/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>sign studies
>use studies as "progress" on a progress chart

>anime

I used to think that I was the best artist ever because people told me I was talented when I was at school, then later I discovered the internet, it was a punch in my cocky face, does this counts as delusional?

>I sell portraits for a living

>>2137922
>on the beach

>>2137887
I don't know if it's delusional, but if something doesn't look right after 5 seconds I throw it out and start over.

>>2137889
>take picture of your study with drawing utensils next to it at an angle.
>screenshot your digital drawing with photoshop showing to make you look "artsy"

>he grids pictures when drawing a portrait
>while on the canteen
>in front of his customer
>draws grid over his impressed customer photo in front of her.
>he's proud of it

>>2137929
>with the easel facing the beach
>catching all the waters from the beach
>charges 40$ for his work

>>2137934
>human copy machine
>don't know how to draw from imagination
>think he's good

Oh boy, this thread has potential

>>2137887

this thread hurts because i am a delusional artist.

>>2137943
>tfw delusional artist
>still can't think of a funny greentext

>stop attacking me saying I can't draw
>you don't understand
>It's just my style!

>>2137936
>god gave me this talent, that's why i'm gifted
>still drawing symbols
>chicken scratch everywhere
>charges 150$ for his work
>client is pleased

>>2137963
...How is that delusional? He got paid.

>thinks hes doing a good job with his gestures
>still can't FEEL the flow
>doesn't realize he needs to find his own way of feeling it

>she spends her whole time drawing in adventure time art style
>Claims she is unique

>talking to a cousin about art school
>"art school is for faggots"
>suddenly I remember he went to an art school years ago
>he failed art school
>he fucking FAILED art school

>>2137978
People that fail at art school really are the laziest and greatest slobs on earth.
The thing is that they usually get super-butthurt over it

>this thread
reality hurts

>>2137887
>bu-but its my style

>Doesn't know which shade of graphite they are using, it's "just a pencil"
>Uses cheap watercolour paper for coloured pencil manga drawings because it's "quality" being thick and textured
>Uses cheap BIC coloured pencils and thinks they are artist quality
>Buys only one grey coloured Copic marker for shading on drawings
>Doesn't even know what kind of technical pen they are using for lining
>Didn't know pen nibs came in any other size but 1.0
>"My comic is messed up because I'm messed up. You gotta remember that I created my characters, so they are all a part of me. So the character with split personalities came out of my brain so I could have split personalities too."
>Cross hatches with every medium for shading, can't blend with any other method.
>Draws adventure time, mario and pokemon "Their style is like mine, so I can draw it really easily. It's cool having an affinity like that."
>"Yeah, I can't draw realism."

This is all based on true experiences last week.

>>2137978
you know who's famous guy that failed art school? Hitler. Your cousin is literally Hitler.

>my styles meant to be sketchy and crazy
>i dont need fundamentals cause im not a noob i go to art school
>noobs are people who trace and use MSPaint instead of photoshop so im not a noob

>>2138022
>Thinks his tools make him a good artist

>>2137887
a lot of people sign their drawings get over your own inaptitude

>>2137933
hits so close to my heart anon
why
w h y

>Don't reblog/repost!!
>Art thieves are literally Hitler!
>I quit because people keep stealing my art!
>Excessive watermarks

>Takes commissions for fanart

Don't be this kind of faggot, friends. I don't even care about fanartists taking coms for fanart, but goddamn.

>>2138054

>think digital is better than traditional
>can't draw shit without ctrl + z

>>2138178
>Hanging with digitalfag drawing in downtime at work
>I'm really good with my tablet
>Chicken scratch and eraser everywhere
>tripod grip
>anime eyes
>no volume

>>2138043
I have known too many people like this.

>drawing of a character in a setting
>2000 word explanation of "what it means"

>>2138307
oh god i hate this

shut up about your picture just post your picture

>practices less than 2 hours a day
>wonders why improvement is nil

>multi-paragraph speech about dweams

>>2138022
Frazetta colored his works with Mickey Mouse tier materials.

>>2138324
Frazetta was a hardass.

>doesn't have a sketchbook dedicated to drawing circles

>>2138319
>tfw practicing thirty minutes a day
shit

>>2138342
>three separate sketchbooks dedicated to drawing ellipses

>>2138039
Hitler couldn't even get into art school.
He's not even close to being as much of a failure as hitler.

>>2138319
>Spend 5 hours painting today
>2 hours stretching canvas
>3 hours the day before, plien air at Jazz Festival
>4 the day before at jazz fest
>Working 8hours tomorrow, drinking with boys and hitting Jazz festival with easel
>Paint all over apartment
>Accidently swigged the turps

Boys, what the fuck is this feel.

>This guy was very nice
>He was the "artist" of the class because he drew a lot
>Always draw his self insert in an post apocalypse settings
>Could be better, got sometrouble with proportion but doesnt seems to care
>Everyone praise him
>Say he was gifted
>Pic related

At least he is having fun drawing

>believes that a mere fact of spending time on art resources will increase his skill

>>2138429
>believes that reference is cheating
>wonders why he don't improve shit

>>2138549
>uses reference
>gets jelly on people who don't

>>2138400
Jesus, I have never seen so many wrinkles on clothes before. Is that even possible?

>signs his work
Cute.

>>2138307
There is too fucking much of this on dA. It certainly factors into why the site has such terrible 'artists'.

>>2138186
>tripod grip

What's wrong with the good old tripod grip? every artist I see uses this or the overhand grip which is only good when you're working on a massive scale.

>>2138565
Because it strains the wrist/hand. It's not good to do for long periods of time.

Personally I'm trying to stop using that grip. I've already set off some swelling of the fingers in my dominant hand, and I just don't want it to get worse from here.

>ignores critique
>ignores art teachers
>muh style
>thinks galleries reject her work because they are all modern art snobs

>>2138578
Okay, but what other grips are you using instead? The only one I know is the overhand grip but that is pretty clumsy and impractical for doing any details when working on a small tablet sized A4 scale.

>>2138580
My god you just described my sister

>Girl in class draws the same animu character in the same pose over and over again
>Gets praised for it by her pleb friends
>Sees me drawing some coats hanging on the door
>"Lol Anon that's so random! Why are you drawing that???"
>She thinks I'm weird and goes back to drawing her sameface
animu.
>Never draws anything else
>Never progresses

>>2138603

>not drawing 'good' anime to impress her
>not banging her box after
>being a literal faggot
Oh, you're one of those fags who think the style is easy but refuse to draw it to prove otherwise.

>>2137933
>take picture of your study with drawing utensils next to it at an angle.

I hate that shit.

>>2138022
this much irony must leave a metallic taste in your mouth anon, surely.

>>2138022
>>"My comic is messed up because I'm messed up. You gotta remember that I created my characters, so they are all a part of me. So the character with split personalities came out of my brain so I could have split personalities too."
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>think that i am special all my life
>realize im beyond saving after starting neeting
>have to prove myself to the world so i can take my inner special outside
>with animeation
at least i got a feeling for movement if not for interesting designs. Just got to nail down that movement. Got to make it look realistic, yet fun to watch.
After all jack of all things master of nothing right? Its better if im pretty decent at one thing and shit at the others r-right guys? Right?

>>2137909
you were misinformed, but if you were delusional you would have denied that you weren't hot shit, and would remain trapped in your hug bubble to this day.

>>2137968

The artist is delusional for thinking they're good.

The client is delusional for thinking said shitty art is good, although to a lesser degree, since most people don't have an eye to spot symbol drawing etc.

>>2138342
>>2138358

I just use the previous days sketched on pages to draw ellipses, reduce reuse recycle amirite

>digital illastration
>flat but not terrible
>HUGE fucking john handcock on the right hand side of every fucking pice, stylized with a star.


I puke a little when I see this.

>>2138383

turpentine poisoning, duh

>>2138675
I never draw circles/elipses. Does that make me delusional?

>>2138678

Drawing circles and ellipses and straight lines freehand lets you build up muscle memory faster, which makes your strokes and lines much more confident. It also teaches you to draw from your shoulder and elbow more than your wrist, and does a bunch of other stuff. Plus it's a good warmup if you're struggling with just jumping onto a new drawing.

>some idiot who calls himself an artist draws only one eye
>OMG WHY CAN'T I DRAW THE OTHER ONE???? ART FEELS AM I RIGHT??
>fuckers don't know construction and proportions

gets me every time

>>2137933
>>take picture of your study with drawing utensils next to it at an angle

I do this for instagram. Thats what people like. No ragrets

>>2137939
>>human copy machine
>>don't know how to draw from imagination
>>think he's good

That was me up until like year ago. I didn't think I was the best, tho. I just thought I was better than most people. I am, but most suck (including me) so it means nothing.

>>2138057
>>Takes commissions for fanart
Uhh, money is money bruh. If people want me to draw Gumball in diapers being burped by his mom and pay me $60 I'm gonna do it.

>>2138186
>>tripod grip
Someone doesn't draw enough and thinks that the "writing" grip is wrong.

Heres one
>visits this thread, thinks hes not one of the delusional ones.

>>2138706
>>visits this thread, thinks hes not one of the delusional ones.
Word.
I love you /ic/

>see that the truth is real
>hides this thread
>keep being delusional and denying reality

>explain to the family why he's an amazing artist
>uncle praizes him
>can't draw with people watching him because "you're blocking my creativity"

>>2138706
I have no problem with fanart coms. I do, however, think it's delusional to bitch about art theft (90% of the time 'posting without permission', 10% 12 year olds recoloring for roleplays) while making money off someone's IP.

One of these things are more art theft then the other lol

>>2138319
When you say two hours, do you mean two hours of literal pencil to paper focused work, or just 2 hours set aside where you draw for most of it? Like two Manic Time hours?

>Ask someone how long they've been drawing
>"All my life"

>>2137996
The line quality and anatomy could be better but I actually like this.

>>2137978
I failed cause I was a sack of lazy shit.

>>2138776
>>Ask someone how long they've been drawing
>>"All my life"
Fuck that's me. My only excuse is I don't know when i started drawing so I just give a vague answer like that

>>2138776

>Ask someone how long they've been drawing
>"All my life"

some of us actual have, though
fucking casual

>>2138043
jesus fucking christ

>>2138794
Technically, that's impossible. Baby brains take a while to gain enough dexterity to hold a pencil.

Less technically, everyone's drawn since they were kids. There's nothing special about drawing when you're under 10.

Even less technically, people that like to draw usually don't take it seriously until they finally hit a particular milestone in their life. They decide 'I'm going to become an artist', so they start doing studies and drawing daily. That's the point you 'start drawing'. If you say 'all my life', you probably haven't hit that 'start taking it seriously' point, so you THINK you're an artist but don't actually commit like one. Not always true ofc, there's lots of artists who really did grow with their craft, but more often then not, the people that say this are idiots thinking that because they drew in middle/highschool, they're artists.

>trading skill for getting into a musem

>>2138817

>There's nothing special about drawing when you're under 10.

why not

>>2137969
underrated post

>>2138830
so pretty much all art majors?

>>2138838
exactly anon, exactly

>>2138832
Now I feel bad lol I shouldn't have used 'special', shoulda said something like 'unique'. Kids usually start trying to draw realistically around 10 and then most kids 'give up' drawing around early puberty. So, the decision to continue drawing is the 'real' beginning of someone who draws as a hobby/career/wutev.

Everyone drew up until puberty. Nothing all that unique about having drawn as a kid (unless you're picasso-tier, pic was when he was 12/13)

>>2138897
oh and this is a fun thing to look at for anyone interested;
http://www.learningdesign.com/Portfolio/DrawDev/kiddrawing.html

Tracing...
>>>/d/6258753

>>2138044
This. Used to sit beside a guy in class like this, he brought in fucking $20 "Smudgers", literally just shitty rubber you stick on the end of your pencil. He brought in fountain pens, expensive as fuck pencil grips, fucking PROTRACTORS and goddam did he suck. I wasn't sure whether to laugh or feel sorry for him when he was failed half way through the course, that class was his last chance saloon for school.

>>2138676
*Illustration

>>2138951
I read this a lot on /ic/, students failing art classes. Even if your in a decent artschool, your portfolio got you in; how could one suck so bad they get kicked out?

>this thread
bingo, lads..

>>2138998
>didnt get trips

>see this thread
>everyone is describing me

feels bad man

>>2138984
The muh style disease man

>those people that try to be like their favorite artist and copy them
>ONLY use them as reference, being a shit clone of them

>>2138984
>portfolio

A lot of art schools will take subpar portfolios and you can still get passing grades with bad work. The teachers will just tell you that you're bad and why and hope that you take that criticism and improve with the next assignment. In fact they prefer you go the 'muh style' route rather than churning out shit with bad anatomy (Source: me). You don't get failed for sucking, you get failed for not doing the work.

I had a girl in my class who in the second year was slated as "gonna make it" by the whole class. But her work was really detailed and time consuming. By the third year she was failing her GenEd classes, then turning in incomplete work to her illustration classes. Eventually she just dropped out.

>>2139610
My punishment shall be death

>>2139618
I was doing pretty good, even made it to dean's list at one point, but then I started working 3 jobs, changed majors that I ended up being weaker in, & then after a major loss I got depressed & stopped doing work. I got put on academic probation & then convinced myself to drop out my last year when I got sick.

It was rough and I wish I sought out help, but I understand why these things happen.

>>2139618
fuck. why not just tone down the detail and pass?

>>2139671
i see. i figuerd people were failing coz ther work was shit. i respect art but if a kid works hard and is paying to learn how to art then i would pass him/her if at least they tried.
i wish math classes where like art classes.

>>2139671
I'm sorry, anon. That would devastate me too, I hope you get through this okay.

>>2139672
or drop out, put time into your portfolio and get jobs because you're already amazing, not because you have a degree?

>thinking that graffiti is art
>goes to jail

kek

>>2138186
what is tripod grip

>>2139908

>>2139691

>>2139853
thinks that graffiti writers are interested in living a bourgeois life.

>>2140039
>implying they don't in mommies basement.

>>2137963
What do you mean by symbols? Please don't make fun of me for asking.

>>2140043
>implying all graffiti writers are underaged kids living in suburbs.

>>2140047
Drawing what you think rather than what you see. It's fucking bad if you have the subject in front of you.

>>2140047
Symbols meaning you aren't drawing what you see instead of what is really there. It's an observational drawing skill and there is nothing wrong with drawing iconic symbols. Mickey Mouse for example is all symbols.

If you want to read more about this it's in the stickey (Betty Edwards).

>>2140050
>>2140055
thanks pals!

>I'm going to draw anime so I just need to study anime
>I don't need to draw from life
>Because I'm going to draw
>Animuuuuuuuu ohayou gozaimasu x3333

I know it's been said in this thread a thousand times but it drives me up the fucking wall only because of how frequently I see it.

>>2140060
It's just as weird when it's a japanese guy sperging about murrican comic books style and rick and morty

>know a friend who mostly draws anime-ish girls
>wants to do more real drawings
>tell her to study more and look at reference
>says shes not good at copying from pictures
>give her resources
>she complains that she can't draw real
>repeat the cycle

>>2140086
punch her anon

>>2138583
Overhand/sideways for canvas. Loose underhand for brushes. I use tripod for sketching tiny details, but never when painting.

But A4 is fucking tiny, why would you do that D:

>>2140086
Why not combine the likeness

>>2138616

>anime is harder than realism

>>2140250
>refuses to draw anime to prove otherwise

I put together a few pictures of trends that in my opinion are the most uncreative pieces of shit ever put on canvas, and often has the most delusional artists.

>>2140313
>melting crayon thing

Ha! I was one of the arts and crafts instructors at a summer camp and we did that one day. It was pretty fun.

>>2138551
Literally all the old masters used reference

>>2140326
they're shit.

This is true fucking art right here lads!

>>2140047
>>2140050
>>2140055

unless you are doing a study drawing what you see is again bad, drawing what you see is a good skill which you need to learn, but so is drawing what you understand

>>2140313
Needs more shitty waifus, but I still agree 100%.

>>2138022
>having an affinity

>>2139674
>>i wish math classes where like art classes.
>art students take math classes
>don't know how to solve any problems
>just draw fancy and detailed numbers as answers
>they fail all tests but get passed anyways
>art students go into engineering and architecture
>some odd years later
>the year is 2020 year of hindsight
>buildings and bridges collapsing everywhere
>reporter interviews one of the architects
>architect proceeds to explain how the collapsing buildings represent the collapsing infrastructure of modern society
>death toll continues to rise

>>2137887
>Worrying about signing/not signing shit.
Why?
What's it to you?

>>2140313
that portrait in b&w is good tho(if not traced). its just the shitty watermark that ruins it

just asking, but is the bait of this thread, simply the irony that these examples are something EVERYONE does/has done before, in some way, shape or fashion, so everyone is delusional?

>>2137934

I thought there was something odd about being complimented for doing a perfect self-portrait when instructed to use a grid in high school. Even the teacher was impressed, but that may be because everyone else's gridded self-portraits somehow sucked.

>spending time online
>not drawing all the time

>using the word "commish" unironically.

>>2138676
What's worse is people signing with some abstract fucking symbol

>>2137887
>Draws in Sharpie.
>She sucks at drawing with a pencil, let alone a Sharpie.

>>2137887
>Shades by smudging graphite with a tissue.

>>2137887
>See a girl drawing shitty anime and taking reference from other anime.
"I don't think its really a good idea to take reference from anime. Draw from life, study anatomy, and take reference from actual photographs, and anime will come naturally as stylization."
>But I suck at drawing realistic...
"Well you'll always suck if you never make the effort to learn how."
>Yea but I like drawing anime.

>>2140428
>good
Fuck no, The values are nonexistent, shitty smudging all over, her shoulder is fucked up beyond recognition,
hair flow is also fucked and her skin texture looks like a mix of marble and white melted plastic.
I could put that into cringe thread and no one would question it. It only looks good to noobies and people who don't draw or paint because they always fucking think more small details = better.

>>2138753
I actually can't draw in front of people because I haven't really gotten good. I know they would still praise me because they don't know much better, but I don't want to be praised for shitty work.
Plus my hand starts to tremble from anxiety.

>Ignores critiques
>mah style!/ "I know I suck at drawing but I'll keep drawing it since its mah style!"
>Uses as excuses/samples other artist whose draws worse than her.
>"I'll critique your art/You should stop drawing stuff ANIMU and focus in other style because I said so".

I'm a beginner, and while I dont sign my studies, I date them. My reasoning is that as time goes on I can see how I am progressing, and what I need to improve.

Is this cringe?

>>2140835
no

>>2140835
do whatever you want anon. I wish I had put dates on my older drawings.

>>2140835
putting names is a good idea, but name... unless you're a kid...

>>2140277
This. I hate it when people think anime is easy mode and act like they're above it. Then you ask them to draw some and the results are hilarious.

>>2140313
thanks for the laugh anon
I needed this

It´s not really a habit, but it´s delusional anyway so storytime.

>visit art school, 2D and 3D stuff
>have a girl in class
>thinks she´s superior to everyone else, a real bitch
>even thinks she is better than the teachers, talks shit to them
>turns out she´s really fucking bad, incredibly bad
>pretty much everyone hates her

>draws something, asks me for critique
>tell her some things I´d change
>calls me an asshole behind my back for criticizing her

>have to animate a walkcycle for homework
>see she also uploaded one
>check it out
>walks like a crackhead having a very bad seizure
>she actually uploaded this for the teacher to grade

>after art school (she failed terribly)
>yeah I don´t really care, my parents paid for it
>gets a job
>gets fired after a few months
>gets another job, moves to another fucking country for it
>gets fired again after a few months

>stereotypical tumblrina
>female, bigender, gender fluid, pangender, two-spirit, according to her facebook profile
>claims to have seven personalities. Yes, seven.
>one is named after a pokemon, skaraborn
>writes lewd fanfiction about her personalities fucking each other

>mfw all of this

>>2141133
>one is named after a pokemon, skaraborn
lost

>>2141133
>female, bigender, gender fluid, pangender, two-spirit

>>2140594
you won't convince most people with arguments

>>2141133
>female, bigender, gender fluid, pangender, two-spirit, according to her facebook profile
This has to be a lie. Even labels-addict SJWs must know those things are mutually exclusive.
Also, is she white ? A white person can't call herself a two-spirit, I'm pretty sure that's cultural appropriation and SJWs claim to hate that shit.

>>2138400
B^U

>>2141152
What qualities makes something B^U exactly? I haven't seen enough of Fuckley's work to know much beyond the fact that he probably hasn't drawn anything of his own in years and uses photos as backgrounds in the webcomics

>>2137973
>she makes spray paint 'art' (planets and bad stencils) and has cotton candy colored hair
>her boyfriend suggested at one point that she sell her ovaries to attend a goddamn Art Institute

>>2140549
but my symbol is pretty cool

>mfw all of my drawing up to three years ago was mostly unfinished, poor sketches
>sketchbook after sketchbook filled with this shit
>and when I say filled, I mean each page sometimes has enough to cover 80%
>this somehow got me a reputation for being an artist among my high school peers

>I was the president of the art club on my last year and I barely really did fuck all
>I was so delusional that I seriously believed that the shitty rushed submission to the AP Art final would get me a 4 or a 5 (out of 5)
Looking back on that shit, they were fucking philanthropists to give me a 3, god damn. I don't know why I haven't gotten around to burning the things yet.

>the score actually legitimately made me depressed, and it took me months after high school to figure out what a fucking moron I am

now I can't value anything I do and it always surprises me when I win an award for whatever (which doesn't happen often anyway). If I could go back in time knowing what I know now... I always get a bit jealous when I see a teenager who has their shit together and isn't full of crap.

>>2141133
is she hot at least?

>>2140414
kek

>>2140086
maybe she wants you to dip yer brush in her

>>2141150
>YFW they use the "I'm 1/16 Cherokeee" card.

>>2140313
What's wrong with 1, 3 and 4? Legit question, I am a noob

>>2141232
>single drawn eye (always bad. dont do this.)
>part of face with kitsch watercolor splatters
>boring-as-shit copy of a picture of a pretty girl

>>2140313
I actually like 7 and 10, and the last one if there was at least a story in there

>>2141187
go for it

>>2140352
Delusionist

>>2140601
FUCK I CAN'T UNSEE IT

Ignorance is bliss

>>2141243
You will hopefully grow out of it.

>>2141243
The last one would work if it was just better done.
Not sure how to explain it. Just a complete overhaul with an exceptional artist, only then would it be passable

>Says she can easily do my level of art and better.
>Won't because, "It takes too much time to draw like that."

Her drawing skills were potato.

>>2141170

post something old, I need a laugh

>>2140601
no, its just that literally, most people cannot do that picture in general, is why i think its decent. not perfect, but decent. long as it really looks like a person/the subject they photo studied.

the picture has multiple errors, I agree, but you are blowing them out of proportion. like the person didnt at least try.

completing a shitty(by YOUR standards) picture, is better than not doing one at all.

>>2141379
Leave those lazy people in the dust.

Less competition for the future.

>>2140313
those portraits aren't even nearly on the same level of shittiness as melted crayons running down a canvas

>>2140601
>It only looks good to noobies and people who don't draw or paint because they always fucking think more small details = better.

>dat ad hominem projection

>>2141150
I wish it was a lie. I know screenshots can be altered easy but here you go anyway.

>>2141175
not really

>>2139674
i wish art classes were like math classes

>>2141133
i have one of these in my class..

>>2141466
>Austrian German
>Standard German
>German
If universally used German is "German", then what the flying fuck is "Standard German"?
Also please tell me this cunt isn't German. I might have to go look for her and apply some sudden pressure to her temples.

>>2141649
she´s from austria

>>2141649
it's called a dialect you retard

>>2141133
>>writes lewd fanfiction about her personalities fucking each other

>>2140414
Holy shit

>>2141157
For what purpose

>>2141858
Ovaries are worth good money, between 5000 and 10000 dolurs in some places.

>>2141433
They tried yes, but its not good that's why I commented. Maybe I was a bit Hyperbolic
with the cringe thread comment but its definitely a not good, extremely bland kind of
drawing that many people who can draw but don't know the fundamentals at all do.

>>2141459
Wouldn't call it ad hominem since thinking it was good was relevant to the comment and
all the mistakes are hidden under all the small details in the picture. Reading the comment again
I can afterwards admit that there is definitely some projection in it since I used to think that way when I started.

>>2141170
How badly unfinished?

>>2141859

>>2141859

For the eggs, or implantation into trannies?

>>2137887

i tried op not sire of doing it right.

>>2142182
this is eye thread now

>>2142187
I made a booby

for eggs, but the procedure and possible side-effects are quite bad.

>>2142288

I don't get why she would have to go as far as selling her ovaries then...

>>2141421
>>2141876

just kill me now

high school me considered this to be completed, not going to post the rest

>>2142815
This was a project I abandoned around that time

in retrospect it isn't quite as atrocious as I believed it to be... Had I finished it, it might have been something I could fondly look back on

>>2142816
I don't know why I attempted anime style, I wasn't much of a weeb at all.

But anyway thanks for reading my blog about how dumb I used to be

>Join daily spitpaint on fb
>uses daily topics to create puns
>relies on word play to get likes
>no artistic talent
>pic related. kek

This same shit happens at my school too.
>Attending pretty good school. 40k a year
>Think everyone will be hardcore since its a hardcore environment
>3 autistic kids somehow manage to get in
>Manage to make a joke or pun out of every serious assignment
>Rest of the class has great work that is on its way to industry quality
>3 shitbags try to use humor to cover up their lack of fundamentals and refuse to listen to instructors
>get a good laugh whenever i see their work

>>2140414
>the year is 2020 year of hindsight
holy fuck thats gold

>>2141859
Is that American dollars? 5k-10k isn't that much money

>So, there was this one girl at art school.
>Obviously wanted to date me, but I was too cool for her.
>Kept talking to her friends about how she wants to be an animator (I wasn't eavesdropping, it's not my fault she's so loud and annoying!)
>One day she left the class, and I saw her scetchbook lying on the table.
>I looked through it, and there was nothing but FUCKING ANIMU DRAWINGS!
>FUCKING KNEW IT
>So I shat in her purse while she was away. The end.

>>2142876
damn dude thats nasty

>>2142880
I know right? Fucking animufags.

>>2142458
Maybe she's childfree?
I mean c'mon, they always have spare children at the orphanage.

>>2142876
Is that a copy of Turtle.fish.paint's style?

>>2142888
Yep.

>>2137887
>draws only from imagination, even when doing realistic shit
>proportions are fucked as a result
>well I didn't use any refs, I did this all from imagination
>isn't it amazing that I did this well from imagination?

aka me

>>2142815
Oh god
>>2142816
>>2142822
Those aren't that the worst. if you were 12 but in high school? As in you were 15 or 16? Fuck that.

>>2142867
That isn't bad for a hobbyist.

>>2138578
>mfw left hand claw grip for years since I was a kid
>can't draw for more than 30 minutes, have to keep taking breaks
>drawing only with fingers and wrist has fucked my tendons
>slowly trying to break out of it back into normal grips, using shoulder, etc
>zero line stability, everything looks like shit because no muscle memory or control
>literal parkinsons now

Don't do this grip. Ever. It also rapes your thumb joint.

>>2140835
not cringe, it's actually a good idea

>>2140835
Don't rely so much on other people's opinions, anon.

>>2142909
I bet you also sit in a total awkward position to see anything.

>>2140835
that's a perfectly good idea, how could that be interpreted as cringe?

>>2142816
Dear god, "projects", i remember my projects, i think at some point i had 1500+ drawings, each containing a character for several "mangas" i deluded myself into thinking i could do.

I threw it all away, i felt relief knowing nobody would see it. The only thing i have left is a frigging gay elf with long green hair that i painted on my wall, fuck weeabooism, i hope 'till the end of the year i'm good enough with paints, so i can remove the last trace of my weeaboo ways.

More cringe:
>acting like you're god's gift to humanity
>that sick jealousy burn you get when someone more talented than you is around
>muh style, you just don't understand it
>downplaying other people's work, so you can feel superior
>acting like you know anything about art beyond which animu will be starting next season
>getting depressed when someone call you out on your bullshit
>refusing good knowledge because it doesn't fit your delusion of what mangaka's do
>downplaying your own work to gather sympathy points
>drawing for hotpockets since you think drawing is the only reason people are talking to you in the first place
>falling for the whole "imma be a mangaka trap" and all the bullshit that comes with it: learning japanese, moving to japan, publishing on the jump, getting an anime...
>spewing for anyone who wants to hear how school is not important since you're going to be an artist, followed by falling grades, followed by deluding myself even more "it doesn't matter, i'm going to be a mangaka, i don't need to know this shit"
>making cringe worthy art and showing to people, all proud of myself, expecting them to give a shit, praising me and since they're nice people they do indeed, which drives me to keep doing the same shit art
>buying a shitload of art supplies i have no idea how to use but "hey, the pros use it and i'm a pro too, right?"


I was i little turd, jesus christ, i would give anything to go back in time and punch myself.

>>2143445
Holy fucking shit

>>2143120
Yeah it's a half tilted thing where my right forearm lays along the bottom of the paper and then I lean on it using the humerus as a monopod for the rest of me, which fucks my right shoulder joint up.

>>2138897
picaso had personal pro teacher since early age, early private education is the difference

>>2140313
i hate that bottom one the most. you can tell the artist is a Disturbed fan. disgusting.

that said, I can't really hate those birds. The crayons are more of an arts & crafts thing.

>>2142876
I actually have seen all these faces used in hirame's doujins

I just sign everything cause I like my signature

>>2138039
dumb-ass he didn't even get accepted

>>2140313
>No. 1
As a warm up, or as a doodle, I'd think that works. As a finished piece, off putting.
>No. 2
It's simplistic, I like the blues, but I don't get the splatters.
>No. 3
I think this was also done by the artist that did number 2. And with the same response.
>No. 4
meh
>No. 5
wat?
>No. 6
The first one looks like something you would find in the back of a textbook owned by an angsty teenage girl.
>No. 7
Still from an angsty teenager, although growing out of it. I don't care for the style.
>No. 8
It's a neat crafty thing. Nothing wrong with that, other than it's very easy.
>No. 9
It'd be nice to read the typography. There is also something subtly off and because of that slightly unnerving.
>No.10
Whats wrong with this? It's a silly little comic.
>No. 11
Disturbed fan or Johny the Homicidal Maniac, take your pick.

>when we had that Sakimichan challenge and 200 delusional b/ic/hes claimed to do better, but only 4 people actually tried it
>only 2 were decent
good times

>>2139853
That one facebook dude is doing pretty good for himself.
Thats the only graffiti artist I know thats doing well

>>2142871
Well, just for extra cash it aint so bad, just sayin

>>2142903
I'm afraid the comic was done in my senior year of high school, last one is the oldest image, from age 13-14?

Part of it is being obscenely fucking lazy and having no discipline to speak of, but I'm getting out of that.

>>2144384
Ok so its not so bad but still... pretty bad.

>>2138043
>accepted into art school
>with middle school tier dreck

Unless s/he's talking about Art Institute or Full Sail or some such horseshit, I don't see how this is possible.

>>2140250
>Implying anyone on /ic/ could do this by hand

>>2145040
I've seen people's work in real life who probably could.

I cannot.

>>2145040
wasn't made with a straightedge or anything

>>2137887
I use my semen as a medium, so in a few centuries, people will take my paintings from the museums and revive me using my DNA in the paintings.

>>2137943
if you're aware you're delusional, you aren't delusional.

>>2145167
>that guy who pretends he knows he's delusional to delude himself into believing that he isn't

>my first attempt

>trying out realism

>a quick sketch of

b-but people might criticise me if i don't put in one of these prefixes

>>2138400
What a disgusting signature, holy moly

>>2145281
I saw your post and looked at it again

how is that even possible

like that looks like my math homework before I realized that I saved ink by just skipping to the next line instead of scribbling everything out

>>2143445
mai gad
pls anon dont remind me

>>2145167
That's not how it really works. You may be aware of your delusion and how it involves both your art and it's process but that doesn't make you free of it's just engrained into you.

>"I am a Professional artist"
>The sheer number of onlineart artist that call themselves this
Pic related is from a chic who only draws furry shit and transformation porn. She hasn't improved even the slightest bit in the 10+ years she's been drawing but why would she? She gets hundreds of B&W commissions every single month with her crude art and people have literally sunk thousands of dollars to see the same smut pics drawn over and over again. Someone once calculated atleast 3000$ has been spent on Frog porn alone.

Now THAT is a delusional artist.

>>2138061
But they do? Even Leonardo da Vinci, Picasso and tons of famous artists were special snowflakes that signed their art.

>>2138697
Hey shut the fuck up.
This is literally me.
>Hurr durr Just draw 7 heads or so and so proportion
Yeah, that'd be fucking easy if I was a human scanner or meat calculator. I don't have the kind of comprehension skill to mathematically judge whether or not my proportions are correct when I put down my guidelines or loose gestures. All I can do is just very vaguely try to guesstimate distances across the page as I lay my construction down.
>Just FEEL it out!
Yeah and maybe santa clause will bring me better art skills for Christmas.

>>2145400
for 3k I'd fuck a frog, no remorse

>>2145410
>Yeah, that'd be fucking easy if I was a human scanner or meat calculator.
That's practically the definition of being good at observational drawing. It comes with practice.

Try measuring proportions from real life by doing the thingy where you hold your pencil in front of your eye and set the distance between the tip and your thumb as a standard unit, then compare it to another measurement on the object you're drawing.

Try sitting in front of a doorway, straight on, and doing this just to draw a rectangle. Now measure the doorway with a tape measure and see how well you did.

>I don't have the kind of comprehension skill to mathematically judge whether or not my proportions are correct when I put down my guidelines or loose gestures. All I can do is just very vaguely try to guesstimate distances across the page as I lay my construction down.

Don't guesstimate. Measure.

>>2145419
>Try measuring proportions from real life by doing the thingy where you hold your pencil in front of your eye and set the distance between the tip and your thumb as a standard unit, then compare it to another measurement on the object you're drawing

See I don't get this method. In theory sure yeah that can work, but how does that actually improve my internal distance-measuring abilities? I'm not going to be able to just take 5 minutes for every slight proportion I do in any significant work. It's like the kind of tip you might tell a 5 year old to get their relative proportions just right. It's reliable but not in anyway practical.

Especially when you don't have a reference or model of what you're drawing in front of you.

I get that in theory yeah you're supposed to internalize it and just "Memorize" the specifics of whatever you're doing until you don't need the thumb-trick anymore but realistically for me that just doesn't happen.

>Don't guesstimate. Measure.

You cannot measure in every situation, it's not realistic. Especially when you take foreshortening and perspective into account, the nuances of proportion just become absurdly complex.

It's something that cannot be mastered with technique alone but some kind of rote force or raw determination and nerve. Like learning how to draw a damn straight line or good circle. Just how many notebooks does it actually take to get it right?

>>2145439

It's to start. Before you get a sense of it, it's better to measure than guess when you don't know. Do it long enough, and you start to get a sense of it and be able to do it by intuition. It's the same as with any other skill. It's the same as any other skill, the way an experienced driver will be able to be a better judge of things as more and more becomes second nature compared to a new driver who has to stop and think about everything.

I'm not great at it myself, but I found that when it came to proportion, I got better and better with eyeballing it the more I did construction. Do it enough, and eventually you internalize certain elements. It won't all snap into place all at once, but you'll start to see what looks wrong far easier and earlier.

When they look tree like do sit on the bench and draw on it too but it's all the bad draws and theny SIGNED on bench like weekdays the deal with drawn on the bench. Also they are never even laying listening on our teachers fuck ffddz_

>>2138319
well shit

im going about art all wrong

>>2140086
if ur not gonna fuck her i will goddamit

>>2145530
were you drunk when typing this

>look guys, I sketched something!
>it's super clean looking

fucking bullshit. Stop calling it a sketch then

>>2145779
Yeah. Jesus. I remember writing something here but damn, that doesn't make any sense.

>>2145040
umm.. that's most likely traced

>These only took a month
>If I keep on drawing I will get better
>I want to work in the industry
>My coloring is really getting better

>>2140205

>>2141649
But germans are the most cucked people in the world now, not counting the swedes of course.

>>2145863
Are you literally fucking retarded you delusional little shit. That's katsuhiro otomo you little fattie cunt not inio asano who admitted to using photos for backgrounds. Otomo is a god when it comes to detail don't mistake him for some teenage asshole who traces photos. Otomo understands everything when it comes to creating masterpieces so don't you ever forget that you baiting piece of shit who's trying to place Otomo into a bad light and causing lurkers to believe you might be telling the truth. Educate yourself on manga and who is truly the greatest manga artist of them all because right now you're sounding like an ignorant little dickhead.

>>2145961
You need to reconsider where you waste your energy man.
Nobody give's a shit about if he drew it from imagination, with ref or traced it.
The picture is cool and most people who read the manga will spend 2-10s looking at that picture before moving on to the next.
It is ONLY a big deal in YOUR head.
What you are doing is NOT normal.

>>2145992
>taking angry people seriously
>not dismissing them
>not just chillin in your own world

>>2146000
I am friend, I'm drawing and watching Boardwalk empire and enjoyng an espresso.
Poor fella just seemed so rattled that a bit of advice could make his day better.
Have a nice day!

>>2145992
My mind was blow when I realized how much mangaka traced. There are even books full of backgrounds ready to be cut and pasted to save time.

>>2146011
From what little I know it's a fast paced business with tight deadlines and a silly ammount of pages needed per week.
But I am no expert at manga and anime since it's not my cup of tea.

>>2140544
>too much time masturbateng