/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>2032229

>>2032231
>my autism limits me to mimicking others to successfully socialize since i dont have a mind or personality of my own

That was a favorite piece of mine and an inspiration to me why was it deleted? No matter have another one of my favorites.

>>2032229
>what's your favourite art?

well it's this licked to the point of airbrushiness genre painting of an ugly girl.

>sounds interesting, what style is it in?

oh you know that late 19th century salon style which is almost universally despised.

>you have good taste my friend.

thanks /ic/

>>2032238
I prefer my dramatic sea scenes with more cannibalism.

>>2032244
>before we invented perspective

>>2032240
this guy mad

>>2032302
It wasn't actually, El Greco intentionally distorts figures and landscapes for emotional effect.

>>2032229

>>2032327

>>2032331

>>2032327
i know i shouldn't hate basquiat because it's not his fault but i do.

>>2032354

>>2032344
a lot of his work is shit but a lot I genuinely like, it's self-assured and up there with some of the best action painting.

>>2032310
well i have to say i get bit emotional when looking at it because the perspective is so fucked up / nonexistant!

>>2032526
El Greco had a pretty firm understanding of perspective (keep in mind he's roughly contemporary with Vasari). Claiming he "fucked up" his perspective is like claiming he "fucked up the anatomy on his notoriously elongated figures. It was intentional distortion for an effect.

Art-newbies, having just learned the "rules" of art, never fail to criticize any sort of abstraction or distortion as a mistake. We're very proud that you can spot when perspective is broken, now you can work on understanding why the rules of art are broken.

>>2032333

haha, this thread is so fuckin bad

>>2032862
agreed. and the dude always glorifying el greco makes me lol so hard. el greco sucks dong, get over it.

I have a few i'm fond of.

>>2032883

>>2032884

>>2032845
mah nigga

the same paintings are being posted in these kind of threads over and over again.
is it because of the same users or is it because the ic community has reached a consensus on what they consider as top notch?
don't want to sound bitter, but you always see the same old neo-classical paintings floating around. why is that?

>>2032886
Why do the most technically able painters inspired old masters today resort to perversion and glorified academic figure studies?

>>2032922
The paintings are mostly from painters that aspiring artists who value skill are exposed to today. I wouldn't mind so much if they posted artworks that aren't just the most recognizable paintings from the artist.

>>2032930
That is pretty much what the old masters did though?

>>2032922
I always post the same paintings.

Because they're still my favorite?

>>2032922
Probably don't know any other artists

>>2032940
Some paintings from the old masters and beyond can be called perverted or to have an air of eroticism, but they were much more than that. Most of Bouguereau's paintings are quite pure (even most of the nudes) and non-shocking. Bouguereau understood classical philosophy and immersed himself in it. The followers of old masters today who are popular are of another level wherein their very image is often inseparable from their perversion.

This one, I have a print of it on my wall in my room. Just the look of absolute savagery on saturn's face is just so chilling, the way he grips the corpse so tightly that his fingers are going through the man/female like it was nothing at all, the grotesque position, the lighting that suggests that he is in a cave or maybe a void of some sort, the story behind the painting, hell some people speculate that the painting has been worn down to the point where the original strokes were lost to time, and that originally he had semi-erect penis as he consumed his sons flesh from fear of one of them overpowering him. It's just so horrific.. it's beautiful.

>>2032930
Probably they paint what they want to to paint.

>>2032972
You serriously have a print of Chronos eating his children?

>>2032972
It's amazing, and very eloquently put.
10/10 if you had uploaded a larger pic.

I stared at this photo for so long when I unlocked it in SCIV.
>Dat Voldo omg

This always gives me chills. It's so subtle, yet once you realize the innerlying crisis in the work...

>>2032235
Holy shit, that's amazing.

>>2032922
/ic/ is made up of "self-educated" NEETS with extremely limited tastes.
>>2032862
>>2032867
everything wrong with this board. contribute nothing, spit on a thread, shitpost in a few more threads, then they go jack off to traps on /b/.

I feel like I'm supposed to post something more hipster than sargent or else I'll be made fun of.

>>2033197
you'll probably just be made fun of for assuming art that isn't figurative realism is "hipster"

>>2033232
I was thinking of the way that people assume "you only like sargent/famous artist because you aren't educated enough to know anyone else"

>>2033235
I agree that the people who are against liking academic art are just as closed minded as the people who are against liking modern art. we just get a lot more of the latter here.

>>2032867
>el greco sucks
die in a fire

>>2033178
>/ic/ is made up of "self-educated" NEETS with extremely limited tastes.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to feel like an elitist, you pretentious twat.

>>2033266
ain't about me, it's about the limited scope of this board. anyone who's lurked here long enough knows this is a fact, the board's tastes are mostly limited to figurative realism and a large portion of the people posting here fear any sort of abstraction or expressionism, even impressionists and post-impressionists are too avant garde for a lot of /ic/.

>>2033274
Of course /ic/ fears any degree of abstraction, most anons here don't even understand what it means to have a visual concept in thier work. So they rely heavily on the literal.

It's not a problem of having limited tastes, because that would imply an ability to read art. It's a problem of not knowing how to look at a painting altogether. Add to that the fact that most anons are either too lazy or are not interested in reading up on how to appreciate a work of art.

They sit around waiting for good art to be given to them. What else would expect from a group like that?

>>2033289
I find your statement bold and brass, you convinced me with those hot opinions.

>>2033292
Thank you Squidward

>>2033289
Are you that one black dude that says he's going to be famous

>>2033300
Are you that one latin dude that thinks he knows it all?

>>2032922

>>2033311

>>2033309
No

>>2033315

>>2033289
yeah, tbh I have no idea why I continue to come here. same appeal as the rest of 4chan I guess, there's new shit to sift through every time you visit. the problem is that shit is actually shit. if I didn't have a group of actual artists to discuss art and art theory with irl I'd go nuts, I pity anyone who relies on /ic/ for art discourse.

>>2033316
Then are you one of the Asian dudes with chip on his shoulder?

>>2033319
No

come at me

>>2033274

>he thinks Kadinsky compares to Waterhouse or Sargent

>he thinks this means he's more refined and intellectual than the rest of this board

no, anon, it's you who has no taste. doesn't matter how many failed-artist art professors at your hippy-dippy school agree with you.

>>2033330
kandinsky was just a pic I had saved, don't read into it too far. I like both Waterhouse and Sargent, as well as Kandinsky, and comparing them is comparing apples and oranges, so you can shove your strawman up your butthole, shit-licker.

>>2033324
Then are you one of the canadian egotists

>>2033335
Bruh are you that one dude or not

>>2033342
Bruh, are you one the retards from California?

>>2033345
:^(

>>2033346
Is that a yes, then?

>>2032478
At least you can admit that. Enjoying it is perfectly fine. But also recognizing its shit is a huge plus.

>>2033557
some is shit, some is great (like most artists oeuvres). obviously I don't enjoy the shitty ones.

anything by Freud

>Favorite art

Damn, that's hard to choose... I will just post something I like a lot

>>2032256
Woah...

>>2032478
>People pretend to like this

Was that made by a chimp?

>>2033600
>pretend
believe it or not, there are people out there in the world right this second with different tastes than you.

mind-blowing, right? will you tell them all individually to stop liking what you don't like?

>>2033602
Yeah, you totally admires something that could be made by a 5 year old, that is not pretentious at all.

>>2033605
the imagery is childish. the brushstrokes and colors are very advanced technically. thats the appeal. lets see you pull that off in oil paints.

>>2033610
>the brushstrokes and colors are very advanced technically.

Sorry but I am not a gullible college hipster, that looks like someone kicked brushes into a canvas after pouring randomly selected colors at them.

>>2033610
this. personally I admire it because my work is always so tight, and loosening up is one of my biggest issues. guys like basquiat and de kooning who have that uninhibited freedom to their work, brushstrokes that ooze energy and vitality, are really inspiring. I make much more representational and realistic looking work myself, but I still look to these guys when it comes for painting technique and energy.

>>2033605
A five year old could also write a better sentence than that. there's nothing pretentious about liking whatever I happen to like, pretentious would be looking down at other people for not "getting" what I see in it, or claiming all other styles are bullshit.

work on your english, thanks.

>>2033616
>"This bridge is extremely well designed and constructed"
>"lol sorry im not a guillible construction worker looks like someone glued some popsicle sticks together anyone can put a plank over a river wow"

>>2033616
do one better. "my kid could do that" is what people who've never picked up a brush say, there's a big difference between "random" and controlled chaos. if you can't tell the difference, that's on you.

>>2033618
> looking down at other people for not "getting" what I see in it, or claiming all other styles are bullshit.

Oh great, I did neither, is this related to some bad childhood memory, or you need to make stuff up to look right?

Maybe sticking a brush up your ass and jumping on a canvas will grant you the results you look for, Mr. "Representional and Realistic"

>>2032235
Bernini is a solid choice

>>2033620
>Comparing a garbage modern art with a bridge

College hipster detected. Don't worry, once you get rich selling blue canvases those engineering guys will die of jealously!

>>2033621
> there's a big difference between "random" and controlled chaos.

And the difference is that one of them you pretentious, garbage worshipping losers praise it?

>>2033624
>I did neither
never said you did. learn to read kid.

>>2033626
>taking metaphorical situations literally
>implying im an art major

College dropout detected
stay mad faggot

>>2033626
contemporary art. odd how the people criticizing "modern art" know absolutely nothing about art history...
>>2033628
>pretentious
someday you'll learn the meaning of that word.

>>2033628
>I DONT UNDERSTAND SOMETHING AND ITS MAKING ME SCARED AND ANGRY MOOOM

>>2033631
You just compared modern art with a bridge, it must suck being THIS stupid.

>>2033632
Want to talk about the meaning of a word? Hey, go learn what is "modern art", then we can talk.

>>2033633
>I DONT UNDERSTAND THIS RETARDED MESS ON A CANVAS THAT MEANS HE IS A GENIUS MOOOM

>>2033633
exactly this. you don't see people who like abstract and contemporary art having this big of a shit-fit over bouguereau or shishkin.

the self-righteous rage really shows insecurity. be proud that you share the same artistic tastes as hitler, another angry guy who never stopped whining about the avant garde.

>>2033635
Basquiat is not modern, he's contemporary/post-modern (neo-expressionist). please try to educate yourself before educating others.

>>2033634
just because you dont understand doesnt mean im wrong :)

"Plants are like mammals, in that they need water to survive"
>WOOOOOOOW DOGS ARENT PLANTS GJ BIOLOGY PROFESSOR 1/10 CANT EVEN TELL THE DIFFERENCE I WASNT EVER A FLOWER WOW

inb4 pretending to be retarded

>>2033637
>you don't see people who like abstract and contemporary art having this big of a shit-fit over bouguereau or shishkin.

Even worse than complain, they hide it so others do not see or admire them, because anyone who like realistic art is being "ignorant" of how inspired and deep the garbage is, so they keep it hidden.

>>2033638
I have an even better therm: garbage

>>2033639
A bridge is something made with a function and well established measurements.

Garbage is not like a bridge, stop trying to make a fool out of me, child.

>>2033636
The difference being that people can explain in a logical and clear manner why art like this has historically-proven merit. You cant even muster up anything beyond "I dont like it, it looks bad". Even some stupid argument about how its watering down the standards of good art or some bullshit would at least make me think that you have a basic idea about why youre throwing such a hissy fit

Just because you dont like something doesnt mean its bad
im arguing with 15 year olds on the internet

>>2033625
>sup nigga

>>2033644
you can say garbage all you want, won't change the fact that you tried to correct someone who knows way more about art than you. it's cute really.
>>2033640
muh conspiracy theories.

>>2033644
>stop trying to make a fool out of me, child.

Oh don't worry you're doing that all by yourself

>>2033644
>, stop trying to make a fool out of me, child.
lmao already doing fine on your own.

>nothing personnel....kid...

I cant stop masterbating to this pic.
Save me from delicious brown

>>2033648
An art so pathetically bad, it needs wall of texts so easily impressionable morons will think it is "deep" and "provocative" and whatnot. Meanwhile, good art can be appreciated by any healthy person.

>>2033651
Dude, garbage is garbage, no reason to call it "contemporary art" or "modern art", in the end it is all the same.

>>2033657
ten bucks says you never read any of the text because youre too lazy and then go on the complain about "too much reading".

i bet you think CoD is a great game as well

>>2033657
all art is enriched by historical context, from renaissance works full of religious imagery and portraits of patrons stuck in the corner to basquiat and pollock.

it's especially useful for modern and contemporary art because a lot of people, who lack an education in art, make the mistaken assumption that all art has a single goal: to be pretty like a flower, and faithfully represent reality.

if you take an art history 101 course, you learn this isn't so, and you don't bring your own preconceived judgments and expectations to a work that isn't even attempting to achieve the goals you've set for it.

>>2033662
you're quite proud of your ignorance, aren't you?

>>2033663
>Waah you like CoD you are not like my hipster loser friends

A chimp can do better art than you, why haven't you evolved yet? too much inbreeding?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Brassau

>>2033664
Art stopped evolving after a bunch of talentless degenerates took over, thinking their feelings were more important than their content, skill or effort. Sounds familiar?

>>2033668
If I start to catalog pieces of shit, does that mean it is worth remembering the names I gave them?

>>2033672
>Sounds familiar?
yeah, sounds exactly what hitler said during his degenerate art exhibit. modern art took off without him, and I can't think of a single person in the field of art who takes his ideas seriously.

>>2033675
>Modern art took off

You mean, turned into a big joke? where artists are chosen as geniuses and masters arbitrarily and with no reason? Where chimps can be mistaken as masters of art?

Yeah, it surely "took off", too bad it had to come back into being good as a product, because even though people will pretend to like something to sound smart, they cannot deny what really moves them.

>>2033677
no, I mean took off as in: it gained mass appeal, was shown in numerous galleries, purchased by museums, made countless artists both living wages and fame, and continues to influence art to this day.

people are moved by modern art every day, and they don't deny it. luckily we have you here to tell them what they REALLY think, everybody loves a dictator.

speaking of dictators, how do you feel about literally sharing hitler's views on art? you skipped that part.

>>2033621
Of course the average painter who hasn't done much painting in that vein won't be able to achieve it. That doesn't mean it's difficult even though it gives a false sense of difficulty when someone who is even a trained artist can't right away achieve something like Pollock's or any other childish paintings. Comparatively it requires a lot less.

TOOOO INFINITY AND BEYOND!!!!!!!

>>2033686
>someone who is even a trained artist can't right away achieve something like Pollock's or any other childish paintings
there is literally a scientific study that says otherwise, but whatever. you already know what you say is bullshit, you contradict yourself in the space of two sentences

>>2033637
>exactly this. you don't see people who like abstract and contemporary art having this big of a shit-fit over bouguereau or shishkin.
They do shit on skilled painters though. They're even more insecure. Worse, a great part of them claim their paintings are much more meaningful while their works reek of nihilism.

>>2033663
You represent modern way of thinking in which learning is done to put others down, and assume that anyone who doesn't share your sentiment isn't well read, or that reading about them will inevitably lead one to the like conclusion as you. We're surrounded by modern and postmodern art. It's quite difficult for one to be uneducated about them. Thing is, why should someone who sees something as worthless endeavor to research more into worthlessness? There are greater things out there to study, and the study of which will improve judgment in all areas of art and life.

>>2033664
>it's especially useful for modern and contemporary art because a lot of people, who lack an education in art, make the mistaken assumption that all art has a single goal: to be pretty like a flower, and faithfully represent reality.
No, that's mostly modernists and postmodernists projecting their thoughts about pre-modern art to the people who don't work in modernist ways. I've heard more contemporary artists claim that painting with objects and coherent composition in space is more about reproducing reality than the other.

>>2033700
so
>ad hominem
>there are more important things to study than art

what the fuck are you even talking about anymore retard. take your little bitch fit somewhere else. get off the computer and take a walk you cuck

>>2033691
I think you misunderstand me. How does it contradict? I'm saying that someone who's spend his life not working like Pollock won't be able to right away reproduce the same effect if he tried. That doesn't mean that action painting is especially difficult to do as they claim. It's just difficult to that particular painter because he hasn't practiced in that way. But supporters of Pollock make it SEEM like it is because if some great painter can't reproduce Pollock (in the same large scale I should correct myself) then Pollock must be a genius.

Now let's see the opposite where someone who works more like Pollock tries to paint like a competent painter.

>>2033690
>Dan Luvisi
You're an alright guy

>>2033701
>there are more important things to study than art
I didn't say that specifically. I said there are more important things to study than modernist art.

>ad hominem
Read the responses of the one I'm responding to and see which one actually uses ad hominem. If you're referring to the first sentence of the respective paragraph, I think it's indeed important to point out this general vice in modernist way of thought. This whole [I'm more well read than you and you probably aren't (in this particular field) because you don't agree with me] type of elitism.
>take your little bitch fit somewhere else.
Projection.

>>2033682
>Modern art
>Gained mass appeal

check your facts, talentless hack.

>>2033644
>stop trying to make a fool out of me, child.
why cant you just argue like a normal person

>All of the "pretentious aesthetics slave" shit flinging in this thread

Hurr art's only good if eet's purdy!

>>2032229

>>2033728
For all the elitist condescending flowery hatred towards faggy art students, its pretty silly to hear you talk about projection.

>>2033625
Dat dude staring at the ass be mirin as fuck

>>2033812

What, praytell, makes a painting "good" if not its aesthetic?

It's always the same with you faggots, every single time. Lots of vague aspersions about how anyone who doesn't agree with you is a tasteless prole... but never any specific metric of value. You can't tell me why Piss Christ is so great, or why Picasso was a genius, or why Pollock's work is better than any other random paint spatters. All you can offer is sophistry and pretentiousness.

>>2033672
>Art stopped evolving after a bunch of talentless degenerates took over, thinking their feelings were more important than their content, skill or effort. Sounds familiar?

While I am always striving to have both my feelings as well as craft in my work, If I could only choose one I would always pick my feelings.

I would rather be able to express myself then have mad good hand skills.

Pic unrelated.

>>2033959
Jews are visually retarded, it's like trying to debate literature with an illiterate. But they're good with language and bullshitting

R.H. Quaytman

>>2033975
>I would rather be able to express myself then have mad good hand skills.
Too bad many people with that mindset label themselves as "artists".
Many serial killers "expressed themselves" through their victims.

Art is whatever you pass it off to be. Good art is subjective to each person who views it. Arguing about which art you believe is better than others is self-centered, masturbatory, and egotistical, which is actually a good description of the art world as it is anyways.

Some people draw dicks to draw dicks. Some people draw dicks to make people think about dicks. Some people see the dicks and are moved, some are enraged, others aroused. Some may accept the dicks for the dicks they are, others will contemplate the meaning BEHIND the dicks.

But in the end it's all dicks, man.

Art is dicks.

dis meme sold for like 4k i think

>>2033983
epic jew meme

>>2033959
>I can't look shit up by myself

>>2034003
>Comparing murder to making expressive art
Really?

>>2034036
Disgusting jew detected

Green White by Ellsworth Kelly.

Sold for $1.6 Million.

http://artsalesindex.artinfo.com/asi/lots/3521291

>>2034053
LMAO JEWS

>>2034056
That ain't even a good circle god dammit woman draw from your shoulder

>>2034052
Well, isn't art about expressing yourself? That's what you're defending.

>>2034085
Please, consider using a bit of common sense before posting

>>2034124
>Common sense
>Art
Where's the common sense in Pollock's paintings?

>>2034056
Why don't countries exploit this by making shitty art to pay debts? Just drain the rich people's bank accounts.

>>2034137
The rich didn't get rich by being stupid. There is a reason they are bidding so high for shitty art.

Thread went to shit. You should realize, guys, that fighting over each other's opinions is futile, stupid, egotistical and a tremendous waste of one's time.

>>2033975
>Suck at art
>"But I am only expressing myself!"

Just like I am only expressing myself and muh feelings when I get lazy and smash a keyboard instead of trying to play music.

>>2033998
Yawn...

>>2034052
Too late, comparing modern art with the building of a bridge was by far the worst analogy in this thread, you can't top it.

>>2034028
Do you know why I hate you modern art fags? because you do not actually like something, you just pretend to so you can look hip and cool, maybe deep. You are a big fraud, and only gullible idiots will fall for your shit. I respect everyone's taste, even when they like soemthing I don't like, but when you pretend to find a stupid mess a work of a master then you are nothing but a fraud. And some people like dicks, nobody likes a black frame.

>>2034056
Well that's because its masterfully done like a bridge, lel!

>>2034137
Modern art is more about marketing and popularity than merit, it is hard to get a lot of exposure and money from hipsters if you live far away from them

>>2034181
Thread went to shit, not because people start to argue, but because someone posted this: >>2032237 non ironically.

>>2034170
Some rich people are very stupid.

You can give $ 100,000 to one person and in a few years that person will make a million of it.

Meanwhile, you can give 10 million to another person, and that person will spend everything in cars, houses, parties and of course, shitty modern art someone convinced them is worth millions of dollars.

Some people are money makers, others are gullible money fountains.

>>2034237
No, that person posted art they like. That's what this thread is for. The thread went to shit because retards like you started proudly spewing uninformed opinions and antisemitic remarks because someone has different tastes than you. Just fuck off already and deal with it.

>>2034252
>because someone has different tastes

>Modern art "fans"
>Actually liking something

Please...

>>2034252
>being butthurt over antisemitic statements made on 4chan

>>2034237
>Modern art is more about marketing and popularity than merit
This. [/pointless discussion]

>>2034257
See, you claim to be ok with people liking what you don't like. But when they actually do like something you don't, you claim that they don't really like the work, and are just pretending. Do you see how closed-minded and retarded this is.
>>2034260
Just shows how biased and small-minded these modern art bashers are.
>>2034266
This is true for some artists, mostly contemporary, like Hirst, Warhol, Richard Prince, etc., but not modern art generally. Cezanne, Van Gogh, Degas, de Kooning, Kandinsky, et al were admired because people liked the work they produced. It's like you watched "the Mona Lisa curse" but didn't understand any of it.

>>2034285
>See, you claim to be ok with people liking what you don't like.
I'm not him, dude. Just relax and stop taking this too seriously. Different strokes for different folks.

>>2034285
>When they actually do like something

See? You are lying again, why do you do this? Tell people garbage is deep and daring? does making a fool out of people give you pleasure or something?

>Do you see how closed-minded and retarded this is.

Do you know what is even more retarded? garbage, also known as "modern art".

>>2034285
I'll take you more seriously once you stop being a filthy disgusting jew.

>>2034293
you really think this pic related is garbage? I happen to like Degas and many other modern artists.

>>2034299
And I'll never take you seriously.

>>2034293
>deep and daring
never said that. take pollock for instance, (someone asked earlier what's "common sense" about pollock). He isn't trying to be deep, there's no esoteric message, his work is what you see. Paint on a canvas. No outside referent, narrative, representational subject matter, no 2deep4u message. It's all about the aesthetic experience of paint dripped, drizzled, and splashed across a giant canvas. what could be more 'common sense' than that? you like it or you don't, but you can't criticize it for being some lofty shit that it isn't trying to be.

>>2033274
for fucks sake, you could have picked a better abstract artist than kandinksy

>>2034319
I like him. If you prefer another artist you're free to post their work and stop whining.

>>2034309
We both know that is not the type of modern art I am talking about.

>>2034318
Now that's some garbage. Burns my eyes and could be made by a 5 year old.

>>2032331
Out of everything Otomo has drawn for Akira you picked that?

>>2034327
>judging a pollock by a thumbnail
the experience of the work is the main thing, there's a reason he emphasized texture and scale. and it's been proven that the 'my kid could make that' argument is bullshit, but keep spouting it whenever convenient.
>We both know that is not the type of modern art I am talking about.
so learn to talk. fucking educate yourself. you're bound to shoot back with "hurr durr elitist must read books to understand modern art", but that's not what I'm saying. the sort of education I'm talking about could be gleaned from just a few hours on google or wikipedia. if you mean a particular kind of modern art, then learn the name of it so we can have an actual discussion and not have to watch you stumble over words.

>>2034330
bacon is the shit

>>2034335
>it's been proven that the 'my kid could make that' argument is bullshit

It has also been proven a chimp can make it as a modern artist, or garbage artist.

>if you mean a particular kind of modern art, then learn the name of it so we can have an actual discussion and not have to watch you stumble over words.

Garbage art have many different types and names, but in the end it can be universally seen as garbage, not everyone will admit it, though. There is no reason to memorize every single name they gave it, so I call it what it is.

>>2034342
no actual scientific studies were done, some dude just managed to fool a handful of people with chimp art. that's not "proof".

and again you take pride in your ignorance
"hurr durr all garbage"
I know a lot about movements I don't particularly like, they still play a role in art history and affect subsequent movements. but learning the difference between modern and contemporary, or modern and abex, or abex and de stijl, is a very small matter.

you could literally learn this shit on wikipedia in a solid hour, there's no excuse for being so willfully ignorant.

>>2034347
Like I already said...

>If I start to catalog pieces of shit, does that mean it is worth remembering the names I gave them?

>>2034349
please post your work. I really want to see what someone this dumb actually creates at the easel.

>>2034352
Here.

>>2034354
yeah, I kinda figured you're just a professional troll who's never made a painting in his life. call it a hunch.

>>2034356
>Not seeing how much of a genius I am for painting that.

Pathetic, go study some artistic movements from the past so you can see it.

>>2034357
c'mon bb, stop trolling for just 5 minutes. I'll show u mine if u show me urs.

This is my faavorite art, right here. Aint that the finest, aint that the best. now puffy say he got art but puffy aint got art like I got art.

Max Ernst

>>2033137
Yeah, I always thought it looked really nice, but when I saw that it was titled Fog Warning (I think) it adds a whole new level to it.

>>2034395
holy shit this is like a fever dream

>>2034333
trips speak the truth.

dear /ic/,
this may be a weird question, but exactly why isnt this board pretentious? this isnt supposed to be an insult or a compliment, so please dont be offended, but EVERY other board is pretentious to some degree.
/v/ only likes EXTREMELY well made video games with cutting edge graphics
/mu/ only likes semi avant garde slightly experimental artsy music
/lit/ only likes highest forms of literature and character studies
hell, even /ck/, a board about FOOD is more pretentious than you guys.
so what gives? why are you all so... well, normal.

>>2034682
/ic/ is super pretentious, but it's also filled with a constant influx of newbies who have bad taste, hence the constant arguing

>>2034682
/ic/ has its own shitty quirks. hang around long enough and you'll spot them.

/ic/ also has a mildly more realistic view of itself than other boards. For instance pictured here is how /ic/ generally views itself, the personification of the board. D/ic/k. /ic/-tan. A fat, gross, angry ginger-slob.

/v/ and the other boards-tans tend to be more flattering. I think the only other board with a self-depreciating-tan is /b/.

>>2034705
We used to be pretentious.. Most everyone that was good left. Now /ic/ has too many nsfw, digital art, and beginner threads. I used to come here to learn every day. But now its dead, because people from /b/ came over saying. "hey i can doodle!" and all the good guys left. including me. Fuck 4chan, I don't want to post my art for murders pedophiles and rapists to view... RIP /ic/

>>2034838
> all the good guys left.
> including me.

chumbum get the fuck out

>>2034705
yeah I remember those, were good times where ic was a lot more chill. and by a lot more I do mean a fucking lot. It was so much more proactive than today, in the sense that a lot of people helped each other. redlines were common. today it's rare to see one. Threads were actually usefull.

there's drawthreads on every other boards, and the more frequent they become the more some people will like it and end up here. same with the sakimi wave. it was still acceptable around 2 years ago. today the level on ic is just too low.

>>2034855
it's true though, and by leaving I think it's safe to say some are still lurking. if you posted before you would most likely get constructive and honest feedback, not a toxic one. I rarely post some doodles myself, but I'll never post a finished stuff in here just because most artists wouldn't like to be associated with /ic/, me included.

>>2034333
>having a "favorite piece"
I like everything

>>2033719
no

>>2032972

I always think the face looks so derpy and cartoony.

>>2033073

was that made by Oh!great ? style looks very similar.

>>2032229

>>2035308
no

>>2035312
why no?

>>2035318
not that anon, but it's kinda mediocre and we can only assume you posted it because you own it. lots of better realistic portraiture out there

One of my favourites, i think it's called metropol, too bad i couldn't find a better pic

>>2035340
Nevermind, found a better pic

>>2033198
Picketh ye rosebuds while ye may


Great picture and beautiful portrayal in my opinion, Waterhouse is a real idol for me

>>2035355
this is bad, art-wise (poorly painted) and message-wise (depressing/suicidal)

anon are you ok? do you need help?

>>2035283
I dig this one

No idea why I like it, I just do.

>>2032972
>>2032972
This is one of my favorite paintings. The face of the Saturn has so much to say. His face is a mixture of savage hunger with a hint of self hatred. It's as if he's compeled to consume the torso due to his monstrous temperament yet the remaining shread of humanity is apparent on his face in a look of shock and dread. He's forced to feed yet he loathes the necessity of it.

I'll probably be mocked, but my papa took me every other weekend to Louvre. We would always ended up in the great gallery, looking at mona lisa. She kinda became my favourite when I was a kid, probably for being super popular. I guess the nostalgia makes up for today tastes...

>>2037077
Great, now I'm sad...
I miss papa. And I certainly miss being a spoiled rich kid living in Paris...

>>2034838
>>2034894
It's funny how every fucking board has this good old days whinny complaints.
Every fucking board

>>2036179
this guy always amazed me. his sense for colour, form, dynamic gestures, atmosphere and above all, his humour
I like this drawing of van gogh more than anything done by van gogh

>>2037079

maybe cause you weren't here in the good days. now the cancer and mikufags threads are your norm. enjoy it without improving. you probably have that shitty level too.

>>2037087

Love this one, it makes me sad that a green blob sells for probably more.

>>2035172
Your wrong. It's a guilt riddened fave of shock and horror.

>>2037306
Face*

>>2032972
Was actually going to post this.

I'll go for the other Goya I really enjoy.

>>2037327
Whoops, wrong file. Disasters of War is amazing though.

I can definitely think of stuff I like MORE, but out of stuff I've found recently nobody's impressed more than Zak Smith.

>>2034354
I really like how even though the green is a part of the grey, it turns itself inside out to become something different than itself. I like that the black network allows each figure to connect like mycelium. 11/10

>>2037436
wow so pawerful scenery

>>2032951
lol m8 rly

>>2037089
I've been on 4chan for...shit, almost a decade now.

There were never any good old days except for like, the first WEEK a board opened.

> no jim lee anywhere

dunno if already posted.

>>2037519
what is this snakeshit

>>2033654
There's no cure for jungle fever, son. You're only hope is to be smothered in brown butts.

>>2034028
gay...

>>2035350
blatantly pedo

>>2040132
>projecting

>>2040141

>>2040152
all I see is some loving father-son time :^)

>>2032229

>>2033585
Literally the only reason he was successful was because of his relation to Sigmund. That's the only reason people put a "psychological" label on his paintings.

Don't mistake me for someone that doesn't like his work, but there is no doubt that his success came from his name

>>2040421
Dude that is so wrong. His paintings are incredible and unique, and it's not like his name magically made him successful...he really only achieved success fairly late in life anyways.

I suggest taking a look into his oeuvre and life a bit more deeply before making statements like you are. His work is really remarkable and it is cheap to try to pass off his place in history as being the result of his name.

>>2040421
that's the most unsupported jelly bullshit I've ever read. his work has links with german expressionism, which also emphasizes psychological aspects. It's his handling of the figure and not his pedigree that leads to the "psychological" characterization of his work. And like the other anon said, he didn't get mad famous until after he achieved mad skill, a little research goes a long way in understanding an artist's trajectory.

>>2035340
We viewed this in our art history a few days ago

>>2041392
Damn, I really like this.

>>2033137
>>2034411
thanks

>>2041392
looks like cary grant and anne hathaway

lets get some variety in here

I feel this painting in my guts whenever I look at it.

>>2042244
When I look at that painting, I think it is a nice set of colours and textures: good decoration. The title makes it art to me. I will never be a professor of art :(

>>2042244
It looks creepy, gross and shitty like all of his other paintings.

crystals1986.deviantart.com circa the early 20th century.

.

>>2043226
that is actually a really interesting comparison

>>2037107
\m/

>>2034266
\m/ x 2

2 many 2 pick
should I make a .zip of what I have currently? It's all totally random cool shit I find on the internet

I really don't know why I like this so much.

>>2033289
Does projecting make you feel smart?

>>2043429

yes i would download this if youre still here, would love to flick through it

have one of my favourite arts as payment

>>2032850
She looks so...soft... That's beautiful. Who painted this?

>>2032229

>>2043438

>>2043826
this boring-ass painting of dead-eyed kids reading a book is your favorite art?

>>2043226
He made this when he was 16. Post your work and lets compare your technical skills.

>>2043830
>dead-eyed

how the fuck are they "dead-eyed"?

My favorite piece of his

Even bigger:

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Francisco_de_Goya_-_Still_Life_with_Golden_Bream_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg

>>2043826
I just looked him up. There's some really nice stuff in there.

>>2032256
>1872

>>2032940
that picture is sinful. but fucking hell i love it.

>>2043438
Whoa, what

>>2044503
>>2044503
Horey sheet who dat artist?

>>2043826
kawaii calf

>>2044556

agostino arrivabene

>>2044212
that guy is so cool

>>2044659
>dat shitty waterfall

what is gravity

>>2044729
>what is surrealism

>>2044789
So surreal man, can't handle it.

>>2044814
Yeah, it is surreal, and it seems like you can't handle it. Why are you still posting?

Favourite art?
Dunno, Michaelangelo's? I don't think i can choose just one artist or work.
>>2032972
>>2037327
>>2037332
Goya is also very good

>>2044913
I love Michelangelo, he's one of the most influential painters and sculptors ever, but "David" is a disaster.
>Gives adolescent David a 20 year old's body
>Puts a huge motherfucking head on him to try to give him more child-like proportions
>Anatomically fucks up the head
I saw it in Florence and it still looked silly.

>>2045288
the large head and hands were intentional, the statue is massive and was meant to be placed much higher than it currently is (on top of a cathedral), so that viewers would need to view it from below. the large head and hands counter the distortion of this perspective.

I'm just leaving this here.

Love this.

>>2045342

That's definitely some art historian's pet theory, not verifiable historical fact. Why would Michelangelo only make the head and hands bigger? In perspective, you'd still need to make the arms/neck/chest bigger, too, to keep the proportional relationships right, or the head and hands would still look too big. And why would Michelangelo want to "correct" for perspective, anyway?

I don't buy that theory, personally. It sounds good at first, but the more you think about it, the less sense it makes.

>>2033975
expression is a one way street then ?
pic related

>>2032951
bouguereau mostly painted little girls, often nude and is creepy as fuck

>>2033073
get out.

>>2034318
>what you see is what you get

okay, that's beautiful, but it still doesn't explain why his art is on the pedestal it's been placed on. Why is this a master work? I saw this at the high and felt nothing, but a few months later saw diego rivera's huge communist mural they had, and I stared at that for well over half an hour. There was a lot that was being presented to the viewer, and it was very enjoyable to "read" what he was saying. I'm not saying Rivera is the best artist, but that mural was engaging for me. If Pollock's is simply paint on a canvas, why bother? I've dropped a paint can before, so that isn't a new "aesthetic experience"

>>2045899
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Palacio_de_Bellas_Artes_-_Mural_El_Hombre_in_cruce_de_caminos_Rivera_4.jpg

This is the mural I'm talking about. Again, I'm not claiming this is masterful or the best thing, but it caught my eye and held me and my friend for a good 30-40 minutes

>>2045901
http://totallyhistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Man-Controller-of-the-Universe-by-Diego-Rivera.jpg

This one isn't cropped

>>2045899
I've seen Rivera's murals in Detroit, and also saw 1A at the High. I thoroughly enjoyed both. I felt that Pollock also had a lot being presented to the viewer, and I enjoyed engaging the work. What he presents just isn't narrative or representational, it is paint on canvas but still has an emotional quality and a physicality that are interesting in themselves.

Different strokes for different folks.

>>2045689
Well said.
The first time you hear that theory it makes sense because you have no context.
The only thing I believe may be true is that he didn't care too much about the anatomy/details of the head since it was going to be viewed from far away.

>>2046007
I guess I'm just too literal to fully appreciate nonrepresentational stuff. I look at it for a minute and I feel like I've gotten all that there is for me to get from it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ oh well

>>2045689
I think it's more that the head and hands are supposed to be the focal points, and he had to put extra emphasis on them because of it's distance from the viewer

>>2032630
I like special perspectives/depth too.
It's so underated holy shit.

>>2033686
The picture the guy you replied to is not even a Pollock, anon