/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Haven't draw properly for a while. Warm up + chuckle drawing.

Seriously, i started this painting even though i haven't fully mastered my understanding in values , does someone have advice on how to proceed ?

Figuring out the colors and the background.


I actually don't know where to start

DO YOU LIKE THIS DRAWING I DID? I DREW IT WITH A PENCIL.

>>2076841
really cool, one of your best I think

>>2076899
Hard to say at that stage, I'd try making lightsources clearer by picking a primary one and damping down the rest.
Currently it seems liek it has 2 primary ones, one coming from the moon and other one from the right.
Also the moon is somehow distracting.

>>2076925
I dig it, don't be afraid to shade more though.

>>2076899

Far from knowing what I'm talking about, but maybe you should try to focus more on creating an interesting arrangement of light/dark instead of thinking 'this object has this material therefore it has this value and'

mr. suit

>>2076762
nice dragon op

Hi OP is that dragon yours? How do you render with such precision in the face neck area? Brush? Thinking process?

Some watercolor studies from today

>>2077086

very good! how do?

>>2076762
i didnt post this in the last draw thread so HERE YA GO

10 minute sketch

>>2077095
I'm glad you like it! But I'm not sure if I understand the question ):

>>2077119

Sorry, I went full retard.

I plan on doing watercolors this summer, got any advice for the technique?

getting into color.

tried to replicate face-shadow effect from another artist, not sure if it went well

goat

>>2077127
Oh, to be sincere, I'm pretty new to watercolors myself, but I will try to give advice based on whay I could figure out for now. It can be very very frustrating to work with it because you basically can't correct your mistakes, so, plan your moves carefully and pay attention all the time to what you are doing. If you get tired and get less attentious, quit for some time. Also, always draw the points where the highlights should be and be very careful when painting around it, it is VERY easy to fuck up. Also, if you commit a mistake, you can use pure water and rub the brush on the area, it will be less apparent, but it will never disappear completely and the rubbing makes things uglier, so avoid it the most you can. Flat brushes are working the best for me and giving me the most precision, but that depends on what you want to do I suppose. As for colors, I'm using an extremely reduced pallete of 3 colors (magenta, ultramarine blue and cadmium yellow) because it's all I could pay for for now. If you are also short in money, always prefer the reduced pallete that is of a good brand than a complete one that is crap, it really, really makes a LOT of difference, it's ridiculous. I think that's it for now, if I remember something else I post again.

Some speedpainty shit i'll render later

>>2077016
hmm

>>2077196
Cast shadow on the face is off. Specifically, you have the highlight from the primary light source present in the shadow but darkened. If it's in the shadow then it shouldn't be affected by the primary light source for the most part (barring bounce light, subsurface scattering, etc).

I noticed you did the same thing for your secondary light source (the rim light on the right). When it meets the head the light there suddenly darkens. Since it's an independent light source, it can exist just as strongly in the shadows of the primary (depending on what is your secondary light source and if anything is obstructing it).

>>2077212
How are you able to achieve soft edges?
(Or the illusion of soft edges, I guess)
Or is that kind of a result of how you're putting the paint down? Because I know you can drip some watercolors down then, as it's still wet, you bring another color into it. Idk dawg.

>>2077234
makes sense, thanks

Done I think

Crit appreciated

Didn't pay particular attention to the construction.

>>2077031
Thanks
>>2077039
Kinda hard to explain in words. I happened to have a lot of the older states saved as layers so I threw pic related together. Hopefully helps somewhat.

What I tried to do is mostly focus on establishing overall forms (neck is a bent cylinder, head has parts of cones, spheres, boxes, etc). Define a light direction, and try to model according to those base forms.

As for detail, a good amount was from the drawing in the first panel. A lot of the details come just from refining edges a bit, clarifying larger planes, etc. Most of the bits of detail come from an edge trick seen in the Arne Jansson painting down there. Min Yum does it a lot in his work too, and I've always liked it.

For the detailing, be much more subtle with your color and value transitions. You don't want to break the big light and dark shapes.

From the 100% zoom you can see that the painting is a bit sloppy, but reads better once it's downscaled for the web. I noticed that was the case with a lot of the art of the Massive Black guys back when somebody posted full res file samples of their work.


>tldr: Paint/think of simple major forms > refine to smaller and smaller forms

Crit v. much appreciated. Don't know if I should flesh it out in oil more?

>>2077322
Forgot pic

>>2077312
welp, you should

>>2077291
The spear head lining up with use looks a bit staged. I'd rotate it a bit along it's axis so that one side of the blade is closer to us.

The dude's complexion looks like it's different in the light and shadow. Judging by the wall it looks like your primary light is warm and the shadows are very cool. The head though looks equally warm as the hand, and it seems yellower too. Either make the hand warmer or the head cooler (or both).

Still looks like a wip. There's no contrast in detail - everything is equally smooth with broad strokes. No small brush strokes or texture anywhere. I'd introduce some pattern work somewhere in the clothing (probably the cloak, along the main color or just the trim). The face also looks unfinished. It's a focal point, so spend a little more time on it. Same with the hand - try to get some deep dark reds for occlusion shadows where you can.

wip

gonna add armor

>>2077343
Forgot to add, I know it's early in the process, but C&C very much appreciated

>>2077343
might aswell make it a crusader

Please criticize this face for me. Also, does this look to manga-ish? I started learning art from manga, but now I'm trying to lose the bad habits I picked up from it. When I'm drawing outside of realism I try to make it look as "western" as possible.

>>2077363
Oops. Sorry about the rotated orientation.

>>2077363
oh jesus, youre hopeless.

What do you guys think?

>>2077363
>>2077385
Fucking masterpieces

>>2077395
>>2077384
This is definitely how you're supposed to provide insightful critique to help someone improve.
Every beginner sucks. People who have been drawing for years suck. And that's okay.

>>2077401
>posts animu pic on a draw thread
your credibility is showing

Lay it on me. Piece is 36 inches by 24, All done in pencil and a slight big of prisma colors. I didn't get as much time as I wanted but I turned this in for a grade. I understand I took a picture with a phone from before 2009 so, quality is not the best. Still this was a school project and I realized fuck them, I can make the grade and build my own style. How am I coming in terms of Drawing 1500 at a university (entry level), and really trying to push my own style and message. (which I did not state.)

>>2077403
Not him but there is no credibility on here - only what you show in your drawings based on how strong fundamentals are.

>>2077417
>only what you show in your drawings based on how strong fundamentals are.
then you should have listened to your own words and posted some of your work instead of anime reaction pics.

>>2077312
minor touches
>>2077329
You're right, but i'm also more focused on the values of the original piece, copying the exact outlines is really time consuming and not really rewarding in this case.

>>2077343
>sticking your sword point first into the ground
>sticking your sword point first into the rocky ground of some cavern
>sticking your sword point first into the rocky underwater ground of some cavern
Now that is obviously just me being autistic. However, what is she doing exactly? I mean sure she is striking this "cool" pose, but in a random cavern? Is she admiring the walls, like is she a speleologist or something? I'm failing to see the narrative. If she was supposed to be just a pretty girl in armor standing there, then the composition is hurting the subject. Even if she were supposed to be staring at the stones for some reason, it seems to me that the way the canvas is utilized doesn't really make for an interesting composition, since the object/s she's supposedly admiring is off screen, and instead you've got a whole lot of the background taking lot of space for no apparent reason/with nothing happening.

>>2076942
thanks!

some quick concepts. for the time frame should have focused one one i think

>>2077500
>I like the one in the middle.

>>2077502
Awe :(

Just a sketch but I wanna paint this so if anybody's got some tips as to how to make the composition interesting or some stuff to point out before I do so, it would be much appreciated

fst

>>2077321
Pretty cool guide man. Makes me wish I'd seen it before I did tonights thing

>>2077500
I like the circle design on the third one, kind of interesting.

>>2077444
I feel ya on the sword abuse man, It just makes for an interesting but easy to draw pose so that's my bad.

Someone else commented that her looking off screen fucked the composition over, so i flipped her around. My idea is that there's some sort of shrine or something in there that she's admiring/paying respects to. I'm not really sure but I'll figure it out.

How would you recommend utilizing more of the canvas efficiently?

Should I add some other knights weighting in the background? Maybe make her bigger and more towards the foreground?

Thanks for the advice

>>2077357
As in a holy warrior? Why ?

>>2077407
Maybe ground the two bottom lizards by making the fingers actually grabbing the terrain, they are kind of just floating right now.

Also your clouds are very cotton-ballish, nimbus clouds, which I think are the ones you're drawing are actually flat on the bottom. Maybe study some real clouds before making up you're own.

Also It doesn't seem very stylized if thats what you're going for, the lizards look like they may have been referenced from photographs other than the fingers, which might be where you tried stylizing?

Also the front lizard would be touching the glass in that positioning, and it's body isn't reflecting any interaction with the jar. Maybe have it turning, or bring the legs further down to place the lizard in a better position in space.

>>2077534
it looks like a ninja turtle made of rocks and a dude is walking across his arm that's reaching out to the viewer if you zoom in

am i hopeless ic?

>>2077578
Oh snap, I think I see it. Can't unsee now. Pretty cool observation!

>>2077580
depends if you're willing to put in effort to learn how to draw, starting in this thread >>2074951
But if you aren't willing to do that, you are hopeless (in fact, anyone who isn't willing to put in effort to learn to draw is hopeless).

>>2077547
leave some skeletons, webs, writings, chains or treasures lying around

That feel when cell phone camera. Reference used.

>>2077363
>Please make sure your posted image is clear and is under 1500 x 1500 pixels in size.
>>2077385
>>2077407
>>2077580
>Please make sure your posted image is clear and is under 1500 x 1500 pixels in size.
>Please make sure your posted image is clear and is under 1500 x 1500 pixels in size.
>Please make sure your posted image is clear and is under 1500 x 1500 pixels in size.
Please

>>2077235
Soft edges are very easy to do with watercolors, I'm very sure you will figure. All you have to do is to work with the colors while the paint is still wet. While it's wet, you can put one color besides the other and they will blend basically by themselves. Also, you can wet the area you are going to paint itself insead, and then you apply the colors, they will spread around the area the paper is wet. It doesn't need to be as cryptic as having to move the paper so it drips at all, I'm sure you will manage. Be sure to buy a good quality paper! It is very important. If the paper is crap, there is MUCH less possibilities for you in this medium.

>>2077205
i really like this one, but the composition looks to flat, IDK, maybe its juste that arm and hand

Finally bought a tablet. :')

http://www.roillz.tumblr.com/

>>2077615
my bad

>>2077615
my bad

playing around
I find landscape stuff difficult

From reference, obviously.

>>2077335

Thank you very much anon!

Oil painting, I need to fiddle with the neck and the ear tassels still but would like some crit

>>2077741
try painting instead of drawing.

Tried out constructing a bunch of random faces from imagination. Here's one of them.

>>2077750
annoying

>>2077742
Can you explain how this is helpful advice?

>>2077758
What I can see from that image, you have very little blending among those colors, I bet I could do the same result with pencils.

I think you are too focused on just coloring different areas, try layering and making things without outlines. Looks like the only painted part is the background, that just follows the outlines of mask. Try looking at the basics of painting first.

>>2076984
For some reason I love this. It's shit, but I love it.

>>2077086
Reminds me of Benjamin Björklund

>>2077763
I see, this is just the underpainting so I was trying to set down guides for cool/warm tones and shadows, should I be going about it differently? I figured that when I start with the colour I should be slowly building up layers gradually to keep it from getting muddy.

Also a ref I used on the mask.

>>2077547
>As in a holy warrior? Why ?
because swords are stupid

>>2077580
yes, in so many levels, you are hopeless.

Pls no bully ;_;

Playing with brushes.

>>2077834
I think you should play with light instead.

>>2077829

It's cute. but the thing about metal and armor is it's high reflectivity of the environment. Rendering a piece of armor in a white-box-room might give you a false idea about how it's surface works. Regardless it's a good start. Just something to be aware of since there's a lot of weirdness involved with rendering shiny stuff.

>>2077741
I think the color is too stiff. I mean it kinda stays in one hue. I'd probably add some cool rim light if I were you. Just my 2 cents

>>2077841
Will keep in mind, thanks. Metal is hard

>>2077250
It's kinda scary to look at. Is that weird?

>>2076762

Imo the biggest problem with this piece and something majorly responsable for it's amateur look is the fact that there's no clear 'key' to the values. There's no statement about wether things that are illuminated are more important than things in the shadows. It's all very 50-50 while avoiding extremes on either end, making the light look somewhat dull and boring.

Would love some opinions on this.

>>2077848
His armors look like they're made of stone actually. >>2077841 this is what an armor made of metal looks like.

>>2077866
Here's my take on this. I'm no expert in lighting but I think the values are distracting from the focal point. The shadows especially because they are very harsh and very dark. I tried to emphathize the focal point by adding more contrast to that point and less contrast to the surroundings.

>>2077876
Much better. Good fix.

>>2077843
Thanks, I'll definitely use that rim lighting
>>2077763
Also yeah, I think you're right, I'll keep the advice in mind with my next painting, thanks anon.

>>2077598
Woah, that's pretty cool

>>2076762
does this even look remotely three-dimensional

> inb4 ponyfag
ITS NOT THAT KIND OF PONY

>>2077086
looks great, you got any finished pieces in watercolour

Sorry for the shit quality, I screenshotted it and brought into paint to crop.

This is, basically, my first 'real' painting in photoshop. I feel like everything feels like the same material. No reference yet.

This is a work in progress that I just started maybe 20 minutes ago, any tips for where I should take it? The lines are darker IRL, my camera made it look funny

Here is something I am working on. right now I am jsut blocking in the light sources and general greyscale. Thoughts? Comments?

I would really appreciate any crits you got, this if for a final in an illustration class

>>2078036
Perspective is your friend

>>2078036
Everything looks incredibly flat

>>2078043
>>2078042

I think my wording in my original post was wrong, I am working on laying in flat freyscale values, and have not put in any major shading. I was just screwing around with the guy on the right.

I was more asking for crits on composition, design, poses, etc... thanks.

What do you mean by perspective though?

>>2076762
want to color this or give it some tone today, just pencil so far

>>2078052
>What do you mean by perspective though?
Draw the same scene but place the camera behind the guy in the right

>>2078070
Shit, that would be a cooler point of view, but I don't know if I have time to redo the whole thing from that point of view, this thing is due next wednesday.

>>2078080
You got plenty of time

>>2078080
>making up excuses instead of getting to work
>disgusting
How many comps did you do before you decided to settle with this one?

>>2076762
Currently working on this. I'm stuck.

Tell me what sucks so I can improve.

>>2078086

a metric shitton m8

like honestly at least 8 or 9 4 x6 thumbs

>>2078092
>like honestly at least 8 or 9 4 x6 thumbs
Can you show us? Did none of them have a proper foreground, middle ground, and background? Not to imply that every piece needs all 3, but for a dynamic action scene you'd imagine one character being closer to the camera than the other. Right now everything (characters, environment) exists on a flat plane perpendicular to the viewer. It's like we're looking at paper cutouts glued to a window, and through the window is just the dark night sky.

At the very least establish a horizon, and some visual cue that shows depth.

pls help

>>2078090

Don't paint until you can draw, read books and practice, when you can draw like pic related at least, you'll be ready to start painting.

>>2078124

hehe, forgot pic

>>2078121
Bit dark and muddy. Did a quick paintover, it's a little overly airbrushed and glowy, but that's what happens when I do this quick and sloppy.

But yeah, you need to hold your local values more, like hte legs are so dark just cause they're in shadow, when in reality there would be a lot more light bouncing around and lighting them up.

>>2078134

>you need to hold your local values more

thanks! back to greyscale for a while I guess

>>2078126
Oh, okay, so I should give up on this painting?

>>2078150
Don't listen to that anon. Yes, you need to learn to draw. No, you aren't forbidden from painting until you reach a certain level of draftsmanship. Work on learning both at the same time, or you will run into walls in the future when you can only do one and struggle with the other.

>>2078150

I'm "that anon" again, what I meant is that for a good painting you need a very solid structure, or else the result will probably look shitty.

Pic related, you have to think of painting as a 3D rendering program where you can model objects and set up lights, but instead of having a PC doing all the work you are the one who does it, with brush strokes.

Hard as fuck but fun too once you start to understand it a bit.

beginner here, could i get some tips on this shit before i actually start drawing?

>>2078173

not bad, but work more on the way the parts interact (head/torso, shoulder/torso, etc.) so you gain more solidity, also the silhouette has to read properly, check if it does.

>>2077794
sweet thx

JUST got my new Wacom tablet. Real noob here tho, wish I was half as good as the rest of you.

>>2077876

Thanks anon. Made me see some key issues.

>>2078209
ayy lmao

>>2078209
I think this is what you were going for.

>>2078244
kekarino

>>2077321
neat!

>>2076762

>>2078281
why a sword? why not a sexy flail?

>>2078281
Holy balls anon

>>2078286

LOL i wanna see that

>>2078289
>>2078286

Well it's my picture so i'll do whatever the fuck I want, you turds.

>>2078295
>kek u little imposter

>>2078286
Too many curves in the piece

>>2078281
No weight

That dress is too clean it would slog against her even in heavy wind. That terrain looks dirty why isn't it torn?

What is the sensation the expression you are after?

What is it you want to achieve with this picture? It is ugly but it could become quite beautifull if developed into another picture with a clearer goal.

It looks like you used photos for the most part Since everything you painted is ugly.

>>2078298
>stay jelly

>>2077688

got a tumblr?

>>2078303
Stay fleshy and bony.

I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.

>>2078314
can you delete your post?

>>2077216
Continuation of this one

>>2078314
Eyes are easy, man. Step up.

dunno where im going with this

>>2077688
awesome colors

>>2078335
You could cut a diamond with that chin

>>2077216
>>2078318
These look pretty cool man.

My dog Winston decided to put a crown logged biggie smalls. Still need to paint

drawing it from imagination

>>2077967
I like it

>>2078064
looks great anon keep it up.

>>2076762
I need to work on my backgrounds.

>>2078298
yikes

>>2078281
Dude....

>>2078298
Kek @ all the nitpicking

>>2078433
Pretty good forms for the most part. I like the helmet a lot.

Big guy's cranium and ear read a little flat. His right pectoral and shoulder also look a bit flat, possibly from the values rolling to shadows a little too early compared to the planes of his left pectoral and shoulder.

experimentan

>>2077914
Thank you friend. Have a gun

>>2078433
are you the merc guy

>>2078446
nice style, got any more?

>>2078559
>that obvious samefagging

>>2078589
this

Quick value practice for tonight. Really need to get more sleep.

>>2078559

>>2078596
looks like you need to practice form too.

>>2078641
jesus this place is mean. I didnt draw that but why is everybody here an asshole?

>>2078654
I hear ya. That's my biggest problem with this board.

This is what Ive got so far

>>2078602
Cool, more please. I like your designs

>>2078654
Seems obvious but people would probably be a lot nicer if posts weren't anonymous. I don't think that guy was too mean though, the forms could use more work.
>>2078596 try to construct the values so that you can read the image clearly even as a thumbnail.

This is what I've got so far

>>2078654
>>2078660
>>>/out/

>>2078654
>>2078660
>>2078666
its because there used to be a reasonably high level of skilled artists here but ever since the sakimi/Kr0n shitstorm+summer the board is flooded with Tumblr/DA tween shitters who just like to circlejerk and see any genuine critique as an attack on their character

>>2078675
What are you even responding to

>>2078281
>dress cracked

nice photobash anon

>>2078684
Shhh!

You might offend someone!

>>2078355
Thanks bruh, i'm trying to channel a bit of that style in the dragon age inquisition tarot cards in some of these; don't think i'm getting there yet.

>>2078244
kek
Also I shat myself

Goddammit

tried to do one of these tryhard photobash sci fi cityscapes. cc welcome.
gonna go back to just painting plein air next.

>>2078788
Are you daltonic son?

My latest sketch. I dont know what to draw or how to from my head so I just copy photos

>>2078064
this is beautiful

>>2078281
and this

>>2078396
love the intense colours, looks very real

>>2078803
maybe the same colorblind guy who turned a girl into an orc on accident

>>2078802
This would be more than good enough to get into movie concept work

>>2078816
Lol why would you remember that.
>>2078803
>Are you daltonic son?
I dont know, i hope not, kinda scared to go to the oculist now haha

>>2078802

I agree with this guy >>2078819
This is some really good photobashing work, and the scene makes sense, everything fits.

>>2078865
as much as everyone sucks your dick for your garbage ms paint doodles, the colors in this are nice

>>2078874
i was thinking how i could add more blue, but didn't felt right.

>>2078819
>>2078856
Holy shit, I didn't expect to get pats on the back for that one. Thank you very much!!

>>2078865
really cool, maybe think about another way to work on the hair than solid black?

>>2078876
>>2078878

try incorporating it into the hair

>>2078876

From my experiences you rarely want to use "pure" values (as in RBG values, so no (255, 0, 0) and the like), ditto with white and black.

>>2078878
do you think this is better?

>>2078885
srry, i don't even know what is a value, do you know any tutorial?

>>2078890
why are you even here if your vocab sucks.

>>2078891
im here to learn

>>2078892
theres a thread for that.
>>2078193

>>2078826
Uh, unless you willingly deviated from the reference I have bad news for you. Original is light blue and orange, yours is purple, grayish and yellow.

>>2078893
nah, its boring, but ill look for a tutorial, you don't have to teach me

>>2078889
Tough question, its definitely great you broke up the sillouette with some strands of hair so it doesnt look like you just stopped working ont it.

I dont know enough about abstract art to really critique this though. I would have tried to get the multicolored feel into the hair by using colored lightsources but you dont use strong lighting and I feel like this style doesnt require any harsh lighting since it lives off of the colors.

Sorry can't really answer you on this!

>>2078788
>>2078803
>>2078816

Dude with the sci fi city here, I am daltonic. Real fun when people asked me why my fire is green.
Only tip I can give you is not to mix colors by yourself but pick them in photoshop where you know where on the color wheel green stops and yellow begins/magenta stops and blue begins. etc

(english is not my mothertongue so now I know the exact term for that, used to call it red-green colorblindness, thanks!)

>>2078909
Or use premade palettes.

Also, from my perspective you nailed the colors haha.

>>2078667
beginners thread and sticky you should find.

Derp practice trying to figure out a consistent workflow for all this generic shit you see in trading card games everywhere these days.

>inb4 comments about fucked up anatomy, face, composition etc. - I know about all of it fags

>>2079031
Looks fine, but why are you posting if you're disregarding any critique/comments?

>>2079031
Derp face, fucked up arms, legs, ears and neck anatomy, double feet hide, turd hair, inconsistent light.
Nice glows niggerfaggot.

>>2079031
brush work is aweful

>>2079031
>comments about fucked up anatomy, face, composition
But those are all easy fix dude, other wise, looking good
>>2079042
>brush work
Could you elaborate please?

>>2079036
>double feet hide

What kind of a retarded comment is this? Every time when feet dont fit in the picture its "feet hide" in your mind, you faggot?

Actual "feet hide" you can complain about is in most of Frazettas work when Conan is standing in tall grass for no other reason than Frazetta being unable to paint feet, dont be a retard an parrot that criticism for every piece that doesnt include full figure kek.

>>2079031
you need to make her face more le sexy erotic for it to be generic card sh*t, othet that that its pretty damn decent

>>2079047
>Every time when feet dont fit in the picture its "feet hide" in your mind, you faggot?
They would fit just fine and make for a much better composition if that other faggot bothered to expand the canvas you retard.

>>2078064
Is the girls other arm running along her side?

>>2079043
not enough hard edges and everything kinda feels blurred.

>>2079047
The image is cropped near the ankles. Cropping on joints is generally avoided because it visually implies amputation.

Also, if the whole figure is visible except the feet - a small part of the body - it looks like it was intentionally avoided due to difficulty.

An hour in..

>>2079058
thats a good point, i guess i kinda forgot about where her other arm is supposed to be, the way i set her shoulder up it should de hanging visible err

I want to finish this sketch but I didnt start with reference so I have no idea how the hell to draw the legs and where to put those stupid arms

>>2078320
haha

Hey /ic/, I should be copying comic pages to promote myself this june, but I just can't get in the thing. I've become too used in drawing single images I guess.
what do

Lookin' good man, I think I might take a break from learning anatomy and try my hand and painting some. I'm sure it'll help me learn.

Working on an illustration, could use some advice please.

>>2079467
so fucking boring

>>2079467
i would tell you to practice your fundamentals but of course you wont youll jjust keep shitposting your garbage paint drawings and wait for the 15 year olds to suck on your "muh style"

>>2079435
>I should be copying comic pages to promote myself this june
How would copying comic pages promote yourself, and why do you need to do it?

>>2079501
i thought i was the only one that assumed this guy was shitposting the entire time

>>2079501
>>2079510
Nope. He may have created them in paint, so if you can't see past that superficial quality, then you can't see the appeal. And forget about the content, it doesn't matter.

Look at the variety in the shapes and forms. Certainly far from flawless, but there is obvious sensitivity to what he is creating. Graphic quality, simplification of forms, limited color palette - all deliberate choices. Give this guy a pencil and paper and he'll probably come up with something just as interesting. Look past the medium.

>>2079522
>he'll probably come up with something just as interesting.
thats the thing, theyre not interesting.

Just spent about 40 hours on this, holy shit. Plz critique, tear it a new b hole.

>>2079535
There is absolutely no focus. The right side in particular is an awkward mess. It's over detailed in all the wrong places.

It's incredibly obvious you're resistant to redoing large chunks of your drawings, and instead are trying to make up for by adding more and more detail. I really advise you to accept that you need to redo major chunks of the piece, or to start over.

The backdrop is really well done, and the drawing had great potential. The right side of the image is just too fucked to continue without making major changes.

Good luck!

>>2079534
All right, I respect that.
>>2079467
You can certainly take them further, based on this and your other posts. I personally like your aesthetic. May want to check out the works of graphic illustrators like Aubrey Beardsley if you already haven't. Add more personal touches and brush up on basic (like facial anatomy) and I think you'll be onto something.

>>2079535
Looks like something Daarkens students would do, its got that nice painterly feel to it. Honestly can't really tear it up without being picky and just general opinion.

Those trees look nice too, I find them hard to tackle.

>>2078802
Looks nice, honestly there is nothing wrong with photobashing since it helps cutdown on time.

Do actual paintings count? I've been with this oil piece for a little while. Trying to get a better understanding of temperature by just using reds and greens.

>>2079561
this is more acceptable than the faggish illustrations posted and the animu faggotry around in this thread.

>>2079561
Very nice representation of second degree burns on various parts of the body. Good job!

>>2079545
wait daarken teaches now?

>>2079568
His own online Mentorship, it's actually really cheap and you learn a lot from him from his live chats and video commentaries on your assignments.

>>2079540
That's what I'm talkin about. The right side is what I was really unsure about. So I really need to work on the preliminary steps and get my composition, focus and subject down before I go and render everything is basically the gist of this? I should really do those 3 value thumbnails or something.

>>2079540
If i basically spotlit the batlord from a light through the trees, might that be a viable solution?

>>2079535
>>2079573

Totally man. It gets tricky.

I've attached what I would personally go towards. There could be a better range of lighter values. If you open up 'Levels', you'll see it's very heavily skewed towards dark values. Maybe try lightening up the backdrop to help contrast the dark, dead foreground.

I think some thicker trees in the foreground would also help the separation between the two areas of the drawing. The current dead trees are so twiggy that they're sort of blending into the background.

Hope this helps! Again, this is just my idea of how it could be fixed a bit.

>>2079590
Nothing more dumb than when you forget your image.

>>2079592
worse

>>2079592
Damn, I actually quite like that and it really makes me want to keep the bat guy in shadow, but yeah, there's a massive black line right in the middle so I don't know about that. Thank you, this helps. I'm definitely gonna have to sleep on it

>Is new to /ic/
>Is an idiot that made a post for this piece when should have posted it here.
I'm new to digital. I feel fairly confident in my physical handiwork. I've been reading Andrew Loomis and doing life drawings for awhile, so I decided to give digital a try.
Suggestions for this?

taking random whacks at my computer, so little experience with any drwing

>>2078007 no tips but ypu seem like you have a really interesting style

>>2079610
so you studied loomis and life drawings for awhile, however with all that learning you put effort into. the best you can do is draw a head in greyscale? not even a full fledged figure?

>>2079592

I love the foresty vibe you get by cutting the canvas repeatedly with the foreground trees. It works incredibly well from afar (thumb) but somehow you manage to lose the appeal when the image is looked at from up close.

Also, your work is a little muddy, but I always figured this was somewhat of a stylistic choice because it's something you put into all of your pieces. One thing you could try to play with maybe would be to really make deliberate decisions as to where you peak your saturation, and where you keep it held back.

Another thing I think works great is how you create a sense of the viewer being immersed by keeping the foreground warm and the 'outside' scene cold. That works really well.

>>2079624
I understand your slightly irrelevant disappoint anon, but why is that important, exactly? The body isn't fully drawn out. The face is what I've been working on.
I realize that it's malpractice to draw details before getting everything else out of the way, but I'm new to digital. Converting isn't exactly a hard process, but it's trying.
Being new to the digital medium, so bar I've only drawn the body in pieces. I will probably draw the bottom half but I at least want to do this first.

>>2079624
As an added note: I'm not familiar with my medium. I find it only fair that I start small, get accustomed to it, and go from there.

Unless you're an individual that believes one's way of drawing or painting can be filtered through any media regardless of medium without getting your feet wet.

>>2079610
Looks good anon. The rimlight makes part of her cheek feel completely flat or concave even.

>>2079634
the digital medium is irrelevant, so stop using it as an excuse. the point i was trying to make from my previous post was, why put the effort into learning if youre not going to use it? loomis has many examples and theories about construction and you should be using that to its full potential. i feel like you just arnt putting the right amount of work on the right piece.

>>2079649
And I feel like youre a moron, buddy, guy puts a nice head and your criticism of said head is that

>its in greyscale?

Like it should be, especially when starting out. Converting this to full color is easy when you got the values right.

>its not full figure?

What kind of a retarded comment is this? Do you go to every portrait artist and complain in his ear that he isnt painting a full figure?

I'm not the dude youre criticising but this shit just starts pissing me off, whenever someone uploads a competent artwork in here theres always this one guy at least who complains about irrelevant shit just to piss on someones boots.

>>2079634
Brow bone not low enough, she look Asian

>>2079650
youre a fucking moron, read my posts thoroughly. i said this guy has potential and he is just wasting it on just a fucking portrait when he could be doing something better. shouldnt you be expecting more elaborated and concrete work from someone who has been studying?

>>2079657
And since when full figure is somehow flat out better than a portrait? Who told you that?

>>2079661
who reads and studies loomis only to draw portraits?

>>2079668
I see, youre a troll. Okay, got me, good job man. I kinda was thinking that somethings fishy here since you couldnt be this dumb.

>>2079670
>changes subject
seems like your anger caught up to you.

>>2079670
You don't understand man, look at all this wasted potential I've got here. Really wondering why he did this instead of a full figure. I mean he's miles better than that other guy so the wasted potential is even greater! Must have been a moron clearly.

>>2077615
Die.

>>2079668
>who reads and studies loomis only to draw portraits?

Portraitists?

>>2079683
and which of his books does it focus on drawing portraits?

>>2079649
Right, you're pretty right, but the knowledge in my opinion isn't being wasted. I'll do better in the future. That knowledge isn't going anywhere. I'm adapting. If I don't know, then I don't. The digital medium is a barrier. You go from direct observation, looking at your Mark making and drawing, to looking at a screen and drawing "indirectly" on a tablet. That's pretty different to me.

>>2079686
Any book that talks about drawing the head? You're sorta arguing against yourself here man. You're saying he should post "more" because he's reading books based on the whole figure. And yet he posted a face shot with nothing but the holy knowledge of Loomis.

I think a portraitist can be competent with just Loomis, or any other artist's book. Why limit your knowledge to just portrait books playa?

>>2079455
Was able to put another half hour into this. Changed the body

>>2079686
What are you going to argue next, that since the book was titled "drawing the head and hands" he should have added hands floating around too?

>>2079703
Have larger, more solid blocks of values. It's all over the place now.

If you look look at the thumbnail, you should be able to make of the major forms clearly.

>>2079710

>>2079722
Much more elaborate and concrete work, I can see you've been studying.

Study <3

>>2079723
>>2079727

the fuck is this hardogay shit???

workin on the bae

>>2079736
Shantae?

My nigga.

>>2079731
Seems whole permaboobs is swamped with it..

>>2079723
>>2079727
>>2079731

someone explain

Value study. Think I messed up the values a bit.

>>2079742
>>2079731
It's a signature. This niggers signing his studies.

Let that sink in.

>>2079736

Anon, how are you so comfortable with faces? I can't draw a decent woman without fucking everything up that I put down for a good hour. I think I'm confused about how the layers of the face overlap via rotation, so I guess my answer is ref study.

nvm.

>>2079753
All of them look like different artist though..

New to anime.

Speed painting?
Drinking?
Yes.

>>2077086
That looks fucking nice

>>2079760
They're studies, they should look different.

>>2079763
yeah well you already have the hang of how to draw kawaii, so you're more or less pro right now.

>>2079743
you made things too bright and didn't really capture the soft transitions and subtlety of the lightings even if it is a basic block in

>>2079763
More like new to drawing

>>2079855

Read.

Anime.

A few hours from life, couldn't finish. Looking for critiques.

>>2079911
You read mangas, you WATCH animes you fucking imbecile.

>>2079912
Wobbly construction. I'm kind of surprised, since the rendering is nice. It's something you see often in digital, but not that often in traditional. Paint less and draw more.

>>2079912
about one step too simple value wise, and a bit compressed. and the structure of the nose is all fucked up. if you have trouble with that just do a more technical drawing of that part and paint over it (or do it on a piece of paper and reference it).

otherwise i think it's very nice, i like the slight caricaturing with the relative size of the features, gives it a lot of life, and is very de rigueur atm.

>>2079912
nice, perspective on the nose is off though

>>2079916

How autistic are you?

continue with this or no?

>>2079938
The cool part is the wings/ the connection to a moth. But the whole gasmask-with-glowing-eyes-and-cables thing is just generic.
People jizz themselfes about designs like that tough, you won't meet much critique if you just go on in that direction.

I advise you to explore the moth theme further and give the character some more mothlike features in the front. Or go full contrast with the wings and the body.
rendering is nice.

>>2079948
hmm yeah sounds good was gonna try to fix up the wings more to look more moth like and was gonna try for multiple arms wanted its supposed to be a cyberpunk mothman but i wanted him to feel like hes got oldschool technology to show how old he is

>>2079505
Copying is faster than doing them from scrtach.
I'm going to show them to a guy I know that works with a major editor in my country
"works" meaning he draws comics and is kind of popular here

Hello friends of /ic/, a buddy of mine has already long been in the ancient world of tattoo, but it still not has been able to be known professionally. I ask that if you can help you simply voting the tattoo design that has submitted to a contest. Thanks to all!!!
Here is the link: https://www.socialtools.me/apps.php?id=218615&app_data=eyJzZWN0aW9uIjoiZ2FsZXJpYSIsInVzZXJfaWQiOjQyNDU2OTl9&nocache=1

>>2079994
If I asked you to stop sucking on dog dicks, you would do it? I believe not

>>2080004
of course not! but... i think... only wanna a little help... sorry...

>>2080021
Get... the fuck out... tumblr shitstain... kill yourself...

>>2076762 my comic/manga :P

Crits nad tips?

Stud

>>2079987

fuck this show and everyone who watches it. tumblr is fucking polluted with its bullshit.

>>2079988
So like a portfolio in effect? Wouldn't the editor need to see what you can do on your own with new prompts, rather than just having the technical skill to replicate what's in front of you?

create a new draw threat you shits

>>2080163
Anyone can make a new thread. Whatcha waiting for son?

>>2079988
So you're going to copy someones comic and then show it to the guy, he'll then hire you to make a comic and you'll get fired on this first day because you can't find a comic matching his request on google?

Would love a crit

>>2080127
Another stud

New thread:
>>2080301
>>2080301

>>2080243
if this is naturalistic to the model, the model looks terrible, but I guess its your doing...face is utter shit and your use of brushes is utter shit. look at that fucking hand mate, come on, scrap that and redo if you want honest critique