/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

My journals, winsor newton cotman water colors(I actually bought these for 50$) and some cheaper oil and chalk pastels I got from school.

I wish I could steal copics. They're always locked in the cases.

>>2136077
They have them out in the open at the store I got to. and there's cameras too, so I just grab handfuls and go to the child's craft section because there's no cameras there since no one's gonna steal fuckin' crayolas

>>2136076
>all dat canson
i hate you

>>2136080
If you ever try to sell any of your work I'm going to steal it from you, you piece of shit.

Did anyone here see the new Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee with Jim Carrey? Near the end they go to Jim's studio, where he paints a bunch of contemporary weird stuff. Not gonna lie, I was pretty impressed with his setup, like it had awesome light, a maaaassive table overflowing with paint tubes, tons of prepped canvases etc. It's what happens when you want to start up a hobby and have millions to spare.

Why do you shoplift OP? are you some kind of nigger?

OP why the fuck doesn't any of your gear appear very used? I mean try keeping a tube of oil paint clean, shit doesn't happen.

So not only do you steal, you're not creating. Faggot.

>>2136449
YouTube link?

>>2136477
http://comediansincarsgettingcoffee.com/jim-carrey-we-love-breathing-what-youre-burning-baby

>>2136478


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>2136065
Wal-Mart for basics isn't completely horrible except the paints. Brushes, pencils, and other miscellaneous items.

>>2136065
>not going digital
Only plebs are doing traditional these days.

>>2136767
>plebs
>half the working illustrators in the field
>all fine artists
>most hobbyists

>>2136785
Yes, most people are plebs, your point?

>>2136789
You do realize plebs are the bottom tier in terms of wealth and education and whatnot. You can't have 95% be plebs.

>>2136795
You can, because art is difficult and a really smart part can grasp it.

>>2136587
all that paintttttt

>>2136065
Where did you steal dem copics

>>2136474
I use mostly my copic markers, colored pencils, and my tablet. Painting is some thing I have to git gud at still, and I don't have canvases cause those are pretty hard to steal. my plan ws gathering up all the art supplies I could need so I could do whatever when I wanted. No excuses though, I'm gonna paint today.

>>2136634
I'm actually really pleased with how big the selection of art supplies walmart carries nowadays. Had I been purchasing my supplies I would have gone to walmart.

>>2136952
>20x6ft ft roll of duck canvas: 50$
>Fuck ton of surveyor boards at Rona: 1.5$/7ft

That's everything you need for 20 small-midsize canvas that are built like brick shithouses. And those big honking tubes for 20$ will last you a month or two. Much longer then it takes to sell a painting.

Also: Karma man.

>>2137209
I'll keep that in mind when getting some canvas material.
I DID paint today, but I fucking forgot my white paint while getting ready to go to a friend's place, so I just dealt with it. It's oil paint so I can come back to it.

>>2136065
Any tips for stealing large tubes?
Do you use a backpack or something?

>>2136065
Where do you steal these things from

>>2136810

Is the brand good quality paint though?

>>2137623
Golden Acrylics are a pretty good quality paint. I don't dab in Acrylics much but I only hear good things about them.

>>2137580
I stole and sometimes still steal a lot of paint from Hobby Lobby. I was scared the first few times, because they had one camera in their paint isle, but I just turn my back to it, grab the ones I'm looking at, hide and/or pocket them.

I also sometimes steal brushes from them if I need a few.

The only reason I steal from Hobby Lobby, is because they lost $120 of mine when I tried making a return.

Not OP, also

Hello help plz, I want a pad of off white paper. so I can draw shadows and highlights
like peter han uses

but I cant find anything, im in the uk btw.

>>2137847
look in the scrapbook section instead of sketchbook, they often have good quality off white paper scrapbooks, that's what steve huston uses

>>2136065

>>2137856
Here it is in smaller size

>>2137844
I've never stolen anything before... I mean maybe on accident from college... I'm too nervous I'll probably just end up buying them :c

>Proud of stealing

>>2136767
Yeah, no. Printed paintings still look awful, unless you're going for the extreme plastic look they have. Digital still has a shitload of problems when trying to imitate some mediums, like watercolour.

Having the only copy of a piece of art still has more value than probably all the the digital art it'll be produced through this entire year maybe even more.

Material costs for traditional are always pilling up and are not cheap, imagine every time you finish a piece and start a new one it's up to 10+ dollars in supplies, imagine every brain fart you do, costs more money than digital.
>inb4 eletricity
Even considering eletricity, an artists can easily spend 500+ dollars a year. In 2 years it's more than a cheap setup + eletricity for digital.

Digital has an entry fee of about 1700 obamas or less (a good computer + tablet or drawing monitor + cheap laptop), hell you can do it with 550 obamas (50 for the tablet + 500 or less for a good /g/ computer).

Seeing that way, digital is the pleb's choice, the pleb who has no money to invest in infinite supplies.

>all these flawless or never opened supplies

Damn.

>>2138023
That's why it's a supplies thread and not an art thread, this is their achievements. The same people are the ones ranting about supplies in the other threads instead of creating art

>>2138023
>Open paint bag
>Rainbow and oil stains everywhere
>Palette finally covered in rock hard layer of smooth paint
>Clothes covered in rainbow
>Iambecomeart

This is all I need to own you guys when it comes to drawing.

OP I bet you can't even paint worth shit.

>>2138398
Of course he can't. Should he be decent technically his art will never have the strength of character that has its font from Justice in the Soul. There was a time when Virtue defined an artist as well as his work, which ran parallel to it.

>>2138397
Sup hobbyist

>>2138397
pretensious cunt

>>2136071
>Grill
>Thief

Checks out.

>materials matter fuck all compared to the hands that use them
>people like frazetta used the most vile cheap shit and got tremendous results
>have about $200 worth of material under utilized when all I really like drawing with is .5 mm red lead via Zebra M-301

time to kill myself

>parents bought me a full studio kit that actually came with a lot of really nice materials last Christmas
>only ever use the collection of 4B-6B pencils

>>2136065
r u a black?

>>2139018
Didn't notice that OP might be a girl. That explains the copics and colored pencils. I've met quite a few thieving girls myself. The ones I've met seem to have no shame in their vice and talk about it openly.

I thought someone into animation just might be expected more to thieve since they usually go about their business willy nilly, following their desires.

>>2136065

Man thats pretty scummy OP, anyone who would steal art supplies and brag about it probably has a poor work ethic. You got some real bad karma.

Posted this in another thread. I'm also poor, but that doesn't stop me from saving up for nice things.

>>2136065
I hope you get caught and you rot in jail you filthy dirty thief. No offense though it's just my opinion. Have nice day.

>>2139991
>>2139991
>no offense

As someone who has to save a lot for their materials: Fuck you, OP. I bet you're one of these lifter tards that steals Copics to use them on Coloring Books.

>>2139945
>Roting mechanical pencils
Good taste, anon.

>>2140118
>Pentel P200s

You too, anon. I use that P209 more than I do the Rotrings. I have most of the other drafting pencils Pentel has made, but they're still my favorite over the fancier ones.

>>2140126
I wanted to save for these Rotings (I have the 2.0 one, but I really loved the Pentel Graph 600 Drafting Pencils and use them instead.

>>2136065
As someone that personally had their entire collection of copics stolen, this hits home for me. I hope you get caught, OP, but I know you wont because people like you get away with that shit.

>>2140166
how it got stolen?

>>2138397
sample or have your asshole own that 2b, you chump

>>2136076
I think we have the same watercolour set but I like yours better. Did it come with half pans or did you refill it yourself? I prefer halves to full ones so I use my smaller set more.

>>2136065
>stealing
>muh

Finally found out what kind of person brough "muh x" to this board.

>>2137906
Relax most people only steal small things they can nab quickly
Things that people even miss or won't care about losing. Like if there's a big crate of art supplies for a school they're not gonna care if a couple of pencils go missing.

I however stole a toolbox of someones art kit for art class once. Got sum dank stuff atleast $100 worth

>>2136065
As I search for my art supplies, I have 1 kit that I could not find! I think it may have been stolen, but I missplace things sometimes.
So if you are saying "It pays to be good at stealing", then did you turn these supplies into works that you sold and lined your bank account?

>>2136065
>mfw I steal a kneadable eraser everytime I go to my art store

Thanks for inspiring me, OP

>>2139018
Sorry bro. But I'm not OP. Separate Anon here.

>mfw i steal /fit/ supplies everytime i shop but can't steal art supplies

>>2136065
>>2140904
>stealing art supplies
fucking teenagers. most art stores are mom-and-pop type businesses without much of a profit margin, whose employees are part of the local artistic community.

>>2141089
>most art stores are mom-and-pop type businesses
Source? All the ones in my city are big chains. But yeah, still a dick move to steal regardless.

>>2141089
The only thing I've stolen from art stores are those little plastic tubes that are placed on brushes to protect the bristols on cheap brushes. It's pretty hard finding plastic tubing that'll fit on my brushes.

>>2137847
I found a place actually as i was looking for the exact same thing for that the other day - im also in the uk - it took me a good few hours to find it, but it has amazing prices on everything, shipping is only about £4 to the mainland, and for the international folks, they also ship overseas but seriously super cheap!! Heres the link and happy shopping !!

brown paper books - http://www.pullingers.com/c/1394/papers-card-boards/sketch-books/seawhite-eco-kraft-sketch-book/

homepage - http://www.pullingers.com/

>>2138397
what am i to do with just a pencil, im sure you may also need some surface in which said pencil could transfer its pigment to no? Or do you just do magictard shit and draw floating dicks in the air?

you pretentious cunt.

>>2141089
>most art stores are mom-and-pop type
Dick Blick isn't mom-and-pop shit.

>>2137906
Great artists steal

>>2136065
Windsor Newton oils are absolute shit.,.

>>2140183
Stolen by my sister that doesn't even draw, just traces shit.

>>2136446
"good artists borrow, great artists steal"

>>2141270
If you know where it is and who has it; it's not truly stolen.

Now go and crack some skulls.

>>2141212
If that shop is cheap there, then the UK is a pretty expensive place, at least for pens and pencils. Pentel is generally 1/3 - 1/2 cheaper in Germany. USA, too. My guess the same goes for Japan itself.

The paper itself is cheap, probably because it is made in the UK. The brand seems to pretty rare outside the UK.

>>2137847
What about kraft/brown/wrapping paper directly? Or is it not the same? I remember it being pretty cheap in large batches if you avoid the novelty art suppliers.

>>2137525
Okay so how I did it was I bought a large sheet of water color paper, and then walked around the store with it, and the paper curled to the shape of the bag, and at that point you just gotta be sneaky and position yourself so the store camera's only see your back as you slip the paints into your bag. the water color paper covers up the contents of the bag,
>>2137580
Michaels

>>2137860
fuckin niiiice

>>2140433
Yeah I got the half pans

I don't think stealing is all that bad, because who the fuck cares? If I can't afford to purchase a lot of things because of many factors, what am I gonna do? Sit around and make due with pencils and a few cheap colored pencils? Fuck no, I don't give a fuck if it hurts the company because they have enough money as it is and Michael's is a shitty company anyhow.
I work hard enough to feed myself and provide for myself and family, so if I want to go out and take shit, oh well. That's what I'll do.
If I get caught, then I'll have to suck it up and deal with the consequences.

>>2141402
>I work hard enough to feed myself and provide for myself and family

>If I get caught, then I'll have to suck it up and deal with the consequences.

...

>>2141446
family as in not kids, siblings.

>>2141449
are you an adult? I could see stealing petty shit when you're a kid but having that on your record as an adult can close a lot of doors.

>>2141402
Here's a fun fact: it doesn't really hurt the company. It hurts the employees at that particular store. The CEO of whatever doesn't give a fuck and isn't affected by it at all.

Any person who worked in retail will tell you this. The amount of losses (stolen, lost product, etc) is actually all recorded and that store and its workers pay for it, whether it's losing their weekly coffee or shit like losing hours or getting laid off if it's really bad.

So yes, you're supposed to make due with what you have, you entitled cunt. You're not hurting the company, you're hurting people who have to make a living on their own as well.

>>2139025
> used the most vile cheap shit and got tremendous results
This. Even being economical can save a lot.

>>2141920
quickfix

>>2141920

>unopened cotman pans

Hobbyists

>>2141920
Rotation keeps messing out.

>>2138397
you're like me

>>2138929
Hi

Any recommendations on colored pencils?

I just bought a pack of the prismacolor watercolor pencils. They seem very neat and id like to use them a little more, has anyone here used them? What do you find they are best for? As well as does anyone have any tips or tricks they could share? thanks!

>>2141471
this tbh

>>2143368

Post in the watercolour thread not the thief thread

So we can agree /ic/ hates thieves, right?

>>2141402
You ignorant bastard, just because you feel entitled to "better" supplies doesn't give you a right to steal it. Besides that I'm sure what you stole didn't magically make you a better artist. Hope you look at this drawing done with Crayola markers and feel like the piece of shit you are.

>>2136065
It looks like you don't use your supplies much, so why steal in the first place? Kleptomania?

>>2141471
That isn't true in the slightest my NEET friend.

The employees only pay when their register is short on cash. Not when the store is short on inventory.
If it becomes very serious, the manager and district manager check the cameras in the area of the store with the most-stolen items. (If their net amount of paintbrushes remaining does not match their paintbrush sales, they video-check the paintbrush aisle for any suspicious activity).
If it's always a certain brand of item and they are unable to identify any suspects, the store will simply move the items to a more secure spot, purchase more cameras that will help catch/prevent any thieves, or they will outright quit ordering the item.

The employees couldn't possibly care less if you stole something, so long as it is out of their sight and any potential blame is waived due to their unawareness.

and some cheap waterpaint if I'm feeling really fancy

>>214352

Good artists copy, great artists steal

>>2143100
OK, I gotta say I'm mirin' your setup. Full set of Rapidographs, brush pens, watercolors, etc. You've got your bases covered. 10/10

>>2143897

>>2143919
How good are those rapidographs? Because this chick I went to art school had them but she only copied greeting cards and shit. Could have gotten the same result with a ball-point pen the way she was using them.

>>2144074
For their intended purpose (making lines of constant width on good paper) they're as good as they come. They're temperamental, though; you have to use them close to perpendicular to the page, clean them regularly, and they leak if you bang them around. There's a good reason they aren't as common as they used to be when engineers used them for technical drawings. Most of the time I prefer a felt-tip pen.

>>2143919
Thanks!

>>2141925
better than stealing markers for nothing
>>2143536
bullet quality wins in the end.
>>2143368
draw colors, wet brush, draw brush, = instant watercolors. Cons: Mixing colors requires crosshatching.

>>2136604
>buying a pose thing

>>2141402
>I don't think stealing is all that bad, because who the fuck cares?
THE PEOPLE WHO'S LIVELIHOOD YOU'RE HURTING.
>If I can't afford to purchase a lot of things because of many factors, what am I gonna do?
YOU GET A GODDAMN JOB SO YOU CAN PAY FOR YOUR THINGS LIKE AN ADULT YOU SELFISH LITTLE SHIT.
>Fuck no, I don't give a fuck if it hurts the company because they have enough money as it is and Michael's is a shitty company anyhow.
IT DOESN'T HURT THE COMPANY AS A WHOLE, IT HURTS THE EMPLOYEES. DO YOU THINK SO MIDDLE MANAGER IS GOING TO TAKE A PAY CUT OR GET THEIR SHIT KICKED IN BECAUSE OF THEFT? YEAH NO. IT ALSO HURTS THE COSTUMERS BECAUSE THEN PRICES ARE RAISED TO COMPENSATE FOR THEFT BY DICKBAGS LIKE YOURSELF WHO CAN'T THINK ABOUT ANYONE BEYOND THEMSELVES.
>I work hard enough to feed myself and provide for myself and family, so if I want to go out and take shit, oh well. That's what I'll do.
I FEEL BAD FOR YOUR FAMILY, THEY DESERVE BETTER THAN YOU. CAN'T WAIT UNTIL YOUR WIFE DIVORCES YOU AND TAKES YOUR KIDS AWAY.
>If I get caught, then I'll have to suck it up and deal with the consequences.
I REALLY HOPE YOU DO. MAYBE THEN YOU'LL GROW THE FUCK UP.

>>2136604
what the actual fuck, absolutely none of this has been used

>>2137847
Daler Rowney Earthbound sketchbooks

I don't think stealing is all that bad, because who the fuck cares? If I can't afford to purchase a Ferrari because I'm an entitled cunt, what am I gonna do? Sit around and make due with walking and taking public transport? Fuck no, I don't give a fuck if it hurts the company because they have enough money as it is and Ferrari is a shitty company anyhow.
I work hard enough to feed my nicotine and alcohol addiction, so if I want to go out and take shit, oh well. That's what I'll do.
If I get caught, then I'll have to suck a dick.

>>2144706
yea I found some thanks. also Strathmore toned sketchbook.

>>2141366
I have some brown parcel paper but its too thin. it doesn't lay flat and stiff like paper.


>>2141212
says its ribbed for your pleasure anon.

I did found this one http://www.artdiscount.co.uk/paper-board/pads/eco-friendly-pads/cachet-earthbound-recycled-sketchbook.html

same thing but ribless I think

thanks for help ppl

I actually just bought a toned sketchbook, but the white pen I bought sucks (it says opaque but the damn thing has horrible coverage, I have to go over it multiple times for it to actually show). You guys got any suggestions for good white pens?

Cheaper is better, but so long as it's good and under $12 I'll be happy.

Is make due some kind of shitty meme?

It is make do, for the love of fuck.

>>2146942
Pretty sure other anons are as confused as i was.

>translation:
Is making due with what you have some kind of thing people actually look down upon? It shouldn't be because you do need to make the best with the things you can afford, even if it means stealing. Fuck.

>>2146599
Better off using a white ink with dip pen or fine for tip brush

Getting into oil painting but I have a few questions. Ive got basically everything, just the minor details bug me so far.
>I need a good standing easel, anyone have any suggestions?
>Paint thinner. Do I dip my brushes to clean, then rinse again and again and keep going til theyre clean? What do when the paint thinner color changes? Right now ive got a big jar of orange/purple water and sediment at the bottom
>Best paint/set for price? My budgets kind of low but I already burned a lot of my 12piece Reeves on just tests

silver sharpie

>>2147311
You can technically paint without paint thinner. You might, however, need more brushes and be more conscious of what colors you have on your brushes. Even for cleaning my brushes after painting sessions, I only use the oil-cleaner hand soap. I have a small cup, fill it with some water, wet the bristles, lather up a foam on the bristles, and swish in this cup, or on the palm until all color is gone. Wear rubber gloves if you're working with toxic pigments, or to prevent the skin on your palm from damage (especially if you're using hard bristles).

From my experience, relying too much on the paint thinner can destroy the bristles. During painting session, what you can do is have paper towels near by that you would wipe the excess off on after having swished the brush a bit. You might purchase a jar specifically made for solvents with a coil, or make some sort of suspended disk of metal with punched holes in it (with the sharp protrusions pointing down), and the pigments and oil will settle at the bottom. You can also use a sponge. Keep in mind that using a brush on a coarse surface will destroy the bristle over time. When it, the thinner, becomes dirty, let it sit, and the heavier more corporeal matters having settled at the bottom, transfer the rarer spirit to another jar, and clean out the lutum that have settled at the bottom of your alchemical flask.

>>2146599
Uniball Signo white gel pen is worth a try.

>>2139106
lol

>>2147411
Very, very much appreciated thank you.

>>2147492
Would clarify that you only really need to clean out the spirit when it starts to affect your fresh paints. You're likely only only going to be having a very small amount of it in the brush and worked up in the paint when applying to canvas, and at such a small amount (most people wipe most of the spirit off when applying new paint unless they're using it a wash as in under drawing with a brush), the spirit is nearly transparent. It might look dirtier than it is in the jar because of how much of it your sight has to pass through.

Would also clarify that the sponge goes on the bottom of the jar to wipe your brush on, although having thought now you can devise some way to have it stick to the side of a jar, the sediments will fall more on the bottom of the jar and still be able to wipe your brush in the sponge that's submerged in the spirit.

The bottom of a soda can if it can fit inside the jar, with holes punched through, can also work.

>>2136065
This is my porn

I...I use all of it.

>>2148739
To add a little info, closest box is full of acrylic and oil paints, far box is airbrush, (airbrush machine not shown).
Copics were bought with a scholarship I won, I'm not a rich fag.

noob here, where can i get the cheapest 2mm lead? and does the brand matter?

Not pictured are my paint brushes and my Liquitex painting mediums set (never used...).

I'm a bit of a sketch/drawing bookfag. Just can't stop getting new ones.

>>2150891
>faber-castell colored pencils

any good? I use their ink pens and they're absolutely lovely

>>2150895
My mom bought me the 120color pencils set for my birthday a year ago, they are very good, rich pigment as well!

>>2150895
What I have are the watercolor pencils . I'm really curious about their "standard" color pencils as well.

I think their watercolor pencils work great. I did a swatch of them over here >>2150438 and pic related is a sample of something I did with them.

>>2150891
>Just can't stop getting new ones.
I have the same problem, I just love getting new ones and trying them out. The only issue is if you end up disliking the sketchbook you end up with a charcoal pad with only one page filled taking up space. Except it's twelve sketchpads.

>>2150891


What is that little brown suitcase?

>>2151231
A while ago /ic/ had supplies talk thread where someone recommended pic related. Holds about 2-3 letter sized sketchbooks and a few supplies. Handy for "the field" and functional, but the closure clasps are somewhat clunky.

WAT tool did u get that changed your life most?

I-I hope i'm not triggering anybody

Someone please link me to a decent refillable pocket brush/fude pen. I see them ranging from like $5 to $60 a piece and I have no idea what the difference is.

I have no intention of buying their refill cartridges. Would India ink be alright to refill one with, or would that clog up the end? Do I need like waterproof calligraphy ink or would cheapo speedball super black do the trick?

>>2137856
What are those things that look like pregnancy tests? I'm assuming markers, but you can never be too sure.

>>2152762
Get this brush pen. It has sable hair, and very nice ink flow. This pen is my baby.
I never put india ink in my pens, but I do use noodler inks which are cool, and comes in many different colors

>http://www.jetpens.com/Kuretake-No.-40-Fountain-Hair-Brush-Pen-Sable-Hair-Refill/pd/3958

>>2152851
Thank you. I've been looking for one the past few days now that I've finally got my dip pen technique to a place I'm content with. This thread couldn't have come along at a better time.

>>2152851
Is the only difference between that one and pic related on Amazon just the sable versus nylon?

>>2152994
Forgot pic.

>>2152994
yep