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2019072 No.2019072 [Reply] [Original]

Art feels?

>That feel when you spend too long on a piece and you can't judge if it's looking good or bad anymore, and you don't even know what the next step is

>> No.2019082
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2019082

>start caring more about finishing something than making it look good

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2019083

>tfw too lazy to find reference, so you just wing it and get lazy for the shit you don't know
>tfw perfect brush technique by mistake and you can't replicate it
>tfw flipping the canvas

>> No.2019092
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2019092

I'll post this story here too

>Art academy
>There's this annoying guy in my class
>His skill level is similar to mine, but worse, he has no imagination and only does shitty fanart
>He never shares knowledge
>I always help people who are worse than me
>He's always there like a fucking vulture waiting for me to say something useful so he can take notes and never show them to me
>He always makes fun of me when I fail
>I try to stay zen but that fucker rustles my jimmies every single day

How do you deal with these parasites?

>> No.2019095

>>2019083

>>tfw perfect brush technique by mistake and you can't replicate it

THIS, sometimes I do god tier textures or something but then I realize I don't know how the fuck I did it, I was probably high and listening to animal collective while I did it

>> No.2019098

>>2019092
just keep cool, one day you'll leave this man's presence and never see him again

>> No.2019101

>>2019083
>>tfw perfect brush technique by mistake and you can't replicate it

AAAAAAAAAAH! THAT'S ME THAT'S ME!!!

>> No.2019120

>>2019092
>not purposely telling him how to do things the wrong way.

>> No.2019129
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2019129

>tfw when sitting in second row at figure drawing and some normie in the front row is blocking my view of the model by holding up his pencil every god damn 5 seconds

>> No.2019132

>start rendering
>5 hours in
>realize it looks muddy as fuck and you could have avoided all this if you followed the fucking steps of painting

>> No.2019134

>Put two works up for sale
>First one is something you conceptually fell in love with, put way more time and dedication into it
>Second is something (relatively) quickly slapped together and you're pretty unsatisfied with the outcome
>The second one is sold almost immediately and others clamor for the same/similar
>First takes half a year to sell and most people you show it to say "that's nice."

>> No.2019135

new models who cant hold a pose for their life.

>> No.2019146

>>2019135

>who cant hold a pose

a model moving slightly isn't a big deal, good artists know how to keep their drawing flexible for any small changes in the model

>> No.2019165

>>2019146
No i've had models that changed the pose completely before the timer ran out.

>> No.2019174

>artist you love ends up being a tracer

>> No.2019202

>>2019174

kron?

>> No.2019205
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2019205

>>2019202
Yunomi

>> No.2019215

>Used to want to take my art from a hobby to a career
>tfw reality smacks you in the face

>tfw art is better than ever
>tfw art will forever be hobbyzoned
>tfw you also love your career too much to quit it for art

>Pop out pretty drawings with super speed
>No real meaning behind them, they're just pretty, so they're easy to make
>Sell like hot cakes
>Use the money to buy materials for and commissions from the artists I have been following since I thought being an artist was an actual possibility for me
>tfw I'm living vicariously through them
>tfw they're just literally living through me

I'm not unhappy. I'm just dead inside.

>> No.2019221

>>2019205
even with tracing those hands ended up looking wonky

"Muh anime style" only goes so far before hitting the uncanny valley.

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>>2019221
It's the same style as most yaoi, so... yeah.

>> No.2019229

>>2019225
fuckin crystals man not even once

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>>2019205

i have no idea who that is. but judging by the ridiculous amount of manga artists out there, i wouldn't be surprised if 90% of them traced or draw over photos to aid their forms and stuff.

gotta learn to paint like this if you want to impress people with manga work.

and i don't even like hentai. but i fap to this guys work because it's just SO freaking good.

>> No.2019247

>>2019232
>tfw someone posts really good art without source

>> No.2019248

>>2019247
>tfw someone doesn't know about image search

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>>2019232
Well you'd think with how exaggerated and sometimes simplistic body shapes are in the manga world that they wouldn't need to trace, maybe use reference but not trace.

For me Yunomi was very fresh at the time, she had a very unique coloring technique and a style I had never seen before.

I'm glad she owned up to what she did but it still makes me sad I'll never see any of her work again.

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2019262

>tfw you push yourself in hopes that you'll get better faster, but you just end up straining yourself and being even more frustrated with both your execution and your ideas
>tfw you need to learn how to relax
>tfw people you respect and admire artistically tell you that your work is good but you don't believe them because you've conditioned yourself to not take compliments seriously

fuck.

>> No.2019276

>>2019247
>Open 4chan settings
>Sauce tab
>Enable SauceNao

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2019284

>tfw your computer harddrive crashes and you get a text immediately after from your boss asking for an image alteration they need

>> No.2019285

>>2019284
were they understanding about the hard drive crashing?

>> No.2019301

>Do lots of sketching
>Get confident
>Try to do a finished piece
>Forget everything I know and make stupid mistakes

>> No.2019304

>Still can't find a good set of SAI brush settings for inking

>> No.2019306

>>2019304
I mean linework

why did I say inking

>> No.2019310

>>2019301
refer back to your sketches

>> No.2019311

>>2019306
Airbrush with 0 min size and 0 edge hardness

>> No.2019318

>>2019311
Hey that's pretty good

but why 0 edge hardness? that makes it kind of blurry.

>> No.2019331

>>2019318
Assuming you have thin lines it won't be noticeable, the softness of it is why I use it instead of using the Pen tool

>> No.2019353

>>2019285
They need it in two days so I'll try to find something else to use or sneak into a local community college

>> No.2019465

>>2019262
Are you me?

>> No.2019469

that feel when you put your body in harm so that you can work as hard and as long as you can

>> No.2019475

>>2019262
>>tfw people you respect and admire artistically tell you that your work is good but you don't believe them because you've conditioned yourself to not take compliments seriously
they're probably just lying to you so you'll leave them alone tbh. you got your pat on the head though

>> No.2019493

>>2019304
Use Clip Studio. SAI a shit.

>> No.2019494

>>2019493
I had a REALLY hard time deciphering what I was supposed to do with all that japanese and couldn't find an english version or patch.

>> No.2019513

>that one day where everything you try to draw comes out complete shit
I'm currently having it.

>> No.2019535

>>2019494
Manga studio 5 is the english version

>> No.2019551

love you guys, hope you achieve all of your art dreams :3

>> No.2019565

>tfw spent a ridiculous amount of time "tracing" a skeleton over a porn pose
>use that + referencing by eye
>grow more and more unhappy with your "art"
>don't know where to actually start
>books open
>no motivation
>everything sucks

>> No.2019571

>>2019565

keep drawing you fuck. Why are you here complaining?

>> No.2019575

>>2019551
lots of people (including myself) have been using :3 a lot lately. I like it.

>> No.2019576

>>2019571
Because I'm laying in bed procrastinating instead of sleeping and I got my uni Drawing I class tomorrow and I've already drawn today, albeit shitty but still.

>> No.2019586

>tfw younger friend beyond surpasses me in a short while
>tfw asked me for advice all the time
>tfw I'm asking him for advice now.
>tfw he just showed me his greatest work yet

Fuck fuck fuck
I'm both happy and salty, like, I'm still thinking on how I can top that.

>> No.2019587

>>2019535
Anybody got a serial or crack for that? My copy only works on Mac and my serial won't work for the windows version I downloaded. :(

>> No.2019590

>>2019587
>>http://fineartvn.blogs..........................................pot.com/search/label/SOFTWARES?&max-results=20

not my blog.
remove periods.

>> No.2019591

>>2019586

a friendly rivalry is the best thing that can happen to an artist.

>> No.2019719

>>2019591
that's why I started drawing

I saw so much bad art online I eventually thought "shit I can do better than that"

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2019739

>all these sad feels
Let's get some good ones in

>Posts animation on tumblr
>get over 600 notes (when 20 is normal for me)
>When I think about it, there are more people liking my picture, than was on my entire elementary-school

It feels amazing
Captcha: Tryyy

>> No.2019742

>>2019739

just wait until you come across all of the absolute garbage that gets 6k likes.

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2019753

>all I want to do is go to art school
>my parents can't fund my education
>have no clue how to get scholarships/grants
>instead of being surrounded by like minded individuals, I am stuck in bumfuck nowhere masturbating all day and hating myself

>also no friends

mfw

>> No.2019758

>>2019134
This feel man. I just want others to feel my feels but they don't translate.
>tfw

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>>2019165
We have a model in our figure painting class that always looks ill. He always smells really sweaty and sometimes he loses the blood from his face/his lips get pale and he seems like he's always in a cold sweat and agony. He's always sneezing or drooping or groaning and not keeping the pose even remotely close. Like, why do you even do this?

>> No.2019763

>>2019753
Art school isn't worth the money.

Just go on conceptart/permanoobs instead.

>> No.2019765

>>2019753
don't go to artschool

Talk to an advisor if you need info on anything scholarship/grant/loan related.

Also consider a trade school career-wise.

>> No.2019789

>>2019765
A trade school such as?

>>2019763
doing it online just isn't the same. I want to be surrounded with aspiring people so that I can become that way as well. Also I feel like art school is the only way I can justify leaving my shitty town.

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2019799

>tfw I blew my college fund on bitches, booze, strip clubs and medical bills and now I can't find work because my art sucks ass
>tfw gonna have to move in with my dad and live in a shack on a farm soon

>> No.2020148

>>2019232
>and i don't even like hentai. but i fap to this guys work because it's just SO freaking good.

Fuck same here, I have a whole folder of this guys stuff and it's excellent, I can't find a pixiv/blog or anything for him though, help a brother out?

>> No.2020155

>>2019132
What are the steps?

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2020316

>Never render any of my work
>Mom wants me to make money Now
>have to sellout and force my hand into the /furry/ realm
>want to learn a bit about graphic design
>want to make a portfolio to send to a company that will hire me
>/gd/ is easy as fuck when you know composition, tone, negative space, and character design.
>cant into actually coloring anything that isnt cell shaded or limited to 3 values

>> No.2020318

>>2020316
Just draw chibis and pose to be a girl on da

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2020327

my art < your art

the pain is real

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2020364

>when you thought you were an okay artist with potential but it turns out you were terrible, are still pretty bad, and are probably too stupid to get much better

Today is a bad day.

>> No.2020367

>>2020364

every artist feels that way. that only means you are on the right track.

>> No.2020368

>>2020316
/gd/ only knows trends. That's not graphic design, don't be fooled.

>> No.2020390

>unemployed, never had a job, only internships
>everyone tells me to go to art school
>withwhatfuckingmoney.png
>"oh, just get a loan! that's what i did!"
>mfw listening to them tell me that they paid off that loan after 10-15 years, some are still paying it off

>after a few months of me saying no, people get pissed off at me because they think that they know what's best for my situation
>eventually peer pressured into talking about having an official art education with my jobcoach
>thankfully nothing happened after that because we found a possible internship opening up, so we're going for that instead

Jesus, I know this isn't my blog but I really needed to rant this one out.
People, especially ones who have no experience in the art category, mind your own damn business.

>> No.2020392

>>2020367
nope, Zorn actually is pretty confident with his skills.

>> No.2020411

>>2020390
If you ask for advice
you're going to get advice

If you want good advice stop asking the wrong people.

>> No.2020453

>>2020411
Thanks man.

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2020495

>"You don't really seem like you like drawing that much, eh?"
>"Your uncle was rather disappointed when he found out you went to an art uni"
>"Artists are usually very dedicated to their craft, I don't see you drawing much to be honest"
>"Your grades aren't very good, are they? You sure you like what you're studying?"
>"Remember when you wanted to get a computer science degree before you got that art nonsense in your head?"
>"You stare at your computer all the time, you should have become a programmer afterall"
>"Have you heard the news about your cousin? He's only on his third year, but he's already making money for his family with his engineering internship. His mother must be really proud"
Th-thanks mom. Really good conversation starters. I really enjoy having dinner with you.

>> No.2020496

>>2020495
Well life's tough isn't it? Boo hoo
git good faggot

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2020497

>TFW when you copy from your references a little too well.

> people accuse you of tracing

I still feel guilty as FUCK even though I didn't

>> No.2020499

>>2020495

I bet your mom is a very successful person and loves her job. She is also probably well rounded and accomplished in general. Let me guess, her favorite hobby is watching tv?

If you can, you should move out. If you just visit, visit less often. People like this will kill your career if you take them seriously, it is very important to surround yourself with the right people.

>> No.2020506

>>2020499
>Let me guess, her favorite hobby is watching tv?
No, it's reading the forum of a local newspaper.
It's like 4chan for housewives, I guess. We live in the 21st century afterall.

The thing that gets me the most is that sometime I think she might be right. I'm not a paragon of self-discipline, hard work and dedication, really.

>> No.2020509

>>2020506
>>2020495
At least your mother doesn't flat out tell you she hates you and hates your work. And that you are related.
Sorry that she is mean to you

>> No.2020514

I fucking hate my senior art class, they are full of fucking retards, a weeb who only talks about fucking wanting to become a "digital mangaka" and a douche who talks like a caricature of rich guy shaking a whiskey glass and saying I like jazz.

>> No.2020519

>>2020514
Whats wrong with Jazz? Havent you ever seen Whiplash? Fuckin bitch.

>> No.2020524

>>2020506
See, the thing is, she DOES have some points to make. But a lot of what she is saying is baited and toxic. It's not very supportive and doesn't help you look at things rationally.

>> No.2020529

>>2020509
>YOU CANT DRAW UNTIL YOU MOVE OUT
>ALL YOU DO IS GO TO CLASS AND YOU COME HOME AND JUST DRAW
>YOU ARE GOING TO FAILL ANON
>STOP DRAWING IN MY HOUSE
>YOUVE BEEN DRAWING FOR 5 YEARS ANON, FIND A FUCKING JOB
>WORK A REAL JOB AND GET OUT OF MY HOUSE
>WHEN I WAS YOUR AGE, I HAD TWO JOBS AND WENT TO SCHOOL FULL TIME.
>GROW THE FUCK UP AND STOP DRAWING

i cant stop. Its like a force of nature inside me. I must move out, but applications take time as well as money

>> No.2020530

>>2020519
hipsters like to say that they like jazz because it's 'cool.' not because they actually like it.

>> No.2020531

>>2020519
He doesn't like Whiplash, all this dumb ass talks about is Kenny G and smooth jazz and uses big words for shit that doesn't need big words.

>> No.2020542

>>2020531
>▶
>>2020530
oh ok well then fuck that guy.

>> No.2020604

>always drew what you saw
>did it all through growing up, instead of developing your own style
>spent years of middle school and half of high school drawing animu instead of aiming to improve
>abandon animu and start drawing realism
>suddenly fun due to challenging, improving
>years pass, realism artist
>tfw you only stick to drawing people because you can use all the skill you have, but can't come up with your own shit

It's a lonely feel, but the regular people like it, so...It's not so bad I guess.

>> No.2020615

>>2020529
lol my dad used to talk to me like that until he physically grabbed my pencil while i was drawing and then i grabbed him by the neck and slammed him through a fucking door and he fell on his ass and i just looked at him like he was pathetic and then i left. granted, im also 6'3 250 lbs and pretty strong so dont fucking get between me and my drawing or youll get a black eye. and my dad used to push me around all the time anyway so it was a breaking point and now we hate eachother and dont live together anymore thank god, because we probably would have killed eachother by now.

>> No.2020631

>my feeling...
>having the skills and materials but no inspiration.

>> No.2020632

>>2020604
> that feel when you are incredibly talented at making artwork from the imagination but you have zero skill at drawing what you can see/what is in front of you.

>> No.2020637

>>2020632
thats because youre trying to learn so its a different process of drawing. you should still study even if it sucks because its going to improve your personal work even if you dont realize it at the moment.

>> No.2020654

>>2020615
>>2020615
I feel like the action of me moving out will result in a brawl with my parents.
Mom always being wishy washy about choices and my dad being the brute force that follows her every command like some dog.
Also my mom doesnt let me lift anymore, says I dont know what Im doing but ive been lifting with my football team for 5+ years. I know what the fuck im doing for my reps.
I have to train in secret now

>> No.2020670

>>2019225
holy shit what the fuck man

>> No.2020677

>>2020654
>I feel like the action of me moving out will result in a brawl with my parents.

Probably.

Look, you live as a toxic environment with shitty parents who do nothing but tear you down from the sound of it.

Fuck 'em.

Dunno how much or what advice you've been given yet... but this is what I'd advise assuming you are 18+, looking to get your life on track, and your parents truly are as horrible as they seem to be.

Start going out all day every day job hunting, you don't literally have to be job hunting the whole time but as far as your parents are concerned that's why you aren't home all day long. Only come home to eat and sleep, you are now a busy man.

If your parents question you, show them job apps and resumes.

Price apartments. Find out what rent costs in your area, how much the deposits are, and most importantly either a place you can rent without co-signing or someone other than your parents you can trust to co-sign for you. You're not sign yet, just researching.

Get a job. What it is isn't too important, so long as it is steady and pays enough to cover your projected rent and expenses. Ensure you can get there, either with car or public transit or with your Chevrolegs...

Work and save a chunk of money.

Pick one of those apartments you'd researched earlier (preferably something frugal), have the deposit plus two months rent. Assuming you get the apartment, choose a convenient move-in date.

Purchase some essentials. Some plasticware and plastic dishes, a crock pot (cheapest and easiest home-cooked meals ever), stuff like that.

Decide if you want to tell your parents that you are moving out or not. Your call, but don't tell them anything until you have a rental agreement so they can't browbeat you out of this.

Then, move out. You'll want help, unless you're packing real light... so friends or sympathetic family would be great.

>> No.2020679

>>2020677
Now your job will suck and your apartment will suck, I'm sure. Maybe your boss is a dick, or the rental management company is shit... but the point is that you're free. From here you are free to hunt for a new job, better apartment, focus on your lifts and art, whatever you like.

This won't happen overnight, might take six months, might take a year. But if your home environment is like how you portray it, you absolute top priority is getting free of it. Your art, lifts, everything, all suffer for it.

>> No.2020685

>>2020679
This is actually great advice.
Most people will be like, 'If your family sucks then just move out faggot!" but it's more complicated if you've never worked a steady job, etc. Moving out on a whim is pretty stupid, doing it right takes time and planning.

>> No.2020727

>>2020677
Im 19 right now.
I am job 'searching' but not job hunting, you're right, I need to up my game in order to live on my own.

I havent looked for apartments yet, Silly of me. It needs too be my own goal, something physical that I can look at and touch right now.
All of this is amazing for me anon, thank you. My mental goal has been reached after being an emotional wreck for a whole year and a half. I have to thank seanwes for the mental breakthrough.

Im going to screen cap your post and print it out and put it next to the future apartment.
Godspeed anon.

>> No.2020731

>>2020679
>This won't happen overnight, might take six months, might take a year. But if your home environment is like how you portray it, you absolute top priority is getting free of it. Your art, lifts, everything, all suffer for it.

My artwork right now is representative of my own life right now. Unfinished, planned out but never finished.
I never made the transition into adulthood, never finished constructing my spirit.
Now with the mental and physical knowledge, i can finally complete my spirit.

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>>2019072
>Draw something
>Have to leave unfinished for the day
>Next Day
>Have to redraw everything because everything was bad as fuck now.
I'm never going to be happy, am I?

>> No.2020738

>tfw health problems
I'm having issues with my wisdom teeth and teeth in general and it's distracting as hell every single day. Every time I go to draw something it's damn near all I can think about.

>> No.2020838

I never get anything done because i'm always on the internet. I've wasted most of my life being on the fuckin internet.

>> No.2020843

>Beginning to take digital art seriously and fucking up

Some stuff is kinda difficult when you start I know, but fuckin' A.

>> No.2020878

>beginning of day, very motivated
>do my morning figure drawing religiously
>immediately afterwards stop working
>piddle the REST of the day just fucking around on the internet
>feels like a restless purgatory of almost working but i never get around to it
FUCK
it's almost midnight. nothing done in the last 9 hours.

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2020888

>"oh you're an artists anon? show me some stuff!"
>take out phone, open blog, cringe as they flip through your awful sketches
>"this is great anon! why don't you sell your work"
>"t-t-thanks. m-maybe soon"
>tfw you're at least three years away from being good
>

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2020893

>Draw something
>It looks pretty good
>Think you've improved a lot
>Realize it's an easy pose at an easy angle of something pretty simple and it should have been EASIER to draw it than it did

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>>2020888
>"you're good anon, do you have a blog?"
>filled with porn and bullshit sketches
>'no, I havent been available to make one'
>"oh, but you should anon!"
>change topic
>sexual harassment charges avoided
>ex tried to sue me for sexual harassment but failed miserably
>still shakes my bones

Whew

>> No.2020915

>>2020910
is it any good

>> No.2020921

>Finish a piece
>"time to upload it!"
>Go to website
>See all the popular stuff out there
>All the people I follow are posting two to three times per week
>I update every month or so
>My piece isn't half as good
>Sink into pit of depression

>> No.2020923

>>2020921
the struggle is real

>> No.2020924

>tfw post in the draw thread asking for help
>tfw no replies
crievertim

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2020927

>TFW you promise yourself you'll focus hard and study but just end up alt tabbing every 5 minutes to change songs or shitpost

>> No.2020934

>>2019475
I mean this mainly happens during critique, I don't really know these people but I know their work. At the same time critiques at my school are mostly just hug boxes. It's more annoying than anything. I'd rather have people tell me why my work sucks so I can actually improve.

>> No.2020938
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>>2020915
It varies from
"Oh this looks alright."
To
"Goddamnit anon, what the fuck happend to your drawing hand?"

>> No.2020939

> only like gesture drawings
> hate fucking digital painting
> always over analyzing shit
> just want to draw qt anime girls uninterrupted

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>>2020878
>>2020921
>>2020924
>>2020927

jesus christ anons, this is all me...

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>>2020927
oh fuck this ...
especially about changing the song

>> No.2020968
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2020968

>when /ic/ no longer hounds on you like they used to because you're starting to learn figure drawing and anatomy.

>> No.2020990

>>2020968
that's a good feel brah

>> No.2020995

>>2020946
On the no replies one, the worst fucking thing is getting skipped, especially if someone posts right after you and immediately gets a reply and so do most of the posts after that.

>> No.2021015

>>2020968
Youre doing alright fire

>> No.2021024

>>2021015
Maybe that is Firez but I find it hard to believe. People still shit on that guy even if he doesn't even fucking post. I would be genuinely surprised if there was ever a time he didn't get hounded for simply existing.

>> No.2021027

>>2020995
>your post gets ignored
>following post is wacky and funny
>gets a bunch of replies
>your post will never get replies on that thread

>> No.2021032

>>2021027
ever. tim.
I love it when I even go as far as bumping it a few hours later and STILL get fucking ignored.

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2021043

>want to draw a pose
>not enough knowledge or a big enough visual library to draw it
>don't know how to google for similar poses
>stick to the same boring poses
>repeat

>try to draw different proportions for faces
>everything looks wrong
>same face and same body everywhere

i hate this

>> No.2021049

>>2021043
I know the feeling. The worst part is that studying real life doesn't seem to help or that I'm studying real life entirely wrong.

>> No.2021051

>>2021049
ugh, totally. especially when your study looks sort of good but you can tell it's all surface level polish and you didn't really study at all.

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2021055

>draw something nice/decent one day
>next day
>can't draw at the same quality
>make too many mistakes

>> No.2021056

>>2021051
lol then you fart and hella shit squirts out on accident but youre too lazy to get up so you just sit there with poopy underwear.

>> No.2021058

>>2021051
Yeah, just studying from life feels like tracing. I never come out of it learning anything, I've had to use Loomis and the other teachers so far, but I hit a lot of walls and feel like I don't know which step to take next in order to learn.

>> No.2021064

>>2021058
>Yeah, just studying from life feels like tracing.
uh no?

You can't expect to draw anything if you don't know what it looks like. Especially with human faces or different types of lighting for different types of material like skin vs metal.

Hell, over the past few weeks I've practiced copying real cars.....now I can draw my own types of cars from memory.

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>>2021043
>>2021049
>>2021056
Im trying to find the 2D square shapes that add up to something like this, but i forgot the name of it

>> No.2021107

>>2019072
just walk away for a while and come back to it, work on something else. I spent a month on a super large oil painting, rendered the fuck out of it, and I decided I don't like it when I cam to "the end". Set it aside for 3 months, came back with fresh eyes and went, "ohhh, it needs this this this and this!" and then I knocked it out quickly and now It's in my portfolio.

>> No.2021179

>>2020495
Areyoume.png

Just keep doing your thing, you don't need a ton of money to enjoy life. Just keep painting and working! Besides, the stress of a normal-unskilled job is so much less then a programming/engineering gig. Ex-Comp Eng here, you're better off now. Just try and find yourself.

>tfw I get the same buzz from painting as I do from hacking on some code

>> No.2021367

>>2021179
>programming/engineering gig.
>try it
>cant remember what terms to use
>fall behind
>almost flunk

Never taking proggramming again, until I can understand loops

>> No.2021370

>>2020738
>wisdom teeth
I had surgery to take all 4 of the out
>roots were like hooks drilling in my jaw, almost 3cm long
Fuck those teeth, get them out, suffer the consequences for 2 weeks, then git gud

>> No.2021376
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2021376

>Demotivated after studying basic anatomy.
>Just poop out gestures on pixelovely so I can say that I drew every day this year.

At least I'm doing something I guess.

>> No.2021410

>>2021376
oh boy, just take it step by step. like one day all there is to anatomy is an arm, or just a hand.
then take in all the information you can about it.
if you get demotivated by trying to chew a large bite, chew a smaller bite. if you are demotivated you are your own enemy, instead of "making the problem of not knowing the anatomy your enemy".

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>>2021376
You better git gud

>> No.2021420

>>2021414
oh man i can feel it, im almost there. im feeling the form now more often than not. sometimes even the photos hit me in the head when they are close to the camera.
im getting more knowledgable about anatomy day by day, feeling the gestures in my body - years of training my own body has its results in drawing too.
im increasing my hours monthly spent on developing my skills. now its 7 hours a day, my last goal is 10 hours a day, eventually conquering the weekends too.
I'm going to master the figure.

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>>2021376
>this one guy
>does b/w studies and gestures and posts them frequently
>"good for him"
>years later
>barely, almost no improvement

I hope you're not him. Anatomy isn't everything. And even when you're studying them, step up your game each session and try something new. Don't do studies for the sake of studying. Apply them and use studies to reinforce your current knowledge. Gestures and gestures only does not do shit. This applies to all you guys who studies for years with barely any improvement.

That guy makes me feel sad.

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>>2021433
Fuck

>> No.2021468

>>2021433
I also just noticed how he layers the hair in that image for added sense of volume. The subtle hue changes also makes for a more realistic looking skin. I'll use it in my next one.

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2021495

>tfw finding a cardboard box full of drawing you made when you were a kid
>tfw realizing you weren't a child prodigy and haven't been wasting any sort talent by doing fuck all for the last decade

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>>2021495
>look through old shit
>when I was a kid I played with the gods
>had a journal in 01
>drew a pic of "ninja panda"
>looks like kung fu panda but it didnt come out yet
>bring it to school
>everyone likes it
>bring it home
>somehow my dad caught string of me bringing my drawing to school
>confescated it and my journal
>read it
>scoffs
>gives it back to me
>I throw it in the swamp in my back yard

We've been mortal enimes ever since

>> No.2021509

>Want to draw something
>Don't know what to draw
>"Hey draw this if you don't know what to draw!"
>Don't want to draw that
I must be doing something wrong

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>> No.2021523

>>2019083
>>tfw perfect brush technique by mistake and you can't replicate it
I need the saving plugin for my brain

>> No.2021527

>>2020318
I swear to fuckin god man,I haven't hit 10watchers or 10 ffollowers yet and I've been grinding for months.

The worst part is I know this Asian girl that does exactly that and is just flying after her first month

>> No.2021528

>>2021032
I know that feel. Sometimes I just tell myself: It's just too good, they can't find anything they'd like to critique about it.

>if only

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2021533

>The biggest dream of my life is to draw for Valve company or similar so I could spend my days helping to create something that will amaze people, something worth doing
>Instead everyday in the office I'm filling documents with some stupid construction information about valves
>That irony makes me cry

>> No.2021536

>>2019072
dat feel when you can't work our how to turn the stabilizer off but it turns out it's not even on and you just draw like that :/

>> No.2021538

> tfw trying to impress everyone that I impress no one because my blog has 0 entries
> tfw you wish you could go back to not knowing how bad you suck so you could just post without talking yourself out of it

>> No.2021541

>>2020995
Tell me about it
>>2020497
Not a single sempai ever notices me

>> No.2021543

>>2021533
Too bad Valve doesn't make games anymore.

>> No.2021566

>>2021528
Maybe but even ones asking for specific help get passed over. Honestly I think the draw thread is good for one thing only- shit posting. The first small chunk of pics get feedback, the rest is people waiting for someone to say 'gbak2 beginner thread' to or someone whose stuff is really good that they want to nit-pick and tear down a peg. There will be a few more good crits but it's mostly that and a shit ton of ignored posts. It might help if people who post for crit would crit someone else too.

>> No.2021592

>>2021533
The irony made me laugh

>> No.2021598

>>2020496
Somebody wasn't hugged enough as a child.

>> No.2021628

>>2021370
I'm calling an oral surgeon right now. I could've fucking dealt with this way back in high school man. If only I had realized what bullshit grade school was, now to do this I have to interrupt shit I actually care about. But at least right now I kinda have the free time for it and then I'll never have to worry about it again.

>> No.2021641

>>2020497
Whats your tum tum?

>> No.2021647

blAZe

>> No.2021724

>>2021055
THIS IDK WHY BUT THIS IS ALWAYS HAPPENING

>> No.2021744

>>2021724
This is because you grow arrogant.

>> No.2021853

>>2021566

true true

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2021862

>Extreme anxiety and procrastination
>Can't ever apply all the knowledge I have learned
>Also have incredibly high standards

>Get desperate as hell and remove all standards, desire to make good art, favorite artists, appreciation for old masters, philosophy about art, intentions to impress clients, EVERYTHING
>Now I can draw for hours a day
>Can apply all the knowledge that I have learned
>got gud
>Got lots of followers online
>Actually got a job at art and started making money
>But now I don't care about art
>Drawing and painting are as boring as cleaning dishes
>Got a chance to met all the artists that inspired me become an artist, but I rejected because I don't even give a shit anymore

I never talk about this because a lot people get offended because I'm not a passionate bohemian that breathes artistic passion everyday.
It's just a job. Not everyone should strive to be an art god.
Now I'm interested in programming, biohacking and economy.

>> No.2021892

>>2021862
Guess you burned yourself out. I feel slightly similar. I let go of a lot of my neuroses about art and I started improving quickly, got some work even. I always wanted to work for Marvel or some big name comic company, but now I'm actually more interested in dicking around doing whatever I want and just living off of patreon. Sometimes I wonder if that makes me a coward, because I honestly kind of don't believe anymore that I was ever gonna get hired at one of those places, and I seem to care less and less about it. Thankfully I'm still loving the hell out of every second I get to spend drawing though, otherwise this'd be torture. Maybe you can git gud at programming and then you could make your own game with your own art.

>> No.2021916

>offer to drawfag for /co/
>no one says anything
>tfw immense embarrassment
>thoughts of logging off for the day
I really tried. ;_;

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>>2021862
>Not everyone should strive to be an art god.
Nice try prick.
Im going to rule this world as a god

>> No.2021920

>>2021916
You gotta flirt with /co/.
They are more horny than /v/

>> No.2021929

>>2021920
Does /co/ like sketches or painted shit? Maybe I tried too hard.

>> No.2021981

>>2020155
Get out, newfag.

>> No.2022046

>>2021916
You're better off building interest by going into the draw threads and doing a bit of those and getting a reputation, they like both kinds, especially if it's well done.

>> No.2022063

>tfw you finally have some control over your work and it doesn't look like total shit
>feelsgoodman.jpeg

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>see questions on /ic/ where I think, "how do they not understand this stuff? even I do"
>realize that I'm actually improving and becoming better than other people
>I can help out some people now instead of being the worst

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>>2022069
>see questions like these, feel like you know the solution
>afraid to answer because you don't want to be the blind leading the blind

>> No.2022326

I went to an art school and it pretty much fails to teach me anything and hounds me with unproductive homework assignments. I have to read books and practice on my own, but having to go to school and doing the assignments interferes with that.
Fortunately, I've got a grant so I don't have to pay for that hellhole.

I want to quit and learn on my own, but my parents have the idea that "studying" means "being in an educational institution", so they'll make me work at a gas station or something if I don't go to school. Actually, that's exactly the reason I went to school in the first place, I knew it would be bad.

But I don't think I can take this anymore. What can I do? I don't think I'm good enough to work professionally just yet.

What do I do?

>> No.2022497

>>2022326
Alla?

>> No.2022573

>>2022497
Who?

>> No.2022595

>draw a relatively unknown character, but do it well
>nobody gives a shit

>> No.2022598

>>2019215
> life is going great
> dead inside

I hate you people.

>> No.2022604

>>2022573
Sorry.
She was a russian girl who was in the same situation and I blew it with her. Thinking about it makes me depressed, so ill just drop it.

>> No.2022605

>>2019761
Sounds like he's using his modeling funds to buy drugs and he's going through withdrawal whenever he's modeling. By the symptoms it is probably heroin

>> No.2022606

>>2022595
Drawing 'characters' isn't art, it's illustration.

>> No.2022608

>>2022598
Thats what happens when you reach the top.
You get bored

>> No.2022610

>>2022606
Who said it was?
He didn't say that at all. Do you need a blowie anon?

>> No.2022616

>>2022610
Can you read? This is an art feels thread. If you want to cry about your shitty naruto sketch blog about it on your tumblr.

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>>2022616
You need a blowie anon. You arent thinking right.

>> No.2022633

>>2022628
Are you offering cause your funny reaction image has a very suggestive look.

>> No.2022656

>tfw you can't draw
>taking an art class
>everything is shit
>attempting ruins your mood
>looking at art makes you want to die because if you ever get there it will be ages before you can even begin to attempt to enjoy yourself
>art feels

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>>2022633
yes i am.
now shut up and take a load off

>> No.2023157

>>2022608
>reached the top
No anon you have only reached the the ceiling of your room
Now you must go outside and reach for the sky

That's why you feel dead inside, you have stopped progressing

>> No.2023168

>>2022666
>>>/r9k/

>> No.2023223

>>2022656
>write a long ass motivational speech
>thanks to my shitty internet provider I lose it
>yfw

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2023269

>be beginner
>"Wow anon this is good"
>take compliment but don't believe I deserved it
>see other better artists
>try to make friends with them
>get too needy
>ruin friendship
>"let it fucking go"
>can't let it go because I feel terrible for being so needy
>get depressed
>art feels like it's getting worse
>want to die
Fuck social anxiety

>> No.2023271

>>2021069
Tetris?

>> No.2023275

>>2021724
you need to warm up for like 30 min before you start making the good stuff

>> No.2023278

>>2023269
If you were able to try making friends with other artists, then you don't have social anxiety, you moron.

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>>2020921

that feel

why do I take so long, why am I so slow

is there any way out anons

>> No.2023287

>>2023278
They were online tho

>> No.2023306

>>2023287
Don't think of the other artists as gods, that's for the sheep that they command. They are human just like you. Act how a friend would, helpful but knows when to put his foot down.

>> No.2023349

I haven't drawn in nearly 1.5 years after telling myself every day that tommorow I will draw.

Today I managed to nearly start drawing and found out that my bill went from 35 EUR to 100 EUR.

I literally snapped and now I can't concentrate or draw, I am going to die soon.

>> No.2023355

>>2023306
Thanks but the not treating them like gods thing is difficult for me. They all seem to be at a good level, albeit not happy about it, it's a level higher than me. Meanwhile I feel like I'm treading water even though I'm studying and shit.

Should also mention my neediness was so bad one guy only wants me to contact him about my art and nothing else.

>> No.2023565

>>2021507
That is so fucking evil

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2023581

>tfw tutorial bores you to death
>you yawn non-stop
>interested and inspired by the artist, but can't keep your eyes open

this is why i struggle to learn, my mind falls asleep and doesnt absorb any knowledge

>> No.2023615

>>2023581
First, get enough sleep.
Second, don't sit down.

>> No.2023634

>be me
>walk by a swamp
>see a drawing on a piece of scrap paper floating there
>pick it up
>it's some panda doing martial art
>show it to my colleagues at dreamworks
>they think it's a great idea
>I am now famous and rich

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>study intensively for a week
>take a one month break
>forget everything

>> No.2023648

>>2023644
>one week
studying doesn't last one fucking week
But don't worry bro, every time you come back to it you'll pick it up faster

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>>2019083
> >tfw perfect brush technique by mistake and you can't replicate it

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>>2019072
>Work for a while on a piece
>All right i can live with this, this is kinda cool
>Recheck picture after a good while
>It looks like utter shit

>> No.2023675

>>2023673
I fucking hate that feel. It's worse where you think it was really good, not just okay. That gif sums it up perfectly.

>> No.2023683

>>2023673
>>2023675

I don't understand why our brains lie to us though. I still raise my eyebrows at work I made a few weeks ago that, at the time I thought was amazing. Stupid brain. Just tell me how it is.

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>>2023673
>tfw from a distance your art looks okay
>tfw you come back to it, it's looks like crap

>> No.2023809

>That feel when wasting time expressing that feel

>> No.2023830
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2023830

>get to know this girl studying fine arts
>she lives in this share house full of art kids
>is p cool hanging with all of them, because i didnt study art
>look at their drawings
>they can't draw for shit
>i can draw better than 3rd year art students
>feels like joy
>mfw she does a major work of literally people peeing into buckets
>mfw she gets good marks
>mfw she has an exhibition and got a fucking money

Honestly fuck that industry, fuck modern art. Don't worry about making it /ic/ it's all about luck.

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OH SHHIIIIIT

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>>2023830
Fuck it all

>> No.2024006

>want to take an art class
>already practiced
>don't feel too confident about my
>afraid people will make fun of me because of my shitty art

>> No.2024010

>>2024006
Odds are most people in the class will feel this way. Some will even be worse than you, and if not outright, they will be in certain areas like linework, etc.

Just go.
If you keep this attitude you'll really damage your progress.

>> No.2024014

>>2023830
>fuck modern art
did you go to school in 1930 or something?

>> No.2024018

>tfw you finish your rough sketch and make a new layer for clean up. The first stroke is bad so you undo (this moves you back to the rough layer goddamn photoshop!). Hours later you realise you've been drawing on top of your rough and have to think of ways to mask it off usually with a messy end result. eugh.

>> No.2024023

>>2024018
The worst. I've started pretty much just drawing on top of and refining my rough sketches anyway because that's how I work on paper and it seems to be the only way I can get good results, but when I'm coloring or something and really need to make sure that doesn't happen, I often just make a mark off to the side then erase it, so that way if I hit undo I'm still on that layer. Either that or if I'm 100% sure I'm not gonna need to make any changes on that layer, I just lock it.

>> No.2024025

>>2024006
Just take it.
Most art teachers are always willing to help their students in order to succeed. If they're not willing to help, then it's a shitty class.

CGMA academy is legit. You could even look into your community college to see if they do any figure drawing and animation.

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2024120

>public school

>draw males
>"lol are u gay or something anon."
>draw females
>"eww he's such a perv"

FUCK

>> No.2024131

>>2024018
http://artillect.tumblr.com/post/46518161696/photoshop-consistent-layer-undo-script

I want to punch whoever at Adobe thought it would be a good idea

>> No.2024144

>>2024006

I have never seen another student make fun of a persons work no matter how bad it is. Anyway, chances are high you will be better than at least some of the other students. Believe it or not out there on the street there are people who have never even heard of Vilppu.

>> No.2024153

>>2024120
If you're good they will just 'mire you regardless of naked drawings. Source: me in high school.

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2024184

>>2024120
I knew that feel during freshmen year.

i deserved it though because I'd draw sexual shit in class like a retard.

pic related

>> No.2024515
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2024515

>think about drawing whole day
>dream about few cool things you could draw
>start drawing
>after a while you realize that it looks awful and you cant draw that
>try to calm yourself down by drawing something pretty in your comfort zone
>looks like shit too
>get that nauseous feel
>frustrated and depressed and spent rest of the evening browing internet

>> No.2024541
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2024541

>that feel when you finally figure out how to get good at drawing and painting and it was so easy all along

>> No.2024548

>that feel when i feel confident with my drawing, and dont want to feel that, because it will draw with it the other part, the self-shaming of why it looks so bad.

im not there yet to feel confident, and i should just blast that feeling away, so its not in the way. that way i will never feel unsatisfied by my lack of skills, and can focus on drawing an improving.

>> No.2024550
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2024550

>spent forever studying and doing mundane shit that nearly killed my passion
>learn there's more to art than being a cookie cutter elitist asshole that knows all the basic shit anyone can learn
>now i just draw how i want and improve in my own way
>i'm actually enjoying myself and having a blast
>mfw 99% of /ic/ doesn't understand the importance of just fucking around and experimenting

>> No.2024581
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>>2024131
>http://artillect.tumblr.com/post/46518161696/photoshop-consistent-layer-undo-script

Thank you so much

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2024608

>>2019072
>visit the Hitler thread on /ic/
>realize that Hitler was way better at drawing than I had imagined
>realize I'm worse than Hitler at drawing.

>> No.2024624

>>2021892
Sakimichan, pls go

>> No.2024629

>>2021507
>>2023634
FTFY

>> No.2024634
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>>2023673
>>2023675
>>2023683
>>2023806
>Commence art
>You get excited by something you've done relatively right
>brain stats producing endorphine
>You're figuratively tripping for the rest of the session.
>Next day. Brain gets clear.
>See art
>Yfw

Relax, and be criical (and dont EVER post it until the next day)

>> No.2024635

>>2023355
>have terrible anxiety
>too scared to talk to other artists because I'm a beginner and they're good
>afraid they secretly hate me
>fuck up my friendships with them anyway
can i do anything right?

>> No.2025016

>>2024608
But Hitler's perspective was laughable, and the few figure drawings he did are absolutely fucking gross.

If Hitler's a better artist than you are, then you're a beginner. If you're a beginner, you can work to git gud.

>> No.2025240

>>2021533
HAHA oh fuck, man. Fuuuuuuuck.

>> No.2025248

>>2024550
FUCKING RIGHT?????? Jesus Christmas anon be my friend

>> No.2025269

>>2020148
he's 汁 on pixiv

>> No.2025280

>get depressed cause not getting paid to draw
>someone messages me for commissions
>sudden inspiration to work on personal projects instead of commission work
>trudge through commissions just cause I wanna work on personal project
>finally done. Now to work on that awesome personal project!
>lose the flame. Lose interest.
>get into depressed funk.
>the cycle continues.

I know I should seriously snap out of it and be happy people are throwing their money at me.

>> No.2025521

>2d animation is dead
>no one interested in learning really to draw, they just want to draw pretty pictures
>everyone expects me to do the same, who needs fundamentals?
>why dont you have fun with art, all you do is draw stickfigures, cubes, lines
>i have to self learn, no one knows about the practical approach to drawing
>art classes cost a fortune and only do 3hour portraits

But most of all

>no one is willing to share my fate as an animator inspired by Chomet and Satoshi Kon's work

>> No.2025557

>>2025280
Not really. Comissions arent in for you yet. You aren't in the right mind set yet.

Work on your own projects, no matter how sweet that cash looks like. It will never make you rich anyways. If something gets you where you want to be, it is your own work. Work on your ideas and yourself first. Be independent, make your art independent. Let it grow free and not merchandized.

When you can shit out badass art casually and with no effort, then it is time for comission money. Everything else is pressure and wastes your energy.

>> No.2025561

>>2019072
that sounds like it's a good time to stop working on that piece.

>> No.2025826

>>2019072
Tfw I let comments from artists better than me get in my head.
>I'm better than you.
>You want to be in the art field? lol
>You should just stick to film
>You shouldn't be in art
>You seem more like a graphic designer

>> No.2025827

>>2025521
>Satoshi Kon
mah niggah

>> No.2025834

>>2020495
Draw more then motherfucker.

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2025839

>Watch an artist you know and respect give critique to fellow apprentice
>"Looks pretty good anon"
>Looks like shit
>Always suspicious my own drawings may look like shit and he is just nice

>> No.2025849

>>2025839

Good just means, "Better than the drawing you did last week." Chances are most of your drawings are good.

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2025970

>Be 19
>Have decent grades and a part-time job with above average salary
>I've always loved drawing and my childhood dream was to start drawing a comic
>My parents want me to focus on school so I'm afraid to tell them what I really want to do
>Reluctantly sideline this silly dream of mine
>Start getting inspired by people online making a career or just drawing for fun
>Living with my parents, want to move out soon
>My 3 friends points that we could all share one house with 4 rooms and split up the rent
>Seems like a good idea
>Decide to tell my parents that I'm planning to move out
>"Good job Anon you're becoming responsible!" "I'm so proud of my young boy."
>mfw I did this so I could finally begin drawing art without my parents knowing it
>mfw my parents think I'm networking and trying to build a career in the IT-field
>tfw can't wait to draw a comic after refining art for a few years

Did anybody else go through this route or a similar one?

>> No.2025972

>>2025970
You shouldn't lie to your parents like that, Anon. It can (and probably will) backfire.

You should have told them what you wanted to do.

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2025989

>tfw a pro compliments your art

>> No.2025994

>>2025970
>networking and trying to build a career in the IT-field
Huh same here. I'm good-ish with computers.....except for the networking part.

Dropped out of college 3 years ago, right now I'm back in. But since then I got into art, and it's all I want to be. The only thing holding me back from an art career and the dream of working at home is being gud.

>> No.2026004

>>2025521
You're not alone. I am you.
You should try joining an animation course, they won't teach you much and most of it will be 3d based. But you'll probably meet other people like you there who love Chomet and Satoshi and want to be the next 2D animation superstar.

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>>2021592
>>2025240
That means nothing, it's a dust on my way. I will achieve my dreams anyway and become a hokage

>> No.2026017

>>2021533
Does Valve even make games anymore?

>> No.2026025

>>2025972
Yeah I know you're right and I was planning on telling them eventually. It's not like they ever said no to it but, I didn't want to tell them because I can't handle there being a chance they get upset. I'd like to mention that my older sister had a singing career that failed, that's why I'm so nervous about telling them.
Tell you what I'll confess to them when I both fail or succeed.

And about the chance of it failling, I am fortunately able to support the hobby somewhat with what I earn. I have about a maximum of 5 hours everyday to work on it and I already bought most of the equipment under their nose before moving out. So I I'm hoping that I'm not completely falling into a pit with my time and money. But I'll heed your words nevertheless.

>> No.2026054

>>2025839
That's normal, m8. If you give feedback to someone you don't know very well you have to do it this way or they could take offence. You say something positive, then you do all your critiquing, tell them what they should change, and then you finish with something positive. It doesn't matter whether the positive points don't mean anything, like in your scenario.

>> No.2026057 [DELETED] 

Uh consider this guys
If a plan is designed for you to succeed how can you fail. Its not in the plans design for you to fail so how is it possible.

Just take a step back and look at what you are actually doing to get better and just ask the question. What about this can I improve? What about this method is bringing me slow improvement? Is there something really helpful I could introduce to this idea to make it 20x better?

And you just keep doing this until your idea on improving is so good that it doesn't fail you. You're not stupid. The closer you get to figuring out how to improve quickly and reliably and easily the less you have to figure out before you figure it out. The problem only becomes easier to solve the more you figure out about it.


So just stop what you're doing and focus on upgrading how you're deciding to get better.
You should not be struggling with improvement. Slay that demon now because if you keep like you are now you will continue to improve slowly and take years longer to get good or never get good at all.

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>>2019072
Ok i have one serious one.
>start drawing in 2007 after leaving your office work
>gain so much skills after 3 years
>even super professional people who avoided or laughed at your skills back in 2006, apllause you and add you everywhere
>work in a videogame industry
>2013
>out of no reason im leaving drawing because of depression. i can't explain why, may be because i live alone and have no friends or may be because i draw unpopular stuff (no cute things, not so many girls, mostly experimental character designs and fanarts on some autistic stuff, people like me but i still wish i was a bit more "normal" because i see how much stuff other artists achieve at my level just because they tend to draw things that have more "power" in society)
>2014. didn't do that much. Literally only few things. And some things for Ipad games here and there.
>2015, March. Working on a bigger project for an ipad game, returning for my "true self", keep promising myself i will not compare my vision to other people and become an artist again.
What the fuck..i literally erased 1.5 year of my art life because of depression.
It also had some negative leftovers - it's still hard to me to start drawing. When i go and sit...i instantly stand up and want to go away from my PC because of some shitty unexplained feels...
I tend to think it's because i have no friends to talk to. Through my life everybody i knew, hated artists and art. I can be an artist only in the internet when in freelancing or posting stuff to DA.

>> No.2026112

>>2025970
When I was 17 I finally told my parents I wanted to work in the comic book industry. They got VERY upset (even though we live in goddamn France, where bande-dessinée exists, and where I could have gone to that one art school in Angoulême which is rumored to be good), told me I'd never make it. As a result, I'm studying literature in order to become a teacher.
>implying I'll stop drawing and writing though
If I become a French teacher I can try to get a job in the US, thus live here and send submissions to smaller publishers and hope to someday get my stuff published.

I know my parents didn't let me study art because they were scared for my future, but it still feels bad to know they're convinced I'll never make it. They don't even look at my drawings, so it's not like they can know.

>> No.2026114

>>2026073

pls post your DA or something

>> No.2026120

>>2026017
If not, then what?

>> No.2026121

>animating student films
>improve month by month so scenes from last semester are cringeworthy and recent ones are good
>no time for redo

>> No.2026123
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>that feel when no art rival friend who is slightly better than you so you can learn faster and stay motivated

>> No.2026126
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>professional art life is just going out to eat with nerds and look at sketchbooks of people and pretend you're having fun

>> No.2026135

>>2026126
The commercial art life maybe.

>> No.2026143
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2026143

All I want is a bunch of art friends who are better than me, an empty house-studio in a small village near a forest, and a shitload of painting and drawing material, then just spend years there painting and getting good and creating awesome shit.

Is this dream possible? How do I even start?

>> No.2026146

>>2026126
That's why you drink alcohol until you start actually having fun.

>> No.2026165

>>2026143

Are you me?

I often daydream about living in a small appartment with 2 - 3 other guys, and we all just paint and draw the entire day, having fun etc. paying bills together, and so on...

Too bad this will never happen since I am studying fucking computer science because me parents pressured me because I obviously need to get a job so I can get money so I can buy a bunch of pointless shit while pretending that I am happy.

fml

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>>2026126
uhh

proffesional art life is traveling the world and the seven seas, drinking with people being naked with people bathing and having fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFNfdxm4BBE
You niggas need marko

>> No.2026400

>>2019072
bump

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>>2026165
>>2026143
Im the third guy.
See...we are three already. Like musketeers! Im fat and with beard so i will be Portos.
We can run away and live together in an artistic adventure!
Please say yes...

>> No.2026418

>>2026408
I'm waiting to find out how you got murdered in tomorrow news

>> No.2026480

>>2026165
>>2026408
yeah you faggots wouldnt get very much art done youd just fuck eachother in the ass all day

>> No.2026503

>>2026480

having a bit of anal sex between figure studies is probably very motivating tbh

>> No.2026508

>>2026480
>yeah you faggots wouldnt get very much art done youd just fuck eachother in the ass all day
Implying having art, videogames AND sex is bad.
I'd die for this.
>>2026418
>I'm waiting to find out how you got murdered in tomorrow news
your mother took that chance from me.

>> No.2026636

>>2026167
sargent pls

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>>2026143
I kno that feel anon. But my social anxiety prevents me from doing so.

>> No.2026883

>>2026874
You can be our 4th. Our younger brother that is a bit awkward and don't like to talk that much.

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>>2019072
>reach point in painting where all the major thinking is done, and all that's left is to polish and detail
>already tired of looking at it and really don't want to do it

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>>2026143
>>2026165

This.
Although im not really to live with, im obsessed with hygiene a bit and i freak out if someone uses my stuff without permission.

I just want to find a small studio house outside of the city and make epic cartoons.

>> No.2026964

Working and developing a webcomic atm. Things are turing out and looking better than I could have ever expected. My pron/nudes I draw still looks better.

>> No.2027231

>>2026883
y-y-yeah I just hope I don't fuck too badly

>> No.2027354

>>2019072
>develop characters/story over the course of a year or two
>making it better and better every day
>excited to start writing it for real and getting it out there
>one day suddenly realize that it's a lot like an already existing tv show/comic/movie etc. you like
>lose enthusiasm
>still attached to characters and story but have too much pride to confidently pursue it any longer
>stuck

release me from this earth

>> No.2027432

>>2026900
Yeah I hate this too. I have so many unfinished things. But I've finally made myself go back and start finishing them and I feel all the better for it.

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>>2024120
>draw girls one day
>overweight guy comes up to botherd and shit
>"can you draw me 3 pics of my OC?"
>hands me a MS paint drawing
>'k that'll be 15 bucks'
>"I-I dont have any money."
>'tough shit'
>he leans in close
>"Ill suck your dick after school"
>the fuck did this nigga just tell me?
>think about it
>i didnt say no within 3 seconds so the answer was 'okay'
>got my dick sucked by some furry after school
>didnt cum
>I told him to stand up and let the pros do it
>came in my mouth in clock speed of 20 seconds
>wasnt even fully erect in my mouth yet
>stood up
>opened my mouth full of cum
>swallowed it
>opened mouth again
>he was shocked more than me at this point
>end up blocking his number because of lewd texts
>'''why dont you have a gf anon?'''
>mfw

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2027453

>>2027354
i know this feel

>> No.2027455

>tfw you waste all day, then realize how much you want to be good at 2 am

>> No.2027459

>>2027455
this this this this this this this

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>>2027455
So much this, It's 1 am and I'm still lurking /ic/

>> No.2027488

>>2027455
>>2027459
>>2027484
You need to start having initiative I work all day and feel guilty about not drawing at least one figure during breaks or whatever if you are not feeling guilty about not doing anything all day you need to start feeling bad.

>> No.2027491

>>2027450
hahhhha

i've of another greentext story that was pretty much like this

anyone else have a screenshot of it?

>> No.2027494

>>2027491
You are gay and a faggot.

>> No.2027500
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2027500

>Anon, my boy, those are some amazing naked lady drawings you got in that there little sketchbook! I bet you must get a lot of phone numbers from alla' dem pretty dames! Norman Rockwell and Jackson Pollock ain't got nothin' on you, sonny!

>Like this one right here, wearing that pretty little swimsuit! Wowzer, she's a bombshell on the beach, and not the kind I lost friends to in Normandy! Why not take her out to the pictures or go for a malt together? A young and talented fella like you could get any gal to swoon for ya!

>> No.2027502

I suck.

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2027510

>>2027500
>you will never be a real man

>> No.2027515

>>2027354

Where would we be if George Lucas had said, "Hey, maybe I shouldn't rip off Flash Gordon."

>> No.2027519

>tfw you grinded gesture more than you did painting
>tfw the gesture game is tight
>but the painting game ain't a'ight
>tfw you'll never be ruanjia or that furry artist with the smoothest painting style I've ever seen
y

>> No.2027525

>>2027519
Do some still lifes anon. Easiest way to practice painting and understand light. Once you can do that it doesn't require much more mental effort to paint a figure if you already have gesture down.

>> No.2027533

>>2027455
this is me right fucking now

>> No.2027535

>>2027491
I'm not that guy but I think I know the one you're talking about. The one that has the guy say "my turn" right? That was some crazy shit but I really wonder if it's true.

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>>2027500
>Like this one right here, wearing that pretty little swimsuit! Wowzer, she's a bombshell on the beach, and not the kind I lost friends to in Normandy!

>> No.2027985

>>2027488
how do I start feeling bad? I don't feel good about it but I dont necessarily feel bad either

>> No.2028989

>>2019092
stop giving advice on /ic/ i would think

>> No.2029578

>>2027455
i cri erryday

>> No.2029592

>18 y/o
>currently in school
>want to drop out because everything is shit
>drawing and painting is the only thing left
>dont know what to do
>think about freelancing
>do everything to get known
>fail miserably
>cry

>> No.2029724

Here is my little story that I would love to share.
>started uni
>I am shit at art but want to get better and basically check if art is a thing that I would love to stick with.
>Have drawing classes , most of my classmates were pretty okay , better than me at least.
>2nd year started
>Asked how did they spend their summer , how much did they draw etc.
>Almost no one did.
>During 2nd year check their sketchbooks , deviant art page etc.
>I became pretty much better than everyone else.
>Ask if anyone wants to study outside uni
>No one replies
>Ask again after few months
>No response
>TFW no one actually gives a fuck about getting better in my class.

>> No.2029895

>>2029724
nice to know I'm not alone. I fear I am in the same boat as you, well at least it could change next year when I start my diploma year. I have a lot of ambition but am rather shit

>> No.2029908

>>2029895
oh forgot to mention, the few artists that are in my class. Just draw shit tier "stylistic" pictures.
kinda kills me knowing one of them can be good, but will never step out of his chibi style.
>presentation for the other day
>guy comes up
>blatantly says he's making a DBZ character
>"being done in a Japanese manga style"
>had to look away, cringing so hard inside.
thats it for my feels story.

>> No.2030552

>>2022666
Thanks Satan

>> No.2030850

>Never finish what i start
Eternal hell.