/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2072562
So basically beginners trying compensate with expensive tools?

>>2072567

Nothing wrong with enjoying neato tools if you can afford them.

>>2072573
>if you can afford them

I want the bourgeois to leave

Neat.
Sometimes I find the tools more fascinating than what people can do with them.

>>2072573
>artists
>afford

>>2072593
That's because you're not an artist.

>>2072562
>Paying this much for pigmentation that is simply easier to apply smoother and more evenly.
No thank you.

>>2072562
>these sketchbooks will give you very clean lines

I never understand the appeal of copic markers.

>>2072653
b-but anon they will make you draw so much better. You better buy all these brand-name tools.

>>2072653
They're nice to work with and they've got a shitton of colours, or so I'm told.

Not like I can buy them.

>>2072653
It's pretty good if you want to put some tones over your sketches in a go. You only need a couple of them.

For architecture and design students, it's pretty forced on them to use.

>>2072653
>copic markers
>brand security, don't have to worry about them going out of business and leaving you with an ass load of markers you can't buy ink for
>extensive color range
>refillable means much cheaper in the long run if you actually use them everyday to create shit
>the boner you get when you pick up a dried out set of markers on the cheap because some pleb bought them before learning how to draw

Markers are for fags.

>>2072710
I don't really get the point of watercolors. You have to be an amazing artist just to make them not look like shit.

>>2072716
But when they are done right they look fucking amazing.

>>2072716
>You have to be an amazing artist just to make them not look like shit.

why would you want to be mediocre?

>>2072727

That's just absurd. Fucking sargent man. I swear, what the fuck. Jesus motherfucking christ.

>>2072716
The same is true for markers. I think watercolors are actually easier, more versatile, and cheeper, though.

Somebody bought me the copic airbrush attachment, but I have never used it. Anybody have any experience with it?

Also, fuck me, I've never even opened my colorless blender... Looks like you can do some cool shit with it

>>2072710 This guy knows what's up.

Just buy a decent set of watercolors and there you go. The color vibrancy of a thousand copics in a tiny box.

>>2072862
Is that a homemade set? And if not where can I get it?

>>2072716
because you sucks

>>2072897
just reverse-search the image, bruh.

>>2072908
Figured it was your picture and not a promotional one.

Thanks man.

>>2072897
>>2072908
I've got something super similar
It's homemade
Get an altoids tin or something and stick watercolour pans in it. You don't have to glue them, I just used bluetac and it works fine
Altoids tins have the lid connected to the base and the lid makes a good palette because it's smooth and plain.
Some altoids tins have an embossed logo on the lid and that's not good for paletting. I don't know if any of them have disconnected lids go have a look around

>>2072928
Vilppu does this shit too with an even smaller tin so it's guaranteed to make you a pro artist

>>2072931
Casual, I keep my watercolors in a tic-tac box.

>>2072935
>tic tac box
kek nice try kiddo

>>2072928
nigga how are you going to paint with a pencil?

>>2072951
the tip is ultra-compressed water, so you dip it into the paint, and when you draw it re-expands and you get an airbrush-type effect.

dvd

>>2073013
th-that was a joke, right anon? that's... that's not really a thing?

I'm not bright, don't be mean to me

>>2072949
>medium sized intous 5

>>2073054
>he doesnt own a pencil with a ultra-compressed water tip
damn dude you are missing out

>>2072928
where to buy the individual blocks of watercolor?

holy shit i NEED this

been using tempra but wowwww

Such amazing colors.

>>2073095

They're called watercolor pans.

$500 cintiq when?

>>2073207
get a yiynova for 500 i have one and it works just as good

>>2073095
You can probably buy them online pretty cheap, look for watercolour pans
Another thing you can do if you want is buy an empty pan or just find something small roughly the size you're looking for and put tube watercolour paint in
It dries and becomes a usable pan

>>2073070
>still not sure if ploy
I want to believe. What's it called?

>>2073565
Lol chill man it's just a fucking regular pencil I put there for size comparison
I do have a waterbrush though which is pretty much what the guy was talking about
>pic related

>>2073567
It's just not the same....

>>2073567
looks a bit like my box, just different (better imho) paint.

..if those are the same paints i have in that shaped pan.

>>2073567
where the fuck is the ultra compressed water tip

>>2073685
The brush has a water container in the handle and by squeezing it water comes through the brush
So you can paint without needing a jar of water

>>2073688
gay

i want my ULTRA COMPRESSED WATER PENCIL

https://youtu.be/pn6MOXq9CBQ

>>2072928
>>2073095
>>2073537
Or you could just buy a premade Winsor & Newton pocket set.
http://www.amazon.com/Cotman-Water-Colour-Sketchers-Poket/dp/B00004THXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430714819&sr=8-1&keywords=winsor+newton+watercolor+set
Cheap and some decent quality pigments.
It's cheaper than buying a metal/altoids tin, half pan containers and actual half pan paints.
And it's got actual mixing wells rather than just one big space like the altoids tins.

>>2075139
And not to mention with a metal tin you'd also have to spray paint the mixing area with white enamel to get a proper base for mixing paints since the metal colour will mix with your perception of the actual paint colours mixed and will look different when you put it on paper.

>>2075143
*will mess with

>>2073095
tempera= watercolor

>>2075235
Tempera = opaque watercolor, gouache.
Imo for a beginner:
Gouache > watercolor tubes > watercolor pans.

>>2075346
>Tempera = opaque watercolor, gouache.
What?
>Tempera, also known as egg tempera, is a permanent, fast-drying painting medium consisting of colored pigment mixed with a water-soluble binder medium (usually a glutinous material such as egg yolk or some other size).

>Gouache[p](/ɡuːˈæʃ/; French: [ˈɡwaʃ]), also spelled guache, is a type of paint consisting of pigment, a binding agent (usually gum arabic), and sometimes added inert material, designed to be used in an opaque method. It also refers to paintings that use this opaque method. The name derives from the Italian guazzo.
Where are you getting this?

>>2076637
I've been playing around with watercolors lately, and I've been looking for opaque or semi-opaque colors that you can use with a waterbrush. Could tempera or gouache be used in that way?

>>2076966
Gouache is basically opaque watercolor, so you can use it pretty much the same way you'd use watercolor. Tempera is waterbased, but becomes insoluble after it dries, IIRC.

>>2076637
There are two types of tempera. The kind he's referring to has the name 'tempera' because it uses some kind of natural protein based binder.

However, the painting properties of 'tempera' are much like gouache: chalky, opaque, and water soluble. Unlike gouache, once water is added, and it dries, it becomes somewhat insoluble, though not as much as acrylics or egg tempera, say.

They are usually very cheap and designed to be used by kids.

>>2077354
If you're going to use gouache, try acrylic gouache, it's easier to work with.

>>2072562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySpCpFFPw_o

>>2077482
gouache is evil for first time users, holy shit

>2015
>still using traditional

>>2072562
thanks for the copic video, was very helpful

>>2081097
>digital art
>"art"

>>2081199
>Traditional art
>"Traditional"
>Its not traditional unless its scratched with a stone / painted with the blood of an animal, on a cave wall
Took the bait and replaced it since im nice

>>2072562

I want a case like that Faber one for my markers and paint bottles.

>>2072599
Luckily some of us didn't throw everything away to pursue art. Some of us actually make a decent living of about 100k p.a.