/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2171971
Forgot to put Study Thread as the subject. oops.

I might as well warm up with a sketch of this.

>>2171971

why is this so strangely appealing

>>2172080
Your drawing makes me think you're 7 years old.

>>2172082

Sometimes I dream about becoming a childrens book illustrator and just drawing the goofiest things like that and developing a style people hire me for that revolves completely around sillyness. Exactly, like a 7 year old would imagine things lol. But with a tiny bit of skill and knowledge dropped in the mix. That would be so much fun.

>>2172091
a 7year old does not draw an elephant like this because he imagines it that way.
at least that's what i think.

>>2171971

>>2172080
it looks like an angel from eva

>>2172091
that's a nice dream. i like it.
>>2172096
pretty much

>>2172104

pretty cool. love the control over the values and the sublety in the temperature.

My first ever attempt at a photo study... gave myself 30 minutes. couldn't even get close :(

>>2172180

slow down, relax

>>2172180

dude it's a great start. the 'holy crap this looks like complete diarrhea it's never going to look remotely like what i want it to'-phase can easily last for hours. relax and enjoy the process. the left husk for instance shows you can do this. gogogo.

>>2172180
Don't rush, observe closer, and try to work the whole more.

>>2172180
THAT'S A GREAT START

WHAT THE FUCK

KEEP AT IT

FINISH IT

I'm not used to drawing animals. I never drew an elephant before. it's pretty fun, I'll try again later.

fun

>>2172336
did more

Focusing on forms mainly.

>>2172369
Values in face are washed out, facial features not aligned well, femur WAY too long, some things are overstated in the shadows like the reflected sky and the yellow on the ribs.

I'd slow down and try to observe more carefully.

Unfinished cause I really need to get some fuckin sleep, will probably finish tomorrow

>>2172369
Why choose such a dull picture for forms? This looks more like a color/light and brush economy study.

Just read the first chapter of Keys to Drawing.

Just finished reading the first chapter of Keys to Drawing.

Too drunk. Good lines to work with though.

>>2172408

Beginner's thread exists for a reason

>>2172418

Thanks for the critique. However, my post does belong in this thread.

>>2172369
>>2172384
>>2172403
Did this for him to see


>>2172418
>>2172418
How DARE he try to get better by doing this!

>>2172418
>>2172424

Yeah sorry, that was assholish of me

>>2172427
I forgive and love you.

>>2172424

I'm honestly confused as to what thats meant to show.

I think the main issue with it is the alignment of features, everything else very minor and hue changes are intentional. I should focus on getting the initial strokes placed more accurated and measured properly.

Was more of a warmup than a serious study.

>>2171984

>>2172408
infinitely better than anything digital itt (since digital doesnt count)

good work

>>2172453
Then you are a shitty artists and should do more studies yourself. The proportions are everything and from where I sit they are all jacked up. The artists needs to work on his eye and not whatever else it was that distracted him because that elongated leg was a careless oversight that threw the proportions of the rest of the figure off.

Sure you think it's minor and that's your right, but trying to defend what is a helpful critique because you like it does nothing but hurt that poster. Your input is irrelevant.

>>2172474
But the proportions aren't that off? It's actually rather similar with the exception of the face.

There is no defence, it was an acceptance of the previous advice and confusion as to what the poorly aligned image is meant to indicate.

>>2172302
>I never drew an elephant before
not bad for a first try

this elephants way outta my comfort zone so im taking notes on the skeletal system after 3 failed attempts

1) hourglass shape to legs, they lift their legs almost like paws
2)they have jaws, and the trunk hangs over the skull
3)ears and trunks lack bones

>>2172508
damn anon keep at it!

Does anybody have any references of people?

>>2172508
>>2172512

Thanks but i am afraid this study has totally caught me off guard (ultimately in a good way)

really need to learn to paint purely, all i know how to do is construct, need to figure out how to move from one to another

>>2172485
but it wasn't poorly aligned though. her left (back) leg perfectly align so it is not a matter of alignment. The fact that they one to one means that everything else is off.

Look at the thumb.

>>2171971
noob here and i'm trying to learn how to be less messy and i have no idea how to into light and shadow, so this is good for me

>>2172566
>i'm trying to learn how to be less messy
Don't scribble and slow down. Think about every mark you make. You're just slapping down any old line or stroke when it is somewhat close to what you want, then you put it down another 5 times and get a mess. Slow down and get it right the first time. If it is wrong either ctrl z it or paint over it and clean it up.

I got this from reddit. Any painting anons can make an attempt

I'm getting there.

>>2172577
Use a harder brush. Also be careful of oversaturating areas, pretty much every colour you have laid down is too saturated.

>>2172424
>>2172369
Post reference please?

>>2172592
Holy fuck I'm stupid it's at the top.

>>2172577
update.
>>2172579
i'll keep that in mind. I see what you were talking about.

>>2172641
literally you only put some lines in the ears

>>2172657
I actually changed the proportions and toned the color of the body down. It is a lot more accurate now, i'm sorry you can't see that.

>>2172672
Im sorry you cant see that its still too saturated

>>2172104
I came

>>2172672
I call it elephant without glasses on

>>2172674
the head maybe. But I haven't turned my attention there yet. That's how WIPs work.

>>2172677

i can dig it

>>2172080
I actually like this a lot

>>2172369

definitely a good attempt for a warm up.

don't listen to the other retards in this thread, I like the brush economy.

somethings are off but the end study still looks good despite the small proportion flaws and if accuracy wasn't your intention who gives a fuck.

>>2172612
Kek. I was like dud wat?

私はそれが「ファンティエットトラブルのドン "と呼びます

>>2172571
thanks. yeah, i have a real hard time slowing down, and i definitely make a lot of stray and indiscriminate strokes. i'll keep "get it right the first time" in mind.

>>2172726
i like this one alot.

seriously after attempt 5000 i have reverted back to symbol drawing

>>2172744
nice, keep it up!

I like this thread.

These threads are my favourite thing about /ic/.

Study time!

Draw this fuckers

guys is it normal to only have this shit after like 30-40 minutes of working?
This is like my 4th study ever and i feel like i am getting nowhere.
what is the next step?

>>2172985
Review your processes and methods
Are you squinting?
Maybe you should spend more time picking colors and blocking them in

Just keep practicing

>>2172933
Fug what a sexy ref

>>2172985
If you are new to digital and new to studies, then that is perfectly normal. It will take years before you can quickly knock out somewhat finished things in 30 or 40 minutes.

>>2172744

ill get there ugh

>>2173024

blocking in is my disdain

>>2172933

From the thumbnail I could swear it was a dude.

>>2172933

I tried it.

>>2172508
just draw the fucking elephant

Does anybody have any references of faces or more figures?

>>2172347
tbh it looked much better before tbh

>>2172933

>>2171971
I think I made his legs too long.

>>2173467

Head is too big

>>2171971
Can someone help with my form analyis?

>>2173528
it's absurd. stop doing pretentious shit like this. Same with the nigger up top who did like a full blown psedo-analysis, and still came up with a godawful drawing. You guys both need to keep your pants on and.go draw a still life

>>2173530
Lol, study doesn't mean making a photo copy.
>pretentious
It's an exercise dude it doesn't try to seem more than it is.

Like the drawings at the end of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uEtdDvK6Xo

>>2173535
I mean I'm trying to figure out what I am drawing instead of copying blobs of color. How is that bad.

>>2173528
as far as i can say it's spot on. i guess i'd study the abdomen and limbs more, if i intended to learn to constuct an elephant.

>>2173557
Ignore the asshats anon, don't even bother responding to them when they have nothing useful to say. What you are doing is fine. Keep at it.

I don't draw animals very often

or color

>>2173530
truly this is the worst post I've yet to see. Are you actually trashing this guy for trying to learn the fundamentals?

>>2172391
I love this one. Add details to the back leg and forehead?

>>2173584
>keep at it bro good work ;))))
this place has changed

>>2173598
I'm not really the person to give criticism, but your linework on the main elephant looks a bit shoddy, especially on the head. It looks more like he's made of paper mache rather than being an animal. The lower one actually seems more natural, considering you spent less attention on it.

Looks good though, good job.

>>2173598
is that a dick trunk

>>2173722
Very cute, I enjoy looking at this

>>2173766

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>>2173768

>>2173771

>>2173682
Kek are u mad cuz you got told?

>>2173774
I'm a total beginner when it comes to shading, coloring and everything. Can anyone tell me why does the shadow cast by the right arm is not solid and looks as if it's made by two or three bars standing next to each other? I honestly don't understand why it looks like that on the breast and on the right leg.

how about something thats not a female model

>>2173528
>>2173557
Ignore the dicks, you're approaching this study in a sensible way. Keep going, you're on the right track!

I've never drawn an elephant before... And this is where I once again realise I need to practice backgrounds. Holy crap.

Also, I'm practicing color combos these days so uh, yay or nay?

>>2173832
Well shit, that's huge. I meant to post this

>>2173504
no, you made the belly too small

>>2173837
You forgot to check your verticals, and horizontals. Try to use construction lines.

I really like the values

>>2172566
>>2172571
the 'scribbly lines' sketching that you're doing (gesture sketching iirc) is a legit technique that some artists use.
you should get a bit more experience b4 u experiment with that tho

>>2172714
私は「クソたわごと」それを呼び出します

>>2173797
My guess is we have two separate light sources that are close to each other, but not perfectly parallel. If that is the case, the shadow from her arm is two separate shadows: one region is an area where her arm blocks light from light source A, one is an area where her arm blocks light from light source B, and the area in the middle is where the arm blocks light from both light source A and B (hence it's darker).

I'm not 100% this is the exact reason because you can't see a similar effect on the cast shadow from the chair leg onto the floor. The effect in question is most visible near her wrist and ankles, where near the wrist the two shadows practically overlap, then as you travel further away they diverge more.

Attempted, accidentally made it a babby elephant

>>2173722
tfw you're gona close that book and the ring binding is naturally gona cause your pages to move around and those two lovely drawings will become smudged and printed against eachother

>>2173933

The sketchbook comes with a little ribbon that tightens the pages a little bit, but still you're right it would eventually smudge

I don't know much about conserving artwork and how I would go about preserving something like this. I'm guessing putting white paper in between the two images when closing but I suppose that would still get smudged.

Although they are studies so I'm not too fussed about it, but it is still something I would need to figure out

>>2173979
Hairspray works well with all kinds of coal and crayon - a bit unwieldy or sketchbook purposes though I suppose

>>2173933
>>2173979
>>2174029
Seriously anons... come on, you're kidding right? None of you have ever heard of fixative? It's super useful and relatively cheap. Costs as much as a can of spraypaint.

>>2173926
you forgot the second tusk
and thats one hardcore baby, he already got a broken tusk

>>2174036

Awesome, thanks anon

>>2172122
>>2172677
Thanks!
____

Spent longer on this one.

>>2174107
can you tell me which brushes you use?

>>2174123
For this one (and I think also the elephant from earlier) I only used the brush shown in pic related. It's from Jaime Jones's brush set.

Most if not all of the blending is done by using the eyedropper and painting lightly.

I usually get into phases where I'll stick with pretty much one universal brush that has some sort of texture, but I'll occasionally use many different brushes in a single piece if I really need the texture change.

I tried

Pen and Marker

>>2174301
woah let me resize that

>>2174315
good stuff man, did you ink over pencil or did you just go straight in with the ink?

What kind of pen did you use?

Going about studies differently this time. I think it'll be pretty helpful in the long-run.

>>2174337
Just draw the fucking elephant already. It's not that hard.

>>2174342

Good luck not learning anything :)

>>2174342
Am I supposed to have something to prove? Not sure about you but I typically like to be able to break a study apart and understand it's different elements. Sorry for being a philistine :1)

>>2172391
Love the style. Any direct name for it?

Never seen so much butthurt over people actually fucking studying in the study thread. Great job /ic/ this is a summer to remember.

>>2174349
WE WERE BORN JUST TO BELIEVEEE

>>2172817
I like this style too.

>>2174349
/ic/ only works for sharing resources. Hardly any useful advice.
>don't try to study the subject, just draw
>nitpicking every detail on a face this should be bigger this should be smaller
>don't draw ANYTHING until you master a line
>you can improve by drawing it better

>>2173575
Now if he drew the skeletal system before hand, that'd be a tad bit extreme.

>>2174141
Nice, but the reason the Elephant seems so appealing is the harsh lines.

>>2174349
I know this is 4chan and autism is through the roof, so it's possible you can't tell the difference between a joke and who is autistic, but most people here make jokes.

>>2174358
You can simplify it a lot, it is quite useful when you draw animaux.

new to the whole digital art thing, does anyone know any good sai tutorials that aren't narrated by squeaky voiced weabs?

time: 1 hour

>>2174332
Inked over pencil.
Used a faber-castell, which i would give a solid 4/10 recommendation, buy literally anything else.

I'm a tad new to this
It probably belongs in a beginner thread but :\

>>2174368
>talking shit = joke, lolz
You must be popular.

>>2174373
Never post as png, jesus christ.

>>2174392
sorry, why?

>>2174399
takes longer to load than a jpg cause pngs are usually a lot bigger than jpgs

>>2174402
Thank god for living in the first world and not some third world shithole with bandwidth caps and internets measured in kilobits like rural america.

>>2174402
gotcha, alright I'll remember that for next time.

>>2173771

Eh, there's a lot missing and stuff that needs fixing but I'm tired as fuck. Will continue tomorrow.

I often can't control the proportions when it comes to facial features. This bitch looks more caucasian than the original. Need to study more facial anatomy?

>>2174392
>>2174402
ive literally never heard about this on /ic/ till now and there are tons of pics on the draw thread that are in .png format

>>2171971
ehh I tried, messed up the proportions a little I think but its my first elephant study ever so

>>2175682

>>2175747
quick study, 20 minutes or so

>>2173889
underrated post

>>2172080
This is great, no irony.

>>2175604
if it's only a few hundred KB then it's fine

>>2174391

>>2175791

breあkdown of あn elephあnt

next study: put those elephant skills to the test
draw a realistic ganesha

>>2172933

>>2175806
quick question, why are you replacing all your A's with hiragana?
Are you autistic?

>>2175857

yes : (

>>2172104
What brushes are you using?

>>2175846
gotta keep practicing

I don't know what I'm doing

>>2175882
and another

>>2175916
Try using a bigger brush.

>>2175916
Looks awesome in the thumbnail just for the record.

>>2175956
Good tip, I'm doing that now

>>2175963
Thanks, next one I post I'll re-size to 100px or so

Fuck elephants

>>2172369
Looks great man anywhere I can follow you?

>>2175916
>>2175993
t-third time lucky?
no.

>>2176031
whoops too big

>>2176032
Fucking hell, I'm tired.

>>2174337
you are doing great anon

>>2175875
It's not the brushes, it's how you use them mate.

That being said, probably some form of the sponge, and some textured oil painting kind of brush for the back ground

>>2175875
Pretty sure I used the same single brush mentioned in this post >>2174137

Here's a 100% zoom of my messy brushwork. Next to it you can see how brush size affects the look of the brush. Again, I just happened to like that particular brush on that day - any textured brush with good coverage from Jaime, Ruan, or any of the other pro brush sets floating around will give you similar results. You can accomplish 90% of the same look with even a basic round brush if you adjust the settings to your liking.

>>2175993

yeah fuck elephants

WIP

>>2176294
I have that brush set but I cannot for the life of me find the part in the brush settings that will make that kind of dry paint brush like lines.

All I get is this stupid stamps effect.

>>2176483

Done

>>2176490
Weird, I get different results with those brushes. Open up the brushes panel when you select a brush (using your tablet, not your mouse). Do you see things like Shape Dynamics, Transfer, Color Dynamics, etc activate or deactivate depending on which brush you select? From the brush selection window, do you have it set so that it shows you the stamp shape of the brush and a preview of the stroke like in here >>2174137 ? Do your brush strokes look like the preview?

Hard to say what's going wrong, but it looks like something in your settings is preventing each custom brush from taking on it's intended properties. For the first brush (the red one), in Shape Dynamics, under Angle Jitter, the drop down should get bound to Direction, but it looks like it isn't happening.

I'm guessing those locks on the right side of the Brush properties panel (shown in pic related) might be enabled on your end, and that might be blocking your brush from adjusting those settings as the brush creator intended. If that doesn't fix it, you may have to delete all of your preferences in photoshop (make back ups or take note of everything you'd need first).

>>2176788
I'll try this, cheers!

>>2173766
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>>2173771
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>>2173774
pretty good, but these aren't elephants.

Should draw animals more..

pretty nice exercice, there's mine

>>2176517
Can I get feedback pls? I hate that my shit always looks so blurry

>>2177754
my brush pen skills are shit but this is what I saw in your thumbnail

My drawings are too cartoony for this but eh

i dont even know what the fuck im doing, im sorry for this gay mess

>>2178366
his noot noot looks like a baby flexing kek

>>2176517
>>2178324
>I hate that my shit always looks so blurry
Use a harder edged brush, and up your brush's opacity and flow. Whenever you need a hard edge, do it in as few strokes as possible. Many low opacity wobbly strokes on top of each other will give you a soft, hesitant edge; firm confident strokes will give you a hard edge if the brush settings are conducive to that.

I don't know what brush or settings you're using, but in places you're getting unnecessary artifacts (the edges of the mountains and the sand for example). Those look like too large of a brush spacing, so I'd try lowering that.

You might be a bit too concerned with capturing the texture ATM. The uniformity of the bumps in the skin between near and far parts of the elephant has a flattening effect.

If you want to retry this study (or for your next study), try using a non-textured brush for the whole thing. Maybe something that's a circle or oval as the tip shape, spacing around 10% or lower, size dynamics off, Transfer On with Opacity or Flow set to Pen Pressure. In the toolbar up top make sure opacity and flow are both at 100%. Don't lower either for any reason, and try to use as big a brush as possible throughout the whole thing. Whatever size you thing is the largest you can use for painting a specific shape, go another size larger. Get everything in place except the texture.

Focus on big shapes and big forms. Pay attention to the edges between shapes (ex: cast shadows might have a harder edge than form shadows). Once all of your big shapes are correct, with the right value, color and edges, refine down to smaller shapes while trying to maintain the relationships of the big shapes from earlier. Try to think about both form and shape as you go. Try to identify your light sources and which major planes of the elephant are lit by which source(s). The main lights in this example are the sun, the blue dome of the sky, and the upward warm bouncelight from the ground.

>>2178324
>>2178402
Oh, and another thing about blurriness:

You should be painting on a canvas much larger than what you end up posting online. When you're ready to post something, save a copy of the image. Flatten it, downsize it, duplicate the only layer that's there and put a sharpen filter over it. Lower the opacity of that sharpened layer to maybe 30% or so - whatever looks good. Better yet, at a layer mask to that sharpened layer, and brush using black or white to selectively sharpen what needs to be sharpened. The same trick can be done with a gaussian blur layer instead of a sharpen layer, and use a mask to selectively soften areas.

Those tips are really only for post processing before posting. Ideally your original file at 100, 50 or 25% zoom should already have the sharpness you want.

>>2171971
Quick bf4 bed

>>2178405
>>2178402

Wow, thanks anon <3

Starting at art school in two weeks decided to do a 4chan reference pic every day. I get off on critiques help me out

>>2178554
Lean how to focus your camera

>>2172572
i just hade her look high

>>2178867
Try it again without tracing or having the ref and drawing stacked on the same document. You have to learn how to analyze and reproduce proportions manually if you want to improve your observational drawing skills.

Focus on painting the big forms that are present, and depicting the big plane changes accurately. Your cheeks for example look like they have a hard, pinched seam whereas on the model it's a rounded form just like on everybody else's face. Don't try to paint in extraneous detail like individual eyelashes - focus on overall form.

You also need to observe more accurately, especially for forms you aren't familiar with. For example, your value usage around the nose is way off model, and you've given the lips a creepy duck smile.

I'd stick to refs with a clear, single directional light source instead of soft frontal lighting. Better yet, go grab an apple and a lamp, light it up and paint that. That will teach you how to draw 3D forms accurately and how to paint light accurately. In fact, start off with an egg or a mug so you aren't distracted by the surface patterns on the apple's skin.

>>2178366
Oh shit.. well he lifts.

>>2173889
das it mane

>>2175788
ivory*

>>2178867
have you still not figured out that there is a bridge between the nose and the brows? Its not a fucking continous line

>>2179941
says you.

>>2179995
second

third

>>2178867
>>2172572
10 minutes +/-

I tried.

>>2172574
try it yourself bitchboy, that shit is hard as fuck, so many subtle value changes and those astro colors.

>>2179426
liking this

>>2178395
jesus...

>>2178366
AYY BROO I'M YOUR TRUNK AND WE GET RIPPED TOGETHER

>>2173557 You're not getting anywhere if you keep signing your studies.

>>2180034
Another one

>>2180085
Kekeroooooo

>>2172572
Another warm-up study

>>2179564
I like it

>>2180202
Nice, not the best decision to cut off her eyebrows, and some parts are a little different, but I like how you handle brushes and color.

Any suggestions before I start to color?

>>2180283
Thanks! The eyebrow cut was an accident from the last layer of circular brushwork that I didn't notice. I'll try to be more patient and accurate with the drawing next time for a closer likeness.

>>2180348
Good, just measure a little more, with your eyes or with your pen, just compare lengths on your canvas to lengths on the reference.

I look forward to see more from you, I studied a bunch of shit today too.

>>2173699
I think that's dust.

>>2180132
Another study I did today, from a sculpture in a museum.

>>2172572
Shit, I shaved too much of her jaw off. Need to push her nose and lips down.

>>2181544
I'll leave this as is. Too bad I got rid of all her unique features.

>>2181812
Upper part is good but you fucked up on the jaw line big time, looks like a fucking disease

>>2181827
Is it the cheekbones that look fucked up? Or the actual jawline contour? I have a problem with rendering both without making them look flat, in general.

>>2181827
I think it looks normal, maybe because i am a scandi

>>2174342
Those legs though...
For some reason, the fact I had to scroll down to see the "feet" made me laugh.

>>2180132
>>2181006

Resize your shit when you post. We can't critique it like that.

>>2180202
looks really good, but it's kinda dark

>>2171971

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>>2172933
shitty paper, shitty camera, shitty pencil. thanks wacom support.

>>2179426
best in the thread

>>2184915
nice 3 head figure, I am happy people are finally including midgets in their figure drawings. how progressive!

>>2184962
dam gud trol man xDD

that's 3,5 and accurate

>>2184839
Saved. I love this, Anon. Great job.

>>2184962
Get your eyes checked.

What I could do. Shits tough, but I feel I just have to push these studies and keep going.

Starting...

Now I know why they kill elephants in Africa.

>>2185119
Same guy,

Anyone have any critiques?

>>2185211
looks a little blurred out, just add more detail looks good from a distance

>>2172572
Does anyone have any tips on painting eyes and lips? I always feel like that they don't really look nice or don't go with the rest of the painting. Or is it just a case of doing more studies?

>>2185961
>Lips
Watch your edges, specifically the contour of the lips. Because of the local color change between skin and lips, it's common to associate that transition with a line or a hard edge among artists. However, upon close inspection the transition is a fairly soft one, so try to reflect that in your painting.

>Eyes
Edges and detail. Soften edges around eyelashes, and you can even try softening most of the edges present. Gurney has a great blog post about this called "softness in eyes" - look it up. As for detail, you gain a lot by cutting back on the amount of detail you include - especially things like texture in the iris. Paint like a painter - not like a camera. Doing master studies and painting portraits from life (mirror or friends and relatives) will teach you a lot more than relying solely on photos. Photographs will capture a lot of crisp edges and excessive detail that a painter will typically choose to omit as it is extraneous.

>>2185119
Your brush strokes are faint and hesitant. Use a harder edged brush with more opacity, and be deliberate with your strokes. Focus on getting major forms to read, then define smaller forms. Clean up your marks where necessary.

>>2185990
Thank you very much anon, this is exactly what I was looking for. I'll definitely take a look at that Gurney blog post - I downloaded his book about colour and light a little while ago and whilst I haven't read through it all yet it seems very informative so far. Thanks again.

Where can I get all those PSD brushes you guys are using? I just got photoshop and am working with the defaults.

>>2187342
Just make your own, it's easy.
First make a black shape on white background, select it then go to "edit" menu and select "define brush preset".
There, you made your own custom brush tip.
Now play around with it in the brush menu and save when happy.

>>2172220
Different anon.
You're like Obi wan to my quicksketch drills. To me, this is underrated toast!

I had no idea what to do past the lines so I just fucked it all up.

>>2187935

Forgot Image

How do I study landscapes?
I've tried time and time again but I just can't do it.

>>2187942
Same way you study anything else. Focus on capturing the large forms and shapes - subdue or ignore extraneous detail.

You may find it helpful do to same landscape studies outdoors, from real life. Even trees in a backyard or a park will suffice.

>>2179426
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>>2184839
i see potential, lovin it.

I gotta do uni shit so i'm stopping here

very quick study.
>tfw stuck in portrait comfort zone and never drew animals
what a reality check.