/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

No.

imma start the reflection part, but does the anatomy is ok ?

>>2180030
few things:
don't worry so much about getting the anatomy right besides your proportions, just make sure the limbs and masses of the body look 3 dimensional - imagine limbs as tubes and draw contour lines to make sure the direction of the limb is right
try to avoid using a totally grey background when painting in colour, this goes for the armour as well - even if its just the lightest little bit of saturation
if you can get values right, the colours will be very forgiving, so focus on that, especially for the armour
Also work bigger, dont worry about little details atm cos you're gonna have to paint over them again and again until colours and values are sorted - work from big to small

not done the most incredible paintover, but just a few little suggestions in there to work with

>>2180059
Thanks a lot for the paintover and the advices i'm having some blocking to freely draw but yeah i will listen to you

first painting, digital or otherwise.
tips pls

Done with a ball point pen.

>>2179984
is this qt 3.14 enough?

>>2180142
Sorry to say this but she looks cross eyed. It was the first thing I noticed when I saw the image.

Just started this, dunno where to go with it really, the empty box is meant to be him holding a bottle or two of something but I'm drawing a blank when it comes to the positioning - anyone got ideas/suggestions?

>>2179984

some face doodles

>>2180086
I don't believe you.

>>2180167
>>2180180
I dig it.

>>2180142
wtf no qt cross eyed gf

>>2180167
Is this from a mirror? The proportions seem a bit odd, like the features feel a bit small for the head, and the ears seem really big/sticking out a lot.

Overall it is fairly well painted, though some slight perspective issues (nose out of perspective, slight other features perspective issues). The painting looks a bit muddy too. I think it is the way the highlights are really desaturated, like it is a very white light despite the warm skintones and room. If the light was that cool then the whole painting would have a cool cast to it. Or it's more of a specular light that would be that more white colour, in which case it wouldn't be so spread out.

Edges are handles quite nicely overall, though a few places are a little too hard. The shirt collar has a razor edge on it, same with the jaw and the cast shadow on the neck. If they were just a tiny bit softer (but still hard) then I htink it would be much nicer.

>>2180185
I have a lot of drawing experience. Just bought a Wacom Intuos and this is my first painting with it. Never painted before that.

>>2180086
>>2180196
It's got pretty nice control for a first attempt. That being said, it's by no means a great painting.

Not much point in giving a ton of advice now though since you are so new and still need to get used to working digitally. My advice is to just knock out a lot of paintings now, both quick ones and a couple long ones. Don't get too caught up in texture brushes but do experiment with them and other things as much as you can.

TEAR ME APART

Just realized to aid in scaling I need to draw some trees of defined size near the giant.

This is something I made a while ago.

I work with colored pencils and I draw sad characters in some sort of storybook style.

What do you think?

>>2180289

So is he just a giant blue space-marine in the middle of the forest? There's not much of a story being told here.

Before you touch anything, think about that.

>>2180289
Study Bob Ross then come back.

>>2180305
reddit tier

>>2180312
oh

>>2180318
I think >>2180312 is right, but you shouldn't let that discourage you. Your work is simple and charming and I can see it appealing to certain people; keep practicing fundamentals and try to incorporate those into your stylization

>>2180329
Thanks buddy, I will. I'm slowly starting to add more things into my latest works and developing better concepts.

I want my style to seem like something nice and children-friendly but with a deeper story that older people would understand.

i draw from imagination way to much

Has a bit of a tenney johnson feel to it. Pretty happy about that.

>>2180369
Those look pretty good though.

kraf

lemme have it, /ic/

Fuck my shit up, /ic/

I'm prepared to re-draw anything. I like the practice anyways.

>>2180369
I like how you use tone! i also like the ears
>>2180167
I like this a lot, i would work on the bust a bit more though
>>2180142
Great Value! i would make the right eye look more spherical
Portrait drawn from imagination

The left pose is making me feel weird

>>2180479

why is the bleeding soldier giving the other guy a piggyback?

>>2180508
>>2180509
why does your s look like that

Tips on heavy fabric? And color?

... and value.

>>2179984
studying some of the rendering in this piece i choose randomly from Mtg artwork lol.

>>2180570
legs and torso at different camera angles

>>2180591
heavy fabric wrinkles less bc it's thick and is harder to crease
after that, how you color it is up to what kind of heavy fabric it is. eg:silk is more reflective than thick linen
right now you have two sets of dark curtains framing lighter areas, creating two focal points that are competing with each other.

i'll make a redline paintover if u want

>>2180600
the edges on the metal are pretty crisp. you should push your study further with light lines over the dark edges to draw them out further

>>2180608
i dont know if it's metal or a horn as part of the skull. i'll give it a shot, thank you.

>>2180479
Draw a shit ton more gestures bro.

>>2179984
can someone make a new alt art thread as the old one has lapsed. Sorry but i'm no good at making threads and usually fuck them up so I can't do it.

>>2180479
fuck, the horse in the back's nose looks like dr doom and I cant unsee it

>>2180479

Why don't they have faces?

>>2180637

Same thing happened to me. Kinda creeped me out

>>2180605

>i'll make a redline paintover if u want

I was kind of hoping for one, if you have the time.

>>2180603
Thanks so much!

WIP

>>2180671
There's just something wrong about the perspective on the torso in comparison with the rest of the body. The vagina and the breasts both have a perspective on them of looking up at them, while the torso looks like it remains straight on eye level. The belly button also looks slightly too high up, and the arm above her head a little stiff. Looking cute otherwise - keep at it.

>>2180645
homogenize the reds
integrate the light source into the image

>>2180706
Thanks man! Yeah not so distracting now

>>2180703
I think it's her right leg (it looks like an egg, quads don't look like that) and a bit of her right tit (scratchy lines end up making the line look too thick)

Also armpit looks weird, maybe remove that line next to the hair?

>>2179984
I've been having issues with my drive to draw with these past few days. I decided to doodle for around 30 pages in my sketchbook, and now my drive is back. Does anyone go through this period of not being able to draw? If so, how do you fix it?

something weird with this pose or the light source. she's suppose to be sideways view.

>>2180741
Well she looks like a female cheetoh, for one.

>>2180751

desert elf. i keep changing things around, and i've also never colored to the extent of knowing color theories or light source. i want to add clothes to her later on when the pose is completed.

>>2180765
>. i want to add clothes to her later on when the pose is completed.
inb4 bikini alike suit

>>2179984

Point out what is wrong/could be improved

>>2180780

don't be a faggot, anon. i like bikinis.

Charcoal, about 20 mins

>tfw black so black it ruins your grays

Plz give me some pointers/critques.

>>2180812
Them pretty boy eyes

>>2180810
also noticed I drew it horizontal so it got stretched as fuck ayyy why just end me now

>>2180305
Tim Burton plz

>>2179984
AYY I'M BACK WITH ANOTHER STATUE STUDY

Sorry, again on mobile, big file size is inevitable

>>2180855
It's not gothic or creepy enough to be similar lmao

>>2180832
It looks v nice

Is that Björk?

>>2180788
I have seriously hard time figuring out your light source, since it's different between those two. Also mouth is in different perspective.

>>2180909
You've never seen bjork if you think that's her, she has some really fucked ayyy lmao face.

>>2180909
A friend of mine is a photographer and she's friends with loads of qts

>tfw she wants to hook me up with them

>>2180911
Oh they are not supposed to be sharing the same light source, the left one is just the same drawing but before i painted it, the "shadows" on the left one are just there because as i was drawing i wanted to feel the form I suppose.

>>2180917
It looks a bit like her though, from the nose and up

>>2180919
then why the heck are you not out with one of them qts this very instant

I really need help and critique on that one. I've been struggling for a while, I was kind of afraid fo continuing this drawing.
It's a ""kind of japanese" city, but I don't know if I should continue or drop it ?
Does it look currently okay ? I'm not sure at all.

I took two photos and put them on a photoshop.

>>2180931
Looks great

took it back, going for stronger line art and different framing, gonna add female lions on sides so it's integrated with composition design, i know hands or feet are fucking shit right now, gotta use reference on them so don't worry

>>2180059
is it the good way ?

>>2180928
b-but I need to git gud first!

>>2180934
Thanks, I'm kind of bummed because I failed some parallel lines and I was afraid it would make everything looks shitty.

>>2180940
>all those lines
anon pls stay safe

>>2180941
what do you mean ?

>>2180951
I feet that it's really tedious. I did some simple tries to gain some sense of perspective but tackling complex backgrounds like that one would mean hell to me. I can't imagine doing a bad line and it influencing the rest of the lines, making everything awful

>>2180591
Hey the perspective is completely off and all over the place. I'd suggest scrapping this one, doing some perspective research and then trying again.

>>2180966
It's new to me, I used pictures to help me.
The biggest issue is to fill the page with buildings.
There are people who can draw buildings with their imagination, it's impossible to me, I rely a lot on sources and photos.

I'm very careful on lines, I don't rush them, but there are still mistakes

Warming up with some Croquis Cafe life drawing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhkhIjmhltU

>>2180783
>>2180786
very spoopy

>>2180580
>>2180580

No clue? Ive been writing it like that since elemntary school ^^

>>2180939
>git gud first

My dick would have already visited all of them if i were you.

>>2180568
why work from imagination? I am a 100% sure that you are not even able to do this well with a reference.

the usual sunday painting

Fucking around with a ball point pen

What the fuck is wrong with half of you? Don't you still get the point of downsizing your images?

>>2181091
Do you really expect me to open that? Fuck you.

>>2181104
>>2181091
Sorry m8, didnt read the first post.

I'm still quite a newb. Any feedback would be appreciated.

I can draw relatively well realistically and decided to give a cartoony style a shot

I've attempted numerous times to pick up drawing, and my laptop's been out for repairs for a while so I had an excuse to start from scratch. I've gotten prettty good at doing Crash Test Dummy heads, but the Loomis mannequin is a monster. I know the proportions but can't manage to pose it without reference. Any tips? alternative methods of constructing the body?

Sorry for pic quality, tablet cam sux

>>2181120
lines too vague to get any sense of the anatomy. picture looks poorly composed and hastily done.

you should have posted in alternative art/stylization or the beginner thread. it's still a bad image by any standard, though.

>>2180716
cool, I like the dramatic lighting. edges of the subject are clean and that's nice to look at in a painterly drawing
>>2180835
nice energy but I feel like there's some weird perspective on all of them. Like top-left, the hip and the shoulders are at an angle that doesn't look right. And the perspective on top-middle is weird too, or maybe the posing overall.
I don't even know what's going on with mid-left.

>>2180936
looks promising. I like how you've blueprinted out the lights and reflected/blue light. Really liking this right now, gl with the rest.

>>2180783
whooa, loving that texture tho.

>>2181153
proko
your body lacks any sort of 3-dimensionality

consider drawing the body in terms of boxes and cylinders before attempting anything more complex just to understand how perspective/3d works

>>2181180
thx, im trying to make more clear forms so it won't depend enteirly on the textures

I had a lot of fun with this one...haven't sat down and just painted for myself like much at all for months now.

>>2181183
are your drawings completely freehand?

>>2180783 has some repeated elements that remind me a lot of glitch art

>>2181183
I like your stuff, it nice to see people who are more bold and experimental. This piece i really enjoyed.

>>2181182
not the anon you were helping, but bless you for doing this. made me start doing some exercises using blocks to construct people since I'm having trouble imagining everything about the body all at once. Constuction and beginning to imagine the figure to lay down a good base is always the hard part for me. So thanks!
>>2181183
That's good. I was sort of worried that you were relying on texture to compensate for form, but it's good that you're aware that it's something to watch out for.
>>2181198
Very cool. But I can't help but feel that something is... out of place, or missing? Probably the lack of foreground and tons of mid-ground and no background. But still, I like what you've done.

>>2181204
>>2181206
this drawings i make by drawing a little and then i copy and drag them pressing shift, then i fix some details

Part of a poster I'm doing, white space is for text.

>>2181198
Needs stronger shadows.

>>2180679
Didn't know people on /ic/ could draw tbh

>>2181198
Aside from the brushwork being sloppy, I like this one. Are you going to continue refining it?

>>2181206
Yeah the foreground was bugging me. I was having trouble fitting something in there without it being cluttered or the space looking weird. I ended up with that striped sheet thing in the bottom left that might be a bed or table or something, but I guess it doesn't work fully.

>>2181217
Can you expand on that?

>>2181224
Ah you posted same time I did, missed your post. Uhm, I probably won't continue it to be honest. Usually I stop around this stage for personal work, I guess cause I don't like rendering and I end up doing that all day for work stuff so when I do my own things I just do speedpaints. And yeah, sloppy brushwork is my signature feature :P I guess I should slow down a bit and think through each mark more, it's a bad habit. Somehow I always struggle with it even if I am focusing on it (though I wasn't caring about brushwork this time).

>>2180788
loomis

>>2180931
yeah looks very nice and clean. Keep it up! Tons of respect for those who can bear all of that perspective jazz. Shit's hard and tedious for me.

>>2181087
Something about the atmosphere seems off. I'd add more atmosphere to the sphere area of the painting, and maybe make the spiral thin-out a little sooner, but maybe still go just as far... perhaps a little less actually. Also the rhythm with your jagged grass and sharp-ended curves in combination with the sphere shapes, in combination with the cave, all of which seems to be separated from each other thing, bothers me a lot. Like, there's rhythm, but for every different rhythm in the painting, there's a separate area, and they don't seem to really come together to form something truly... cogent?

Anyways, it's sorta cool at a glance. Love the foreground subject/person. Perhaps if you made it all more horizontal it might be easier to fix all of the weird composition problems, image related

>>2181245
I'm going through his books, but in the meantime could you point out what comes out as wrong? Or is it just kinda bad in general? I just have massive tunnel vision and really can't tell

I'm working on a corpse golem for the cubebrush forums competition

Trying to do it in little chunks at a time, connecting all the dead bodies is challenging.

>>2181213
design is awsome, drawing isn't great but it works

typography part migh need some respite, it need more blanks

>>2181225
There are areas where the moon hits pretty hard, this means that there will be areas pretty dark, you on the other hand mostly have medium shadows, I would add stronger ones.

>>2181226
I follow the logic, but I'm such a stickler for paintings to not look sloppy. I doubt it would even take that much of a time investment to clean up the messiest areas, and add a bit of refinement to points of interest. In an hour you might have this looking rough but finished instead of that unfinished feeling it currently has. I think that could be helpful for learning how to prioritize rendering and to also have a finished product for posting on a tumblr or something.

Full disclaimer: I've never been a fan of the speedpaint look - stray marks and scribbles with a small basic round that don't describe form or texture always looked like rushed noise.

>>2181306
Hm, I'm not sure I follow your logic. Wouldn't there be bounce light filling in the shadows, even if it is a weaker light source (the moon)? I think that coupled with the white painted walls would make it about the value I have. I'm hesitant to get much darker, I mean, it is a backlit nightscene so is already very dark. But feel free to do a paintover or something, I'd be curious how you would handle it.

>>2181334
Ah, well maybe I will work on it more then. I dunno. I think your point is very valid. It's a tough line to find though, like I personally am a fan of Mullins and loose speedpaints and stuff, so I can't tell when I leave it too sloppy. And I don't really mind posting sloppy stuff on my tumblr haha! I don't really post things for fans or for clients. I just post stuff when I like it. But maybe it is a good idea to spend just a bit longer and clean up the mess somewhat. But yeah again I dunno this stuff is partly too my breaking away from rendering because I spend my weekdays rendering and photobashing for work.

Apparently, I have never seen water before. How do I draw it? Anyway to make this realistic?

>>2181346
replicating water is all about the reflections of light. If you don't understand how light works (which it doesn't look like you do) then you can't draw water.

>>2181346
Make that image smaller dude holy shit

>>2181283
Cheers 4 reply. Yea I didn't add text in. And I agree on the drawing. Wish I shaded a bit better and less scruffily and there's a few perspective fuck ups. But I'm pleased on how the buildings turned out, all landmarks of the city of Sheffield (UK).

>>2181351
Ok, I will focus on the light. Thank you.
>>2181354
Zoom out dude.

>>2181365
That's not the point you saggy fuck bag. Nobody wants to wait forever to load your shit painting. Make the image size smaller so it loads quicker.

>>2181183

>>2181375
>wait forever to load your shit painting.
Get a better laptop or something, shitbag.

>>2180509

this is my first drawing of a head i've done
tips please

>>2181500
i think you need to get away from representational art for a while. try doing nothing but lines and curves for a few months. abstract shit.

your line quality is just not there. feels really weak. i think some concentrated line confidence and linework practice would do you better in the long run than putting it off and just doing photo studies.

it's really something you should do every few years, but I'd say now is a good time for you to get to it, I sense a plateau coming for you quickly.

>>2181505
>try doing nothing but lines and curves for a few months. abstract shit.

lmao

>>2181505

I was only concerned about my forms while doing the animal drawings, i absolutely agree that my line quality isnt there, simply because i barely pay attention to it at all.

Ive seen a few videos on line weight, which i will hopefully be able to implement in the wolves im about to draw.

>>2181437
left one is so much better, mother final boss/10

>>2181504
Can't really tell what you're going for, a head being covered by flowing hair?
Go read the sticky and determine where you are, and pick up some books from the book thread
You should block out hair in big clumps before stroking in detail, don't go straight into hair strand by strand. It looks sort of like you're using the hair to hide bad face structure, Loomis's "Head and Hands" book can help with that. The neck looks a bit long and the shoulders a bit thin, as well. There are tons of anatomy/gesture books that can help you with stuff like that.

feeling alright about this. still needs a couple of hours though.

>>2181198 here again, in a seafaring mood today


>>2181541
Looking pretty cool man. Watch the tangent of the left tree/top of picture.

never for a moment in my life tried anything art related b4

rate me /ic/ this took like an hour

>>2181561
how did it even take you an hour

>>2181555
I'm in love with this, keep going.

I had fun.

>>2181198
>>2181555
Are these original, or from some other paintings?

beginner thread is MIA, so I'm asking for help here instead. I know I'm under level, but I'm just asking if there are any improvements needed

>>2181564
Thanks!

>>2181569
They're mine, not studies.

>>2181555

Thanks man. Also holy fuck that is one dark wip. Mermaid staring directly at the viewer is a nice touch.

>>2181574
Damn, excellent job, then. You're composition is stellar.

>>2181271
Thanks a lot m8, I push these through in one sitting and tend to stop seeing the obvious issues within it. Will consider this for the next time

>>2181575
Hehe yeah it's pretty dark. I was thinking of titling it "Bad Luck" or something, like maybe they accidentally killed it. Or maybe they killed it on purpose for some reason even knowing that it would bring bad luck to their ship. I dunno, fun to think of a bit of a story though. Like they're probably gonna get fucked up by some storm shortly after this.

>>2181578
Cheers! Especially for the second one it took a ton of time fiddling to get the composition working the way I wanted (lots and lots of recropping, repainting, moving things around, experimenting with local values etc), so I'm glad it shows through. Still not perfect, but I think for sketches they are fine.

>>2181563
never touched an art program in my life
had to figure out what the fuck all the tools do

>>2181588

looks like you used overexposed overcontrasty photos to study from?

>>2180703
>>2180709
here's an update.

>>2181658
yeh much better

derp

>>2181555
keep it! define drawing, clean all edges and smooth brush strokes to avoid unexistent edges, write down where you want to economice details and end it

I'm really unsure, my brain is onsome kind of a deadend. How can I improve the textures, and how do I make it so that the trees seem more attached to the hill? And these fugging mountains suck (like everything else).
Any tips?

>>2181670

that's actually not a half bad way of getting the proper shadow locations.

>>2181862
You paint like some boring eurotrash gypsy hipster kid. Are all your compositions so flat looking or is that just the way you paint?

>>2181670
what the fuck

>>2181872
WIP

Need some thought on line work, anatomy, perspective, or any other thing that stands out to you, thank you so much in advance!

Also, It going to have a symmetric design once I'm done, I'm just playing with some different layouts.

How do you guys like my doggo?

>>2181104

I don't know about you, but clicking that once loaded it for me in literally two seconds.

>>2180167
wish i could utilize colors like this.

>>2180671
The arm is fine and contrary to >>2180703 from where you'd expect the viewpoint to be (the torso) the torso is correct. And the belly button is in the right place considering the drawing's style.
Though maybe lowering the mouth a tiny bit would look better

>>2181872
>>Are all your compositions so flat looking or is that just the way you paint?

No I don't think so. What is it in this piece that makes it so flat looking anyway? Either way thank you for taking the time to insult me.

Working on my hatching and proportions.

>>2181914
The ship could use some atmospheric perspective to separate it from the dog in terms of value, and also making the whole picture have more depth.

>>2181844
Hmm, maybe make one side of the central hill a bit darker than the rest, giving more volume to the whole shape?
Regarding the mountains, you could make them more varied (currently the whole left part have pretty much the same height). Also, you could add blueish atmospheric perspective, making them look even more distant - http://outrageousestates.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Austrian-Alps-1.jpg.pagespeed.ce_.KQ1lPWfbV5.jpg
For the trees, you could also add atmospheric perspective to the further parts and add some bigger dark patches to the nearer parts (holes between the leaves/tree trunks) - https://alarkinrovigo.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/italian-alps.jpg

>>2181205
I love how you show the forms, very clear and precise!

>>2181570
That's very good for beginner, the whole form is readable. The grass carpet in the bottom looks pretty flat, maybe you can add a shadowed area beneath the log to indicate that the grass goes down there, after resuming the horizontal position?

>>2181951
I'm not him, but I guess he thinks about flat floor, ocean and sky, it has no variation if you compare different locations from the point of view

how is it for the moment? is skin too saturated or is it ok?
wasting most the time experimenting how to do next step :'l
I want to be sure it's working as color block phase

>>2181970
Whats the white pen you are using and the paper?
Nice hatching mate, you made me want to try myself at this!

>>2181588
Looks uninteresting tbh
add some lily pads or some shit

>>2181970
are you the guy that went to FZD?

>>2181970
First of all, holy shit its you I love your stuff. Your sketches are a big inspiration, one of my favorites being that hornbill.

second of all, thank you for helping me out, I added some darkness under the log and some taller grass to add variation. I'm not too sure that the extra sprigs of grass add anything to the look so I might just remove them

plebby DC fanart comin' through~

>>2181844
This is actually quite gorgeous. I think you could make a pretty penny if you did these in traditional and sold them at so and so gallery. I'm really liking the way you did the middle ground trees (with the hard edges- very interesting)

>>2182151
>I think you could make a pretty penny if you did these in traditional and sold them at so and so gallery
I don't think galleries are looking for scenes like that

>>2181844
The warm green of the trees compared to the green of the middle hill push them forward. what you should do is use a colder green. With this you can give your whole composition more volume and size. Having a colder color does not only mean desaturating it or putting more blue in it, it's about how it interacts with the rest. There are desaturated blues that are warmer than some reds

It's hard to solve because your palette is pretty high (as is in most digital art) and any slight change could move your colors everywhere

Really appreciate the lack of lines and using black that way

>>2180788
poor guy, he has no cheeks!

>>2182148
leg position so bad

Never really got textures.

>>2180885
dude... what the fuck. What made you decide to upload a picture with such a glaring flaw?

A couple of months ago I had one of those art-brain-farts where you forget how to draw something, and it happened to be women's faces, so I sat down to try to work it out. Completely forgot about it after a couple of them and just now today I remembered and finished it. I used the old drawings, but it's still alright. The ones marked with O are old and the ones marked N are from today. Dunno how I feel about this.


>>2181345
If this is yours, then jesus, it's really good. Sweet textures and shiet, just that the person looks quite stiff. If you can loosen it up and put some more concrete things in focus, this'll be a good one.
>>2181205
Lookin' a lot better than what I saw before. Don't be afriad to actually paint in the hooves though, and don't noodle too much with the face.

>>2182199
looks like something tehmeh would paint

>>2182199
These are nice

>>2182199
Yeah that one is mine. Thanks for the comment on the figure (perhaps stiff because I based it loosely on a statue? or maybe that is an excuse :P). I wasn't so sure about the piece as a whole, it seemed weaker than the two nautical pieces I posted which seemed to also get a lot more attention. It's also a bit less thought out as an image/story.

To return the crit: your portraits seem...well, a bit boring. The facial features are not well defined and are generic and the lighting and colours on all of them is dull. I think you should be careful of getting "lazy" with the features. The eyes are just a couple strokes, sort of a shorthand for it. But you aren't showing the structure of the eye well, how the eye is a sphere with lids that wrap the form, and then the nuances within that like how the shape changes by the tear ducts, or how the upper lid interacts with the fat surrounding it and filling the socket, or how the iris bulges skilghts and will change the appearance of the lids depending where the eye looks. A lot of the noses too you just blurred the cast shadow with the nose. While this can be appropriate to use in some instances, when you are practicing like this I think it is a bit of a cop out from painting in the nostrils, wings, and general structure of the nose.

It would be good I think if you spent a few minutes finding some reference photos/paintings of faces in the same positions, then taking lessons form them and applying it. Maybe you will notice some structure to the head that you can use. Or they have a distinctive feature or proportions that you may want to incorporate. Maybe there is an interesting lighting on the face that has some subtle colours you want to use and some interesting shadow shape you would have never invented. How can you push these portraits further?

>>2181284
hella funky doodle

>>2181970
thanks for the tip, I've tried the thing with more blue-ish mountains and it does have an effect. and the dark patches between the tress is something I actually had in it, but all over the place.thanks.
>>2182164
sorry, I have some trouble understanding you. Pushing the green of the trees to a warmer tone, so there is more distance between them and the trees on the hill? and regarding the cooler colour tone, i've no clear idea how to do that; what I tried was to replace the bright spot of the top further down and thus closer the spectator, I gave the top hill some darker green, which seem to me actually warm but quite cool in the image context?
anyway i appreciate your feedback.

I also added some elements, trying to bring in more depth and placed the mountains slightly higher.

>>2182180
Could you elaborate a bit? I was a little self concious about the legs but I really liked them. I used a reference but I warped it a lot to give it more motion.

>>2182377
To me your legs are fine. I'd make his left feet twist inwards but it's me.

experimenting with color a bit
or I didn't really want to bother with trying to open my ancient tubes of watercolor

>>2182377
Look at that reference, his left leg looks completely different.
Yours looks as if he is making a backwards dance move, not intimidating in the slightest.

>>2182188
What flaw please?
This is about as helpful as a fly bouncing on and off a turd.

You mean the browline?
The alignment of the eyes? I stood below it

>>2182478

the eyes are extremely off axis. go into photoshop and flip canvas, i promise you will see the error and your jaw will drop

>>2182462
using references does not mean exact copying
the main problem on his pose is that he didn't trought anything about weight or gravity center, which is quite far from feets, making that pose drunk

poo

ass

Castlevania WIP

my attempt at a thumbnail, dont know how to clean it up tbh

fuck my shit up

>>2182607
Be more careful with values and edges on your atmospheric perspective. With the value range so dark on that walker and so limited on the guys next to it and the guy directly in front of it, they don't even look like they're in the same picture.

I thought it was one of those collagey things at first. Similarly, those super hard edges in the back but lost-and-found in the front.

You're good at polish, but you need to think your polish through before you get caught up in perfecting shiny shit.

Somebody say something

>>2182607
Keep in mind of the basic background-middle ground-foreground. The foreground should be the darkest, background the lightest. It helps the composition, establish space between the figures, and helps create a focal point which your picture doesn't really have much of yet.

>>2182485
I know, I did this from life and so the angles shifted like 3 times, I set the left (his) eye in and redid the second eye due to losing my angle.

Oh well, I mean I stood there for 2 hours, it's not photo reference.

I am studying more though, look forward to more my friend.

I hope you still liked some of it

>>2182630
>>2182630
Thanks a lot for the suggestions. This is my first time painting a large scene.

Does this work better? I brought the primary figure closer to the side and lightened the values on the walker and background.

Trying to improve the outcome by constructing it in more complicated ways. I think there's something to learn.

>>2181555
holy shit do you have a blog or something I can follow? saved

>>2182621
something.
im that fucking guy.

>>2182462
>>2182491
Okay, do the legs look broken or the perspective too warped though?
I just kinda like the whole drunken out of gravity look. Like remember Vilpu or Loomis or hampton or one of those saying "make your gestures look like they are just almost about to fall over, or jump" or something like that.
But I'm not okay if it looks like the anatomy is busted or anything like that.
>>2182388
yeeeah I might.

if studies are allowed

>>2182698
I'm not the greatest artist but I don't really like the composition in this; and the guy on the right is a bit stiff/boring. My eyes are wanting to go to that building in the background but the guy on the right is dragging them over to him and he's not quite as interesting as the rest of the piece.

20 minute poses

>>2182808

>>2179984

>>2179984

>>2182698
whys that guy pointing at the enemies directly in front of him as if it wasnt fucking obvious they were there, if he's giving a command to attack why would he wait till he's a few feet in front of them? At least have him behind cover or otherwise take him out or have him doing something else

Working on this, it's frustrating.

>>2182810
>>2182808
Time to work on better gradation skills so you can make stuff look soft/smooth sometimes. You have the whole plane/form thing (almost) down. Last time I saw your stuff it was a huge jump from the time prior, but now it seems you've plateau'd.

>>2181505
wow this post is dumb

>>2182989
worked for me. i was drawing shit like this 2 years ago and i did these two today
>>2182808
>>2182810
not perfect but all that practice with line confidence helped immensely

>>2182906

pls someone

mep

>>2179984
I draw this one looking to a drawing from Frank Frazetta. I have the problem that i can draw somethng when i see it, but i can't from my own imagination.
Does this happen only to me? or someday i wil be able to draw from memory/imagination if i keep practicing?

>>2183096

It's because you don't know the information required to draw from your imagination. What is it you want to draw? Why? What kind of personality do you want to character to have? Do you want a character? If not, then what are you trying to tell with the image you're producing? All of this is a part of what you want to convey to your viewer.

Also don't namefag, this is 4chan.

>>2183106
but isn't /b/

I really need to learn how to apply clean beautiful textures like feathers and fur, instead of scribbling semi-randomly. Ref - http://www.publicdomainpictures.net/pictures/20000/velka/great-hornbill.jpg

>>2182070
Thanks, i used white gouache in that pic, applied it with a small square brush. That's a simple cheap toned paper, don't even have a brand name.
Please show what you've done once you start sketching :3

>>2182097
Nope, self-taught.

>>2182109
I've never done hornbill before, so you confused me with someone else. Could you link his stuff though? Also, thanks for the idea, that bird is super fun to draw.

>>2182183
I know that feel. Your feathers are much better looking than mine though, so thanks for the inspiration, i'm gonna do a few more birds now.

>>2183112

I wanna see how you handle all colors instead of the paper + gouche. It would be really interesting to see where you take it.

>>2181065
Whoa calm down human photo copy machine. I never said it was great but practice makes perfect.

>>2183112
I really admired your bug before, but have to admit that this doesn't work at all. Here the details look just rushed and without a direction.

>>2183046
Too much chicken-scratching with the brush.

>>2183112
That reminds me of this piece of mine.

>>2183228
how do you got such thin, sharp, crisp lines
what pens do you use

>>2182815
Are you serious? Rings are the reference you were looking for so you could make muddy chromatic aberration rings without a real circle?

You're a faggot, not as if this should surprise anyone

>>2182906
Nose too long, no bridge, mouth too broad, chin too manly, hair looks like a big chunk of putty

>>2183096
You cannot even draw good with reference, how do you expect to be able to draw halfway decent from imagination?

The lower body is complete garbage, you only have one 2 values, no gradients and no real sense of anatomy or perspective.

Learn to walk before you learn to run.

>>2183096
draw something from memory, then go and look at real references and find out what you did wrong, then fix it.
and with real references I mean real stuff, no frazetta drawings or other stuff that is already stylized.

>>2183237


Had to paint over the old hair just to redesign the head, How do I fix the mouth? I'll post an updated version after I correct those areas.

>>2183245

Hair is gonna take me a bit, I'm gonna leave it alone for now.

Any other glaring mistakes aside from the hat perspective? Is the body/neck manageable?

>>2183233
Pens don't matter, I just bought the cheapest I could find. The thin one is called Scheider Topliner 967 - 0.4 mm, the thicker one is Faber Castell Multimark 1526 - M.

Trying to get better at perspective. I want to get into drawing difficult looking machinery and such. I also want to draw more dynamic poses. Critique maybe? Advice?

>>2183236
Why are you so mad? I painted this before I posted in your shitty ref thread.

>>2183268
what books do you read to ink like that

>>2183310
It' called practice. I'd recommend Peter Han's dynamic sketching, other than that, it's really just practice.

>>2182759

>>2183304
I am not mad because you posted in the reference thread, I am not mad in any way.
I just don't understand someone putting himself on a pedestal and talking down on people while all he makes is a chromatic aberration rings study, that doesn't look good either. Why anybody would want to put this stupid effect on a study is beyond me anyway.

I'm trying hands, but cant fix them yet, hands are my nightmares

any advice? thanks

>>2183381
hands are hard, almost equally as hard as faces or for some people even harder.

Did a yojimbo study of toshiro mifune
What do you think? was finished with the sketch after 30 minutes or something, had to change the sizes a little because I understimated some planes. But I feel that this is a great way to do a drawing/painting, estimating how the different shapes lie in space and connect to each other instead of using contours to guide you.

>>2183112
Thanks for the compliment, but I honestly gave up on using microns because mine are all scratchy, and find it so liberating to use a ballpoint pen. My top one was ballpoint.

>>2183112
why is everyboy going apeshit over this? its just following tat peter hans class..

Work In Progress

Going through the new masters academy Steve Huston Stuff R8 my description of form /ic/

>>2183432
Painting-wise it's alright for hte most part. But why are you painting this? There's no story, no emotion, nothing to it. The design is generic, the character isn't doing anything. Like it is just one of thousands of rendered fantasy girls. What will make this one stand out in the crowd?

>>2183112
>>2183228

Sorry about getting you mixed up guys, but you can kinda see why. I love both of your work. keep on keeping on

>>2183475
It's actually a mascot from other imageboard and I draw her every year. I want to make her better than previous versions and it makes sense when you know the story behind.

>>2183475
>no emotion
>generic
>the character isn't doing anything.
You're blind as fuck doe.

>>2183482
So it's a generic fantasy girl whose colour is green. Still not much there.

I'm probably coming across a bit condescending or mean or whatever, but I am just trying to get you to think about the image and character more. A painting can't ride entirely on the rendering.

>>2183484
Uh, it is generic. It's a fantasy elfish skirt thing that shows cleavage, with an expressionless face looking nowhere and a weak pose and no background. Don't forget the pale skin and the rimlight. Just because the light only hits half the face doesn't mean it's emotional.

>>2183497
Don't you think it's too early to judge over unfinished piece? The character means a lot to me and I posted it to get critique from the technical side, I don't understand why it is bad if I want to render it properly.
Also you still don't know the story behind this character.

>>2183508
I think the time to judge a piece is when it is unfinished, otherwise there won't be time to make changes to it.

And the character may mean a lot to you and have a backstory--but none of this is shown in your image. Can you somehow give a sense of who this character is and what their story is through your painting?

And there's nothing wrong with rendering, except when you focus on that to the exclusion of other things like composition and story.

>>2183238
lower body is "as Frank Frazetta", probably he like big butts.
>>2183243
good advice, i'm gonna try that.

>>2183512
>Can you somehow give a sense of who this character is and what their story is through your painting?
The first idea was to fill the background with head of trolls and make her indifferent because she already defeated and the light on half of her face is the part of the story. And there will be a hammer too.
You can't see it because it's the WORK IN PROGRESS

>>2182904
You've obviously never seen the cover of a Call of Duty game before.

>>2183467
how big is this? 3 square centimetres? If anything bigger than that, its total shit

>>2183386
sorry for spamming but I saw a few mistakes and refined it a bit more

one of my first digitals

>>2183323
it was experimentation, no biggie it was a quick shitty study, you're right it looked bad which is why I won't do it again.

I wasn't putting myself on a pedestal I was just extremely disappointed that the ref thread was totally full of pretty young girls in similar poses for 100+ posts, it's a waste. I usually love trawling ref threads for some gems but that thread is pretty pathetic.

quickies

>>2182996
mfw. no progress in two years anon

>>2183603
Cool man, channeling that Vilppu eh? Watch proportions a bit more, and especially how forms get foreshortened. I'd also plan a bit more how you place each figure on the page, so that they don't overlap in random ways. Either have them intentionally overlap in a nice way, or separate them and arrange them in a better composition.

>>2183432
looks great anon :)

>>2183603
since your obviously studying vilppu i would focus more on overlapping forms, especially in the arms and legs m8

>>2183613
Thanks. How does one go about doing that? I mean, how do you define a "nice" overlap or better composition? think of the whole as an abstract shape or something?

>>2180167
r u grimes?

>>2181555
>MermaidWIP
don't make me kek Andrew

Critique?

>>2183624
Well you can have things go behind other figures, like you don't have to draw it overlapping, you can instead have on in front of the other. Ramon Hurtado often does this in his drawings.

But if you look at your image, like, there are a few awkward points where they meet. Look at how the top three figures sort of meet all at that one point in a weird way--the head of one is up the ass of the other, the arm of the top right one is coming down into that same intersection and has been redrawn a few times os it is extra busy, and that same figure's head is tangent with the back of the top left one.

I would just try to have them overlap in more intentional looking ways rather than awkward conjoining. Or avoid overlapping altogether. I knew a guy once who would actually draw poses on different pages, and then switch between those pages when a pose would work compositionally well on a particular one. Maybe they created a cool graphic shape with another pose, or maybe they even interacted on the page somehow and he could tell a bit of a story.

>>2183637
Anon, I...

>>2183637
>>2183653
I take back what I said about the ref thread. You anon...You need that thread, GO AND FIND THAT THREAD.

And dont come back until you've fixed that horrific pose.

>>2183636
What do you mean by that? I can't tell if it is a positive or negative comment lol. Or was it just a way to say you know that I painted it?

>>2183654
Could you explain the problem more specifically? I actually used a lot of reference.

>>2183658
Actually, I see the issues. Thx...

>>2183312
do you have a tumblr or blog?

>>2183655
>MermaidWIP
>MercWIP

I'm pretty ambivalent towards the painting, i found the name funny considering.

>>2183673
Oh. Well the meme is merc_wip, which is a different naming convention than I use since that wasn't the filename I uploaded it with. I would have named it MercWIP if I did.

>>2180402
beginner thread

>>2183671
Thanks! Here: >>2182663

>>2180402
Pay more attention to where the core of the shadow is before you start shading everywhere. Also, get the 3d shapes placed right in relation to themselves or else no amount of shading will make it look less flat.

Working on this. Does her right arm look broken? If so can I get a redline? I'm not sure what to do with that arm.

todays study

>>2183806
>inb4 ayy lmao
stop doing studies and start constructing things

>>2183632
Its a portrait of grimes, yeah

>>2180167
Color variation would be nice here, looks like she is made of clay. Reds on top, yellows in middle, blues on bottom

first digital

>>2183404

yep.

depending on how you look at it
it looks like a red marble on a star platform
or a star shaped hole that you can see mars through

>>2179984
i know the legs are shit

>>2183917
heres the reference

>>2182377
Make that same stance in your drawing, and feel how awkward and off balance it is.

>>2183859
>stop drawing nice things
Jealous fag

not the artist btw

>>2183981
repainting shit has no value and hes just wasting his skill

>>2184100
he said it is 'today's study' how is he wasting skill by practicing? how is he 'repainting' something if it is a photo study? you seem to be under the assumption that painting/drawing from reference equates to lack of skill

>>2184204
this

>>2183917
good gesture anon, keep it up!
>>2183624
I would learn the insertion of muscles, so instead of just having a contour of the leg you can define how the calf muscles connect to the inner portion of the bottom of the femur and overlaps the bicep femoris/semitendinosus which connects to the top of the tibia and fibia

Any advice on the woman's body? I know the face is trash right now. I'm trying to make her riding/swiming along with the shark and I want her to look fluid and kind of effortless.

Also its on tracing paper so not the greatest photo

>>2184668
Fuk its no meant to be on its side like that

How do I fix sense of proportion , anon-kun~?

>>2182272
That is a BIGASS mountain in the back there.

Any help is appreciated

>>2183259
PLEASE fix that hair, it looks like a big chunk of clay melted on her head