/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

here it is without "DRAW THREAD" on top of it.
20 minute pose

>>2167383
i was screwing around on this one cause the pose was boring.

Wondering what else could spruce this composition up, of it just needs a complete re-do (more likely). The context is an abstracted war-torn land where the warlords cruelly remind those still alive who's the boss. They coat the remains of the dead in metal, and the soldiers have to feel the skulls of those who died every step of the way. The vast, collective metal surface also attracts a lot of lightning.

>>2167380
An update

>>2167380
Figuring out what I want to do with the background.

Really, really new.. would love some critique and or advice. Started out just as a pose study, but I was enjoying the piece. I left the face and hands as well as the feet rudimentary as I need practice on them individually first.
Was going for a demoness character.

>>2167393
I really love it bro. Especially the entire head. Hair, eyes, skin... I want to emulate it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmu4EURBJTI

>>2167484
>every Drawing thread we get a new guy
>Go to the "Beginner thread" >>2165189

>>2167383
Nice job. Try simplifying your lines though. Lines like that of his traps (from neck into shoulder) is this weird noodle-y kind of line with all these lumps. The same goes for his lats. Just get it down with a simple curved or straight line. And show more overlapping form. You're doing it on the arm to the left, while his arm to the right (closest to us) looks off because there is nothing telling us that the muscles of the upper arm are infront of his deltoid.

>>2167393
Sweet colors and rendering. Maybe more defined planes would make it better, and (maybe you haven't got to it yet) but make the rimlight thicker and have it vary in thickness as the cheeks are plumper than the bridge of the nose etc.

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Here's a USSR punk-rock character. 80s Soviet-Afghan war + Pussy Riot, more or less.

>>2167539
Two things:
A. It's good, and I like the colors, but it looks a bit like it could be refined a bit more with the shading. Make it a bit smoother to ad a bit more depth. But It looks good.

B. It looks like something a fat feminist tumblcunt would draw for fat acceptance and feminist power, and other gay SJW bullshit, which makes me really hate it. That's not my critique. That's my opinion.

>>2167393
That is a damn long pinky finger.

Concept for a videogame

>>2167551
another one

>>2167539
I'm fucking in love with the shapes/proportions you've got going in this, and those colors are great too. Good stuff man.

>>2167539
...

>>2167551
>>2167554
Shadows feel too heavy on both. You also went a little overboard on the bloom I think.

Are you thinking of level design too? Would these be easy to navigate? Does the placement of things make sense to walk around and through? Why are the waterfalls positioned like that and the water with the land--does this make sense to you? Ask yourself these questions and others as you work on it.

You're also choosing a weird angle. Why not just use isometric perspective?

>>2167539
I find your style to be repulsive, but that isn't to say it's a bad concept. I have to say that the strand of hair above her left eye can be read as an eyebrow, making her expression look weirder than it already is.

>>2167539
I have to agree that style is hideous. Opinion of course.

>>2167542
Thanks for the kind words! Yeah I would have liked to soften the form shadows, but the assignment called for animation-style all-around crisp shadows -__- I'm pushing it with the redness on the elbows and knees.

And thanks for the laugh. I'm not any of those things, though I tried getting across the ideals of Pussy Riot. And I was hoping she'd read more "phat" than "fat" (hence the narrow waist). And the large hands are just for visual interest and connotate to more strength.

>>2167555
Thanks.

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(7-10 minute lifedrawings with colors in Photoshop)

>>2167539

She's definitely a rebel because that's not how you hold a plectrum and the tuning pegs don't line up with the cylinders, got only 3 frets and the whammy bar isn't even connected to the bridge I can only imagine the horrible sounds that thing would make, 2/10 would not jam with.

based on an old guy i saw on the street. more or less a warm up sketch.

heres a more refined version. redline anyone?

>>2167558
>You're also choosing a weird angle. Why not just use isometric perspective?
It seems to be for a mobile game. Think Zelda of Binding of Issac

>>2167682
Hm, but those were top down views, no? If he wants people to move around within the way he painted these he can't really. Better to do isometric imo.

>>2167554
>>2167551
These look really really cool. Very Ian McConville esque.

Does anyone have any method/tips for eyes? I'm doing Hampton/Loomis stuff but the shape of the lids over the spherical surface gets me every time. Maybe I'm overthinking it.

>>2167393
Tumblr?

>>2167701
Try Bammes

>>2167701
Look at other artist like
>>2167705
Just avoid Hogarth like the plague

>>2167558
>>2167683

Artist of these concepts here. They're actually already exsisting levels from my client, he just wanted to see them put into an environment in the style I'm doing. These are merely for mood and impression of how the game would/could feel and look.
Also, we're not going for that slight perspective shift but more ortographic projection. This is really early developement so it's nothing to strict. Just playing around with the design and environment of the levels.

On the darkness of the shadows and bloom, it is my laptop screen messing with me. I can't seem to adjust it properly and it always fucks up my saturation and values. Getting a better monitor soon, though.

>>2167699
Thanks

>>2167380
been a while

>>2167776
this looks like that 4dimension game, miegakure

>>2167539
Good shit man. I like your style.

>>2167542
>>2167555
>>2167557
>>2167561
>>2167580
>>2167673
typical /ic/
someone on the higher tier of the good scale decides to give a crit, and you all shit on him.
blowing anothers candle out does not make yours shine brighter. we just end up with a darker room.

>>2167841
>caring about internet bullies

>>2167805
>miegakure

Thanks for suggesting this to me, looks really cool!
Might as well get some ideas from that

>>2167845
>anime

>>2167383
Too bogged up in surface look and separating light from shadow. Dont look at reilly stuff, or Jaime's drawings. Start with some basic form building. I was doing a bit of the same stuff like you, but it wont internalize form knowledge, its more akin to copying. Theres nothing wrong with pushing stuff graphicly - but you always do it with form in mind, even if that sounds weird.

Id lay down the shading for now, focus a lot less on making cool marks and transitions, and just how the masses and forms are put together.

:)

>>2167539
Dude I love your lines, color and values but the way you draw humans just repulses me

>>2167919

That manlet is hilarious.

>>2167380
.-.

WIP of a study in oils. Third time trying to paint in oils for real, so I'm still learning. You can probably recognise what painting I'm studying.

>>2167929
Can somebody give me critique as well?
>related pic is not my art.

>>2167930
Sorry, phone fucked up the size. Colorcorrected it too.

>>2167929
Begginer thread. Chickenscratching and general symbol drawing. We don't want to crit your doodles.

>>2167938

Ok fair enough.

>>2167922
yea, he had weirdly short and non muscular legs.
and a beer gut.

>>2167929
as another anon has stated. find the beginners thread.
you will only find hate in this thread..

>>2167947
I think he meant the manlet.

>>2167388

you again

wip
tbh not sure if this goes in stylization thread or draw thread bc the sketch was stylized but i'm referencing sargent's portraiture for rendering so...

>>2167992

this is awesome.

>>2167992
Doesn't really show much of a Sargent vibe to be honest. You can try to take more from him I think, try to learn a bit about edges and brushwork and simplification.

>>2168011
Not trying to copy him, just getting inspired by him
Frankly if you can't 'see' it, that's fine - I'm more interested in if the piece works on its own, not if it 'reads' as a derivative of Sargeant

>>2168013
*sargent
fuck me I don't know why my brain always defaults to mispelling his name

>>2168014
Right I'm not saying do a 1 for 1 study, because that's obviously not your goal. But if you are looking at him for inspiration you might as well take some things from him and apply them in your image to both learn and strengthen your own painting. Right now maybe the colours sorta are sargent-y but not really and honestly a lot of portraiture from that time period would have similar palettes. Nothing else really shows me that you are learning or taking inspiration from him.

What is your goal with this painting? It honestly just looks like a 10 minute quick sketch. Do you plan on taking it further? What do you want from it? What are you trying to show?

>>2167992
colour palette is good, rest is a bit eh.

>>2168021

>wip
would imply its not done yet
all i did was scan the sketch and lay down some colours
i rendered the face a bit and liked how it was coming along
i don't intend to get rid of the sketch bc i like the feeling of the process being part of the painting - at least for this one it feels appropriate
the cheek/nose are is probably indicative of the level i'd like to get the rest of the painting to
i intend to toy more with the edges as you've recommended
the shirt in particular begs for more edge control - it's admittedly all to crisp imo atm
i'll probably keep the silhouette crisp - particularly in the face area since that's obv the focal point

does that help?

>>2168023
>eh
can you explain how?

a study of a Richard Schmid painting

>>2167959
oh, the small man thing lol. it was a plaster cast of a figure.

>>2168056
I know people always say "brushes don't matter" but in a case like this where you are studying someone whose aesthetic and style is very reliant on fancy brushwork, you might want to try to use things other than just a round brush--your shapes are turning a little mushy and you are missing out on a lot of visual interest.

>>2168056

very tasteful so far. but you need to put in another 5 hours or so man. don't quit now.

early wip

>>2167965
i never left

>>2168083
tumblr?

some quick face studies to warm up. after months of doing I feel so rusty.

>>2168122

>>2168122
These all have some skew to them. I know you're working traditional, but maybe grab a mirror and see them in reverse. Or once you scan/photograph them like this flip the canvas in photoshop just to see it the other way and see how you unconsciously skew things so you can avoid it in the future.

>>2168127
yeah that's because I didn't construct the faces. thanks for pointing that out. I need to work more composed.

ugh

I CANT INTO SOLID FORMS

some recent studies
any crit appreciated!

>inb4 '2 beginner'

>>2168075
maybe try to push the depth with more contrast, also maybe a dynamic scene/architecture in the distant background could build interest. other than that looks good.

what are you thinking for the color scheme?

>>2168156
clean up those edges with an eraser and multple layers for overlapping bodyparts. consider outlining in black once finished with coloring

you're very close

>>2168156
use a hard brush
do not use the blur tool

made a minigun today!
Technically it's not painted, but I guess it still counts as artwork?
Anyways, crits appreciated

>>2168156
Holy shit nigga. Do you use blur tool or what? You need EDGES.

>>2168170
Accurate, and fitting of the TF2 art style in it's cartoonyness

Whatever.

>>2168150
It's cool, I think I might know who you are.

>>2168195
Tits look like they are silicons, pussy is natural birth-tier.

>no feet
>hiding hands

You can do better. Idgf if the reference was that way, it is not a sign of pro to hide hands.

Can someone post that one animu commission with all the hands and feet hidden, the bitches are sitting on beach.

>>2168205
>Can someone post that one animu commission with all the hands and feet hidden, the bitches are sitting on beach.
I want to see this, too.

>>2168195
pick better subject matter. nobody would want to hang a picture of a girl spreading her pussy in their house.

or you could post in the porn thread. up to you.

>>2168209
He's obviously just doing a study, so the purpose isn't to hang it on a wall. That being said, yeah he can choose better ref that will have more overlap into useful skills for other things.

>>2168197
thanks lol, and take a guess i'm curious

>>2168097
i have a blog: nonerandomdraw dot blogspot dot com

>>2168156

howboutnow

>>2168216
yeah. glad you see where im coming from. controversial subject matter hinders you more than helps you unless you are already uber famous and can get away with it.

Nothing above an R rating. HBO sex scenes not porn sex scenes.

So I did this thing here, based on some Ottoman cavalryman or whatever from some painting. Realized at the end that I have no idea how to paint smoke. oh well.

>>2168243
Avoid making it all a blurry, muddy mess, man. I can't even make out what any values or colors really are at this point, and use a bigger brush. And draw beforehand. You'll make it with some patience and some good reference.
How long have you been drawing for?

>>2168286
Well painted, but it's boring. What is the purpose of this? There is no story or context. The white background implies character design, but the design is very basic and uninteresting. Figure out the purpose, then figure out how to achieve that.

>>2168245
Calm down dude, it was just a black and white study from reference

>>2168286

looks fucking boss. a little low contrast for my taste but i can appreciate the tastefulness of that. something i struggle with a lot myself.

the red tunic clothe thing does look a little stiff though. in some parts the plane turns could be better. his right sleeve in particular looks cardboardish.

>>2168297
Not a good excuse.

>>2168297
really not helping your cause lol

>>2167389
Remove those shitty lines in the foreground, move the skull closer, to the right a bit, and make that the focus. Add some slight unevenness to the land, especially some small hills to the right side where the lightning is striking (perhaps it's hitting an abandoned watchtower on a hill). Make the building on the left more like ruins and junk n shit, but don't detail it too much.

>>2168307
also, that shit to the right of the skull - i dont know what it is, but get rid of it.

I find that the image in my head of what I want a picture to be hinders on my color palette selection abilities.

"naturalism" has always been my sort of thing so I just matched the colors to what I saw in references- maybe oranged or blued it up or less saturation for the environment

but now that I'm trying to get into simpler art, I'm struggling with my lack of experience in choosing simpler color palettes

I've heard things like "triangle" or "arrow" selection color palettes but I'm not quite sure how to apply them, especially in pictures where the image in my head is more "naturalistic"

>>2168301
>>2168304
Who said anyone was making excuses? Anon seemed triggered because he's scared of boobies. Is it just me or does /ic/ prioritize shitposting over actually saying anything of value?

>>2168286
Years

>>2168286
Years

>>2168286
dat color armony and brush economy, so good
about design, consider to add more content that refers to ottoman cultre/military, like, needlework, armour pieces, watter bottle, idk
>>2168299
going nicely, i dont like the stupid knife design, mind that gold decorations shouldn't looke like they're gonna make noises each step if she's looking like an assasin
mind shortening shoulder protection if you aim it to look more femenine

< updating my little sht
any hint about composition or values?

>>2168314
decided to try out a new coloring style. Should have changed the lineart color, I know you guys will have an aneurysm over black for shading. Sorry.

tl;dr what the fuck are colors

>>2168354
>forgot image

>>2168243
try and avoid just using the darker shade of your base color, thats what ends up making work look muddy
also try using a bigger brush like that anon said, and block out your colors first. only go in with the low opacity when blending. aanatomy wise, it isnt bad. the base of the skull should be bigger and maybe work on the mouth a little more. I think it could be quite cool if you spent a bit longer on it, especially the hair

just avoid the smudge tool and dont be afraid to go at it with a thick, high opacity brush. something that helped me build up confidence with coloring is making the base color something really dark, like a dark brown, then building up the highlights and different tones. sinix explains it better here: https://youtu.be/cYRJYIWrOWs?t=165

>>2168243
you need some organization:
use layers
do line art, take time on it
use hard brush to clean all edges
do digital painting in grayscale before diving to color with that problems

You can not build a house without knowing how to prepare cement

>>2168355
don't pillow shade (pic related)
don't shade with black

>>2167380
My latest. Still working on the fine details and then I'm gonna go in and put some deeper shadows in. Micron pen .005 only on this pic. Working on keeping a steady hand and thinking before I draw so there's less sketching.

>>2168344
>not an answer
>two years is years
>20 years is years

>>2168367
the fact that this style looks like pillow shading completely flew right over me, thanks.

on to the original question, though, how do I choose color pallets? Ignore my shit painting, I have a color pallet on the sketch and choosing shading for that is a little beyond me at this point

>>2168377
pick colors, not too saturated, then pick a color of the ambient you wish, add it with 20-30% opacity over other colors, there you go, now you have colors that fit

>>2168362
>>2168360
thankyou

>>2168376
well im 22, so i guess 16-18 years

this is probably a better example of my digital painting although i did this about a year ago now

>>2168369
I would really work on faces/heads in general. There's something about it that seems too cartoony, the head might be a tad too big and he seems a bit too short. Did you draw the figure first before adding in the detailing? The base of a drawing is the most important thing

There's also some parts of the linework that looks a little too chicken scratch-y. If you're purposefully trying to make it look a bit sketchy, if this wasn't your plan in the first place, I would keep going in with some blocks of darker values while also keeping some lines clean and maybe even slightly thick. Try working on line confidence and going in with bigger strokes rather than a few shaky ones. Pic related is what I have in mind kind of

>>2168381
It's not bad. I'm not the guy who questioned how long you've been drawing, but I can relate. I'm 22 as well, and I've been hard at it for about the same length of time. Everybody else's critique is exactly what I would have said, so just take their word for it and I won't rehash it further. Keep up the good work.

>>2168381
I really dig that face. Are you originally a traditional artist? Looking at that I think you have the skills to really render something, you just need to spend some more time and build up a little more confidence with your stuff.

>>2168381
>>2168386
also wanted to add that the suggestion of the hand down there is super cool

>>2168383
Yeah I am trying to do the line confidence thing by using just a pen on this pic with no pencil underneath. If I do the pencil and I draw the figure and do all that, my pictures come out okay, but I am just coming off a long period of not drawing anything (3 to 4 months) and I am just getting back into the swing of things you know? Trying not to give myself the opportunity to hate my own work and just erase it every 5 second and get pissed and go back to video games.

That being said, line confidence is a huge issue with me that I am trying to work on, and why I am particularly proud of the legs which have a lot of smoother lines. I'm not a huge fan of the head either. Plus his mouth is too big.

>>2168386
yeah, i understand what everyones saying now from my previous work where i sketched first.

some more past digital.

im going to look at starting pencil rendering though if you think thats the case

>>2168389
plus I get super motivated by Kim jung gi and how he just goes to town on a piece of paper. Makes me want to try it as well.

>>2168316
nothing wrong with boobs as long as she's not squeezing them together or some shit. you just have to be careful with vaginas. spread legs so you can see her pussy would be like drawing a guy with a hard cock. it's just in bad taste. look for poses that look natural, not staged. like i said, there's a porn thread if you want to go that route.

here's some flowers i drew

>>2168389
>>2168392
Yeah iktf about getting back into the groove of art things, honestly just doodle some really simple shit like cubes, flowers, circles, stars, whatever. Fuck around with the lines and crosshatching and see how fast you can make them while keeping them as smooth as possible. Even scribble around some lines. I do it a lot when I'm on the phone or at work and it's really helped me build up that confidence. Another thing is something you've probably heard before, using your whole arm when drawing rather than just your wrist.

Only using pen is a really good idea too. Keep on keeping on

>>2168390
pencil rendering would be a great idea, one thing you should practice with is getting those sharper edges in as you blend other things together, like pic related. It might help with your tendency to use the blur/smudge tool with working digitally. you seem to have stuff like faces and anatomy down tho

>>2168394
this is lovely

>>2168396
yeah when I am working with graphite or brush pens I can use my whole arm as opposed to just my wrist but for some reason I find it difficult with a pen. I think it's because I can't get all them angles in, and really have my way with the line thickness.

>>2168405
I also hold my pen with three fingers instead of down the center of my palm like I do when I am drawing with pencil or brush. So that's probably it haha.

>>2168394
Who cares? It's 4chan.

>>2168394
niiice pencil rendering. any tips on how to start on the road of gittin gud at it like you are? i'm not half bad with charcoal etc. but when it comes to rendering form without using smudging as a crutch i'm lost.

>>2168405
with the little fine point pens I have the same problems, you should check out brush pens. those are super fun to work with. that or just thicker markers in general, like sharpies

pic related isn't the best example as it's a pretty messy doodle but I used sharpies plus a thicker marker, notice its a lot easier to get those varying weights

>>2168409
I actually hold everything the same way, mostly comfort reasons

>>2168417
you seem to be doing really good, maybe try focusing on linework like the flower dude

if you two like combined your styling it would be perfect

>>2168419
I don't like using sharpies because when I get in the mood it seems I totally forget about swapping tools out so I'll just use the same thing for 99% of the drawing. Which I know isn't good practice, but I just think with whatever is in my hand and make do. I have brush pens I use for other pictures but I am still working on using my hand with...finesse and ease and not pressing down. I am not fond enough of my brush pen pictures to post them here yet haha

I think I added values properly at dragon to create form, damn, I'm progressing

>>2168461
Everything is almost the same value.

Push the values.

>>2168461
You are being WAY too conservative in your values use. The thumbnail doesn't read in the slightest. Most artists getting into digital painting for the first time need to push their values more, but you're in the need of a violent shove.

Unless you're going for a scene set in a really heavy fog, I guess.

>>2168475
>>2168481
thx, will push them, gotta be zooming out

Not a regular poster but figured I would share something I have been trying.
When I start painting for the day I do a painting in someone elses style.
It's a study but it loosens me up and then when I feel ballsy I introduce the pallet and some solutions from another persons painting.
Also, When you are trying to paint like someone else it takes a whole bunch of that starting pressure off which is great for getting going.

Stopped this one here because I'm trying to improve my shape language, brush strokes and how I form things with my values so time to start another.
Not a regular poster but I might reply tomorrow.

Worked on the eyed a bit and darkened somebody the lines. I also broke down and put the Grey in it

I need help with everything

>>2168505
That's actually not to bad cmpared to what people usually post.
Are you avoding stuff like faces though?

>>2168525
No I like drawing faces, but my values/lines bug the fuck out of me.

this thumb reads better, only adjusted 3 layers to make mid tone the woman, darker the dragon and brighter the sky/bg
did quick so not many changes at all, hope I dont annoy anyone

>>2168501
flipped it.

update

>>2168563
Feel like I've seen this style before but can't quite place it.

>>2168505
Is there something I'm not getting about this show/art style? Because to me it seems like something people like for the same reason "Young adult" books became popular (and replaced a lot of mandatory reading lists around the country for high school students. That's right, no more reading the great gatsby, or animal farm (too controversial), and now it's been replaced with maze runner, twilight, and the hunger games. I shit you not.)

It looks good because it's super simple, there's not a whole lot too it, nothing to read into, it's not too difficult to make and get good at (Hence why everybody loved MLP because even autistic kids were artists at that point), and people like to hold onto as much of it as they can because it makes them feel cultured when really it's just kid shit to entertain snotty little kids.

This isn't me saying I hate your art, I mean it does look good, I'm not even going to lie. This is more a rant about how much I hate modern views on literature as a whole, but I give the art world a bit more credit, however I assume I'm missing the whole 'Pizaz'

veil of veronica

good excuse to practice perspective cloth and faces

>>2168568
Sometimes simple is a lot, but I do other shit.

wtf is hair though

ref:
https://davidtuazon.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/old.png

>>2168575
did you reference any cloth or faces for this, or draw straight from imagination? there's not much perspective to speak of, and both the cloth and the face seem pretty symbolic.

>>2168377
just colour pick other shit, man

>>2168599
imagination
i see whatcha mean

Wonderful Rain
Acrylic on canvas, 40 x 30 inches

got a few hours in

>>2168565
that porn comic you read once?

worked up the gall to post

anyways, I'm pretty sure that the colours are muddy as hell, the background is flat and that there is a lack of definition, but is it decent to look at?

>>2168680
oh shit, i totally copied that other picture

HNNNG

Is there anything I should fix on this? Also are there any tips to how I could make this look more like a screenshot/cel from an anime?

>>2167380
Update.

>>2168693
Jesus, could you have posted a worse quality jpg? It's so pixelated.

Anyways, two things--watch out for tangents because your image is FILLED with them, and then also look at some screenshots of anime and see how they look different. There's a lot of different looks for anime so probably pick one and try to make it look like that.

>>2168699
Sorry about that, the preview didn't looked fucked. I'm having trouble understanding the tangets, would they be like the circled red areas? or the blue?

>>2168693
no contrast, tangents, hidden hands but colors aren't bad

>>2168703
blue

>>2168590
you should be studying other people's DRAWINGS of hair not PHOTOGRAPHS of hair. that way you can actually see how other artists handle drawing hair. stop making life so difficult for yourself.

>>2168234
You are that Kalis guy, I've seen something similar from you and I really like how you use colors. Keep up the good work

>>2168699
>>2168704
>>2168705
Thanks! I'll get to work on it soon

>>2168723

>>2168599
90% of his work is symbolic.
both spiritually and drawing wise.

>>2168563
le polishing le turn. do another one, i feel as if this one was a learning process for you. do another one but apply the tech faster.

>>2168535
feels like she is too boxed in. try extending the canvas to show more sky and a bit more to the right.
at the moment you are letting the canvas tell you how to draw. when you should be telling the canvas what to do.

>>2167701
Did you learn all this from Loomis/Hampton? I think I should really give them a try then, because altough I can draw from imagination quite well, these look way more alive

>>2168723
Hahha yeah that's me. I'm flattered, thanks

>>2168538

>>2167701
MORE CURVES LESS STRAIGHTS

you need to be drawing single hairs not sticks

>>2168314
Before you paint you need to learn to draw, and before that you need to learn how to do lines your drawing is shit and in no way "natural"

Lines Shading Colors Painting that's the order you should learn in

>>2168394
Vincent, is dat u? No sunflowers though.

>>2168778
You're welcome

>>2168942
dude work on it more it has potential

>>2167380
how cute is she?

stucked time

>>2168947
her ears can make her fly?, they look as if they have a 70 degree angle

>>2168974
what the fuck do you not understand about pushing values? the whole face seems to be one mold and the anatomy is wrong regardless of that

>>2168983
also, potato nose tbh

why even use transfer for lineart it always looks like shit

>>2168170
seems like very hard work to make a 2d copy of an already existing 3d weapon in a videogame

>>2168243
and then some advice was taken

>>2168985
>>2168983
Disregard that crit, she's an obvious noob.

>>2168996
Your point being?

>>2169022
why did you wrap that box in bacon

will start another for the moment, 95% of the time I'm doing nothing userful on it

>>2169055
Where is the light coming from? What time of the day is it?
Is that the dragon's tail or a bay?
Where are they?
Horizon line?

which one have me more "ok" design ?

>>2169078
the*

>>2169078
What is the problem?

>>2169055
I'm going to echo what other anons have been saying for a while now: Push your values. I tried a quick mock-up of that - emphasizing the girl's head. Note that I didn't take lighting into account at all, but only tried to make distinct value shapes. Compare mine with the original zoomed out, and there should be a clear difference in both punch and readability.

My advice is to take this back to the thumbnail stages. Chances are you can preserve your drawing for the most part, but you need to figure out your values and in turn your lighting. For these thumbnails, keep them about an inch or two tall on your computer screen or in your sketchbook, and stick to as few values as possible (2-5). Make them solid, sharp edged shapes with no gradients. Try out about a dozen of these, then iterate on the best ones until you have a clear plan for your big value shapes. Note that my mock-up isn't even that good because I didn't go through the whole thumbnail process to arrive at the best possible design solution - that's for you to figure out. After you have the best value thumb you can clarify the lighting, and even repeat the same process to figure out the best colors to go with your best value thumb.

You seem to be afraid to make drastic changes. Save this current version as a separate file and set it aside. Do all of your thumbnails, and once you have a plan, see what can be salvaged from your original. Don't be afraid to butcher it - nothing that's already on the canvas has intrinsic value just because you invested time painting it. If you're too hesitant to make drastic changes - especially if you didn't have a solid plan going in for every element of the painting - then chances are you'll end up with a lackluster product out of fear or laziness.

>>2169055
>>2169094
Forgot to mention:
When designing your values, you want to lead the viewer's eye to what you decide is the most important element of the piece. My edit aimed at establishing the girl's head as the primary focal point, but you might instead want to emphasize the dragon's head, or maybe something else entirely. Maybe you want multiple focal points, but even then you need a clear hierarchy.

Contrast in value, color, edges, detail, etc will guide the eye to the focal point. Let the mood you want to convey dictate your values and colors.

Also as an aside, the values on your version that you posted and your version that I posted shifted because I changed the Mode from grayscale to RGB. I noticed that your image looked different in Chrome than it did in photoshop.

>>2169088
i need a fresh eye to figure out which design looks better, they were done chronologically so if i would pick some it would only be the 5 or 6 but my opinion isn't that accurate actually

>>2169109
My bad. I meant what problem are those designs supposed to solve?
Is it just flying vehicle for one person?

>>2169118
Well yeah it's a one person flying vehicle i had a composition in mind, where there's a giant who's trying to catch the pilot in a desert

critique?

>>2169132
nice beak

>>2169132
Flip yo canvas!

>>2169141
Holy shit

Here's a Taylor Swift. Critiques / redlines?

>>2169173
whats up with her neck

>>2169173
>no cock in her mouth
0/10

>>2167936
wattsssss

>>2169177

Here's the source photo.. There's some crazy neck stuff going on

I'm really proud of this. What do you guys think ?

>>2169047
to hold all the bacon that was inside

>>2169199
nique ta mère

>>2168999
beginners thread.
find it.

>>2168942
yeah i really like this. tumblr?

>>2168947
HERE COMES CRIMSON CHIN

Just dug this out of my hard drive. Getting ready to dive in and start addressing the issues with the lighting of the guy, his back and the perspective of the grass and quality of the brush.

What do you guys see?

>>2168852

you're the ms paint guy, i really dig your style and themes

it stands out somehow

i drew this yesterday, have to read up on hands and face from loomis and the cloth is lame, lacks definition and depth but i like the idea

>>2169010
As an environmentfag, I like this

>>2168942
Looks like it is from Boxume

This is my first serious drawing attempt.
Any critique?

>>2167380
Did this yesterday. Please critique.

>>2169401
The reference I used.

[spoiler] pls no bully [spoiler]

>>2169406
DAYUMMM!!

L O N D O N
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>>2168985
>>2168983
>>2169007
>>2169278
haha thanks for the feedback

should i start painting it in colour ? c/c on comp plz

>>2169419
I drew her cuz I thought she was hot/cute tbh.

>>2169428
my first attempt was so bad but i didn't use a value sketch btw sorry i forgot to resize the one before

>>2169427
Looks nice

>>2169347
Gay.

>>2168992
because your linework is weak. Put more thought into each line, don't haphazardly squiggle.

>>2169388

That's a good disembodied mouth. GJ copying values from a photo. You can obviously handle pencils well as a medium. Now go learn how to express form with line and construct those lips with forms.

>>2169388
oh also, don't sign stuff like that. Because you're just doing studies at this point, you look pretentious as hell. There is no argument that that is anything other than a study, especially given the size. You would do well to date your studies though, it's fun to look back and see what your work was like at a certain time.

>>2169625
Thanks man

>>2169546

Thanks man that really helps.

>>2169347
Push the background even further. I feel like it's too close.

Tell me why I'm the worst artist you've ever seen.

I want to be better.

>>2169714
np.

>>2169428
may i get some cc

>>2169733

because your plague fog of death looks like cotton candy.

>>2169733
You're not horrid, but you have learning to do.Try reading Alla Prima and better comp. Fundamentals, p much.

>>2169733

Could you guys maybe give a general critics around my gallery? Would be grateful if you guys could give a spotlight on my flaws that I need to focus on

http://goddamn-oni.deviantart.com/

>>2169773
AT least post one here.

>>2169774
Thx yeah I forgot to save a picture to upload
(On my phone)

So I'm doing this mongol-inspired lancer dude. Goddamn, I spent a long time wondering why it looked like shit, and it just turns out I was just lazy with the values. Most of that is fixed now, so I can focus on fixing drawing mistakes and actually designing something for once. Trying to keep this >>2168295
in mind.

>>2169773
Your studies are halfhearted and sloppy, and the drawing part of your paintings tend to be rushed. That's what it looks like to me, at least. You can render just fine, and the values in the "dawn" painting tend to be pretty good. Just be a little more careful with your approach and also: stop noodling away at shit too much. Just repaint it instead -- with reference if you feel like giving up.

>>2169806

your other one was pretty cool but this one doesn't come close.

Hey so any glaring mistakes as far as anatomy/perspective before I continue?

From imagination, so I'm expecting theres some wonky-ness

>>2169807
Yeah, it's pretty dumb so far. I dunno, I have more time tomorrow to figure out how to make it better.

>>2167380

>>2169806
Glad you are trying to keep my earlier comment in mind, though I think this one still falls very short of the mark design-wise. Painting-wise I like this one more, I think your painting skills are excellent. But the design is disappointing.

Try thinking of function more. What would his lance be for? Battle? Jousting tourney stuff? Would it be on horseback? Because then he'd need a longer lance, different armor etc. Would he maybe need a shield? How is he protected? Will he have layers of thick cloth? Chainmail? Plate mail? Lamellar? Would there be patterns of designs on the cloth for show or identification? How will things be layered? How do they attach (straps, ties, buttons, buckles, sewn etc)?

Tied in with all this is the actual character part. Think of him as a human being, with emotions, preferences, a life, a history, a family. how would these things be reflected in his design? Would his armor be worn out? Would it be new? Would he get hot and roll up a sleeve? How does he carry himself? With confidence and strength? Or is he more timid and shy? Is he reliant on his speed and agility or his strength and power? How would this be reflected in his pose and design? How can you show his personality through design? You want to make him an individual, make him interesting. Not just a generic "soldier number 468 mixing with mongol influence and a lance".

How to hands?

not beginner, but not amateur either.

digital painting is rough. when i start putting color on how do i keep it from getting so muddy?

>>2167380
Did this just now for a friend. Took me about 50 minutes.

>>2168863
out of curiosity, what do your sketches usually look like?

I was just trying to come up with something I could bullshit a pallet to so people could criticize that

I am working on drawing better lines but it takes time- but I want to work on more than one skill at a time

Trying to turn an old study into something beautiful

>>2169896
put a dragon in it

>>2169856
>amateur
>a person who engages in a pursuit on an unpaid basis
So you're a professional, or are you just pants-on-head fucking balls-up, ass-checks down fucking retarded? Read a book. You should be ashamed of yourself, honestly.

>>2169896
That round head makes him look like an 11 year-old who's either really muscular or has the flabby body of a 60 year-old.

>>2169401
Super thirsty for a critique right now tbh.

>>2169897

chickendragon is dragon too right?

Could somebode please redline me? My anatomy sucks, im still struggling with gestures - be it traditional or digital.

any feedback is mostly welcome!

>>2169905
that's fuckin rad as shit yo

>>2169840
Question thread or beginner thread.

>>2169914
I tried

>>2169950

trying out some color stuff

>>2169914
what a beautiful drawing. do u have a tumblr or something?

>>2169956
where'd you get that pic of me

>>2169971

I specialize in distraught-looking unisex characters

>>2169759
Kek

Work in progress

did a lot of gesture work tonight

here's one

>>2170036
I like it.

>>2167936
work the background up with your figure fag

thoughts

thoughts

>>2170164
make the tomb or w/e it is more interesting, real life examples? that dude who balance rocks in surprising ways, in your case it would be even more mindfuck due to the scale, add some interest to the focal point, painting is going good

ánimo

>>2169905
holy shit, keep that duck face on the dragon, it's gonna be hilarous

does the face look okay
>>2170166
i mean it's pretty plain there's not much going on there's not much to say.its painted nicely, but a major issues is that the value of the rock and the mountains behind it are too similar so i would introduce more contrast.
>>2169896
a lot of pillow shading going on in the torso

>>2170185
left cheeck is so flat, make mouth softer, her left part of it reads weird (might be just the face part around it being same bright and flat), too much contrast on it makes it pop ut
make her hair brights go warmer colors
going cute

< conservative/problematic values guy here, studying value compositions and doing deeper studys on details

>>2170185
>>2170170
thanks friends

>>2170192
another one

>>2170209

>>2167380

im working on something new

>>2169950
You semi-successfully tried to be funny instead of helping anon out.

>>2170038
time?

>>2170213

its got a long way to go

Im just wondering because i just recently started going on this board
How come you guys are so completely against learning from Hogarth?

>>2170185
pay attention where the soft edges are when doing those girl portrait studies

>>2170236

almost done now i guess, just needs word balloons really

demon juice transforms into a fire knight and then explodes into a giant mushroom cloud of fire and becomes a giant demon made of solid fire

think i did a pretty good job of showing and not telling though

>>2169950
heh, thanks i guess, not exactly what i was looking for tho.

>>2169970
i will have something once i stop sucking and know what im doing - so nothing yet. but thanks for the kind words!

>>2170250

pretty much done, if anyone wants to read more pages of this you can always read the DEMON JUICE webcomic: http://demonjuice.thecomicseries.com/

>>2170269

each fire knight explodes into a giant fire demon in a different way

>>2169876
It's already muddy in your grayscale, are u stupid?

>>2169881
This should take you 5 minutes at most

CC please

>>2170292
shitbag. forgot to resize.

>>2170293
Her face is fucked up, so is her gesture.
Her hands are hidden

Are those fucking tits on her shoulders? what the fuck are those boob highlights?

IS THAT A FUCKING VAGINA IN THE MIDDLE OF HER TORSO? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT

>>2170293
wtf dude, what's going on their abs, paint over line art and don't act like there exist an edge, she seems to have a fucking ass in her belly, and please, do from scratch that face, no symbols please

even if belly forms are all wrong its rendered and colored nicely, can't guess how you managed to do that, copy & color picking I guess

>>2170246
10/10 critic

>>2170269

WAIT, i went in a fixed a few things, now its done!

>>2170297
Please explain how the gesture is fucked. I'm not happy with the face myself but that's not my main issue right now.
Tits on the shoulder is her costume, I don't care if you don't like. Boob highlight, I've already got rid of.
I dunno what bit you're talking about about the vagina bit, bit If you're just gonna critisize, please atleast make it constructive. If you think it's so bad a redline would be appreciated.
Dunno why everyone here has to be so negative and insulting damn.
>>2170301
Alright, so the line down the middle, I'll get rid off, but I'm using a ref for the stomach anatomy. And no, no colour picking, just alot of blending with alt-click colouring.

>>2170321
it's not just the black line, the paint itself is too deep on that zone, it's as dark as hips shadow when close to the skirt, that's all wrong, soft all edges inside belly, invert your canvas to really see what you did there

If you want to stylice face, use reference as you need

>>2170213
>>2170236
>>2170250
>>2170269
>>2170273
>>2170314

>>2165189

Fuck off

testing thumbs after days of work, gotta quit bad habits

>>2170375
2nd test, taking me time to do :l

So today is the day I decided I will stop asking myself "how do they do that" and try to paint something myself.
Used reference but drew the face from imagination (probably the reason why its the shittiest part of the painting)

>>2167380

>>2170321
I think what they meant about her tits is that they're reeeeaally high up, seriously use some reference

>>2170396
boobs are so ball-alike, that rock on the ground is rendered with a total different light source, face is so flat, noise, eyes and mouth are like pasted things, think of features as parts, they flow, smoothly, think as a single unit.
right arm drappery might be too repetitive
neck goes from tin to big , that's wierd, keep it thin

legs and hands are going awsome

>>2170349

r u serious analnon?

>>2170413
thanks, totally missed neck and rock light source

drawing ze grilfend

going for muhtastefulvalues™

>>2170314

>>2168396
i really like it! i might have pronounced the thoracic arch to have more overlapping forms

A wip, what can i improve?
Also, what kind of colors do you think will fit for the background stuff.

>>2169838
Hey, thanks for the detailed critique.I kind of wanted to just make a faceless mook, though. Implying history is fine if you're designing a specific character, I'm more or less just painting a cavalryman. I guess I'm a pretty boring person.

I worked a bit more on it, trying to add a bit of personality or something, but I've spent most of that time redoing that hand. You know which one I mean. Still an overworked mess. Bah, whatever, I'll move on to something else soon.

>>2170836
I have no idea what I'm looking at here, so it's pretty hard to tell. Vagina-hairdryer legs? On a person? Idk, man, some clarity with variations in local value and stuff might make it clearer, until then I just don't know.

>>2170349

Started drawing from a reference yesterday, but lost the reference. :(
Just went with it while muh movies were downloading. Any critiques please so that i can get better

Can't figure out the angle for the left horn. Any thoughts?

for fuck's sake