/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

no drawing on the first reply
yolo

>>2106591
crazy motherfucker

first attempt at creating a composition, is there anything off about it?

>>2106202
Those are some clean ass lines. What materials did you use? Pencil, paper?
How did you come up with the idea?

I did a study of one of the pictures from the sculpture thread. i really have a fetish for those values and edges on statues.

Did I fuck up the neck/clavicle area?
Does the value study read well?

>>2106634

texture is generally most visible on the planes where the light has a very steep angle of attack. so to speak. does that make sense to you? just something to keep in mind because it looks like you are placing texture somewhat randomly.

yeah, I'm not a stickler for rules though

Reposting in new thread, hope it's ok.

>>2106596
Yep.

Some concepts for the face on an undead queen I'm designing...she's gonna be covered up with a mask and a sort of 16th century style dress/royal outfit thing eventually though. An immortal clinging to glory days of the past sorta thing, hiding her undead body and trying to pass off as powerful and beautiful.

Can I get some help with the pelvis? It's an anorexic grill's body.

>>2106655
looks good; rendering on the train is sort of weak
do you post your work anywhere?

>>2106660
her ribs and collarbones are really wonky

>>2106673
In the sense that they are not symmetric or do they just look silly?

here's a sushi chef fishing. let hme know... hwhat... hya thank!

>>2106646
yes, it does make sense. And yes, i place my textures rather randomly, or better: in a for me visually exciting way. But I totally understand that it can throw the image off by being to unrealistic.
I will analyse and place my textures more carefully next time, thanks anon.

How is mine compared with the original. I think I fucked up the legs.

Would appreciate any help.

>>2106678
I wouldnt know what it was if you hadn't told me

>>2106722
A few things:

-be mindful of chicken scratch lines. You do ten lines for every one that you genuinely need. Part of this is working digitally, at your level you should work more with a pencil and paper.

- you should practice some construction instead of just 2d shapes

-don't use anatomical 3d models like that, use photos of actual people

Repost from the previous thread.

>>2106658
Oh god i love these so much, 4A and 4F are looking awesome

>>2106582

Would anyone happen to know of a gallery or place where you could find photos like this with very clear/dynamic lighting? It'd be fun to study from this. I know it's a longshot, but it never hurts to ask.

>>2106658
4B

>>2106733
First, thanks for replying.

The chicken scratch lines is because I was sketch, when it's the final line, I pay attention to the lineart.

I used stick figure construction before drawing the fail 2D shapes, sorry for not posting before, I assumed people would know.

Okay, I'll drop posemaniacs. I'll look another site for reference.

>>2106740

Yes.

>>2106725
I'm going to do it again today and try to make it look like the art style of asian art. line economy and stuff like that. I think that will make for a better painting.

>>2106658
I'm digging 4A and 4B

here's the direction im trying to take this now. like it's an old drawing from japan or someting. plus i think this composition is a bit simpler and makes the idea a little easier to read

>>2106787
I don't like this new one. Wasn't the whole idea about the dynamic angle, how the viewer feels like he's right in the water looking on at this scene? If you want to go the simple graphic route, that's cool, but then the lack of dynamic angle has to be balanced out with something else, e.g. fuller and more dynamic shapes/masses/textures/etc.

>>2106795
well the whole idea is "fishing with a sushi roll". If that idea isn't conveyed well, which feedback suggested it wasn't, I think this one makes it much clearer.

Composition and fancy effects are nice, but if I wasn't pulling off what I wanted with clarity I can give that stuff up.

>>2106823
You can't have two horizons if you want something realistic. That's what was throwing you off on your first sketch too.

Progress from last thread. I don't know how to tits.

>>2106845
They're like sandbags

>>2106845

I'm envious. Any tips on how to learn to draw bodies so well?

>>2106841
im not really going for realistic, but is this less jarring?

>>2106823
Ok I admit I had no idea that was the concept. It's much clearer now though.

But the issues I mentioned still remain, which is that there is a lack of dynamics in the picture. It's very boring. Everywhere I look there is a lack of "oomph". Look at the clouds and mountains, they are nondescript. The sushi idea is interesting but that alone can't hold my attention.

The chef is not attractive, might sound silly but this kind of thing is important. Visually he has to capture my attention, I'm not saying he has to look like a model. Put some unique details on him, don't make it an obligation to look at him, just make it so that one can't help but look.

The focal point (sushi) being so close to the edge strikes me as an odd choice.
I like your choice of colors. Sorry if this is all over the place, I'm on mobile.

>>2106845
>tits
Make them traps

>>2106845
Did you copy that pose out of a Burne Hogarth book?

>>2106857
The lack of dynamics is something I need to work on, but I was exploring that in the first picture and it came out kind of a mess.

It's hard incorporating concepts into a compositionally interesting illustration. But it's worth a shot every once in a while.

I'm also not great at photoshop in general I usually just work traditionally so I need to get used to the medium and how to use layers and things other than the hard round brush.

As for the chef that doesn't really bother me. He's just supposed to look asian, in an asian art style.

The focal point being far away I fixed in this. Tried to put it more towards the middle and cropped a large part of the right side off of it.

I'm moving onto a new piece now that could hopefully be more dynamic. If not dynamic than just an interesting art style. It's something of a children's illustration. I could try some softer brushes and less generic character design with it.

>>2106850
it's the first element of a hourglass figure :^)

>>2106852
sketch a lot. a lot.

>>2106860
we're on 4chan alright.

>>2106863
It's all from imagination, I almost never use references. some say it's a bad thing, some say it's a great thing, but I just like o do everything on my own.

>>2106634
this is pleasant to look at

>>2106866
There are different angles conflicting each other, and if the fish pole remains like a stick it looks like drawing on the left is happening. Also legs too short.

Getting close to finishing this, going back and painting over the colorize layers. Could use some feedback before I take this further.

>>2106591
Oh fuck. Madman.

>>2106973
Is that a floor or a stair?

>>2106973
Are you the guy who drew the kneeling girl with the red bikini armor a couple of threads back? This is a huge leap in progress, damn. Congrats.

>>2106995
Floor

dead lego dude

Just finished from doodle, no reference. Thoughts?

>>2107011
>No ref
You're not fooling anyone buddy.

>>2107006
Why is he black?

>>2107016
You wouldnt believe what a huge compliment this is lol
here's the process, if this is any kind of proof.
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/6-01-2015/YvhdgQ.gif

actually wanted to draw a dude but i always end up with grills >_>

>>2107011
I hate her hair. Face is decent

>>2107016
they dont even look similar...

>>2107011
>>2107023
Oops, it looks like you accidentally deleted your posts!
Don't worry m8, I'll repost them for you ;^)

>>2107011
>Just finished from doodle, no reference. Thoughts?

>>2107023
>>>2107016
>You wouldnt believe what a huge compliment this is lol
>here's the process, if this is any kind of proof.
>http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/6-01-2015/YvhdgQ.gif
>
>actually wanted to draw a dude but i always end up with grills >_>

>>2107034
>le epik trol XDD

if he wanted to delete it let him do whatever the fuck he wants

Where do you guys start drawing? Also, I'm having a little trouble with proportion. Any advice?

>>2107057
prectice propoerttiens :^)

Anime art

>>2107061
Nice mee-me, Jack!

>>2106996
Yeah that was one of mine, not to proud of it. Thanks though, got a long way to go but it's fun nonetheless.

>>2107067
>animu
>>2098627

>>2106997
I'm not sure I understand the structure of the ship, something like this perhaps? those are not handles right? She looks like she's stepping something with her left leg so I gave it a little dept with the angle of the wall (if that's a wall).

But I'm not sure just trying to help, what do you guys think?

>>2107145
forgot pic

>>2106973
Lots of perspective + anatomy issues. A couple of obvious ones: the left arm is too small, particularly the proximal half, and the way the shoulder girdle is fitted onto the thoracic cage is wrong (the clavicles look totally disconnected from the shoulders.) Also, knuckles do not form a straight line when fingers are flexed tightly.

>>2107153
Sweet I will look into it, an image is never to far to be fixed.

>>2106845
I feel like the man's right hand (visually left) seems a little weird.
I think it's the finger size? Each segment of the fingers seem to stay the same 'thickness' as they get smaller and smaller, resulting in a 'fatter' hand.

I had to look at it for a while to really notice it though, so it's definitely not a huge "deal breaker" problem.

Sketchy but I still think it's worth posting as a wip.

drew some shit at model drawing

Writing a comic about a girl with cancer who has an imaginary polarbear-friend. Inspired by a painting by mullins. Actually the best Mullins-piece in my opinion. So im starting off by just doing a kind of study of the piece.

>>2107195
Post the Mullins piece too

>>2107196
It's more based on the painting rather than a straight up study.

Heavily inspired by, maybe.

>>2106735
I think this has a lot of potential, I would try to add individual shadows on the belt pieces, they look a bit flat now, add more contrast to the snakes, so they look more slick/wet.

Try revising the lower part of her face seem a bit lopsided. After that try to go a bit more aggressive with the surrounding shadows.

I just resumed pic related, thanks everyone for your tips and patience.

>>2107195
aah dark god give me your power

>>2106722

Yours has no calf muscle in the left leg.

>>2106735
Spray on the left side of the images is too bright--takes focus away from the figure. Breasts look pasted on. Right bicep is missing. Attachment of the right pectoralis to the right arm + clavicle is wrong... something is off with the deltoid as well. Her face is wack, but that's for another day.

>>2107201
Thank you so much for tour critique! I agree with everythink you said. I think that ver face is a bit messed up as well. I will take my time until i get something decent :) thanks!

>>2107214
Thank you!
Im still studying anatomy so i cant notice too much the bicep and clavicle missing but yeah it looks off so i trust in tour critique. Maybe a quick redline could guide me a bit better if you have any time and feel like it :)

imma dump this here for tonight
will return

hairstyle studies

>>2107302
easy on the curves, van gogh

>>2107306
>>2107306
>>2107306
>>2107306
>>2107306
If only someone told me sooner, god fucking damn it.

heres this. think i got this right on the first try but what do i know

>>2106602
work longer
>>2106617
Plenty off but keep going because you cant fix it all in one go
>>2106634
Really nice work :)
>>2106655
kewl
>>2106658
very kewl
>>2106660
use refs
>>2106678
construct that body
>>2106722
do more
>>2106735
fucked up anatomy on upper set of arms, like what even, looks super off
>>2106845
noice
>>2107293
mix values and prolly better line work or stick to the line work
>>2107302
do some studies of the face, really try
>>2107279
nice rocks?

Keep up the good work /ic/ :D

>>2107302
I don't like it.

Everything about it is very superficial, like you don't understand the structure of what you're drawing.

Look up the abstraction method or the reilly method for drawing heads and the body in a more convincing way.

>>2106845

Damn when I think about how this started in the previous thread.

Hey guys, I just got a new tablet. What do you think of this?

Just some shitty fanart I guess

First time in one of these threads.
>>2107291
Any tips on drawing circles or wheels would be greatly appreciated, because I just can't seem to do it.

>>2107323
>What?? you are a virgin? haha

Does anyone know if in Photoshop there's a keyboard shortcut to switch from working on a layer to working on that layer's layer mask?

>>2107403
Call me Caitlyn anon

>>2107330
"HAIRSTYLE" studies

here you go, I tried harder on the faces also, I looked up the riley method, it's pretty cool but I prefer the way Hogarth draws faces.

>>2106655
you just posted this on reddit right?

>>2107417
...What??

yea fuck my life

>>2107431
The likeness is there. I wouldn't be too upset.

>>2107403
Don't know, but you could always just create an action for that...

>>2107465
Holy shit.
This is why two heads are better than one, thanks anon!

>>2106665
Do you mean perspective (It's broken, since the roof goes to a vanishing points on far left, instead of to the far right, which I didn't create), or shading?
To answer you question, I put my stuff here: elloslal.tumblr.com

>>2107420
At least it was me and not someone else. Jokes aside, reddit is a great place for an artist. If they like your piece, a lot of people will see it. Currently 625,000 views and still accumulating 20,000 per hour. And I'm not talking about some financial gain. I have a stable job and draw as a hobby. It's just feels really nice when you know that a lot of people saw your thing. Of course, you get some money related propositions with that, too.

>>2107470
what subreddit?
i know very little about reddit

>>2107474
r/art

Aight got two paints and two sketches

This one is problematic will most likely change flag to intersect with him give it some more flow

study

So, I sketched a thing. I'm not sure what to think of it. Really new to this.

I can't draw human heads proportionaly yet, so the head is the only character I've ever actually practiced.

Anyways, any comments/criticisms of the overall form would be nice, and If anyone would be willing to redline the body that would be fantastic and it would be very appreciated.

>>2106582
tfw my pic used for OP

>>2107523
You shouldn't be asking for advice when you know the answer is In the question
You don't know how to draw people so you draw people simple as that red lines won't solve anything

Hope I don't sound like a douche

>>2107530
You don't, I got ya. I just really fuck up stuff when I do any detail.

I meant to post this in the beginner thread, whoops

this is my current doodle :o

>>2106655
bioshock inspired?

>>2107465
Yes, you are a freaking genius, I just did it and it works beautifully. I was worried it might become layer specific somehow but nope, on any layer that has a mask I can use it. Life will be that much faster for me!
Thanks again anon, I could kiss ya.

>>2107419
These faces have the same problem as the others, please don't try to disregard critique.

Your faces aren't good.

warmup
I cant nail the cool green light on the skin; she look like a zombie tbh lads

>>2107485
>>2106634
>>2106582
sexy

>>2107431
getting there- keep your strokes clean and on the form, try not to use black and use different edges

>>2107481
this one is slightly muddy. where have you been?

>>2107694
thanks mane
>try not to use black
I didn't but it looks like I did that's why I'm mad

this is how I'm doing more character/design schematics using the first one I did for similar chars kek
any crits welcome (front and back views are not drawn yet)

>>2107778
I need feedback, what is ur impresion?

>>2107778
why aren't his hands covered in armor? Trust me m8, when you're fencing your hands are the first things to get damaged.

help

>>2107869
thx, will do

>>2107869
That's what cross-guards & more advanced variants were invented for. You don't lose hand dexterity or your fingers.

>>2107848
With that amount of frontal weight it looks like he's going to tip forward. I do like the design though, maybe add some metal clips to where the cape is attached to shoulders to balance it out or something?

PS. add cat ears on the helmet

>>2107694
seems a bit stiff, maybe put the weight on one leg
>>2107848
looks good, maybe a bit too symmetrical? you could attach the cape to one shoulder or maybe play a bit more with the drapery if you want the armor that way

>>2107694
seems a bit stiff, maybe put the weight on one leg
>>2107848
looks good, maybe a bit too symmetrical? you could attach the cape to one shoulder or maybe play a bit more with the drapery if you want the armor that way

>>2107899
>add cat ears on the helmet
had the impulse to do sho, but said no, the cute face was to kill stress kek

to break asimetry I might try that, and also paint some armor piececs in one side or something like that, oh, and also more armour on the left arm, like dark souls1 stone set, more protection against right handers

>>2107320
does anyone feel one way or the other about this? want to see it expanded into something else? im sure theres something else i could do with this that i havent thought of yet.

also just technique wise i tried to go with a more opaque style, and have areas behind the figures show through. does this work/look interesting?

i think the perspective might be botched but i rounded the horizon in another version and it looked okay

Drawing from imagination. My life and my drawings suck without Lord Loomis as reference.

>>2107571
No. Viktor Antonov inspired.

can anyone help me/redline this pose please?

>>2108056
You need to learn the proportions.
>Head is too big
>arms are short
>tiny ribcage
>pelvis is grinding against ribes

>>2108075
your trying to learn how to paint without learning how to draw.

this is a very slow, difficult way to learn how to draw.

unless you plan on making abstract digital art known for it's brushstrokes, which i doubt because you're drawing fantasy landscapes, i'd go outside and just draw from life.

What improvements could I make?

>>2108109
I'm really tired atm, but her boobs look to pointy upwards? Also her left boob seems not in the right place.

Maybe give her a little bit thicker hairline right above her forehead?

>>2108109
I find it pretty right, I would add more volume to the hair, as now it's close to the cranium

>>2108092
not trying to learn how to draw, im trying to learn the tools.

>>2108075
if you do exactly that with different brushes the image would be more readable due to patterns

Guys, I usually play guitar/write lyrics but I've always wanted to learn. I just want some kind of system in the beginning, like with the guitar you learn some chords and theory and you can create start writing some basic melody. With drawing it feels like you have to learn anatomy and perfectly drawing someones face before you're even half decent enough to be satisfied with the results, so what's the best way to start practicing and get results that arent years apart?

>>2108125
yee ill work on that

i am a robot and i draw what i imagine my middle-aged colleagues look like naked

>>2107485
gj dude, ref? where'd you get refs like that lol and just in general.

>>2108137
my wasteland 2 character

K I think im gonna call this one "Mom, You're Embarrassing Me"

>>2108137
"Lisa Big Ass" has some unshapely titaroons

>>2108137
>>2108140
Neat stuf man. Be careful of muddiness in your colours though, like you have a lot of hue variation that's really extreme, all these greens and reds mixing and creating a weird blend of colour. You can also do with a few harder edges in places.

Help seriously needed.
First time working without a reference.

>>2108161
yeah, i'm mostly a novice at colours. i just slap on some overlays, mostly

its been like 2 years since i drawn something
how do i come back
just draw random stuff? im not familiar with computer drawing too, i only worked with real oil paintings, but these digital paintings look so good
is something like photoshop enough to do these?

>>2108176
do something rather thank thinking about doing something

study I started of a picture from a sculpture thread. Something seems off about the leg on the right

>>2108176
Re introduce yourself with basic shapes first such as the cube, sphere, cylinder, etc. Find a quiet work space, take deep breaths and concentrate. Drawing is like meditation and should respected as such.

I was working from a reference photo of face, but got discourage due to the placement of the nose, lol.

>>2108196
Turn it into one of those dwarves from Stalker.

>>2107981
neat, looks like a mix of colru and ahglan

>>2107419
>Hogarth
Well there's your problem

Hogarth is really good with anatomy and structure of the body. But faces, eehhh

Loomis, Hampton, Reilly, Vilppu, even Huston are way better than Hogarth at heads and faces.

>>2107478
Regular hard round or custom brush?

>>2108117
>>2108115

Ho-shit, yah, now I see it.

Thanks based anons

personal pic

>>2108308
too much nehgative spac4e on right
sorry for typing really drunk

>>2108444
Fuuukk killl me

>>2108444
looks beautiful, but if I had to critique, the armor could look more metallic, and you could possibly make the light on the figure a bit warmer, looks great as is though

>>2108444

aww yea everytime catbib posts it's like christmas.

>>2108444

one of your weaker pieces, dear caddlebibblez

>>2108450
thanks, i did originally have a more metallic look but i felt it looked very out of place. overall the armor design could just be a lot better

>>2108466
i'm glad you like it

>>2108467
yeah, i'm not really happy with it either, but i felt like in order to adress the main problems with it i'd be working on it for weeks longer, and i would rather move on to a new picture

>>2108444
I love you're work catbib. And I hate to be the one guy who nitpicks on anatomy but right now your legs don't seem to attach correctly to his body.

I'd love to give you a honest opinion on mood, light and edge control, but you're so far ahead of what i could reasonably critique. Nice work.

That being said i wonder if you don't rely a little bit to much on what you usually do, Are allready good at? I remember your last picture you posted on deviant art with the sort of mage in a forest. And it seem a bit samey.

>>2106582
Trying to learn how to colorized with a computer program. Went for easy emo kid.

>>2108450
I disagree, I like it the way it is, doesnt need to be shiny metallic

>>2108444
you did that light tutorial once and i wonder if you could do the same but more about your process. What set of rules you developed for yourself and what you're are paying attention to. Like where to put edges etc.. Or simply just some step by step would be great.

I know that might seem a bit vague or iven to much work and i understand. But I'm sure you could really help out some people if you would just share a little about your thought on painting.

i think this is cute. what do you think. also can you tell I can't get gradients out of my tablet right now? opaque as a motherfucker

also catbib stop being so serious all the time. your bumming me out.

>>2108520

Light tutorial?

>>2107201
.

>>2108561
http://catbib.deviantart.com/journal/?catpath=%2F

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>>2108583
I must have seen this picture a million times now. Stop posting the same crap over and over again. Changing ten pixels doesn't count as progress.

>>2108583
Omg the millions of times you've used lasso is so fucking noticeable its cringeworthy, when are you going to learn to stop polishing turd studies
In fact I wouldn't even call them studies since you're clearly not learning anything from them, just trying to copy pictures and painstakingly moving pixels around here and there

>>2108589
Thanks for looking at it that much, seems a bit excessive though.

I made this comparison just for you, I hope it's an easier one for you and your vision disorder, let me know if you need a gif or better yet I suggest start drawing maybe that way you will notice the difference.

Regards.

>>2108594
is the lasso tool something i should learn more about? id google it but im lazy so a yes or no is good

>>2108548
this is me

>>2108597
yes but you should just keep practicing drawing first

>>2108596
>Implying that such a minor change can be considered enough progress to post an update

Gangsta alien
Yea perspective isn't good

>>2108601
alright easy lol, my drawing is fine right now

>>2108596
Keep up the good work.

>>2108596
Wow, that is so much progress. I was totally wrong to think that you were a douche-bag. Please forgive me for I have slandered your good name.

Oh high and mighty FiRez, please forgive me for wasting your valuable time. Thank you for making that helpful comparison to show me that you have indeed made a week's worth of progress in your beautiful painting. Oh how masterful you are.

You have definitely surpassed everyone else on this thread or maybe even everyone on /ic/. You are at the peak of art and so talented at it. I definitely wish that I could someday reach your level of skill.

>>2108604
I attached the file then it fucked off

>>2108613
Fucking LOL bruh hahahahahaha

>>2108616
nice chain brush, faggot.

>>2108621
problem with it, faggot?

>>2108626
NICE BRUSH.

>>2108629
thanks :)

>>2108632
>>2108626
Jesus Fucking Christ, I don't suppose you'd want to identify yourself on here too so that you can make sure to take credit for all the work you've done. Maybe even call yourself something like WaTeRez?

>>2108596
i hope left's the new one, because looks cuter

Tell me I'm shit /ic/

>>2108444
>>>2108138
I have lot's of your stuff saved if you are catbib.. I love this chunky thickness your pieces have. It looks like thick oil.. I love it.

Ignore the lighting, I need to fix it. How is her face?

Catbib where yo brushes at

>>2108668
You are shit.

You have inconsistent lighting, and the transition to dark values in your clothing is too harsh. There are too many dark values around the eyes.

The pose in general is stiff. And the hands; especially, look like they are paralyzed.

I think the legs might be a bit too long(like a horizontal foot too long), but it's passable.

And it looks like she is wearing different boots on each foot.

>>2108676
i second this. pls giv brushes bib

>>2108679
Thank you

did my post just get delted ;_; what..

>>2108607
Thanks, will do

>>2108613
No problem my dear but I actually didn't work that much on it.

>>2108667
I agree but the thing is that it was not accurate if you see the reference (http://www.oystermag.com/interview-chairlift)) you will notice that her face is quite elongated, I will probably will make some retouches tomorrow to try to bring a bit more charm

>>2108675
And a more stylized dude. I would appreciate feedback.

Holy shit when did they add a 1500 x 1500 rule....
Janitors are either fast or really hate my art..

uhh.. thoughts?.. Kinda half way through this one.. there will be crowds at the bottom later..

>>2108708
very muddy, no light source

>>2108708
they probably did it just for you, you special little flower

>>2108718
That makes me so hard right now? I can't even

>>2108714
Thanks.

>>2108721
dipshit

iunno.
been trying straight inks lately.
kim is just too adictive.

>>2108483
thanks, you're right that it's similar but i wouldn't say that that necessarily means it's something i'm good at. im still struggling a lot, i think that shows. but you're always gonna have that
>>2108520
it's not that i wouldn't like to do something like this, but i think that when you make tutorials or give people advice that you have a really big responsibility not to lead people astray and that's usually what happens when you talk about rules or cookie cutter solutions to problems. the kind of advice that fits into a neat little package is almost always going to make a lot of compromises with the truth and i dont believe in that. either way, i think the most important things to pay attention to by far are simply the interaction of light (and its color components) and form and making sure that your color relationships and value relationships are consistent throughout the picture
>>2108669
thanks for the kind words
>>2108676
>>2108696
here are my tool presets: http://www.mediafire.com/download/2wb20jejsjtbofi/2015+6+3.tpl

any help much appreciated.

>>2108787
where is his pelvis?

>>2108794
good question.

>>2108444
how long did you spend on this piece and how long do you usually spend on others like it

done, any comments?

>>2107981
i like this. also, you should just call it a fucking golem

too many mistakes acumulated working with layers to make it clean now, I drop it

>>2108596

I loved seeing this pic progress, keep it up!

>from the ref page.

iunno.

>>2108924
You're using a pretty dead (even) line, which can work, but it's really heavy in the face. Taking a lot of those marks out of the face would help a lot. Issues and such aside, I actually like the dead lines on the armor.

Anatomy and general armor design needs work though. Study both more. And don't phone in your backgrounds -- the more you avoid them, the more it'll be a weakness and you'll have to play tons of catch-up to get them up to par.

>>2108444
Your edge work is fucking great. Your work in general is great but I always love your edges.

>>2109048
>don't phone in your backgrounds
i guess i needed to hear that.
thank for your words, they have helped.

>>2108946

Awesome design. Really cool.

Also were those your intended clean up lines? I know you said it was unfinished but some people clean up that way and if you do then you'd really benefit from cleaner, form describing lines.

>>2108444
Ruan-Jia knock off

>>2107848
>>2107778
Looks like something from Blizzard

>>2108657
Calm down faggot

>>2105356
Thanks a lot man, i get what you meant now. yours looks so much better haha
i tried to push more the values and paint more opaquely
also looked up some reference to push the realism and it does help a lot, dont mind the silly hair, i couldnt decide what hairstyle give him.
thanks again!
>>2108203
>>2108940
Thanks!
have never played that game but those are some cool designs.

I need help with the anatomy.

Also, any coloring tips are welcome. I'm new to photoshop so want to learn before I go to art school.

>>2108704
>I actually didn't work that much on it.
eh, yea, yea you did

>>2109095
Nice man, glad my paintover helped. These are looking better. By the way, are you doing pencils too or just digital stuff? If you want to reach Wes level you'll want to grind your pencil skills, that's where you pick up the most draftsmanship.

>>2109045
maybe try more darks in the background and more light on the edges of the figure.

>>2108708
>Holy shit when did they add a 1500 x 1500 rule
it was always fucking there

>>2109102
You right, maybe it wasn't enforced as well before cause I used to view/post images over 1500 all day.

>>2109084
I should ink the lines properly and paint with effort, but w/e, will take a break from it
>>2109090
never played blizard games, but I guess this happens when your design lack ideas and just play with forms :(

>>2109095
You should do some studies of the eye socket/brow. Like all your eyebrows and the general structure in that area look the same on each one. There's quite a bit of variation that can occur within eyebrows and the structure near the eye, so you should try to build up your visual library of this area so you can play with it more and get the variation needed for different characters. It will really help you avoid same-face issues.

>>2108444
It looks fantastic.
Is there anywhere I can find more of your work?

People say my drawings looks so messy ... Can someone please help me ? Example ...

>>2109119
Well your lines are pretty messy. Almost everything looks covered in fur. Try practicing the quality of your lines first. Don't use lined paper.

Your drawing needs work especially the faces, you can brush up on everything pretty much. Nothing that xan't be done with practice. I gotta say I'm impressed by your shape design (eg the dragon's tail), which I think is more advanced than your drawing skills for now.

workin on this today :P

>>2108494
i dunno

>>2109140
I think this would look better with darker darks. Like bold blacks. Try desaturating the image once in awhile and check the values. I think some nicely applied shadows will make it pop.

been trying to find "muh-style" lately.

>My personal approach to coloring is :
>1. Colorize everything on it's true color.
>2. Brighten with screen layer.
>3. Darken with multiply layer.

So basically there's 3 layers. It kinda works on general situations, But it seems not working on high contrast environment. Pic I posted is example of my obstacle.

I acknowledge there is various way to colorize certain things, but I really like to use this method. And the problem is, whether it's screen layer or multiply layer, It just doesn't look right.
Well, It does get better when I use wide range of color in screen/multiply layer. But as I understand, If light source is yellow, then every surface toward it has to be tinted yellow. So in theory, It has to be look right when i use screen/multiply layer per light source. But It is not. I really want to know why this happens

>>2109137
Try to show things through value and shape rather than outlining things. Also that placement of the plane feels very awkward, it is tangent with the edge of the picture and also feels like it is very conveniently placed there.

>>2109158
I forgot to mention that I don't understand why using single color in lightening/darkening layer is not working.
Light source is yellow, so screen layer corresponding to light source gotta be just yellow. same as light source

>>2109150
thanks bruh

just a shivering guy.

>>2109166
Well every layer type will modify the colours it goes over. Like it will affect the saturation and the value (there are a couple exceptions that won't change the value, but most do). Screen layers desaturate things and works best for adding cool/white light to things. If you want a warm light, try using a pale yellow on an overlay layer. That will add something akin to sunlight/incandescent, depending on what yellow you use. But try out a few different layer types, and try them at different strengths. I think all of them will saturate your colour except Exclusion and Screen, and Colour Dodge when it begins to blow out your lights (since at those brightnesses you can't have colour).

Realize though that no layer mode is perfect for modifying all the colours. If you know what you are doing then it can create a base, but you will want to manually tweak it on a normal layer afterwards.

how do you fucking pick a style

>>2109158
Sounds like a faulty method. Why not just paint it in?
Were your lines ink, pencil or digital inked?

>>2109177
You don't. The style picks you :p

In all seriousness, don't try to force a style. It should come naturally and build over years. If you try to paint in a certain style it will probably come out looking very forced.

>>2109177
I want it to look like this. Like a colored in pencil drawing but not crappy looking.

>>2109183
I guess thats true, but I don't know how to finish this.

>>2109174
That's very informing to solve my problem. I was struggling using only screen ( seldom overlay ) layer. Trying different layers will help. Thank you for your advice.

>>2109182
It's inked and then digital painted.
Your opinion is right, I understand your approach has many benefits. but I simply don't want to do that. I like to organize layers and make things lay over and over to make it happen. Painting directly is not my thing. not muh-style :)

>>2109087
aww, don't worry I'm sure you'll be able to draw one day :)

>>2109184
that looks like a multiply/overlay layer on top of a b&w sketch.

Hope that helps.

>>2106582
no more irc huh

>>2109150

Something like this?

>>2109208
woops too big

Bridget shooting female trafficants. I think

>original OC do not steal

>>2109150
Something like this?

>>2109212
Nonono, go back. It looks muddy now.

Either be bold with your value or don't do it at all.
I think you were too "shy" with the shading on the right side of his face. And I shouldn't have said the word black, that was probably confusing, sorry. Don't shade the face with black.

You can leave the face alone and push the values on his hair and shirt. I'm thinking something like this pic. I think this simple graphic approach can work quite well with your picture.

>>2109223
oh ok. Thanks. I'm not used to having to shade around the computer monitor. It trips me up since everything is 'glowing'. So yeah, I am shy. Thanks though.

>>2109165
i agree dude, im going to try that, thx for commenting on it

Tried painting fast and effenciently

>>2109137
site?

no reference

also this, i know the hand is shit, i need help with rendering water in this medium

>>2109237
Fooking hell, that's beautiful and clean. I keep trying to do inks too but I don't have the patience.

>>2109237
http://powderfingers.tumblr.com/

>>2109257
thanks, yea it can get a little tedious if u dont break it up into sessions

>>2108444
stop bringing everybody donw! ;_;

>>2108708
>>2108714

Update ...about 70% now.. got rid of a lot of mud added more visible lightsource.. its' daylight.

>>2108444
Everything looks like its made of the same material.
Throw some specular highlights on the armor...but not too much!

>>2109239
>No Perspective.

seriously work on perspective.

>>2109242
>>2109239
Resize your fucking work

Some concept art. Critique would be rad

>>2109456
Sword girl's muzzle is really off. Bikini girl's belly/hip area needs another look.

>>2109456

>furry
>dual wielding katanas

It's shit by default.

>>2109457
Its all supposed to be the same chick but I can't keep a consistency with muzzle shape. And I see what you mean on the body

>>2109468
What animal are you basing her off of, facially? Two look bear-like and the other could be a dog.

>>2109228
eh i did this

>>2109242
>>2109239
speakin of special snowflakes. g'damn.

>>2109096
thoughts?

>>2109605
Hard to understand what's going on, Im unfamiliar with the character though.

>>2109239
please don't get mad when a bunch of jews dont let you in art school because of your flawed perspective in drawings.
and then go on to destroy most of europe and attempt to push russia during the winter for some unknown reason.
also this time round, dont trust the japs if you are going to do the whole globe rolling thing again.

>>2109613
>Im unfamiliar with the character though.


When he goes crazy he sometimes looks like that.

>>2109624
>>2109613

Even so what would you say about the use of colors, lighting, etc. I'm new to photoshop and I wanna get better before going to ringling. Gotta step up.

>>2109626
>ringling
My nigga, there's way better ways to learn to create art then the circus...

I would say your composition... or rather the gesture... is lacking. severly

Rating your colors/design is meaningless as you're drawing an established character.. (apparently)..

I guess it's pretty good for high school level.

Work on actually saying something with your art, right now it just looks like he's taking a really constipated shit.

>>2109661
>taking a really constipated shit

>>2109661
>My nigga, there's way better ways to learn to create art then the circus...

I'm sure but not all of them give the same amount of money

Life paint trying to beef up color knowledge squinting seems to be helping alot

>>2109456
I can only tolerate fur when the snot is not too long, like the girl in middle.

>>2109234
Beautiful mang. Love the atmospheric perspective. Green cliffs are a bit jarring on the pink and purple. Makes them a focal point, dunno if that's what you were going for. Nice brushwork on the rocks.
How you get your shapes so clean if you don't mind me asking? Erasing negative space? Also the mandatory 'what brush did you use'
Thanks

>>2109736
good stuff man

>>2109234
And you did great, good job!
Painting efficiently is very important for every artist!

You can draw a tiny boat or something like that in the water. That will add to the scale effect and also fill in the gap in the composition.

>>2109736
Looks good.

>>2109409
>>2109620

is lack of perspective that obvious?

>>2109575

why?

>>2109211
nice

>>2110136

>>2108308

>>2110136
what kind of brush do you use? I mean for that blue in the middle and the light red on the right

>>2110197
i made them

>>2109736
>shrekd
You scared me good m8

>>2109344
perspective is fucked, unless your buildings are supposed to bend the horizon line
Also why dont you do some research, no aztec temple looked like this

I get that you wanna be the next big concept art fuck like Mullins

>>2109239
working with perspective isnt that hard, set 1 or two points and work from there

>>2109344
how long did it take you to do this?

Did some test prints with this design, the process was drawn so..

>>2110313
Very nice

>>2110238
No I wanna be half as good as mullins.
yea the perspective is a bit strange.. I like to take a good shot at it before looking up reference some times.. I do a ton of studies... .. just never of what exactly Im drawing.. I try to creatively implement stuff that was in the morning study into stuff..

>>2110301
5-8h ? somewhere like that?.. in the lower end.. probably 6.. here's the finished version..

>>2110338
thanks mayne

new thread
>>2110415

>>2108768
Wow catbib that's really nice of you, I bet if you put this on your deviant art it would please a lot of your followers!

>>2108675
>>2108707
good beginning, add value in now

>>2108140
I am not too sure what you were going for with the breasts, I have assumed it's a bra with a shear front to them. You need to darken the value of the nipples more and make sure the form of the bra is not interrupted by any value change on the surface.

Also colours need to be picked a little better, take a look at a bit of colour theory and I reckon your paintings will look great, you have a great sense of form and value so keep it up :D

>>2108196
From what I can see you have spent way to long on this drawing already, you have spent more time rendering it than learning anything from it.

You need to be much less careful about your art, If i have a face with a nose in the wrong place then I know my eyes and mouth and brows will be off, so just rub out the face, block in where things are, if they look right start to detail. but detail the piece as a whole and work into more detail after you have completed a pass.

Have fun :D

>>2108444
I love this piece, I actually find it to be very moving.

The way you have been so sparing with your highlights gives the whole peace a somber feeling, your eyes see how the character feels, through the lack of the life you are expecting to see in the highlights.

Wonderful piece, kick ass!

>>2109177
Give it time my friend, I always used to copy artists work like Bengal and such, as I loved that french comic artist style.

As time has went on though I now practice more by drawing from life and painting, I forgot for a long time about my 'style' and slowly it has grown from nowhere but continuous practice. you will then draw quicker once more experienced and that speed is down to your ability to 'stylize' what you draw, your style is just how you quickly places down lines/value etc represent the form.

So practice and it will come!

>>2109283
Dude beautiful work like this should excite you, inspire you to create, don't be so down on your own work!