/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Thanks for the honor OP.

This E3 was too epic. WIP Pic related. Do you guys have any critique, before I ruin it with them colors?

>>2132019
Boy looks pretty gay.
Was that intentional?

>>2131945
>dat OP

>>2132032
Nope. Does it bother other people too?

>>2132019
>The game won't even be out until next year
>We've only seen a trailer and brief gameplay
>There's already porn of the last guardian
If only the development of the game was as fast as the people making porn of it, instead the devs chip 1's and 0's in a stone tablet with how long its taken to produce the game.

>>2132054
Shit bro, that's nothing. Look at all the Dragon's Crown doujins that came out while it was in development hell.

>>2132054
Gotta get on the hype train early if you want them commission dollars.

>>2132088
hey, it works. Unless you're Preston or some shit.

Hey I'm doing this pic still >>2132029
Should I go with fuzzy bunny ears or finish going for a satin kind of look?

>>2131945
Any anons that compile their favorite stuff from /ic/'s porn threads want to dump or post collection to a hosting site?

>>2132019
Fucked it up.

>>2132101
satin.

>>2132111
Okay thanks, I couldn't decide. I looked up some google pics and it seems like most of the adult oriented ones aren't fuzzy, so I think it's the right call.

>>2132106
I don't think you fucked it up.

I would never want a giant bird monster to hold me down and give me an old fashioned.

Looking at this though makes me thing twice.

>>2132106
>>2132019
nice

>>2132106

Where's the blue glowy horns

So I took some of that advice for line work in the other thread.

>>2132242
his penis is coming out of his stomach

Reposting. Lots of refining, anything else to get at before destroying it with color?

>>2132312
Foreskins kinda tight looking for an erect penis.

>>2132312
her nose is a little weird and too far in the middle of the face for her facing to the side.
and i think there's something wrong where her arm and boob are joining. seems like they're too close together / shoulders are too narrow.

i do like your lineart though

>>2132312

>>2132242
I don't think it looks like that (not the artist)

I done goof...
>>2132388
Meant that as a reply to
>>2132245

>>2132380
He obviously wants to fuck her kneepit.

>>2132312
The girl has nice form to her and nice gesture (but you could push it a bit further) and she has some anatomical quirks. Her arm has lines that overlap/intersect her breasts. For the sake of priority, you should avoid intersecting lines and move the arm just to show which part of the body has priority. The lower half of her looks a bit flatter than normal pelvic regions. You do put some detail of anatomy which is good but they don't compliment the form of the legs. Think of boxes when you draw foreshortened parts of bodies.
Please forgive me if I got anything wrong, I don't redline often but I thought I'd give a few thoughts. I hope to see you finish this, anon! There are many of us counting on you and waiting for you to succeed.

>>2132380
cute redline

>>2132380
Very much a cute redline, though the perspective of the table is off. Nonetheless, it is very much a before scene that I can see looking odd, thank you.

>>2132405
Everything seems reasonable enough, thank you, the arm seems a simple enough fix, though the odd angle im not certain of. Will examine more after work.

So what do you guys think of Proko's anatomy lessons so far? Thinkin' of getting premium to make my porn look better.

>>2132436
lmao good luck with that.

guys I dont know what characters should I do now. Something fresh but getting popular would be nice.. any ideas ? I wanted to draw splatoon squids but I would get backslash from sjw and I dont have pixiv yet.

>>2132459
Try the new E3 announcements or gear up for the big releases like MGSV.

>>2132436
Vilppus shit is free from any torrent site and will teach you much more than proko can.

>>2132460
but it was all shootan and blowan no qt's.

>>2132465
Up to you, mang.
Going to be doing a lot of MGSV and Nier 2.

>>2132459
Anime, games or movies?

What is disney dropping next?

>>2132041
Ive been looking everywhere for legomans hip tutor.
Ill pin that shit so i wont lose it again

>>2132162
>>2132162
D-Dont look at me like that Patty

>>2132242
I know what you are trying to do, but I think you need to make his legs longer?

>>2132242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM9Slkphjls

How to I draw appealing torsos for men and women

>>2132771
Man i need to finish shit.
But how do I make my stuff more appealing?

>>2132771
Trial and error > keep repeating until satisfied.

>>2132774
I'd bring in that back/side a bit for the dude, more of a triangle than a brick.

You draw cute cocks though, keep it up.

>>2132771
im so glad i wasent born with a giant hand instead of upper torso.

>>2132774

So I tried fixing the foreshortening.

I wish someone would teach me in the ways of porn.

Anyone have any advice on the pose? Her spine seems to look broken although I used a ref for the pose

found out the left shoulder is trash, anything else?

>>2132994
but that's the left foot

Amazing Spiderman threesome.

>>2132162
I simply love the expressions of your characters.

>>2133035
nice but dat fucking left hand on the girl though. That and spidey's dick looks like it's attached to his right thigh. way too low in his hips, which look fucked up if they weren't covered by the girl's chest. Looks like you just guessed it out there.

Overall it looks nice, but there's a lot of not so subtle anatomical errors throwing it off. Also how low is that bed if the guy off of it is on his knees? Might just be better to remove that so it looks more like he's standing.

>>2133099
I always guess stuff. I can't remember when was the last time I did a major constriction during sketching. Normally I don't make such big mistakes, but it depends on the day/inspiration or something. But mistakes are present 80% of the time and I correct them after sleeping over the illustration (unless I'm sure I nailed everything in the beginning).

Anyway, all that you said it's true. I see it now. The most fucked up is spidey's right tigh/leg and the perspective of the bed (that's why you think the guy on the right is kneeling on the floor - he's on the bed). Lowering spidey's torso should do the trick I guess.

>>2132783
>>2132798
>>2132804
>>2132817
Thank you all.
Now im seeing it

>>2133273
the boobie on our right should be shifted higher up due to her arm/shoulder position
the collarbone is in the wrong spot (too high up)
also why is that glass so close to her tits. shit's gonna get knocked over so fast

>>2133284
I don't agree.

>>2133284
>the collarbone is in the wrong spot (too high up)
How? the collarbone is usually aligned at a straight line with the shoulders and is no more than four fingers down from the chin facing straight.

>>2133273
nice shading
the light on the cellphone's tit doesn't match the original

>>2133295
the chin is not facing straight here, and one of the shoulders is raised. this is going to affect how the collarbone should be drawn.

>>2132863
How about drawing some realistic bodies?, man your anatomy drawing sucks, draw real women and men.

>>2133273
You're great at rendering. You really need to work on your color variation. Everything is very saturated and looks monochromatic. I've seen this in other work of yours. Use adjustments to make those colors pop.

am I heading in the right direction for erotic chubbs

Want to see if this could be twisted in right direction.

>>2133378
if she's got a stomach that big, chances are she's not gonna have a thigh gap
also those are some freakishly short arms

>>2133378
I feel like you're trolling tbh.

>>2133383
alright how about now? are there any good tuts on nipples? Or should I just look at references? I find it less weird using larger breast for larger women

>>2133273
fantastic as always but yes its overly saturated. You need some desatured areas to create better focus mate.

>>2132532
lol
>>2133075
Thanks!

>>2133421
Apply gravity to the breasts you are drawing. I have never seen a pair of breasts that resemble the ones you have drawn.

And I'm leaning on >>2133384's post, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

If you want "erotic chubbs" you're going to have to learn what areas the fat folds (and in what position). Your arms are too thin, your legs are too long, and that stomach looks bloated and not appealing at all.
Attractive body types for women are usually measured by her hip-to-waist ratio. Even in fat people, this is a desirable trait. If you want to stick to the square-bodied person you've drawn, that's fine, but the fat you've placed around her midsection makes her look /bloated/, not /chubby/.

I would draw a different position if I were you. The pose is bland, and that will also take away any erotic themes you attempt to do.

Here's a reference of a chubby woman (albeit with a desirable low fat distrubution to her stomach). I hope it will help you.

>>2133273
lovely gesture and awesome stylization
the only thing I'd change here is adding some more gloss to the vagina and penises or tone it down on the tits.

>>2133273
Are those kids? They seem to be located in one of those hostbars or brothels as depicted in hentai. Why are kids there and who gave them booze? Why is that glass so close to her, they can't fuck like that. Is she hot and uses it to cool her flesh? I don't see any perspiration. Why are there empty condoms but no cum anywhere? They're not trying to be clean about it, look at that stain. Why dies she have that face, she isn't receiving any stimulation whatsoever. Her vagina actually appears drier than her nipples.

Also, your glasses don't drop shadows, it makes it appear like they're not part of the picture. Also, the focal point of the picture is the glass with the glowing liquid.nI can't get my eyes away from it.

>>2133438
thanks, I'll get back to studying

>>2133438
Breasts too small to be a true chubb

>>2133474
Well, she's not fat, and she's not average.
Her body reminds me of the women our masters would paint.

>>2133485
>Her body reminds me of the women our masters would paint.
I thought the same the exact moment i saw it, i wonder why was everyone painting this body type back then, it must have been the fetish of the time.

>>2133487
That's what cheap whores looked like back then, cheap whores being the affordable muse of choice back then.

>>2133457
Most of what you said don't really bother me, but i agree with the dry thing, those bodies look sterile as fuck, add some shine and moisture.

How did you guys learn to draw a cock and pussy? Breasts are almost always covered but I barely see anyone give tutorials on those privates.

Should I start looking at pornos?

>>2133493

what are you doing on the internet young man

>>2133493
A combination of 2D and 3D porn, find artists that you think draw the genitals the way you want to draw them, start drawing and after that compare them
and see why you don't look as good, then also compare them to some 3D material to understand better why they were stylized the way they did, be careful though, i notice
many supposed good artist out there that draw bad genitals, mostly western ones ironically, maby becaous most draw single female in saxy poses and are rarely focused on actual sex and genitals, so choose carefully.

>>2133500
Thank you.

There are quite a lot of dicks I like from my doujin collection. Guess it's time to make first dick reference folder.

>>2133493
11k photos

>>2133493
>Should I start looking at pornos?
You can't draw if you're blind, anon.

>>2133421
>Or should I just look at references?

>>2132106
might wanna push those values

>>2131945
>>2132019
blog?

>>2133617
http://bbc-chan.tumblr.com

>>2133642
with how many times you've had to ask that I wonder why you people don't just name fag to make it easier on everyone.

>>2133750
4chan is about being anonymous and if you namefag then you're breaking the culture.
And if you break the culture, you like pineapples on pizza

>>2133642
He cant just resist posting his blog.

>>2133750
>>2133785
Stay mad. Stay salty. Stay jelly.

>>2133785
is there a problem with me posting my blog, if people aks? why would i exactly have to resist posting it? am I going to be more chrome and shiny in valhalla?

btw, someone else did it. feels nice.

How the heck do I draw this? The only reference I got is some Chinese comics x-rays.

How do I into this type of lineart for vn?
I'm trying to work with 2x resolution but my lineart still sucks and too thick compared to this, should I work on 4x and export it as 25% resolution?

>>2133824
The walls on the bottom give off a teeth texture to me. The top right wall bumps are perfect.
You can make them bigger in lue of smaller ones to save time

>>2133854
>make huge-ass canvas
>small brush
>???

>>2133854
Your canvas should be as big as your computer allows you to work without slowdown.

>>2132832

The left arm is too short in comparison to the right. It should fall a little lower and there should be a bend at the elbow in towards the body.

There's no curvature to the spine in the drawing, making the body look too straight and rigid. I understand the pose you're going for, but there has to be some natural bend.

Your right arm is too big. It almost looks like a leg. You can fix that.

The chest muscles are wrong. Check your reference photo again.

Is he wearing pants folded below his knees? Work on your clothing references a bit more. There's no excuse for poorly drawn clothes. The reference is out there.

Look at the bend behind the left knee in comparison to where you placed the left foot at. See how it looks awkward? Fix that.

Overall muscle structure could use some work. It's okay, but it can be better.

Perspective. Check your angles. Fix it and draw it again.

Good luck.

>>2132863

Reference photographs will help. Look into those.

>>2132865

That drawing looks like it needs serious practice time. Check your reference photo and draw it again.

>>2133273
Kyle that you? Where are you updating now, man?

>>2133380
The female character asked the right question. There has to be a reference photograph for that out there, but remember that necks don't bend that way.

Poor girl is paralyzed now. Check your reference.

>>2133886
Are you sure that's Kyle? I actually think it might not be.

>>2133273

Did the rest of her dress, suddenly grow out of her poorly rendered stomach? Is she floating on that giant piece of bubblegum, or is that a couch she's supposed to be laying on? If so, where is the cushion padding behind her head? It looks like her head is floating in space behind the bubblegum.

You forgot to draw in the right eye a little darker. The right breast must be one hell of an implant for it to just, defy gravity like that. Her left breast is cubed at the bottom.

You forgot the cast shadow on the drink. The shadows are all wrong in her hair ties.

That stomach, though. lol. Maybe next time.

mouse doodle turned into sideview attempt at ref, man, i jus wanted to draw boob loaf :c

thinkin bout increasin her to 8-9 heads, she's supposed to be taaaallllll

>>2133854
i may be wrong but i think the pen tool in photoshop was used to trace over the sketch to achieve such thin line

>>2133912

Side by side comparison with another character could help show that. Heads are nice to cut and paste to show how tall that character is, but you could benefit from the former a bit.

>>2133912
said boob loaf is currently defying gravity

>>2133273
Overall very nice, but the perspective on that glass near her tit looks really fucked. Also the tit near the previous mentioned glass should be a bit higher up (as a previous anon has mentioned) because of her torso twist and lifted arm. The shape also seems a bit odd and it doesn't look as full of volume and softness as the other breast. Genitals need moisture/shine, looks dry.

>>2133917
oh, i kno, i jus wanted her kinna around 6'6-6'9 without her head gettin too big

>>2133918
it's supposed to be like the sweater is squeezin the boobs together along with raising them up a bit, kinna like a sports bra (i can't seem to find a decent ref of a sport bra with comparable sized bubs from the side :\ )

>>2133766
Thats fucking retarded, they're here persistently providing content and expecting people to recognize it; this is when fucking names should be used.

Christ you faggots are useless.

>>2133787
Huur duur not even me shitbag.

>>2133962
real sweaters are not vacuum-sealed around the boobs like that tho
plus it'd be mad uncomfy to have tits that large squeezed that tightly together

>>2133910
>>2133457
lmao jesus fuck

How do you guys stay motivated working on a piece? the longer i stare at my current WIP the more i hate it.
Have never done much of details before so this made me sick to continue, plus gotta fix some perspective things, especially her left arm and her face

>>2134046
i never do lineart, ever, because i can't be arsed
also her head is gigantic. whoa

am i porn yet

>>2134055
holy shit
that is the most fucked up chest i've ever seen

>>2134046
I never learned to deal with it, and I virtually never finish anything as a result.

>>2134046
I stopped doing linework and started doing the linework from the start if that make sense, basically i don't do the messy stench process anymore,
it took some time to get used to it, but after you get it down it's way better, you will still have to do some cleaning with the eraser here and there but
i will never spend hours tracing the same sketch ever again, you just have to make it a goal to improve your line control and decide clearly what you
want to draw from the start, it sounds unorthodox and cheeky at first, but it's definitely doable with some experience.

>>2133910
>>2133457
Classic /ic/. Once they see something they can never achieve they resort to insults and belittling.

Superflat color edition, go!

Im awful with color.

>>2134065
I try to do this to the best of my abilities and sometimes i can pull it off, but still usually need 2-3 sketch passes before the final one, especially if no ref and heavily depends on what im drawing.
Used to do it alot but recently had a break from drawing so the muscle memory and draw brain is not what it used to be
Its good advice, definitely going to work on it again!

>>2134084
Seriously I've seen this fucking image so many times now and I am just sick of watching it go unfixed - it aches me, as the entire image is just fucked from step one - gesture. I will never understand you people posting the same piece day after day improving/working on it little by little. Looking back in the threads, this is the 10th time you posted this. The initial sketch dates back 7 days, on 06/20/15 and it's basically the same as it is now. >>2126516 is the sketch. Flip back and forth with your current version and think about how you spent your last week.

>>2134100

The funny thing is its worse than the initial sketch.

>>2134046
I am so glad I am not the only one I thought it was just me being lazy or self loathing. I feel incredibly guilty spending all day on one thing rather than dishing out more figures and sketches that I really need.

>>2134046
>>2134107
You lose motivation because you lack knowledge/skill and have to stop to guess, breaking your flow completely. You only have two options, deal with it, guess quickly and move onto the next piece, or drop the piece and look for the information to patch what you are lacking on.

latest panel

>>2134100
The first three days saw no major improvement, as it wasnt until then that anyone said anything, the past 4 have been a mix of redrawing it and dayjob. However you say this now, instead of then? And even so, sloppily. Im sure some here will understand but just telling me gesture isnt any sort of criticism. Id love to understand what you mean, but I don't unless you're actually willing to explain.

>>2134136
He simply wants to say, that stop trying to finish your pieces and focus on practicing fundamentals (gesture drawing is a fundamental practice tool to improve one's stylization and technique). I would go as far as suggesting you to study anatomy and perspective a lot more via actual studies of human figure.
Seriously anon, what you are doing here with your attempt at fixing this illustration is like polishing a turd. But the real problem is not that this turd can't be polished, the problem is you don't have the know how, and no anon in the world will magically give it to you through this board.

>>2134132
...and then she farts!

>>2134142
I knew I should have inb4d it.

eh mutant

doodle that is turning into a page full

tell me your secrets

How often yo guys replace your nubs?

>>2134147
>>2134148
this isn't porn

>>2134066

>>2134084
I'd say you've already come this far a second time, anon. Finish it, learn from your mistakes, and move on to the next drawing or you'll be redoing this some one forever. I think it looks pretty nice though.

>>213487
It depends what year we're talking about, but the real reason why women with that body type was so popular to draw is because, back then, a little extra fat was a sign that you were healthy, and actually able to afford a lot of food.
I'm unsure when artists were able to paint real women (as opposed to using men as models), but I suppose when they finally did, they understood that the hip-to-waist ratio was seen as desirable, like I mentioned in my first post.

I am craving to see some good old paintings outside of the internet.
>tfw only moden "art" museums near me
>tfw it has a 2deep4u section where there is only photographs and strange audio playing
why live

>>2134121
This anon is correct. Sometime ago I decided to push through even after I couldn't get the anatomy right after the hundredth time, and then when I finished it, I saw what I needed to do to improve, and that's how I got better.
The motivation came after seeing my finished piece. When I don't finish something, I become embarrassed because I don't realise the potential my drawing has if I just finished the damned thing.

>>2134121
well
for me i hate doing lineart not because i have to stop to guess, but rather because i tend to draw pretty intricate stuff
so like
lining it is a nightmare, so i just leave it as a somewhat tidied-up sketch (pic related)

>>2134179
Woops, was on mobile, meant to quote >>2133487

>>2134179
*Modern art
Woops, was on mobile. Meant to reply to >>2133487

What am I doing wrong?

how the hell do i draw appealing buttholes when i'm not really into them myself
i don't like how noill and co. draw them either, they look prolapsed or something

>>2134141
Thank you, if this is what >>2134100 had said in the first place, even now or four days ago I would have apreciated it, as it is actually a constructive base to work with.

>>2134175
I understand, thank you.

>>2133750
BBC style is kinda generic (not in the bad way)

it's not stylized in a way that you instantly recognized it, I think the use of pink lines is a give away recently though

Been staring at this for so long I can't tell if there's any problem areas that should be fixed before I start coloring it fully.

Of course, in exporting this I did notice that I never went back and added her eye, so that's one thing.

>>2133886
>>2133908
>>2133273

that's kyle the color palates unfinished looking shadows and renders and lighting is just like him

also thick chicken legs

looks decent overall

>>2134248
her torso is like... ramrod straight, whereas her crotch/legs are positioned as if she were lying back more. looks awkward.

Still learning appendages. :( Lemme know what I'm lacking in so I can google it or something.

>>2134289
im no expert, but

>>2134289
you lack fundamentals

learning to draw figures, doesn't mean you first learn to draw the head, then the torso, then the appendages, and so on.
if you want to be good, start from the fundamentals and learn how EVERYTHING works.
tl;dr stop learning appeandages and start learning to draw.

>>2134121
Makes sense, its like you say, my flow gets interrupted becuase im not sure how to deal with x. Plus im also inexperienced in the process of finishing a piece overall so im trying a bunch of diffrent stuff to see how i want to work. So i feel like i have to push through just to get the experience, even if the drawing is flawed. Like >>2134182 said

>>2134009
oh, i know, i just find it reaaaalllly cute when cartoony anime styles have that kinna boobtube look (it doesn't look good straight from the side tho an i should prolly go for a more realistic look if i have to show that angle)

oh, an on the tightness, she isn't normally that size, bein a cow and all, her chest sometimes swells with milk, which, if she's in the mood, she enjoys the mildly painful swelling/pressure and inevitable release but usually it's just annoying and messes up her clothes (i realize now probably nobody cares, haha, thank you for the tip tho. the tit tip... the tipt nwn)

>>2134352

>>2134353
Do you think it's possible for a chick to shove that up her vagina?

>>2134289
you lack an eraser

>>2134359
the regular beats pill? sure.
the xl maybe, if they try hard and believe in themselves

>>2134190
Give her expression.
Plant her in a scene

>>2134248
Face is guy but has vagoo

>>2134359
I've seen a picture of a girl with one in her vagina so yes, I definitely believe it could be done.

>>2134084
Honestly that one anons redline gave me a far more intense boner.
Your porn is sterile, it's okay though you'll get there eventually.

my process so far, from right side to left corner, then move down to the bottom. Besides the shit anatomy, Im trying to figure out how the skins texture can also be a factor in catching a "sort of" appealing look.

>>2134408
goofy as fuck

>>2134408
s-sorry it gave me cringe

>>2134066

And you're an idiot. The artist, who CLEARLY has "fundamental" issues, don't need to hear how good their crap drawings are. Artists need to hear the truth about their work.

Real critiques point out flaws. In that particular artist's case, the mistakes are there. Clear as day. But because the work is so polished and it just happens to be a drawing of Chun Li, well, let's not pay attention to the flaws.

"But they worked hard on their work. They're giving us their work for free. We should be honored, that we're bestowed such amazing work! We are not worthy! They are better than us!"

Give me a fucking break. That was an honest critique on someone's work. Not all critiques are "candy and bubblegum kisses", like the kind of garbage you find rampant on Deviant Art.

Read the critiques back better in your head next time.

>>2134084

Yes, you are VERY awful with color. You're awful at taking honest, re-developing critiques and applying them to your work, too.

Keep polishing that piece of shit.

>>2134483
>>2134488
why are you nice to me in critiques and then mean to everyone else, h-artist-kun

>>2134107

Ugh, pathetic nonsense.

Lazy artists are obvious when they answer like that. "I want people to like my work, and I want my work to look like a Japanese Master, but I'm lazy as fuck. I want to do as little work as possible, to achieve what my lazy ass wants."

You ARE lazy. You make it sound like the sweatshop professionals, dish out 10 AMAZING drawings out a day or something.

They don't.

>>2134132

The neck is too long and her shoulders are positioned incorrectly. They should slope downward in a power position.

She should be pressing down on her thighs with her hands if she's taking a power shit like that, unless the badly referenced toilet she's sitting on, has enough room near the rear of the bowl for her hands to sit on like that.

You got lazy on the depiction of the vagina (we magically sprout a nether region like that when we take a shit), and you got lazy on the feet.

Nice touch on the inconsistent line curves underneath her breasts. The folds on her shirt are wrong.

This is a poor example of a woman taking a shit. It doesn't even look like she's taking a shit, it looks like she's just posing for the camera with badly drawn tremble lines.

Nice square toilet paper roll, too. Is that a navel piercing or a tattoo on her abs?

I don't care how long this took you. Draw it again.

>>2134408
It's good that you tried out a different pose. I tried drawing that pose, but I didn't like it, and instead changed a few things.

Try drawing the human skeleton for a while. I know it may seem tedious at first, so you should remember that your anatomy will improve hugely once you start.

>>2134494

I think I found someone who likes my honest critiques. Yummy.

>>2134483
just stop namefagging and everyone who is not being criticised by you won't give a shit about your critique.

>>2134505
>This is a poor example of a woman taking a shit. It doesn't even look like she's taking a shit, it looks like she's just posing for the camera with badly drawn tremble lines.
exactly what I wanted and what my client wants
>I don't care how long this took you. Draw it again.
about 10 minutes for the sketch and another 15-20 for the inking
exactly the amount of time I intended to spend on this and about the right amount of time to make a profit

This art is generic and I don't really give too much thought about the stuff you are criticising. Mainly it serves me as a tool to develop my technique and I'm being paid in the process.

Anyway, I agree with your entire critique. I was simply already aware of all this stuff.

>>2134505
>It doesn't even look like she's taking a piss, it looks like she's just posing for the camera.
Nice. I exactly nailed what I wanted and what my client wants
>I don't care how long this took you. Draw it again.
About 10 minutes for the sketch and another 15-20 for the inking.
Exactly the amount of time I intended to spend on this and about the right amount of time to make a profit off of it.

This art is generic and I don't really give too much thought about the stuff you are criticising. Mainly it serves me as a tool to develop my technique while being paid in the process.

Anyway, I agree with your entire critique (except the part about the vagina, which is hidden intentionally), you simply didn't tell me anything I wasn't aware of before. Hm, maybe the fact that the tremble lines are shit. I can work on that.

>>2134518
>just stop namefagging
No no. I finally can hide him

>>2134530
Why would you hide him? Most of his critique is spot on. Just forget about him being a big douchebag and absorb only the useful parts.

>>2134530
I never bothered learning how to do this but how do you hide namefags?

>>2134531
Don't read critique without proofs.

>>2134505
>It doesn't even look like she's taking a piss, it looks like she's just posing for the camera.
Nice. I exactly nailed what I wanted and what my client wants
>I don't care how long this took you. Draw it again.
About 10 minutes for the sketch and another 15-20 for the inking.
Exactly the amount of time I intended to spend on this and about the right amount of time to make a profit off of it.

This art is generic and I don't really give too much thought about the stuff you are criticising. Mainly it serves me as a tool to develop my technique while being paid in the process.

Anyway, I agree with your entire critique (except the part about the vagina, which is hidden intentionally and the part about the pose being a power one which I didn't aim for), you simply didn't tell me anything I wasn't aware of before. Hm, maybe the fact that the tremble lines are shit. I can work on that.

>>2134532
put it deep inside your anus, anon

>>2134534
you mean without him first posting some work to back his knowledge with?

>>2134534
you mean without him first posting some work to back his knowledge with? i think this is irrelevant as long as the critique is spot on.
it would be nice though.

destroy me H-artistchan

>>2134641
your best asset is anatomy knowledge and good line-work. but here also lies your biggest flaw. you emphasize anatomy and musculature so much, all your drawings lose spontaneity and gesture and become stiff and lifeless.
try giving more freedom to your art by keeping the gesture less refined and more stylized so that the your own expressiveness pops out more.
this way your drawing won't look so sterile and stiff anymore.

>>2134641
your best asset is anatomy knowledge and good line-work. but here also lies your biggest flaw. you emphasize anatomy and musculature so much, all your drawings lose spontaneity and gesture and become stiff and lifeless.
try giving more freedom to your art by keeping the gesture less refined and more stylized so that your own expressiveness pops out more.
i'm sure this way your art will also gain more dynamicity, and won't look so sterile and stiff anymore.

>>2132106
You didn't fuck it up, you fucked me up. Good job.

Probably not going to finish it but some advice would be nice.

>>2134641
Share your brush for lineart

>>2134641

I always enjoy seeing your work here, and just as an anonymous critique/nitpick, I wish the tip of the ears and the right toe wasn't cropped, it hurts the composition a bit, but that might just be the screencap you posted on here not the final piece itself.

>>2134665
nice thanks! It might sound like an excuse, but a lot of times with commissions its more difficult to be fluid and loose because I have that list of specific things to include from the commissioner and I don't want to deviate from it.
Now that I'm thinking about it though that is really an excuse, I need to step up and get good at controlling a loose gesture so it has energy but still adheres to given specifics.
Are the figures here more appealing?

>>2134709

im dying

>>2134709
Same anon as before.
Fuck me sideways dear sir! That's exactly what I was talking about and what you should totally try to emphasize in all your drawings. This loose gesture has much more power than a piece that is technically more refined, but it's exactly that refinement that makes it lose it's expressiveness.
Also, I completely understand that commission work takes it's toll on your art. It's the same for me.

Tits and cum guy here

>>2134725

I'm not him, but I remember an artist from somewhere saying that you should REALLY push your gesture out to compensate from when you "lose" some of the dynamics when you render out a piece, like when you clean up a sketch you are removing a lot of the lines so it loses some energy, similar process for when you go from the gesture stage to the "pulling out forms" stage.

>>2134726
looks kinda "inspired" by top right

>>2134755
it's a really common angle/pose...

>>2134755
Or every blowjob ever? Why are you passive-aggressively accusing him of photobashing, dimwit. Or are you just shilling a shitty porn comic

>>2134755
its not even close kek

>>2134714
>>2134709
>>2134714
>>2134714
>>2134714

>>2134755
please kill yourself with those quotation marks

>>2134726
more please

I'm actually painting something now, I shall post again tonight.

>>2134488
I'm awful at taking vague, nondescript critiques because they are vague and nondescript. I want to learn but that's difficult to do when people placing their criticisms assume or dance around issues.

>>2134760
>photobashing
wut

>>2133785
I am one of the people who aksed way back for his blog, I wish he posted more of his bbc art as well. What is the problem with posting the link if people ask, jeez!

>>2134196

Other than big dude's right arm reaching miles far and everything knee-down still looking shamefully horrible, how the hell do I push more life into lines on the sketch stage?

>>2134804
>vague
>nondescript

You got a few quick redlines from people and still didn't fix much. Stop being a little shit.

>>2134822

>>2134826
exaggeration of pose to imply movement and/emphasize action

homeboy up top look like he's trynna be very careful an not fuck his pal up which makes him look very restrained/stiff/bored/no fun zoned. have him like up on his tip toes, puttin his full weight behind his cock as he jams it up the other dude's ass. also, have him pushing the other dude down into the sheets/bed by the neck, that should emphasize the whole "he's choking him thing (and also make it easier to curve his back so that the line of action flows directly into big dude's cock).

also, have lil dude's arms bent a bit more (but don't obscure his face) so that big dude doesn't have to reach into infinity and beyond to hold him down.

in general, study lines of action so you can more effectively understand why i made the suggestions i made an apply that to future works. teach a man to fish and all~

>>2134837
also the leg on the lil dude is muffed up, go look up how legs connect into the ass an what that whole hip/ass/upper leg area of muscle groups does when bent at such an angle.

>>2134805
practically tracing or drawing "slightly different" over an existing photo/ref think kr0nprinz

>>2134840
>kr0nprinz

copying from reference =/= tracing/photobashing

>>2134842
right it's worse because you're taking more than one photo/picture and doing very little additional work after you mangle and slap them together

my bad

>>2134837
>>2134839
This was a great analyzation all around. Thank you a darned plenty, I'll definitely be looking into all this.
Endless kudos.

>>2134847
>copying from reference
>worse than tracing/photobashing

I already know your work is shit.

>>2134837
>line of action
Holy shit. How come I never figured this out?

>>2134830
I fixed what I could gather from those redlines and what people said. Sorry, it wasnt that much.

>>2134946
I know this is a porn thread, but it feels so strange seeing real porn on /ic/.

>>2134709
woow really like these! you got a blog?

>>2132019
>>2132106

>>2134847
>reference is bad

anyone knows why in manga studio when i use perspective ruler the lines snap to the guidelines but when i turn manga studio off and on it dosent snap anymore ?

>>2134755
what is that from?

>>2135221
is it the colors? it's the colors, isn't it?

>>2135360
I think it's from JABcomix. Not sure though.
http://www.jabcomix.com/main.php

>>2134755
You have got to be joking... It doesn't even look remotely "inspired" by that! And you could easily find a heap of blow jobs drawings or photo's from a similar angle completely randomly, it's really fucking common in porn!

errors ?

>>2134132
Really like your line work, nice line weight.

>>2135480
His smile being obscured by her arm might ruin his expression, but I guess that's the only way for her to stay in that ridiculous position. Male's right hand is a bit awkward, maybe grab something like her right leg and pull it up from around her knee instead (I mean it's already almost in that position).

>>2135487
>ridiculous position

>>2135497
It's like she weighs nothing, no weight on either leg only her one arm. Either iron dick or thighs of helium.

>>2135480
Looks pretty good. But her pussy looks more like a scrotum. Also, the butt hole should be positioned a bit further back, right now it looks almost like it's positioned where the vaginal opening should be. Look at some pron refs of a similar position and you'll see what's wrong. Also her thighs are a bit too long and the guys arms are small (particularly when you compare it too his legs)

>>2135499
>>2135502
will fix

>>2135480
her legs aren't planted anywhere so she has no real way of movin up an down his dick without jus like bouncin her weight down which is jus awkward and wouldn't really feel that good for either party. the dude could jus push up with his hips but he's not really in the proper position to be able to do that. in general looks super awkward/uncomfortable as fuck, not to mention the composition is super awkward as well.

hmmm, let's seee, uhhhh, other than scrapin the whole thing, i think you could maybe get away with bending his back more so he has a place to place his upper weight, and then he could more easily thrust with his hips. i'd also have him place both hands under the legs/around the ass so he can maybe move her up and down his cock more easily. also her boobies are outta line with her chest, work on that.

>>2135368
No, it's you being a giant faggot degenerate.

>>2135511
what if he just came and its the end of sex ?

>>2135482
thank you!

>>2135515
Can you be more specific. I'd really like to know what triggered this response.

Dayum, I was sure it was dem colors.

>>2135528
Probably being a furry

>>2135528
Probably the subject material.

The boys face is also really weird looking, other than that the drawing is decent, the coloring is okay but not amazing.

>>2135546
I suppose you are not the triggered anon.
Anyway, never been a furry, never been into cuckold bbc, never been gay, but I really have no problems drawing all these subjects.
I really don't understand what's the big deal lol.

>>2134166
not yet

I'm posting this here b/c I posted the lines here

>>2135720
big guy

>>2135720
>dog antrho with toe nails

The pic is mostly great, but that is something that makes me recoil.

Accurate onomatopoeias for this please. I'm not sure these.

>>2135725
for you

Here's the next one.Gonna do 4.

>>2135799
Nice studies. Not really sure If there's anything to criticize. Maybe the cock's render not being as good as the girl's face. Are you using reference for both?

>>2134726
>>2135799
in both of these the girl's ear looks pretty small and weirdly placed

>>2135720
>>2135728
I agree; clawed feet would look better.

>>2135810
Top attachment at brow line, bottom at jaw, Looks fine to me

>>2135799
the cock is too small and not hairy : (

>>2134641
we love u gabe

>>2135870
>we

who is "we"?

>>2135855
The anatomy is quite fucked up no matter the stylization, but I fukken love the gesture.

>>2135872
Obviously all the people that love him.

>>2135858
This is some hot shit, anon! Show me more.

>>2135855
The anatomy is quite fucked up no matter the stylization, but I fukken love the gesture.

>>2135872
Obviously all the people that love him.

>>2135858
This is some hot shit, anon! Share some more of your love.

>>2135907
>people
there was only one anon speaking

>>2135908
looks like Nami

>>2135858
Hot as fuck anon. I hope you make it.

>practicing my erotic gesture traditionally with charcoal
>been a long time
>accidentally broke anatomy
>click ctrl+z
>mfw
Anyone ever got this?

Give it to me straight /ic/, I don't usually do these sort of perspectives.

Give it to me straight /ic/, I don't usually do these sort of perspectives.

>>2135973
not only are the hands freakishly deformed, but the one on the penis is terrifyingly small compared to her head
head seems too big in general tho it might be the hair

>>2135973
If the hand on the penis doesn't strike you immediately as weird, you've been staring at it for too long. Go from there.

>>2135858
That's a Chel-tier expression if I ever saw one

>>2135981
>>2135983
Fug it's always the hands that get me, what a walking stereotype I am.

>>2135728
>>2135818
what kind of anthro are you two even into?

>>2135994
Stuff where it's an anthropomorphic animal person that isn't just literally an animal head, fur color and tail slapped on a human body.

Things like armpit, chest, pubic hair or fingernails/toenails on anything with fur is just wrong. Also, animu faces, human teeth, etc. Just shows laziness and lack of creativity on the part of the artist.

>>2136012
check out kemono stuff if that's what you're looking for

>>2135994
I like and look at all sorts of things because my first foray into the 'pro' (lel) world will be furry art. It's important to know what's already out there.

>>2133582
We'll just assume that cloudy out so that light gets refracted everywhere.

>>2135799
you got a blog or something bro?

>>2136012
It's funny when sick, deluded fucks like you think they have standards.

>>2136086
Geez Louise, Anon, this post is so salty, if you dunked it into a lake it would turn into seawater.

What are you doing in this thread if you're so pure and intelligent?

>>2136105
What the fuck are you talking about?
I'm saying it's funny when sick fucks like you complain about something so arbitrary. Look at the hilariously stupid picture you mentioned. Show that to a normal person, and they wouldn't know what to think.
But what did you notice? That the 200 foot, tank-crushing, muscle-bound dogman with the gigantic human dick and police hat has toe nails.

>>2135967
I usually draw on a tablet, so whenever I make a mistake while drawing traditionally, muscle memory guides my hand to the "undo" button.

>>2136121
I'm sorry that your parents didn't hug you enough as a child.

>>2136124
I have to wonder how much your parents hugged you, if that's what turned you into a dog fucker.

>>2136126
What makes you think I'm attracted to your mother?

>>2136128
You seem like the type who'd be more attracted to my father, assuming he had dog claws.

>>2136132
Now that's just weak, looks like you're burned out. I'm off. Good night.

>>2136135
>I totally won and now I'm going to leave.
Heh, yeah. Convincing.

>>2136086
>being mad at people that exploit autists for easy money

>>2136135
That wasn't weak. You just got BTFO. You're going to have to hold onto that.

Nothing is more hilarious than degenerates who pretend they have standards worth anything.

>>2136140
You do realize that the vast majority of people who draw furry shit actually are furries, right?
And the guy in question specifically pointed out his preferences.

Regardless, this thread has been derailed enough.

>>2136150
>You do realize that the vast majority of people who draw furry shit actually are furries, right?
Is this 2005? Who gives a shit.

I havent drawn anything today, should I just take the day off, or should I study something, or something different?

>>2136171
study anatomy pls

>>2136171
Try to practice strokes with your arm, long sweeping ones. It will do wonders.

>>2135858
this is so hot

>>2136121
If you are an artist and an open minded person, then there really is no problem in giving critique about someone's technique, no matter the subject. And b4 child porn blah blah.

>>2135730
make delicious mouth sounds and use them for sfx

You people need to stop losing your fucking minds over anthro art.

Even though I think it's a weird genre I don't lose my shit over it; it's still made by artists wanting to be critiqued and that's why we're here.

>>2136255
Pretty much this. In fact, I could make your statement better by just writing:

>You people need to stop losing your fucking minds

>>2136171
Study the fundamentals in the sticky.

Don't use color until you study how value and color works.

>>2136255
I kinda agree, but it's a bit frustrating that all these fucked up fetishes have ended up making up the majority of posts.
There is so much weird gay porn, furry shit and BBC.

>>2136303
how do you make boobs flop in mid air?

ug

>>2136309
The most frustrating part is faggots like you who have to make a fuzz about it instead of contributing with their own art. You're on 4chan, get a thicker skin.

Would this type of face/eyes work for porn?

>>2136355
im not an expert by any stretch of the imagination
however
ur thighs be messed up yo

>>2136355
got any link for your art anon?

>>2136370
thank u

>>2136371
sure

http://keppok.tumblr.com/

>>2136370
you made it worse

>>2136384
may i ask how so

>>2136386
if you have to ask you shouldn't redline tbh

>>2136388
regardless of whether i should redline or not, i would like to know what i did wrong. can you provide me with this information?

>>2136386
The legs/shoes are kinda fucked and some areas need more fixing but I think they stylized it enough to be more erotic than 100% correct.

That's what you look for in porn, a lot of porn artists break anatomy and perspective slightly to get that certain look.

Your redline isn't shitty but the initial picture gives off a much different vibe.

>>2136389
her was more appealing.

>>2136391
i see. personally i don't like fudged anatomy if it's noticeable. so i think my opinions are going to differ from the majority in this thread. i will refrain from redlining in the future.
>>2136392
this is vague and unhelpful.

>>2136395
>i will refrain from redlining in the future.
I don't think that's necessary.

>>2136389
Left leg is shorter on your redline, it might look correct except for left leg but its still shit for porn, big head and exaggerated proportions are more favourable on erotic content than a realistic shoe. Op had fucked up torso tho, still is better than your redline.

>>2136395
>personally i don't like fudged anatomy if it's noticeable
True. A lot of people that rely heavily on style end up sucking.

I think there are cases in which it's acceptable. People who have an eye for it and know what they're doing... that's pretty much what most anime is anyways.
Getting back to the basics is helpful, especially for those of us who draw porn and rely heavily on erotic styling.

don't let the assholes get you upset.

>>2136398
how i view porn seems to differ from most people in this thread. therefore i don't think my input is very valuable here.

>>2136405
good

>>2136370
thanks for your help again

Hey guys could you comment a skech of my old fantasy?

>>2136360
Yeah, and 4chan has always ridiculed furry shit and use cuck as an insult. Even the gay stuff usually revolves around traps.

>>2136392
>I like broken anatomy

kill yourself

>>2136495
maybe it would be better for you if you started thinking with your own head?
just a suggestion.

>>2136395
>my opinions are going to differ from the majority in this thread

That because the majority of this thread has shit taste. Nothing but a load of "muh style" faggots.

>>2136361
She looks sad

>>2136470
I dont like it.
There's no erotic emotion for me to feel looking at this picture. I cant make love to her

>>2135858
i'd be careful with that blue/gray unless you get the lighting just right else you're dangerously close to drawing zombie porn

>>2136470
Made me think of that guy that posted some really creepy/weird loli porn years ago that was literally eye-searing. I think it had mushrooms in it. I almost wish I had saved it, but god that shit would haunt my dreams and I'm glad I barely remember it. It was like trypophobia on steroids.

>>2136566
i imagined they're standin in some body of water, like in a cave or swimmin pool so you got that blue bounce

>>2136506
fuck you

>>2136552
I'm working on abuse stuff

been drawing for 9 hours today, kill me

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>>2136687
>>2136687
>>2136687

>>2135973
That is just horrible. I'm glad I don't have to live your life.