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Let me elaborate. I was talking to this some friends at a lunch today when we talk about steven universe. A girl whom I don't very well that she though is was bad simply due to its simplistic art style saying that she could do better. My buddy and I
argued for her standard inwhich she said japanese animation/anime. We argued that the demographics are completely different as is budgets time and marketing. Should standards have boundaries?

>> No.2053039

Not everything needs to be detailed. A simplistic style is sometimes better for the job than a detailed one.

Basically, her argument is 'it's bad because I don't personally like it.'

>> No.2053040

If the standard is "not anime", there's nothing to discuss. Let them have their bias.

>> No.2053055

Youve also got to consider the storytelling aspect. SU does this pretty well, and there are plenty of animes that cant do it for shit. Also this chick sounds like weeaboo trash. theres no reasoning with her.

>> No.2053059

SU has actual animation in it, while most anime is still frames with moving mouthes and sliding layers.

>> No.2053069

>>2053059
...and even the mouth animations are shit.

>> No.2053082

>>2053027
>steven universe
I'm old and out of touch with what the new kids are watching so I gotta ask - WHAT THE FUCK IS STEVEN UNIVERSE???

I see it mother fucking everywhere, is it like Powerpuff girls? Dexters lab? Sponge bob? Space ghost? Johnny Bravo? Why is it so popular? Should I watch it? Am I missing out on something amazing?

Point of reference I really liked PPG

>> No.2053088

>>2053082
it's tumblr/sonic the show.

>> No.2053096

>>2053082
Everyone really liked ppg

>> No.2053104

>>2053082
No. Those old shows weren't liberal gay kike propaganda targeting your babby like Steven Universe is. They were charming and irreverent cartoons, Dexter's lab among my favorites of all time. Steven Universe is LGBTBBQ degeneracy through and through..

>> No.2053112

>>2053104
>>2053096
>>2053088
Sounds like I'm not missing out on much. Wake me up when there are good cartoons to watch

>> No.2053114

>>2053112
A good cartoon to watch:
Akira the movie

>> No.2053120

>>2053027
the best cartoon ever was ahhh! real monsters. this is a fact.

>> No.2053122

>>2053027
she's a dumbass. simplistic can be good, in fact better than needless details. in this case, the show used to be different in art style, but got simplified for ease of animation.
people still complain about it, actually.

it's odd she chose that show to complain about, if she's a weeb, since it's pretty clearly inspired by anime especially in colour palette


>>2053082
it;s a western magical girl show, basically. steven is the kid of a magical woman, who died having him, and he is raised by his mother's friends.

it starts out goofy then is revealed to have some deep shit in it, like adventure time. it's mostly structured more floaty and piecemeal, like miyazaki's stuff, for better or worse

lots of 4chan members complain about it, since it has fat characters, lots of female characters, gay themes, etc.

>> No.2053124

>>2053120
I hated that show

>> No.2053126

>>2053124
typical /ic/, did you hate harry potter too? they're basically the same thing.

>> No.2053128

>>2053027
>due to its simplistic art style saying that she could do better.

let's break this down

>simplistic style

simplicity is paramount for animation. especially for a tv show where budget and time is limited

>she could do better

i doubt this because she sounds arrogant. even if she could draw better she probably can't animate. or have the skills to design characters

i'm an animation student and i haven't met a single person (maybe one but we've never discussed SU) who's been so high and mighty

you should either try to educate her and if she's not receptive then just cut her out of your life people like that only drag others down

>> No.2053130

>>2053126
No and they Aren't the same thing

>> No.2053132

>>2053082


it's a good show. I advise you to just watch it and base your own opinion on it. most people are hating on it simply because it's popular and others won't shut the fuck up about it (as with everything that ends up popular)

I found the first 25 episodes to be mediocre but later on got hooked.

>> No.2053135

>>2053130
yes they are.
oblina = hermione
ickis = harry
krum = ron

just one is monsters and the other is wizards, literally the only difference.

>> No.2053173

>>2053132
>first 25 episodes
>mediocre

So it's literally Adventure Time.

I'm tired of these American cartoons now with an identity crisis and have no idea what they want to be. "LOL SO RANDOM XD" into "So deep! Take us seriously!" is the dumbest shit for story telling and comes off as bipolar than actually engaging. It's the reason why Adventure Time bored me to piss.

If the first 25 eps are crap, why would I bother watching?

>> No.2053183

>>2053122
>starts out goofy then is revealed to have some deep shit in it, like adventure time.
I guess what I liked about PPG and dexters lab was the lack of deepshit and the random references. Fav episode was when dexter thought he was going to die and then he farts and blows the TV through the wall. Or when the PPG get the giant PPG mech.

I also liked tiny toon adventures and animaniacs, the cartoons are trying too hard these days.

>>2053132
>first 25 episodes to be mediocre
oiiii that's a tough pill to swallow.

>> No.2053186

>>2053082

Steven Universe doesn't compare to any of the cartoons you mentioned. It's shit. It's a show made for ADHD kids that expects you to take it seriously, just like Adventure Time. Regular Show is better than both.

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>>2053183
>random references
there's plenty of references in SU, a lot of anime though. there's even a damn reference to this statue.

And as for the deepshit, most of it is in-fanbase speculation. it's there in the show but you can pretty much overlook it. random shit like animate watermelon children fighting each other are a big part of the show, but it's all plot relevant.

>> No.2053192

>>2053183


it's still for the most part a goofy cartoon, just give it a go it's only 10 mins per episode

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>>2053027
Steven Universe drags into that zone of animation where story is the supporting pillar of the structure.
When it comes to the art departments, it looks not over simplified, and kiddy for the most part. I am moreover interested in the backgrounds and the surrounding areas of the series rather than pandering to the animations.
I did a test on trying to recreate the backdrop during sundown, worked out really well, but I doubt I'd nail the figures and building structures on the first tries.
Back to the argument of having a standard and your friend is mentioning anime as a right measurement stick, is absurdly bullshit.
Yes. Animes with a good budget keeps the astetics afloat, but fails gradually in example story or animations (re-cuts, loops, still poses and camera shifting straight outta the book f.ex).
In short, Western cannot be judged out of anime. It's rather question of how well the expirience the journey throughout gave to one personally. I hate the endless references, but Gumball and Gravity Falls fault at that problem aswell.

>> No.2053258

Anime > dog shit > western "animation"

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2053349

That girl is right, but for the wrong reasons.
SU is liberal kike propaganda promoting dgeneration.

>> No.2053354

>>2053349
You're giving us all cancer with those buzzwords.

Stop that grandpa!

>> No.2053355

>>2053258
Someday you're gonna look back at your weeb phase and wish somebody had intervened sooner.

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2053360

>>2053355
Pic related

It's you

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>>2053349
>On 4chan
>Calls someone else out on degeneracy

I'm done

>> No.2053368

>>2053360
Beginner thread issued an amber alert. I'll let them know you've been found.

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>>2053354
Oy vey, have you removed your sexual reproductive organs and offered your asshole to niggers and muslims to de-oppress themselves yet? If not I must advice you to do so, or you'll be redirected to the corresponding authorities to be re-educated in the ways of tolerance and progress with our top notch educational materials, such as steven universe.

Seriously though, get fucked.

>> No.2053376

>>2053362
You need to browse beyond /b/ and /d/ faggot.

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2053381

>>2053375
GRANDPA NOOO

>> No.2053387
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>>2053381

>> No.2053400

>>2053387
>what is context

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>>2053387

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>>2053400
>What is reading comprehension.

>> No.2053412

>>2053027
Standards should not have boundaries, but must be clearly defined. It feels like your situation is less of an argument and more of a miscommunication.

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>>2053400
He meant that if the people in a society stop caring about further improving it (apathy) and allow bad things to happen without trying to stop it (tolerance) then the society will reach its downfall.

>> No.2053524

>>2053055
>and there are plenty of animes that cant do it for shit

Please name them. Not saying that all of them are good, but I was curious what you considered to be shit.

>> No.2053532

>>2053027
While I don't agree with her, I, myself don't like the style of many American works, including what Steven Universe ended up looking like. I find it pretty ugly, except for Garnet and Steven's friend. I can appreciate it as an artist, but if I wasn't an artist I wouldn't even bother. Though, I did try to watch it and I just didn't like it.

>> No.2053534

>>2053349
>literally being this mad 'cause you're single

>> No.2053536

>>2053524
Aldnoah.zero (god I want my life back)

>> No.2053585
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>>2053183
>the cartoons are trying too hard these days.
This... so much fucking this!!

i just watched cow and chicken recently and boy did that show some actual meaningless violence but it is entertainment in its purest.

i think cartoons today want to be taken seriosly so much that it takes the value out of them

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2053597

>>2053534
wow throwing "being single" remarks as an insult
its like you just found out about le memes on your tumblr feed and trying to look edgy instead of making some thoughtful arguments

>> No.2053603

different cultures have different standards and normalities

>> No.2053607

>>2053597
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iDAqyoOCrw

literally educate yourself before throwing around the T word

>> No.2053613

>>2053585
Clearly you haven't had good taste as a kid, otherwise you would have been familiar with shit like Gargoyles or even fucking Captain Planet (though that show was shit.)

The whole 'cartoons being something more than just pure, senseless entertainment' isn't something modern.

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>>2053027
>whom I don't very well that she though is was bad

>> No.2053642

>>2053536
I think it was general story, itself though. The point where the princess came back it seemed that it had already jumped the shark.

>> No.2053650

>>2053607
what a shitty song

>> No.2053655

>>2053597
It's a reference to the show you stupid faggot.

>> No.2053658

SU is a cartoon made for girls, fat gay kids & autistic children (the pony audience). Steven is a crybaby faggot and is like trying to be chowder too much. Don't give a shit about its story or pastel backgrounds. It's vile tumblr pandering, MUH FAT ACCEPTANCE, MUH DIVERSITY, MUH FEELINGS, HEY GUYS LET'S SING A SONG ABOUT TOLERANCE!. Clarence is better, way more entertaining. Even uncle granpa makes me chuckle, SU just makes me cringe. I guess i'm not the target demografic at all.

>> No.2053659

>>2053597
>posts garbo-tier reaction images
>doesn't understand what the word edgy means
>asks for thoughtful arguments
Let me guess, you're a "man going his own way"?

>> No.2053660

>>2053658

You're not, buddy.

Is that such a bad thing though? You yourself say that you like CN's other offerings better.

Why don't you just go with that?

SU isn't negatively impacting your life,
Corralling you into a chainlink fence cage to be mowed down by machineguns

Shut the fuck up

>> No.2053661

>>2053660
He's right you know.

>> No.2053662

Does Steven have any guy friends? Why is a queerboy around 3 women?

>> No.2053670

>>2053660

>This mad

Nothing he said is wrong. It's clear who that show is pandering to and the people the show panders to are lunatics who think you're crazy if you don't like the show. It's Adventure Time cancer all over again.

>> No.2053674

Oh boy. /pol/shit.
Just what I wanted to see in my thread about art direction.

>> No.2053681

>>2053674
The truth hurts, but that doesn't mean people aren't going to be silent when they see utter degeneracy and attempts to brainwash a generation with abominable plays and acts directed at a growing but vulnerable mind.

We're fucked, and what was once satire is now reality.

>> No.2053690

>>2053681
You won't reproduce, so you've got nothing to worry about, anon.

>> No.2053726

It's okay to copy anime now?
Ugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra4UWtNMUKk

>> No.2053743

>>2053726
Western shows have been imitating anime for a while now.

>> No.2053754

>>2053027
Isn't it that that bad adventure time ripoff just with more social justice?

>> No.2053766

>>2053726

Magical girl Utena? ;__;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WZnN_c3rjk

>> No.2053780

>>2053766
>細田守
Whoa!

>> No.2053800

>>2053766
revolutionary girl utena*

>> No.2054054

>>2053613
this, i like muh cartoons with some depth

the thing about SU is that the dark shit sort of comes out of nowhere. so you'll be having a fun ep about magically aging up so you can get free food on your brithday and it turns into 'here, the character is dying!'
it has the air of dream logic to it, i think.

>> No.2054217

>>2053534
I find funny how tumblrinas that defend this shit show claim that it's not propaganda and that "the gyms r genderlezz aliums, not humon XD", as implying that the things portrayed are completely irrelevant, when the nigger lady is made of lesbians and literally sings about how she is better than those oppresive bigots.

>> No.2054223

>>2054217
I like how people who bitch about Tumblrinas are just as annoying themselves.

>> No.2054245

>>2054217
>genderlezz aliums
>lesbians

I don't think you understand how this works.

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>>2053660
>Corralling you into a chainlink fence cage to be mowed down by machineguns
>1960+40+15
>Being this blind to the poisonous liberalism that is becoming the norm in absolutely fucking everything.
SU is part of a bigger problem, but hey, I guess you're simply not well informed on the matter.
Remember the batman cover that was took down for being "rape"? The WHOR comics? How about The last of us DLC where the girl gets a lesbian spotlight? How about that medieval rpg that got smeared for featuring a historically accurate population of purely white people? Or how about the more serious event, where the guy that discovered DNA's double helix structure sold his nobel prize because couldn't work as a scientist anymore, for "being a racist"?

It's the liberal agenda, and their agents of change are pushing for shit in every field possible, in hopes to mold society into their unworkable fantasy land of stronk mixed womyn and dick removers, and they don't give a single shit if they trample art, children's minds, history, science and knowledge itself.
https://vimeo.com/67556847

>> No.2054250

>>2054245
its a shitty show with some good background art thats about it
deal with it

>> No.2054261

>>2054245
Yeah sure, they just look like womyn, and one had a kid with a man, but no, two clearly female beings fusing (euphemism for sex) and making a negress that clearly states that it's a walking relationship made of love is a genderless ayy lmao construction without any propagandistic function.

>> No.2054268

>>2054250
k
>>2054261
> they just look like womyn
yup, good observation.
>and one had a kid with a man
but it's not said how.
>female beings fusing (euphemism for sex)
citation needed
>that clearly states that it's a walking relationship made of love
that's a watered down way of putting it but unless you mean to argue that relationships are inherently unhealthy I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

If you care to get any more triggered please take it to /sug/

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>>2054245
>I don't think you understand how this works.
It's all bullshit anyway.

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>>2054268
>hurr durr retarded justification for clearly obvious propaganda
>I've never heard the poetic usage of "fusion" as a euphemism for sex
>xD relationships are nut bad, ignore the fact that it's a pair of lesbians in a kids show
>take it away I don't like it, despite the fact that the thread was already here.
>Not art related
Woah woah stop right there m8, I thought one of art's main concerns was communication, we are discusing what this piece of shit show communicates to it's audience.
>Not on thread topic
Anime is objectively better in terms of animation, specially when compared to SU of all things.

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2054292

Come on in folks!
We got weeb bait
We got sjw bait
We got autism and aspergers bait
If you don't see the bait that will trigger you ass, tell us and we'll find it for you!

>> No.2054294

>>2054278
man if I said any of those things you could probably come up with a good argument, that being said you'll find people more willing to listen to your strawman on tumblr or /pol/.

Btw what was your favorite episode?

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>>2054278
>fusion is a euphemism for sex
Dragonball Z confirmed for shota fuck fest. Who woulda thunk?

>> No.2054301

>>2054298
>DEEP WANG

Notice that subliminal messaging.

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>>2054294
>I assure you people won't listen to you, go to /pol/
>I somehow speak for the entire population of the board
>Facts+analysis = strawman
Try harder fagboy.
>favorite episode?
I found the one were major dewey teaches steven about damage control mildly amusing, also, the prelude to jasper and peridot; generally the ones were kikebecca sugarwitz isn't hammering her shit political agenda.
>>2054298
Trunks and goten never hugged romantically while crying nor sang a song about not being single after fusing.

>> No.2054321

>>2054292
Just remind /pol/guy that he's the end of his family line and he'll shut right up.

>> No.2054325

>>2054321
>Implying there is just one person pointing the shit in this garbage show
hehehe.

>> No.2054336

>>2054325
Who cares if it still applies?

>> No.2054340

>>2054325
there is just one guy who is that terrible at arguing, yes. Regardless if you had a point you argue like a retard. That makes it really hard to take anything you say seriously.

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>>2054336
Now this is a strawman.
>who cares lel, none of you will have kids XD argument dismissed.
Literally the same to those feminist who insult and question your masculinity when are at a loss of arguments.
The fuck you know about the people in here? I could extract as much information about you based solely on the fact of your posture.

>>2054340
I'm not even this guy >>2053681
>Implying you aren't dismissing everything as "retarded" just because you like the show and your ego hurts.
It's time to grow up.

>> No.2054355

>>2054316
By facts and analysis do you mean far reaching exclamations of lesbian conspiracy?

Because that's what you're doing.

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2054359

>>2054355
It's not only lesbians, and you must be blind if you can't see it.
>Mfw even one of the creators admitted to introduce "sick" shit in the show an encouraged people to draw porn accordingly.>>2053349
>Mfw still in denial about the nature of the show.

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>>2054352
Your describing ad hominem, not strawman. Nice picture btw, very ironic.
">Implying you aren't dismissing everything as "retarded" just because you like the show and your ego hurts.

">Implying you aren't dismissing everything as "retarded" just because you like the show and your ego hurts."
Yes, I am implying that. Try not to get confused by the syntax and remember to sage.

>> No.2054364

>>2054359
>that cherrypicked image

I'm not even in this argument but it's like you want everyone to think you're retarded.

>> No.2054366

>>2054352
>confirmed for getting triggered more easily than most feminists
Abloo abloo, lonelyfag.

>> No.2054373

>>2054359
nah, they never said anything about putting "sick shit" into the show. He was letting the SJW know that they can fuck off cause he's fine with people making smutty fanart.

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>>2054363
>muh syntax
Yeah yeah, it's still a shit rebuttal
>>2054364
>Implying modernism isn't cancer
Can't wait to see what you have to say about it.
>Muh abstract art
>muh meaningfulness
>muh relativism
>If you (rightfully) think it's shit you are retarded XD
>>2054366
Yes boi, YOU WIN, GREAT COMEBACK, I'm le triggered™

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>>2054292
This is why I love you guys. You're all still faggots though.

>> No.2054384

>>2054373
>hey SJW's fuck off, people should draw sick smut because the show has sick shit in itself!
>"no, he's not admiting to put sick shit in the show"
>captcha: rusin

>> No.2054387

>>2054375
Clearly, you are. Your composure diminishes with each reply. Typical untermensch behavior.

>> No.2054391

>>2054387
Stupid comments generate stupid replies, if you behave like an idiot >>2054366, people will answer accordingly, so, will you stop behaving like one?

>> No.2054393

>>2054375
>Yeah yeah, it's still a shit rebuttal
According to your image I refuted your claim pretty well. You claimed some guy was making a strawman, I pointed out that you were describing ad hominem. While your next claim was simply conjecture about my motive. Don't forget that a rational argument is a rational argument regardless of motive, therefore you're point is moot.

don't forget to sage, everyone.

>> No.2054398

>>2054384
what is the "sick shit" that appeared in the show?

>> No.2054399

>>2054398
The show existing in the first place.

>> No.2054407

>>2054391
Should I call you samefag or stick with lonelyfag, untermensch?

>> No.2054409

>>2054393
I among others, claimed that this show is degenerate propaganda, we were met with "you won't have kids therefore your argument is irrelevant" which not only comprises an attack to authority but also ridicules the posture.
Any argument about semantics is completely irrelevant and does not disproves the initial claim, I would even say that your deviation only constitutes an ad hominem in itself.
> lol sageveryone don't listen to this

>> No.2054411

>>2054399
Understand that if you go with that argument you are
>implying that if something exists it is sick shit.
that includes you, your opinion, and your poor understanding of how to form an argument.

>> No.2054417

>>2054398
"Diversity", miscegenation, a critical approach to the traditional family unit, "gender is a social construct", "women are not to be held accountable to their own actions", "anyone who points out a concious effort from certain group to perform evil is delusional", "men are useless idiots", "gynocentric societies are higly advanced".
I don't know, maybe I'll rewatch the shit to see if I find more.

>> No.2054421

>>2054411
>Implying it's the same person.
This shitheap needs ID's.

>> No.2054422

>>2054409
>you won't have kids therefore your argument is irrelevant
I never made this claim. Your implication that this invalidates my appeal to reason is a strawman.
> comprises an attack to authority
I don't know what you mean here, please explain.
>Any argument about semantics is completely irrelevant and does not disproves the initial claim
Actually when a person repeatedly makes fallacious arguments and fails to understand how those fallacies operate the semantics become necessary to reach a objective conclusion. And of course It does not disprove your claim but you've yet to prove your claim. So far you've relied on rhetoric, conjecture, and fighting strawmen to have any semblance of an argument. I find it funny that all these things are calling cards of SJW. Understand that I don't mean you are a SJW but you're attempts to make any sort of point are just as inept, reactionary, and laughable.

>> No.2054431

>>2054417
>gender is a social construct
I don't believe it's ever made this argument. Feel free to give me evidence of one of your claims at some point.
Are you unaware that there are asexual animals?
>"women are not to be held accountable to their own actions"
Need some evidence of this.
>anyone who points out a concious effort from certain group to perform evil is delusional
another ciitation needed.
>men are useless idiots
and another
>gynocentric societies are higly advanced
Has yet to make this claim aswell. Simply because something exists within a story does not mean it is being advocated. Not to mention that society is being played as the evil regime.
>maybe I'll rewatch the shit to see if I find more
Given these points I wouldn't find it far fetched that you've convinced yourself that the sun is a raging tumblr, feminist.

>> No.2054433

>>2054421
Then it wouldn't be fun anymore.

>> No.2054437

>hourly reminder that /pol/guy is gonna die alone

>> No.2054442

>>2054437
Who is this /pol/guy you keep referring to? Is this Mikufag?

>> No.2054444

>>2054422
>I never made this claim.
It doesn't matter.
>I don't know what you mean here
" neckbeard basement dweller won't have kids so it doesn't matter if kids watch filth, he has no authority to point it out".
>you've yet to prove your claim
What's does it need to be proven though? So much can be taken as "conjecture".
The creators have made clear that they attempt, and are paid to, introduce "sick" stuff in the cartoon.
Rebecca sugar is jewish, dates a black man, and comes from one of the most "liberated" states in the usa.
The liberal bias of the show is blatant weather you see it or not.
It doesn't matter if my arguments are poorly redacted, the aforementioned facts stand on it's own, if you can't take them at face value and circumvent everything as fallacies that's entirely on you.

>> No.2054446

>>2054444
>weather

>> No.2054448

>>2054442
The easily triggered redpill conspiracy theorist.

>> No.2054450

>>2054444
>all of these words used in the wrong context
Well, at least you admit you're human trash.

>> No.2054458

>>2054444
>It doesn't matter.
Unless you were simply trying to demonstrate your ability to paste words from other comments then I assume you were using it as an argument and in that case refuting you does matter.
>" neckbeard basement dweller won't have kids so it doesn't matter if kids watch filth, he has no authority to point it out".
how you got that from "attack to authority" I still do not understand. Again, I did not make this claim so whatever.
>What's does it need to be proven though?
Evidence, specific examples of the show doing exactly what you're accusing it of. Basing your arguments on reality and not your emotional interpretations is pretty important.
>The creators have made clear that they attempt, and are paid to, introduce "sick" stuff in the cartoon.
citation needed
>Rebecca sugar is jewish, dates a black man, and comes from one of the most "liberated" states in the usa.
You might as well assume that if someone is white, dates a white, and lives in Texas they obviously are inbred, fuck animals, and live off welfare.
>The liberal bias of the show is blatant weather you see it or not.
assuming I don't see it, you would provide evidence here to back up your claim.
>It doesn't matter if my arguments are poorly redacted, the aforementioned facts stand on it's own.
you've proven nothing to be fact, without evidence to show your claims are based in reality and not a delusion I am unable to give anything you've said the slightest bit of merit.
>if you can't take them at face value and circumvent everything as fallacies that's entirely on you.
By this logic I should listen to anyone who says "kill all men because my feelings!!!!!"
You've yet to prove a single claim you've made, I am unable to accept your claims if they have no basis. You have so far been unwilling to do anything else then list empty complaints and make fallacious arguments. Given this trend I'm find it time to cut myself out of this conversation and wish you the best of luck.

>> No.2054478

>>2054431
>gender is a social construct
Stevonie is an intersexual genderfluid tumblr freak.
Gems are female yet posses superhuman strenght ( I mean, just look like women but are not, but can have kids with males!).
Sadie beats an invisible gem monster with a wooden stick.
>"women are not to be held accountable to their own actions"
Sadie traps lars and steven in a dessert island but it's ok because she did it for love
The gems destroyed the pizzeria among other places but who gives a fuck, Steven gets the blame and has to fix it on his own
>anyone who points out a concious effort from certain group to perform evil is delusional
The fryman dude was following the leads of the aliens in town and attributed them to snake people, pearl points out that humans are stupid for blaming the evil in the world to some boogieman, and proceeds to paint him as a raving lunatic seeing shit where there is none (despite the fact that the leads fryman is following are real, he's just reaching a wrong conclusion).
>men are useless idiots
The most prominent male figures are protrayed as irresponsible simpletons, Lars is a douchebag and leaves Sadie all the work, Greg is a deadbeat loser living in a Van and the Gems don't let him live with his son, Dewey is a shit politician uncapable to control the masses, Fryman is an autistic fedora wearer, the arcade guy is an unfulfilled B class actor, the pizza guy took the upperhand in the volleyball match by grounding his daughter.
>gynocentric societies are higly advanced
Entire alien race of females form an intergalactic empire, and only other female rebels have the capability to stop them from taking the earth.
>you've convinced yourself that the sun is a raging tumblr, feminist.
Oh no, I'm just delusional right?
>>2054446
Haven't had breakfast, sue me.

>> No.2054480
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2054480

it's praised as the best show ever in tumblr for the following reasons
>black characters
>fat female characters
>black girl with glasses that has no friends because she's a special snowflake and no one understands her
>easy to draw

>> No.2054485

>>2054478
>hasn't had breakfast
Or the affections of someone not genetically related to you, permawizard.

>> No.2054487

>This thread
Stop fucking arguing over a kid's show and draw.

Jesus Christ.

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2054496

>>2054458
>citation needed
>without evidence to show your claims are based in reality and not a delusion
Jesus fuck, just read the attached image >>2053349
>oh boy racial stereotypes are irrelevant!
I'm not saying that all jews are "x", but the people controlling media (and infusing it with liberalism) are jews.
Stay in denial.

>> No.2054497

>>2054496
Funny how rebecca sugar was also the one that infused adventure time with the lesbic subtext.

>> No.2054500

>>2054496
>Jews made the best films
Thanks Jews :^)

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2054505

>>2054485
>If you disagree with me you don't have a GF
Nice.
>>2054500
It has to be seemingly decent for people to eat it up, like steven universe.
>Lel shit taste

>> No.2054523

>>2054496
I'm not saying that all men are "x", but the people controlling media (and infusing it with patriarchy) are men.
Stay in denial.

>> No.2054528

>>2053186
>It's a show made for ADHD kids
Confirmed for never watching it.

>> No.2054531

>>2054505
It's hard to believe that /pol/tards actually think they aren't delusional.

I'm not Liberal or anything either, but holy shit. Seek a therapist.

>> No.2054532

>>2054505
Repugnant losers that blame their involuntary solitude on da ebil jewz are often single, yes.

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>>2054523
The difference is that jews do hold key positions of power in anything you can think of.
Muh patriarchy is just a retarded scapegoat with no actual fundament.
>>2054531
There is a difference between screaming illuminaty and actually looking at the evidence.
>>2054532
Am I blaming my hypothetical solitude on the jews now? How so?

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2054544

>>2054523
Implying feminists and SJW's aren't a proxy to re-shape society.

>> No.2054547

>>2054540
>Muh patriarchy is just a retarded scapegoat with no actual fundament.

That was the point.

>> No.2054549

>>2054540
>hypothetical
Top fucking kek.
>muh cultural degeneracy
>jewz did it and therefore propagate misandry
>all women are feminist whores, except my pure fantasy waifu
Did I pretty much cover it, lonelyfag?

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2054558

>>2054547
"Da j00s" is not.
>>2054549
>misandry
>waifu
>not a single mention about this in the entire thread
I think you are projecting now, but whatever helps you sleep at night.

>> No.2054561

I don't like Steven Universe.

>> No.2054570

>>2054558
>"Da j00s" is not.
coulda fooled me.

>> No.2054573

>>2054558
>"projecting"
>proof once again that you mindlessly regurgitate buzzwords without knowing what they mean
Enjoy being a living caricature until you finally kill yourself, untermensch.

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2054575

>>2054570
But it's true man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ
>sweden
>soon to be third world shithole
>Because of jews
>>2054573
Stay classy barbara.

>> No.2054576
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2054576

I judge myself by a personal standard.
I judge professional work by the professional standard for that subject.
Realistic concept art is not compared to fine art and such.

Pic related.
I like the simplistic style.
But I love how the show combines my 3 favorite genrees:
Post-Apocalypse, Sci fi and Fantasy.
Society got a reset after a big fallout so everything has mutated.
I wish there was a "grown up" version of this.

>> No.2054579

>>2054575
And you stay your father's biggest disappointment.

>> No.2054581

>>2054575
Guilt by association is fallacy anon. You should learn critical thinking before you try to convince anyone of anything. You have yet to make a single rational argument. You are sjw by any other name.

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2054583

>this entire thread

>> No.2054591

>>2054581
This, and this alone.

>> No.2054592

I gotta know, guys. How many of you are actually on /pol/ack's side on this one?

>> No.2054600

>>2054592
I fucking don't like Steven Universe.

>> No.2054606

>>2054600
http://strawpoll.me/4125919

>> No.2054607

>>2054600
that's alright, as long as you're not asking for anyone else to dislike it you're not obligated to give your reason why. That being said you're post is irrelevant to his question.

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2054609

>>2054600
>stop liking what I don't like!
>muh feels!
>muh Bagina!

Fuck off you stupid cunt nobody gives a shit what you like or don't like.

>>2054592
I am for the simple fact it's just more modern social justice multicultural lgbtbbq+ fat-positive indoctrination. I am tired of our greatest ally shoving this crap down our throats I can be "tolerant" but this is ridiculous.

>> No.2054612

>>2054606
>http://strawpoll.me/4125919
>no "I like steven universe but side with neither /pol/ or tumblr, because I am not a reactionary fuckwit"

c'mon

>> No.2054613

I feel like people don't understand that simple =/= easy to make

>> No.2054618

>>2054609
Are there other examples in the mainstream media? Does GoT fall into this category also because it features gays?

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2054638

>>2054581
Come one man, I'm not even generalizing anything, It's not my fault that every powerful person supporting social decay through liberalism happens to be a jew.
But hey, you're OBVIOUSLY the one with the better judgement so yeah whatever.
>You have yet to make a single rational argument
Nice meme.

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2054640

>>2054540
>evidence
I haven't read all of this silly argument of yours, but I've looked at some of your pictures, and I feel I should point out that they don't really contain any evidence. It's just a collection of news articles, wikipedia articles and photos of people, sometimes with notes jotted on. I get that you're implying that there's some kind of vast conspiracy, but I don't even understand what the conspiracy is supposed to be about. Something about some vague, omnipotent council of jews (unclear if this is supposed to mean practicing jews who actually believe in the teachings of judaism, or just people with jewish ancestors) controlling the content of children's cartoons? I have no idea.

Basically, I don't understand what you're trying to say because I don't have schizophrenia.

>> No.2054641

>>2054638
> It's not my fault that every powerful person supporting social decay through liberalism happens to be a jew.
Are you now arguing against yourself?
You are arguing against yourself now, good job.
>rationality is a meme
I forgot that only your feelings are what counts. Sorry for my appeal to reason, hopefully you don't wish me out of existence, Anthony.

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2054642

>>2054640
It's not a "conspiracy" that you can just write off like that. Jews just have a lot of money, lol; in a capitalist society that translates to power and influence.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/28/obama-romney-jewish-vote_n_1714250.html

>For all the wooing of American Jews in presidential campaigns, those who say Israel's fate drives their vote make up 6 percent of a reliably Democratic bloc. The tiny numbers are overlaid with an outsize influence. Campaign donations from Jews or Jewish and pro-Israel groups account for as much as 60 percent of Democratic money, and groups such as the American Israel Public Affairs Committee can bring strong pressure on candidates.

>> No.2054664

>>2054642
>It's not a "conspiracy" that you can just write off like that.
your feels are not a basis. Assuming that your linked images are true you can only make an argument that Jews happen to be wealthy on average and a few of them are idiots (go figure). Anything that you surmise beyond that point needs evidence as well or else it's simply rhetorical conjecture. You are still playing guilt by association and if you thought about how that plays out logically you would have to kill yourself simply because another being that at one point existed had committed murder thus rendering you guilty because you too are a being that exists.

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2054665

>>2054618
Practiclly all "big" media has liberal subtext, it's just that steven universe it's so "IN YOUR FACE", besides, this is a SU thread.
>>2054641
>YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT ALL JEWS ARE EVIL!! FUKN RETARD
>Not at all, not all jews are, but the people controling the media and infusing it with liberalism happen to be jews.
>SO YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT ALL JEWS ARE EVIL!! FUKN RETARD
>No, I'm not
>NOW UR ARGUING WITH URSELF

Fellate a gun, dipshit.

>> No.2054669

>>2054665
Okay, so representation is indoctrination. Just making sure.

>> No.2054670
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>>2054664
>Piles and piles of evidence.
>your feels are not a basis.

>> No.2054678

>>2054642
It should be noted that Indians have only been with us for a generation or two since immigration laws changed in the late 50s (for demographic purposes they basically didn't exist in this country until the 80's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_American#Historical_population and still make up less than a percent of the population) whereas Jews have been in America from the colonial period.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4099803,00.html

>Since the mass immigration some 100 years ago, Jews have become richest religious group in American society. They make up only 2% of US population, but 25% of 400 wealthiest Americans. How did it happen, and how crucial is their aid to Israel?

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/05/biden-praises-jews-goes-too-far.html

> “The embrace of immigration” is part of that, as is the involvement of Jews in social justice movements.

>“You can’t talk about the civil rights movement in this country without talking about Jewish freedom riders and Jack Greenberg,” he said, telling a story about seeing a group of Jewish activists at a segregated movie theater in Delaware. “You can’t talk about the women’s movement without talking about Betty Friedan” …

>“It wasn’t anything we legislatively did. It was ‘Will and Grace,’ it was the social media. Literally. That’s what changed peoples’ attitudes. That’s why I was so certain that the vast majority of people would embrace and rapidly embrace” gay marriage, Biden said.

>“Think behind of all that, I bet you 85 percent of those changes, whether it’s in Hollywood or social media are a consequence of Jewish leaders in the industry. The influence is immense, the influence is immense. And, I might add, it is all to the good.”

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>Short ugly bitch
>Strong tall black woman
>skinny white girl with dyke hair
>the only dude is a short fatty who looks mexican

What a progressive show.

/co/ is cancer.

>> No.2054685

>>2054670
Guilt by association isn't just a fun thing to say bro. Just because you want your pictures to be relevant to your claim does not make them so. I can prove that meteors fall from the sky, that does not make every cloud a stone.

>> No.2054693

>>2054682
Go wash out your onahole, f/a/ggot.

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>>2054669
Most of contemporary jewish teachings and behaviours are permeated with zionist ideas, so, wether zionism comes from jewish nature or jews behave like such due zionist indoctrination, I don't know.
But I'll repeat myself, I don't think ALL jews are evil, but I do KNOW that the people pushing the liberal agenda on every possible field are jews.
>>2054685
Yeah yeah, it's impossible, doesn't make any sense.

>> No.2054714

>>2054682
Pearl = kike
Amethyst = Beaner
Garnet = Nigger
Steven = A freak product of miscegenation.

>> No.2054725

>>2054710
>Yeah yeah, it's impossible, doesn't make any sense.
not my claim. Good luck with life, I hope Rebeca Sugar doesn't turn you gay or whatever.

>> No.2054732

>>2054710
How does portraying LGBT characters on TV further the Jewish agenda? Genuine question. I don't see any relationship.

>> No.2054736

>>2054732
One word

WHITE GENOCIDE

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>>2054725
>METOER FELL FROM SKY NO MEAN CLOUD ROCKS
>"Not my claim"
>Kids cartoon affects grown ups
>Kids cartoon
>Kids
I hope your kids and your young relatives never mutilate their reproductive organs, good luck to you too.
>>2054732
Depravity is a goy thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yLbF0BtZs4

>> No.2054747

>>2054732
You glorify homosexuality, you corrupt and demoralize viewers and destroy virtues.

>> No.2054751

>>2054747
>this thing exists
>glorify

Please stop glorifying jews by saying they're real.

>> No.2054763

>>2053082
It's a bit like Adventure Time except with a plot that actually develops.

The music is top-notch.

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>>2054732
It's cultural marxism 101, kill society and build whatever you want in the ashes, and according to kalergi and miss spectre, what they want is a slave race with jews in command.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fo5jLdJlgI

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>>2054763
Please, music is used by jews to corrupt the youth. Steven universe is no different. Check my pics to see the proof.

>> No.2054771

>>2053104
:^)

>> No.2054796

>>2054768
>Music can't corrupt the youth
How retarded are you?
>Jews didn't made 9/11 among other false flags like lusitania and pearl harbor.
kek

Anyway, I never adressed the music because, besides the few lyrical compositions (which are shit), the music is pretty decent, like a lot of things in steven universe actually, no one is saying that kike propaganda=poorly made, in fact is quite the contrary, it needs to be good to have a legion of retarded fanboys willing to deffend it despite promoting pure shit.

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[ERROR]

>>2054796
nigga can you read? I agreed with you.