/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Reposting from last thread in the hopes of getting some things to keep in mind when im doing photo studies

>>2129578

Just finished this tattoo design for a friend. Any thoughts?

>>2129578

>>2129593
if you're going to "draw" digitally on a scan of analog paper at least make sure the scaling of the "paper" matches the size of the "marks" you're making digitally. At the moment the paper looks too "small" for the level of detail/thinness of lines you're getting with your mark-making.

Also avoid letting your marks look digital (jaggy eraser marks, smooth lines with unlimited opacity variation).

Just putting digital sketches on a paper texture looks cheap

As for the actual drawings, your line quality is super chicken-scratchy and noncommittal. You're using, like, 5 insecure-looking lines to express what one confident line could. Not sure if this is just how you draw or maybe a result of sketching digitally (I can't sketch for shit on a tablet - the disconnect is jarring - I'd rather sketch by hand and paint digitally)...

In the former case, I'd gather you're using digital as an "escape" for your shortcomings traditionally - using it as an excuse to make as many mistakes as you want and undo them away. I'd recommend practicing more traditionally - perhaps with a pen to encourage yourself from making unsure/noncommittal marks. You shouldn't just be making marks for the sake of making marks.

If it's the latter, I would just say draw traditionally then scan it.

Oh, and don't that the details of the face converge slightly in perspective. The lines you're placing features on are parallel to each other even though the heads are in perspective. It usually helps me to imagine the head as a rectangular box then push/pull details in/out in accordance with the perspective of the box. at the moment your perspective is isometric and makes the features on the far side appear large.

>>2129606
was in reply to
>>2129599
nice ninja edit, anon :P

>>2129598
I would make the teeth a bit more visible and have more blood on the top of the face. Also the lower mandible is too pointed

self portrait in prog.

Little mastercopy from last night

>>2129625
And one from this afternoon where I changed the composition and a few small things from the original

>>2129606
> At the moment the paper looks too "small" for the level of detail/thinness of lines you're getting with your mark-making.
Not sure if I understand what you mean, why I would I want to show off the paper texture?

>Just putting digital sketches on a paper texture looks cheap
Is that what everyone else thinks?

I'm aware my lines aren't great because I don't practice enough, that was my first practice sketch after 2 weeks of playing Witcher 3
You tell me if my traditional lines look any better

>at the moment your perspective is isometric and makes the features on the far side appear large.
I can only kinda see what you mean on the bottom left sketch

Thanks

How am I doing?
(sorry for bad quality)

>>2129637
>Not sure if I understand what you mean, why I would I want to show off the paper texture?
You're treating the paper texture as just a background you can throw down at any size or resolution in relation to the sketches you put on top of it and it's resulting in it looking very disingenuous and obviously digital... in which case I'd say why even put the texture there? It's not emulating reality, it's just an arbitrary, poorly scaled texture you through behind your sketch.

Maybe "resolution" would be a better word to describe what I'm trying to describe - you're using a scan of a very small portion of paper as a background for a sketch that would easily take up a whole page of paper. I can tell this because of the scale of the details. It looks unconvincing because there's not a medium I can think that would create marks that accurately on such a small surface area.

In other words, the objects you're trying to present as a unified piece (paper texture and sketches) appear to be different sizes, which creates a disconnect and detracts from the believability of it looking like an analog sketch... not that digital sketches are bad but the arbitrary paper texture is distracting if you're not going to incorporate it believably.

>You tell me if my traditional lines look any better
Naw, your traditional exhibits the same issues, honestly.

Also if you're going to crosshatch, don't just scribble all over the place. Use the cross-hatching to "wrap" around the form and create depth (pic related).

The hatching your currently using just flattens your image and looks unplanned.

>>2129655
if you can, buy a sketchbook with coloured paper and a white pencil, it's hard to get those mid tones/highlights right on white paper
the faces look good, although the older woman's face is a bit skewed (especially the cheeks) but i think your main problem here is hair. you're sort of drawing it as one big mass, which i suppose is fine if you're focusing on the face, but is still worth mentioning. here's a good thing about drawing hair: http://gurneyjourney.blogspot(apparently this is spam).co.uk/2008/04/hair-ribbon-secret.html

>>2129679
I've already thought about buying those sketchbooks, but i can't find them in my town and I dont feel like buying it online.
Also thanks for the hair advise.

Anybody have any crits about the anatomy/lighting in this so far? :0

>>2129694
What is lighting the under side of his boobs??

>>2129694
What is lighting the under side of her boobs??

>>2129656
fair enough, so basically I should just get better at drawing

>>2129701
I was trying to do a bounce light off of her arm/lap but I guess it doesn't look like that @_@ I'll try reworking it!

i can't draw but this is honestly the only remotely decent thing i've churned out in my life
critique the shit out of it and don't fucking hold back

poor quality i know

????

>>2129625
>>2129634
These are beautiful, tell me more about your work? What inspires you? how old are you? how many years have you been doing this ect?

Sorry for posting this for like the third time, but I am just about done. Please tell me what you think.
Thank you.

>>2129634
Great motion and color.

>>2129634
You gonna make it anon never stop

>>2129728
Do you have a higher resolution image? Right now it looks blurry and details are hard to make out. I like where this is going.

>>2129730
Thanks! These are just studies really, so aren't anything special. If you google the filenames you can find the artists who I copied to learn from. I don't think I deserve much credit for them. If you want to see my "creative" work, then you can see a little bit of stuff here: http://andrewsonea.tumblr.com/

My actual website has more finished pieces than my tumblr, but all the recent stuff is in password protected sections because of NDAs. As for inspiration, I guess I am inspired mostly by other artists as well as things I see outside in nature, like I really enjoy taking mental notes of lighting and colour and stuff when I go on walks. I just turned 22, and have been painting for about 5.5 years with a few breaks in the middle (longest was around 8 months). Hope that answers your questions...

>>2129737
>>2129739
Cheers!

>>2129746
nah sorry, it's a photo of a painting i got taken for me and i can't find a bigger copy. But thank you very much, this is my first post on this board

what d-do you think so far?
im gettin kind of weird, seein where it goes

I would appreciate C&C on this. I got a little bit last night and it looks much better for it.

>>2129728
omg I think I know you,
do you normally paint portraits with very long necks? (purposefuly)
I think I might go to school with you

I got three things from today. first two are 20 minute figure drawings

>>2129792
i hadn't seen her in a few months and when i showed her these she was so excited. i always have a hard time drawing her

>>2129794
and then there's this

>>2129792
>>2129794
>>2129796

It's all good till that chair.

studies from last night

>>2129806
its a stool. a bloody stool

>>2129792
>>2129794
really nice

>>2129818
Don't get sassy with me in English.

>>2129815
I have no c&c. These looks great!

>>2129615
Right leg looks like a midget's, forearms also very short and the face is pointing slightly downwards and yet we see nose from below.
Overall you need to work on your proportios.

And for the love of god flip the shit so I don't have to download it and do it myself.

Usually work with charcoal but ive been playing around with ink lately

>>2129893

>>2129893
Charcoal

>>2129815
getting there

>>2129898
forgot to upload pic because im a autist

>>2129854
Thank you for the critique! I'm actually still in the progress of shading those all. I like to hop around when I work on stuff so the lines will go down way further (the forearm shading and the leg shading will go off the screen) & ill be sure to go back on the nose. Thanks again!

Quick Rembrandt study

>>2129769
I think it is approaching something fantastic but the first impression I got was that it looked incomplete.

Ways I think it could be improved:
- Make the white wisps of hair blend more into the rest of the hair
- Refine the hair and ears
- Put some indication of a nose, even if stylized, just a blank space looks strange
- Right now the composition is such that the eyes go straight to the face because the top part lacks anything interesting. How about adding some details near the top of the image that guide the eyes in a pleasing way (such as waves of hair) until they reach the face
- It's a floating head and I think that's why it looks so incomplete to me. Maybe some faint indication of the rest of her?
- This is minor but her eyelashes look strange, like porcupine quills.

There are MANY things I love about it:
- eye pupils are gorgeous
- lovely BG
- beautiful color on the lips
- subtle flower shaped eyeshadow
- delicate details on the tearducts, stitches (I think this kind of delicate detail is what you can carry over into the hair)

>>2129656
owait I get what you mean by the paper texture resolution now lmao, yea I should find a better more subtle paper texture

I wish to git gud but this is the best i come up with if i extend myself to draw for over an hour, sometimes even my sketches look better than finished drawings
How can i improve?

Critic is welcome

imagine if it's not cancer and just too much wanking? that's be good

*cough* *cough* *ahem*


buye my art

>>2129734
Well I'm six hours too late but maybe you'll see this.

I like what you've done but here left elbow is fucked up and her muscles on her right forearm is disproportionately large for here biceps and triceps. You forgot to put her nipples and her hair on her back looks terrible. Face is quite good.

imagination :/

>>2130030
That right leg seems weird. Just make some gestures

First time posting in the draw thread, been spending my time in the beginner one until now.
About to start fixing this up and inking it. Any glaring mistakes?

>>2130069
Legs a bit stiff, but waist up is fantastically handsome. Save the hands (they get better with practice, draw 5 a day and you're on your was in a good week or 2) I love the cleanliness of your construction.

Any good sources where I can find well lit faces?

I want to get better with faces but images are hard to come by.

>>2130069
Nice right hand, I assume this is a tribute to Anthony Jones.

>>2130069
I want more penis and thighs please < 33

1/2

2/2

Thinking how to connect description with drawing. Now it looks unbalanced and masses don't match.

10minute studies

I always run out of canvas, I am not actively avoiding hands and feet
is there a good way of space control? because I've been having trouble with it since forever and I don't seem to get better at this. maybe use bigger paper?

>>2129598
i don't think it would work very well as a tattoo, your friend should give that to their tattoo artist to re-design into more of a tattoo-style sketch, no offense to you though!
>>2129694
her legs look extremely uncomfortable, have you used a reference? also fix the collar bones. feet need adjusting as well

>>2130165
Loving the crosshatching, where did you learn?

Canvas economy is pretty much just about defining the area you're going to draw in and not going over. Basically, defining a picture plane; both in your mind and on paper.

>>2130069

don't draw edges and straight lines on your characters. always swooshy, fleshy looking curves. like the old masters. ya know? much more personality and mass.

>>2130167
thank you. I just liked crosshatching so I started to do it myself. but I am still struggling with it, like, I don't know how to cross hatch a cylinder properly.
thanks for the advice.
to be honest; I shouldn't have done any shading for 10minute studies. the models already moved on and I wasn't even finished with the basics. so for the next few life drawing classes I'll focus on canvas economy and getting the basic shapes down in time.

>>2130108
Thank you :3

>>2130133
i don't even know who he is

>>2130134
what..>>2130168

>>2130168
nah :)

>>2129918

I like the area around the eyes but youkinda winged it and made a mess of the collar. Do it better. Apply yourselff

>>2129721
>
eyes should not be positioned on the cheeks

>>2129792

her head is HUGE

>>2130168
>don't draw edges and straight lines on your characters.
Not good advice anon.
Often a very pleasing result is a mix of curves and lines. and many old "masters" did this.

>>2130324
While I agree with you that a mix is usually ideal, I agree with the other anon within the context of hte image he is referring to. The image he was critiquing was done with an emphasis on a blocky construction rather than a naturalistic approach, and as such it feels very artificial and doll-like. The forms they are using are more akin to the way you should think about the body, not the way you the body actually looks or how you should draw it.

>>2129963
Thank you for your honest critique!

I was honestly thinking of doing a makeup nose in the same style as the flower on the eye. I'm pretty new to digital art (to be totally frank, the only art I do irl is makeup), so this critique will definitely be helpful to me.

Again, thank you!

>>2129963


Also, this is the smaller SFW version.

This is the full size version: http://i.imgur.com/7MAJQ8N.jpg

>>2130322
someone can't recognize anime when they sees it

>>2130327
Oh wow! There was something definitely distinctive about your approach. If you are a makeup artist it all makes sense now.

>>2130329
I think the change to the bottom of the image is a good one. Whether you decide to take this one further or paint a new one, I look forward to seeing your future works.

http://drawdevil.com/planet

get in planet, di/ic/ks

>>2130413
nice markmaking but i feel like your core shadows could be a little darker

the amount of value variation from local value to shadow seems a little low. a good starting point for shadow value is halfway between black and the local value

thots. I dont think I got the shading right.

>>2130425

yeah. just the shading.

>>2130413
Do you ever practice things besides faces? Would be good to practice design as well.

And for the faces I think they still feel pretty generic and can use more character/individuality. Use more ref to get more distinctive features, look up actors or whatever to help with this.

Any thoughts?

Sorry for the bad quality

>>2130461
If you're aiming for an artstyle based on line art then it's alright, if it's anything else then maybe add shades for depth.

>>2130133

>>2130344
funny shit right here

Very tiny painting of a closeup of my nose in progress.
First real time using oil paint, any helpful hints or tips on using the medium would be helpful

Pinochio on stage.
Just started inking so here's the sketch instead

>>2130749
just used up my monthly 2gb dl limit, fuck you anon

>>2129625
looks like an oldschool jay and silent bob

some fun with league.

>>2129727
its so bad it doesnt deserve a critique out of 10

here's this. don't have a name for it

>>2130890
What is this? Like saying god wouldn't kill a fly?

yesterdays work

>>2130905
or all life is precious, you flaming spergie

>>2130872
goddammit.

well, i tried.

I feel burnt out whenever I draw for most of the day with 10 min breaks every 1hr. Is there a way where I can keep myself from burning out?

>>2130933

masterbation faggot

or delving into religion and soul seeking really.

read a book.

I fucking hate my lines, is there any black magic to make it look nice?

finished this before the sun set. there's still some water on it.

there was a beautiful orange/yellow light over everything about a 30 minutes before i painted this. i wish i could've gotten a painting of that but I didn't remember I had a canvas until it was too late

>>2131012
how did you do this? it's beautiful

>>2130962
Firstly, pulling off black lines is very hard if you are going to paint.
Secondly, yes, knowledge that will make your lines look good can be acquired. There are notions specific to it such as lineweight. Don't just do lines randomly, they will have different hardness and thickness depending on what you want to achieve and convey. Two things that can help you improve lines are studying how edges work, and studying principles of composition. Arthur Wesley Dow's book on composition focuses on linework a lot and provides line exercises. Personally it made the quality of my lines improve drastically. Looking at good mangaka and comic artists' linework and trying to visualize their thought and work process obviously helps. I'd recommend studying form and figure before you get to specifics such as lines, though. Good luck.

>>2130974
Cool.

>>2130962
Also that's unrelated, but shouldn't Connie's hair be darker? Just a thought

>>2131053
Thanks anon, I want to achieve this type of shit in terms of lineart and color.

>>2130974
Do you live in mass ?A storm jest passed and this is what the sky looked like shortly after.

>>2131060
Oh, I use color picker and a reference, but yea at least as dark as Steven's don't know how I fucked that up.

>>2131041
you draw some dots and lines in ms paint, then select them, choose transparent selection, hold shift and drag the dots around. do ths with diferente collors and types of dots, and an image may apear, then you fix some details

Going for the mood, blocking out roughly in grayscale and will move over to colors and a few details.

>>2131064
i live in western ct! did you have the yellow all over the place too?

>>2131100
I think you need minimalistic amount of color. I may be wrong but I think just red, black and white would give enough of the situation

>>2131065
Yep. shit was crazy before that could barly drive in the heavy rain (I live on ct/mass line). The sky was beautiful you captured it nicely.

>>2131154
>>2131113
I mixed up the tags.

>>2131012
>>2131069
not that guy, but thank you for this new technique!

Any tips? I have just been using a 2hb graphite pencil so far, I feel the lighting and nose are off. Haven't really moved into detail on the mouth, but any thoughts on proportions?

>>2131169
you are welcome

Does anyone have a download for the book A Resource and Study Guide for Drawing from Life?

P-please

doing this

>>2131259
careful or it's gonna get muddy real quick

It's a rock.

>>2131265
Exactly. Any advice to avoid this? That's why it looks so shitty on the thumbnail?

Getting the hang of photoshop and hopefully will be able to do this shit 10x faster.

>>2131274
Don't shade with black

Just started this one. I'm really trying to get the hang of drawing lines and making them look appealing. Really failing at that right now, but I see improvement from last nights monstrosity. Tips? Besides giving up.

Study after Hopper

1

After Gervex

2

Some landscapes compositions.

Starting to get a hold on digital, I think. Trying to use textured brushes without going too crazy with them.

3

Done with the base colors I think, now I'm gonna clean it up/polish it/fix the edges/do the hair and the hand. How am I doing so far?

Self portrait from mirror. Looking for critiques.

Almost impossible to get a good photo of wet paint.

>>2131338

looks like a nigger-tranny

>>2131348
Was aiming for that

>>2131335
Lower one works well, upper is bit dull, even tho you really pointed out the bridge nicely. Maybe it's the palette, river(?) itself looks really uninteresting.

Thoughts on the composition before I start rendering? Excuse the messy linework, it was rushed.

study

>>2131339
not sure if its the shitty photo but the reflected lights on the neck isnt working too well. ear's obviously flat and the sides of the nose bridge feel very odd but that might be the photo again. looks nice all around the overall forms are good you really got the local lighting down.

>>2131339
Values seems pretty okay to me but i think it lacks hue and saturation variation. It looks kinda monochrome while theres different areas of colour on your face. Like area around mouth tend to be a bit blue-ish, red cheeks etc. Also it feels like it has warm shadows and as warm lights. When it dries out you can glaze some cool colours over. Also some hard edges here and there might be nice like on nose and eyes.

>>2131374
That right hand sure looks like a left hand to me....

>>2130069
arms off i know they're gonna be covered anyway

How do I prevent screwing myself in the buttocks by choosing bad references ? I chose this color photograph and just applied a b/w filter over it but I think its not very good for practicing values, what do you think ? How can I make an ideal b/w reference out of a color reference other than just applying the black&white filter layer? Something like boosting contrast a bit?

I definitely need more Loomis

>>2131434
study bust sculptures its the perfect plan
otherwise im falling asleep right now so i cant exactly explain what makes a picture good for value study but the one you chose has such a low range of values that its absolutely uninteresting
choose pictures with a wider range of values, more prominent forms, contrasts, interesting light settings, different materials which all interact w light differently so the values are going to be rendered differently, etc, you get the main idea, this is just a some flat photoshopped filtered photograph im puzzled as to why you would even want to draw that, why did you choose it

Firewood.

>>2130829
hahahahahah

>>2130176
He's someone who always draws scribbles for hands

It was a pretty funny joke.

>>2131280

dont shade with blacks, shade with variations of the same color.

>>2131434
>>2131441

from my experience, studying photos with subtle value changes is really challenging.

If you're really tryhard about it you will learn A LOT of soft / lost edge control and train your eye to render form within a small range of value AND actually see subtle value changes. I think this might be immensely useful for rendering within shadows and light of stuff that has more prominent lighting setups.

Yes, dramatic lighting is cool, but studying that stuff has its place too imho.

pic related is the one I've did, though I'm not really satisfied with it

>>2131100
Looks nice. The silhouettes might need to pop a little more from the background. I also feel the left focal point doesn't have enough breathing room. You might wanna extend the canvas a bit to the left and/or move elements around.

Lycka till!

>>2131434
>learn to draw before you learn to paint

how are people still not doing this

>>2131610
>learn to draw before you learn to paint
Unless you're from a prestigious Russian academy where both is taught simultaneously.

>>2131502
thanks. I tried with most of it but I felt like I needed to go that dark under those flaps. That's where the black seemed needed.

I'm trying to get better and bought that color book with the dinosaur in the front.

Like, how would I make the background simple but interesting to the eye?

>>2131670
stop shading with low opacity black

>>2130031
what is this

>>2131670
Try to use blues for shadows.

>>2130421
thanks, note taken
>>2130451
sometimes, cant really come up with nice ideas though and my visual library is pretty poor too haha.
and i will use reference more closely thanks

>>2131741
What is this character for? Why does she have that giant robot arm? I feel like you can think through it a bit more as a concept.

Take a look at this similar design by Trevor Claxton:
https://cdn.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/000/113/833/large/trevor-claxton-slothb13.jpg?1403686575

Right away I see a few key differences between it and yours:
-since the robotics probably weigh hundreds of pounds, his girl has some exoskeleton legs as well as a wider stance to support it all
-rather than just making it a big arm (why would you need that?) he has it be a knife, and then she holds a smaller knife control in her hand which shows that the arm is controlled by her regular arm, like it mirrors the movements. I think this is a cool detail that shows something about it. You don't have anything showing how she control it.
-the outfit and design are all very military looking, like it shows the purpose--she is gonna get in combat situations. Her face and body language and colours and then the giant knife and bullet belt thing show this. Yours is just standing in a reserved pose with a blank expression. Maybe you can make it like for construction or something. Have her outfit be that of a worker, and she uses that robot arm to move giant pieces beams of metal and carry things or whatever. She can have a hardhat and a tool kit. Doesn't have to be that, but she needs a purpose.
-in his there is the big battery looking this that counterbalances it. Yours has this too sorta, but I like how his is a simple cylinder so looks like it houses the energy source. Yours has some strange forms in it that hints at a function but this function isn't clear.

Think a bit more about function first, then you can focus on cool shape language stuff.

>>2131755
Also I forgot to mention it generally is a bad idea to have a large part of hte design cover up other areas, like you have the robot arm cover where her torso and legs meet, and this is a pretty important area as it shows things like how long the shirt is, whether it is tucked or not, if there are belts etc. You also have her normal arms crossed and covered, so you can't see her hands and her shirt too well (it is further covered by long hair, which will probably get caught in the robotics now that I think about it). But yeah, her silhouette is pretty bad. It looks like she has no regular arms, and the main arm blocks her body.

My google-fu is failing me at the moment, but there is a great infographic I think from like old disney animators. It showed I think bugs bunny, and him holding some object out in various poses. And they showed how the silhouette of him really changed how well the image reads. So having him hold it directly in front isn't good, having hold it to the side is better, and having him hold it to the side and in a way that the silhouette of the object is clear is the best.

>>2131766
>>2131755
Many thanks ;_;
i have got a lot of thinking to do.
and i must have had that artwork in the back of my head while doing mine haha. thanks again man!

Speedpaint trying out my new tablet.
Should i polish it or just throw it in the trash?

>>2131789
work on the drawing then add some nice lighting setup and it could look kinda cool.

>>2131731
it looks like it gives it too much saturation.

2 hour pose

Kinda left this one out my galleries, reminds me of bad doxy ripoff.

>>2131843
nice

Practice human face.

>>2130929

Keep trying until he shuts the fuck up. don't let guys like this demoralize you.

keep practicing.

>>2130773
>>2130773
This is so cute. Do Fairy tail illustrations for kids I like the energy in your line work.

>>2131339
I didn't know David Duchovney browsed /ic/

>>2131436
Is that supposed to be Danny Sexbang?

>>2131888
Not bad, but the eyes and lips look tacked on

>>2129578
brainless spaceship stuff practice.

>>2131843
I reallly love your sharp edges, it's extremely appealing to me

Almost done with this shit. Crit appreciated!

Working on this.

>>2131871
thanks
>>2131970
thank you. I like my edges and shapes a very particular way. Hard edges, and whatever the pic related is called, where things wrap around objects. I mainly use that for clothes, fingers and parts of eyes, but it's my favorite thing to draw. I end up having to make things thicker than they actually are just to be able to use it.

>>2131968
Nice design, more considerate line weight could really push the dimensionality to it if you want to give it more time.

Could I get an opinion on something?
I'm still working on this, trying to finish it up now, and you see I have these bunny ears here. Would it be better if I make them look fuzzy or furry instead of satin-ish?

>>2131145
Barley done anything, but I am going for a navy blue tone with redish snow. I might go the minimalist route with the colors
>>2131592
I cropped the image a little, I'm afraid I might have fucked up with the silhouettes a bit since the tree trunks are supposed to be of a really dark value, especially during a snowy night. I am going to try cheat the popping a bit with the snow on the branches, see if that value difference could balance it out.

Tack.

Crit?
I'm thinking of drawing a row of lilies on the bottom because it looks so empty there.

>>2132094
work with a higher resolution.

drawing these 2 pictures. I would hoping you guys could tell me if I need to fix some things.

I'm mostly eyeing the arms and hands and torso areas.

>>2132080
Where can I get the brush you use?

>>2132118
beginners thread, loomis, folowed by a dose of vilpu when you are ready, come back to this thread in about 6 months if you draw most days.

>>2132117
It's a screenshot.

>>2132094

Recognizable characters so good job on that. It's obvious that they are meant to be the same person as well.

Crit- You should revisit those faces specifically the top left. The mouth needs work, I don't think it can get into that position given the angle of the viewer. They eyes seem pretty flat, and possibly spaced too far apart. Push your shading more. The right cheek of that same figure is just one flat color. Where's the light coming from? It's pretty unclear right now, there are no real darks in the piece at the moment.

Keep at it.

i got bored and drew a sassy white woman. i would've posted it to the porn thread but she's not covered in cum stroking one of her 6 dicks

i got bored and drew a sassy white woman. i would've posted it to the porn thread but she's not covered in cum stroking one of her 6 dicks

>>2132144
Thank you! I'll work on the light more!
And yeah, the top girl's lip does look strange now that you mention it.

study

>>2132202
Where do you get your ref material for your studies anon? Are they posted anywhere on the forums?

>or sauce please?

that's going to be akali facepalming in the middle of hopelessness.

>>2132203
i save images when i browse dA/tumblr/pinterest/4chan ref threads. Following pinterest boards and photographers on dA always work because they update with new images.

trying into rendering

Any tips?

Recently took up drawing animu. How bad am i fucking this shit up?

Collection of eyes i'm also working on.

This is my most recent attempt. Any tips would be appreciated.

>>2132202
really nice but you made them look asian.

>>2132223
Not terrible, but there's an awful lot of symbols in the face where construction should be (yes even for animuu)
Pick up some Andrew Loomis books from the Sticky up top and learn some proper head construction, it will make everything you draw better. Even Animu.

>>2131180
I really liked it, please post finished piece, you need a cigar there in his mouth btw.

>>2132225
How old are you?

>>2132129
show your art

Trying some things out. Opinions? Things I could do differently?

>>2132269
vary your edges, push your values and take the detail further
also i may be wrong but it looks like you've worked at something like 72dpi, do 300 instead

good work thus far

just turned 19 years old. Why?

>>2132233
>implying most of stylized drawing whether animu or western isn't composed purely of symbols

>>2132223
>>2132224
>>2132225
You're doing alright, better than 25% of DeviantArt.

>>2132326
>better than 25% of deviantart
Kek

>>2132317
you barely did any of your own advice

>>2132326
>le stylization is symbols meme

Stop spouting shit you read on /ic/ like its gospel.

>>2132331
why would you just post something that is obviously untrue?

>>2132326
I agree, DeviantArt is just pitiful but also halarious to look at. I fell like im doing arlight so far for someone who has been practicing on and off for two years.

>>2132347
you aren't, sorry to say that but it's true. Poor high-school-esque doodles won't get you anywhere. If you want to get serious about your art you need to start practicing properly or you'll just be a hobbyist doodler forever

>>2132347

Define 'on and off' practice.

>>2132349
>>2132353
Jesus christ guys do you really have to jump on the guy because he said he thinks he's "doing alright"? Fuck it's not like he said he was hot shit, clearly he's going to keep practicing, you really don't need to knock back his humble peg of feeling like he's getting somewhere, damn.

>>2132363
But you aren't doing alright, deluding yourself into thinking that way will only impede your progress

>>2132364
I'm not that guy, I'm just someone who thinks you two are being assholes. He's doing fine for only being at it 2 years in my opinion but either way this whole attitude of going after anyone who shows even a modicum of pride about what they're doing is a detriment to this entire board. Feeling good about what you're doing is a much better motivator than constantly beating yourself up, in my opinion.

>>2132363
That seems to be how encouragement works here on /ic/.
Tell the person posting that they're terrible, a faggot, and copy-paste all the books on all the "fundamentals" imaginable so they can feel terrible about their progress and feel like they have to start over.
I did just say he was alright.

>>2132333
>Stop spouting shit you read on /ic/
Yeah, like LOOMIS isn't the fucking signature meme on this board.
Opinions on art are as subjective as the art itself, and from my own observations, anime and western art are completely chuck full of symbols. You can agree to disagree, but trying to argue it is pointless.

>>2132373
>muh opinions

Orrite then.

>>2132373
I just hate how so many act like this place has to be all 100% negative all day every day or nothing. That's not any more productive than a hugbox, in fact I'd say it's worse because it spreads a cancer of bitter people that attack others. And you didn't say he was alright, he said he was alright and you said "you aren't, sorry to say". Even if you don't care about not being "mean", you're still not telling him anything he doesn't know. Just using the word "alright" shows he knows he has to keep improving, there was nothing beneficial for anyone in cutting him down from even that low a standing point, geez.

Well this draw thread is going well. Here's early stage sketch to actually post some drawing effort.

By no means am i going to stop practicing, as i know that i have a long way to go. As someone who is aspiring to a carrer in game design, i want my skills to be on point by then, which is why i came here to get some pointers. However, appreciate that anon is at least telling me the hard truth.

>>2132393
It's not the hard truth it's just an opinion. There is no objective way to say whether or not your progress is fine, because everyone progress differently and at different paces. I know people who've drawn off and on for more than 2 years and aren't that good, I know someone who went from barely drawing to hired professional in 2 years. There's no reason for them to bother arguing the semantics of how you feel about your progress other than to make you feel bad, it doesn't give any actual information you can use to improve. It's like you said "hey I suck but what's wrong in this pic" and they say "yeah you do suck, bye". Useless. Harsh words aren't necessarily any more true or sincere; always be critical of your critics, don't just blindly follow.

>>2132396
Its true that opinions are just like assholes, but i wasn't exactly blindly following. I only interpreted that as practice makes perfect.

With that out of way, does anyone have any other advice/critiques?

Am i the only guy who thinks that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is really hot?

>>2132399
Just keep studying, you'll improve in no time.

>>2132401
His face is too fat (a fact unrelated to your portrait) to be attractive. Nice colours.

>>2132401
edgy

>>2132408
On the contrary, I think that the edges are far too smooth and undefined. OP's painting would look far nicer with a textured brush.

>>2132409
do you have any surgestions on textured brushes for paint tool sai?

>>2132417
I haven't figured it out. I honestly gave up and do everything texture related in Photoshop.

>>2131968
Thanks, anon! Lineweight is my biggest struggle lately, I am already working on something else, I am planning to pay more attention to lineweight this time. Thanks once again!

>>2132013
Thanks, anon! Lineweight is my biggest struggle lately, I am already working on something else, I am planning to pay more attention to lineweight this time. Thanks once again!

robutt

>>2132202
your work is really great, but do you ever do anything other than greyscale portraits? Would be cool to see some color thrown in these

Did this for the other thread with the guy with sharpie writing all over his body, but it got deleted as I finished it.
So, guess I'll just throw it in here.

>>2132552
Your work reminded me of one of my life drawings.

>>2132571
Alright, cool. Its all about you isn't it?

Self portrait.

How does it look so far?

>>2132580
It's good

>>2132580

resize mofo

>>2132580
Take a better photo next time and resize the image to maybe around 1000 pixels on the long side at most.

The nose is out of perspective and looks too close to the mouth, and the neck is at an awkward angle.

>>2132580
>2432x4320
Jesus christ

>>2132580
You look like one arrogant smug littlle fucker.
Why pose like an asshole?

>>2132373
>You can agree to disagree, but trying to argue it is pointless.

No, you are objectively wrong you fucking idiot. Either you don't understand what symbol drawing actually is or you don't understand stylization in general, but either way you are wrong.

>>2132317
Ty, anon. I work at 300 but bring it down to 72 to post. I think I'm doing something wrong when it comes to re sizing images.

>>2132580
post the finished sketch, and maybe I'll use it as a reaction image the next time I feel like being a cheeky cunt.

>>2132484
No because I am afraid of trying new things
Maybe some day when I grow a pair :)

>>2132080
Dunno if this is too late, but just remember: cool shadows, warm highlights/ warm shadows, cool highlights

>>2132579
Im sorry to upset you, friend. I must apologise for my nature of pointing out similaritys. Critique of your drawing: I really like the sense of movement I get from the way you have drawn her buttcheeks. I can really feel to boom boom, shake the room as she walks. ;^)

>>2132741
Just to clarify dude, I'm >>2132552 and this >>2132579 was not me.
I do see the similarities in our drawings, the pose and model is similar and we handled the background with similar hatching. I think it's just fine that you pointed it out.

So the hate never came from my side, just so we're cool.
Thanks for the critique, may the boom boom be with you.

Contributing.

Hello /ic/,

This is my first time in this board. I'd like to take up drawing (in paper). I've drawn things in the past, and as a child i was told i was good at it. However, in my recent attempts i found that i always get frustrated (as i want everything to be perfect) and always leave the drawing unfinished.
I'd like to try again for real. Which kind of pencils and paper should i get? Got any tips? I haven't read the links in this post, should i do it now or save it for later?

>>2132778
The best advice I can give is to keep at it. The more you do it the better you'll get. I suggest starting with small less detailed drawings, sketches and the like. That way you won't feel that they're unfinished, just precursors to something bigger.

>>2129854
>And for the love of god flip the shit

>>2132586
>resize mofo

>>2132592
>2432x4320
>Jesus christ

>>2132588
>resize the image to maybe around 1000 pixels

This shit should be in every OP and/or in sticky...

>>2132791
In the OP post the third sentence actually says to keep it under 1500x1500. But I guess no one reads that. And I think 1500 is even too big, no reason to look at things at that size in most cases.

>>2132794
It depends. Sometimes it's okay I think to post larger images. If you need critique on texture for example. But rule of thumb should be 1000px.

>>2132791
Also, this is semitransparent so just pop that on top of whatever pic you want for OP.

>>2132791
yea seconding that it's already mentioned in the current OP, but that's a nice idea. BUT it will probably get ignored as well. I think there's a better chance of people paying attention to it if it's high contrast and if it's in bulleted list form

Make sure that your posted pic is
-under 1000x1000
-in the right orientation
-etc

>>2132802
>>2132800
>>2132791
nay

>>2132800
Question.
Say you're working on a .psd at 300 dpi and you want to post the image. Do you change the dpi to 72, or do you change the dimensions of the image and keep the dpi at 300?

>>2132806
dpi doesn't matter when viewing it online really. Just adjust the pixel size. You can also do a Save For Web thing if you want, though I don't bother. And you can work at 72dpi on a large pixel dimension image, and it will print fine. You can hop between dpi easily, the thing of importance is the number of pixels.

>>2132802
Yeah bulleted form will be followed more closely I assume. No one wants to read a big paragraph, but having a couple bullets will mean you read it before you even realize you started.

>>2132808
Gotcha. That's always been a bit confusing for me. Thanks, anon.

>>2132802
>>2132809
also turned the opacity up to increase contrast.

>>2131100
you might want to check your composition, make the background a bit brighter so your main figures are easy to read

>>2131180
nice, post finished version.

>>2131100

Seconding this: >>2132831
You could put a snow covered tree behind the guy, that would really help pop out his silhouette.

>>2132831
>>2132846
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>>2132080

>>2132815
I always wonder why people do stuff like this. I mean it's obviously not taken seriously, but then again it's too much work for it to be just trolling/baiting. Plus it's not really any good for triggering people here anyway, so what are the mysterious intentions behind this?

So desperate to use colors.

>>2132848
Alright, never read that. But still, didn't fix the silhouette problem - the guy is still pretty much invisible and the only focal point are the wolf's eyes.

Got the blockout done

>>2131392
>>2132202
Fantastic.
>>2132029
Depends what you're going for, and I guess personal opinion. I'd go with fuzzy/furry but that's just me.

>>2132849
Never automatically dismiss something because of the medium used to create it.

>>2132855
>Depends what you're going for
Sexy. I asked the porn thread too and they said satin, plus when I Googled various types of bunny ears, it seemed like all the adult bedroom ones were satin instead of furry so that's what I ended up sticking with. Thanks though!

>>2132849
i do because i like doing it, and because i have nothing better to do, and i believe i made some progress since i started, not enough i know, but still. there are no mysterious intentions

>>2132911
It's much more interesting than generic waifu #2,754,231, anon. Keep it up.

>>2132915
Yeah but less interesting than generic waifu 2,655,890

>>2132911
thanks man, although id like to have the skill to draw some good generic waifus, and i respect those who can draw that

>>2132911
Fair enough, you might want to ditch the MS Paint style though if you're interested in being taken a bit more seriously. It's not like I was trying to bash your work, I just genuinely didn't know if bait or not.
And I don't think you want your art to convey that feeling.

>>2132936
oh, i see now, srry. no its not bait, i can't get any fun from trolling.

>>2132945
I'm thinking of ditching /ic/ altogether now. This place is genuinely constructive at times but overall it's way too toxic. You are one of the people who make me think twice. I really enjoy seeing your posts. Thanks.

>>2132955
Not that guy but I really want to leave here too. I just wish I knew of a viable replacement. Some place that isn't as toxic, while hopefully still not being a hugbox.

>>2132957
what do you guys mean by toxic?

>>2132961
None of those guys, but I'm guessing they're talking about people hating on each other instead of leading civilized discussions and of course the shitposting.

>>2132961
Some people can't handle the #bantz

>>2132961
There are people here who just live to shitpost. A day or so ago some asshole made a thread and the op just said "You'll never make it, you suck and you always will". There are constant bashing threads on various industry and non industry artists. People start all kinds of stupid arguments and try to bait people into posting their art to try and use it against them. There's just a ton of ridiculously negative and unproductive nonsense that goes on around here. This board is about 20% actual art discussion and 80% someone trying to piss off someone else at any given time. I'd really like a place where people can talk about art without shitflinging and where I can trust that someone's criticizing my work because they actually see a problem and not because they're "looking for one".

>>2132961

I'm guessing people being hostile for the sake of being hostile, rather than being critical.

Still keeping up.

>>2132965
i understand, but i really think that, in a mysterious way, the toxicity its what keeps it from turning into a hugbox, and the fact that you have to dodge or argue with shitposters make you more passionate about making something serious, idk if im being clear enough, what i think is that art needs chaos and dumbness to keep going on.

The best on 4chan

>>2132973
I'm sure that works to motivate some people, in fact when I was younger there were a good number of times I worked harder to spite someone who told me I couldn't do something. I'm older now and the volume of those kinds of attacks here are overwhelming for me. I'm self motivated enough and need a quieter place. It's not that I don't think this place should exist, but it doesn't work for everyone and those people need a place too.
Besides the last straw for me is the whole site is experiencing a massive influx of pedophilia and I really don't want to see that shit.

>>2132973
To me, the value of this place is mostly anonymity. Not that I'm afraid to show my shit, but any time I critique someone on forums like ca, I think about how that will reflect on me, my career and what people think of my art.
Pretty much the opposite feeling of what >>2132968 said, I'll spend my time looking for "good things" in crappy drawings, just so that I don't look like a grumpy basher who's never pleased with anything.

Pretty pleased with how it turned out, considering how shaky my hand was.

>>2133032
>>2133032
>>2133032

New thread!

>>2132961

People that can't take raw comments, generally too young to be around when forums like eatpoo existed.

Well, I have used one of the previous drawings and passed it to SAI.

I did my best, but somebody tell me if I am in the right way

>>2133192
>somebody tell me if I am in the right way
No you're not, you're in the old thread and there's nobody here. Move it already.

>>2131843
Be more confident with your lines. You have a nice style that could be refined.