/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Fuck you kyle, bitch.

>>2141498
have you preyed to the god of animu render yet ?

Who's the artist of >>2136687 ?

>>2141525
He will never ever answer your questions, he's the most disgusting person here on /ic/.

>>2141527
truly the worst.
the evil king of thundertighs

>fat tighs
fucking disgusting

>>2141525
He is you, asking yourself who is also >>2141527
for someone else to name drop yourself.

>>2141531
>people still believing that Kyle samefags for exposure
>still believing that anybody would ever samefag on /ic/ for exposure

>inb4 Kyle pls go

>>2141553
>mentions his name when I call him out on his shit

Typical bitch. Did you graduate from Sly Marketing University?

>>2141557
better than graduating from jelly university.

>>2141492

>>2141527
>>2141531
>>2141553
>>2141557
>>2141559
Girls, girls, you are all pretty.
But give me some link to the artist please. Jeez

>>2141567
>he doesn't know about kyle the rustled
kek

>>2141492
That looks fookin uncomfortable.

>>2139287
>>2139279
you know, it's just like i thought. one doesn't need perfect life drawing abilities in order to draw decently. it was the same with me.
it probably is enough once you understand how to look objectively at an image .

>>2141584
>one doesn't need perfect life drawing abilities
Someone that has talent/knowledge/skill will have it no matter what he draws.
Also, what the fuck are perfect drawing abilities?

>Kyle never answer questions anymore
>Still posting his art
>meanwhile Catbib shares his brushes and knowledge

>>2140968
>>2140984

is there more?

>>2141596
I was trying bit thicker linework just now, will post when I'm done

>>2141589
>Someone that has talent/knowledge/skill will have it no matter what he draws.
not sure what your point is. "skilled people will be skilled"? t-thanks senpai.
>Also, what the fuck are perfect drawing abilities?
what kind of question is this? also i said "perfect life drawing abilities", you even quoted me on that.
stop confusing me.

>>2141593
i'm pretty sure he always held back with replies. even when people were calling him chickenoppailoli and stuff.

>>2141492
Why did you made a new thread? there was already one.
>>2141166

>>2141604
is this ... a joke?

>>2141604
They can't handle cute and adorable bunny rabbits

>>2141525
Kyle kairuonoburogu tumblr . Com

>>2141606
I know that you want every thread to have your drawing kyle but stop shitting up the catalog with
different versions of your general because you didn't like the picture.

Kyle, man, why don't you just get the fuck off /ic/? Nobody likes you, piece of shit.

>>2141624
Nothing shows up.

>>2141624
>>2141635
I correct myself, it did and I don't even know why

>>2141596

>>2141527
>He will never ever answer your questions

Well maybe you should stop expecting people to give you answers to everything and learn how to problem solve yourself? He shares his work. That's enough. Study it on your own time and break his work down yourself if you like his shit that much. You learn better that way anyway. Too many shit artists want other artists to hold their hands like toddlers.

>>2141492
>>2141634
I still remember when he posted this as his "drawing" in his blog.

>>2141599
>were calling him chickenoppailoli and stuff
I remember him way before even that, he was just posting his sketches in the drawtheads and everyone was shitting on him for drawing animu but
i was supporting him since he was trying, now he just comes to drop a finished drawing and leaves he doesn't expect any kind of critique, >>2133273

>>2141632
i don't know who kyle is I just don't know why anyone would post on a thead that says "nightmare fuel"

>>2141651
> Making studies is wrong

Fuck off.

>>2141651
>I still remember when he posted this as his "drawing" in his blog.
That's still a drawing, mang

>>2141651
>using reference is bad
This is why people here on /ic/ don't make much progress.

>>2141652
Because it's a general thread and this doesn't matter? should i make another one because i don't like kyle's art? should we have
5 porn threads to choose your favorite opening drawings from?

>>2141653
>studies
As i said this was his "drawing" until someone posted the reference, he tagged it like so on his blog as well, search the archive if you came here yesterday.

>>2141655
No tis stealing someone's photograph to slap an anime face on it and sell it as a commision.

>>2141651
I stop "supporting" him too but
>he doesn't expect any kind of critique
Who needs critique from non-artists? No proofs = irreverent critique
>refs are bad
Jesus

my attempted poju style

>>2141657
>>2141662

This person makes money by stealing photographs and adding anime faces on them, you understand this right?
this isn't practising using references or i have an idea but i cant get the hands right so i will use
a reference of my hands, this is i don't know how to draw so i am going to copy a photograph 1:1 and sell it as my drawing.

>>2141659
>As i said this was his "drawing" until someone posted the reference, he tagged it like so on his blog as well, search the archive if you came here yesterday.

Is that even a commission like you said ? If anything it looks less good than his other works that are clearly original (like OP), don't be so buttmad, he knows what he's doing.

>>2141665
>it looks less good than his other works that are clearly original
Kyle said that the OP image was a direct copy of a reference as well, tho.
And it's a commission.

>>2141665
>Kyle
>Original

>>2141651
>reminiscing about about chicken emperor thundertighs-kyle
my god i'm gonna fucking puke.
the only thing i remember about seeing his stuff for the first time is how much it assaulted my tastebuds.
well, he's come a long way since then. at least the chickenoppailoli is somewhat gone. though i bet most people in this thread in particular would like it anyway even if it didn't change.

>>2141664
>This person makes money by stealing photographs and adding anime faces on them, you understand this right?
Like everyone? Post your art.

OP should rename it to Jelly Thread.

>>2141671
Post yours so i can sue you.

>>2141664

LOL, you sound like a salty faggot. I bet Kron and Sakimi trigger you too. Quit with the bitch act and do you. Stop worrying about other people like a catty cunt.

>>2141599
I am still asking you what did you mean with perfect life drawing abilities?

Kyle's life drawing is above average.

And my point is (and it always will be), that someone who doesn't have his fundamentals sorted out, will never be a good artist (no matter the content of his art), or in the BEST case scenario will lose a lot of time getting good by approaching art the wrong way.

>>2141667
He said the commission WAS to redo a reference in his style though.
Why are you so butthurt about this?
If someone sits in front of the Notre Dame and draws it, then is it not his drawing? Was Van Gogh a hack when he made pic related for just drawing the view from his window and slapping some personal twists on it?
>inb4 I get called Kyle
I don't even know if this is a meme or not, de nem mivel itt feltételezem senki sem képes bebizonyítani semmilyen vádat, max annyit tudok mondani hogy jétlem ez a Kyle beszél magyarul.

>>2141674
I'm shit artist. But looks like you're no_ref_pro artist. So prove it
>using model is ok
>using photo ref is no no

>>2141604
You forgot the pink Headline. Next time you try to provoke responses by choosing the least adequate picture for the OP image, at least try to be more diligent lol.

>>2141684
>using model is ok
>using photo ref is no no

you're actually right, anon, glad to see you're smart

>>2141689
Using a model while pretending you didn't is not ok, that's what he did in that thread.

>>2141681
>Kyle's life drawing is above average.
not really. by perfect i mean like russian academy level of perfect.
but i get what you're saying now.

in my post i was just wonering how far do we have to take it (fundamentals) in order to draw the more cartoony and abstract animu stuff?
though it's probably best to take it as far as we can.

>>2141690
Model = ref
Ref = shit artist

>>2141691
>i was just wonering how far do we have to take it (fundamentals) in order to draw the more cartoony and abstract animu stuff?
I think you never stop learning, but most importantly you should never stop training your fundamental skills.

>>2141693
dat full body shot on the right
my sides

looking for some advices when it comes to anatomy to get better.

I already have some experience in drawing, and I can manage with references, but that's it, even if I make some good pics it's a bit frustrating to be limited by that when I see others that have no problem in making great poses from imagination.

Yes, I've been already training but it's clearly not enough, I've been drawing for like 3 years and when I think about it I haven't been focusing so much on working my "basics".

I mean, I kinda know what I'm doing. When I'm using references and looking at others drawing I can tell that it's how it works and how it doesn't, it's not like I'm mindlessly copying. But when I doesn't use anything I'm somehow usually lost.

That's why I would like to ask :
- how many times per day are/were you taking to train with anatomy pose ?
- What did/do you use as a ref to train ? Loomis said you need at some point to try without references, but when do we know when that's the case ?

>>2141693
Why are you posting examples of shit art? You trying to make a point?

>>2141697
it'd be good to show some examples of your art.

generally, you should focus on the more abstract stuff like gesture, contour, flow or composition if you want to draw from imagination. if you really do have your anatomy in check, just try to draw with those things in mind.

>>2141703
>it'd be good to show some examples of your art.

Nah. Like I said, I would just like to find a good way to train, I know my level and what I'm lacking.
As for anatomy, it's not so much in "check", I need to get better as well, I kinda suck when it comes to male muscles.

>>2141697
>making great poses from imagination.
The great thing about 2d art is that you can push the anatomy/perspective/pose/proportions any way you'd like to make a more interesting picture. It comes down to having an artistic "eye". You can try and train yourself to imagine more interesting poses by studying artists you admire and think about how they're pushing their limits and still look convincingly good.

You can study figure drawing until the cows come home (it's a good foundation) but to make interesting art you have to be imaginative about almost everything. I'm assuming you want to draw good anime porn and that's why you're here.

Sometimes when I'm feeling stuck I'll draw a shape that looks interesting (to me). Push the perspective and pose as much as possible.
A lot of quality gets lost in the refining process, just remember that your initial sketch is probably the best example of everything you want to show. I know I'll start sketching and it looks great, then I'll add detail and it becomes pretty boring. Keep your sketch in your mind at all times.

>>2141702
>shit art
Redline pls

>>2141710
> I'm assuming you want to draw good anime porn and that's why you're here.

Not so much, I'm pretty recent when it comes to porn actually (6 months at best), but it makes me works way more on anatomy than usual, not for nothing the good porn artists are top tier when it comes to skills.


Otherwise, I see your point, but what should I do to get solid anatomy skills ? I'm also still lacking when it comes to a dynamic pose, I tried looking at some tutorials but I feel like I'm missing something, or maybe I'm just lacking training.

Do shades look right? I don't want to(also can't really) make it extremely rendered since it doesn't need to be but I'd like to give it a good shape with light rendering.

Also are lines too thick?

>>2141651
It's still a fucking "drawing" even if he used a ref! Jesuschrist, why is so many cunts on /is/ tying to trash talk anyone who is even microscopically successful/skilled? This wasn't a commission, it was just something he drew for him self and then shared, get off your high horse.

>>2141755
Whoops, mixed up a bit... it was a commission, but he was specifically commissioned to draw from that reference, so it still doesn't matter one bit.

>>2141738
the stomach and hip area looks really shitty. look at some references or hell, even look at kyles stuff, just be more clear about the shape.

>>2141755
He shared it as his drawing on his tumblr and never answered any questions about reference use until someone posted the reference,
he clearly wants everyone to believe that he constructed it from his imagination while it's literally a 1:1 photo copy/study.
This is not his drawing, there is nothing he's about it, the idea isn't his, the composition isn't his, the gesture isn't his, he just reproduce a photograph.

>>2141765
Horrible!

>>2141760
alright, anything about anatomy? I want to make her arms more sexy but idk how if that makes sense.

>>2141768
indeed

>>2141771
artists are scum

>>2141765
>This is not his drawing, there is nothing he's about it, the idea isn't his, the composition isn't his, the gesture isn't his, he just reproduce a photograph.
Yeah, like the faggot who made >>2141683, right?

>>2141765
Fake artists than can only copy everywhere.

>>2141781
Kyle just recreated someone else's work with anime eyes.
If you see van gogh paintings when you look out of the window i am somehow worried.

>>2141791
Van Gogh just recreated nature's work as he saw it with a bit different colors and shapes.
If you see anime eyes when you look at people then I am somehow worried.

>>2141792
It's about integrity, using other people's compositions/lightings/set ups without giving proper credit. The absence of credit is just as bad as claiming it to be your own. Literally kronprinz supporters.

>>2141792
Van Gogh choose the composition, the style to show forms with hue change instead of value, everything is his creation.
Kyle googled a ready made photograph, some photographer had the idea, took the model, choose the composition and gesture and made the photograph,
Kyle took that, copied it with absolutely any change other than some mistakes here and there due to his inability and added a pair of symbol eyes which he probably
copied from somewhere and called it his drawing without even saying anything about the reference, think about why i don't consider Kyle's art his.

>>2141624
>>2141576

fuck you give us an actual link you fuckwads

>>2141797
So photorealism isn't art, okay.

>>2141797
No one honestly thinks this "Kyle" guy is comparable to Van Gogh. Once "Kyle" has a painting sell for millions of dollars, you will be right and have a point.

Until then, you sound like the most pathetic juvenile little shit in the world. Seriously, you are fucking upset that some porn artist uses references without crediting the photographer.

THIS is the war you chose to wage.

THIS is the type of life you want to lead.

Fucking silly little man.

>>2141797
>without even saying anything about the reference

Some guy asked him, and Kyle said: ''This is a commission. The commissioner sent me a picture and wanted me to copy the pose exactly''.

This just reeks of buttmad jelly, you're just pulling assumptions out of your ass to shit talk him.

Also
>thread about drawing with refs comes up on /ic/
>'Yeah nah brah ref is totally pro artists have been doin that shit forever, most people don't draw 100% from imagination'
>Kyle does it and he's a shit tier hack

>inb4 Kyle pls go hurr durr

No, this is exactly the reason why /ic/ is a shit hole, and why pro's don't come here.
Every shit tier beginner artist on /ic/ goes into full on butt bamboozled mode every time some one half way decent posts here.
How people can get this delusional and jealous is beyond me.

>>2141765
>This is not his drawing, there is nothing he's about it, the idea isn't his, the composition isn't his, the gesture isn't his, he just reproduce a photograph.

Yeah man, all those French classical painters that heavily relied on sight size method and using models/refs were fucking hacks man.

>>2141800
Kairuonoburogu.tumblr.com

>>2141811
>''This is a commission. The commissioner sent me a picture and wanted me to copy the pose exactly''

That relates to the drawing in the OP, the drawing in question was not a commission, but something Kyle drew on his spare time for him self... so that makes the ref use even more retarded to argue about, really.

Hey /ic/
I could use some help with proportions here.
on the guy mostly but over all would be great.

>>2141817
Not really as he uploaded it on his gallery without saying anything about the reference not here as well effectively making it advertisement for his art.

Man, y'all need to quit yer bitchin' and post some artwork.

/ic/ Pissing & Moaning

>>2141841
I could offer a tentative 'redline', but I'm not without fault either. Interested?

>>2141851
i'm always open for as much help I can get ! Go for it friend!

>>2141841
That donkey is in dire need of leg muscles.

>>2141865
where? the upper thighs or more towards the hooves?

>>2141814
it''s not working and it's making me sad

>>2141891
he made a typo. it's kairunoburogu

>>2141697
You have to draw, draw and draw, and in the meantime possibly think about what and why you are drawing what you are drawing. That's the only way to build a great visual library.

>>2141936
> and in the meantime possibly think about what and why you are drawing what you are drawing

>>2141942
I think I made myself clear enough, even though ut sounds retarded.
I was talking about the fact that you have to understand what you are referencing form nature. Copying stuff will help him build a visual library, but it won't help him understand how things work for when he'll want to draw new stuff from imagination. He will be just able to recreate what he's already seen.

Drawing studies are called like that because you have to study what you are drawing and not simply recreate what you see.

>>2141947
Yeah, but I don't think that's enough. I can easily picture and understand what I want from what I learnt, but properly picturing it from "nothing" is different and way harder. Is the problem just coming from training or is there something else ? And what kind of training would help then ?

>>2141865
hmm i guess you meant in general, sure
i'll look at more horse anatomy and see where i misplaced the muscles

This is like neo-Alternative Art/Stylization General

Where everyones arguing instead of posting art
and people talking about kyle this and kyle that kyle selling a photo-study commission, kyle awful.
Does he need this much attention?

>>2141959
shhh- let them talk about dicks and argue about pedos. that way we have our peace.
also we'll be safe from the evil king of thundertighs too.

>>2141950
Hm. I guess you lack the ability to picture stuff in your mind. If you close your eyes are you able to see a clear image of, let's say, a pose that you want to recreate? It doesn't have to be photographic memory of something you've already seen. Just an approximation of something you've already seen/experienced. Can you do that?

>>2141965
I guess I would have to try thinking about this. I always have had a "fuzzy" memory and even when I can "picture" a character I understand i doesn't remember at all about its look when I try to draw it, that may be the same, I think I picture it when I don't really.

How would you train that anyway ?

>>2141645
gallery?

What do you guys think of my style? Anatomy?

>>2141993
do some gestures, draw some muscles for a better understand of form, understand light & how color works, look up artist styles you love/enjoy and see what they do to make theirs appealing, then make your style appealing.

see you in a couple months, hope you improve greatly studying

>>2141651
This is why I don't buy commissions from digital stylized-realism artists. You never know whether they just traced the shit and added bigger eyes, or if they actually did it legitimately

>>2141663
>Top
unfinished not enough to even tell what you're trying to do

>left
WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK?! that head is too big, LOOMIS! even babies have a 2 head size proportion to their torso this thing has one what abomination is this?

>right
looks like you super imposed the head from the previous Dragon's Crown pic onto this one, once again head is way to large (yes even in this perspective)

>>2142011
it's too large for adult or young adult proportions but i'm pretty sure he's going for something entirely else. like some beast shota thing.
that being said it is a little too large, it's barely acceptable though

>>2141651
WE KR0NPRINZ NOW

KYLE EXPOSED!

>>2142018
You must be new here.

>>2142020
You must be retarded here

>>2142023
There is absolutely nothing wrong with using references.

>>2142020
Who is this smug jug cumming bug?

Reminder to hide all mikufag threads; both this thread and the stylisation thread, to enhance your browsing experience on this mongolian etch-a-sketch autodidactic board.

>>2142038
Why do people hate mikufriend? Does anyone have an image recap of stupid stuff he did/does? Is mikufriend a meme I'm not aware of?

>>2141904
thank

>>2141987
nothing but this for now
http://abusesoft.tumblr.com/

what do you guys think about render style and general feel, I really want to change her eye to something simple but I'm not sure what shape.

changed linework again, her right boob is bigger and lines are bit thinner.

>>2141811
>thread about drawing with refs comes up on /ic/
>'Yeah nah brah ref is totally pro artists have been doin that good forever, most people don't draw 100% from imagination'
>Kyle does it and he's a good tier hack
"Only Jaime Jones and Craig Mullins are allowed to use reference, everyone else is a noob who needs to keep drawing cubes with round brush" -by anon, who probably doesn't even read this thread.

>>2142041
He's a /pol/ drawfag who uses google photos for his poses and doesn't want to learn the loomis way.

He also uses the beloved Squidgirl as his sole porn actress. He needs to quit putting my waifu in a bad light you piece of fucking shit.

>>2141492
Hey I could use a little help with the over all piece.

I'm having a hard time getting the face just right and the volume and mass of the cock just isnt working out right,

I cant really seem to get the lips to appear like they are wrapped around a huge hog

>>2142073
>He also uses the beloved Squidgirl as his sole porn actress. He needs to quit putting my waifu in a bad light you piece of fucking shit.

I'm not the one you should be worried about.

>>>/pol/47445137

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/46934427/#46953397

>>2142085
He's posted his comics here before. I thought that was you too

>>2142068

I'd concur on changing the eyes, but in general I like it.

>>2142070
>Is a namefag AND a tripfag
>Is pro 3DPD, making it a normie scum
>Actually thinking jaime Jews and Cragg Milton is good

Opinion disregarded, you belong here >>>/Leddit/

>>2142073
nothing was lost, Squidgirl Was a shite anime anyways.

>>2142088
>Please take the bait

>>2142088
The quotes elude you, friend. Please retake comprehension exam.

trying to keep track of six alt versions in one sai file is a shitshow waiting to happen

how's her anatomy? she's supposed to be slightly chubby chun-li

I think the low torso is still too short.

>>2142164
arms are a little funky, and the bottom part of the pelvis seems to end a little short

>>2141841
The guy has fairly small hands and feet. His arms and legs are spindly too.

How's my tentacle monster-girl?

>>2142164
It's her cooch, maybe you should fix it a bit more. Try to harmonize the whole figure into something well balanced.

>>2142149
there's no anatomy there..

>>2142149
try doing a side view of this position to get an idea of what you're trying to do, then redo this pose. the issue is foreshortening, i think.

>>2141865
>>2142179

I tried adding more muscle to the horse legs and thickening up the limbs of the man

>>How's my tentacle monster-girl?

I'm not much of an expert in art but her breasts look a little off.

Trying to work on line weight

>>2142030
>copying the body of a 30 year old hag as a reference for a drawing of a child
Why do people do this? It looks fucking weird. The proportions should be adapted.

>>2142237
>30
>hag
Pedophile detected

>>2142018
Are you joking? He posts his references when asked.

>>2142078
The hand needs to be bigger

how am I doing on the chub's belly?

>>2142263
Learn how the human body works before attempting any porn.

>>2142263
Bad. Her bellybutton shouldn't look saggy.

Trying to get back in the groove.

>>2142232
Ayyyyy

>>2142237
Time to discover that loli is about keeping the body ratio of a child while making it sexy like a woman. If anything there isn't so much difference between legal loli and petite woman in Japan because of the manga style.

>>2142147
looks good gabe

Looking for critiques before I start cleaning it up. I know that it doesn't quite match up to their positions in the original, though.

http://leepictroll-chan.deviantart.com

>>2142434
Maybe the ankles could be a bit thinner.

Im having issues on how much fat causes the skin to stretch. I found a method to make the bottom portion of the belly from looking as if its over hanging, but i'm probably wrong

>>2142078
Butt position seems off to me, more put it more to the right and have it less at an angle? Might just be me.
As anon said, hand is too small.
Forehead and nonface skull seems a bit small to me personally, depends on style I suppose.
Also that male has a real tiny waist.

>>2142229
It looks like a toy with removable limbs, you literally have no mass to move those legs. It's not the anatomy is bad, it's absent.

>>2142553
>>2142229
forgot pic

>>2142434
tumblr?

>>2142198
it should be like this, not exactly side but I don't think it looks that odd, first pic don't have the hand bending her arm since I wanted to make her anatomy look ok first.

>>2142616
the legs seem a little short and seem to be on different planes

>>2142553
>It looks like a toy with removable limbs, you literally have no mass to move those legs. It's not the anatomy is bad, it's absent.

Thanks for the picture, I'll see if I can fix it!

>>2142624
on the original or side sketch?

>>2142627
the "side" sketch

>>2142253
>The hand needs to be bigger
Okay noted, I thought it was alittle on the small side.

>>2142546
>Butt position seems off to me, more put it more to the right and have it less at an angle? Might just be me.
>Forehead and nonface skull seems a bit small to me personally, depends on style I suppose.
>Also that male has a real tiny waist.


Okay, yeah I was working off of reference and I couldnt really tell how her butt was so i'll give it a fix
I'll put in those changes on my next pass.

>>2142631
ok I can see the right leg is off on the original one

>>2142645
does this look any better?

>>2142672
now its the right leg and pelvis. starting to look better anon.

>>2142434
Yes. This is okay.

>>2142672

>>2142263
>>>/sticky/

some rough loli sketches from the past 20 minutes. would love some criticism/suggestions

>inb4 pedo scum

>>2142803
Nice hands.

>>2142803
i only do hands on sketches i decide to finish and color. which i probably won't do with any of these since i don't really like them.

>>2142809
sorry replied to myself >>2142812

guys what do i do when i just cant draw anything

>>2142836
you give up and die

>>2142863
thats harsh

>>2142803
Would recommend studying form more, and how to draw heads and hands.

>>2142164
Trying to copy a shit artist is not gonna go well.

>>2142751
left foot is bent strange

>>2142907
>but Kyle doesn't help anyone

>>2142337
yo level with me. Do I actually have a recognizable style or did you just see the inks during a stream or something. I never feel like I have any sort of recognizable patterns in my smuts.

Wip, is there a lot of shortstack artists? I think this is a niche I'd could fill.

>>2142928
not that anon, but it's you linework and meaty figures.

>>2142928

Your linework and proportions are recognizable.

>>2142836
READ THE STICKY, Keep grinding, copy as many drawings, try to draw from imagination, boost your visual library, keep practicing, study from others who has the experience,once you finally learned how to draw, do it again, just do it!

>>2142836
Start working on landscapes, start with mountain ranges. Study mtg art if you can't find a nice mountain.

If you're a beginner who sucks you should read the damn sticky.

>>2142962
And draw them so they look happy.

>>2142931
>Midna with cowtits
HERESY
I think there's a couple mainstream ones, like Incase, but it's not like the market is especially oversaturated.

That's what happens when you spend waay too much time on a sketch. Sry about the mirror faces lol.

>>2142984
>sister love

From BBC to incest? Christ, man. You're pretty good though I'll give you that.

>>2142984
Are your guy characters this feminine on purpose? The women have elongated palms.

>>2142994
He or she usually draws black male characters so emphasis on the lips I imagine carries over intentionally or not. They're not really "exaggerated" I'd say but even going out of the way to draw them at all is kind of eye-catching for better or worse and kind of gives off a somewhat feminine appearance.

>>2142986
>implying incest isn't the most anti-degenerate relationship which was practiced by Zoroastrians, the followers of the first monotheistic religion on Earth and basically as close as being redpilled as one could be back then
>comparing it to BBC and cuckoldry
Shame on you.

>>2143006
Well I like his dick sucking lips on his males it adds a lot of character as if they're some stuck up rich pretty boy from Beverly hills.

>>2141492
Is it just me or are those legs horribly broken?

>>2143009
Since when are DSL a characteristic of stuck up rich boys?

>>2143020
Just you, fagballs.

>>2142928
you're the only artist who does muscular men so well on this board... and maybe in the western porn industry. I find your shapes and designs incredibly appealing, even if im not sexually attracted to your characters (being straight is hard)

>>2142986
Balls aren't touching

>>2143006
Pretty much nailed it. But it also has to do with me giving all my chars my own features (thick lips). Bad habit I guess. It's the second time now that someone mentions this as being a throw off.

Also. Reall didn't know what to do with the guys hands (not covering those legs and ass, no waay).

>>2142984
>>2143063
Man your shit's real good, the lips on the male add something unique to them.

>>2143069
Thanks.

>>2143048
>you're the only artist who does muscular men so well on this board

That's literally a matter of taste. His muscular men are exaggerated to the point of hilarity. Most of them look like Arnold in his body building prime.

>>2142928
>Do I actually have a recognizable style
Look at your art and what you're putting out in your given field. Nobody really draws like you dude.

>>2142928
Your linework is pretty unique, yeah. In terms of fluidity and lineweight it reminds me of sunibees, but you have a different visual library I guess.

>>2143069
well, to be fair, not like guys with lips are anything special.

>>2143106
I think so too. Having lips is pretty common imo.

>>2142928
Your drawings looks nothing like I ever saw in the porn industry, your style is easily the most recognizable of the thread.

>>2143063
I don't think it's a throw-off really it gives the male character a youthful appearance in contrast to the brutal middle aged warrior-elf-nigga you've posted there.

>>2142928
Link to your page pls I lost my bookmarks.

>>2143132
I understand that myself, but some people find it feminine or something.

>>2143008
>incest is illegal
>cuckoldry isn't
checkmate I guess

>>2143142
>black guys with big lips
>feminine

>>2141562

3DPD no matter what happens never stop posting on /ic/, it's one of the reasons I love coming here.

>>2143150
There are different ways to draw lips.

>>2143150
Obviously with white guys it's different, the two groups have different standards of masculinity.

It's normal for black people to have big ass bongo lips and it doesn't look feminine at all on them as they have thick complimentary features like wide noses, pronounced eyebrow ridges, protruding jaws and so on. White men whom we see as extremely masculine conversely will have thinner lips and features in general like Jason Statham.

When looking from within the same race an otter-mode 20-something white guy like Justin Bieber with a thin neck, small nose, somewhat pronounced lips and unblemished body will obviously have a soft, youthful and relatively "feminine" appearance in contrast to someone like Mel Gibson with his thin turtle lips, thick frame, blocky profile and potato nose.

who is this artist?

>>2143192
You know who it is stop acting stupid.

>>2143197
reverse search gives nothing

>>2143197
wow ur such a faggot.

>>2143063
HEY, i'm that anon from a couple days back who gave you all the feedback on having more interaction/intimacy/touching between characters

i think this piece works the way it is, posing wise, cause wile he's not really touching her, he's still actually doin somethin with his hands, like, he's holding them up in that kinna "i feeel the power" which adds to the whole leveling up joke, it works p well, got a decent giggle outta me, keep up da gud work m8

>>2143248
Haha, thanks for the comment.

Also. I decided the pose wasn't powerful/passionate/intimate enough so I redrew the sketch.

>>2143197
chill you're selve

>>2143263
just passing through, might i suggest the male's face points forward or slightly upward to accentuate the action and shape of the character, his jaw stretched widely open as well

>>2143263
Y his hair fall off tho

>>2143269
These are just rough sketches. Still haven't decided what the guy will look like.

>>2143270
>tfw your rough sketches are better than anything I could possibly bring to completion

You should just go to hell and stay there you big gay butt hole!

>>2142609
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=2564922

I should probably make a tumblr at some point

>>2143271
If it makes you feel better, I think sketching is my best asset.
Also, stop crying, man up and start pissing some blood during your art training, instead of being a sissy.

>>2143279
for how long have you been drawing, bbc?

>>2143287
Part time 10 years. Full time 5.
Drawing in general since I can remember.

>>2143263
lookin nice, but her arm touchin his forearm is really nice but unfortunately it's not possible :c

her forearm can't really bend behind the back like that, a decent rule of thumb is that the forearm can't rotate past being perpendicular to the ribcage, that's why to reach behind the back you have to move the whole upper arm/elbow back with it (or just have the upper arm lifting up so that the forearm is naturally positioned upwards)

for animation you always wanna act out the actual movement of your character to better get an understanding of the timing but it also helps you avoid impossible posing so i also feel it's a good little trick for any type of drawing

>>2143311
Thanks for the analysis: i was aware that I was pushing the anatomy to the extreme with that arm, but I thought I could "sell it". I guess I failed.
I'll try a different approach.

>>2143322
Maybe she could have her hand on his hand.

>>2142931
Not the greatest, but it's been a while since I've painted.

>>2141801

Isn't this that digital fingerpainting

>>2143092
>sunibees
that where the fucker learned most his tricks from

>>2143137
http://justmegabenewell.tumblr.com/archive

To an Anon that said the impression of cute is difficult to do in Animu I am sorry I take back what I said about it being easy I mean it's easy but the things that make it work have to be ridiculously exact and accurate you where right all it took was for one line to be off and the whole thing would look bad.

>>2143420

>>2141801
Autistic celebrity photocopies are never art.

>>2141801
>posts an image where the guy literally just took a photo, recorded him smudging and erasing it and then uploaded the recording in backwards onto youtube

Jesus fucking christ the amount of dumbcunts he fools with his shit boggles my mind.

>>2143063
I just enjoy seeing you do something besides the nigger comics.

>>2143416
>that where the fucker learned most his tricks from
I sense jelly.

How do you stop your penis from flooding your pants with pre cum when making lewds

Whenever i draw porn i have to prepare 2 pairs of pants just in case.
Do you guys wear condoms or be completely nude when you draw lewds

>>2143416
Nigga just draw fat asses and thighs huge tits donut assholes and ship everything popular show/game, throw in some nezumi/.pen. but don't detail it to much make it lewd n cute.

>>2143468
Anyone can be sunibee

>>2143487
Carefully position toilet paper where needed, like a diaper. Much more comfortable than a condom, less awkward than drawing in the nude.

Followed the advice of toning the use of texture down, switched off the base texture for the body color.

>>2143562
why

>>2143562
W-what is that?

>>2143562
It looks more alive now, i think your problem is that you apply the same amount of texture everywhere, remember texture is shown a lot more on the parts of the skin where light falls most, in the shaded area there
is little to no texture usually. If you want to know more about it download the book color and light by james gurney, there is a part where he talks about this more indepth.

>>2143505
>Anyone can be sunibee
Anyone with enough talent and/or training, yes.
Please stop sounding like a train made of jelly.

>>2143505
Well, then, Sunibee us Megaman or Tron Bonne from Megaman Legends.
See how well you do.

>>2143063
>It's the second time now that someone mentions this as being a throw off.

I considered saying something earlier. It's one thing that everything you draw has big lips, but you keep drawing them as if they're pouting. It kinda limits both the character designs and the range of expressions you draw.
The resting position for lips isn't pouty.

>>2143584
Do you think any of my characters is in a situation where their lips would be in a resting position. I just don't see it that way. Anyway, I see what you are saying. Will try to differentiate the expressions more while trying to keep the sexy/lewd appeal.

>>2143565
The kind of shit furries get off to.

>>2143600
But I am a furry... as in liking furry porn.

2nding on liking the lips on niggerpornanon's males.

>>2143572
Hes jelly ur jelly IM JELLY!

>>2143599
>Do you think any of my characters is in a situation where their lips would be in a resting position.
Yes. You often seem to replace it with pouting.

>>2143581
>Sunibee us Megaman or Tron Bonne from Megaman Legends.

They would looks disgusting in Sunibee's style. The anatomy and proportions would be too bastardized.

>>2143608
Yeah, I do that intentionally to convey pleasure, plus it makes faces more appealing (at least with girls). I think drawing lips in a resting position while being excited is a wrong thing to do. I agree on the fact that I use this expression too often.

>>2143633
Like that's the point lol. Do you even brain?

>>2143635
>Yeah, I do that intentionally to convey pleasure, plus it makes faces more appealing.
Which is probably why it looks so weird, as pouting doesn't convey pleasure.
Regardless, I think we've exhausted this topic, so I'll stop now.

>>2143635
>plus it makes faces more appealing (at least with girls)
I find full lips on 2D extremely bad, it's just taste at this point so nothing to really argue about, but i really don't like them,
i prefer simple lines, and especially if they do the stupid lip biting thing i immediately run a gutmann pass on it.

>>2143674
Not the guy you're talking to, but I tend to agree. However, it depends. A lot of cartoon/animu artists who draw lips tend to exaggerate them, but they can look good when drawn in a more subtle way. I've been experimenting with this over the past few months, and it's hard to get right, as simplicity and line economy can actually add to the expressive range in certain styles.

>>2143686
I think indicating with a bit of color or line the lower lip while leaving the upper lip with a line works fine, having both lips the same size for me is a big turnoff.

So I guess we all agree that talking about lips size is not a critique, but simply a matter of personal preference. I can live with that.

>>2143703
It's an aesthetic critic if anything, but it doesn't really mean anything on such a small opinion poll.

>>2143706
I would call it an opinion about aesthetics and not a critique.

>>2143727
Not that guy, but my biggest problem with lips in many styles, is the fact that they seem to be based on lowest common denomiantor sex appeal. You know, the same thing porn stars and vapid whores go for when they pump their lips full of silicone. The same goes for impossibly large tits, or overexaggerated proportions. The aesthetics are tossed out the window in favor of caricatured sexual features.

fuck you all
just fuck you all

>>2143778
>fucking people on a porn thread

im having issues with the drawing on the right where the pussy bump and stomach meet. the left drawing's left arm is also an issue

>>2143784
Learn your fundamentals. When you've learned them, come back and we'll give you some hepful critique. Right now you look just like a really bad troll.

>>2143784
Why don't you ever listen to what people have been saying to you?

>>2143392
If I'm understanding what you're asking right, then yes, it is.

>>2142068
how's her body? I've changed the proportions a bit, I want to simplify the eyes but still keep it sexy, idk whats the proccess for anime stuff so still experimenting.

Also inverted nipples yes or no?

>>2141492

>>2143911
mainly two things bother me:
boobs in that pose don't look like that and
the totally generic animu face doesn't fit at all to the that body

>>2143911
This is my personal opinion of course, but inverted nipples are hot as fuck. If you want to compromise then have the nipples themselves peeking out, so be visible but don't actually protrude from the areola.
About the eyes, if you want to base it on hentai, just look on sadpanda and "study" the eyes of some popular artists(e.g. Number2, Seura Isago, Yamatogawa, Takeda Hiromitsu, Mochi, ShindoL, Muchiero, Amaterasou, Ed, Katsurai Yoshiaki, Sian, etc.) and some regular anime/manga stuff(Murata, Yakubi, etc.). Also older hentai OVAs and anime like Bible Black and Sexfriend, Kita, etc.

>>2141712
>tfw I saw some one with a kirino shirt today

>>2143948
I actually have long list of my favourite hentai artists, some of them are shinozaki rei, chirimaya, orutoro, karma tatsurou, jingrock, nishi iori, doi sakazaki, asanagi.
& po-ju, katou jun, shiroo, kishinosato satoshi for some gay stuff

amongst these asanagi, jingrock, doi sakazaki & nishi iori have amazing volume, its almost like they're drawing in 3d, I'd love to get on that level of understanding but it looks like I need to put a lot of time. Also karma tatsurou&shinozaki rei have quite great eyes going on imo. I'll check your suggestions now, I know some of them like seishoujo.

>>2143941
should I make her left boob rounder? can you redline what you mean? I know the face doesn't look that good but I'm trying to make something simple&just werks, tho right now it really look soulless & doesnt fit that well like you said.

>>2144026
this is my fist time redlining mind you
yes, you should've made the boobs rounder. they'd only look like this if she'd be lying on her back, the weight on the ribcage.
also, the boobs are big and so rather heavy, which enhances the...boob crease
i also drew a face to show how the face could be altered to fit the body type.
more angular face shape, smaller eyes, more space between nose and mouth.
i hope this helps

>>2144026
>I actually have long list of my favourite hentai artists, some of them are shinozaki rei, chirimaya, orutoro, karma tatsurou, jingrock, nishi iori, doi sakazaki, asanagi.
>& po-ju, katou jun, shiroo, kishinosato satoshi for some gay stuff
that's quite the list. you need much much better anatomy to get there.

>>2142553
>>2142554
>>2142625

I've taken more of your critique into account and I've tried to add more mass and muscle to the bodies.

>>2144138
I think her eyes/face is done, I'm probably going to use these eyes, they're simple&close to what I want. also her boobs look better now I think, I'm going to call it over and start coloring, I didN't want her to have such big boobs but they look better than I expected.

I think I posted the WIP of this in a porn thread a while ago. I put inks on it and gave her clothes a while ago. Nothing hardcore. I still have a lot of junk to practice.

>>2142263
Not bad but please draw the rest of the breast in even if they're small

I don't think there's enough fat on this frame for there to be a huge horizontal crease like that

also the body is WAY too small where you have the vagina starting should actually be where the bottom of the belly rest

>>2143562

is that like a butt golem or

>>2143570
that's so beautiful. if only i could paint that well. and i don't even like semen blasting from asses

>>2144293
is she a feminist?

>>2141492
Blog/tumblr for the OP artist? I really love the color and shading.

>>2141693
Caravaggio and other masters used reference models for their paintings. Are you saying they're shit, too?

>>2144612
supposed to be abusive mother, rounded her eyes a bit for more motherly look but probably wont pust until I'm ok with the coloring.

>>2144343
no, just a bunny with furless body and an extra butt because he demonic overlord though he didn't have enough booty.

>>2141492
>>2144628
Ya me too! Sauce op?

>>2144641

That is some Silent Hill tier shit man. Holy fuck.

>>2144641
How much do you get paid for that?

>>2144628
>>2144643
http://kairunoburogu.tumblr.com/

>>2144641
WHAT DID THAT BUNNY DO TO DESERVE SUCH PUNISHMENT IN HELL

>>2144660
Thanks, nigga.

>>2144662
shitposted on 4chan

>>2144293
Personally I like the contrast between face and body. However, I'd spread her facial features out vertically a bit and widen her mouth slightly

>>2144631
For the purpose of masturbating to, definitely.

is kantai collection a good thing to draw porn of ?

Hey guys, I wanna thank ya'll for your help with my previous pictures.

So I was hoping you can help me again.

I'm using reference but I'm having a very hard time getting the torso and such to look decent

and the arm is giving me some trouble.

any help would be great and appreciated

>>2144763
I don't know, mang. I masturbated to Bernini's shit a few times.

>>2144772
idk shit about kantai collection but fapped to this and few other stuff in there for countless times so you figure.

>>2144263
I'd do something about the section of the back where human meets horse. I can see you adapted the neck muscles of the horse to lead into her back, but she's as wide there as she is in the widest part of the horse section, which makes the already small horse body look even smaller. And it's basically a hump on a girl in a porn image. I'd try making it more concave than convex, consider how the spine would go.

Also, I thought you made the horse part small for appeal, so I didn't mention it, but now I notice the man has longer legs than her.
I'm not saying to redo the picture, but as a personal opinion, if I drew this, I'd keep the human-horse proportions realistic and either make him a goliath or something, or go towards comedy and put him on a stool or have him straddling her, with his weight thrown forward and his knees bent forward on her sides, with his butt sticking out as he humps her. Always try making the picture interesting.

And I don't know where a vagina is located on a horse, but his hips seem positioned for anal, not sure if intentional.

I admire your perseverance, this is not an easy thing to construct.

Your front legs now seem to bend in the wrong direction, and they still look like they only start at the bottom of the torso, with a pseudo great trochanter (which horses don't have as far as I know) jutting away from the body. (This might not show without construction lines, but stll) See my shitty picture for visuals. I don't know horse anatomy, this is just the general placement of vague masses.

I'd draw you a redline, but I'm shit, so I won't.

>>2144787
okay wow, thanks for the advice,

tbh, I've never drawn many centaurs before so I'm really just looking how others have done it so I am half winging it. But I get a lot of requests for my one Centaur OC I drew once for a 30 day monster challenge.

I'm working on other things today, but I wanted to reply to you ASAP to let you know that I read this.

I'm okay with reconstructing the picture as it's really still in it's rough stages!

>>2144787
also, no idea what buccy is

>>2144808
its like debussy but not really

>>2144647
Nothing, most things i draw aren't commissions, commissions run around 100$ recently.
Often more because of multiple characters.
But because of the people i live with, i can't draw nightmare-porn whenever i want.

>>2144308
You did it

>>2144855
I would love to see you work sometime. You should stream how you do some of this!

Good work. I love bizarre stuff, and yours takes the cake.

>>2144855
I agree with
>>2144932
Also feel that pain of not being able to draw obscure stuff.

>>2144855
BEGONE SATAN

>>2144855
The horns lack precum.

Working on a commission and it's going bleh.
Crit, please!
Halp!

>>2144263
You make the cranial mass of the head a little to large, and at the same time push the facial features down, giving them a long face.

Push the jaw up, until the bottom of the cranium is close to the opening of the mouth.

Also giving people slightly open mouths makes them look like drooling retards.

>>2145016
>>2145038
Time to rub one out to these

>>2144932
i do stream but very infrequently

i keep the recordings but since i have no place to upload them to, not the upload bandwidth to seriously consider publishing them all, i only have very few processed like this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rnnbbgo2xwe7gh4/demon%20welcoming%20the%20new.flv?dl=0

>>2145074
Aw, shucks. But that tells me nothing about what's wrong with the picture.

>>2145078
please stop posting this.

Please tell me this is getting better and not worse...

>>2145150
Yes, go on.

>>2142975
>Incase
>Shortstacks
Have i missed something ?

BTW, boogies big on the shortstacks.
Meaconscientia.tumblr.com is where he's at.
There's other's but I can't remember off the top of my head.

>>2144779
anyone? I mean I know it's bad but, i mean thats why im here

>>2145244
buttsmithy. Look it up.

does this even bump anymore? or is it time for a new thread?

feet are hard

>>2145450
There would still be two of the same threads, everyone is too spooked to use the other one. If we make another one there would be three of them.

>>2141166

>>2145480
oh cmon
just let that shitpost magnet die

I need some help here. I was going for a manga style (symbols n stuff), but can't seem to nail the guy's appearance. I think the wolf lady looks ok, but the dude is really too westernized. Do you have any advice how to fix this?

>>2145582
Also, thanks to the anon who suggested to change the guy's head position.

is there any tool to blend colors in manga studio like sai?

>>2145591
Color mixing.

>>2145604
well fuck me for not seeing that, thank you very much anon

>>2145582
shit man, you got a tumblr or something? Your shit's real good, keep it up!

>>2145582
Make the guy a faceless fat bald man and you have perfect doujin material.

>>2145669
http://bbc-chan.tumblr.com

>>2145677
He has to be a muscular soldier/grunt.
I am not asking for suggestions about how to change the guy. I want to change the stylization and make the same type of guy look more mangaish.

>>2145698
Good shit man, love your stuff so far.

>>2145698
you just cant stop it dont you ?

>>2145244
Yes

>>2145698
Lower his muscle definition, change his hair, smaller jaw, change body hair style.
That's all I can offer based on your sketch.

>>2143562
i think you should resurface for a while

>>2145853
I have no intention in stopping posting my tumblr if people ask. Care to explain why should I?

and b4 crickets sound

>>2145870
Nice. I would never have thought about some of this stuff.

>>2145911
It's pretty obvious to me, just look at why the chick and guy look so strikingly different.

>>2144786
my nigger

>>2145913
Not sure what you are talking about, since the line style is the same. The only mayor difference that I can see is the less symbolized guy (mainly bacause of the extreme angle of his face).
I understand I should tone down the details of the musculature. I was just wondering if you guys have some specific pointers on how to do that.

>>2145582
Try simplifying the masses of his hair where it is thickest. His head hair, beard and chest would be a good start. Make those solid masses rather than individual hairs.

Pic related, kind of what I'm talking about.

>>2144293
The progress is definitely at your pace, which is very good, but I'm having a hard time trying to identify what emotion your trying to convey with this.

Is this a woman now tired of the world she's been immersed in for so long and finds sex, boring now? Is this a mother having seconds thoughts about turning her body to the world for everyone to see, unable to cope with society's standard of beauty? Is this a woman regretting growing up a woman, and ponders the life a man lives, and wonders, is it too late to change?

Where are we in this picture? Are we to assume we're standing in the emptiness of her imagination, or is she standing in a lush forest taking in the brisk, morning October air as the leaves on the redwoods rustle several feet above her head?

I applaud your efforts in taking steps to refine this piece, but it's missing something. The picture alone, does not carry enough substance in it to convey a proper emotion.

With all due respect, she looks like she's just standing there, bored, completely fed up with something. But what is she fed up about, if she's even fed up at all?

We often forget to tell a story with our illustrations. We worry so much about how pretty it is, like a child showing off their illustrations to their parents and friends.

A story- even a small one created in our minds, will help set the tone for the drawing, the right emotion captured, the right expression drawn, the right mood apparent and on display.

I know this won't help much, but I hope to some extent, it will help you better capture the essence in your next piece. Good luck.

>>2146040
Thanks! Will try to use this reference and what you said.while redrawing the illustration.

>>2145582
I'm not sure if you're still looking for advice on your piece, but perhaps leaving the piece with a mix of "western and anime" works well here.

I can sense a form of anger coming from the wolf girl, but maybe she's too angry. She looks like she's thinking, "Fuck this. I gave up a night resting on the cliff overlooking the coast, hoping to catch the yellow-buttered moon crack over the horizon -something so beautiful- for this?"

The male character seems relieved, instead of grossly overpowered and in control. The yank on her tail assures us of some form of dominance, but the look on the wolf girl's face, slightly diminishes what you were, or still are, trying to accomplish with the mood in this piece.

There's no immediate danger present, with all due respect. Referring to your initial question, I don't see there being a problem with this mix of "styles". I find it rather interesting, actually.

The face on the male character expresses closure. The wolf girl's expression however, leaves us wondering what could have been.

I hope this helps in whatever little amount it can.

>>2145467
Yes, feet can be at times difficult to draw, but not with the right kind of reference material at your disposal.

Let's examine this more closely. Do you see, how on the character forced down to the ground to our left, her right foot seem thinner?

Do you see how the other forced character to the ground, shares the same correctable mistake?

If we're under the impression he, or she, is wearing boots, do you see how most of your creative efforts were put into making the crotch area look very pleasing on both characters, but you neglected to carry that effort to the feet?

Study your reference picture again. And remember to stay consistent throughout your entire drawing. You can't make some parts of your drawings pretty, and then drop the ball on the rest of the illustration.

Stay consistent. I hope this helps you.

>>2146229
Great analysis! I'm correcting stuff at the moment (also, streaming if anybody wants to drop by and comment the corrections live) and will most definitely think about these issues, since I quite agree with what you said.

>>2145016
Although the work is still "in progress", please be sure to establish your light source early, and often.

If this scene is happening inside of a hut, away from the peering eyes of the public and perhaps, even the king himself, establish your shadows correctly now, and this will be an amazing mood projected. The look on her face deserves that kind of attention to shadow detail.

You may also want to look at the positioning of the vaginal opening. It seems a little too low, and if it is correctable at this stage in your digital painting, please plan to do so. Her anal opening is located roughly around that area, so perhaps, you were wanting to create an anal scene subconsciously, instead? There's nothing with that, too.

Keep in mind how gravity works with even the smallest of breasts (anything under a full B cup will still have some light gravitational pull downwards). You can also establish a sense of motion, with the drawing standing still.

There are also a few perspective errors like her left leg and her left arm, but it's still too early in the piece to critique. They are however, still early in the piece to fix.

I can't wait to see the look on the king's face when he finds his chevalier daughter like this, the drapes flung open on a hut located across the battlefield, quietly servicing his army in secret, two maybe even three soldiers at a time, tirelessly keeping up morale during the arduous grinding of the gears of war.

I hope this helps. Good luck.

>>2144779
With all works in progress, we often leave our imaginations to play in volumes, and that hinders us to study our reference picture.

If you are drawing this from reference, study your reference photo closely. If it's possible, overlap your drawing over the reference photo again. There are correctable perspective mistakes at play here, which is why you find the arms in the drawing, off.

Her mischievous facial expression is warranted no doubt, however, her smile could do without the tongue sticking out. It's just a personal opinion, but I'd take it out. It makes the look on her face, too comical. Again, just my opinion.

Please be sure to take a look at her breasts as well, the tendon lines on her inner thighs, and other correctable points you can still change.

She looks like she's having fun, especially with that enormous dick pushing up inside of her.

Your mood is correct, just change a few things and you'll be all set. Good luck.

>>2146250
You're quite welcome. Good luck.

>>2145038
Sister and bother at play, while mom and dad are out for the night? He looks shocked, with no where to run, embarrassed but curious.

With due respect, I feel the female character is largely overpowering in this piece, and perhaps, that's what you wanted to convey. There's nothing wrong with that, but he looks SO tiny compared to her; maybe re-adjusting her size a bit would be okay for you to try?

The curling of his toes is brilliant, but she needs to enjoy it, too. Make her tongue more prominent on his genitals, make it push up against his balls, convey force. She's enjoying the power trip, after all.

Again, it's a work in progress. But capture the mood. He's curious as hell to see where this can lead to, and she needs to possess that power in the only part that's connecting them right now - her delicious, defiant tongue.

Capture that, and you're set. So set, it's not even funny. Good luck.

>>2141841
Well, let's take a look at this.

A centaur is larger, in proportion to a human, so I'm safe to assume that this is a younger female centaur? Maybe the male trainer, young in mind and body as well, found it alluring to surprise?

The male's body is similar to a doggy style action, so reference material showcasing that exact pose could help you, at least the top half portion of the male body.

The lower half, and again I'm going on the assumption that this is a young female centaur, would have a slight bend at the knees, unless we're dealing with an older male taking advantage of this situation.

Doggy style reference pictures will do wonders for you here referring to your original question. Rear horse reference pictures will help with the female centaur.

Consensual or not, she was definitely caught by surprise. Hope this helps.

>>2142078
What could be throwing you off, it sure did for me, is the angle on her butt in relation to the rest of her body.

It looks added on to help make the illusion of her laying down more believable, but maybe a butt off camera could help the illusion as well? I'll leave that to your call.

The lips wrapped around "the hog" are angled correctly, just be sure to add more girth to what's left of what we can see on that said hog. If her suction is just as intense as those gorgeous lips, there should be a <i>slight</i> bend to the dick away from us, indicating some form of tension.

Her upturned nose, not shown on the work in progress but already imagined there, will help aid in that illusion of, "Yeah I'm sucking cock and you're taking of a picture of me, so what? Here's a peace sign for your picture too, you prick. "

Maybe even removing her butt altogether and adding feet pointed upwards behind her, could help aid that illusion, too? There are several things you can do here, just remember not to force something on camera if it doesn't need to be there.

Less is more. Hope this helps.

>>2142507
Putting block faces with smiles on your models like that means you don't want to identify with your discovery of adult work yet.

It's a safe wall for you. You don't feel like committing yourself to the world of adult artwork just yet, so, you put happy faces on, like a lifesaver around your waist as you float on down to the deep end or the pool.

Reference material is your best ally right now, and there are several bbw images to choose from out there on the web. Just be sure to look up BBW and moderate your selections. Several model references can help you, but too much of a good thing, is of course, no good for you.

Take whatever drawing program you're using and overlap your drawing layer, over your reference picture. Trace it. Once you're done with that picture, trace another. And another, so on an so forth.

In no time at all, you will have trained your hand and your eyes to transfer over images in your head, by mentally retaining that information for longer periods of time in your short-term memory- like a scanner for your mind.

So remember, <i>reference, reference, reference.</i>

If you just posted this to bait someone, congratulations. But I hope in some small way I've reached out to you, encouraging you, to keep drawing, no matter what.

I think Ms. Happy Face Cube, agrees with me, too. Reference, make friends with it. It will help you <i>tremendously.</i>

Good luck, young one.

Progress. I think now the guy is much more in tone with the lady. What do you guys think?

Also, still have to reposition the hand holding her head down and her left ear.

>>2141562
Kek

>>2146376
Now the piece screams dominance. Fantastic job.

>>2146376
Yeah, that looks really great now, if I really have to nitpick, I would say that his legs looks a little bit short in comparison to the rest of his body, mainly closet shin.

>>2146436
Nice correction. It definitely looks more elegant, but it was a personal choice to make his legs shorter.

>>2146439
Damn, the more I look at it, the more I prefer your version over mine.

>>2146435
Why the rings?

>>2146435
aaaaaauch

>>2146296
thanks for taking the time to write all this. I actually have an update picture where I've went back a little more into the stick figure. I've extended her torso abit as well.

I've also taken the liberty of including the reference I'm using.

>>2146269
The arm as always been throwing me because it's not there in the reference at all.

I thought it would be a nice thing to try to deviate some things from the reference.

I do have some updates from it if you'd care to take a look.

>>2146455
I like jeffr

>>2146500
>dat ref

>>2146552
Lovin it

>>2146324
>tracing
>ever

>>2146553
i hate to admit I had to look up "horse sex" on bing to find reference for it.
It's another reason why I'm trying to get better at art so I can construct things better in my head without needing to look for stuff.

Maybe I'm getting somewhere, I shall go on.

more girls

>>2146500
Well, looking at the reference picture, side by side with your skeleton drawing, I can see where you're having problems, and I hope you can too. Your skeleton build, really doesn't make too much sense, and I'll talk you through it as much as I can.

Do you see, how on your skeletal build, you're putting way too many circle points in the horse's front left shoulder? Try to simplify that. Think of it more as a whole piece of meat- the form if you will, rather than circular points.

Try this. Instead of looking at the drawing as a skeleton, squint your eyes and look at your reference picture. Go ahead.

Do you see the negative space around it? If you do, you work better at drawing in negative space than you do in skeletal work. Now, that's not a bad thing by any means, but perhaps you'll feel more comfortable drawing shape, over form.

It's merely a suggestion and by no means is it a disrespect on the kind of work you're trying to accomplish, but I ask that you give it a try.

Your skeletal work will improve over time, and I encourage you to continue. Try drawing the shape, the negative space, if you can.

Kudos for posting your reference material side by side with your work. Most artists won't post their reference material next to their work in fear of being ostracized by the community, but the best way one can get an honest critique of their work, is to post what they're working with.

That way, we can see the reference material and compare, side by side, what your strengths are in using reference, and what your weaknesses are.

Your skeletal work is too complicated, so try to simplify it. Shape and form. Have at it.

>>2146513
And believe me, there's nothing wrong with deviating from your reference, but you need to learn the rules before you can break them.

Seeing as how you have mentioned an updated piece, I would be more than happy to look at your work and see the improvements you've made, and perhaps try to help you with any mistakes you can quickly rectify.

Again, and I'm assuming you're the same artist as the Female Centaur, posting reference material side by side with your work does not make you a weak artist. In fact, more artists should follow lead when asking for critiques of their work.

Does that make other artists, who don't post their reference material, any less? Of course not. Some of us have been in the art game for years, and certainly don't need to post such things out of respect to other artists.

But those interested in learning, especially those who don't quite have an idea of what to do, should be encouraged to do what you're doing.

I'll check this thread again when I can, and I would be more than happy to see what you've updated. Thank you.

>>2146614
I don't see a reason for you not to continue, your artwork is lovely.

To answer your question however, you say you're getting somewhere. Where do you want to go?

>>2146693
thanks bby, I've never sketched like this before I was surprised, I usually spend hours trying to make single lines like this >>2146435
>make single line
>Nah delete it
>make single line
>Nah delete it
>make single line
>it's ok I guess...

But this messy approach helps me imagine the idea better as I draw, It's like:
>TATATATATTAAT
>BONER GUIDE MY PEN

>>2146674
What you see is me building from previous critques. Please allow me to show you my very first roughs of this picture. I always keep alot of layers just for this reason.

In terms of drawing shape over form, im always worried about contour drawing, so I thought that building the skele-structor from a reference picture would help me better understand said reference and build a visual library. I'm always worried that I'll become too heavily reliant on reference .

I do feel alittle confortable drawing shapes over the inner bones.
But I'll try it your way, and report back to you here or maybe on the next porn thread.

Finished. Thanks for all the help guys.

>>2146802
10

>>2146802
this is just sexy. Good job.

>>2146802
leave horo alone you fuck

>>2146802
expression looks like he's in pain, i dunno
rest is great though

>>2147058
No matter how much I look at his face, I really can't see pain in his expression.

>>2147058
>>2147059
I see exhaustion.

>>2147058
>>2147127
I see people unable to read facial expressions.