my ass and jerk off my tiny dick.

>>2213031
Yes, I can see it now from the other threads, but my question still stands since it's not the first time I've seen this advice. Just ignore the fact that I quoted an idiot.

>>2213043
Rule of thirds, golden ratio and focal points. That kind of stuff.

>>2213048
Focal points are an actual rule though, they're necessary if you want accurate perspective. The other two are more of guidelines.

I don't know too much about that stuff, but from what I can recall the brain analyzes a picture from the top left to the bottom right and focuses on specific parts of a 9x9 grid more than others. Also edges with high contrast are points of interest.
But I don't think that it's necessarily a no-go to put something in the center

>>2213012

Most rules of composition are rough rules, not hard and fast 'always comply' rules. They can be broken and, if you know what you want and what you're doing, your work won't necessarily suffer for it.

Generally speaking, having something dead center can feel sort of artificial. It's a similar idea as having something perfectly symmetrical. That doesn't mean you can't have something be in the center if it fits what you have in mind.

That said, I could just be another retard buying into what he's heard about composition rules, as well.

>>2213054
Um. I meant 3x3, not 9x9. And that was supposed to reply to >>2213043 .
Maybe I should go to sleep

>>2213048
OK, call me a retard if you want, but I just don't see the importance of these rules. I'm googling them right now and almost all examples I see don't really look better to me than if the images were centered. The rare ones that do differ do so only because the image is specifically made to include two things apart from each other in a way that centering on one would cut out the other. That's not a rule, that's just tailoring the view exactly to accomodate a theory. If I wanted to only include one important thing in my picture, would I need to move it off to the left or to the right? Would it really look better? Because I can't see it.

And then there's shit like pic related. Is the one on the right really a better composition and just a matter of zooming in/out? Am I supposed to focus on her nipples or something?

>>2213067
Or this. Is this golden ratio stuff really helping here? I literally wouldn't notice the arms at the top were it not for that diagram.

Help me with some good examples here; I don't want to stay ignorant thinking it's made up bullshit if it actually works.

>>2212813
>>2212814
>>2211798
OP here, thanks for the critique, Ive been having problems with my art lately and I needed to hear that my work was shit so I know what to fix

>>2211902
The eye is especially impressive. Bring that kind of realism to the beak and the feathers, and you're gold.

>>2213070
My high school art teacher pointed out to me that all of my drawings and paintings unintentionally followed the "golden ratio." I didn't understand or believe him until he used tracing paper on all of my stuff to show me.
Makes me wonder if he's just really good at looking for it in everything.... Like the movie 23 or something.
But he totally blew my mind, and he acted like I was some sort of Machiavellian mastermind that knew what I was doing, yet playing innocent. He kept insisting it was "Okay to tell him." Whatever that meant.

>>2213070
composition is extremely important, it can make or break an image but there are no 100% set rules

this might help a bit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPyjV6BRwoE

I've been told that my gestures don't read well. What's the best way to resolve this? I usually look quickly for the weight-bearing leg, draw a line to complement it, then build from there. Sometimes I get scribbled messes, but when I move onto construction, they usually serve well enough as guidelines. It seems I'm still missing something, however.

>>2213053
>they're necessary if you want accurate perspective
wat
elaborate
>>2213067
What I know of is that they're more like guidelines, no strict stuff. It's like arcane runes for me now HOW the fuck they are looking at it. I'm still learning stuff about composition.

>>2213103
Sorry, I was thinking of vanishing points.

>>2213100
About gesture drawing, anyone know different books than Hampton and Vilppu that I can study?
I wanted to watch proko and sycra videos about gesture drawing too, is it good way to start learining it?

>>2213104
oh
Well it's not that you see them more than you must
I mean what's the point of keeping both vanishing points on canvas? Have to train yourself to see them waaay off.
We see shit closer to orthogonal anyway and that means vanishing points are kilometres apart

>>2213012
>>2213067
>>2213070
You can probably call me BS on this but here's what I think about composition in general.

The rule of thirds feels like an application to how things are ideally seen through our eyes.
Having a focal point dead center feels unnatural to look at because it sort of feels like you have to cross your eyes to really look at the subject and cause everything around it to be ignored.

For the golden ratio, it might be the flow of how our eyes generally look from top-to-bottom and left-to-right (Unless you're Japanese or something maybe).

I might just be babbling here but a good component for composition I feel that needs to always be considered is how the balance of space is distributed. (Positive/negative space)

>"There are no rules, just tools."
The application is meant to simply be guidelines. Artists throughout the ages have just found a formula that has worked to this day. We might've just been influenced by the standard but you can't deny that the "rules" of composition direct appeal for an image when done properly.

The examples you posted feels a bit forced and artificial about how the concepts are supposedly applied though...
(particularly the 2nd one LOL)

I'd really like some real working and thoroughly explained theory of composition. There's plenty of stuff about perspective, but next to nothing about ornamental theory, and composition.
I have some wonderful stuff here in my country but those academic faggots hog it and you have to be really already good to learn from them.

>>2211694
>>2212806
the face is too small for the head, the thing in her hand no clue what it is redraw it, add underwear, it sometimes adds a little extra detail or just put clothes over it

>>2211798
Haven't you ever drawn a girl before? Or looked at a female before? Were you home-schooled around only dudes or something.

>>2212850
http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Andrew%20Loomis%20-%20Fun%20WIth%20a%20Pencil.pdf

Draw a couple of circles.

>>2212933
Could have just drawn over it. If you can draw that is?

>>2212937
never say anatomically correct without understanding it. art generally is not that

>>2213012
Read this book
http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Andrew%20Loomis%20-%20Creative.Illustration.pdf

>>2213031
Fuck you, from Loomis with love

>>2213042
Fasle idol

>>2213048
that's for video and photography

>>2213100
Simple fix is to turn the lines into shapes.

>>2213184
don't have to read the whole book but at least glance over the pictures

Looks like we need a new thread, and remember
>pic related

>>2213318
Is this a good sketch

That's the level I want to acquire.

How long will I need if I draw for 2 hours each day?

>>2213339
its all wrong look at the mounth position vs the ref. and you are drawing symbols

>>2213415
thanks for the critique

so just the face got it
it needs tweeking cause of symbols and mouth position

more scoodles

>>2213397
A long fucking time.

How are you supposed to learn how to draw when your neighbor has dogs that bark all goddamn day and night?

>tfw poor college student
What's a good, cheap tablet that I can get?

My gf recommended bamboo but I cant seem to find any (used or new) within my budget

>>2213561
>wait til night time
>go outside
>open the gate
>go home and draw

>>2213561
Buy some of those ear muffs that they use at shooting ranges.

>>2213458
who are those hug bugs on the top left?

>>2213572
First off, that's disgusting and I hope you die.
Second, that wouldn't work because they're in the house.

>>2213576
I'll look into it.
On a related note: Are you able to art while distracted, or do you need to be able to focus on it?

>>2213620
Just acquire a taste for heavy metal

>>2213620
>go on spotify
>check out the focus section
>pick a playlist that I like
>draw for hours
that's what I do at least

>>2212844
>psd

I'm glad Sai can open these.

>>2213090
A lot of people have a general feeling of "what looks good" composition-wise. I'm surprised it took your teacher this long to notice anyone else. Either that or he was trying to molest you.

>>2213100
>7Ls

Alphunso dunn is mah nigga.

>>2213206
thanks for the advice, clothes were originally going to be there but I didnt have a clear idea of what I wanted at the time

Should I read Keys to Drawing if Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain has left me scared of looking at it for about seven months or so now?

>>2213606
They are just random models on a clothing store site

Want a link?

>>2213570
I have a monoprice that's been good to me for the past year

>>2213874
Most of the cheaper ones use the same digitzer (UC logic). I'd recommend checking out Huion as well, I love mine and you can get some good specs on it for under $100 if you're willing to put up with a small amount of wonkiness.

some fucking idiot made a new thread and didn't tell anybody.

>>2213431
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>>2213628
I'll give this a try

ignore the one on the left it's too shit.

what about the one in the center?

is the form ok? i didn't finished the fingers but is the palm/ thumb/pinkie ok?

>>2215278
from imagination btw

>>2213570

Monoprice is amazing, just got mine for 60 bucks. I mean, you wouldn't want one for professional use, but to start its fantastic

JUST GOT TABLET PLUGGED IN

CTRL PAINT DOES NOT COVER THIS

HOW TO BRUSH SETTING HELP PLEASE GOD HELP