/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2173423
I have a cintiq 13 hd. I suggest you just stick with a regular tablet.

>>2173429
why exactly?

The advantage of drawing on the screen seems like a pretty big leap compared to a normal tablet.

>>2173423
They don't lag at all for me, portability was a pretty useful feature but you'll draw like shit if you're not sitting comfortably upright.

Also you'll spend most of your time rescuing it from animals and chicks who just sit on your bed.

Tl;dr: It's a cute toy.

>>2173432
drawing on a cintiq is easy, but so is drawing on a regular tablet once you get used to it. And with the 13hd the colors are slightly off. if you need to get a cintiq get the 24hd because it has color calibration built in.

>>2173435
>>2173436
Seems like you guys think of it more as a toy.

It always seemed to be a professional tool to me, a step away from just pen and paper.

>>2173423
I'm using a cintiq 13HD right now, I've had it for about a year.

There is no lag, and if I ever do get lag it's because there isn't enough ram or something. As in it would happen on a regular tablet and isn't because of the cintiq.

The only problem I have with it is that the connections are pretty loose and come out a lot.

>>2173443
It's a toy.

One advantage of tablets for me was not blocking my own line of sight with my wrist while drawing (i actually learned to draw counter clockwise traditionally just to get past this) which is lost with the cintiq.

The people in this thread who say stick with a normal tablet probably digitally paint the majority of their artwork.

If you're an animator or draw line art majority of the time a cintiq is worth it.

The lack of self awareness in this thread is appalling.

>>2173469
I thought it was normal to draw counter clockwise.

I'm thinking about getting a 27HD someday, but I'd want a small keyboard too because keyboard shortcuts are part of the experience for me; a remote with what...eight buttons(?) won't cut it.

>>2173561
>want a small keyboard too because keyboard shortcuts are part of the experience for me; a remote with what... eight buttons(?) won't cut it.

uhhh the 27hd is not a computer anon... it's just a second display. so you will kind of already have a keyboard since it will be functioning as a secondary display for your computer.

>>2173482
>If you're an animator or draw line art majority of the time a cintiq is worth it.

Animators usually draw that shit on real paper really fast and scan and ink it. With a tablet of course.

>>2173570
Are you an idiot? No animators use paper in the digital age. And you're guaranteed to have worse lineart/inking if you use a regular tablet over a cintiq.

And what about heat? Is it comfortable?

>>2173574
anime studios do

Some dude draws the frames then gives it to an inker.

>>2173423
>13HD or the Companion
Literally the worst ones. Even huion is better.

>>2173577
NO a lot of reviews say no heat and it gets really hot on your lap. Not enough to burn like some laptops get but you'll be taking it off your lap for sure. The stand on the 13hd is shit s well

>>2173585
>preorder cancelled

>>2173578
I refuse to believe they do that in this day and age.

>>2173578
What?
>draw key frames
>have other animators draw the in-between frames
>get those frames scanned and colored by digital team
Pretty sure that's how it goes down normally.

>>2173593
>>2173578
Truth. Also beyond the actual animation you also have to consider storyboarding, conceptual sketchs for visual development, thumbnailing for keyshots, etc, nothing will ever replace traditional pen/pencil sketching in certain areas. Also it's always a matter of preference.

>>2173423
Why are tablet threads allowed when the /ic/ rules specifies that they belong on >>>/g/ ??

I've had a bamboo, intuos 5, cintiq 13HD and am now working on my cintiq 27QHD.

If you have loads of money buy a cintiq but try and stay away from the 13HD because the color's ain't that good.
Otherwise buy a intuos, I still use it together with my 27 QHD for line work from time to time.

>>2173607
Most boards aren't done on paper anymore fyi.

kek, always the noobs that buy into the cintiq hype. I suggest you try it before you buy it.

>>2173614

Because these rules are obviously outdated you fucking dinosaur

>>2173585
Fuck you. The stand works perfectly for me. The cintiq itself gets a bit hot in the lower right corner when using it for an extended time. I think the 13hd is really worth it. Especially help with brush work, line art and animation.

waste of money

>>2173585
Not true. Mine never gets hot, maybe slightly warm to the touch after hours of use.

Another thing that slightly annoys me I just remembered is the slight buzzing you can hear when it's on. It's a very quiet high pitched buzz, you can't hear it if there is background noise or you're listening to music but if you're in a silent room it can get quite irritating after a while, like a little mosquito that starts and stops. Not sure if this is common, maybe I have a faulty one.

>>2173614
Because Hide Tablet threads, they're full of bots. and faggots

I am completely broke and I fucking hate my current knockoff tablet. Is used (everything working fine) 12WX cintiq for $250 a good money investment or not? My only alternative is either one of those bigger huions or 13HD combined with 2 months of nothing but cheap noodles for food.

>>2173423
I hear the companions suck and keep breaking.

>>2173752
I'm interested as well. specifically curious about how the old cintiqs measure up to the new ones.

>>2173423
http://www.amazon.com/GT-190-Inches-Digital-Tablet-Monitor/dp/B00LA0NONE

you're welcome

>>2173423
Ive 22HD. Once you ascend to cintiq masterrace you cant go back to a regular tablet, its a huge leap.

I didnt notice any lag or heating issues, it gets as hot as a normal display.

>>2173606
This is either b8 or you are literally a dumb bum

Even animators like John K or Sylvain Chomet, who always make a point to say they animate in pencil, ink and paint their frames on toon boom and tvpaint respectively

I'd buy one but the canadian dollar is so incredibly shitty right now

>>2173423
in my opinion you shouldn't buy expensive stuff unless you can afford it without problems
an intuos tablet can be very good in the meantime

>>2173865
I agree about being able to afford it, but wouldn't it pay off more to not bother developing the reflexes and coordination for a normal tablet when you intend to go cintiq anyways?

>>2173873
the time spend on a normal tablet isn't wasted
it doesn't take too much to get used and you can do great stuff, plus you're already practicing digital drawing, the only difference is that you're not looking at your hands
most people with a cintiq got it with the money they earned working on their bamboo/intuos

>>2173865
Some people can't use normal tablets. Same for people who can't use M sized tablets.

I have some money saved from 18th birthday, I'm seriously considering buying a 27HD, it just looks soo nice. Got Intuos 4m now, all cool but small as fuck

>>2173912
>money saved from 18th birthday
>buying a 27HD
Rich kids should die

>>2173912

Fucking Christ how much did you get for your birthday?

>>2173916
thanks
>>2173918
that would be about 12k to usd, but it's been almost 2 years and I haven't spend any of this. I'm not rich that's the money I inherited from my late father, but I get by as I am.

>>2173834
I'm talking about anime studios.

How to decide if you should buy a cintiq:

1. You will be able to earn back the money through drawing, it's an investment, not something you in any way absolutely NEED. An intuos is almost better than a cintic anyway.

2. You earn enough money that you already have a house, car, and family savings and can buy it for what it really is, rice equipment. You buy products from razer, beats by dre, apple etc all the time because you think you like the aesthetic no matter the price.

>>2173965
Also, I don't see how what you listed is any different from mine. Like I said, they draw all the frames with paper then scan them to get colored digitally.

i have a ugee tablet for 50$

its cool but i agree if youre not already kinda making money off drawing, the cintiq wont magically make that start happening

>>2173967
fuck all that noise, here's how you decide.

0. Your boss buys everyone a cintiq to look impressive when clients walk through.

This is the only reason to ever own a cintiq you didn't steal.

>>2173663
>if it works for me it must not be bad

There's reviews on amazon mentioning what a shitty stand it is. Many of them.
>>2173743
>slightly warm to the touch after hours of use
It gets hot. It's sitting on your lap and it gets hot like a plate of food, only the plate is gone/cooled after a few minutes and the cintiq needs to be used for hours on end.

The 13HD dicksucking needs to stop. its literally the worst cintiq you can get and the most money you can spend. I didnt even mention that satan designed the cord system yet.

>>2173423
I just want to get the companion cintiq. I wait a lot so it looks to be promising. might take a loan out for it.

>>2174106
That shit is too new. Wait for round 3 and 4. By then the shit will have been through the rounds in the industry and it'll be discounted/discontinued.

>>2174109
Actually to be honest, I'm of the opinion that a large Windows tablet or even an iOS tablet (especially if you own a Mac) is better buy right now than a Cintiq Companion.

>>2174106
Are we talking the first or second gen companion? Have you done your research on what common problems users are reporting about each?

>might take a loan out for it.
Just save up instead. It will cost you a lot less if you don't have to pay interest on your purchase.

If you need a portable screen drawing solution, there are cheaper alternatives. You could always get a Lenovo X-series tablet, a Fujitsu Lifebook or an HP elitebook used on ebay for not much at all. Do your research on processors and whatnot. IIRC the Surface Pro 2 is also good - I hear the Pro 3 is N-Trig instead of Wacom, and there are some jitter issues if you draw lines very slowly.

If you need a non-portable screen drawing solution, and you were looking towards the companion 2, then you're better off building a desktop and buying a 13HD. You'll get more power and longevity, and you'll probably save a few hundred as well.

>>2173912
get the 22hd instead.

the 27hd is unecessarily huge and the stand is clunky as shit.

>>2174118
Yeah actually, for anyone thinking about getting a big ass Cintiq, consider how much space that shit takes up. Most in-home desk solutions can't really accommodate a full size Cintiq. So just remember that. Look up the dimensions of the model you want, and measure out your work area.

>>2174102
Yours might be broken. If shouldn't get hot. Mine never does

>>2173752
>>2173777

I'd definitely do the 12WX if you're broke.
I haven't owned a 13HD, but I've used a 24HD or whatever at school and they're great, but I don't think you need to have the most recent/biggest model. The 12WX is just as good IMO, but it might have some very slight imperfections as far as resolution and color - none of which couldn't be fixed by checking your image on your main monitor.

The only thing that sucks for me about the 12WX is the cord system - its a total mess and its pretty cumbersome. So that really screws with portability, but if all your cords are stationary, it doesn't really matter. But other than that, I really like it. I really like the control pad/touch scroll thing(as opposed to the newer ring-shaped control pads, which I was not a fan of), and the size is good enough for me as well.

I was in your situation pretty much, just graduated and no dough really, so I'm working with a used 12WX and I love it. One of my favorite purchases I've ever made. I'm thinking about maybe upgrading once I'm doing better financially, but for now, this thing absolutely does the job. And I got mine for like $400, if you're finding something that looks legit for $250, that sounds like a no-brainer to me.

I skipped the knockoffs myself, so I don't know how that compares. I've heard they can really suck though, like the surface can be more like glass, so the pen kindof catches on the surface, whereas the cintiq surface is made more to emulate paper, so it's a lot smoother when you draw. Idk if that's accurate though.

But yeah, you should definitely do it.

the Cintiq 12WX has terrible colors that don't match any other monitor in existence (kind of important when you're creating digital art) and the sensitivity drops out every 8 strokes it is not something I recommend in the slightest do not listen to this sneaky jew bastard >>2174240

>>2174244
So you're recommending they get one of the newer cintiqs and live on ramen for 2 months, or you're recommending a knockoff?

I have noticed the colors are THAT off, I don't think they're always right, but when you're on a budget you can surely afford to check it on your other monitor every now and then.

I guess that depends on what kind of art you're doing though, I mostly just do drawn animation and sketching in photoshop, not much that's super color-heavy that isn't easy to double-check.

But maybe if you're doing more digital painting or palette work or whatever, that could be an issue to you. Again though, I didn't think it was that off.

If you're recommending knockoffs, to be fair I really don't know if they're any better or worse. I hear a lot of people singing their praises, but I don't trust em. Mostly due to what I've heard about the surface consistency that I mentioned before, plus having to keep buying AAA batteries to put in your pen.

>>2174258
>I have noticed the colors are THAT off
shit
*haven't noticed

>>2174258
I'm not recommending either. The Cintiq 12WX was terrible and the colors are very off. Flesh tones on the Cintiq will look piss yellow on your other monitor; you see blue on your cintiq? That shit's going to be royal purple to everyone else on the planet. The sensitivity dropping is infuriating as well and is not an uncommon problem. I have a 12WX sitting in storage gathering dust right now where it belongs (if not in a landfill). I can't even bring myself to sell it because I feel I'd be sabotaging somebody lmao

>>2174269
Two problems.

1. This shit is only really important if you're producing shit in the industry or doing prints. There's no fucking consistency anyway. Between the computers, tablets and phones in my house alone there are noticeable gaps in color space, so don't be overly fucking concerned about consistency client side because there is none..

2. Hue and value can be fixed with zero loss, so assuming your computer's monitor isn't shit too then you can just paint it on the Cintiq then tweak it on your PC.

Long story short don't listen to this stupid fucking whiner.

>mfw all these poor fucks on /ic/

>>2173593
Believe it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEeUXPDstC8
This is from 2013, and it's KyoAni, one of the best animation studios in that industry.
Look at any behind the scenes videos of anime production from other studios and you'll see the same thing.

I have a 13HD
I suggest it if you can afford it. I like being able to see my pen make the line. Also having two monitors has been fun.

>>2174313
>This shit is only really important if you're producing shit in the industry or doing prints. There's no fucking consistency anyway.

Nah. The cintiq 12WX will stand apart from all of your other devices, you're probably just blind you fuck. No matter how you dick with the settings the wacom will always look like shit set next to anything else. It was an ill-conceived test run for their future smaller model and all the people that bought it were the unfortunate guinea pigs funding the 13HD's development. It's maybe worth the $400 to be able to do linework on a screen though.

>>2174483
so basically shirobako was real

>>2173564
I know, but my concern is a regular keyboard might be too big because the tablet itself is almost as wide as a desk.

I have used every wacom tablet made practically. From the Graphire2,3,4, intous2,3,4,5touch, to the new small intous, 12wx cintiq, 21ux, 13HD 22HD touch, and the 24HD.

The 24HD is a dream. It's perfect in every way. The 13HD has AMAZING colors and fantastic resolution. WARNING: It has the shittiest stand ever made. Seriously, it is fucking AWFUL.

The 12wx has a terrible resolution and bad colors. It also has like a million cables. The 21ux has the same problems as the 12wx. The colors are bad and the resolution is really really shitty. The 21ux also gets VERY hot.

The 22HD is fantastic, though the stand is kind meh. I turned off the touch as it was annoying. It's just as good as the 24HD if you get a swivel arm for it and attach it to your desk.

Either get the 13HD or 24HD. I haven't used the companions yet, but I really want to.

>>2173574
>And you're guaranteed to have worse lineart/inking if you use a regular tablet over a cintiq.
Not really, it only takes more time, wich in animation is not an option.

>>2173469
Though there's an option to switch to the other screen on the Cintiq like it's a normal tablet.

If I upgrade my primary monitor to a 120 or 144hz, would it cause problems when paired with my 60hz Cintiq?

>>2175416
what do you do with the old ones. Are used wacoms even worth buying?

>>2175808
no you shit head, they act as a separate monitor. it wont matter.

>>2174497
"Nah. The cintiq 12WX will stand apart from all of your other devices" - What. I never said it wouldn't. I said the opposite. It's probably as inconsistent as any monitor out there, and even if it is worse my point was that it doesn't fucking matter. You can just tweak it on your good monitor. Tweak the hue sliders, boom resolved. Takes like 3 goddamn minutes.

Not OP, but I'm a beginner and have been drawing wrong for years, so I'm hoping to start practicing from scratch with a tool that's more convenient and takes up less space than pencil and paper. I tried a shitty non-display tablet at some point, but I couldn't handle the disconnect between the screen and the drawing surface. It could have just been a piece of junk though. I've done some research but can't seem to find anything that fits what I'm looking for.

What would you guys consider a reasonable tablet size? The 13HD seems like it'd be too small while the 22HD is just a little too big; and expensive. Are there any tablets from Wacom competitors that are somewhere in that size range and similar in quality? I'm specifically looking to draw with it propped against my lap so I can easily practice each day without having to mess around with my monitor setup, so heat is an issue. Stuff like tilt sensitivity would be nice, but I'd like to keep the price below or around $1000. I'm guessing a screen protector would be a good idea too if I'm practicing every day?

Any help would be greatly appreciated, I'd really like to get back into drawing again.

>>2176620
>I'm a beginner

Buy an intuos pro, save the money you would have spent on a cintiq, spend it on beer, a new graphics card, whatever you fancy but don't buy into the cintiq hype it's absolutely not worth it, and it won't make you better at art you will get the same results from an intuos.

>>2176620
Yeah, what that guy said. Pencil and paper aren't inconvenient nor do they take up any space.

Don't waste your money.

>>2176653
>>2176626
I don't really have room for art supplies or a decent place to put drawings when I'm done, so pencil and paper are pretty inconvenient for me at least. It'd also be nice to try out drawing with digital tools rather than fumbling around with different pencils and pens and such just to draw lines differently.

I don't expect it to make me better at art, I just want to be able to pick up a tablet and start drawing on it without having to turn my head and look at my monitor every few seconds. I can't really look at both at once with my current setup. It also seems like it'd be difficult to find where your pen was on the screen when you take it off the tablet.

Not really looking for a cintiq though since they're pretty overpriced, just something similar and hopefully cheaper.

>>2177344
Do you live in a capsule hotel?

>>2177346
No, just bought too many things and need to move out soon.

>>2177374
Okay, whatever. It's just I have a stack of newsprint pads, sketchbooks, watercolor papers and various tins and boxes of pencils, brushes, conte and so on and so forth that take up maybe a one by two by three foot space. Maximum. I'd benefit from an easel filling the rest of the space I put it all just because I paint and draw standing up, but to each his own.

>>2177374
Are you a woman? Cause women are compulsive buyers who don't use logic ever.

>>2176626
Don't get an intuos. Drawing while not being able to look at your work directly is a pain in the ass, and isn't worth the trouble. Shell out the extra to get a tablet with a screen, or don't bother getting one at all.
And it's not about "making you better at art," I don't know what the hell this guy's smoking. They're fucking tools. Sure they can give you more freedom to make art in different ways, but nothing can "make you a better artist" but you.

>>2177344
Also with these guys >>2176653
>>2177346 , still not understanding how the fuck a pencil and paper are inconvenient. Just get a sketchbook and put that in your lap if you're worried about having to look at a monitor. It's possibly the most convenient way to draw that's ever been invented, and will be much better for drawing practice since you can take it anywhere. Also cheap as fuck.

>>2177397
>Shell out the extra to get a tablet with a screen, or don't bother getting one at all.
dumbest post in this thread yet

>>2177412
no u

>>2177397
Telling a beginner to get a cintiq is like telling them to get artist grade watercolors and limited run five thousand pound cold press paper made in portland. It's a thing you think will make you better, but it won't. Good is good enough and a pen tablet is good. Pen and paper is better at that point, but I won't knock an intuos as far as being a matter of individual skill over the quality of the product. It goes a long fucking way and anon clearly hasn't even used one and is only speculating on what it "may" be like.

>>2177386
No, I just hung out on /toy/ too long and unfortunately had the salary to support it. It was pretty much
>work toward an art major for years
>never get better at drawing or painting, only sculpting
>be far better at programming
>give up on art forever and use money from programming to fill the void with cool things instead

Only I got over it and want to get better in my spare time instead of wasting money on figures and games. It's sucked not being able to get any of my ideas on paper for all these years and if I don't start trying to get better now it'll probably never happen.

>>2177385
I hate to say it, but even that is more space than I currently have to put things.

>>2177397
Thank you for the input, I'll keep looking for one with a screen then. Just want to keep it below $1000 and at a decent size. I've tried using sketchbooks and paper for years, but in addition to me being bad they also felt pretty limiting and not all that much fun to draw on.

>>2177421
I don't expect it to make me better, I just want to have a wider array of tools available in a compact space. I also don't plan on quitting again so eventually I'd like to use it for more than just practice.

>>2177429
No one plans on quitting. If you have to ask if you need or can afford a cintiq, you don't. It's a thing your boss provides for you to impress olebby clients.

I also pity you if you don't even have or can't make this much space for something you allegedly want to pursue enough to spend over a grand on.

>>2177397
>Don't get an intuos. Drawing while not being able to look at your work directly is a pain in the ass, and isn't worth the trouble. Shell out the extra to get a tablet with a screen, or don't bother getting one at all


KEK you're basically admitting that you're a total noob. Fuck it, I hope anon takes your shit advice and learns the hard way.

>>2177816
Yeah fuck off. I owned an intuos for like 4 years before I ever got a cintiq. And switching from the intuos to the cintiq was like night and day. Using the intuos was like drawing blind, and I drew infinitely better on paper (which is why I recommend a sketchbook over anything), but the cintiq is like drawing on paper again.

>>2173423
Samsung 7 Series Slate is a cheaper and eway more portable version of a Cintiq. Only thing lacking is stylus angle detection.

I have a 13 hd and for that guy at the top to say to stick with a regular tablet? FUCK THAT. My speed and art improved so much after I upgraded to a cintiq. It's so much more fun and you have so much more control.

if you ever used a mouse when you first started dabbling with digital painting, remember how it felt when you moved to a tablet? Game changer. A cintiq is like that.

I use a macbook pro 15 and the 13 hd. I have 0 problems with them working together. Couldn't be happier.

I will say, my friends have the cintiq companions and from my brief use of them, I don't think they're worth it. They just feel buggy. It seems to lag a bit more as well. The companion doesn't have very good specs, which causes the stylus's performance to be inconsistent. I'm not much of a computer guy, all I can say is that it feels -inconsistent- some times the stylus has no lag, sometimes it has more. The cursor has this odd tendency to 'jump' when it gets really close to the edge of the screen and a miriad of other smaller issues. I think a lot of it has to do with windows though.

When I first got my cintiq I had recently bought a windows 8 laptop and let me tell you IT. WAS. A. NIGHTMARE. There were so so so many problems getting the cintiq to consistently do what it was supposed to do. I could rant for hours about how awful of an experience it was. It was so awful I put the 1500 dollar laptop in a box, and immediately bought a 2000 dollar macbook pro.

I could not have made a better decision. The cintiq and the macbook work beautifully together. Never had a problem. It's always snappy, responsive, screen/color calibration works and stays the way you set it, it's really easy to switch back and forth between screens with the touch of a button etc.

Plus, you get a serious bonus being able to have two screens. With the companion, you're stuck with one tiny monitor.

Also it's very important to say, if you want to draw anything you NEED a cintiq. Painting is a bit of a different story, drawing is just not going to work in the long run on a traditional tablet.

Ordered 13HD and will report how it is when i get it. If it will be anything like samsung galaxy i will return it...

>>2173423
just set up your drawing room with an air conditioner.

>>2179410
windows 8 a shit.

You can improve tablet functionality by turning off "windows ink" in the tablet property settings though like I did.

>>2179410
what do you think of a refurbished companion hybrid?
same price as the 13hd

Bump.

>>2173423
Samsung 7 Series Slate.

Thoughts on the i3 Cintiq Companion 2?
It's the cheapest model, supposedly has less issues with battery life, fan noise, and heat.
Of course if it lags too much then it's not worth it, but if it can handle 2D painting in Manga Studio and possibly Photoshop, then I'm in.
It's also 4GB RAM but that can possibly be upgraded.
Are there ever black Friday sales for these things?

>>2185456
No, i checked it on black friday last year, none of the cintiqs had discounts on sites i checked. The knock offs did, however.

>>2179429
Alright, I got cintiq in mail today.
pros
>faster sketching

cons
>jittery lines

>>2185977
Oh and
>easier to connect lines
>can now draw like 0033
>wtf am i supposed to do with a 3rd monitor?!

>>2185977
>cons
>>jittery lines
Probably a driver issue. Did you first delete all user preferences for your old wacom tablet and uninstall+delete it from the device manager before plugging in the 13HD?

This post should really be in /g/

>>2186025
hi jon

>>2186025
How's it being supported? Is that a stand that comes with it? Also whats up with that annoying cable, flip that shit over man

>>2173752
>noodles
chickpeas and beans carry your macros, noodles won't

>>2186105
Well... no. But then I found the article
>http://www.yjstudios.com/blog/2014/05/08/how-to-fix-the-wacom-cintiq-from-shaky-jittery-wobbly-jagged-lines/
that told me to delete every tablet file and install 6.3 6-3 driver. I deleted everything i COULD (couldn't touch wacom files in System 32 and Program files, b/c they were protected by 'TrustedInstaller' service. I made sure it is disabled, but couldn't change permissions for System 32, even though i tried to follow steps from
>http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-files/windows-trusted-installer-denying-access-to-files/5203914d-9357-4b71-a4c5-a2d11d392fff

When I installed the 6.3 6-3 driver, the cursor pointer was offset and even calibrating couldn't fix it. So I went back to the newest one and everything is "ok" now.

The PS is behaving like pic attached. Something about pen pressure seems to cause jitter. 1px line is fine, could be my hand responsible for not 100% smoothness.
In MangaStudio, pen pressure is completely absent (driver not supported). Of course I have double click and windows ink disabled (even tried activating it), it doesn't work. It used to work when I installed the first time for brush size but not for density, but now it's completely gone. Haven't tried Sai yet, cause I have yet to find cracked version of it.

Overall, it's more fun to draw now. I'm not a better artist because of it, but I feel more motivated to practice now.

>>2186176
Circle fight!

>>2186120
Tim

>>2186134
The stand is crap like other reviewers have said. It hooks on the bottom to a platform (snaps) and very loosely connected to the top (couldn't snap it, i'm too afraid to break it but i tried!). I flipped the cable, thanks. But it is very short, probably b/c it was made for laptops, like it shows in the instruction manual.

>>2186179
You are a skilled opponent, not sure I can beat you!

PS: I use cloth that came with it, instead of glove. Works just fine.

omggmgGGMg
2015 and people still draw on paper?

i can't believe this.

----
Now I wonder, is it because it is hard for people to embrace new things and even tho digital options are better, it will take tons of time to do the change?
Or is it that the digital options suck atm and they desperately need to mimic what paper does? Maybe try to craft a drawing digital screen that feels like paper when you draw on it?

>>2186203
Yeah, it's not like anyone cares about trees or anything. If paper was made from human skin, how long do you think it would take for a change to happen?

>>2186176
Those are definitely still jittery. Are you using the Wacom Preferences utility to delete all user preferences as your first step? Are you also deleting the tablet from the device manager? Are you doing a restart after deleting the tablet?

Getting rid of tabletpcinput and other nonsense services is definitely a good call as the blog mentioned. I've never had to go in an delete folders to get things to work.

This may also sound weird, but sometimes you can try out a driver, then repeat the delete process and reinstall the exact same driver but the jitter is randomly gone. That's my experience at least, lots of trial and error.

It might be worth it to research windows 10 in case it performs better with tablets.

Worst case scenario is do a clean install of your OS, get all of your drivers in place, install photoshop, then get your tablet up and running. Assuming it works flawlessly, make a system recovery point so that you can always revert back to a working state if something goes wrong down the line.

>>2186277
>Are you using the Wacom Preferences utility to delete all user preferences as your first step?
No, didn't know about that, but when I reinstalled, all my preferences were reset.
>Are you also deleting the tablet from the device manager?
The 'Wacom Tablet' in "Human Interface Devices'? Yeah, it was gone after uninstall.
>Are you doing a restart after deleting the tablet?
Yes, been restarting a lot.

Win10 is not the option. The whole thing is a fucking spyware/trackware.

I guess I will make a clean reinstall eventually.

anyone know how to clean the pen? Sometiems it get greasy and I dont really wanna run it under water

>>2186481
Nigga wash your hands tbh smh

>>2186482
i do bitch, sometimes it's just residue

>>2173482

I noticed with my Cintiq 12WX, before it went completely bat shit anyway, making lines was a bit more intuitive for me at the time I'd used it. However a lot of that may have been the fact that I'm miserable at drawing to begin with and was certainly unpracticed with whatever gadget I was using beforehand (I think a Wacom Intuos 3 Medium).

You're right though, anything that increases your speed and accuracy making lines even if it's only a marginal amount is something that's absolutely invaluable for animators-but perhaps less necessary for painters whom spend far more time concerning themselves with blocking in colors and so on than lines specifically, which a lot of the time are scanned in from traditional pencil/ink drawings which is much more cost effective.

There's also a matter of whether or not you can draw worth a damn to begin with. If not, why buy a Cintiq now when, by the time you'll actually be able to use it to the fullest the one you have will likely be outclassed by a newer product? If you can't draw very well yet anyway you should bust out the pencils and office paper until you fix that, at least somewhat. By the time you're "ready" you will be able to get the model of Cintiq you want now used for far less than you otherwise would, or you'll have a new model available at a similar price that makes the old one look like crap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNcNQKphke0

>>2186572
>why buy a Cintiq now when, by the time you'll actually be able to use it to the fullest the one you have will likely be outclassed by a newer product?

Because Cintiqs are great right now, and there's no reason not to learn how to draw digitally.

>>2186612
Well for example why not just save your money for the doubtless soon to be announced Companion 3? Can't you just see yourself chilling in your front yard sippin' purple drank and watching fly ass honeys bouncin' by while you're just going to town on that shit like a real nigga?

>>2186633
>doubtless soon

kek

Nah, I don't use tablets. I only do real art.

>>2186742
niceme.me

>>2186481
Same way you clean the screen: with a clean microfiber cloth. If there's a TON of residue, you can use a spray bottle to put a tiny bit of water on the cloth before using it on the screen or pen.

If it's residue on the body of the pen and a microfiber cloth doesn't work, use a paper towel with a tiny bit of rubbing alcohol applied to it. Don't ever drench or submerge any electronic.

>>2186200
Get a pair of cheap cotton gloves from a gas station or small convenience store for like $5 and cut out the fingers except the ring and pinky finger fam

>>2187280
Nah, don't want to bother wearing sweaty glove all the time or put it on/off all the time.

I want to return this shit, but they haven't charged my credit card yet for some reason (it's been a week) and I'm afraid they might do it after warranty expires. Or did they forget?

>>2187571
I understand not wanting to wear a glove but I feel like it's preferable to needing to mess with a cloth. Do you kind of hold it in your palm and drape it over part of your hand or what? Gravity is a hell of a drug.

You want to return it? Looking to get a larger model or was this your plan to begin with?

>>2187573
I don't hold cloth in palm, I just drag my hand across the screen and it's inbetween. I naturally just rest my hand on screen and it pushes cloth against it so it doesn't fall.

I want to return because none of of drivers work. 6.3 6-3 is actually jitter free, but the pointer refuses to calibrate to screen.
Actually, the MAIN reason I want to return it is I don't have time to mess around with it. I've got a job and uni starts this Fall, I work out too. I can't just sit and draw all day. If you're a NEET, this is great, but for someone like me it's too expensive to use only sometimes. Especially since it doesn't offer such a great advantage as I initially thought.

Jesus christ, did I really get it for free?

>>2187589
Keep watching your bank account and invoices. If you did get it for free somehow though, good on ya.

>>2179410
This is funny because I have an intuos and it works like a fucking NIGHTMARE on Mac but perfectly on windows.

I wish I had the money for a cintiq

Soo no opinions on the surface pro 3? It seems like the best option for me since i'm gonna be outside a lot and it seems to handle maya and other heavy softwares. The fact that it may come with windows 8 isn't a problem since i can get stardock8, havent tried windows 10..

has anyone used the i3 Companion 2?
Is it powerful enough for 2d painting?
Does it have better battery life and less fan noise than the i5/i7 models?

I recently got a cintiq 13hd as a gift and although I really like it, I think I liked my surface pro 3 more.

Being able to draw while sitting in your bed or at a coffee shop is amazing.

Also professionals work using all of them, Noah Bradley uses a surface pro.

Would the Surface Pro be good for animation? Any animators actually use it? Actually, what do animators use?

>>2187699
I got a Surface Pro 3 not long ago and so far it's worked like a charm. That said, I've never done digital stuff prior to getting this, so I couldn't tell you how it compares to other tablets.

It works perfectly fine for drawing, though.

>>2187852
I'm not >>2187699 but I am also interested in the Surface Pro 3. I've heard about jittery lines, has that been a problem for you? What software do you use? Did you upgrade to Windows 10? Are you bothered by all these questions?