/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

does this look decent?

>>2008954
yes it does.

Drawing with your whole arm as opposed to just your wrist. Can someone elaborate on this for me? I saw it posted in another thread, something about drawing "long, straight lines".

[And highly cherry picked image from years and years ago, I seem to have gotten worse since then.]

I ask because upon drawing, I noticed I only really use my wrist. Wrist and elbow at most.

Is this wrong? Is there something I'm missing out on?

>>2008960
ty

>>2008962
Your elbow acts a mobile spindle and lets your lower arm draw long confident lines, opposed to chicken scratch that you get with your wrists; but this really only applies to large scaled drawings. If you're not doing anything past 12" x 8" you shouldn't bother with this technique.

>>2008972
I always work in over 12x8.

I've turned geometric is my problem.

>>2008977
ah, well I don't know much about this technique but drawing with your whole arm is too much of an exaggeration, and often leads to roughing out your images as you wont get proper lines, but you will get smoother ones.

Why did I buy the new Monster Hunter? I haven't drawn in two days.

Trying to learn how to render. just did this, not sure what to think.

>>2008996
I like it. He looks like he could be a monk or something.

Anyone want to see where 10 years of practice without fundamentals will get you?

>>2009007
i want to see

>>2009007
I'm scared.

>>2009007
YES

SHOW US

>>2009012
>>2009013

If any of you who have never drawn before spend 10 years studying Loomis or any of the sources that /ic/ provides you, and you spend 10 years every day practicing according to the rules of art... no matter what style you end up with, you will be infinitely better then I.

This is 10 years without those rules. Really, this is a lifetime without those rules. It will get you no where.

Don't think those who picked up a pen from birth have an advantage. Stop believing in "talent". You wouldn't say a surgeon is born with the "talent" to be a surgeon, would you?

Don't get down on yourself. You are on the right track. Disregard these books, you'll get nowhere. Like me.

>>2009018
thanks anon...i needed that.
captcha: artmo ...lol

>>2009018
Honestly, there's a few interesting pieces in there, I'd be remiss to call it "shit" because it doesn't look like concept art.

>>2009018
That's pretty inspiring, but your shit is pretty wicked. I like it, reminds me of Jojo.
>that nui
bleh worst girl

>>2009018
How the hell did you go 10 years without learning the fundementals?

I get damn near suicidal if I'm stuck with my drawing progress

This is my very first bit of art ever.
Any thoughts? Does /ic/ accept pixel art?

goddamnit. likeness is hard to capture man.

>>2009072
too much reliance on outlines, at this resolution they just take up space. you should rely on conveying form primarily through good usage of pixel clusters instead. The character is pretty stiff and fly-swatted, and suffers from noise caused by single pixels. you also want to think about lighting and forms to give give the sprite weight and visual clarity.

>>2009018
they are actually in a way art piece.
just not conceptual arts per se.
bet there are communities digging to this style

hello. art people.

I am a construction worker from hicktown I can hardly write my name let alone draw.

But I bent this silverware into shit.

been doing it about 2 months now.

I finally understand why art. It's because it makes girl think i'm interesting.

>>2009162
It looks pretty cool.

>>2009162
Whoa, nice work. You could probably make some extra pocket change from those if you showed them off to enough people.

Trying to see the major forms and block out shadows and light based on that.

I think I'm slowly understanding how to draw stuff from imagination, although I still need to work on rendering.

Hows it look?

>>2009176
Thank you artfriend

I will take your recognition as acceptance into this elite board.

I will no longer have to look at the poopoo threads on /r9k/

>>2009162
those are pretty good, you could definitely sell those. make a couple dozen then go to an artist market.

>>2009105
okay i played around some more but its just not quite there. Can someone show me where im off?

>>2009195
neck, brow, cheek.

>>2009063
That sort of thing happens when you don't have internet access and live in bumpkin town where no one else knows the fundamentals either.

It's like monkeys on typewriters.

>>2009028
Keep at it.

>>2009029
>>2009031
Thank you. I love drawing. Yes... but the limitations I have came across are endless.

>>2009201
i see them now thanks

>>2009105
Plot points, compare angles, measure in general. Using your eye to develop is good but I think taking the time to measure and get things right is better when doing a study like this.

Been a long time out of practice and I feel like my shit is all over the place. Just been sitting down each day and working through a quick piece, this is day number 5 or so.

first portrait study ever, though i have done a fair few animal studies. im frustrated. anyone have some advice? idk what im doing wrong

>decide to learn some shit
>get reference
>alright time to do some studying
>freeze up before beginning, have no fucking clue where to start
I'm cursed to do shitty doodles forever

>>2009395
Use a better reference picture, holy shit.

>>2009399
Try bashing out some random shapes and forms either with linework or painting, then pull some things out of the mess by firming up the form. Works wonders as a form of speedpainting. Will try and find the video where this dude just overlays the same random photo over and over and over again then paints out some characters or scenes from the mess.

>>2009395
>those eyes
Thanks anon, I just woke up my neighbors with cantankerous laughter.

>>2009403
Pretty sure it's this dude here -

https://vimeo.com/927695

He starts off with a photo of a pond to speedpaint a knight.

>>2009409
i know, hideous, yada yada. get to the advice part.

I doodled a character from animal crossing.
How bad?

>>2009018
Thanks for your uplifting post!

That being said you clearly do have natural talent to be able to make those without any training. Good for you.

Here's something I did tonight. It's going to be bigger with 4 people.

>>2009435
it's good! Keep at it!

Got bored and doodled some Jojo poses out of practice. I feel like I'm doing something wrong, tho. For some reason I like to draw in a flockmod, so bear with me.

>>2009468
I think as a bare sketch as it is, it's going to look odd because you're using a reference that isn't anatomically correct. Flesh it out and see what it becomes.

>>2009018
If i see anything its 10 years of attention to just value and color. Mainly color. Imagine 10 years of solid attention to color. With focused study and direction you could have some very unique and powerful art. Sure well rounded fundamentals are important but long
dedication will breed results always.

>>2009489
Another anon here, my main problem is that I'm discouraged when I take a step back and look at my roughs. I know its roughs for a reason but often I end up just closing the program and going back to vidya.

Anyway have something I'm working on in sai. Id love to figure out how to draw clouds for a different type of nebula in another piece I have an idea first, but I really should finish this one first.

Also I have zero training except from painting minis for a few years and skimming a few loomis books.

Started Hampton's lectures. How am I doing?

>>2009560
looks like you're doing okay. doesn't seem like you have much feel for the anatomy, but that's an experience thing.

>>2009575
FUCK ANATOMY

>>2009007
>sakimichan 13k$ patreon

>>2009583
>FUCK ANATOMY

It's important to learn anatomy if you want to draw porn all day.

how does this look?

>>2009621
pretty bad, it's not even accurate symbol drawing
look for some eye references to capture the shape

>>2009635
Are you 7 years old?

>>2009638
no, but thanks for the useful feedback i'm sure it's going to help me improve

>>2009641
you're welcome.

>>2009575
I'm the anon with the gestures. Not really focusing on the anatomy, right now. Just going with Hampton's gesture approach.

The only problem I have with his method is that it's really hard to do 30 second ones. I use another method for those while trying to apply his asymmetry and stuff.

>>2009635
The shading is inconsistent, the drawing lacks form and perspective, the lines are all chicken scratches, the grass is probably a default grass brush.

Learn perspective and practice until drawing forms in space becomes second nature. Use reference for your drawings. Don't be afraid of hard brushes.

Also, yes, it looks like a 7 year old's drawing.

>>2009560
Looks good anon. Confident lines and strong gestures. Keep it up.

Is there some kind of beginner program I could follow? I've been trying to to practice by drawing stuff that's on my desk, shading in cubes and shapes, drawing quick figures, but everything looks like shit. Do you just keep doing this over and over and then one day you get good?

Using the Stephen Silver App I did 5x5 min sketches.

Using 3B and 2B pencils for this.

1/5

>>2009860
2/5

>>2009863
3/5

>>2009866
4/5

>>2009870
5/5

>>2009468
you're not learning anything by copying a sweatshop worker's version of araki's already wonky anatomy.

infact don't study anime period.

>>2009920

Anime has it's merits but they're shit that a beginner shouldn't concern itself with. Anime is probably some of the better places for shit like dynamic poses, character design, and animation(durr). But if you're a beginner that can't into 3D forms you're better off drawing still lives of objects.

>>2009930
>character design

>>2009932
Totally beats slapping stock photo onto stock photo and coming up with hurr generic space marine.

>>2009930
what a load of BS

>>2009969

The good shit will have well designed characters where the lazy cash ins will have stock characters, no matter the medium. What's so hard to comprehend.

>>2009976

It's true though. If you can't draw a 3D object in space you have no business trying any sort of stylization or figure drawing.

Well you COULD try but it'll look like shit unless you get the fundamentals down.

How bad is this for someone that literally never draws? This is maybe my 6th drawing in my whole life.

>>2010016
bad is bad no matter how much you draw or didn't draw

>>2010025
Uhm yeah but it takes practice to become better, you don't start off perfectly.

>>2010046
if you know that, you should know that you're shit. you don't need us to tell you.

>>2010053
this guy gets it

I tried to do a 10 minute figure/gesture training drawing

>>2010135

>>2009468
When you study some of the basic Loomis books on cartooning, they are going to build form much like you are to imitate JoJo.

That being said, you are eventually going to end up with a terrible looking face. The chin is not round. You don't have to redo it but after you draw your circle and your cross through the center... mark the hairline, line that marks the bottom of the nose, and then put you chin in. It'll help out at lot. Draw that man a chin, don't wait.

You can oversimplify later but it is important to establish where every should be. With a chin, your man should be just slightly taller.

>>2010135
>>2010140
stop lazily drawing feet and pay more attention on the chest and stomach areas.

>>2010172
but I had a time limit of 10 minutes and it's the fastest I can draw, I can't draw any faster

Chiaroscuro

>>2010176
At your level, speed isn't what you should be looking for.Don't impose such a harsh time limit on yourself. Speed comes with the ability to make proper decisions quickly, that drawing is not filled with those. Invest more time into still life/form practice and take it slowly, the better you get at it the more intuitive it'll become.

>>2010177
I don't think you know what that word means.

First thing I've ever made in gimp, nine hours of wrestling with the program spat out this thing. I took a lot of shortcuts and I'm channeling badmancy with the left glove line work being literally just the right glove duplicated and flipped, but I guess I can sorta into art?

hey, im 18 and still in secondary school and was looking on what ways I could add depth to my pictures

This was a very haphazard experimental thing where I just threw watercolours on different spots to see how it looked

>>2010188
have another
Too much of what I draw is comprised of thin lines with little depth to anything else

Can someone post some decent rendering tutorials? practicing rendering now.

I'm a beginner but I think every beginner should learn from me.
Look at what I just did after two days of Loomis. Especially look at the X-Wing.
And the mouse. I'm further ahead than 90% of this board here

Trying Hampton's method of gestures.

I'm struggling really hard with the idea of not drawing the form (as you can see, I failed on that several times) and it feels like I'm being encouraged to make hairy lines but hopefully I'll get better at this method as I go along. Or good enough to learn from it at least.

>>2010222
Which of the 10% do lag behind from?

>>2010256
Those are looking really good. Normally when people having trouble with Figure Drawing, it's because of specific features they don't seem to be getting correctly.

Look at your drawing, what do you feel like is incorrect?

>>2010256
There's a difference between feathering your lines, chicken scratch and exploring the forms and restating your lines. It's okay to use multiple lines if it helps you convey the action better so long as you're laying them down with confidence and your strokes ate deliberate.

>>2010222
dat false sense of superiority

>>2010268
wat

>>2010200
Your handwriting is shit.

What are the simple steps of getting into digital painting?

As I'm drawing, I don't think I'm ready to add color to my drawings just yet, but I'd like to give them a little more life. I'm wondering how difficult is it to have a gray scale template for my colors, and where do I start?

>>2010290
In general, my knowledge of proportions and ability to draw faces at all is about equal to a sack of angry cats. With this method specifically...

I don't even know, man. I honestly am putting down lines - especially in the torso - without fully understanding why, because of watching hampton draw and being told to do what he was doing. I haven't made a connection yet as to what he is seeing when he draws the back of the spine in the complete opposite direction of what I would have expected. He says to draw the inside and I swear I know what a skeleton looks like but I'm not seeing what he sees when he looks at images I guess.

So right now I'm imitating without fully understanding why I'm doing what I'm doing. My gesture drawings before this has been a lot more of drawing the basic shapes that I see, trying to build my visual library and practice proportion. So I'm also trying to fight against the urge to do that instead. I do understand that he's trying to teach people to invent and not imitate, though. I am absolutely on board with trying this method... or I'm trying to catch the bus to get on board with it, anyway.

>>2010301
Thanks, friend. I will try to remember that

hi beginner thread since the sticky is down what's a study plan for beginners?

also good books to study

What do you guys think? Any suggestions for improvement?

I downloaded every Loomis book I could find. Which one do I check first?

>>2010366
Successful Drawing / Fun with a Pencil.
All the while, pick up a Perspective book.

Read Perspective Made Easy then Scott Robertson's How to Draw.

>>2010364

Look at references and do 20 more.

>>2010368
Will do, thanks for the help :)

>>2010373
I meant a bit more specifically, like pointing out flaws with the drawing :P

>>2010382
Truth be told, if you don't like Fun with a Pencil, you don't have to finish it. However it is a good book to use in order to give yourself exercises and things to draw.

Successful Drawing will teach you the basic fundamentals of Drawing as it goes in depth.

Perspective books will help you not just for buildings, but figure drawing as well when it comes to drawing people, animals, bird porn, etc. So make sure you get those things down.

>>2010383
Work on drawing basic shapes. Your drawings are flat because you dont understand how to draw a box instead of a rectangle, etc.

>>2010331
besides that, anything else?

trying to make a bird

i know they only have 3 toes but it was something else before it was a bird

i also put googly eyes on a scorpion. I feel this is an enhancement.

I also think I can make a sick centipede by making beetles and latching them together with the spoon handles

What happened to the the new W/ic/i loomisloves.us? It's been down for awhile.

>>2010322
>Which of the 10% do you lag behind from in terms of art skil. Can you point them out? As I imagine it's be easier to do.

This is the reference photo I studied from today. It was a fun picture.

Going through Hampton's Figure Drawing Design and Invention

Don't know how to properly use these books so I'm copying (by eye) useful looking stuff and trying to absorb as much as I can as I go through.

>>2010479
Do MUCH more simple basic shapes, (cubes, spheres, cylinders) it's very important.
watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uEtdDvK6Xo

And try to make your forms in right perspective. There is no real trick to learn, you must repeat this many, many times to get this right.

>>2010184
>>>/gd/

>>2010594
Yeah, after using these spine things, I really realized I need to do that. Thanks for the vid.

Posting today's pixelovely faces.
First is 1 min

>>2010346
Anyone?

>>2010686
2 mins

>>2010688
3 mins
Suggestions, tips? Have been doing these on a daily basis for weeks now, what could be next?

>>2009388
The rendering is all over the place but this composition is nice

>>2010222
You've got a long, long way to go. Especially to get rid of that awful mentality.

>>2010351
Oh, I think I know you. Question thread, right? I'm also on Hampton, same exact problem. That spine thing is confusing me a lot.

You've got really good gestures though, keep on keeping on.

I usually work with 100% opacity and variable flow but i can't get the right colors mix. I'm a very beginner in digital illustration, any advices? (obviously i'm doing exercises as much as i can)

>>2010815
lower opacity and flow helps

>>2009195
heads too wide

>>2009560
pretty damn fine yo its showing that you have an understanding of form and line pretty well. and maybe even movement
>>2009621
lmao.........

>>2009863
ugh that lady's ribcage is fucked up!
>>2009870
body is still off in torso area but nice foreshortening
>>2009870
this time its something off about the butt area... idk what it is but somethings off

>>2010407
scorpion looks terrible with the eyes.


first time here, any websites dedicated to drawing and teaching you to draw as you follow along?

i checked the first post, it has only a part of what im looking for, and some courses cost money.

Are there any tricks/techniques you guys use to practice for long periods of time, or is it all down to just pushing yourself? I can barely do 5 hours without literally wanting to commit suicide, and I want to be able to do more.

not sure if its worth getting crit on warm-ups but I'll post em anyway.

>>2010874
resize your shit! large files tend to crash mid way.

why is the sticky down what

>>2010353
see >>2010368

Can someone recommend me a set of markres if I want to do cartoon drawings? I want the colors to be very opaque but clean so that when I fill in to color it is a solid color rather than marker lines.

would basic markers like this work, or should I go for something more expensive?

>>2010874
You're really skilled!

>>2010896
Prismacolours are fine, just make sure you get decent paper as they tend to bleed a bit. They can also be revived with alcohol so you can use them at least twice before throwing them out (I don't know how many times you can revive them.)

That said, I recommend buying them individually for the colours you know you will actually use often.

Sphere study. How'd I do?

>>2011081
>How'd I do?
Bad. You don't really understand how light interacts with forms. Try getting a couple balls of different colours and materials in real life and painting them under different lighting situations--fluorescent light, incandescent light, multiple lights, sunlight, northern window light etc.

>>2011086
Second Study.
>Captcha: Wseee

>>2011151
Better! But I get the feeling you are copying how it looks without understanding it fully. That's why I suggested to set it up in real life instead of painting from imagination or a photo.

How do I measure a 60 degree angle on photoshop? Trying to figure out the Cone of Vision.

>>2011156
Alright, I'll give that a try, thanks for the info!

more study

>>2010981
Sorry super late reply, that means a lot to me thankyou!

>>2009847
this
inb4 well intentioned anons recommend some books that cost money

>>2011370
>2015
>books
>cost money
pick 2

im the guy with the fucked up lighting and square from the last thread. hows this?

>>2010407
go to /diy/ with stuff like this.

>remember the fun i had drawing stuff back in school
>decide to get good and start doing loomis
All i feel is misery and apathy, what the fuck.
I want it to feel the fun /ic/

1/2

>>2011614
2/2

are these pass or fail? i cant get the faces on the first one to match for the life of me.

>>2011615
woops

>>2009183
looks like you should be in the draw thread tbh

>>2008954
Looks like something like /fa/ would print on a t-shirt and wear ironically

Is there a real difference in a small intuos, a bigger wacom style, or a cintiq? I've thought of saving up for a used one and I also end up drawing on 18x24(I think that's it and it's pretty big), but how would you describe the relationship between these different sizes/style tablet?

Just doodlin'.

http://grooveshark.com/s/It+Has+To+Be+This+Way+Senator+Armstrong+Battle/53xRJ1?src=5

>>2011620
You focus too much on copying the shadows.

Remember anon. Draw from your imagination. Not your memory.

you gotta feel the shadows and light first.

Does that make sense? It does to me.

>>2011651
I have a medium and a large intuos 4/5. The medium is acceptable (I wouldn't get anything smaller), but large is fucking awesome. You need hella desk space for it, though.

>>2011657
but the whole point of the exericse is to copy. how do i even as really do what i cant even

>>2011659
Right now, I actually have my mouse and my tablet on the slide-out part of my desk and it's really comfortable but I can feasibly save up for a Cintiq and art is my minor so I can justify it as a school purchase but I want to just hear some personal opinions

Maybe this is more of a thread question? I haven't lurked enough to know if it's something that's often posted.

>>2011665
What I mean is that. Don't just copy it blindly.
Try forming it in your imagination so it makes sense, you know?

Ech, maybe some other anon can explain it better, because I can't explain my thought process for shit.

>>2011657
You're fucking kidding, right? Those are Bargue studies. They are /observational/ studies. You gave him awful advice.
>>2011614
>>2011620
At your point, focus on drawing than rendering out. Your main issue are your proportions, placements, and the contour (that said, the 1st one isn't that shabby and is pretty decent at your level.) I would do the more simple examples like the arm before tackling the head sculptures.

For things like symmetry and placement, do pic related with the lines. Measure up your proportions and landmarks (feel free to do that thingie where you close your eye and use your pencil to visually measure it a la life drawing class), and it will be much easier. Symmetry is a bitch by the way.

Continue practising.
>>2011651
Size is def. important, but you don't need that large of a tablet. Just don't get something small. Cintiq is a completely different thing (tablet monitor, save up for it later when you're more gud) and is more traditional as you're drawing directly on it.
>>2011607
Studying is boring, but when you finish whatever sessions you have every day, you can put that learning into something you want to draw. As you shouldn't be learning how to draw exclusively by doing studies, obviously.

>>2011672
Yeah, I like my Intuos 3 but it's small and I wonder if it would just be better drawing on a Cintiq than on a normal tablet because I'm taking traditional art classes and aim to take digital ones too eventually. Basically just the difference of feel between the small/large and cintiq type

>>2011675
Well, if you can throw the dosh for the Cintiq, go for it. No point in practising with a traditional tablet if you'll be using a Cintiq.

As for the differences, they're completely different tablets (that said, don't get the Companion 1 or whatever tablet that's shit.) All you really need to know mainly is that small tablets a shit.

>>2011678
Cool, just I'm a beginner obviously, so I think it's probably best to do it early.

Do you think it would affect quality any, as in like helping me improve my art because of the thing itself? I'm obviously not expecting anything magical but I think most Cintiq are pretty decent size alone and going from a small normal tablet to a nice thing like that, I just wonder what it'll be like.

I've been working on gesture drawings but I keep stopping to take longer on each sketch and flesh everything out instead of focusing on the motion and moving on.

Also Im using hamptons figure drawing book, am I supposed to be using some videos with it?

>>2011684
Improve, no. But it's easier to draw on a Cintiq than a regular tablet unless you've had a lot of practice with it.
>>2011694
Fleshing is fine, just keep it to a minimum (just forms/basic structure.) Look at Proko or Vilppu's gesture vids

I really don't understand cintiq thing (or any tablet with a display). I mean, i NEVER look at my tablet, and i think my neck would hurt like a bitch if i had to look at it often.
But it's just me, i guess.

Id rew this in my life drawing class the other day, My teacher says he can see a lot of improvement from when I first started.

But I still have to work on things like the faces, hands and feet. Also hair is a bitch to get right.

The thing is, I sarted class last year in september, and we are finished in april. But I keep making the same mistakes regarding faces and feet.

I draw the eyes in the wrong place, or too big. Or my feet don't really look like feet.

My teacher says to practice, which i do, but somehow my art keeps looking off.

Can anyone give me some guidance?

so I've been doing line and ellipse exercises, as well as learning about contour and perspective, for about a week now.

Should I do it for another week or move on to something else?

I feel like I've got a good grasp of it all so far, but what do I know? I'm a beginner.

female proportions study
how am i supposed to draw perfectly symmetrical faces?

the torso feels too long, but i can't point out exactly how to fix it, tried to shorten it from the bottom, does it make sense?
also no idea how to fix the shoulders
i can't manage to do line art with the tablet (just started using it), should i stick to trying with it to get better or just draw on paper and scan?

>>2012015
ayy lmao

>>2012028
qq

>>2011909
youre drawing symbols instead of actual forms study up on perspective learn how to use perspective lines to construct anything youre drawing.

>>2012051
>perspective in a front view

>>2012094
>no perspective in a front view

>>2009468

Got a tight schedule, and this work over took too long, so i wasn't able to finish the last one but you'll get the drtift, ope this helps.

some of my studies compiled into a gestalt.

>>2012111
is that muh waifu ryonen?

What would be the best canvas size for drawing digitally?
Since mine crashes sometimes midway and sometimes is too pixelated.

>>2012130
probably not, no

Please critique

>>2011842
beginner myself, but I guess your best bet is to draw by reference a fuckton. God knows it helped me a lot.

Any methods on judging proportions for the human body? I'n currently under going the 8 heads tall method, but how many heads fit in the torso, how big should the legs be, etc.

Any specific on that to make sure I got everything correct?

What's wrong with this head?

>>2012168
The strong yellow skin contrast makes it a bit hard to look at

>>2012107

Different anon but found this helpful, thanks!

>>2012168
something seems wrong with the oil colour-ish background next to the grainy colors

>>2012275
Depending on what you're going for this is mostly a problem of symbol drawing. You should probably just start drawing actual people from photos/life from now on and your skill will get better.

Scott Robertson's How To Draw book is pretty over my head. I have no idea where to start with all these angles and the COV.

Should I keep at it or is there some other resource I could look into for the time being?

>>2012301
i think youd be pretty set if you supplement either norlings book or successful drawing with marshall vandruffs series and that alone should teach you everything you need to know about perspective. If you honestly want to know more after all that, then go for scotts book.

getting myself to polish my turds more
what can I practice next time?

>>2012307
Definitely perspective. Get Scotts How to Draw Book and work on your ellipses for the next 12 months.

how do i into rendering, /ic/?

>>2012314
First get Scott Robertsons How to Draw book which will build your foundation on perspective, after youre done with that then youll be ready to study Scott Robertsons How to Render.

>>2012301
Have you read Perspective Made Easy by ernest norling?

>>2012028
what that supposed to mean?

>>2012316
Do you have the link to the collection of books on tumblr? Cant find How to Render.

i should've started studying perspective, buildings, and landscapes instead of spending all my time drawing girls, fuck

>>2012459
That's actually easier to learn than drawing humans so you're good man.

Just keep going at it.

>>2012343
Looks like an alien

First thing ever, I know it seems really stupid but here it is anyways. I'm going to draw her friends who I have also planned next.

>>2012478
Nice attempt, but you should actually learn how to draw.

>>2012481
yeah, I just don't really know where to start

>>2012482
Look up a book called "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" and do each exercise except for the first one a couple of times.

Once you're done there, read up these >>2010368

Learn how to draw basic shapes which will lead to drawing characters. Learn how to draw those shapes in perspective which will help you learn how to draw those characters at angles.

>>2012486
that actually makes a lot of sense. Thank you, I will do this, I promise you. also do I do this with pen and paper or online

>>2012487
Paper and pencil is all you need.
Buy some generic printer paper and clip stand for your paper.

This will take you a while, so don't get frustrated... which you will.
Remember, talent is an ability where you can withstand the frustrated and stress it takes to become a great artists. If you can't take the abuse, you're not talented.

>>2012486
The self-portrait exercise?
What's the problem with it?

>>2012463
i wish it felt like it was easier than learning anatomy, but as long as i try (hopefully)

>>2012492
Nothing. You should do it, but no need to do the self portrait exercise multiple times. The purpose is to show you what level you're at and the changes you'll make once you're done with the book.

Funny enough, I've never done the final exercise of the book, so who knows.

>>2012496
Thanks!

>>2012252
Anyone?

well shit. my colors are pretty fucking close so why does my pot look so saturated? will it work its self out as i paint more?

>>2012459
eh i give up. onto the next shit landscape

>>2012591
Post the ref. I bet you missed a lot of nuances.

>>2012594
I exited out of the page so I didn't grab a more zoomed out screenshot of the ref.
I absolutely butchered the area underneath the deck, especially with the spacing between the wall and the bushes

Going to my first life drawing session tomorrow, trying to prep with some photo studies on A2 so I don't embarrass myself

>>2012597
Ah yeah you missed a lot of things. The lighting is very different on the photo, much more contrast and much greener. You want to pay attention to things like how the ambient light is blocked over the deck from the covering and so that wall becomes very dark. Stuff like that. It's also sorta backlit so there's some speculars on the roof and stuff.

So this is pretty awful, it's for a class I am taking. I can't seem to get a good picture of it because I haven't darkened the lines. Obviously unfinished...

>>2012611
I used a different color tint on purpose but I didn't catch the contrast and backlighting. Thanks, anon. I'll keep that in mind for my next one.

what does /ic/ think of my shitty drawing?

>>2012638
Loomis can still save this child.

>>2012609

practicing poses/anatomy. is this any good?

Someone may have mentioned something that i missed, but what is a particularly good way to practice proportions?

>>2012741
yeah start doing figure drawings now

>>2012745
isnt that what I was doing? what do you mean?

I want to make the transition from grayscale to colour soon, does anybody know any good resources (books, vids etc)?

>>2012753
depending on how long you took on them, those are really fancy gestures. gestures are usually done in 30sec - 1 min. it looks like you might have spent longer than that on those though.

by figure i mean this >>2012775

>>2012785
they took 2 mins apiece. so you mean painting them....scary xD

>>2012775
I remember Crl+Paint covering this theme.

>>2009018
I don't mean to bring you down and this is more for the people you are inspiring but everyone should also pay attention to the fact this is only the best work this anon has to show for ten years worth of doing art. Imagine how the works that this anon didn't want to show would look and how they might vastly outnumber this handful of pieces

>>2009635
It's like your trying to build a rocket ship while you don't even know how to crawl

>>2010222
i'm pretty sure this is all a joke but what fucking language are you scribbling in

>>2012799
Imagine if he had been given a book on fundamentals 10 years ago, he dedicated 10 years of his life to pumping out shit teenagers do on a bamboo.

You guys know of any beginner resources for animation?

Me and my co worker did this the other day, took turns drawing it.

how bad is the perspective on this? It was my first real attempt. Started with a gesture drawing based on a reference image, tried to fill it in as best I could.

Need to know what all is the most fucked up with it and where I went wrong, and where I did okay.

>>2012988
Sorry my brain wasn't working. I didn't mean perspective, proportion was the word I was looking for, my bad.

I need to become a pro in seven months, but my visual memory and imagination are long gone, why the fuck i gave up at some point when I was still fresh
the lines are all wiggly shit, fuck, i can't put the space, I don't even know anymore what i like fuck!
FUCK
I FUCKING HATE YOU AND ME
I FUCKING HATE EVERYTHING, ITS ALL SHIT FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU IM GONA PUNCH YOUR FUCKING MOUTH FUCK
I'M FUCKING HUNGRY NOW FUCK
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>2013040
>seven months
portfolio applications? we're in the same boat. I took a year off from serious art to fuck around.
we're gonna make it, anon. don't give up.

Any advice?

>>2013067
Loomis. Learn how to properly construct the head. Then concentrate on features.

I realized I never add a sense of depth in my drawings
How do I apply a 3rd dimension on people?
How do I say have a person with there elbow pointed to the back and make it look real?

Ok, I tried learning foreshortening from loomis figure drawing book and it looks kinda weird.

Am I supposed to go back to grinding the basics more or should I just power through it in hopes that I will somehow "get" foreshortening?

>>2012798
Different anon, but I've been trying to figure out how to grayscale. Wasn't aware about Ctrl+Paint till now. Thanks!

>>2013165
I would hold off on foreshortening for now, work on the fundamentals of the figure and perspective for now.

Should I do Scott Robertson's How To Draw and Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain before I get into Loomis?

>>2013324
Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain > Perspective Made Easy > Scott Robertson How to Draw and Successful Drawing by Loomis at the same time

>>2013327
Thanks

>>2013327

Not him, but what about fun with a pencil? Are loomis balls a waste of time?

>tfw you suck at drawing.

>>2013366
Nothing wrong with fun with a pencil but it isn't mandatory. However, it does give you an excuse to practice your excuses. If you feel you have nothing to draw, open up fun with a pencil

More gestures. Critique?

>>2012275
I think it looks fine, but what do I know?

Gestures

How is this? I'm trying to learn bodyshapes and poses, so hard.

>>2012817
I come from a remote country. I'm glad you understand I was being joking; you may be the only one

did some arm studies today. does anybody got any good tips on this?

Took a pretty big break but trying to get back on it.
probably finish this later

>>2012279
Racist.

halp please, is her torso too long?

practicing painting, I think the hand looks alright, any feedback would be cool

>>2013846
nose looks inappropriate for that head angle, tilt it a bit
also the shading looks off with graysycle
mmm about the hand, i think finger tips should be foreshortened

>>2013867
really apreciate it, bro.
any tips on the shading?

Does anybody have a good tutorials on how to apply shadows and values. I can shade the basic shapes but when it comes to more complicated shapes (e.g face) i just dont know how these simple shapes react in realtionship with each other, if that makes sense.

how is ctrl+paint's traditional drawing video series?

Any good to use as a supplement to loomis books?

how is this coming along? the skin just looks too cartoonish too me. maybe i picked a bad ref to begin with?

>>2008945
posting early WIP
Can someone redline the breasts for me? I can't seem to get it right.

>>2014164
Do you use the pressure sensitivity of your tablet?

>>2014181
not really i have a little bit with this though. only a little. i think i have it set tonreally not sensitive. why do you ask?

>>2011656

Slowly moving on from stick figures and spaghetti hair.

Still can't into hands or feet, maybe one day.

>>2010692
why do you draw that circle if you decide to ignore it anyway?

>>2010874
That looks really good man, especially the last 2.

>>2009863
>>2009866
>>2009870
resize your shit

>>2014179
Maybe move them together a bit?

ok, so i gotta draw a guy with an exaggerated good posture.
how...do you exaggerate that? 'cus i feel like the moment you do it no longer looks like a good posture.

OK BOYS, I used to draw a lot but I stopped for like 2 yrs. I want to start again. I WANT TO START WITH PERSPECTIVE. Any tips on whats the best source to study from? Is it still good old norling???

Drawing random shit around my house, and I had so much trouble drawing pillows. How do you draw a pillow to make it look 3D?

>>2014276
Norling or Scott Robertson.
>>2014278
Envision the pillows as boxes. Draw boxes. Transform them into pillows.

>>2014309
On my second attempt of drawing I literally just thought about that. Man, boxes are so useful.

m i gud?

>>2014353
No. Quit now. You don't have talent. And unless you have talent, there's no way to improve.

>>2014353
At copying? Not really.

>>2014353
You just gotta feel the blooks bruh

>>2009560
>>2013401
More gestures. Man, this stuff is burning me out.

>>2014444

If you are following hampton's book hampton is watered down vilppu. These aren't gestures. I would suggest you spend time drawing box and spherical forms then applying that to your gesture because none of the figures you drew have any overlapping forms.

As for the gesture you seem to be not using the 'feeling' it approach. It would look like >>2013503 (if that is yours) minus the stick man I see this person is using.

>>2014533
I am following his video lectures. No overlapping forms because I'm on the first week, those are on week 2.

I'll try your advice though, thanks.

Been working on my perspective and other fundamental aspects drawing from life and what not, but now I'm getting into figure drawing and damn am I having trouble.

How do I ease myself into figure drawing?

>>2014543
Don't listen this autist >>2014533

Here is my very first tablet sketch. Does anyone here know how to get rid of those jagged lines? And which brushes are good for painting?

>>2014595

You are a special kind of idiot, aren't you?

>>2014624
Maybe you?

>>2014631

What are you trying to tell me friend? That >>2014444 should skip all advice hampton put in the book and "find his true style" because X artist (who is skilled in all subject fields in art) has a different style?

>>2010222
are you fucking retarded

>>2010407
français?

I made a art

I don't practice as much as I should, and my enjoyment in drawing cute creatures and shortstacks makes me hesitant to study figures. That and depression mires me down so much but occasionally I manage to shit something out. I want to learn to draw clouds, foliage and buildings next, mostly to pose cuties in.

>>2012799
Bahahaha, you don't even want to know how many pieces of paper I've thrown away and how many great ideas I could not draw.

It's true. I may have kept sketches... but never sketch books. Those are the only pieces I really ever feel like showing...

>>2014969
Only 15? In ten years? I find that hard to believe.

>>2012988
I like the circle she's holding. I like it. I'm not an expert though. Don't ask me. for critique.

>>2014970
The lady with the weird eye/coral reef, the blue women with the snowflakes, the purple 3 eyed girl, the green/blue/beige lady, and the hands were sold. I can remember 12 others that sold that aren't pictured. They ranged anywhere from 15"x15" to up to 40"x60" for the largest one. The red and black one in that college is 30"x30". Point is, other then the hands when finished, my art only sold because they were big.

No, I'm not lying. I can pull out 8 sketches for you right now. 8. Not that I've only sketched 8 pages this year or ever. The rest get sacked. Some of these may get sacked. I'm not exaggerating.

Monkeys on typewriters.

Just trying shit out. Predator's fang, I quess.

>>2009495
Well, thank you.

I'm trying harder now. I'm studying Loomis's books now that I've heard about him from /ic/. That dude who starts with a V... or P or something. I find his studies way too confusing right now.

guys please help with my loomis
When the face is perfectly round I feel I do okay, but he says, "add the rest of the features how you want" and draws all these lines and the chin protruding out of the circle and shit.

Whenever I try to move outside the circle with stuff like the chin I feel like I am fucking up. Does it matter at this stage? I am frustrated that I don't even get this early shit. Please rate.

whats the point of loomis blobs anyways?

>>2015128
Your lines are very unsteady. Loosen up. Don't draw from the wrist and draw from the shoulder/elbow.

Imagine these forms in 3D space as if they were protruding out. The circles within the bigger circle are just guidelines of where the features are going to be. Keep doing it. It's boring and frustrating but it WILL help you in the long run.

(>>2015136)
https://youtu.be/8BdIvZk0WZc?list=PLhBKkQX9XSgfbMBvIvTDzDl3eHqF5_Fty

That should help, too.

I'm green as fucking grass, but Loomis is giving me hope.

Doing Scott Robertson's book How to Draw, and I'm on this exercises. It's simple enough, but I don't understand how you would accomplish getting the right side looking correct.

Every attempt I try for the right side, my mirror comes off looking completely off.

>>2015156
do you have the actual book or a pdf?

the scan that I have is pretty bad.
might just buy the book.

>>2015136
just to clarify what I mean is I feel I can do the starting stuff
>make a circle
>put another circle for a nose
>put lines above and below it for mouth and eye line.

and then

>draw the eyes cheeks, mouth, chin
It's like pic related, not that complicated but it's like, where did all these lines come from? I can just copy the lines he drew, but if I want to construct my own face I should be able to draw my own chin and stuff right? But I don't know where to put it.

Have a look at the ones on first page and you see what I mean. I drew odd shaped chins. In the book he tells you about the head being shaped like a circle but then things start moving away from being perfectly circle shaped without telling me what's going on and I'm staring at the book like what did he do? I wonder if I am just artistically retarded.

>>2015163
No you're right. I'm familiar with the frustration of going through that book. I supplemented it with youtube tutorials because, frankly, it isn't that clear.

That's why I linked >>2015144. Playing with basic shapes will help you in the long run. Just check out part 2 and 3 of that mini-series. Proko and Sycra are also good youtubers to check out.

Can I eat my ink /ic/?

I'm not sure I quite understand Loomis' ball-and-plane method for faces. Could someone offer a better explanation?

>>2015162
There's a perfect scan on CGPeers.

>>2015267
didn't even know this site existed.
Thanks

Thoughts on this? Shading placement, lighting, lines, (admittedly cartoony) anatomy, etc.?

>>2015203
lookin gud but why the claw

>>2012316
scott robertson confirmed

Doodled this for a friend this morning, what should look to improve besides the obvious lack of hands.