/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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>>2031079
lmao so le edgy xDD

>>2031079
>ANYTHING NOT PURE REALISM IS ANIME/TUMBLRCRAP MUH ELITISM

enjoy dying angry

>>2031047
forgot to use your trip fgt.

>>2031047
Why is all the color so washed out? Also no hard edges to be found. I'm assuming it's a selfpost since you're the only one who spreads your art on here.

>>2031271
>>2031293
>it's a self post

Even if it was, whatever is OP is not a big deal.

>>2031293
>why is the color so washed out
I ask that about every piece posted here.

Thanks OP, I hope the final thing doesn't end up being too horrid, this is what I have so far

>>2031293
I'm still working on it, also I'm not OP.

>> you're the only one who spreads your art on here.

Really m8? Do you really believe this?

FWIW I'm still a sorry noob, I've posted my fair share of embarrassing stuff hoping that someone can point out what I can't see, I don't see how that qualifies as self promotion.

>>2031047
>be 30 years old
>drawing anime
>not having already made it
this is a prime example of what you don't want to be

>>2031293
I might have an explanation for people with washed out colors. I've got two monitors and the colors between them when looking at the same picture are very different. One should always check how accurately their monitor will display colors.

>>2031452
i think it's just soft colors for a soft rendering dude

>>2031450
i don't think he's trying to make it. can't you tell from the subject matter that he's a programmer.

>>2031455
Maybe he is but I still thought that it would be good to inform others because the difference is there. I only happened to have find out by chance a few months ago. If one does a photo study with the photo on a bad monitor, the colors can be affected greatly.

>>2031459
>being a hobbyist is ok
sasuga neo /ic/

Dusting off the cobwebs - had to toss a couple dried out pens. I've been collecting refs and inspo for a while now. Have some Kate-fox figures and PPG faces.

Gonna go traditional for a while till I get some momentum back

how am i doing? trying to inch closer to anatomy while retaining some stylistic elements.

i was promised 20k $

>>2031588
stop reposting that shitty picture you fucking kreten

>>2031590
>kreten
wut

so jelly :^)

>>2031595
jelly? of this shit? please, i may envy Miles Johnston or Proko but your animaymay makes me laugh.

>>2031597
>i may envy Miles Johnston or Proko but your animaymay makes me laugh.
my fucking sides
lets see your work anon kun :3

>>2031601

>>2031601
>>2031606
:^)
git gud cancer boi

>>2031607
>>2031606
oh boi hahaha

>>2031461
> people who actually do something useful aren't allowed to draw!

>>2031459
He is a medical school dropout (nursing) who wants to be a musician.

>>2031590
>kreten
>not cretin
Blew all the steam out of yer argument there, sonny.

>>2031723
nah he's a programmer. in spirit if not in fact.

>>2031590
>kreten
Cretin. You illiterate fuck.

>>2031733
You must of missed the thread he doxed himself. Seriously, he went to Loma Linda. And his tumblr links to his vocaloid page.

Man, I want to be successful in life; just like Firez!

>>2031504

mmmm bby :9

Hopefully these threads aren't considered to be just for anime, since that's mostly what I see around here...I've been putting a focus on simplifying/streamlining designs lately so critique on this would be cool.

Feel like my colours were everywhere and there's not enough contrast. I put a multiply layer on orange and this is how it is so far.

>>2032316
> just adding an orange multiply layer
What program are you using?

>>2032316
Multiply reduces contrast by definition

>>2032355
PS
I added a layer on multiply and coloured it orange.

>>2032362
Yeah, my art school friends says colour were not as uniform before. This is how it looks like now

>>2032376
If you're in PS I'd reccommend going into color balance first if your colors are what concern you. If you wanted to unify the colors towards a certain one, I'd use a different filter, multiply only deals with the shadows of your image primarily.

>>2032394
No, do you even know why it's called multiply? Because it MULTIPLIES the colors of the two layers (represented on a scale of 0 to 1 per channel). So brighter colors are more affected by it (0.5 * 1 = 0.5, delta 0.5) whereas darker colors are less affected by it (0.5 * 0.1 = 0.05, delta 0.05).

>>2032403
Deleted my post because you're right and I'm really autistic, sorry.

How's muh style???

>>2032441
tumblrnose/10

>>2032441
>diff-style.jpg

youre obviously not good enough to have developed what you think of as a style yet. Stop practicing styles and learn fundies

>>2032454
This is what I normally paint like, I just wanna make dat tumblr/patreon money.
Less work=more money ecks dee

>>2032546
>>2032441
they both look pretty gross.
i bet that second girl is you, too.

>>2032549
h- how'd you know?

>>2032554
because you posted it as an attempt to prove that you have solid technical skills, but the second picture is equally unimpressive. Being a beginner, you couldnt differentiate between the quality of the two very well. The girl in the picture also looks like a typical Tumblerina, which is the face i associate everyone on this goddamn board with. Girl in photo also looks like someone who would take the time to do a detailed portrait of themselves, I'd guess that you maybe also have a half-finished portrait of your friend laying around, or maybe a drawing of a single eye with something about it being a "study". The coy "over the shoulder" shitty shortcut with the oh-so-artistic paint drops. Probably have a snapchat or tumblr or whatever with a sketchbook drawing with a pencil or pen draped over it and a softening filter.

That headband/hipster glasses combo make you look like a douchebag.

this is all from the post and pictures though, i dont know you.

Mine, started out last week so it's still shitty

>>2032564
TOLD/10

>>2032546
>I just wanna make dat tumblr/patreon money.
that's your problem you slime.

>>2032564
I'd probably hang out with that person you described. I get that I'm not amazing at painting and everything, but that painting was a commission for that girl. She is a Tumblerina girl though.

>>2032579
Yeah :/

Damn, I've lurked here for years and I finally try to post something and get put directly in my place. Listening to people who already like my stuff isn't good for me. I don't really want to say thank you, but... yeah.

I need some serious perspective help if anyone's up for it

>>2032598
why would you ever voluntarily hang out with anyone like that.
your "other work" is equally SJW tumblrina crap man

ew/10
seriouslyew/10

>>2032639
The back wheels are messed up
and the upper thing on the front side has its center line in the wrong position. And parallel stuff should have the same vanishing point but doesn't,
The rest is OK though, there's not a lot of perspective going on

>>2032663
And yes I realize that the upper thing is slanted, it's still wrong

>>2032646
>your "other work" is equally SJW tumblrina crap man
Yeah, that's kinda the point though. That's where I upload this stuff.

I've never seen so much misinformation about me on a single thread. It is quite amusing

Man....I really feel ashamed about these wips, :/

However, I do feel this is a better try

>>2032546
I like your colors here, it would look better with a proper texture.

I've never seen so much misinformation about me on a single thread. It is quite amusing

Man....I really feel ashamed about these wips, :/

However, I do feel this is a better try

>>2032546
I like your colors here, it would look better with a proper texture.

>>2032712
Dude just keep doing what you're doing my nigga.

>>2032712
You know something I've noticed about you is when you start something usually your first attempts look much better and more pleasant than your final products, just look at the thumbnail in the OP and the thumbnail you just posted.

Try not to over do it

>>2032695
so you draw normally but come to /ic/ to post shitty tmblr art.

greaaaattt. fucking doubt it

>>2032751
What do you mean by normal?

>>2032755
dont ask bitchy loaded questions like that. read the post and ask him what he means by normal

>>2032712
The colors in this >>2031441
is much more better

just grab that image and set it to "saturation" layer mode on photoshop and overlay it to your image lol

>>2032737
Thanks I've noticed that too, but for this one and some others I can´t help but feel the previous ones are atrocious, even the latest iteration is starting to seem horrid.

>>2032776
I will attempt that. Thanks!

I resumed this one because someone asked me about it and for some tips over FB.

>>2032714
That´s the plan mane, thanks!

>>2032737
That's surprising, I mean I have noticed it on some cases, but this one seems particularly bad on early and even current iterations, in other pieces, at this point all the elements would start to take a proper shape.

Thanbks for the feedback

>>2032776
I might try that, thanks!

I resumed this one because someone asked me about it and it also has helped me to get some relief from this wreck.

its been a while since i picked up my drawing pen, but r8 my style

will post more if requested

also this is a jpeg because otherwise the file size would be too large sorry

>>2032306
It seems to be, even the stylization thread doesn't dare walk past naturalism's shadow into iconography.

>>2032306
Everything looks nice, except I think the head feels a tiny bit big. The more I look at it though, the less it feels that way, so I don't know. I'd say maybe make that mouth scar a bit more distinct, as it is I hardly noticed it existed.

>>2032817
2/10 style at most.
100% serious the trashy "xD so randum" stoner art needs to stop already

>>2032817

This.>>2032875
I really want you all to just stop. This only works if you know rules and basics about visual art. Your piece is so distracting and there is nothing "pleasing" about it. Sure, it's got drugs, devil signs, nazi symbol, and random shits thrown at all over the place to make it "shocking", but this is not aesthetically pleasing at all. You have to be really professional and have to know what you are actually doing to pull this kind of stuff. Now, go finish that blunt and play some Call of Duty.

>>2032817
If shit is your taste, then yeah, nice style.

Found some colored pencils in my art box, tried some new stuff trying to emulate Jake Parker. He sketches in colored pencil first, inks with pocket brush pen, then does light coloring with markers.

The guy is some kind of genius. The process felt really smooth. Graphite and copics don't play well together, but CP + copics seem to do fine. Also, the underlying sketch can barely be seen under the inks. I think I'll play with this technique for a little bit - digital can go fuck itself

>1-2 Copied some mechs from my master Jake Parker - testing his techniques
>3 is like 40%OC, but heavily reffed from JPs mech
>4 saw some bot girl model on Pinterest. The little shinies look like someone hot glued her in the ass oh well...

>>2032546
>>2032598
I like your color choices and brushes since I really such at colors and all, but your art looks off at some parts, especially the lower face. Maybe try to make the lips less defined.

Anyway I think that receiving harsh critique and not getting praised all the time can really help. Sure it can demotivate you and make you want to kill yourself, but hey, at least you'll get better that way if you survive.

>>2033157
>I really such
Suck*

I guess I am blind, I didn't see this thread.... The one I started will probably 404 really quickly, so i'll post this here

I need advice on my current drawing. I just finished the sketch for my Shirobako tribute drawing, and I need some more eyes to look at it and maybe point out any horribly obvious problems that I missed.

Also I can't figure out the perspective on the feet... I may just have them cropped off in the digital rendering, though it would be nice to figure it out.

The character is Aoi Miyamori, if you want to google references

I'm pretty sure the perspective on the doughnut is off, but I'm not too concerned about that, since it's an easy fix.

>>2033161
try flipping your image horizontally

>>2033165
Woah. I always forget that this is a technique.
The eye on the left is way off, i think the head needs centered on the shoulders a bit more. Other than that, maybe I should look at the perspective on the contour of the bottom of the skirt?

>>2033165
>>2033172

So I fixed those things. Any other obvious mistakes I'm missing?

>>2033177
You aren't using construction correctly. The facial features are all over the place. The neck isn't attached to the torso correctly (you can see the glaring shift of the neck yourself) and it's too wide. The torso is wrong the clavicle is spaced out too far away from the pit of the neck to the sternum. And so if you know the torso is wrong you definitely got the proportion of the arms wrong and hand is too short. The legs are broken as well.

Basically use volumes to build the figure next time, that would be a start.

>>2033161
I wonder why no one mentioned the hands yet.

>>2033188
I started off with a gesture from a pose reference then deformed it a bit.
Every time I've tried mechanical constructions of characters, they've always ended up looking stiff..

I wanted to make the pose dynamic, which might constitute a fair amount of leg-breaking, but I guess there's a balance between stylized and wrong, that I need to reach?

I was also trying to go with more of a minimal line for the clavical, but I can try bringing them closer.

I was trying to go for a slightly top-down perspective as well, which might be why the torso looks so off? Any tips?

Alright, so i brought one of the legs in, made the hands larger, straightened out the neck, and edited the lines on one of the eyes.

>>2033188
The dot next to her mouth is supposed to be a crumb, not a dimple or something. I just took it off for now though, to help with construction visual.

So I changed the positioning of the clothing on her torso, maybe that helps?

>>2033209
Nothing you will do will save it. You are repairing a house with no foundation underneath.

>>2033218

I can just keep trying to redraw it, but I doubt I would learn much from it...

I would rather try to identify exactly what went wrong, and try to fix it.

Do you think constructing the drawing with various shapes (circles, cylinders, etc) would be better than using a pose reference?

From what I've seen, constructing figures like that always causes them to look stiff, and generated, rather than flowing and dynamic.

>>2033218
Also I've probably spend a total of 15 minutes on this sketch so far.. Erasing more than half of it is not a problem for me.

>>2031753
I like the guy on the left. The right is a little toooooo extreme for me

>>2032568
Edgy, "push the values more" looks like a face from attack on Titan

>>2032811
What is that thing in the BG? Is that a fish licking the back of its head?

>>2033199
Sometimes for top down perspectives you can draw a box in perspective, then draw the character in the box.

It's obvious, but I'll say it anyways, gestures will help loosen up your figures

I'd finish this one up quickly, then start on another drawing

>>2033218
How would I go about successfully creating the pose?

>>2033230
I'm not that anon, but for pose construction I found that you can't really turd polish it like the way you can over render.

With more practice your poses will become more natural and you will construct them unconsciously.

One thing you might want to try is just redrawing the figure 4-5 times instead of erasing it. Then you can cross compare all the figures and pick the one that feels the most fluid. It's kind of like stochastic drawing. Otherwise, It will be hard to learn proper figure construction from just one figure.

>>2033270
Cool, how do you color it afterwards?

>>2033270
if the anatomy exageration was on purpose just ignore this

>>2033313
I don't know why but I always like this anon's art

>>2033320
It's the smooth belly and he knows exactly where to place the fatpads that give it the distinctive feminine look and touch.

>>2033270
STOP DESTROYING EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME.

>>2033245>>2033161

Thanks, that's actually good advice.

I did want to finish this one though... (I have way too many sketches that I did nothing with, and even though there's a lot wrong with this, it's a lot better than any of the previous anime stuff I've attempted. So here it is.

>>2033313
Am I suppose to be looking up at her chest or down at her head? Which is it? And why are the palms swollen?

>>2033348
Did you know you can look down at someone?

>>2033351
Do you know perspective?

>>2033161
>>2033172
>>2033177
resize your images a bit in the future. we don't need high resolution on a sketch. also few things wrong
>hands
>tongue doesn't come out at that angle
>jaw and facial constructions are very off
>collar bones don't look like that
>neck is at an odd angle
I believe if she's holding folders her shoulder should angle up more than the other side

>>2032712
push your values man

>>2033270
maybe this is cause I'm on a shit monitor or have shit taste. But are the white lines on her body and clothes supposed to be that jarring? personally think it would look better if it blended more.

>>2032830
Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by this. Could you elaborate?

>>2032861
I think it might be that the legs are too small, so it makes the head look too big? I'll play around with the proportions a bit. Thanks for the tips.

>>2033354
Not him but here's my try

>>2032928
Are we talkin' the shitty everyday colored pencils or Prisma-masterrace?

>>2033393
I have some PCs, but I think I ended up using Ticonderoga. I was planning on trying out the PCs tonight to see if they felt any different.

>>2033229
I'm just getting started, I've always been bad at value and color, I just can't figure it out, any tips?

>>2033378
If I can see the top of her head, how is it I can also see the under parts of her boobs?

>>2033530
because she's looking down you nitwit

>>2033530
You know what I had some trouble at first understanding what you meant until I tried to do the pose myself and there's no way you can look down far enough to see the top of the head.

>>2033534
What is that image supposed to prove? The vantage point is much higher there you would have an opportunity to see the top of the head there.

>>2033530
>>2033535
>>2033538

It's called a neck, were you born with a neck brace or something? I bet dropping a coin on the floor really sucks with your condition.
And if you don't notice that faggot's 'blueline' doesn't fit the image and is totally wonky.
Lern2perspective
Both redlines can't even pull off a cube geez

>>2033548
Your can only look down so far it is impossible to see the top of the head from that perspective you would see the forehead mostly.

>>2033534
>>2033535
The problem is that the head and torso aren't sharing the same horizon line. Even if she is looking down with her head tilted we shouldn't be able to see the whole top of her, if firstly we are viewing her from below. And judging how she has her chest popped out and we are seeing the under side of her breast, it appears we are looking up at her.

This one's a pretty good example, we can't see the bottom of the breasts but we can see the top of the head.

>>2033548
No, you fucking idiot. It doesn't matter how much she has her head tilted down. If we're looking up at her from below we shouldn't see the whole top of her head. Learn perspective, moron

>>2033571
You're wrong

>>2033582
You're cancer

>>2033582
Why have you posted that image like 3 times?

>>2033678
Because his mouth is full of dicks.

>>2033296
colour/hard light layers
>>2033313
thank you blueline-senpai, especially on her belly. i'll use it as a guideline
>>2033333
giant destructive lolis are the cutest though...
>>2033348
its supposed to be a gauntlet of sorts. i'll try to remove a bit of the top of her head to give the impression that its not visible from the top or something, quickly trying something here.

>>2033357
I'm starting to wonder if this is even a stylization thread. People are nitpicking anatomy that is supposed to be deformed or exaggerated.

Anime characters are cartoons, so they don't need to be 100% anatomically correct, they just need to be some-what accurate with feature placement.

Also what kind of advice is this?
>hands

The people who are giving advice on here don't know anything, or just are too lazy to give meaningful advice.

>>2033699
He didn't finish the hands.
but the main part is, anatomy isn't 100% correct but that mistakes he made were not stylistic choices. Having a "style" isn't an excuse to have wrong anatomy. Certain things are exagerated and that's fine but it doesn't change tongue placement, it doesn't make 1 side of your jaw longer, it doesn't make your neck grow out 3 inches to the side.
go back to your deviant art shit, style allows exaggeration but doesn't mean you can say fuck anatomy.

>>2033522
I am assuming this is you >>2032568
For values do some studies in gray scale, and use the full range of grays from black to white.

For colors, as most anon's say, don't shade with black, instead change the hue for shadow and highlights. Typically shadows are cooler, and highlights are warmer, but it really depends on the light sources.

Keep practicing, you'll get there.

>>2033338
I will say that this came out better than your original sketch.

Cleanup the lines next time you scan and threshold, they look a little pixeled

>>2032306

>>2033759
Interesting notes, thanks for your thoughts & for taking the time to draw it out. I'm actually not going for a super heroic look, more of an understated, grumpy loner type of thing. I'll consider the rest of the stuff you pointed out.

>>2033759
niggers tongue my anus

>>2033229
Some kind of monster with a fragmented face and yes it is licking its head, idk I thought I could pull that kind of creature

>>2033358
I like your values here, I also dig the scarcity of the palette which is something I´m aiming for, I just try to not push them too early in order to not mess up with some of the details that I would like to show up (ex: the face on the armor),

Someone stopped by to take a look at this wip, he really liked it but preferred it in this orientation and without the overlay layer coloring.

Stylization is hard

Got home kinda late not too much draw time - Still riding the mech train.
>1 Got a mech from JP - used prisma color pencil for sketch. Just a warmup
>2 found another mech on Pinterest. I should have used a blue pencil to sketch, the orange and blue look kinda gross, also went back to Ticonderoga.

Some technical oopsies
>I shaded too fast and forgot the light source. I figured out that you can plan the shading first with CP, but the damage had already been done.
>I also forgot that Sakura microns are better for detailing than the pocket brush - I got a bunch of chunky linework

I'll try again tomorrow.

Ticonderoga > prisma color, but only by a little bit.

>>2033740

yeah I used the pencil tool to trace the lines for making color easier with the paint bucket, I thought I could use blur to make the lines less pixelated with a Gaussian blur, but I probably should have just used a higher resolution image to make that work.

>>2033561
No, they do. The horizon line is near the head. You wrongly assume that we're looking up at her. Also, tilting.

>>2034047
Jesus fuck I almost made a new thread by accident. I freaked out and started spamming the delete button.

Anyways, I booted up my scanner for the first time and made a small robot scene, and now I'm done posting these guys - time to move on

>>2034359
Do you have a deviantArt?

>>2034047
I really like the one on the right. Especially his eye. Not too fond of the color scheme but everything else is looking good.

>>2034383
Sorry no DA only tumblr >>2022162 should I make a DA? Maybe I'll look into it. I already waste a lot of time cultivating tumblr...

>>2034393
Thanks, I'll try some more tonight. I'll push for some OC this weekend

I just finished this.

>>2031753
The guy on the left made me lolz

>>2034359
it's nice, i like it.
whats your blog or whatever?

>>2034496
No you didn't.

How do I know?
Coz it's shit.

>>2034496
The boob on the left kinda hovers there, apply more gravity to them. Also fix the shirt a little on the armpit because the boob looks weird there.

>>2034587
Whoa, really nice critique there man.

>>2034496
Her hair is built way too high to be drawn back into a pony tail. Or she has an enormous cranium.

The foreshortening of the arm on the left is borked. One way to improve on it is to make the opening of the sleeve at an angle facing the viewer, an open circle, as opposed to a narrow oval.

I also don't understand why the cloth is twisting up into her armpit, like it was pinned there or something. The folds around there usually radiate from the pit, not fold over it.

>>2034592
>>2034612

I see it now. Thank you guys.
I'll work in that.

>>2034564
It's over here >>2022162

>>2034587

better put some ice on that sick burn

printed a rough sketch to test out some Copic Markers for the first time, what do you guys think?

I know it looks messy I was experimenting with the blend brush to see how it works, it got some of my colors out of line, however over all I thought it was very fun and much faster than coloring digital.

I am heavily inclined to get some some day, I need to begin saving.

>>2034686
Why are there like three closeups of the same part of the drawing?

>>2031047
firez's faces always feel like a mr. potato head.

>>2034698
I dont have an oversized 2k$ scanner, so I decided to show how this piece works at different viewing levels so you can appreciate the details.

>>2034711
PS: this is a 11 by 17 paper.

>>2034711
>implying scanners even cost that much

>>2034701
Maybe at the beginning. His finished portraits are quite appealing imho.

>>2034711

>>2034715
>>2034718

uhm, nevermind I looked it up and you are totally right anon, there are cheaper ones, my bad. last time I checked was like 2 years ago.

for next time I'll just make the print smaller, no need to make something so big.

regardless, what do you think? I would appreciate some feedback

>>2034717
lol no

>>2034707
only sometimes does /ic/ impress me
bush details and rendering, as well as some more nuanced control over values, and this is nearly good to go. Extremely unique palette. also remember that the face is as 3d as the body

>>2034732
.

>>2034686
yes yes we get that youre very proud of the face.. where are the closeups of her shoes?

>>2034755
thanks
what do you mean that the face is as 3d as the body? how could i change it?

>>2034686
How did you test before you buy?

Looks pretty good, I like the colors, and the skin tones. Markers are a lot of fun. If you enjoyed your trial, then you should definitely get some.

Things to note
>your printer toner looks kind of low, go back with a pen to boost some of your linework in the darker areas. I do like some of the transparency on the print
>to keep the sweater from getting blotchy try to keep the whole region wet, and the color will blend into itself. Your speed makes a big difference for how much ink makes it onto the paper.
>alternatively, if you layer the same color over a region after it dries for a bit, you can make it darker. So you can give the sweater a little more form.

Enjoy your markers!

>>2031497
what's your end goal, do you want to be the next sushio or something?

>>2034764
Case in point.

>>2035067
he wants to become one with the table.

>>2034800
It's shit
Leave

>FiReZ
This faggot keeps on coming back, I finally thought he left for good.

>>2035333
You like him you know you do. Seriously who wouldn't like the guy he's an inspiration.

>>2034721
btw on scanners, even cheap ones can get really high dpi, I have a $50 scanner I got from walmart that can get up to around 1200 dpi which should be more than enough for anything you'll be needing

how do i fix this??? in easytoon

>>2035361
fuck off troll

>>2035333
>FiRez will die in your lifetime

>giving attention to attentionwhores
>samefagging

tableguy is credit to team

the rest of you need a time out

>>2034359
that is nice

>>2034686
i think that when you did the shirt, you were veryyyyy slow. When i draw with them, i go fast and think of it like doing a single wash (also called a flat wash) while using watercolor. Also you need to practice staying in the lines! very very cute drawing. Work on the shoes. I have so much trouble with them myself so if you find a veeeeerrrrryyyy good tutorial or something please let me know!! ^-^

>>2034808
the whole piece has the cool isometric perspective thing going on, his face looks somewhat 2d compared to the rest. You just have to think of it as forms in space (loomis) and depart from it being 2d marks on a picture plane. also consider the whole composition itself, i.e. where to place the cube kid on the page, what's around him, etc.

>>2031047

can anyone help me with supplies, i bought a cheap sketchbook and a charcoal pencil which cut carefully watching prokos videos. is the charcoal pencil required for a beginner ?

Update, took the bg out since it's for the prop design portion of my portfolio

The perspective still bugs me...

>>2034701
>>2035112
>>2035379
jealousy

>>2035857
Well the perspective still isn't correct at various places, you should avoid that next time by doing a correct construction first. I think among the biggest problems here is the entire top part, the ridges, the front of the top. I mean if you look at the back part, the top and bottom are clearly oriented in different directions, so it looks like the entire thing is twisted

can any object be considered art?

>>2035919
The Dada movement thought so.

>>2035929
ironic for the dada movement was an anti art movement

>>2035857
You left the design stage behind at a very early point. I literally have no clear idea what this cart is for, Is it for living in?
Is it expensive? Planks on the side says poor but decal and colors say expensive, Hand drawn says poor, Lamp says electrical and the ladels on the back says RV but there are no windows.

It's cute but I could't tell you what it is, Some sort of expensive wagon from a Asian country?
I can't tell what it is you are designing and thats a bigger flaw than the perspective.

>>2032639
thats not how shadows work. Since light is absent too some degree most of the light that will remain there comes from the reflection of nearby objects or visible objects such as the sky, which is why sometimes we get colored shadows

>>2034496
Please show me how you do hair I'm really liking it

Meh - it looked better inked before I colored it. For some reason, I had really bad pen control today. I kept slipping while inking and coloring... Whatever, I'm not too attached to this one. Moving on...

>>2035067
Ah didn't know sushio did KLK. I liked KLK, I guess that wouldn't be so terrible.

>>2035442
What team? And why is this thread so slow? I've made 4 drawing posts and the thread isn't dead yet. You guys should draw more - or maybe you are all drawing and just not on /ic/ - if so, then good for you

>>2035936

What's /asg/ opnion onpic related series of books?

I don't like manga but I want to pick it up because it boosts you when you want to get into porn comissions.

>>2035876
You got me bro, I really wish I could make slow progress and only draw uncanny weird semi-anime portraits from reference.

FiRez is a faggot through and through, and anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't been on this board long enough to witness his faggotry.
But hey, that's to be expected from tripfaggots right, but FiRez is a special kind of cunt. I legitimately hope he dies of throat cancer or something.

>inb4 u maddd

Fuck yeah I'm mad, Jesus Christ.

>>2032306
i think this design needs a tiny bit of warm color like orange in there to add some dynamism

>>2036085

I'm actually an oldfag but I don't get the hate he's been getting. Sure, he started a few draw threads with his own work and that's a little pompous perhaps but not a big deal imho. Why are you hating on him so hard?

>>2036088
It's the general self absorbed tripfaggotry that can be found across all boards, but I really started to hate when he made a draw thread with his trip on.
Somebody called him out and asked why he tripped.
He responded with a classic tripfag response along the lines of;
>because I can lollolollelele

Fair enough enough right, everybody has the right to be a faggot, but then some guy called him out on the fact that some people might not see this thread because they have him filtered, and he responded with pretty much
>lolololo not my problem bro

It was even worse than that, but that's the general gist of it.
That self absorbed narcissism is something I can't stand, just the way he replied.
Jesus fucking Christ, how can one grown man be this much of a faggot, did your dad beat you and lock you the closet or something holy fuck. This type of stuff can be found in most tripfaggots, but FiRez tripfaggorty just tickles me in the wrong way for some reason. It's like Tripfaggotry Supreme™.
It's the only thing on /ic/ that legitimately invokes negative emotions in me.

>>2036093
>getting uptight over trivial matters

lololololol, stay mad bro.

>>2036095
You just filter him right no stress right, except I can't because the cunt keeps making draw threads with his trip on.

>lololololol, stay mad bro.

Yeah, we've already established that I'm mad m8.

>>2036097

I think you should channel this vehement hatred into upping your productivity and art gains. It seems pretty potent.

>>2032564
damn son, u saltier than a peanut

>>2032928
>#4
her hips are facin slightly right, her ribs are reverse 1/4th away from viewer, her spin is kinna severed at this point, dog, unless you're goin for like robot like impossible posses in which case push it even farther to make it more obvious. also her left arm don't read too well.

>>2036108
I already do as much as I can, and I don't walk around with FiRez on my mind all day so there's not much anger to channel.

>>2035935
it was mostly anti-war.
only a handfull of dadaists were anti-everything. and that everything was art.

>>2035935
anti-[the contemporary art world for their time] movement

>>2036058

Nothing wrong with them they are just outdated.

>>2036093
I agree but most tripfags obviously have personal issues, I mean legit ones. Why would anyone be such an attentionwhore to put a trip on on a board where everyone else is anonymous after all?

>>2035936
Good point. It's supposed to be a merchant's caravan, like pic related. It stores medicines and smokeables for my Ironclaw character.

>>2035967
Thanks, I will keep that in mind next time. Might just scrap this idea at this point

>>2036055
Literally huh?

>>2035857
looks like something out of fable series.

>>2036135
What would be a less outdated/more recent example of a good animu/mango tutorial book? Do artists even make them anymore?

>>2036160
how to draw moe

Havent drawn animu in 2 months, havent really drawn anything really
What did I fuck up the hardest?
Arm to long?
Cheek bones to high?
Eyes have no depth?

>>2036183
>>2036181
>>2036160
https://yande.re/forum/show/10527

>>2036186
Is this a joke?

>>2036187
>looks like they have downs
Yep, seems pretty accurate for moe.

>>2036187
wrong book
there should be a few others

>>2036085
>>2036093
L-leave Firez alone!

>>2036085
chill anon
I don't know much about Firez because I don't go to the animu threads alot, but like every other trip or xfag, we can give him advice. If he lashes out or doesn't show improvement, we can ignore him. Remember: ignoring is the worst thing you can do to an attention whore.
1)someone does something bad
2)call him a faggot
3)ignore
4)keep ignoring
5)if a newfag comes in, just tell him to ignore
6)ignore
7)???
8)profit

Also there's always going to be regulars, trips, or whatever you want to call them in generals. whether that be videogames or drawing.

>>2036272
Firez is not an attention whore, it is clear that success sparks jealousy among others as Firez not only learns to draw at an incredible rate he is also a musician, is learning different languages, has a growing fanbase and on top of it all he does this despite the hardships he endures due to his current location.

If you can not see that faggots such as >>2036085
>>2036093
are either incredibly butt devastated or maybe they have a peculiar attraction to someone who they know nothing of do this as a form to get the attention of said person you need to understand that.

Most likely they just have that peculiar attraction, like that one kid who used to pull your hair or poke you to get a reaction out of you it's the same principle.

>>2036284
If this board is jealous of Firez then the quality of this place really has dropped. The fuck did you guys do to the skilled anons that this is all you have left?

>>2036290
Another thing you need to understand that this board is comprised of mostly females, and when a female starts to have a form of competition the following things occur:

shitstorms ensue, feelings get hurt, drama escalates, gossiping and lies are spread, trivial arguments over nothing start, and an attempt to exhaust and burn out anyone who is a competitor emotionally.

>>2036293
>is comprised of mostly females,
Except it isn't, judging from the surveys, Tumblr/Deviantart, etc.

Guys are well capable of gossiping over trivial shit and drama, as much as you'd hate to admit it buddy.

>>2036299
Hence the reason why I keep calling you all faggots.

>>2036307
Yes, but at least get your statistics correctly. You'd have to be a newfag or some shit to actually think /ic/ is mainly female, let alone half.

Oh, how I want to be as successful as Firez!

>>2036310
No, you're all a bunch of females. Men can be worse than a room full of females, you've all earned that description.

>>2036312

I'm mostly jealous of his incredible rate of progress.

>>2036313
You shouldn't be acting/thinking like that past middle school.

Really, do grow up. I am saying this in a genuine way and not for the sake of being offensive.

>>2036313
>men
>"females"
Clearly you meant to hit /r9k/, not /ic/.

>>2036322
Take a minute to observe what type of threads are out there right now. For starters here's >>2034868 first of all this is not the work of OP instead he starts a thread with the emphasis of gossip and bullshitting.

Secondly here's one of the many muh feels thread >>2036306 with nothing but complaining and bitching and moaning.

Last but not least we have these threads where someone is so butthurt they attempt to recruit a personal army against someone for example Kr0n, Sakimi, someone who traced and got thousands of views or someone who "pandered" to a fanbase and got much praise and attention.

>>2036125
>robot like impossible posses in which case push it even farther to make it more obvious
Yea, I felt like the ref was kinda impossible, so I toned it down, but I get what you mean. I pitched the rib cage at a weird angle.

>>2034496
Is this a beyonce/sasha fierce reference? I think it would look better if you could see half of her normal hand, but other than the things that anon said, it's looking good.
>>2035840
I liked the first one but I think this needs higher opacity/more confidence. It looks a little like with both of them you liked what you had and then you were too scared to continue them.
>>2035524
Animation thread will help you better.

>>2036329
You hit the nail on the head. Hey this place has been running through a pretty bad streak lately but at least it had the ability to get me interested in art around 2011.

>>2036409
also sorry about not resizing that

>>2032928
Do you have the original pinterest source for 4 by chance?

>>2036329
Way to miss the point.

/ic/ is shit indeed, no body was arguing against that, but throwing the hurr female thing is full-retard and lacks any sense of maturity.

>>2036313
retard

are there any simple easy-to-learn techinques for coloring/lineart?
everytime I color/linework, my drawing looks shittier than it already is.
not trying to aim for mediocrity/be lazy, I just want to make something decent for the small time being

>>2036325
One time I hit r9k instead of pol. It was pretty funny. Sage for blog.

Work in progress

>>2036181
>>2036195
Search for "moe" at

https://mega.co.nz/#F!WBAlWbAY!OHlVpL_6vsusinFzniu4_g

And the first result is pretty good.

>>2035879
Cute.
>>2034800
>>2035840
Really like your lines.
>>2034707
Interesting.
>>2034359
>>2034047
>>2032928
Cool.

>>2036665
Dude. Less platitudes and more constructive critique. It's like I'm reading DA comments.

>>2036551
Something that I sometimes do is multiple attempts at line-art/coloring on the same piece. Basically what you'd do is ink a portion or most of the drawing you posted, but instead of accepting that line art as final, create a new layer and start over. Critically examine the first attempt, then take what you've learned and apply it to the new version. Maybe do a few layers of this sort of thing, using a different process for the line-art in each piece.

This can be a relatively fast way of finding what works or not.

anything I need to work on??

>>2036722
Hair would be the main thing, and the eyes are off-aligned.
After that, textures in general (what is metal, what is fabric, what is skin).

Personally, I'm bored of the sameface feverworm symbol drawings of people looking down and doing vague actions with their hands but if that's what you like, go do you.

Hi
Giving stylization a shot. critique?

>>2036724
alright thanks!

Any general tips?

>>2036724
>>2036752
also it was the first time I tried doing that style lmao
Just thought it looked fun idk

>>2036776
First off that dark elf is sexy as fug but her stage left breast looks quite a bit smaller than her right and I feel like her stage right shoulder should be more subdued; hidden behind her torso. It kind of looks like her shoulders and chest are pointing in two slightly different directions.

Crystal princess a cute very well done there. Post in the tower grill thread pls bb.

>>2036765
Have a visual concept before you start

>>2034707
Is this a Minecraft version of the Simpsons?

>>2036776

What program are you using?

Anyone have some brush tools and stuff for Sai?
I dont have anything going for me right now

>>2036468
I think this is the guy's DA
http://marcusdeleo.deviantart.com/art/B-50-199528642

I don't know what to do with Garcher's head mang

How do I draw something very basic
Like how do I draw a head the shape of a ball, without it looking like its literally just a ball as a head?

Hey that's right I can post this here too. Fuck yeah double exposure.

>>2034707
Too much T-wei, I like it though!

>>2034047
>>2034359
Really nice man, do you have a blog? And also do you do this professionally, do they allow you to submit sketches on paper?

>>2036982
I'd say make the cheek protrude a bit. Is that what you're talking about?

>>2036986
Do you have a blog or da where I can find more of your work?

i cant paint or draw for shit

Stuff from today. Combined several refs together for 4. Not sure if you can consider it OC. Goofed some of the perspective in several places, wanted to add a BG, but I figured I can just do it later in PS...

Bad hands all around. I think I should practice hands this week.

>>2036986
Can't tell if you are a troll... since I linked blog 2 times already... >>2022162 I'm just a guy that draws on his kitchen table

>>2037007
Should they equal the the same length of the forehead or shorter or longer?

>>2036860
photoshop CC

Any advice? First time doing anything in colour. Spent like 3 hours on it..

>>2037028
Fuck you buddy

Opinions?
Should I remove the point on the eyes?
Neck to long?
Cheek to high?

>>2037219
Yeah, remove the points on the eyes. Honestly the best advice I can give (which I'm sure you've heard before) is go back to basics.

For you I'd recommend to start with circles, and try to make as many perfect circles as you can. The only reason I say this is because I can see the oval in the background that you used for the head shape. Once you get that stuff figured out, tackling anatomy will be your next step. By anatomy, I dont mean learning to draw the human figure like da vinci, but learn how human proportion works and how other anime artists give it a little twist.

>>2037254
Yeah I used to draw, but I put myself on a 2 month hiatus, moving houses, now Im trying to get comfortable with my new table, which I think might be a bit to high to draw on
I think my anatomy before was solid

>>2037219

missing most of the back of the head too. personally I wouldn't put the ear on the temple, follow the line of the jaw instead. I'm not sure why you chose to make the eyes shaped like bells. It's just weird and unappealing, try sticking with more classic shapes like almond or oval. I am also not a fan of the super-receding chin. try bringing it out further.

>>2037219
Get back to the beginner thread, you have a lot of work to do.

>>2037256
>I think my anatomy before was solid
No. Like I said, back to the basics.

>>2037215
It's okay I guess but I wouldn't have spent three hours on it. I'm not too fond of the brush you used because it looks like it was made on MSpaint.

>>2036986
>>2037007
What's yours? I have a feeling I'm already following, but i wanna be sure.

>>2037219
y'all need loomis nigga.

>>2037129
>I'm just a guy who copies frames from dojins and shit on my kitchen table
fixed

>>2037269
Thanks for the portrait study reference, buddy

ugh

>>2037390
make one with a stomping grill

>>2034764
>>2035112
The one on the left looks quite good though.

>>2037390
I like it, Omega gud job.

stuff

>>2037254
>>2037269
I had the idea of having them to be like eyelashes on the end, but I had a bit to drink last night and now I notice that it looks like shit
With the Chin should I bring it out further to the right?
>>2037297
>>2037331
Like I said I didnt do shit for 2 months, so I downloaded this RAR with a bunch of Tutorials and Loomis, where should I start first

>>2036977
Slightly open mouth with the speech bubble "Tohsaka I'm going in Dry."

>>2037719
-ed bra

>>2036978
Her left calf is a little over defined. Either flex her toe to keep the calf in tension, or smooth out the calf like she is in mid step. Check the arm pit, shoulds, feet, and sleeves. Otherwise good stuff m8

>>2036648
Is the stuff on the bottom mountains or waves?

>>2036749
Finish it up a little more. Too much uniform line thickness. Also, when you try new styles and such, do more than just one, try lots of poses, characters, etc

>>2036954
Why is it so dark? Fun style like a kids book. The bottom of the shirt looks a little too billowy for a fat guy

>>2036183
>What did I fuck up the hardest?
The hands, but you got some work cut out for you in general. Draw more, and it will come

>>2037028
This is cool, why are there like weird perspective grids on his chest

>>2037719
Her hair in the back is weird. I don't know how big boobs are supposed to look, but I expect they'd be a little heavier

>>2037719
It's noice, but the shaky line work for the hips and the tits kills it for me.

>>2037859
Thanks anon. I'll do 50 gestures or something before I start on something.
I'll do better next time. O/

I think this is about to get done, I changed the expression quite a bit from >>2033969 I also tried to add more dynamism

I wish I had finished with this one already but I have other 5 pieces (traditional and digital) that I have yet to finish.

Btw thank you guys for your support, it means the world to me :)

>>2037922
It looks weird in the thumbnail but quite lovely when blown up. Keep at it bruh.

>>2037922
If you are going for realistic get rid of that outline on her face

>>2037923
I'm unsure of which expression I like better. The previous one had kind of a sympathetic look to her whereas this one kind of gives off a feeling of mischief. They're both very cute though.

The crown kind of looks strange like it's asymmetrical and might be off as far as how it's placed on the head in perspective. The ellipse making up the base of the crown looks wonky to me.

>>2037339
Yup nothing you said is a lie

Have some more copied robots - idk where this one is from it was in my stash of mechs

>>2037922
just stop man. study the structure of the eye more, as well as everything that surrounds it.

>>2037922
her right eye is all wrong

>>2038055
>just stop man
That's the opposite of what he should do though. He needs to learn to finish a piece and spend hours on it only to come back later and realize how shit it is and what he could have done better.

>>2037922
There is nothing wrong with your picture, keep doing what you're doing, good job.

>>2038083
wrong. he just keeps pushing it, but that alone isn't enough to make a good picture.
he needs to work more on his fundamentals instead of CONSTANTLY polishing turds like this. this isn't giving back much in terms of experience either. he needs to draw more.

>>2038087
it's worse than before, it looks like a gorilla.

>>2038092
I don't think calling it turd polishing is quite fair. I do agree with what you're saying though, a lot of changes to the piece didn't do much to solve its core issues.

>>2037922
Firez this is very nice but i feel like it is very gray and makes the mood of the picture sad :c i hope you aren't feeling sad

>>2037390
So amazing!!! I love seeing how much you improve each painting!!

>>2038092
Well then the fucker needs to work on his fundamentals, too. But he still shouldn't just drop everything altogether. Seriously, you get into a habit of never finishing anything by doing that and it's just as bad as forever turd polishing.

There's a balance. He needs to stop being a faggot and do some damn studies along with what he already does.

Pirez's work is shit, and will always be shit. He paints the same thing every time. And they are all BORING. The characters are lifeless and have the same dull flat expression. There is never a visual concept. The compositions are dead in the water. The colors are muddy and the textures all look like dirt.

He thinks he's working like portrait artist. As if he's bringing classical art values to animu. Well, he's not. All he's doing is repeating formula, and he's not even doing that correctly.

You can tell he posts out of spite and does it just to annoy others who have grown tired of his games. He samefags worse than Kyle and thinks his shit don't stink. Something has to be done about this troll.

>>2038174
kyle is too good to samefag and you are just salty.

>Something has to be done about this troll.

seriously nigga ? thats just other dimmensia of salty.

>>2037922
The eye it is slightly off, just barely. Nice work

>>2038174
who?

>>2038176
Stfu Kelly. I should have never turned you on to copying 19th century sculpture. Everyone and their mother can see how full of yourself you've become copying shit from pintrest, flickr, and sotheby. You should have just stuck to copying from hentaifoundry or furrinfinty. You're not hot shit and you don't have some esoteric advantage on anatomy. You're just a fat kid that holds grudges when people critique your shit. Get over it already.

>>2037922
Firez you should of kept it simple, right now I can tell you that the one in the OP and the one before that was better.
>>2038174
>>2038192
>mfw I'll never have some random Anon talk about you like this
>You'll never have someone dedicated to pay attention to you and stalk you and post about you.

i-i think i fucked up the values...

>>2038192
>holds grudges

said the guy who non stop spreys his salt on kyle and firez for no reason.

>>2038223
Oooo I really like this. The colors are light and under saturated to keep the feeling light - you did good

>>2038223
Values don't look bad honestly. Maybe some tweaks to it could help, but it still reads clearly because of how clean it is and the linework and stuff.

I think there could be a twist the torso though. Right now the pose is kinda dumpy/stiff.

struggling with lineweight

>>2038037
ref?

>>2038100
That's exactly what he does. Firez takes eons to notice obvious mistakes, then slowly chips away at them until his pieces finally look passable. The girl's features don't even wrap around her skull.

>>2038269
I would make the lineweight of forms that overlap other forms heavier than the form/details underneath to help them pop from one another. For instance the hand/arm of the girl on the left has lines that are about the same weight as the sash they're on top of. Of course color will help visually differentiate them, but if you want them to pop as linework, I would thicken up that arm's lines. A few other points similar to that would be her temple-hair, the back of her bra, collar etc.

>>2038232
Wow! Somebody uses salt to mean bitter and you jump all over into that bandwagon. Kinda ironic with you talking about holding things pass thier time.

I miss Greydeath. Anyone know where Greydeath went?

>>2038277
Thanks, I dont know much about good linework so I kinda do it intuitively

Hey /ic/, I forgot how to draw faces without copying. can I fix my visualization or I have to buy a new brain?

>>2038305

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0zl5NnEAyU

>>2038325
stop smoking weed every day

>>2038338
Last spiffy was back in july.
don't tempt me like this /ic/, I'm a serious person now

>>2038287
me too anon me too even though i wasnt much into comic style;_;

>>2038275
I can't agree more.
I think he should do more construction sketches, that will cut the time he spends on a single piece at least in half.

>>2038202
All you do is avatar with weeb shit, there is nothing to talk about. You have never contributed anything worthwhile since these threads have started. It's been over two years almost and you haven't even given one critique worth a damn. Seriously, what's there to talk about?

"Great maymays, anon!" There you finally got the attention you deserve. Your incessant avataring has been publicly acknowledged. You're welcome.

Would appreciate a redline or something. Looks really off.

New Thread:

>>2038454
>>2038454
>>2038454

>>2036978
Do you have skype?

>>2038634
Go away.

>>2031047
>irritating
>one genius in a hundred years or more
>who did not get there by the sweat of his brow
>nature is your best instructor
>all that delusion in a single post

Please, learn some basic psychology, and read some statistics or something.