/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Since the other thread is dying.

Looking for some input on the pose of this and some help on figuring out the values. I haven't done much painting, let alone metallics

>>2065401
Whoops. Forgot pic

this drawing was about an hour. i think i learned a lot from this that i can take over into painting about capturing likeness and being messy. messy works sometimes.

>>2065402
he still looks like he's about to fall on his ass
his center of balance is off and it doesn't look like his legs are supporting his body.
maybe you should just draw him sitting on a stump or something, that's what it looks like he's doing anyway

Trying my hand at design any good?

>>2065436
What's it for?

>>2065436
What do you know about design?

>>2065402
Is he getting ready to fight something or like, walking very carefully through the woods...? What's he doing?

>>2065449
A Desktop background.
>>2065436
C.R.A.P.
That's about it.

>>2065451
>>2065455
This comment was meant for the above one. I don't know why I quoted myself.

>>2065452
Getting ready to fight, though it's not all that well shown is it? I could use a better background but I don't know what to draw.
>>2065418
I noticed that before posting. I was hoping I could get some advice on fixing that without restarting, as this has to be done for tomorrow. Any suggestions?

>>2065526
Looks good man. Is he supposed to looked bored though? I think it's kind of cool that you've got this whole border and spotlight on this dude, and he's just like "meh".

I decided to screw with his legs some more, does this help at all? I don't want to get into the ledge unless it's working. Also changed the background up, as the previous one's trees were shitty and made the character huge by comparison

Latest portrait.

>>2065531
Damn Adobe Draw is weird. Cropped, with a slight adjustment to the trees.

>>2065531
He's kinda got some odd proportions. I feel like you are getting ahead of yourself. You want to get to the awesome armor before you figure out anything else. Take into perspective what he looks like underneath. Draw him first as a nude buff dude and work out his proportions, then add the armor onto that. It doesnt have to be anything refined. Just an accurate, thought out take of the human body. Also remember that anything in a scene sits in some sort of perspective to its surroundings.

creature thing
1h 40min

kept working on it.

>>2065526
The gap between the mouth and end of the nose/nostrils is too far. Shorten the height of the whatever is in the middle.

>space...guy2
The very shaped eyebrows, eyelashes, and noticeable hue on the lips make him look like a female character.

>>2065544

+ you learned your lesson with the teeth and the face looks okayish (for you). I don't know if nochin is on purpose or not.
- the giant uni-boob with implied nipples pointing sideways isn't very appealing
- shoulders are bad, her right wirst looks lost in the nth dimension
- hips, legs and skirt are painful to look at

>>2065546
>face looks okayish (for you)

What's with the pointless jab? To your point
those are folds, not nipples. Could you elaborate on what's wrong with the shoulders?

>>2065550
Her right shoulder (left in image) looks thinner than the other side.

>>2065541
I'm no stranger to human anatomy. I've done pictures of naked buff dudes so many times that I'm afraid that my parent's will look at me funny if I let them see my sketchbook. However, this dude's proportions (specifically the shoulders and chest size compared to the head) are exagerated for effect. However, while redlining this to show that a human could correctly fit in there, I did notice that the left (our right) leg is definitely out of proportion, with the thigh being too long / shin being too short

>>2065571
Though there's still some errors in the redline. I did it with my finger after all

>>2065571
Arm's also too long

>>2065546
not the artist, but could you explain how to draw breasts in a tight shirt better? there's no way possible that the shirt material would fall inbetween the breasts, it would be stretched across the widest points.

>>2065574
Not the guy your asking but its pretty simple, for a tighter shirt the breast will be pushed together more, for loose clothing they would move more freely unless a bra is worn. I can try and put something quick together.sorry if my explanation sucks, Im not much of a teacher.

>>2065545

Thanks, the drawing kinda started out as an androgynous guy and I never tweaked it.

>>2065579
I liked the lips before. It gave your character a more bored/sadness feel, now it's more of a face fed up with stupidity, but what do I know?

>>2065570
thanks

>>2065574
I was going to put up a quick thing for breasts but mobiles not letting me upload,sorry.

>>2065579
The top half of the head looks as if it's tilted towards us while the bottom half looks like a perfect side on view.

Did you sketch the whole head out before adding the helmet? If not try drawing a quick head in profile over your drawing to see what's off.

>>2065385

Not as happy with the accuracy but I am glad it reads

>>2065696
way to butcher the feet

>>2065697
Yeah, I definitely need to devote more time to those
it's okay, he doesn't need them, he's flying

>>2065696
I feel like you're trying to put in firm edges and then soften or harden them later after the initial block-in when you should be putting in the right edges as you go.

Painted this in less than 2 hours, opinions?

I'm going to do one for each color of magic.

>>2065714
>Painted this in less than 2 hours, opinions?
are you trying to start a fight?
oo, look at me i painted this piece of shit in less than 2 hours.

>>2065716

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfEhzadqn74

I was trying to paint like in this video

>>2065716
Hahahaha

Experimenting with ink. Attempting facial structure.

>>2065714
Your light sources aren't really working. Is this a study? If not you should it keep it lighted simply and focus more on form.

>>2065713
Guilty as charged
I guess I should block out the values before putting them down, definitely going to give that a shot next time
Thanks anon!

>>2065544
>>2065272
Sorry for paint, but it is the only thing I have to work with right now.
Good that you fixed the light on the top lip, before she looked like she had a moustache, but the thickness of her lips is still too much, makes them look swollen with an infection.

>>2065304
These are really good, only some minor proportional mistakes, making one side wide of the other and the thousand yard stare.

Paint prevents me from making it look good, but it should still be good enough to get the idea.

>>2065724
if that was x-files fan art it'd be perfect

HxH fanart with Copics.

>>2065804
Damn that's good

fanart that's still very heavily a WIP... I'm a little afraid it's a lot darker and saturated on other screens? Shit sucks. I'm very thankful for any and all comments, I'm frustrated with everything I do. I don't understand composition most of all.

fanart that's still very heavily a WIP... I'm a little afraid it's a lot darker and saturated on other screens? Shit sucks. I'm very thankful for any and all comments, I'm frustrated with everything I do. I don't understand composition most of all.

>>2065827
sorry about the huge file. here's a better one

>>2065829
fuker. Third times the charm

Done with this guy.

>>2065804

Your use of texture and edge control doesn't assist a focal point. Also I'm sure you can add another level of detail to areas such as certain leaves or part of the bottle weave.

But good job on keeping the texture out of the shadows, and solid drawing

>>2065894
yea, had a thought on that too. next time brah, thanks for advice.

antomies practises

Something I've been recently working on. I fixed the arm and the chest earlier today since it looked weird. I have trouble with wings though

>>2065885

post ref?

>>2065804
Nice

Came back to this what do you guys think?

>>2065916
no pelvis

>>2065916
Goddamn Sargent fucking genius master at everything

>>2065938

Don't have one

>>2065974
10/10

>>2065762
cool, thank you.

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>>2065987
Needs some Loomis.

>>2065987
damnnn

>>2065987
At first glance the thumbnail looked like a naked, pale, dirty man in a fetal position.

>>2065987
are those from life?

>>2065987

ref?

>>2066051
Look pretty dead to me.

Today I made this for practice, the original is the pixel one.

>>2066074
And the other day I drew this one.
These are the fourth and fifth drawings I do only with color, no lineart. I'm happy with the results

>>2065944
That's pretty cool, I like it

>that feel when you post your drawing and after a few hours there not even one reply

lesson learned, don't give a fuck about what other people have to say

>>2066087
It's probably better someone didn't say anything about it, if you know what I mean.

>>2066087

Eh i posted something in here as well and also got nothin' but that's a-okay, just gotta keep working and thinking critically yourself. Any crit I get is great but if not, then oh well.

>>2066087

When you're on /ic/ you're probably not going to get replies unless there's either obvious flaws that anyone can point out, or if your work is really fucking impressive.

>>2066092
great atmosphere!

>>2066092
looks meaty

>>2066092
Are you the iguana guy? It's a nice improvement if you are.

>>2066106

yeah, split the entire illustration and polished the rocks a bit

>>2066091
>>2066087

It's okay to insist, you know. Like bump your post and ask 'hey guys anyone wanna give feedback on this I'm really struggling with XX'

Nothing wrong with that. Some posts just get buried.

Azevedo painted this in under 2 hours.. how? Can someone explain the process in pic related so I can understand?

>>2066119

those fucking backgrounds, every time I try and paint a simple background for when I'm painting a character or something they end up looking like shit and flattening the image, what is the key to a good simple background for artworks like that one? How can you give the sensation of "air"?

>>2066119
There's nothing special happening there. He's basically just doing the following:
-loose lines on a toned background
-local colours
-indication of light and shadow
-knocks in darkest darks (occlusion stuff mostly since local values are there already)
-detailing focal point (face)
-works whole canvas more to unify things, adds in more details like the triangle thing on the ground and whatnot
-further works the whole, boosts saturation and values and such on entire image, probably using a large airbrush and different layer blending modes.

>>2066123

thankks, I will now try and follow those steps

My eyes cant see major mistakes, a little help?

>>2066129


How is the one on the right even sitting like that? Figures need balance in order to be convincing. Try sitting like that yourself and see that you can't without awkwardly falling over and hurting yourself.

>>2066145
>Try sitting like that yourself and see that you can't without awkwardly falling over and hurting yourself.
Nobody would sit like that, but any person with properly functional abs can hold that position without falling over or hurting themselves. Sounds like you need some physical exercise.

>>2065532
That is very nice.

>>2066145
Just tried the pose myself, very doable. Get some exercise you fatty.

>>2065923
I don't understand what these have to do with MtG or the mana colors.

>>2065987
Fish are more flat then they're round. You can get the form to read better if you emphasize the symmetry and draw the line that cuts the fish in half on its belly.

Just as a joke hehe

>>2066129
Does right one have something under her hands that she is leaning on? Looks a bit awkward without anything, but
the position is understandable if she is trying to get away from the left one. also the direction the left one is looking at
is kinda strange since it kinda looks like she is staring past the right one.

Man, feet are a pain in the ass.

>>2066194
Apparently necks too.

>>2066082
You're missing the saturated oranges along the edges of the lit window shape on the floor.

>>2066183
>the position is understandable if she is trying to get away from the left one
yep, thats right, also her arms are tied which implies she's captive
> also the direction the left one is looking at
is kinda strange
I tried to point her eye to right one's breasts

>>2066122
Could be a few problems, but mostly using believable values and using the correct edges. You should treat the background as an ambient light source. This means that if your background is red, you should have diffuse red light illuminating your forms. If you have other stronger light sources, then the reds will mostly be present in the shadows and not the lights.

Think of it like painting an outdoor scene. An object in the shade is light mostly by ambient blue skylight (ignoring other bouncelight sources). Get rid of the shade and now you have the sun acting as a strong primary light source, and the blues are really only visible in the shadows (ignoring specular reflections). Most surfaces have some level of specular and diffuse reflections, so you should get blue specular highlights even in the light in a scenario like I mentioned.

>>2066223
I looked at it and the direction is right but there is still something slightly "off" about it. maybe its that its a perfect
profile view, maybe try turning it a bit to the left and it might look and feel more natural.

>>2066122
>>2066228
And here's an exercise so that you can observe this effect better:

Get a large box, and remove the top and front face. Line with with a black cloth, place a simple object inside, and light it up with a lamp. Try to have no other light sources in your nearby environment. Paint that object.

Now replace the black cloth with a bright red one, but keep everything else the same. Paint the object again. Next replace it with white cloth and paint again. You can go through a few more times with different colored cloths and still have similar results.

If you know 3D software (blender works), you can try this same experiment digitally. Just change the colors of the walls of the box, and save the resulting rendered image. You technically don't even need to build the box, as you can adjust the global illumination color (the color of the default background) to anything you want and it should affect the lighting and colors of your object.

I made an example in the past in pic related. The first frame has a single light source, a black ground and a black environment. All the rest have a gray environment, which introduces some light as seen in frame 2. The other frames only have the ground color changing. For your purposes, you want to consider the simple background you paint as the environment, but be mindful of your ground plane too if you're implying one.

>>2066245
Oh, and I should add that all the surfaces in the gif are diffuse. If there's some specularity then everything will be a bit different and more complex, but this should give you a good baseline.

>>2066211
>Necks don't bend.

>>2066246
>>2066245
>>2066228

Thanks anon! nice gif too

>>2066129

>My eyes cant see major mistakes

Let's see:

Composition is shit, the two figures are not in harmony

Boob from the left person kills the gesture

Awkward position

Small feet

Everything looks too 2D, use perspective

DA tier taste in art

Practicing applying my old fur style to my new soft blending style.

Also would be one of my first completed human pics. Can't wait until i'm more confident anatomy-wise so I can draw people all the time.

Crits pls?

>>2065920
I think she would look better with a thinner face and a broader range of values

>>2066034
Thanks

>>2066043
I can see that, nice catch

>>2066051
>>2066053

This is a Goya's study. It is my 2nd acrylics piece.

The reference I'm using is a 7MB file so 4chan doesn't let me upload it, go to this link instead:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Francisco_de_Goya_-_Still_Life_with_Golden_Bream_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg

>>2066057
>>2066008

kek

>>2066163
Thanks I will attempt to do that

>>2066158
hes trying to grab attention by completing these turds in under 2 hours

>>2065885
flaat

>>2066119
dont like how this guy paints

>>2066158
I'm going to assume he's trying to put a design restriction on himself by going with a certain card type. He's just using a cool color scheme to go with water. Not much else to say about the character.

>>2066275
>hes trying to grab attention by completing these turds in under 2 hours
This guy is just mad because his work is shit.

Update

>>2066308
that is one cannibalistic child

CC is welcome

>>2066308
i like how his pet friend is coming along, but unless the boy is on a hill his foot seems angled too far down

>>2065714
looks nice, I bet you like mike azevedo.

i didnt get any feedback in the last thread so im trying again here

finished piece

>>2066336
How did u color this?
Markers + colored pencil?
Is this a scan?
What kind of paper did you use?

Personally, I've never had any luck with CP + markers on copy paper, but I hear that they work will with paper that has more bite, like canson.

The colors look a little flat, if you have the markers try to vary the hues a bit for shadows, or just photoshop it.

But looks pretty good, always like seeing traditional stuff

>>2066407
I've got some caran d'ache colour pencils and some copic markers which i used to try and get some shadows in

It's a scan

It's 135gsm, A5 paper according to the notebook cover, and feels a little rough.

Colouring is always hit and miss for me and leans towards the latter. Here's the line art.

Done, moving on.

r8 my penguin
Gray toned paper is so much nicer to draw on than regular, oh my lord.

>>2066462
Sorry about the file size.

>>2066497
for the love of god, stop posting.

>>2066466
>>2066467
No heads, no/monstrous hands, abstract background, B/W, random scribbles all over the place, yeah, I give you an AJ/10. How does it feel to be top of the industry?

>>2066498
ok

>>2066443
some of the edges are abit too sharp IMO.
like, check the hands. they feel very cut out to me.
they come forward too much. apart from that. nice colours.

>>2066498
18 year old detected.
>>2066497
keep it up mane

>>2066505
dont listen to him what the fuck

>>2066498
dickhead

>>2066510
18 is being pretty generous

Ah, hadn't notice the hands, will watch for that in the next piece.

>>2066399
im assuming the top one of those chocolate bar looking things is intended to look like its turning? if not the perspective is kinda fucked. also i feel like the shadows on the very front of the horn things are too long, as they should be facing the sun at that point, making the shadows short/nonexistent. also what are clouds.

>>2066513
what can i say, im a nice guy.

>>2066466
>>2066467
pretty cool man
I would say to try to keep the light source/direction of light source more consistent and apply thinking of it to the whole image

small guy with smaller weapons

>>2066508
Reply from
>>2066515
What was the goal of your study if you don't mind me asking?

>>2066534
trying to draw heads (from refs) using no structure lines.
>going straight for the final line.

>>2066519
whats wrong with the clouds? i posted this a while ago when it wasnt as finished and someone said something them there. do they look like shit or something? good catch on the shadows, didnt notice that before. im not sure what i want to do with the block, i kind of like it the way it is but it wasnt intential

>>2066523
ugly

more studys. might take the pistol guy further.

>>2066569
When hatching, try to give the direction of your lines and how they fit together a bit more thought. It's ok to take things slow, confident hatching can pay off big in the end. Check out Toppi's work if you haven't seen him before. https://www.google.com/search?q=toppi&biw=1829&bih=857&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=enU8Ve7qBc-xogTD94DACQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&dpr=1#imgrc=w5HBU3wuDgVx6M%253A%3BHzj2zelMJMYlfM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252F40.media.tumblr.com%252Fc66975bf60c1bd8425a374cc0d86e32a%252Ftumblr_mwy70bMS1t1t0ov3xo3_1280.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Finrbg.tumblr.com%252Fpost%252F68314238101%252Fsergio-toppi-a%3B684%3B1028

Here's the result of some experimenting and good advice from friends.

>>2066579
4/10

>>2066618
I'll take it!

>>2066579
i see what you mean. thanks.

I know the right foot (our left) is screwy around the branch, but is this any better? Also would finitely like some critique on the metal. I'm new to it, and though I'm happy with the effect as it stands, I know it's probably shit compared to what I could do with the proper prompting.

>>2066638
keep going and play around

>>2066278

Can you specify?

>>2066655
arms, helm and feet

>>2065920
many symbols here

>>2066579
it feels completely like what zedig was doing last streams.

>>2066669
:DDDDDDD

That's actually exactly what I was thinking of when I started it. I began focusing more on apeing Mignola once I got further on but good eye dude.

>>2065686
Going to stop this one & study helmets/armor next week.

>>2066674
ahaha

>>2065389
WHO DOES THESE FUCKING THINGS?!?!?!?

FUCK.

>>2066681
your new is showing.

testing stuff out

>>2066714
i feel like a more consistent line directionality for your hatching would really sell the image.

also like the clouds

Frame by frame animation I made a few months ago, i know it doesn't look that great i don't draw much especially grills.

>>2062613
Continuing from last thread

How is it looking so far?

>>2066812

you need atleast 2 lightsources to make that image interesting. imo.

>>2066403
i really like it, but you should finish the water section, build it with some lighter values, and remember about the reflections. Keep what youre doing

>>2066814
yeah i know, didnt start doing under lighting from below yet but i surely will.

There's something seriously wrong with this, I just can't see what, please help.

Sorry about the shit vidya fan art, I'm trying to start drawing after years of artblock, this is the only way.

>>2066874
the legs are a little off- it looks like he's standing on tiptoes.

>>2066812
updato, taking a brake for now, gonna paint outdoors probably

>>2066874
everything is wrong. Shoulders don't move like that. Bad gesture, contraposto.

>>2066892
reminds me of starcraft 2
be creative I should say but if you could, you wouldn't be here.

>>2066742
can you get somewhere already

>>2066958
Thx for advice still learning this stuff

>>2066895
>contraposto
?

>>2066967
Pardon him, he should have linked to the wikipedia article since googleing is widely considered a very difficult skill to master.

>>2066892
I'm not too good, but I think you seem to be tempted by pillow shading, instead of thinking about the light. The arm or the wing claws are basically separated in equal parts highlight/color/shadow. If the light is coming from above it shouldn't highlight the left wing's concave shape either.

>>2066969
thx for pointing it out, you are probably right

>>2066969
what is a pillow shading exactly? just curious

Shitty values but moderately successful.

>>2066992
Generally it refers to shading that follows more the outline of the object than the 3d form its describing. It can also refer to overly-soft airbrush shading.

Personally I don't think op was applying the term correctly in this case and should instead say "conflicting light sources.

>>2067017
moderately successful in what?
this is just plain garbage all the way

>>2067049

God you are annoying.

>>2067049
Hahahaha

>>2067017

The character appears to be staring at a wall, perhaps it would work better if there was a window or a painting or some other narrative device there.

>>2066892
I really like the colors and the upper body, but legs man, look at her legs, try to search some pic of goat legs, satirs or something if you want to finish her hoofs . . keep up the good work

>>2067049

Here's the finished version so you can insult me some more.

>>2067062

ayyyy, that's better, watch your perspective on those white canvases though, especially the bottom edges they still don't seem to be lining up.

From today, needs better rendering and perspective

>>2067065

nah you need better anatomy, your colours are nice, interesting composition and that logo compliments the image without being distracting but that hand totally ruins it, just get some reference for it because it's wrecking what would otherwise be a nice piece.

>>2067065
If it wasn't for the logo I would have stole that picture and use it as a wallpaper for my phone.

>>2067062
yah, you should just quit while you can

Why do I always find my concept art so lacking in detail compared to other work?

It kinda bugs me...

>>2067084
isnt it obvious? you dont know your fundamentals

>>2067069
Yeah, you're right. Shit I knew it was off but I was looking at it for too long to recognize it. Thanks a lot.

>>2067084
Also, sorry for the massive file size. I'm still working on it and wasn't aware of the dimensions.

But anyway, to show and example of what I mean.

>>2067063

Thanks, yeah good point. It's also a bit too dirty in parts.

>>2067077

Right.

>>2067085
That was a very helpful and insightful post detailing exactly what you meant.

Thank you very much.

>>2067084
Try to break up more your shapes into big, medium, small shapes

>>2067094
What do you mean exactly?

Are you referring to construction?

>>2066250
How is that in any way helpful, you name only problems but no solution. If you say things like the perspective is off, the person clearly doesn't understand perspective so telling them it's off doesn't really help

>>2067101
I agree man, this is why I hardly come to /ic/ and every time I'm reminded of why I avoid this place for legit critique.

A lot of untalented jealous little shits who do nothing but spout self-righteous bullshit and make people feel bad about their artwork.

I'm all for receiving critique, but it's awful when you come here only to have your work torn down, usually incorrectly, and with no accurate advice or solution toward improving.

As the saying goes... everyone is a critic.

I actually would like to know what forums I could join to receive decent critique. I'm thinking of perhaps migrating to cubebrush or something...

>>2067090
all the armor designs are so fucking cluttered its kinda hard to tell what is what.

All my portraits come out with this same sort of extremely-digital, not-quite-a-face look to them. I mean, this is only about two hours in and most of it was setup work but I can't get rid of this look. I think it may just be the fact that I've only ever drawn like 15 or 20 faces to completion but it bugs me. Eyes in particular are my weak spot, I can never get them to read correctly, the shape is always off somehow.

>>2067130
It's just the resolution is so low and its ajanky jpg that it's hard to see the finer detail, you need to get your eyes checked boy

>>2067130
hi.
what game would you say has good armor design?
i know is important to study real armor, im studying sumerian armor right now

>>2067130
Well, it's from Monster Hunter.

I'm mostly referring to the quality of the presentation. It looks much more professional than mine.

I mean, I'm referring to the ones on the right. Even with simple color work, the line is so detailed, it just looks really good.

Though I was thinkinh about what that anon said, and I think I know what he mean. I have the entire artbook for MH, and I was looking through it, and yeah, I draw too many large shapes when doing construction, but not enough middle-size and smaller ones.

>>2067137
so your way of thinking is let me upload the shittest resolution of my good work for people to understand what i mean, nice logic buddy.

>>2067136
Perfect gradients will do that. Trying using a textured brush, or something that will give you some more random nuances.

>>2067139
I would say it's very subjective, but I think it's more than just study the original sources.

Those are your inspiration, but not your references.

If you wanna go for something more over-the-top, like what I posted... well idk exactly, honestly I'm amazed at the level of work their artists can create. Really imaginative designs. Though I do know they work wit sillouettes a lot.

But as far as what "good design" is, it's very subjective. I personally like more over-the-top designs so long as they make sense. Others like more simplistic designs that are more akin to what you find irl.

I wouldn't trust some anon's opinion on /ic/ as to what's "good design" or not. A lot of people here don't even draw.

>>2067144
anon who posted it here...

That's not my work.

That's professional concept artwork for a videogame, you shitlord. Way to make yourself look stupid.

>>2067139
diablo 3
look at ruan jias work too

>>2067151
how is this my fault? the way you presented yourself made it seem like it was your work. my advice would be git gud with English before your career in design.

>>2067157
Not the poster.
It seemed pretty clear to me that those designs were examples of what that anon wants to do.
Stop being so buttmad. Accept the fact that you didn't understand what you read and move on.

>>2067157
hahahaha
you guys always make me laugh :3

>>2067157
Perhaps you should work a little more on your reading comprehension.

In my original post, I talk about how my work doesn't measure up to professional work, and in the post after, I apologize for the size of my drawing since I'm working on it, and then post an example of what I mean.

I fail to see how this wasn't obvious to anyone paying attention.

I suggest you get back to drawing instead of shit shitposting on /ic/ if you have nothing constructive to offer.

>>2067171
>Why do I always find my concept art so lacking in detail compared to other work?
compared to what work? make it clear next time you piece of shit

I am trying to learn how to draw with a tablet help please. Picture related is a drawing I made on my tablet.

>>2067210
Forgot picture... this is the drawing.

>>2067212
improve your technical skills before jumping into a tablet

stuff like
photoshop layer properties(blend modes)
making and using brushes
properties of brushes
all of this you can learn without a tablet

>>2067214
this is a good post.

However, is learning how to make, and having different brushes really all that useful?

The basic 6 are more than enough.

>>2067205
hahahaha

>>2067157
Bla bla bla just go study more loomis

>>2067214
I am watching some youtube tutorials on how to do those things. And reading some other stuff. Thank you for your post!

>>2067084
you are fronting everything to the viewer.
the knight guys arms are not relaxed, they are proped forward.
look at the left one (his right) , it really should be behind the belt bags and besides the hips.
but instead you have chosen to show off the arm armour.

fundamentals brother.

>>2067287
Alright, yeah, I see it. But all that can easily be fixed with a full frontal view if I so want to.

However, that doesn't fix the fact that it's not as visually impressive as what I posted for comparison.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I wanna up my presentation.

I understand that there are some minor mistakes in construction. I just haven't drawn in a while, but that's a problem that will fix itself from doing more live drawings with models. It just takes time.

However, when it comes to color and linework and the like for concept art, that's something that takes specific study.

I think the biggest thing is that by comparison, my lineart is just not as detailed and extensive, and I wanna correct that.

>>2065385
i'd like a quick crit please

I don't know what i'm doing, how is it?

>>2067340
>thumblr hair
>handsome face (or is it actually a man)
>dradondildo taste

>>2067340
>dat manface

Is it supposed to look like Miley Cyrus?

>>2067340
no idea about the gender

>>2067340

upper body looks like that of a male, buttocks are too much like bubbles

Just a sketch artist and new here. Maybe this belongs?

>>2067360
>>2067352
>>2067348
thanks, the manface is what I was aiming for it's supposed to look like Bjorns gf

>>2067340
>removed the image.
why?

>>2067205
Fucking retard

>>2067346
fundamentals.

>>2067362
I was tryna make her muscular and have a joocy ass at the same time

>>2067365
lol naw but seriously it's supposed to be a slutty Danaerys, might just use her face

>>2067346
The amount of thought put into accurately describing the planes in value and the shadows is awesome, great job on that. It's far from perfect but you are definitely on your way.

Theres some serious readability issues in the lower third of the painting though, can barely make out the dude. Control your contrast better in that area.

>>2067368
Got the crit I needed

>>2067340
Good start man. You need to realize that the right plane of her face is extremely stretched and we're seeing too much of the right side of her face and the back her head, same goes for the right arm/lats/trap. Her neck is a little twisted as well. I don't think she looks like a man at all i don't understand the criticism regarding that.

>>2067301
lots of excuses you have there anon.
the construction and fundamentals in your work are lacking and only more drawing/failing will correct that.
as far as line strength.
your line weight and steadyness need lots of attention.

the image has a very ambiguous feel to it when adressing the overall gravity and aplication of weight. the feet are on two different planes.
the figure is literally leaning back whilst still standing up-right. as if he has just compleated an air thrust with his pelvis, but whilst still having both arms from their sockets being infront of the torso.

the hands.
i think you know what has to happen there.

try to go for lines in one stroke.
you are prawing. not painting. the background is white, so you should not be playing a game of small strokes to render a finished edge.

one edge = one stroke.
turn up your stabilizer if you must.

you are being quite reserved with your colours aswell. try to draw onto a grey background and then block the image in with a darker grey , then asses it and work back in highlights.

>gif related, its how working from grey scale can help with geting colour values down a little easyer. its still a noob tactic but if helps.

>>2067378
Thanks bruh

> You need to realize that the right plane of her face is extremely stretched and we're seeing too much of the right side of her face and the back her head

shit I actually did realise this earlier and thought I fixed it, but it's still fucked

> same goes for the right arm/lats/trap
She's supposed to be twisting her torso a bit to show off her joocy back but then yea.....she wouldn't be able to look back that much then

As for the face I was just tryna make her face a bit angular but I did give her a big jaw and chin haha

hmm gonna have to repaint a lotta shit

>>2067377
>not adding to the community.
>taking what you want and leaving.
>not paving the way for the young ones.

you are the cancer.

>>2067371
>>2067374
Thanks.

I can see that perspective is a bit fucked on it's body but it's a one layer painting so it's no so easy to just redraw, i'll try to liquify my way out of this and to make the dudde more contrast somehow.

Maybe I'll DoF the far trash for more feeling of volume. I normally hate DoF but everyone seems to like it.

>>2067389
Thanks very much for your input.

I find it that I have MUCH more trouble keeping a stable line when drawing in digital than in traditional. What exactly is the stabilizer?

What I used to do was make all lineart in traditional, and just scan it, however, since that takes too long, and I wanna improve is my digital I've opted for doing lineart on the Bamboo.

I'm looking into getting a Cintiq soon, but in the meantime, if there are other options it'd be great.

As for everything else you've adressed, yeah, I make no excuses. It seems I've regressed a little since I've had not much time to draw nor do studies.

As for the colors. Is that technique ideal for concept art? Most of what I've seen has little to no value to it.

>>2067395
How will me leaving my wip on the thread benefit anyone apart from dickheads who wanna shit on it?

also
>implying I dont crit others

>>2067225
2/10

>>2067401
Stabilizer is a utility in Paint Tool Sai which I assume you are not using.

>>2065714
>>2065923

Here's the third one, it was supposed to be Swamp but that anon was right, it has nothing to do with MtG anymore.

I'll do green and red tomorrow.

>>2067408
No I'm not. I'm guessing that if I google it I'll find it rather quickly then.

Thanks for that.

>>2067408
Alright, so I'm assuming this is another program like Painter and Photoshop.

Any benefits to it aside from the stabilizer?

>>2067426
Photoshop doesn't have a stabilizer

>>2067406
>what is content.
adding content to the thread and leaving it there is always healthy for the thread. it also allows other anons to see the progress between updates to better critt you.

and if you are afraid anons will shit on it, did it ever occur to you that maybe your work was worth shitting on.

>>2067406
upload it again.

>>2067447
And painter?

I have that too.

>>2067452
Well, either that, or it's just anons shitposting.

For a lot of art posted here, we have our fair share of that.

>>2067457

Plus /ic/ is comically obsessed with anatomy and perspective so if you're looking doe critique other than that you're shit out of luck 95% of the time.

>>2067458
Oh man, THIS so much.

I think it just goes to show the vast amount of inknowledgable amateurs here.

They believe anatomy and perspective are the end-all and be-all to art, yet hardly take, proportion, composition, color, and all of the other fundamentals into account.

Anatomy and perspective are always the first steps anyone ever takes when venturing into art education. So it just lends credence how little most people know here.

They can only talk the talk, but hardly really ever offer anything more useful than a couple redlines.

Hell, anatomy isn't even as useful as proportion when it comes to character design. Yet, /ic/ is so narrowminded when it comes to this, they don't even realize how limited their views are.

>>2067452
>did it ever occur to you that maybe your work was worth shitting on.

If someone is actually trying to improve and it's not sonic porn tier shit then how the fuck is anything WORTH shitting on? Fuck off

>>2067453
aite, didn't think it was a big deal that I deleted it

well this is before and after, I'm done, don't like it, anatomys broken and look I didn't draw the hands lol

>>2067378
tried moving her left shoulder up and make the back of her head smaller but it's too late

I haven't practiced in 2 weeks

>>2067497
is Miley Cyrus going too far?

>>2067507
Kek

>>2067507
>implying miley has a plump ass

>>2067465
Agreed. It was some advice on something specific in the past and some fucking parrots went nuts on it, and amateurs who don't know any better went along with it (i doubt they even study either though). At least when they would parrot "learn the fundamentals!" they were closer to being right...

>>2067497
better stuff than that guy who posts ms paint artwork

>>2067554
shouldn't this be uploaded to stylization thread?

>>2067566
My bad

>>2067566
Take a look at almost any post in this thread and tell me it's not stylized.

>>2067570
then what does this exist for

>>2067609

This is just a general drawtheead that aren't fundamental exercises done by complete beginners. The stylization thread was created because you had a bunch of shitstorms and derailing over anime stylized shit.

>>2065416
You always post and never listen to /ic/'s feedback

>>2067611
pretty valid point that i can agree on

making a cover for my sketchbook.
I have worked on it more since this picture was taken but too lazy to take recent pic because its in the car.

>>2067641
shit sorry forgot to resize

A few faces I've done over the last couple days. CC much appreciated.

how do i lineweight /ic/?

...also sorry if this probably doesn't belong here. i remember there is a comic book thread for this sort of stuffs but it died

>>2065793
mmm I like this a lot, but gon loses his essential youthfulness with his eyes so far apart.

>>2067644
that flat eye tho

FUCK THIS FUCKLING RETARDED BULLSHIT FUCKING SHIT ASS CUNT LICKER BULLSHIT CAPTCHA

GOOGLE TAKE THESES FUCKING SIGNS AND SHOVE THEM UP YOUR ASS

just on pure random i picked the right fucking signs to verfy i'm not a robot. just to post the fucking figure painting that doesn't get replys anyways and noone gonna reply to my thrid time asking what besides figure drawings and studys of anatomy i can do to learn anatomy

>>2067657
let those jimmies rustle silently

>>2067669

>>2067678
probably not the best place to drop reaction images.

>>2066523
some more

>>2067737
The top part's fucking awesome, I'm getting so many Shadow of the Colossus vibes from it
The bottom part could use some work, maybe extend the canvas downwards a bit. The tail betrays the gesture of the torso.

>>2067678
>>2067708
yeah, fuck of with your reaction images, this is an image board, where do you think you are?
you scoundrel ! dirty peasent

>>2067757
i mean its a draw thread.

Been working on this today, I don't like how empty the cave is but I don't know what to add to it, any tips?

>>2067778
more details on the water, leaves, and where the light is shining down from, I suppose :3

>>2067646
To get into it I'd suggest doing thick outlines around the silhouette that taper into lines that are inside of the form.

Looking to improve on my low artistic ability, can I get some constructive criticism on this sketch I've been working on?

>>2067778
Look up references of caves, rain forrests, mountain foliage, etc. Also check out some of the concept art for the Prime games, and possibly even in-game screenshots to get some ideas.

Go over the top with understanding the details of what might appear in these environments, then use your design sense to make it look good.

>>2065385
I don't even man
It looked kinda good when it was monochrome, but now that I tried to add color... The only blending mode that does not mess with the values seems to be "color", but its really hard to make it look good with that. It looks flat as fuck.

What other methods can I use to go from monochrome to color?

>>2067886
eh

>>2067418
Gotta say i like the fact that you pop these out in around 2 hours, personally i dont get much further then a couple of sketches or some half finished piece of shit.

The paintings have a good atmosphere and i like the rawness, you are good on your way to capturing the technique. Keep it up bro would like to see what you pop out next

is this composition ok?

>>2068012
There is no background and the forground is boring. The rock on the middleground should be more to the right

>>2067912
I think I got the colors down now.
Also now its a photo on a table so I can get away with the epic filter maymay.

>>2068012
same guy, how about this?

New thread:
>>2068168
>>2068168

>>2067790
Looks p good dylon

How to continue?

>>2065544
upper mouth looks weird, the rest is nice for that style in my opinion

>>2070650

>>2070652

>>2066403
Tinkered with it. Just mirrored the whole image and set it to screen layer