/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Framed ink is a must buy (or at least a must pirate)

>>2050775
I had a loan of that briefly from a friend, amazing book. Might just buy it

If you know Japanese, read every tweet from this guy.
https://twitter.com/cputon

Why do American cartoons always have boring storyboards?

>>2050816
Probably because, like concept art, it's not meant to be pretty but only have enough information to get the point across. That being said, It may be possible that better looking preproduction works may lead to better looking productions

>>2050849
I'm not talking how the drawings look.
Actually, storyboards in American production are generally more well-drawn and polished than anime's storyboards.

The problem is that every shot looks boring. They are all simple profile or 3/4 shots.

>>2050816

but that looks even more boring than the storyboard OP posted. fck off weeb

>>2050853
Look at the visual variety in this.
Even something supposedly low-key and mundane is still far more imaginative than American cartoon's storyboard.

>>2050858
>>2050853
Anime and American cartoons just have a different way of story telling. Most cartoons opt for highly distinguishable silhouettes, even down to a hand gesture (pic related; you see these sort of notes in nearly every model sheet for American TV animation). It's pretty similar to a play; more stripped down and over exaggerated so everything can be read more easily? Anime is just a lot more "cinematic".

Not sure why there's a difference, though.

>>2050853
>>2050853
>The problem is that every shot looks boring
Why does every shot have to look amazing or interesting? I think this is one of the biggest problems with composition and cinematography nowadays. Everyone's trying to one up eachother with crazy angles, lighting and compositions but really none of that has any purpose other than looking "cool". If you ask me, it all looks really try hard. I'd take a simplistic but meaningful composition over one whose sole purpose is to make interesting a boring and thus shitty scene.

>>2050853
The amount of action obviously depends on the show and the scene you dumb fucking weeb. There are plenty of moeshit anime that barely have any movement at all during exposition scenes due to budget reasons. Those scenes are also storyboarded. You just won't find them online and if you did, you wouldn't post them because they are boring as fuck.

http://leseanthomas.deviantart.com/art/LEGEND-OF-KORRA-STORYBOARDS-Ep-10-322551597

>>2050816
>nips are better

are we doing this again?

>>2050872
I think they emphasize on the visual consistency too much that it makes storyboard artists too scare to try something different.

>I'd take a simplistic but meaningful composition
I don't know man, effective composition is what I think modern cartoons lack.

>>2050816
>muh animu, so expressive

>>2050858

>>2050876
It's always fun seeing weebs getting BTFO by people posting far superior western artists.

>>2050816
because the overseas people who animate it usually trace over the storyboards for key frames, adding a bunch of needless pencil shading would slow production and waste their time as well

>>2050853
>why does a simple introduction and conversation between two characters not have a billion different camera angles

>>2050853
Oh I get what you are saying, yea that's because gravity falls is television and television animation is a lot cheaper so you get a lot of 3/4 close ups and medium shops due to save time. Look up cartoon modern and you will understand what I mean. Even most anime is guilty of this

>>2050816
Yeah. They always have the most boring uninspired front-on camera angles too.

somewhat related:

could we please get some expression sheets for cartoon characters?

>>2050951
This?

Sup niggas

>>2051067

>>2051068

>>2051069

chris sanders magic

>>2051066
was hoping for something more like this

>>2051074
Ah

>>2051067
In storyboarding, this is what's known as a banana pan.

>>2050886
Then the entire thing is dull because everything is in the exact same 3/4 angle.

>>2051080
Is he drunk? I think he need to go to see an otolaryngologist otherwise.

>>2050951

>>2051135
Are you talking about the very subtle warm hue on the nose, which is the same as under his eyes and on his ears? It's a simple but very common and effective way to show warmth in the areas of the face that have the most blood flow. Similar to how he used a greenish, colder hue on the lower part of the face that has beard growth and more blue blood vessels. The artist respects real life observations and exaggerates it ever so slightly.

Meanwhile hipster amateurs like you completely disregard that faces do in fact have color hue and temperature shifts in real life, just for the sake of doing the exact opposite of what tumblr does.

>>2050775
that's it?
Is framed ink the only book on storyboarding?

>>2051080
>>2051370
keep em comming

>>2051434
>very subtle warm hue
>very subtle
Calibrate your monitor.

>>2051444
If you have to ask that, you will never make it.

>>2051495
You might want to get your eyes checked.

>>2051533
You realize that even if I had eyes that could see subtleties very clearly to the point where they would not register as subtleties anymore it would just mean that I had very good eyes, right? Maybe you should have your brain checked.

>>2051539
Either you are mentally challenged or you have trouble seeing the true saturation of warm color.

Open that image in photoshop and use the colorpicker. Obviously the difference between the hues is visible you fucking moron, but it is not a jarring red as you are implying with your dumb fucking hipster comment earlier. It is a subtle, slightly more saturated hue that is slightly more shifted towards the reds.

Your comment reeks of desperation for approval. "those tumblr noses, amirite guys?? hahaha please let me fit in".

>>2051539
>You realize that even if I had eyes that could see subtleties very clearly to the point where they would not register as subtleties anymore it would just mean that I had very good eyes, right?

Uh, no, if you saw moderately saturated orange and warm yellows as bright red, then that would mean your eyes were inferior to those of people with regular eyesight because your eyes can't recognize low chroma colors. You do sound a bit stupid.

>>2051565
> if you saw moderately saturated orange and warm yellows as bright red
But I don't, you retard. It's pretty obvious from this reply that you can't see colors properly, otherwise you would know that a nose could be wrong even if it weren't straight up "bright red".

>>2051551
You might want to look at real people. You would discover that the depicted hue shift is even greater than the one people suffer from being actually drunk. So obviously it reads as a drunkard, or someone in a snowstorm.
Pic related, a nose of a mildly drunk asian person, who according to wikipedia are the more susceptible to this phenomenon. This is subtle, you probably wouldn't notice if you were just skimming through some other pictures
>subtle
>(especially of a change or distinction) so delicate or precise as to be difficult to analyse or describe.
If you think >>2051080 is difficult to analyse or describe, you should have your eyes checked too. It stood out so much, I could see it from the fucking thumbnail (and you could too even if you refuse to admit it).

>>2050775
A download link of it, please?

>>2051529
silly one, i wanted to lure answers from you.