/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2129118
>Daily reminder that Artists can now make up to 20k biweekly
Only the top dogs.

>>2129124
Git gud

Suika doesn't have sword RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

>>2128994
>>2129049
>>2129047
>it'd be pretty disappointing to know that someone who isn't a shitter would defend teal fanboys.
Nah, I'm shitter like you. It's Maxpower (ladic)
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?
id=1585286
Inspiring as fuck

>>2129141

>>2129141
>Nah, I'm shitter like you.
heh, but i'm already reasonably close to that (maybe).
you stay where you are, shitter! i'll aim to surpass that guy!

Is any weeb able to draw without relying on photographs? I mean can any of you or your heroes actually draw from life or imagination? I see a lot of technicians but no artists, why?

>>2129155
yes cartoonists never ever draw from imagination. even the thought of them doing so is totally absurd.

are you stupid?

Are these colours too much?

If the caligraphy guy made it into this thread, I'd love to see more of your work.

>theos one's work

>>2129178
Pearl's hair gets lost in Rose's hair.

Also everything's really muddy.

>>2129135
it's not suika, but it is.

it's kind of hard to explain. more info look up クッキー, its probably on knowyourmeme too or something

working on this first though, i need my smug loli

>>2129202
my mind cant contain all this smug

>>2129206
shes looking at you peen anon

>>2129200
Thanks!

>>2129202
looking good anon, if you don't mind the minor opinion, her left leg looks a bit off. I feel it should be angled at least somewhat

>>2129170
Is English not your native language?

>>2129337
no, but at least i make sense. try to not write something stupid next time.

>>2129155
You got the wrong thread, buddy, if you want to troll people who only copy photos and can't draw from imagination, you need to go to the draw thread.

>>2129353
None of what you wrote makes sense. I can't tell if you have an argument or just in need of clarification. You can't even be bothered to punctuate and capitalize properly and you want to talk about making sense? Seriously?

All I said is that I see technicians trying to pass off as artists. Anyone can see that. I just want to know why that is.

does her head looks a bit too big?

>>2129375
Not him, but just fuck off, you dimwit. You don't want to know anything, you just want to shitpost in this thread to vent your own frustration. Go draw and become the artist you want to be and make the art you want to see and stop being a whiny, bitter bitch.

>>2129375
>All I said is that I see technicians trying to pass off as artists
and i said you're not making any sense. i know, you're probably one of those people that has some fuckwit definition of "artist".
but even disregarding all that "artist" garbage, you said
>I mean can any of you or your heroes actually draw from life or imagination?
and the answer to that should be pretty obvious. you do have eyes, right?

again: if you stop asking stupid questions, nobody will have to get into convulted arguments like these

>>2129393
the face does. shrink it down a bit, but keep the head the same size?

>>2129419
this is cute

Posted this in the porn thread, but that got derailed rather quickly. Opinions appreciated, in particular about the legs.

Morning warmup

>>2129448
you ever seen an ass

>>2129448
Your foreshortening attempt was not successful. Find a ref and try again.

>>2129510
i'm pretty sure that's traced. which is why at least the proportions seem right

>>2129401
No fuckwit definition, a practical one actually. Artist entailing someone who is genuinely creative with their skills. Someone who can design and invent without a crippling need for formula, which is what a technician is. A phony trying to pass off as being talented.

Every body wants recognition for their efforts. And everybody learning wants shortcuts so they can catchup with others. With all this clambering for respect and skill why make such a cookie cutter product out of it? Where is the fun and challenge in that?

This thread and the porn thread is flooded with dull uninspired uninteresting work and yet nearly everyone wants some kind of notoriety. Why? None of you are actually learning anything that would make any of you standout. And the so called good ones have nothing to contribute. And most of those anons usually end up lying about what they do in regards to what they preach. So learning is actually corrupted from the start.

Basically I'm calling bullshit on all of you. Basically I'm calling bullshit on your reasons to be here. Basically I'm calling bullshit on all the tips, advice, critiques you tell each other. It's all bullshit.

>>2129514
Wasn't traced, but was referenced from a few different sources. Can't post them from where I am, sorry. I;m not sure how foreshortening works exactly aside from things further away get smaller.

>>2129527
Thanks master artist, sorry we don't live up to your standard. One day we'll be as famous as you and your masterful techniques, alright? Until then, please, PLEASE find the mercy in your heart to tolerate us lowly bastards and let us have the honor of even standing in your shadow.

>>2129527
kek, at least that's an interesting response.
i won't even bother with arguing about some definition of the word "artist". in the end i don't think most people care wether they can be called artist under yours or anyone else's definition.

>With all this clambering for respect and skill why make such a cookie cutter product out of it? Where is the fun and challenge in that?
that's like saying why "why learn the guitar if you could learn the violin?". at least if i read you right, you are just saying that anime is shit, right?
if you have a different taste compared to us, don't force your view on ours. saying things like
>dull
>uninspired
>uninteresting
have you considered the opposite? if you showed us some of the shit you liked, i really doubt i would fawn over it.

in fact, cartooning (anime) is good because it is creative, fun and free. the fact that one has to simplify their drawings also means that everyone will have to work with a different interpretation of things.
now you, what do you have to offer on your side? what is this "art" you're talking about supposed to be? it also sounds like bullshit to me.

>>2129535
It's not my standards you should be concern about. It's your own. Do you have any idea of how detrimental it is with the way you're going about this? If you really love what you do, why have such a poisonous attitude about it? Do you not see the problems here?

There is something rotten in the state of Denmark. And it has to do with your approach.

>>2129565
"poisonous attitude"
lol the irony
How about instead of injecting venom into threads you're not fond of, you go draw some masterpieces yourself?

>>2129557
So you're ok with just being able to mimic other people's stuff? You don't want any respect for your work or yourself? You don't want to stand out? You don't want to even try for excellence?

If answer is yes to any of those questions, why are you even here to begin with?

>>2129557
The problem here isn't about my standards, or what I would fawn over. The problem here is you not understanding your own standards to begin with.

Have you ever sat and try to figure out why you genuinely like a particular drawing? Not because of what it depicted or what it was about, but why you're truly attracted to that particular work.

I don't think you actually ever did that. And I think it's foolish to even go one trying to learn anything about drawing without ever doing that. You don't even know how to look at a drawing. So what makes you think you can even learn how to draw?

>>2129573
You're talking out of your ass, I can pretty much guarantee you don't actually draw or paint.

Why do you have to shit this thread up with your pretentiousness? Please go make your own thread.

>learn how to draw
but i can already draw. and i have fairly clear standards about what i like in a piece. besides technical stuff, it has to be either interesting, fun or beautiful. in that order. and that's really just the simple way to put it.
you think being some haughty "artist" will help you make more intersting art, anon?

>>2129573
>So you're ok with just being able to mimic other people's stuff?
but that's just what you think about it because you don't know shit about it. I don't think about it like that at all.
to be honest i have no idea what you are trying to say without seeing what you mean by all this grand talk about meaningful art or whatever.
again, post some of that inspired art you are talking about, and see if we are impressed.

>>2129586
> Have you ever sat and try to figure out why you genuinely like a particular drawing?
I'm pretty sure most people do that instinctively. Although you're so damn pretentious to imply that one's motives behind learning to draw has to go beyond just wanting to draw gay chicken dick in animu form. It can, but wanting to draw and wanting to draw well are pretty basic urges.

>>2129591
>inb4 anon has autism

>>2129607
>I'm pretty sure most people do that instinctively.

Not him, but I think the instinctive element is more "I like this." Or "I like the eyes." or "I like the colors." and less "Why do I like the eyes and the colors? What about it makes me like them?"

I know that before I started drawing I still had collections of art I liked, but I never actually critically analysed why I liked it beyond the broad stuff.

>>2129713

And as an addendum, I don't agree with his pretentious shit about any particular style being inherently better or worse than any other.

>>2129355

You have to admit it's a general /ic/ problem that people are too hung up on being perfect and copying photos to actually draw and experiment.

>>2129715
to be fair, while I don't agree on things being inherently better, there are styles (like anime) which are typically more appealing because they were designed with the purpose of being appealing to people as opposed to something like abstraction which is designed for something entirely different.
So if you were talking in the sense that "this style is better than that style because more people like it" it would make sense.

but then again I'm probably overthinking this and should shut up.

>>2129178
Saw this on tumblr earlier, thought it was good.

>>2129715
Nobody said that.

>>2129603
I think those who automatically associate artist to a stereotype need to check themselves before they wreck themselves.

If you had standards you wouldn't be echoing any of the advice that floats around here let alone try to defend it. Most of it is just sound bites with little to no actual learning behind it. Often it is puffery and empty rhetoric.

And everyone wonders why their stuff doesn't have that certain appeal, that peculiar aura, that others elsewhere seem to have in their work. It's almost like everyone here is too scared to question their own assumptions and mainly want validation for going with the crowd.

How is that a productive environment?

May I have a crit or redline before I go further please?

>>2129781
Please help that bow and arrow. They both don't make any sense.

>>2129781
look at some refs for bows and arrows.
I'm assuming this was the type bow you were going for, the wood part is curved, but the string is typically straight until its being pulled.
The reason arrows fly so fast is because the massive amount of tension, the weight of the bow will not be enough to bend the string if that was what you were going for there, and it wouldn't bend in that manner in the first place.
If he's holding the wood, then it'd be curved toward the string rather than away resulting in a straight string.
you should also apply some perspective to that back leg.
the glasses aren't angled enough considering how angled his face is.
your arrow also looks like shit, but I can chalk that up to a place holder.

>>2129781
Are you a girl?

>>2129772
>I think those who automatically associate artist to a stereotype need to check themselves before they wreck themselves.
why would that mean anything? being an artist, calling each other artists, do you really think that has any meaning or impact on peoples skills and expressions?

>If you had standards you wouldn't be echoing any of the advice that floats around here let alone try to defend it. Most of it is just sound bites with little to no actual learning behind it. Often it is puffery and empty rhetoric.
like what?
where did i even back any opinions in this thread? and which opinions are we talking about anyway? you think this thread is a single person and in agreement all the time? do you have any idea how vague and pretentious you sound? if anything, YOUR WORDS are puffery and empty rhetoric here.
i'd be glad if you don't throw us all into one pot while conveniently leaving yourself out of it.

>And everyone wonders why their stuff doesn't have that certain appeal, that peculiar aura, that others elsewhere seem to have in their work. It's almost like everyone here is too scared to question their own assumptions and mainly want validation for going with the crowd.
no no, people question themselves all the time. and most aren't experienced enough to know anything for sure. it isn't that easy to aquire or teach that "special something".
and stop kidding yourself, you don't know either. so where's your point?

and again, apparently you just can't provide an example of what you're talking about.
be it your art, someone elses art, or just an example that can highlight some of these grand things you are talking about.
you are probably scared because deep inside you know they aren't as grand as you make them out to be.

you kinda sound like some guy who just recently started thinking about art in a more serious fashion and now goes around preaching his hot opinions. a true denizen of "mount stupid".

>>2129866
Riddler please get a trip.

>>2128358

I'm quite satisfied with it but I'm not sure.

Putting all those separate studies together
One's from reference and one's from imagination (it's obvious which is which, huh?)

>>2129852
tumblr?

>>2130093
Can't you read?

>>2130096
oops my bad

>>2130099
>tfw im already following

>>2129527
>Basically I'm calling bullshit on all of you. Basically I'm calling bullshit on your reasons to be here. Basically I'm calling bullshit on all the tips, advice, critiques you tell each other. It's all bullshit.

Haha wow, I can only imagine how utterly terrible your art must be that you are this frustrated and insecure about it.

>>2130087
Ay yai yai, it's not bad but you shouldn't be satisfied with a random perfect profile. Better than the average goy who posts here for sure.

>>2129527
There is an artist who thinks his art is better than the others that his art doesn't need advice from others. And there is the other who is aware that his art is worse than the guy above, but have a good desire to improve by seeking help from experienced people.

>>2130091
share your brush

>>2129143
if she going forward, then why are nvm.

>>2130316
this is dope anon.

>>2129783
>>2129800
Thanks. Will try to work on those issues. Any reference on how I can do the leg perspective?
>>2129805
Yes.

http://drawdevil.com/planet

get in planet, biggest d/ic/ks only

beginner artist here, just looking for some criticism from more experienced artists. (shading is hidden because it's embarrassing)

>>2130580
Try to chicken scratch less and stop trying to stylize without knowing fundamentals, go learn them.

>>2130580
if you're going to be so simple in your handling of the body, hair, and face, you're really going to have to simplify/group the tails. I actually kind of like the treatment of the body from the legs up but the tails are so complex in silhouette and line that they look like a different drawing than the rest of the picture

also as the other anon said stop chicken scratching and commit to one line to make the desired mark

>>2130580
your eyes are very far apart

Thoughts? Critiques?
Kinda new to drawing humans and characters, I haven't really settled on a "style" but I've been experimenting and thought this one turned out the best

>>2130598
i tidied up the body a bit.

any better?

>>2130631
Not really

It's not that the line quality itself is awful, it's just now you don't have a bunch of chicken scratch masking your lack of anatomy understanding.

At this point you have a bigger issue to tackle - study human anatomy then go back to stylizing. I think you have a decent inherent sense of style but your lack of fundamental knowledge makes it irrelevant.

Also, showing some overlap will help give your lines more depth. At the moment the only overlaps you're showing is places where you accidentally drew lines over eachother (like in the groin).

Honestly, I'd recommend dropping this and studying some figures with the help of Mike D. Matessi's "Force" book in combination of some master copies of styles you like (at my school they make you study Chris Sanders so he's the first name that pops into my head but I'm not sure how similar he is to what you want to do). Also study Michael Hampton's anatomy books for muscle and structure.

>>2130630
Looks like he shit his pants and doesn't know what to do

>>2130684
thanks for being honest, i'll work a bit more on my anatomy

>>2130689
lmao

>>2130689
Aside from his shit-pants gesture

>>2130200
Basic round brush

>>2130091
I want to learn anatomy from wherever you learned to do this. Please teach me.

>>2130630
back leg doesn't feel grounded

Not a big fan of doing fan art, but whatever, gotta get noticed somehow. New to cel-shading, so there's still a lot of things I don't particularly understand. Right now I just have gradients (multiply/overlay) on top of base/light/shadow layers through clipping masks. Any ways I can make it feel more alive, or is it just intuition/colour theory? Tips/different methods appreciated.

>>2130957
you can start by not being shit before you start complaining about what type art you're doing.

>>2130957
To get noticed you need to find what's appealing to look at, this just looks creepy to me.

Honestly I'd take this as a learning step and move onto something else.

>>2130893
Mm, just grab good anatomy books, read them front to back, and (important!) draw every single drawing in the book, multiple times if you have to.
I used Hampton's Design and Invention book, and Bridgman's constructive anatomy as a compliment to it. Both are in the mega link. When you cover a section in Hampton (Torso, legs, arms, etc.) find the same section in Bridgman, draw everything.
Take it slow and don't move on until you know what you were studying. Do gesture drawing every day. Challenge yourself from time to time and draw something from imagination (that'll tell you how proficient you are at each part of the body) and work on weaknesses. Give yourself deadlines but don't kill yourself if one part of the body takes longer than you thought, it happens to everyone. That's how I did it, I can't guarantee it will work for anyone else, and I'm pretty far from being finished myself, but it seems like a pretty standard way of going about it. Good luck, anon!

Hey guys, having a bit of trouble with Link's cap in the background. Does this look believable? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. c;

>>2131290
The back of the cap is fine, maybe tone the value down a bit. It doesn't need to be spectacular, since it's not the focus. Two things though, the cross section of the hat makes her head look flat, and there should be some fabric overlap on her fingers if she's pulling that hat down.

>>2131290
I absolutely hate the face. I get that you're going for semirealism but Zelda was cuter than this. In your pic she looks more like a MILF.

>>2131323
And not even one of those MILFs with an attractive face

>>2131298
>>2131323
I see what both of you are saying, and I'm working my way towards both. Hopefully we're getting a step closer.

Almost done. Not changing anything but crit heavily appreciated.

>>2131654
Bretty good, but she looks stiff, especially her shoulders. The face is also bordering on middle school animu, the mouth should be moved back a bit or be made bigger

>>2131654
The streak from the scythe should be solid, having it broken up like that ruins the motion behind it

more sketches

>>2131749
>>2131752
Thank you for the valid feedback. I won't be revisiting it because I have some art due, but I'll surely take note of these. Thanks in advance for any other advice I receive.

>>2131754
tumblr?

>>2131599
I think your biggest problem is how wide you made the nasal bridge, after all there is a small distance between the corners of the eyes and nose, they don't start next to each other.
As for the cap, if she is pulling it down on her head, the front the cap would touch the hair, and there would be almost no shadow between them.

>>2131799
her left hand (from the picture side) is completly wrong. The fingers are okeish but the palm is too fucking large.

>>2131754
Can you draw males Ham?

Okay, so a lot of changes have occurred since the last post. I've changed up the hands a tad, and polished up the face, and replaced eyes. I'd like to keep this from getting too generic tho.

Ill do some changes here and there, like the face and perspective of things but after that i dont know if i feel like working on it anymore.

Im kinda curious to what you guys think about the stabilizer in sai, is it worth keeping it low in order to train good strokes? or would that just be a waste of time? I feel like im cheating sometimes even tho its as legit as any other tool.
I couldnt imagine working in photoshop, my lines would take forever

>>2131961
You gotta use your tools to their full potential, man. If you can pull off the same kind of lines traditionally, then I think you're fine and shouldn't worry about it. I always think of the stabilizer as a way to make up for the disconnect caused by using a tablet.
Also excellent work on the pic B)

>>2131961
I'd say do a mix of both, although I do my line practice primarily on paper and keep the stabilizer on high most the time because my tablets are a bitch to get good lines with.
but having better lines will never hurt you even if you have the stabilizer on.
don't turn it off though if it helps you right now, if it begins to get in the way feel free to turn it off, but making your art work suffer just because you want to suffer is never a good idea.

>>2131961
oh my, i really dig this. crisp outlines, cute face. give her a nice toned belly.

>>2131938
diferent anon, but I kinda liked it when Zelda was looking up. Gave it a more "caught in the moment" kind of feel

>>2131988
youmu's the softest though

>>2130091
nice gestures. especial the hand gestures. How long you been artin?

>>2131799
you should work on the hands. theres something offputting about the finger to palm ratio/size

>>2131938
hmm this makes me want to do a shit ton of zelda/link sketches... maybe.. later tonight when im not jackin it.

>>2131829
But males aren't qt

>>2132079
They can be

I wonder if there will be enough decent western animu-style artists to make a small small manga magazine in the future.
Back around 2000 or so i never used to see western artists who could replicate a japanese style, but these days there are so many really competent western artists who can really pull off a believable animu style.

>>2132166
AHH I LOVE
one thing that bugs me tho is the shading on the stomach is a little too sharp. i would try blending that just a bit.

>>2132209
looks fine to me bruh

>>2132166
tentacle tips look like they're paper. otherwise pretty good.

>>2132181
Most are illustrator though, manga is a whole different thing, both technically with tones effects and paneling and that it requires decent writing,
i doubt must have even tried.

>>2132055
Then its my job to draw her softness with abs

>>2130580

1. Collarbone feels a bit symbol draw-ey. The attachment points should be at the top of the sternum and the humerus.

2. The upper left arm is a bit too long.

3. The pose is a little off-balance - the right leg should be placed slightly further out to compensate for her leaning posture.

4. Is she supposed to be sort of tucking the fingers on her right hand into the pit of her left elbow, because a) that's weird, and b) it feels a bit like an excuse to avoid drawing fingers.

5. Facial features are...well, without trying to sound too harsh, they're a bit all over the place. You would do well to study head construction a bit more, especially how the facial features are placed on the skull.

Overall I would echo the sentiment of the other anons recommending you study a bit more anatomy before trying to stylize too much. But you're certainly not off to a bad start, and the drawing does have a lot of appeal. All you really need is just a bit of a firmer background.

Quick 30 minute attempt at chibi's. Never tried drawing them before, how awful did I do?

it's been a while /ic/, rip me apart as I work on this please

>>2132483
curious to see it done

>>2132483
feels like the girl isn't part of the scene due to her perspective matched against the background

>tfw your daddy tells you you'll never be a mangaka

i got like 10 pages of stuff like this from yesterday which is cool I guess but i fear it's all i'll ever have the attention span to do. Somebody save me from this hell.

>>2132483
honestly like where its going but the arms look like they connect at strange angles and I'd say the back of the dress comes down a little far.
and as the other anon said there are some perspective issues with the background.

If one doesn't get any comments about a piece of work posted, is it a good thing or a bad thing?

>>2132581
Fix your chicken scratching.

>>2132597

>>2132581
isn't me
>>2132567
>>2132569
>>2132572

but i'll take that into consideration.
Also is there a way to easily smudge colors together in photoshop like there is in sai?

>>2132612
>smudge color together
like the smudge tool...?
or are you talking blending, in which case you just use the soft round brush.

>>2131963
>>2131965
Yeah i feel like it makes up for it especially when the tablet have got pretty worn, at start it was much better, more of a paper feel.
Now if im to put a piece of paper over my tablet my nibs get grinded down very fast tho ive read you could use a spaghetti strav or something of similar size incase i run out? No idea.
Ive pretty much only drawn with my tablet thats why i have these concerns about the stabilizer.
>>2131988
Thanks, have not draw much of visible abs on a woman before so for practice might be fun

roughing out colours

>>2132650

>>2132684
heh just realize who you were drawing, got a chuckle out of it.

>>2132650
Pushed the lower part of her face to the left, and moved the far eye closer to the nose.

I also think her hair looks like a giant wig that is about to fall off as she leans forward, but I don't know the character, so I maybe it is supposed to look like that.

just checking sth

>>2132684
the fairy thing's wings are too contrasty with the shadows behind it and immediately detract my attention away from what i think you WANT the focal point to be

>>2132810
>>2132684
If they made the wings translucent I think that'd be fine. Have some of the gold and whatnot show through.

I needed something to procrastinate actual drawings so I did this
...why the hell I'm procrastinating the only thing I like to do, anyway?

>>2131754
oh boy, its that pork leg guy

>>2132875
Maybe you're afraid of failure
Maybe you like ghastly people with really long hair
(first impression is kinda nice btw, second read needs refinement.)

>>2132894
Well, both are true I guess

Experimenting with reference >>2122025

Experimenting with reference >>2122025 →

Experimenting with reference >>2122025 →

>>2133156
I'm hoping you just fucked up with the values. unless you're dead your stomach should never indent that much. I mean i see in the reference what you were going for, but it's not that drastic.

>>2133194
everything there is a bit fucked up. flat stomach is hot btw. get a gf that eats and exercises properly, its quite possible. also genes.

am I doing it rite?

>>2133418
that's not flat though, that's anorexic levels

going to color this. thoughts?
do you think my values already OK? or do i still have to put more contrast?

>>2133661
I'd like a decent tutortial on how to color from grayscale. I know the general idea behind it but I can't seem to get it right.

>>2133661
Your values overall are way too light, I think. I would definitely add more contrast.

HOW DOES ONE EVEN GET THIS GOOD HOLY SHIEEEEEEEET

>>2133677
Just do it like everyone else does it and use photos. The trick is making it look like you painted it.

>>2133677
That's Ryan Lang right? The dude's been super good for years and years. He used to post aas Chromosome on conceptart.org years ago and his stuff was always super solid even back in the day. I'm sure now that he works in pre-production his art is much more efficient too (those studio jobs will boost your skills quite a lot in a short period of time).

>>2133685
Horrible advice

>>2133685
>go take a picture of a hooded sword wielding mouse facing off against a giant ferret.
okay.

>>2133677
Very nice

Big question. I I want to draw with a Manga or Anime style, should I still be paying attention to the links in the OP?

>>2133694
Pay attention to and study from life. Those resources will help you best until after you have fundamentals.

>>2133677

How does he even choose those colors tho, I would've saturated the shit out of everything without even realizing it.

>>2133694
While /ic/ will exaggerate how much you need realism to draw animus its still has a seed of truth. Animus are still based on real people and poses/dynamics will still be the same regardless. if you're just copying of animus then it'll hurt you when you realize the person who drew your reference originally fucked it up, you can't fuck up reality though.
basically its easier to assume everyone is stupid and to base your drawings off reality then stylize it as you see fit rather than copy someone else's mistakes.

>>2133701
Probably started out very neutral and maybe even cool, then added the warms through things like color dodge or overlay or whatever, so that he could control the exact extent of it. Possibly also had some reference he used to keep his colours in check.

guys what dose it mean "pixel size". Theres that option and it zooms me in idk whats up with that.

>>2131754
Could you please give some resources in learning this style? Or if anyone else has an idea.
I know it resembles oldies anime, but are there any books in particular I should look up?
They could be artbooks, how-to books, or even specific manga/anime.

Thank you, guys.

>>2133939
whoops, namefagged
>>>2131754
>Could you please give some resources in learning this style? Or if anyone else has an idea.
>I know it resembles oldies anime, but are there any books in particular I should look up?
>They could be artbooks, how-to books, or even specific manga/anime.
>Thank you, guys.

>20 million posts
>no actual drawings
this doesnt deserve a general, friends.

>>2133717

/ic/ also doesn't even mention a lot of shit you need to be good at any stylized art, like knowing about visual design. Like I've seen some really technically proficient artists here but a lot of their shit is usually stiff and lifeless, but then I see some doodles done by an animation student at one of the handful of decent art colleges out there and their shit is fucking lively and well designed.

If you were to follow /ic/'s advice to heart you'd end up drawing realistic human figures with animu eyes. I mean sure I can just say "hurr just fucking think for yourself" but that requires you to know good advice from opinionated bullshit, and if you're a complete art newfag you just won't have the knowledge to gauge which is some asshole spouting strong opinions and which is honest to goodness advice. At best you'd know when someone is trolling you but that's kind of obvious if you spent any time on 4chan.

>>2134030
well a lot of people just say 'read the sticky' and some of the sources on the sticky do give some good advice on that. ctrl alt paint I believe has a nice little series on making composition, while it won't help with your posing it does help your composition's flow which a lot of people seem to lack and really does help make your drawings interesting.

>>2130722

It's neat.
I usually go with 0.1 with 70 opacity on the inkbrush but this is a nice change.

>>2129393
If anything, I think the helmet is too small. Helmets shouldn't hug too much to the head.

>>2134280
Uh, yeah. Dumb thing I did. It's been a while since I tried coloring something and I think I'm got rustier. Not going to bother explaining the joke unless you follow lolcows.

doo

>>2134323
How do you color? Do you color over the lines or under and then remove them?

>>2134324
under

Fuck i wish i was as good as some of you motherfuckers oh my god

>>2134338
What the fuck is going on with my resolution holy shit

>>2133941
Anyone?

>>2134338
>4961x7016
Jesus fucking christ anon

>>2133677
based Ryang fucking Lang

>>2134431
Forgive me

>>2133685

Thank fucking god I saved that photo session of mouse warriors armed with tiny weapons.

>>2133694
>I want to draw with a Manga or Anime style, should I still be paying attention to the links in the OP?

I would suggest you learn the fundamentals anyway before you start fucking with muhstyle.

It's better to know all the tools you can work with and understand how everything works, then modify it, than to just understand the end result and try to reproduce it.

>>2133677

>>2134449
I love mouse guard, I have the RPG box and it's much fun!

>>2134442
Is that sarcasm? Cause you know, you could just combine photos of a mouse, cape, and a sword.

>>2134480
Collaging shit like that won't yield satisfactory results. Works on illustrations and Environment designs and realistic clothing / character elements but mouse guard is entierly stylized to the point where their swords are primarily triangles on a scabbard.

>>2134582
That's really cute, man.

>>2134480
>Cause you know, you could just combine photos of a mouse, cape, and a sword.

Yeah and the end result would look like shit and nothing like what the artist in question did.

>>2134498
>Giving a mouse digitigrade feet
why

Unfinished bodies and circles

>>2135086
Left ankle is really small, nice expression

>>2135106
L S D
S
D

>>2135041
watch me sink by torpedo into this cow

destiny shit

I chicken scratch way too much, I know. Any tips?

>>2135258
Draw the way you are most comfortable with. Most pro artists' sketches (digital) look just as messy. You would make a second layer and draw cleanly on top, if you want lineart.

>>2135086
Why are her knees on backwards?

>>2135086
Work on those lines miku. Have you tried doing some technical drawings?

anyone knows how to delete your image from sankaku complex ?

>>2133941
Not sure If I'm qualified to give out advice but I got most out of screencaps from the anime I watch.

Off the top of my head, Takashi Nakamura did some really great character animations/designs in the 90's. You can really get a nice sense of fully realized '3-D' form of the character animated from his works. The gif is from Peter Pan no Boken, an anime he worked on.

>>2135258
Create a clear idea in your mind before start to draw, that's helps a lot.

Trying to get back to daily sketching.

>>2135714
Why Empowered ?

>>2135716
>Why not?

I'm bored on a sunday and contemplating re-reading my trades.

>I don't know how to choose pose for character
What to do? I can spend day in refs folder without any results. Literally don't know what to draw

>>2135746
Body language is all about storytelling. What kind of story do you want to tell? What kind of moment or feeling you want to convey? There in lies to pose.

>Can you feel it?

>>2135746
You need to build your visual library, which does mean drowning in refs. Don't just copy them, try and reinvent the ref yourself- choose another angle, move a few limbs. Do some new poses before you go to bed, try and draw those poses from memory when you wake back up
Go read through some of Loomis's Figure Drawing for All it's Worth. Skip the anatomy part, read how he describes poses, copy his drawings and make some yourself. Good luck, anon!

>>2135750
>What kind of story do you want to tell?
I wish I knew. Tell me about his stories http://fumio936.tumblr.com
or his
http://nasoyon.tumblr.com
>>2135752
Okay.

>>2135765
Honestly, they have a message too. Most of the girls are posed in a way to convey sensuality.

If you want to draw "like" them, find what is sexy to you and try to analyze what exactly is appealing. Use what you find.

Don't know where else to ask, so I figure this thread is a good a place as any to find out.

Can anybody recommend to me an art program for my pc that fits my 'style'? Preferably cheaper or free, if that's no trouble. I used to have FireAlpaca, but I just couldn't get the feel of it.

I'm using fuckin ms paint right, it's all I have in my armory that I can get to work with me well, but obviously, it has its limitations. I guess I like a more graphic, solid look to my drawings. Sorry if I sound like a fag or something, I just don't know where else to ask.

Pic related is some shit I threw together real quick. Can post more if it'd help. Thanks

>>2135772
probably a vector program, like adobe illustrator or Inkscape.

>>2135144
Is it decent enough? I've been wanting to move forward from basic lineart and go to coloring but I still think sometimes that the lineart doesn't blend well with the values.

>>2135769
>find what is sexy to you and try to analyze what exactly is appealing.
My mathematical mind is killing me.

>>2135777

Appeal isn't necessarily quantifiable. I mean, things like big eyes, large foreheads hit on a primal level, but there is no hard and fast rule to make a drawing appealing. It almost entirely subjective.

Like I said, find what personally resonates with you, emulate that. Not just what make your (presumably) dick hard either, look for the aesthetics.

>>2135786
also, have empathy.

>>2135714

>>2135281
>>2135643
Thank you both!

Quick bump before I start doing the lineart.
>>2135258

>>2135854
>>2135258

If you're going to scribble, try not clutter the images with extraneous lines. Right now you're trying to search for the perfect contour by scattershot. It's probably in there, but you won't find it.

Try to go for shapes instead, build up form. Even if you're scribbling, it'll feel more solid. I used your composition as an example. Hope it helps.

I drew a friend's OC

how I do. I'm kind of a beginner

>>2135876
Thank you so much!

did this while practicing hands.

I know the motive isn't very fancy; mainly trying to draw dark skin tones.

>>2135772
those are cute
get Paint tool SAI, I use it for heavy line art just fine

>>2135876
Also, do you know any good resources/books/guides on shapes and forms?

done for now

>>2133692
very mice

shit fucker upper guy

>>2136214
>hiding feet

>>2136130
It's good, but do you really want to aim for the "generic facebook/mobile game art" style?

>>2136200
brilliant

>>2133471
not yet but hey!

>>2135380
Dem colors doe :O

>>2135904
Is this yours? Pretty neat.

>>2136169
>loomis

Other than that you're gonna have to figure out for yourself. There's no trick to discerning form. In fact you can probably recognize how a leg can be simplified in a cylinder, etc.

You can try still life drawing as well, grab some household objects. Don't try to copy the contours perfectly, find the cones/cubes/spheres the make up the objects and draw through.

>>2132612
mixer brush, or i just use soft round, but in master race manga studio. Fuck photoshit.

>>2136226
happy?

Does anyone have a good draw chibi book or tut?
all I find is garbage like pic

>>2136200
shits awesome man
whered you learn that style?

>>2136586
>>2136214

Need way more pouches, Liefeld is disappointed in you.

>>2136642
search for moe basics in the mega folder from the book thread

>>2136657
thanks m8 you da real mvp

work in progress. just blocking in shadow shapes. getting tripped up on how to sculpt the lower leg, can someone help or post resources?

anything glaringly wrong before i start coloring?

>>2136684
yes.
>remove background
>remove ties
>remove hands
>remove victim
draw something decent and come back.

>>2136684
is there anywhere at all where I can see all your work? I love everything I've seen you post.

>>2136694
constructive

>>2136697
quite the fucking point

>>2136684
You want want to take another look at the hand on the far left holding that knee. The grip doesn't look very convincing.

>>2130091
why do people post these sorts of stupid incomplete sketches. bolding lines to make it look impressive, sketch lines and over sexualised, anyone can draw anatomy with a but of practise. use your own imagination and create a finished product. woman are not objects for your merely studying. So please give those characters some life and don't post this crap anymore.

I totally understand the point of this thread, people are TOO EAGER to copy instead of simply sitting down and drawing, take some inspiration from artists you l!I've and respect, photographs, transform it and make it something new.

I am not happy with my art or it's quality. There is enough crap on the internet so why should I post more crap to fill up these glorious things we call databases. why should people have to see that. Be your own judge and loosen up, choose a direction you want to go in with your drawing and stick with it.

>>2130129
and you must be really insecure to comment on his insecurity. (me included). get lost.

>>2136793
>blah blah blah
Post your art, tard

>>2136793
kill yourself

>>2136715
Is this good?
>>2136695
pixiv id=3915752

>>2136684
>>2136895
Damn. How did you learn to draw so well?
Are you Asian?

Just started using SAI what are some nice settings for the brush? i'm new to digital art.

>>2136235
>>2136643
thanks guys. and on 'style', it's something you'll develop as you draw; dont have to worry about 'choosing a style'.

Done for now I guess.

>>2137071
you honestly got the main things over in /a/ now stop being a faggot and kill yourself.
also stop copying without understanding what you're doing.

Drawing some Dredd shit to unwind.

>>2137088
I really like these!

gonna turn this into a small animation later

Hey, sorry I didn't work on this for a week, was outta town with laptop and didnt have teamviewer...

>>2136895
Yes

>>2136895
>pixiv id=3915752
>>2137170

Does anyone mind giving me some crit on this? I've been trying to overcome my tendency to draw stiff, doll like figures. Is it both anatomically correct and dynamic?

>>2137114
muddy and sloppy as fuck, but I think you should colour dodge more

>>2137266
>Is it both anatomically correct and dynamic?
No. There's even no sense of volume. Studying muscles and doing some gestures will help you.

Try Hampton - Figure drawing - design and invention

>>2137170
>doodle
>fappable

tis good m8

Is this good art?

>>2137301
stop asking stupid questions.

>>2137302
I'm serious though.
Do you prefer something so simple yet solid and generic over more stylized and detailed but less "accurate" styles?
What would you say is more important?

>>2137307
forgot the pic

>>2137289
I guess I'll go do that then. Got any tips to help me out in the meantime to add what you say it lacks?

>>2137307
Except Murata's drawings aren't "simple" or "generic", stop being retarded and using bad examples, the beginning of Berserk was less detailed than most of the OPM pages.

>>2137312
I'd appreciate it if you could show me a page like this in any of Murata's work.
Please don't make it sound as if Murata is anywhere near Miura's level of detail and style.

>>2137317
Okay.

> Please don't make it sound as if Murata is anywhere near Miura's level of style.

You're really a retard aren't you ?

>>2137317
not him but since when was copious detail a good thing? nigga looks like the luvisi of manga

>>2137320
>thinking that this compares to the page I posted
You could've just said that you are a Murata fanboy.

>>2137322
You're the one acting like a Miura fanboy.

>>2137321
But that was my question before the autist chimed in.
What do you prefer and what do you think is more important?

>>2137325
You understand that Berserk is an exception because Miura is batshit insane when it comes to details and that almost no others serie are this overdetailed right ? OPM is among the most stylized and detailed right now, you're using terrible examples.

you all retards who dont know it depends what is your theme and how you want to handle it.

Some stupid mspaint scribbles before going to bed

anyone have that kr0npr1nz tutorial? The one where you take any portrait and turn it into a deviantart masterpiece?

I asked in another thread, but I might as well ask here as well.
I draw in a weeb style, and I'm having a bit of trouble drawing female characters from various races. Anime usually just goes by skin color, clothes and hair and reuse the same handful of facial structures, so I'm wondering if there are any artists who actually know how to draw characters with more distinct racial features. In particular, I'm looking for Asian eyes and the protruding jaw/lips of ni.. Africans.
It's not like I'm incapable of drawing this myself, but it would be helpful with some references, to see how other artists deal with it. The problem is making it look natural and aesthetically pleasing within the relatively simplistic style I draw in.

>>2137170
fuck you 911

which nose looks better for porn?
also any redline/anime tips&tutorials would be appreciated.

>>2138063
Left, it matchex the shape of the face better. I would be more concerned about the eyes though. What's with the under eye bags? Also a little more refining in the eyes may help. Looking good otherwise, gj

>>2138063
left one looks more soft

>>2138070
its quite rough at this point, she's a used up mom so that's why bit fucked up eyes&under eye bags. I like the right one because it reminds me of my 80's animes but mostly whatever really. I'm more concerned with bit rugged but not very much/easy to maintain mature mom hair at the moment.
>>2138072
ok thanks

>>2137912
>how can I make things not simplistic in a simplistic art style.
its simple, you either don't do it or you change your style.

>>2138015
hot

>>2138142
So, does anyone who's not an idiot have an answer?

New Thread:

>>2138672
>>2138672
>>2138672

>>2134449
i like his work but all the damn dust particles block his cool backgrounds, he should tone it down if he doesn't want to make it look like snow.