/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Flat colours.

>>2174632
Fucking tumblr shit Jesus Christ.

>>2174648
hate the way this turned out but too late

>>2174688
Shit, Nilefar? Sushio just retweeted you, lol

>>2174694
Moe does not exist in the 3D form. I'll let you decide what that means.

>>2174708
haha yeah i know

>>2174688
>head caved in
>horrible lines
>horrible everything
2/10

>>2174694
facial expression is completely dead. it also looks very flat in general.

>>2174724
My expression always seems to die when I try to do things digitally beyond drafts. I wish I could fix it but I have more I need to do and its more important to get them done than actually look good unfortunately.

>>2174694
another two I was supposed to have finished by tomorrow.

>>2174748
pretty good, but use a reference for the shoes

>>2174752
Thanks I will, front facing feet are worse than hands to me.

>>2174730
no, it was fairly dead before that already.
1. she has that thousand yard stare. try to cross her eyes a little to give of the feeling that she is actually looking at something and not just looking into the far distance.

2. the iris is also very big, not leaving much room for the whites. if you're going to keep it that way, you should look for ways to decorate the iris more. try more highlights, different shapes etc. irises, don't have to be perfectly round (or round at all), the eyes don't have to have a certain shape, these are all rules that exist to be broken.
(a small tip: where the highlight is is usually also where it is dark.
that's why a completely black eye seems more alive than others. but you can use it with colored eyes as well. just surround the highlight with darks to make it pop.)

3.your lines are not clean. try to be much, MUCH more deliberate with your shapes. clarity is important.
4. kind of related to shapes: vary between thick and thin lines, this is also important. you'd be surprised to see how much of a difference it makes. the difference between the lines can make a much more clear and strong impression.
(i didn't use any thin lines here out of laziness, but you can see certain places where i reinforced lines. again, be deliberate about it. this is actually generally true when it comes to inking)

also
-i suggest leaving a little more distance towards the eyebrows, if not much more.
-look up other artists and how they do things. other artists are constantly building on top of each other as well. this is why styles are getting more and more complicated/sophisticated. the eyes are a good example. just compare to 80 anime eyes.

Background wasn't going anywhere so I just decided to give up.

>>2174771
Thank for this, I will read over it again tomorrow because I am about to go to bed. I do completely agree with the line weights though but I needed to do this quickly and the thicker the lines the faster it is too draw for me and to try to hide stuff. I did do some stuff in the iris but I might exaggerate it if I have time if I can get an extension. I also appreciate your use of Miuna.

>>2174772
"wanna know how I got these scars?"

>>2174779
Plot twist : she's actually the wolf and it's anatomically correct. (not)

>>2174775
look at the shape of the eyes you drew (i don't mean the iris this time). they are almost a complete oval shape, and the iris has the same shape. this makes it very bland. i get that some manga artists have this style, but they usually use hatching or other line techniques to spice it up.

if you are going to color it with that kind of shape, you NEED to do something to spice it up and take away the blandness. preferrably with values.

otherwise, have another miuna. look at her eyes, they have character.

>>2174786
They also are properly shaded and highlighted. The light on the cornea over that pale iris looks plain wrong on anon's pic.

>>2174786
I'll try to fix it up if I get time bit I was suppose to have completed 5 of these. I get what you're saying about the eyes not having any character, but I was supposed to have different looking attributes for each girl and so I was having the donut as a super genki type so I though over the top big round eyed would work. The eyes are the only part that is a paint over anyway so I should be able to change them easily enough.

>>2174788
yes. i should have mentioned this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_%28anatomy%29
the iris has a shape like a plate. it is concave, and the pupil is merely a hole to let the light through, so it is usually the darkest.
the shadows are thrown onto this concave plate, while the highlights are reflecting on the convex outer side of the eye, this means that the highlight is usually where the shadow is.
if we simplify this it means the same as what i said in >>2174771 about surrounding the highlights with darks.
(this is a pretty rough explanation, someone else might be able to explain it better.)

>>2174791
i'm just giving out advice for eyes in general. you don't have to follow it, just use what you deem useful.

>so I though over the top big round eyed would work
you need to seperate the ideas from the visuals. calling it "round" doesn't literally mean it has to be super round. otherwise you are just limiting yourself.
look at other artists for comparison, often you'll find that what you thought as "big round" actually had a very distinct shape all along..

Is there any room for improvement?

>>2175307
Did you do this on purpose? You had to have done this on purpose. There is no way you couldn't have done this on porpoise.

>>2175307

>>2175307
JESUS FUCK

>>2175307
She's perfect the way she was born.

>>2175307
not really

>>2175307
>>/ic/thread/2061710#p2063003

>>2175307
neck is a tad too thin
other than that, good job

>>2174632
Oh boy, a potentially amazing thread gone to shit with nothing but anime. Im sorry, OP.

>>2175348
What's your problem? Anime is another style among many. That plus the Anon is actually getting good advice.

>>2175355
He's butthurt because he couldn't spread tumblr cancer as much as he wanted.

>>2175348
what's wrong with that? anime is just another style. You can make a separate anime thread to keep it contained if it bothers you so much. where else do you think it should go?

>>2175384
Nipnongophile here. "Anime" is not a singular style and covers many movements and design philosophies spanning the last 60 or so years. I doubt many of you bakah guygin have the knowledge to have a meaningful discussion about any of it, least of all the ones posting this so-called "anime" "art". As for where it should go, where is mr jillette when you need him?

>>2175307
Best thing ive seen on /ic/ all month

>>2175307
Stop shitposting malaysiafaggot.

Here's a WIP i'm working on for my portfolio to apply to an art program. I My worries right now are on the shoulder really then anything else.

>>>2172054
I like your taste in music. Is this finished or still a wip? If I had to nitpick anything besides design inaccuracies (I assume artistic liberty?) the teardrop pendant looks like it's misshapen, and her right (our left) tit could be a bit more pronounced, it seems like it just ends at her shirt. Also I think her shoulder looks a little flat, and maybe too angular for how soft the rest of your lines are.

>>2175635
whose art this is

>>2175307
whole hearty keks

>>2175307

10/10

Go home people. Art has hit the apex of its development.

>>2175635
That looked cool until I noticed the huge bend in the sword and also the enormous size of that character's head (which actually might be on-model I don't know) . Keep working though it's really on point in a lot of ways.

>>2175638
BCEman
>>2175645
thanks anon, will work on it.

>>2175645
it looks cool at first until i realize i have no idea what the fuck is going on until you told me
Now its actually pretty shit

>>2175648
I wouldn't say that, it's a cool but flawed image in my opinion. If the character in the midground is a hobbit thing like the character in the foreground is the big head makes sense. The curvature of the blade needs to be dealt with though. Whatever this guy's working on has potential I think.

>>2175656
thanks. both characters are supposed to be kind of chibi-elves

Sargents "gandolier" study

>>2175536
Thanks! I'm glad someone recognized it.
I tried fixing up a couple of things after I posted it, so here's the slightly revised version. I don't really plan on working on this anymore but I'm grateful for the crit! I'll try and keep that sort of stuff in mind next time.

>>2175307
WHAT IS THAT THING
HOLY FUCK

>>2175662
Neat

>>2175635

saved regardless if you stole this or not.

studied off some Otto Schmidt today. I did it in colored pencil first (1) but should have done just pencil. Then I inked it (2) and made some minor adjustments in digiworld (3).

I am an idiot and just figured out that I can scan at 1200dpi - I have been scanning at 300dpi the whole time... What dpi should I be scanning at?

I think I will color it tomorrow

>>2175756
here are some Otto warmup studies - also trying some other pencil inking techniques.

I was struggling with hands all over the place. Goofed on picking the light source and the head / faces were painful as usual.

>>2175307
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>>2175708
that image is 3 years old btw

>>2174694
Do people think I should redo with this pose an attempt it with more effort. Turns out 'due today' was more of a suggestion than anything.

>>2175759
Sauce please?

>>2175787
I think I am liking this one better

>>2175821
that's clearly po-ju.

>>2175787
i know this isn't constructive at all, but i found all the drawings you posted strangely repulsive.
they appear annoying, redundant and unimaginative.
stop posting.

>>2175828
no, those are just po-ju's characters. i think it's kyle or something.

>>2175833
I'm sure you will find a way to deal with it buddy.

>>2175787
All your poses are shit and have zero depth. The arms are plastered to the sides in a way that is neither natural nor possible. The right leg does not exist in 3D space at all and the left is doing god knows what.. And please, please learn what a foot looks like. Drawing a shoe ain't shit.

You spent more time drawing that vulva than anything else and it shows.

Ok, can someone please give me proper constructive criticism? All of these trolls are not helping.

>>2175915
ayyyy

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>>2175915
That's marvelous
But what's that angular thing bown their belly ?

>>2175915
kyle pls stahp.

>>2175915
Hey kyle. How long does it take you to finish the drawing before going into color?

>All these newfags getting a reaction from Kyle's old drawings

>>2175915
Ive seen shit
But this made me say i see some shit
I can say to people who're new to /ic/ that asked me hows /ic/ and tell them i saw some shit
this is that shit

Daymn, drawing skellies is way too much fun
crit my crit yo

>>2175967
Pretty good.

>>2175828
>>2175834
Thanks.

>>2175967
>clavicles too low
>ears too high
those are probably the more important issues.
i suggest you do one from the side and the back as well. it's actually pretty hard.

>>2175759
k-kyle?

>>2175656
tried to fix the sword
>>2175744
thanks anon. this is my work... which is probably apparent when you note the subtle changes in this version.

>>2176006
your lines are neat
but i cant comprehend the hands and anatomy of the sword wielder
When i saw this i thought its a drawing of a magical girl from the back until a guy pointed out theres a sword in the scene.
I wouldnt even try to fix the anatomy since i have no fucking idea what the hell is going on with the knight guy thingy

>>2176009
i agree with >>2176006
the head is very unclear. is that a mask? are those holes for the eyes? if that is the case then the mask isn't symetrical.
that area is generally too vague.

>>2174632
Some feedback would be great, thank you!

>>2176012
yes its a mask. yes those are eye holes... yeah, the mask is slightly off. i tried to fix the symmetry of the mask on this update.
the idea is he is wearing a roundish chest plate with a sort of skirt in the front. hes a king and has antlers on his crown.

>>2176047
i was trying to do a redline, but before that: why is his head so huge?

>>2175989

>stylization

>>2176069
Looks great, I just don't like how it is cropped off at the bottom. The far wheel being all black like that too really stands out and brings unnecessary attention to it. Maybe it won't be as big a deal when you paint this out, but it is something to keep in mind.

>>2176070
even in stylization, not everything is allowed.
the ears can easily be above the eyes, but that depends on the angle.
same with the clavicle, from the front it should not look like that.

this will become a problem once you start doing different angles.
which is also why i suggested doing the other angles as well, to get a more thorough understanding for these proportions.

of course you have a point, there is some wriggle room. but i'm just giving my 2 cents.

>>2176030
Your proportions are so skewed it hurts me. The far eye is so tiny in comparison the the closer eye. The head in general is just far too big. Her left shoulder way too big. Her arms are way too tiny. Her breasts are too far up. Her neck doesn't look like it attaches to the rest of her body.
And then your color choices are just hideous. The teal thing you've got going for the body could actually be ok, but the weird puke green you've used for the intestines doesn't look good with it at all.
Also, why is your canvas so big? Why so much negative space on either side of the figure?

meh

>>2176102
you should try to change things up if you want to improve.

as always, you are very oldschool. but these styles are ages old you know?
maybe try to evolve your style? you don't have to follow trends or do it like the japanese did, but try to make progress.
unless you are fine with it now, then nevermind.

>>2176102
Something about the far left figure weirds me out. Like, her head doesn't seem to work right with her body, so it feels kind of disconnected and out of place. Maybe it's too small and at a weird angle?

>>2176148
Oops, I meant far right, not far left.

>>2176102
do you have a tumblr greydeath?

>>2174632
That nose isn't long and red enough

Shit/10

>>2176102
don't they have a porn thread?

>>2175988
>Those leaves look like shitty photoshop brushes
>Scroll down
>It's motherfucking Bouguereau
I have unhealthy and unrealistic expectations for my enviroments.

>>2176317
you must be joking.

>>2176317
Do you seriously need to look at the fucking signature to tell it's a Bouguereau?

>>2176340
>>2176342
I hadn't seen the figures yet, just the foliage on the very top.

>>2176349
>"I didn't see the focal point of the picture."

guys, he was scrollan down. Chill.

>>2176349
You do know there are trees like that in real life, right? Unless you're going to claim actual trees are 2photoshop4u.

First time posting here
what do you guys think?

>>2176458
Piece of advice:

Don't listen to the asians.

>>2176458
You can draw decently but have no idea how light or colour work. I think you can also think about the design more, they are pretty basic and uninteresting, especially on the right spider guy. Middle one is very generic, left one is kinda generic but I actually like it since it has a few interesting things going on.

>>2176485
I dont get it? Im asian myself.

>>2176494
Can you elaborate on the interesting things? Sorry if my english is bad. Heres another concept for a manga ive been planning

>>2176498
I like the way the wrist wraps extend over the fingers, it makes it a little more interesting than just having straps on the wrist. The club too is very basic, but the way the handle is carved out is a nice detail, it adds interest without getting a complex design that wouldn't fit the character.

For the new designs you just posted: left is boring and generic and shows off boobs for no reason, middle has potential but also is a little boring/generic and the metal doesn't look metal, right one feels like you are keeping the design too "safe". Like the hammer is just a hammer, the goggles look like swim goggles, the pouches are as basic as you can get, the shoes are basic etc. Think a bit more about how you can improve each of those things. What would make the pouches more interesting? Maybe the way they attach to the belt is interesting, or the way they clasp shut. The proportions of the character are also unappealing.

can someone please redline this bitch? her arm looks particularly fucked up but i cant figure out why.

>>2176630
It is her head and legs, and the extremely unnatural way she is holding the gun.

>>2176671
the head and legs do look kinda fucked up as well now that you mention it. oh and that thing is an arm cannon, its supposed to be kinda like an extension of her arm. i was actually talking about the arm on her hip

I wanted to draw something funky

>>2176718
>>2176718
i like the linework and colours a lot!
what puts me a bit off is the form of the arms (especially the upper arms) and position of the right arm in correlation with the legs.
why do the fingers disappear behind the left shoe?
also, is this done in illustrator?

>>2175941
whats Kyle's blog?

>>2176718
I feel like the shoulder/neck is a bit off but I cant pinpoint it exactly. Positioning I guess?

>>2175915

Nice bait m8.

>>2176361
what is having a slow internet connection that you have to wait for a .jpg to load little by little?

>>2175915
study the basic shapes in the sticky

>>2176780
did you heard that kyle?

What are some good animu styles to look at; besides KLK?

>>2176781
English please~

>>2175756
here is a WIP for digi painting. Still got a lot to finish - i'll try to get to it tomorrow

looking for tips on the following
> I tried to render the scythe, but it looked like shit. How to render metal?
>hair looks gross - asked months ago, but I think I just need more practice
>horn looks too smooth, how to make it more textured? Different brush?
>Should I smash the layers together? I have layers for: hair, horn, skin, scythe, bracelet things, and linework. Feel like its gonna get hard to render where the objects meet if they are on different layers
>background?

Kinda of a lewd / weird question, but do I darken the nipples?

>>2176785
>besides klk
kill yourself

>>2176812
KLK is a little over the top for me, especially if I want to become an animator. I want something to look at that'll inspire me to focus on some of my goals.

>>2176814
Pretty sure he was prompting you to end your life because you even considered klk to begin with, not because you choose to search for something other than klk.

>>2176803
>How to render metal
They've got hard darks and soft lights, normally. the reflections on metal are very apparent and the values are normally going to be very sudden in shifts. do some study time on chrome or some polished metals and it'll make sense with a little practice. everything past that is adding the texture or dimming the reflections a bit based on whatever metal you're aiming for.

>Hair
try being a little bit more solid with the hair. Also try to add some subtle gradients into it where it overlaps with the rest of the skin. the main problem is that it's just plastered on, not reflecting any ambient light. White hair like that is gonna pick up a lot of color from surroundings. You've got purple shading on the girl, but grey shading on the hair, which adds to it looking out of place on the image.

Also, I wouldn't paint it over her shoulder in the position that it is because it just makes it look like she's got it set up lopsided on her head. But maybe that's the intent, so take that with a grain of salt.

>Horn
A chalk brush or harder brush in general should help with that.

>Smash the layers
I only use one layer in the first place, so that's entirely up to your workflow. Some people use tons, some don't. It makes it easier to mix colors imo on one layer, but some programs allow you to pick up background colors, so that's entirely your preference.


>darken the nipples
If you want, you could probably just have a gradient towards them.

more arists lile these two?

http://synecdoche445.tumblr.com/

http://accio524.tumblr.com/

also why do they have the weirdest names

>>2176723

this is a meme or samefag astroturfing by him at this point

>>2176841
he was probably being a cheeky cunt.

>>2176781
Hear what

How to progress from here?

>>2176854

stop going to pol
stop being a pedo
stop trolling this board

>>2176785
Depends what you want. Something a little more realistic but still stylised? Try Berserk by Kentaro Miura.

Something a little more typical, but still detailed and well drawn? Full Metal Alchemist (the manga) by Hiromu Arakawa (which I've no doubt you've already heard of).

There's plenty others, but those are the ones that come to mind for me and the ones I mainly use for inspiration when it comes to style.

>>2176855
I dont understand?
Someone please help me, I've been reading Loomis and Vilppu starting in January 2013 and I dont feel like I'm improving much.
Can someone please tell me what Im doing wrong?

>>2176858

No longer study photo with your own personal twist.

Force your way out of the comfort zone and draw directly from reality.

Pay close attention to what works and what doesn't

and spend a day or two studying eyes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Biwd46hfNss

>>2176858
>>2176854
Stop trying to put a spin on the merc_wip it has to be either a space marine or dragons to work.

>>2176875
kronfuck is a piece of shit who cant stop drawing the same fucking expression in every single portrait and image he ever made. Hes literally a hack. He Just takes a fashion magazine or whatever photo and stylize it to his sameface. hes a complete referencebaby. Theres a special place in hell for shitters like him and people who pay him.fuck.

>>2176886
Yeah, a google search quickly shows the majority of his work consist of cute girls with big lips looking up with a cute (yet brainless) expression

Also I don't think he's done a single OC.

>>2176854
The abyss is staring back at me oh god

>>2176498
pls work on the fabric folds and shading/lighting!

>>2176886
>>2176893
>"hey /ic/, how do I get popular and become successful?"
>"Do studies, also pander a lot, use references and do lots of fanart"
>"Thanks /ic/, I followed your advice and now I make 12.000$ per month on patreon!"
>"FUCK YOU MAN, I HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT HACK."

>>2177187
kek

>>2177187
Nothing wrong there.

next skellie, crit my crit etc

>>2177187
yeah I do the same but at least I DONT DRAW THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAN

>>2177213
like i said, do sideviews.
then you'll realize that the spine isn't a straight stick.

>>2174632
This pic out of context and all those faggy quotes make this topic look really fucking gay,

>>2177187
there's really nothing wrong with that, everyone's won, guy 1 now earns $12,000 a month, they're fucking swimming in money, not a care in the world, guy 2 gets someone new to swear at, great way to vent out anger, and the guy they're venting at won't care cause they're rich as shit

>>2177268
I don't know about faggy but nobody reads the draw thread OPs anyway. No point in having so much text up there.

Suggestion to whoever makes the next thread, please edit those quotes out, keep it concise, and make the links more visible.

Hello.

Please criticize and/or redline.

>>2177332
bring in poppy's back a bit and lower her hip, she's a little lopsided.
Problem area in particular is the feet, plant them and show the weight in the gesture with them. the legs and feet look sort of tacked on to the pose. Try to get a sense of weight in your skeleton before you add the rest of the body. It's mostly gesture work you need to work on, aside from foot construction.


Otherwise, looking forward to see them yordle tats.

Playing around with some designs.

>>2177447
I like your lines. Got a tumblr?

>>2177447
Loooooove this!

I haven't been on /ic/ in years. I lost all interest in drawing due to laziness and depression but recently I had the sudden urge to draw 2hus. I forgot how fun drawing is (although I don't have a graphics tablet to digitally paint properly, haha).

Care to critique or call out the flaws in pic related? I have another picture needing criticism as well.

>>2177456
here's the other one

wip
trying to draw inspiration from pascal campion a bit

>>2177458
I really like this one.

I think you need some Loomis, though.

>>2177456
>>2177458

Work on head construction. The head is in 3/4 but one eye seems to be floating and facing directly towards the viewer. It's more obvious for the second image.

>>2177456
>>2177458
You line quality and fabrics look fantastic, but your characters look sort of stiff and dead.
Play with angles, balance, weight, curves, and expressions in your characters. Gesture drawing is a good way to practice this, or just quick sketches where you focus less on the anatomy and more on expression and movement. A dynamic character in your style would look great.
The poses don't have to be like in pic, you can make a dynamic standing pose by putting the weight on one foot, or giving the back an interesting arch, etc. etc.

>>2177509
I agree.

>>2177527
I haven't studied head construction in a while. Will get onto it, thanks.

>>2177536
Definitely thought this while sketching it out. I'm feeling motivated to improve now. Thanks.

>>2176826
thanks for the tips! Goofed around with everything - turd is now polished
>hair - iterated with hard round and softround. It still looks like a wig - next time I think I will use a single layer
>metal - this was too tough, I just used a textured brush. I owe you some chrome studies later
>kept the layers - then I noticed the file was 1GB...
>nipples - I guess i'm pretty bad at nipples... I was playing with the boob placement, then I just said fuckit the original was better.

Basically everything that was not the body doesn't really flow into the picture... ugh then the background didn't fit fit either. IDK how to make everything look contiguous - maybe using one layer would do it...

>>2177456
>I don't have a graphics tablet
jesus man, you aren't drawing with a mouse, are you

>>2175307
Thanks anon. I haven't laughed this hard in months.

anthros are fun to draw

>>2175307
i laughed so much i had an orgasm
amazing

>>2177696
last one I promise

I often find myself having problems drawing consistent, good-looking, flowy hair... any tips?
Also, i´d really appreciate if you guys pointed out any mistakes you see before moving on, thanks

>>2177756
I think you mean
>anthros are fur to draw

What animu has the best/stylized face(s)? Im trying to dip my feet into stylized drawings

>>2175307
Does the bear shit in the woods?

>>2177756
you literaly posted this months ago with the same comment i think. Are you looping ?

>>2177786
Oh you...

>>2177795

Did I? I might have posted the wrong one then, my bad.


>>2177786

Stop that anon, before you go cross the fe-line.

>>2177782

Short hair is hard to actually have wavy when it's thick like that.

But flowing hair really depends on the wind or character itself. (A character; say with no wind blowing with moving hair would have a more ominous look)

I drew an "Example". Not too accurate but enough to get a picture.

But it then depends on style.

Over all if you want nice flowing hair study human hair in the wind. or in a natural setting.
After that simple it to your liking.

>>2175307
Thank you for posting this
When i see things like this, i feel better cause i'm not nearly that bad

I don't know if I did my construction right. Does this look weird? besides it being a furry

>>2177828
yes it looks weird.

>>2177830

the furry game is hard to get into. I don't know what I did wrong

>>2177835
I've never done anthro but looking at pictures of deers I did this, not sure if it helps. I think you should be looking closer at reference, taking aspects that make it more like that animal, like deer's rounded snouts, bigger darker eyes, smaller mouths.

>>2177835
I've never done anthro but looking at pictures of deers I did this, not sure if it helps. I think you should be looking closer at reference, taking aspects that make it more like that animal, like deer's rounded snouts, bigger darker eyes, smaller mouths.

>>2177828
Find the line between the inner corners of her eye. Or the line between the highest point of the brows.
The angle of the nose, chin and front of the muzzle should be parallel to it / go to the same vanishing point.

The muzzle seems twisted as it is now.

>>2177841

Thanks man, but it's not the style that bothers me it's just the structure of the face. I think I made basic errors like perspective on some planes of the face.

Thanks for the red edit though, that's actualy pretty helpful!

>>2177845

Thank you, it was the muzzle

>>2177828
That's a deer? I guess if you go by the ears, looks some deer/dog crossbreed. (Not that I did any better until looking up refs)

Slope of the muzzle and where it connects in the relation to the eyes, the nose wrong (and fuck are they weird to draw I can't get it right either), noses on most animals are projections from the skull (not sitting on some flat surface like a sticker), and area below the nose is completely wrong.

>>2177828
not appealing. and any amount of redlining wouldnt make it any more so. if anything it needs less constuction and persepective, and more style and character. jarring and uncanny; definitely weird from an aestheic viewpoint.

>>2177862
If you go for a feminine look I think a rounded cranium works.

>>2177869

That's what I'm going for friendo

>>2177869
I can see how that'd work.

>>2177873
I noticed anthro characters in general kind of look like young versions of the animal.

>>2177875

I like using a human skull for reference and then attaching a muzzle to it. But it's a weird hybrid between the two, animal and human

>>2177704
I am

>>2178003
that's commendable. but also retarded. well, whatever suits you.

took a break from this for a couple of days to work on something else
i feel like the face is pretty dialed in but i keep repositioning the body.
i think ive got a gesture now that i like and that i can start rendering tho

ayy
someone fix my shit into order

>>2175915
Maybe you should learn how to draw.

>>2178112

>>2178094
on the same side: shoulder up/hip down, always

>>2178168
um what

>>2178169
>>2178169

>>2178184
oh thanks

>>2175307
Looks good enough to be a centaur
Good job

>>2178184
This is really cute.

>>2178184
>shoulder up/hip down, always

Stop making up stupid rules. Contrapposto is an important tool for any artist, but you still need to understand why you would want to use it. You changed the story of the pose to sexy and flirty, which wasn't the impression I got at all from the original, where it looks just like an innocent, smug child.

>>2178213
>implying you shouldn't pander to the lolicon crowd if you can

>>2178213
>>2178220
yo, im the person who drew it
i think the crit could be implemented albeit less drastically to improve the gesture but not make it look too 'flirty/sexy/whatever'
thought i will say if you removed the dress, the pose is essentially the same as anon redlined for me, just less over the top
i think a middleground can be found here

>>2178219
This. Also the entire nose should be much redder or darker and possibly bigger and uglier, like this abomination >>2174632 here. Right now it's not 100% tumblrcore as it's still kind of attractive.

>>2178213
There's no rules about pushing contraposto a lot, but there is about considering it, because shoulder and hips lines were paralel to the floor and bg, and that kills life from characters, it's not a character sheet blueline

>>2178258

Tilted hips is needed for contrapposto. Tilted shoulders, not so much. That can be much more subtle and should be if you're going for a casual idle pose.

kind of nervous to post here and just hoping i dont get blasted at but

can't figure out how to go about colouring this (i usually work into details after i have the basic colours down, so sorry it doesnt look like it makes much sense at the moment). Any suggestions?

>>2178112
>muh noses

>>2178297
Just avoid tumblr noses. I can almost see them already amidst those freckles, fat face, etc.

>>2178311
tumblr noses?

>>2178316
How's your first day on /ic/ going? Literally google it.

>>2175967
boobs arent that "wide" when in a bra.

>>2178321
no sorry, i mean i know what tumblr noses are but
i more was wondering how it is you're seeing them in the drawing
maybe if theres a way i can fix that

>>2178327
It's just a premonition. I see freckles and other omens and I interpret them. There is nothing to fix yet in that regard, and if you paint them right there will be nothing to fix either.

>>2178335
ah, thank you then! i'll definitely avoid doing that
also feeling i should practice children's faces if thats the vibes people are getting haha

>>2174775
>>2174786
The eyes reminds me of the little miss no-name doll. Try adjusting the irises to make it look like it has room.

>>2178311
why the hell does it matter anyways?

>>2178297
Liking the composition of the whole thing, Very fluid. I think vibrant colors with flat shading would do it favors.

>>2178342
Because you generally don't want your characters to look like drunken old men in classical paintings, or portraits of ill russian composers in an hospital (like pic related, he died a few days later).

>>2178349
Tumblr noses are literally a fatal disease.

>>2178349
kek

>>2178349
Thats exactly what I want my characters to look like

>>2178349
damn...

what do you feel? any crit?
no fuel to clean it today :(

>>2178389
I like it

I need some direction, here. Fuel.
Crit & suggestions as welcome, I'm trying to find the something that might compel me to actually continue working.
I recognize my 'process' of development is unorthodox.

practicing with more dynamic shapes... not too intense yet

Before I finish this are there anything that need fixing? Also how do I go about shading and coloring?(it's one of my major weak points.) feedback would also be nice.

>>2178653
are you the new mikufag

>>2178653
face and hands don't fit with the rest of the drawing

>>2178653
Head too small and too forward (check the position of the neck in the thumbnail)

Forehead too big. Nose is too strong but that's a matter of style I guess

Don't understand the position of her spine

Nice hands tho

>>2178653
From a traditional PoV, colouring/shading can be approached much the same way, wherein you start with your darkest areas & 'pull' them to create contrast, but this depends on your medium.
For digital, I imagine the quickest way would be to colour in blocks and add depth & lighting afterwards by manipulating the contrast of the original palette.

>>2178661
Yes

>>2178653
I will try to fix that then, thankyou.

>>2178653
Thanks and I will see what I can do to fix it

>>2178653
Thanks for the tip

>>2178653

Umm, actually could someone also redline this please, I'm having trouble seeing the problems and mistakes.

okay so i'm not sure if redlines are a thing, but it would be really awesome if anyone could do one to point out any errors with the anatomy/posing. personally i think the proportions in this are okay, but i need some help with the angle of the head and facial features, as well as the legs. the hand obviously needs to be fixed as well and i'd like input on that because it's been difficult to get it to look right(and this is the best i could do)

i only ever draw faces from a front, 3/4, or profile view, but never from above or below. that's why i'm not sure what to do to align the facial features with the head angle. i haven't been able to find a tutorial on this, mostly because it's hard for me to word exactly what i'm looking for. i hope this makes sense.
the thigh muscles are also going to throw me off in the final piece, i just know it. any tips for drawing thighs would be cool, particularly the muscles and from different angles.

also, messy lines are messy because it isn't the final lineart. i just colored the eyes to try and get an idea of how to position his irises. the main trouble i have with my anatomy stems from my lines being really stylized, making some features look off no matter what i do. kind of nervous about posting here cause /ic/ can be vicious, but i really want tips.

>>2178717
Read the fucking sticky

>>2178717
Why don't you try posing in front of a mirror or asking someone to be a reference?

>>2178717
stop making excuses, if you know what's wrong you know what to practice to fix it.

Read your fucking loomis dude.

>>2178717
the body proportions are pretty okay, but the anatomy is out of whack
also the legs are listing a bit to the left side of the image, which makes the pose unbalanced

if you're having trouble with the angle the face is at, you should find some refs or something

>>2178723
i did? i have a lot of art books saved and do practice often, i was just hoping to get a redline/advice from an actual person.
>>2178725
i'll try it
>>2178728
i'm not making excuses for anything, i'm just pointing out my limitations(so that any people posting a critique will know what to focus on) and i was wondering if anyone could give me specific pointers, because art books and references can only do so much.
>>2178730
thanks for the redline.

>>2178730
why would you suggest he make his pose so much more static? he's obviously supposed to be leaning over a little, which brings out a lot of character. Making him stand up straight makes it feel flat and lifeless immediately

>>2178003
stop right now. drawing on a mouse is gonna fuck your wrist up. just buy a huion h610 pro. they are cheap as fuck.

there's my eye candy, how is it? do you think it's finished?

no fucking idea of what im doing, send help

>>2179108
Sycra pls go

>>2179108
Would it be better to draw what you want to do before you paint? So you'll at least have a guideline to look at.

I couldn't think of another place to post this question but do you guys know any good resources on character design? Like making pose/expression sheets. Keeping characters consistent, etc.

i want to do something fantasy but im stumped for ideas.

>>2179108
fine

>>2178712
i tried ?!

>>2179128

find the Character Mentor ebook, it's what you seek

>>2179149
Thank you for putting in your time on redlining it.

wip again
tried to find a middle ground between the gesture of the original >>2178094 and anon's >>2178184
i didn't want her to feel too mature/sexy but wanted some of the life that anon was trying to implement
also rendering. probably going to keep the lower body simple
bg needs paintover obv
might rimlight -particularly the upper body - slightly with a lavender colour just bc it kinda feels right idk

>>2179382
also wow the jpeg compression really shitted up the img :(

>>2179149

You are degrading the value of red-lining.

Leave red-lining to artists who are in a position to help as they have an understanding way better than mediocre/beginner artists.

>>2177447
reminds me of moebius , kewl

>>2179382
why'd you change the shading on the eyes? looks a lot more lifeless now.

>>2179445
actually lookign at it the colors in general are more dull and lifeless. I don't think that was a good choice.

>>2179445
honestly, i just rendered it a bit more, but i can revert it (i know sometimes rendering can fuck with the liveliness of the drawing) - which part in particular, though? the shading in the eye socket or the iris/whites?

>>2179448
hm, they did, and its odd, because i swear to god i didn't change much of the painting on areas of the face that looked liek they changed... :/
there might be and adjustment layer or something that got fucked up (theres a shit ton of layers on this one)
worst case scenario its really not that hard to just resaturate parts of it

>>2179450
>>2179451
here i just ran a quick colour balance over the skin layers

>>2179452
It's impressive but the style really reminds me of that Angela Anaconda tv show
God I hated that show.

>>2179462
I actually liked it. I'm surprised a lot of people hated it (I mean, outside of that stupid intro in the Digimon movie)

help me improve in general, crit anything.

>>2179582
Your anatomy looks kinda wonky in the neck/shoulder area. Like what you're doing with the lineart though, it looks neat.

>>2179582
i realy like her outfit. Did you come up with it on your own ?

>>2175826
>>2175787
your art is pretty cute, anon : )

>>2176102
Greydeath doing dirty pair : D

>>2176854
lol Mikufag is drawing mike : 3

>>2178163
this is super cute

>>2178297
it's looking interesting, keep adding more detail!

>>2179582
looking good man, if i were to change something it would be the shade of pink.

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lol it's nice to come back after a while and look at art c :

>>2179582
head doesn't look like it's attached to the body, lineart and colors are amazing

>>2179639
Not him but it's a standard Black Mage outfit from Final Fantasy, only 'new' things are the bra-thing and pink stripes

>>2179672
talentless hack then.

>>2179632
>>2179662
>>2179651
I did have trouble constructing the head,neck shoulder area. Now I know it's obvious to everybody.
Thanks abt the lineart.

>>2179639
>>2179672
>>2179677
t'was a /v/ request. pic related.

>>2179685
Well I could see the head attached to the body if the jacket was sort of coming off/lowered on that side, if you know what I mean. But still that would make the neck too wide on the left

>>2179694
Yeah I can see the jacket position sort of making up for it but its much of a mind stretch.

What happened was I had done the messy phase of the body sketch and thought everything looked resolved,

When I was adding the clothes I realized I hadn't fully resolved that area.but I couldn't be arsed to sort it out.

Crits teaching me not to cut corners.thnx

how fucked up are these proportions, does it look okay

>>2179712
the skull is as wide as its tall so no.

went back to army for mandatory reservice, trying to get back on track.

>>2179777
I feel like you've been working on that for ages, bro.

your backgrounds are getting better, one problem I see is that the character has a totally different color palette compared to the bg, you can reach color armony spreading colors everywhere, gonna edit it to show you in a sec

>>2179782
I only started working on it again like ~3 or so days ago. Previous few weeks were spent in army/busy at work.

>>2179784

>>2179795
>>2179784
Thanks for this... I was always under the impression that the palettes had to be different in order for the subjects in the pic to 'stand out' from one another, but this clears up alot of doubts I had

>>2179798

Not him, but the key to separation is in the value and saturation.

Whatever color palette you do choose, whether it be warm or cool, you can still get variation while keeping "harmony" by varying tints and shades.

EX:

>Pinks and yellows of skin tones
>dark sepia coloration of buildings

Both of these are radically different, but still "harmonize" because they are derived from an "orange, red-orange, red" analogous color scheme.

>>2179777
The rubble on her stomach isn't following her contours so it seems like its floating.

>>2179798
It has to have different values range, but not totally different, if you look the thumbnail you can see she's already brighter, if it already had bright contrast, more over color contrast, more over saturation contrast, it pops way too much for being too close, you gotta play with all that value ranges to work in your favor :P

>>2179806
>>2179795
>>2179805
Thanks for the input guys, I tried to make some small changes, hopefully it's better...

>>2179806
The main reason it looks like it's floating is because it doesn't cast any shadow on her.

>>2179918
you do understand you're a technically skilled artist right?

I always like to throw that in whenever I give a suggestion to people at a high level.

>>2179712
does it look ok to you?
study some faces in side view. just draw what you see, and then you'll get a feel for the correct proportions.

>>2179952
>high level
anon pls. it's not that far yet.

>>2179918
shouldnt there be more atmospherci perspective?
what is the focal point?
maybe you could make some comps beforehand
dont be afraid of referencing
be mindful of your lighting setup
i imagine sun as the main and sky as secondary? the colors you chose dont match that though
i dont know if you make a lineart before painting but try to have base colors and go from there. the values are too high in a lot of places

>>2180050
it was a top down view, so i thought that it wouldn't have that much...

the focal point is the character, which is why i gave her a brighter value compared to the rest of the BG, which was darker.

i completely didnt catch the lighting of the knee... thanks for pointing that out in your paintover. i'll try to be more mindful of the colours too.

i usually try to start with values and lineart first to lay out the piece as a whole; i probably need more experience with composting

is this a loli?

>>2180129
no, head and face too tall. more like late teens

>>2180136
GYABU~~!!!

>>2180129
>>2180141
were you always such a huge faggot? i don't remember

>>2180153
But he's out faggot.

>>2180157
our

what program do you guys use?

>>2180274
Virtual DJ

>>2180430
>VirtualDJ
>not Logic Pro X

>>2177505
brush settings?

>>2178712

>>2178309
Coming along, nice

is this a zombified loli?

Critiques would be appreciated, having trouble progressing.

>>2178653
I spent some time tweaking the image a bit and finished off with coloring it. What are some areas that would need to be worked on? Would love to know so I could better myself.

>>2180463
wish I could have seen it earlier.

>>2178389
>>2178954
underrated post. I really like it anon.

I just randomly felt like drawing some jsr fanart

Help, I feel like going for accuracy is completely stagnating me and it's getting frustrating to draw at all.

>>2180623
Do you at least have a lot of resources or material to study from? Anything relevant towards your studies? Have you read the sticky?

>>2180640
Yeah, I've been studying and whatnot, but I think I've just burnt out. I've more or less gotten into playing it extremely safe with shit and I want to experiment but I cant fucking do it without nagging myself about "ah, that's wrong, need to fix it" until the whole shit is boring and stiff and safe and nothing like the original idea. I've tried doing stuff completely different than the usual subjects with mixed results.

>>2180554
no gray or black on values, there's only variation in hue and brightnes, it's a ugly color palette

quit that rendering, colorblocks are already bad and you could improve those easily, think about color theory and don't use the same green on her robes, or a blue-green dress on her, while u got there yellow things around

mouth and noise are weird, chin is also, underboob line should not exist on that position, light source is not coherent in her face

there's not enough cast shadows and where there're they're too short, draw the direction of the light and work from it

>>2180611
>wish I could have seen it earlier.
are you afraid of repeating?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqh1MRWZjms

>>2179918
as the other annon said about light set up, now to nail it you need to clarify your main light with directional lines which you have to cut these to the forms and 3d shapes of your drawing to locate where shadows start (the girl needs minor fix as that annon pointed on his small value thumbnail), but background needs a lot, a lot of buildings have his light inverted, take care of it and you'll make wonders of improvement

>>2180714
Thanks heaps, will definitely try and work a better color palette and define the light source and shadows better.

Would like to know if you think this design is appealing, it's pretty inspired by psychonauts

>>2180784
I think if the ears were just a touch smaller, it would all fit a lot better. She's cute in the creepy way you were going, definitely.

>>2180790
earsize doesnt matter, it's wrong because of position
>>2180784

solution: even doing that style, use a fucking reference so you dont mess it
you want it to look appealing? then construct the form, if it's flat it wont be cute, there are only straight lines on the face

to copy paste faces for expresions is a must no, don't be vague

>>2180798
Okay, just for clarity, what you are saying is that the basic forms are lacking and therefore it looks flat? If so then I'll redraw her being more careful about the construction.

Also, no more copy pasting for expressions, I don't usually do it anyway, pic related.

>>2180807
That looks better. Why did you go all JUST with this one
>>2180784

>>2180717
>nig nogs
>mudslimes

this is the future you choose.

>>2180717
Well... Yeah pretty much but I'm more concerned that it will get in the way of practice and study, also thanks for the video I actually learned something more today.

>tfw capomantone favorites a piece of your art pic related
>tfw you realise he has been following you for god knows how long now and seen every post you made on da
Feels good.

I know some of you don't like the guy but I personally am a huge fan of his style.

>>2180807
Done, hopefully it's better now

new thread for the kids
>>2181145
>>2181145
>>2181145

>>2177448
>>2177453
>>2179418
thanks :^) my tumblr is grachh.tumblr.com/tagged/art

>>2180992
>capomantone
Who?