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Established pros who you think suck dong.

>> No.2090506
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>> No.2090507
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>>2090501
Half of Japanese artists.

>> No.2090509

>>2090501
Why don't you spend your time gitting gud instead of hatin?

>> No.2090511
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>>2090501
the pose is completely broken too, it's shit.

>> No.2090512

>>2090511
Oh /ic/.
You never fail to amuse me with you poor understanding of how things work.

>> No.2090514

>>2090512
The redline is stupid but the pose really is broken. Just look at the legs and tell me this is in any way anatomically correct

>> No.2090516

>>2090514
How would to correct the pose?
Show me.

>> No.2090519

>>2090507
>Read moeshit manga
>Everyone looks like they got down's syndrome
>Suddenly extremely professional looking backgrounds and things

Fucking japs

>> No.2090523
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Just want to make clear I'm not hating. I like the guy as a guy, he seems very genuine etc. And he has great designs and I'm sure he is a fantastic concept artist, from an employer perspective.

But from an artist perspective he is a maximum hack. His recent fanart stuff is literally traced, and all of his work that isn't heavily photobashed or 3d sucks horribly. This is indisputable fact.

>> No.2090524
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>>2090511

Depending on how the cloth is cut/stitched hoods can be pointed when worn.

>> No.2090526

>>2090523
>>2090501

You're not gonna make it, bro.

>> No.2090529
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>>2090501
this one.
Wait - i know that /ic/ hates him and don't think that he's a professional but i think we all know how much money he gets and how sucessful he is.

However it makes me barf that he just don't do nothing but draws characters standing/in mid air in weaboo-ish poses and completely ridiculous anatomy.
Its like all that saves his butt is the use of phototextures and the same weaboo style. Otherwise he wouldn't be so popular.

Also i don't get how feminazies moan and whine about better artist drawing females in steel bikini while Genzoman is a fucking field of broken backbone-Girls and half-naked stereotypes.

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>>2090507

I agree. Their modern style is terrible. 70s,80s, and 90s illustration was much much better in Japan.

>> No.2090548

>>2090529
haha holy shit

>> No.2090555

>>2090529
I remember the time when we all bashed hacks like Genzo, nobody tried to defend them, or lament /ic/ being a shitty board who bashes other artists. Nowadays the hugbox mentality has taken root and you can't even have a bash thread without someone "whiteknighting" polish photobashers. It's sad.

>> No.2090557

>>2090555
>having contrary views is bad!!!
>instead we should just hate on people and jerk each other off on our supposed superiority!!!

>> No.2090559

>>2090557
I didn't say bad, I said sad.

>> No.2090563

>>2090559
>implying sad isnt bad

lol

>> No.2090565

>>2090563
>implying "I just watched a sad movie" means "I just watched a bad movie"
>implying "You're sad" means "You're bad".
Nice ruse faggot.

>> No.2090567

>>2090565
>taking what i'm saying out of context
>implying 'this situation is sad' isnt equivalent to 'this situation is bad'
>thinking any of your examples are relevant

lmao whos tryna ruse who now

>> No.2090568

>>2090529
I don't know anything about Genzo really, but it bothers me how his characters never look like they're actually standing on their feet. It's probably my number one peeve in any art.

>> No.2090569

>>2090512
wether you like it or not, that hoodie is too big for the head.

>>2090516
if you can't see it by yourself then it's already a mistake.

>> No.2090570

>>2090524
yes I know, but it's still too big.

>> No.2090575
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>>2090570
>yes I know, but it's still too big.
>if you can't see it by yourself then it's already a mistake.

>> No.2090576

>>2090569
>>2090570
>I know what I'm talking about but I won't do anything to back it up or demonstrate it. Just trust me. And if you can't see it yourself it's just because you suck, not because I'm wrong.
I'm just so tired of the bs. I'm going to seriously just start ignoring all posts that don't have a drawing/painting attached.

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>>2090570
No, it's not, you idiot.

>> No.2090582

>>2090533
Your eye for aesthetics absolutely sucks. Also even when talking purely about technical skill, you're dead wrong.

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>>2090511
>>2090570

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>>2090570
>>2090569

We've had this discussion already some time ago. Bottom line is, you are too dumb to understand how hoodies work.

I mean, what do you think happens to a thick, leather hoodie when worn on someone's head? It gets sucked to the wearer's cranium or something?

>> No.2090610

>>2090586
nice coat.

>> No.2090614

>>2090501
>>2090586
pshh... nothin' personnel kid

>> No.2090627

>>2090586
can you redline what you may think is the head of that man considering normal human proportions ? you have your face, you should be able to approximately define where the rest of his cranium is situated. Please ? look, i'm not going to do anything and let you bathe in your own stupidity.

I guess you would still deny that the round edge of the top of the hood is suspended in thin air, or that it's a huge and thick layer of lether that somehow is still able to fold. but I guess you will correct me.

>>2090576
sure, ignore it, ignore this one too, ignore the whole thread.

>> No.2090628

That OP image looks like hood was ending with red smear, but artist decided to add more

>> No.2090630

>>2090627
>deny that the round edge of the top of the hood is suspended in thin air
Nobody is denying that, that's exactly what's happening you retard, it's perfectly possible.
> or that it's a huge and thick layer of lether that somehow is still able to fold
Have you honestly never seen a material that it's hard enough not to adhere to forms perfectly, and soft enough to fold? Hell just take your shirt off and drop it to the ground. By your reasoning, it should rest perfectly flat like if it had no structure at all, since there is nothing supporting it. And yet you can easily make it stand 5 cm tall, because it actually HAS a solid structure which supports it. It look "suspended in thin air". And that's an extremely soft t-shirt. Your trousers can probably stand even taller and they are possibly closer to the thickness of that hood.
Not that anon by the way.

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>>2090630
still no redline though.

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>>2090627
Are you genuinely retarded or something? IT IS SUSPENDED IN AIR, that's how it works. The top of the hood does not rest on the fucking cranium. Look at pic related and
>>2090577
>>2090584

>still no redline though.

Because there is nothing to redline, you moron. the shape of the skull is not visibile underneath a hood like that. Is that really so difficult for you to understand?

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>>2090633
You said it yourself that the top of the hood is suspended, what is there to redline? Do you honestly think that the skulls in >>2090584 fill up the hood to the very top? Maybe you have some brain problems resulting from your skull being distorted or something?

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>>2090633
>anime reaction image
As expected.

>> No.2090678

>>2090648
yup, thx for posting, you're showing your lack of understanding of perspective.

>>2090644
and also, I think you're talking about the wrong one though, I was talking about the picture you posted and not the op's one when I was talking about the folds. as the first one obviously fucking doesn't.

>> No.2090679

>>2090523
the 1 maciej hater.

do you paint traditional or something?
what's got you so butthurt here?

>> No.2090684

>>2090678
You're welcome.

>> No.2090685

>>2090678

Not him but whats wrong with the perspective?
The ellipse is placed correctly and the cross contours seem pretty legit.

All you've been saying so far is:

>x is wrong because I say so

The only thing you're showing is your lack of understanding of well, everything. You can't even draw confident lines >>2090511 you really shouldn't be talking.

>> No.2090686

It's just really funny that the only concepts /ic/ can grasp their heads around is perspective, anatomy, and literally everything else doesn't matter.

>> No.2090698

>>2090523
Go fucking draw something. Instead of wasting time and energy complaining about shit like this

>> No.2090701

>>2090685

go ahead and judge someone's art with three shitty lines. Do not be so confident yourself, I'm probably better than you in that field. you may regret it one day.

>>2090686
is photo-bashing supposed to matter ?

>> No.2090711

>>2090701
>>2090678

Why can't you just admit that you were wrong? You did not understand how hoods work, now several people have explained it to you and posted real life examples. Isn't this a good thing? Now you have actually learnt something, so when you some day have to draw a character wearing a hood, you won't make the mistake and have the hood stuck to the skull.

I seriously don't understand why so many people who claim they are artists flat out refuse to learn anything new. They will fight to the death, trying to defend their argument, no matter how wrong it is, instead of being open minded and admitting when they were wrong.

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>>2090701
>I'm probably better than you in that field. you may regret it one day.
>you may regret it one day.

>> No.2090724

From my time on /ic/ I've learned that the people most concerned about spotting anatomical flaws in the artwork of others usually are the most amateur

>> No.2090726

>>2090711

just stop, those are two terrible examples of good hoods. the second one is even worse then the first. I don't really understand how you can even think about it being physically correct.