/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

reposting
>>2003996
spooky
The box that the babby is in looks weird.
Either way, i might save this for an /x/ related thread

>>2004127
warmup for the next ~3 hours of general studies

>>2004137
>(dont forget to resize+jpg before posting 4mb pngs)


failing already... srsly, there is no benefit to posting the full res stuff. it can only get you less feedback because people on phone will ignore it

Can someone find me some type of drawing guide for reflection spot in eyes depending on where the light source is coming from? Shits hard to find.

reaskig:

how do you get lineart lvl doujinshi? if i try to trace out the lines, i am not getting anywhere close, shits all jiggly n shit (and it sucks even when i am trying to do my own clean lineart over my sketches).

it feels like i am something terribly wrong

>>2004140
fuck, im not very bright. what are the ideal file properties to use?

>Haven't drawn since elementary school
>not even a doodle
>get the itch again
>I'm fucking garbage
e-everyone starts somewhere, r-right?

So im that guy who drew that shitty weeb picture last thread, im starting from stratch trying to find a type of feminine eye to draw that look good and is some realistic (Over exaggeration complaints)
Anyways, How can i keep consistancy? Mostly what will happen is ill draw one ill like then fuck up the next multiple before it'll happen again.
How are eyes? Im not going pure realistic/mix of cartoony but still liked to know how to make eyes more feminine
Also, what are some tips for drawing female faces? I dont know how to draw the characteristics of them, expect for a front 90* perspective. tips?

>>2004149
well if its just for getting feedback, you can go for 9-10 jpg. it would look pretty much the same.

>>2004163
9-10? I don't understand.

>>2004160
learn to draw real eyes first, you can only stylise successfully after you know the correct anatomy.

>>2004167
the quality slider

>>2004160

Can anyone provide that video with that Asian dude drawing lines over one another?

I seem to have lost it.

Anyway.

Pic related. Draw it to the smallest of details and shape. Make it looks as close to it as you can.

Actually, no.

Make it look exactly as it looks like, down to the minute detail.

If you start inventing shit or stylizing it to make it look "like my style", we will know.

DRAW EXACTLY AS YOU SEE IT.

>>2004174
Hm, like this?

spooky guy here. suppose ill post again.

>>2004184
fuck sorry thought that was smaller

>>2004181
See, that's TOO much, plus you squashed the image.
Do it like I did, I just used paint.net
>resized it so that the height was 1200 (keep aspect ratio)
>jpg quality 95

>>2004178
Jesus, man, are you trying to scare him?

>>2004160

Dude, you should start with your pencil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXeIf-fpawo

There's a lot more you can do than straight lines.

As for general practice, try Loomis.

>>2004190

My teacher was a Russian who taught himself to draw in a Gulag, with only 3 fingers. His methods were harsh, but they got straight to the point.

And I'd like to think they were effective. Pic related I made before my first year was up.

>>2004189
Oh shit. Alright. Thanks anon. I have taken note.

>>2004181
thats what you get with 9 quality?? no way it can look this bad.

you must have it all the way down. its 37kb !

Just got myself a tablet, anyone have tips for digital?
Here's a quick one btw

>>2004203
I don't know what I'm doing! That's why I belong here.

i noticed something, when i take plastic ruler (analog lel) and do precisely mesured 8cm line horizontal, and 8cm line vertical, then turn one 90 degrees, the vertical is tiny noticably longer, not much, just a bit, but its like that every time when i repeat it.

what do?

>>2004206
>Why is her hair black?
>Why does she have two eyes instead of one?
>Why can you only see one ear?
>Why is she a woman.

2/10, apply yourself.

As for applying.

Learn to manipulate your brush's sizes, beyond the obvious Brush Size option.

You can manipulate the density and minimum size of your brush, which adds more options.

Other than that, it's similar enough.

>>2004210
>Why does she have two eyes instead of one?
>Why can you only see one ear?
I cant tell if this is a trick question or if youre retarded.

>>2004219
It's a trick question.

AND YOU FAILED.

I think I have problem.

Lots of colors hurt my eyes, like yellow and blue and purple. But red is fine and I can see well. As such, my palette is limited, and I don't like that.

>>2004210
Are you saying I put too much of the left side of her face for the angle we're viewing her?
Her hair is black because I started it as a sketch and I just blocked it in as an afterthought.
I have no idea why you're asking why she is a woman. Because that's what I wanted her to look like?

>>2004225
few months ago when i was sick, i switched 4chan to tommorow after years of browsing with yotsuba on.

>shit so much better now! now my eyes finaly stopped bleeding!

>>2004228
It was a joke.

Relax. Draw is fine for what it is.

Why does figure drawing make me want to kill myself

>>2004247
Because you suck.

Keep grinding.

>>2004238
Being sarcastic and making a joke is two different things

>>2004269
yea and that was a joke clearly
btw mouth is out of perspective.
not him btw

>>2004269
Do you have autism?

>>2004250
Um excuse me science has proven that figure drawing is gay and boring cut him some slack

>>2004270
>>2004275

I'd argue it wasn't that good of a joke. I can see what you were going for but your greentext in >>2004210 could have been a bit more outlandish to get it away from "this guy might seriously be a critical retard" and after the apply yourself you could have said something to the effect of "lol but seriously..." before your legitimate points to make it painfully obvious that you were joking.

I hope this would be the best thread to post this in instead of making a new one.
I'm having trouble getting deffinition when I try and paint digitally, I don't know if it's down to the brushes I use but any pointers anybody has I would appreciate the help.

>>2004294
I have the same problem, pls halp

What do you need to learn to stop your drawings from being flat? Is it just studying lighting?

Any thoughts about my sketch?

1/2

>>2004321
2/2

these will be my last hatch/plates for a while. theses are a bit more complicated than the ones ive been doing. critique?

>>2004309
start using values.

>>2004313
interesting enough. save it and makes it better when you improve. the composition is a bit meh to me. seems like it would be better if you put the figure in a corner and extended the and landscape the opposite way

>>2004335
What kind of pencils do you need? I just have a pack of school pencils.

>>2004337
just use different pressures for now the darkest values are where there is the least amount of light, lightest are for the most.or try your hand at cross hatch like i did in the plates above. draw the basic forms (sphere, cubes, pyramids, etc) and shade them in different ways then move on to still life stuff that has a strong directional lighting.

i use staedtler brand. you should be fine with 2h, hb, 2b, and softer (B is soft H is hard). youll also need a sharpener, kneaded eraser, eraser pen. eventually my might want to get gum and plastic erasers, a brush for wiping eraser shavings without smearing, blending stumps, tortillons (or however the fuck you spell them), file etc. but the eraser and a few pencils will do for now.

>>2004313
>>2004335

Thanks for crit.
I usually end up around this stage with the majority of the things i draw. finding it kinda hard to continue.

Guess i should start drawing from references.

>>2004357
You should work on adding more detail. Right now your picture looks very lazy, it is messy and blurry and expects the viewer to fill in everything with their imagination. A good picture should take 20-40 hours.

Should I read Fun With A Pencil and Figure Drawing For All Its Worth?

How good are these books?

As an artist I'm seeing some pretty awesome improvement in myself in terms of my abilities as an artist but there's something I never practiced and its biting me in the ass now.

And i-i-i-i-its....shoes

Posted in last thread - Here is my progress on a digital painting I'm working on. I am still really shit at rendering things all the way up to any kind of realism, but this one is going better than usual.

Critique very welcome, obviously

>>2004436

Hang in there. You will be the next Marlon Brando of art?

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>>2004152
hello

>>2004436
Uhh..
When designing try to focus on design....
Lay off the blurry brushes..
Anatomy could use some work, he has 4 arms but it seems you have forgotten about the portion of the arm between the shoulder and the elbow...
lighting is weird..

anyway.. :/ did a shittypaintover.jpg

Can someone tell me on how to draw my characters better? I really need help.

>>2004477
i don't think so m8
(in all seriousness, heads aren't wonky circles)

Anyone study bridgman's head construction technique? I don't understand how the 4th line would work when the head is titled downwards like this.

>>2004570
Quote of the instructions:

>Number 1 line is drawn down the face touching the root and base of the nose.
>Number 2 line is drawn from the base of the ear at a right angle to number one, with no relation to the face as to where this line crosses.
>Number 3 line is drawn from the cheek bone at its greatest width to the outer border of the chin.
>Where 2 and 3 cross, start the 4th line and carry it to the base of the nose.
>The features will follow the number 4 line

>>2004570
what;s wrong with that?

>>2004477

>>2004576
The features are supposed to follow the 4th line. So that would mean her eyes would be tilted if they were to follow the 4th line

>>2004570

>>2004403

>>2004589
Thanks for putting this together, but I don't understand how that 4th line is crossing line 2 and 3 on your example

>>2004596
the box is in perspective, so the lines naturally follow the perspective.

>>2004593
...I should draw it over the feet...I always try just drawing the shoes

But thanks anon

Anyone have tips for creating very clear and clean line work? I like to start with a quick rough sketch of a character or whatever and then do some very clean line work overtop of that on a separate layer, and use that as the base for the rest of the piece.

I'm really not good at getting clean lines though at all. I'm sure more practice will help, but does anyone have techniques that could be of benefit? Tools, brushes, tablet settings, I'm open to try anything. The only program I currently have/use is photoshop.

>>2004705
Draw in 300 PPI. Quick confident strokes. If you can't draw nice lines on paper, you'll do even worse on a tablet.

A good exercise for improving your lines:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk

If you have sexy lines on paper but not on the tablet, it's just a matter of practice/getting used to the tablet

>>2004630
Ok I finally get it, I appreciate your help. I have to say he has explained it in the least comprehensible way I've ever experienced something being explained. In the end, I chose to ditch his method and go with Loomis' approach instead, much more intuitive to me.

Just got into drawing and spent the last hour trying to make /a/ eyes. The right ones were more of a warm up the ones in the middle and left are from actual characters I tried to copy by looking at refs. I only realized /ic/ exists and would like some input on what to do.

>>2004460

Thanks, yeh you're right now that I look at his upper arms they are basically just big amorphous sausages.

And yeh the lighting is a fucking nightmare... im having particular trouble figuring out how to get the shadows of the wings to cast on the other wings properly

>>2004442
hi there

>>2004842
Don't go with that animu stuff. Grab some reference photos and study human anatomy. You can still draw animu girls later.

>>2004842
>Tomoko
>Rukia
>Ciel
Fine taste

>>2004127
can someone help me to unfuck my values?

>>2004842
try to see the shapes, and not the eye itself

How are my gestures coming along?

>>2005255
I am happy to see that you bothered to draw the dick

>>2004577
This.
I like this.

>>2005102
Start using semi-opaque brushes dude. Or start with a line drawing and then block in solid colors underneath.

>>2005260
Of course.

I'm thinking of getting my girlfriend, who said she's always wanted to learn how to draw, all the supplies she needs to get her going for her birthday. But considering there's so much information out there, I have no idea what supplies to get her. I've already torrented Vilppu's drawing fundamentals and I'm going over it, but it's throwing out a bunch of shit.

I want her to figure out all of the details, I just want to get the essential shit out of the way to get the ball rolling. Should I get an easel? What kinds of pencils? What kind of paper? After that I'll just throw the drawing fundamentals videos her way and let her do her thing.

Please help me

>>2005392
teeth are in a straight line. in a mouth they're more like a U shape, search ref pics. therefore appropriate perspective should be given. and the nose is drawn as if you were looking at his face from a very downwards angle. eyes are uneven and dont forget that the mouth muscles do not let the cheek muscles fall over them, nor is the mouth plastered onto the face.

>>2005384
Please respond

Eyy, before I keep going can someone give me pointers on proportions? I know it looks weird, but i dont know why. Sorry for the shitty pic

>>2005451
Ribcage/waistline is too wide.

>>2005454
So slim down her midsection? What else, I need to be berated with critiques, I hate when my art isn't at its best.

>>2005430
Just get her some nice pencils, coloring pencils, felt-tip pens and art paper in the beginning to get your point across.

If you really want to be a honey boo get her a cheap tablet if she doesn't have one and download these books.

https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/5287545/Art_Books_-_Complete_Collection%5BUpl04d_By_M3nno%5D

If she does have a tablet then just download the books onto a usb flash drive. You might want to trim the amount of books down a bit so she doesn't have too hard of a time deciding what to do first, too. To that end zone in on Edwards, Loomis, Vilppu, Hogarth and Hamm.

Some of the books in this torrent are a bit superfluous. For example the "Fantasy Art by Larry Elmore" file is just a .pdf with a bunch of nice black and white pictures by the titular artist and probably won't serve much of a purpose for her.

>>2005451
>>2005462
Study anatomy.

>>2005395
>>2005392

Better?

>>2005467
Thanks for the help! But I have no idea what "nice pencils" or what kind of art paper to get. I have an art store just down the street from where I live, so I'm sure I could find whatever it is would be standard.

>>2005528
For pencils, Tombow MONO 2B, and Conte 1710 B. For paper, a ream of 24"×36" newsprint.


But that's just my personal preference.

I am working through Keys to Drawing and it wants me to draw a tinted glass bottle but I dont have any around the house.

Can I use a plastic water bottle? Or something else made of glass like an aftershave bottle?

>>2003322
>>2003323
>>2003324
>>2003326
>>2003327

I'd like some feedback on these.
Even if it's just "you're not good enough for serious critique yet, draw more life drawings", I'll take it. I just want an idea of what to work on. Gotta git gud.

Hypothetical question:

I'm sure its different for everyone, but if I'm a decent artist on paper already with good fundamentals (perspective, anatomy, etc.) how long would it generally take to transition to digital and do work on the computer with a tablet.

Am I retarded?
I feel retarded

>>2005653
Yes you are.

why do i find it easier to draw in fucking mspain than in photoshop?

>>2005653
I like the mcnuggies pose on the top left

>>2005653

>>2005255
Can someone kick my shit in?

welp. First post.
make me cry.

>>2005772
the ref

>>2005493
very cool

>>2005772
>>2005775
Hmm.. Ernteresting

Don't make me cry either, I'm just starting to do the art scene as of November, I've done alot of mediums but charcoal and watercolor are my favorites so far.

Study painting from photo.

>>2005828
pay more attention to negative space

first time poster, happy to hear any feedback

Reading KtD, pic related is the first project. I'm not sure I understand the purpose of drawing blind, or restatement for that matter.

Whoops, bumped the wrong thread.

Anyways, what's a good book to study that covers lighting and shadows?

Drew this the other day I have a question for you guys I am having trouble drawing human faces I can't seem to grasp placement of facial features on the skull I don't know what it is my eyes are two big my nose to long it's killing me I need an in depth guide or something on proper placement of facial features I'm not bad at drawing the features just can't put them on a face =_=

>>2005974
I like the face and frontal section. I feel like near the back you maybe lost sight of what you were imagining. I would extend the torso so it doesn't look like it'd fall over.

>>2005974
I'm no expert though. I mostly though I'd just say I like monsters.

Here's my monsters. You can see why I like yours. I am also a beginner.

I like mansters too.
And drawings that I'll never finish.

I think I need a teacher. I'm just so lost and out of my element; not knowing what to focus on and what to push through and in turn not being able to focus on improving. I have an end goal but there's fog and mist everywhere obscuring every step even though it seems so obtainable.

>>2006284
yeah same, except im too cheap

Anyway I could make the right hand look a little less flat?

Recommend me some good books for learning fundamentals or studying anatomy. I don't care how tough they are.
I'm going pro on this bitch. Fuck you.

I already got these in my backlog
Drawing on the right side of the brain
Fun With a Pencil
Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
Atlas of Human Anatomy for the Artist

I really want to move on to proportion and then form. Should that be reversed?
How am I doing on step one, gesture?

>>2005467
Is it my fault or why can't I find any peers?

>>2006284
>>2006290

Learn you basics. Get done with at least Loomis' Successful Drawing and Scott Robertson's How To Draw.

Save money for summer classes at http://2d.cgmasteracademy.com/

Take the fundamental classes. Get pushed. You're set.

>>2006413
What fundamental classes? There's so many and they all focus on one thing. And they're $700 each.

How does this head look?

>>2006545
It's beautiful

>>2006545
ayyy

>>2006545

>>2006545
lmao

>>2006545
It sure is something...
I... er... like it?

>>2006452

>>2004127

>>2006545
Does this look any better? I'm extremely new at this.

>>2006298
Have you read those?

>>2006588
Okay, let me ask you this.

What do YOU think?

>>2006588
Wow much better; I can already see the improvement! On to 2016!

>>2006596
Less forehead but still shit.

>>2006588
ayyy

>>2006588
It's scratchy, but how about now?

>>2006403
>>2005467
whyy? D: says one seeder is online

was gonna add a body and some other things but spend too much time on the head so now it just looks stupid..

How is my rendering/ shadows?

>>2006623
i know its meme tier, but read loomis

>>2006623
>>2006653
Will do.

>>2006656
I came

>>2006385
Can I get a little somsin-somsin?

Ministry of Truth decided to block i.4cdn in my country again. Your pictures are very dangerous.

could somebody share few photoshop brushes? im looking for something with sublte texture that i can use for coloring (dont wana use the default bruish all the time anymore)

more study

I shit this one out last night.

I know it's not great, but how is it for someone who just started taking drawing seriously about a month ago?

>>2006452
Click under Classes, basics are the top 8.
Some classes are popular enough you can download the lectures via torrent, however this defeats the purpose of not having a teacher.

The teachers are legit. When I took my perspective class, the only thing I knew was from the book Perspective Made Easy (which did cover quiet a bit). When you submit your work, teachers would redline the shit out of your assignment, giving you 10+ minutes worth of advice and exercises to practice and improve. Not only that, but they have live Q&As that has all the students gather up and ask away if they have any other issues.

Hate to sound like I'm selling ya' the class, but for $700 you get your money's worth.

hi guys.. I'm a true beginner.

Is there somewhere I can get like a sample curriculum list so I can figure out which order I'm supposed to learn all these things?

I'm pretty overwhelmed right now.
People keep saying "oh just do loomis" but he has like a bunch of books and something tells me some are more suited for a true beginner than others.

>>2006843

Honestly, you're better off going through shit like this first:

>http://drawabox.com/lesson/1
>http://drawabox.com/lesson/2

Now I know what you're thinking:
>le reddit

but still it's some good practice of the fundamentals and shit you're going to need no matter if you want to draw future fine art pieces, kawaii animu grills, or space marines riding dragons. It says to use a felt tip pen and that would be the best but if you're too cheap or lazy to get one just use a ball point pen.

>>2006856
honestly I'm not that big of a faggot to exclude an entire site worth of information just cause it's reddit.

Thanks. I already kinda know what I want to do in the future, but I was looking for something to help me understand the absolute fundamentals of art and this could be it. Thanks again and if you have any other suggestions (or if anyone else does), I'm completely open to it.

About to go ahead into figure drawing, and I was given some books. Vilppu's Manual and Drawing from Life by Bridgeman.

Haven't read them just yet, but I've also downloaded some of Hampton's lecture to get more info on this subject.

With all these resources, is it bad to review them all as I continue my studies? This subject is brand new to me, and I'm wondering by viewing all these, will I have "conflicting ideas" on how figure drawing works? Or do I need to review all 3 things to get the basics of figure drawing?

>>2006856

I spazzed out and forgot to add something:

As far as loomis books goes, the defacto beginner book to go with is Fun With A Pencil. Though I think a book like Keys to Drawing or Drawing from the Right side of the Brain would be better for a beginner.

Just remember to get the fundamentals down before you get into shit like figure drawing, otherwise you'll end up a lot more frustrated than you need to be.

>>2006864
>Just remember to get the fundamentals down before you get into shit like figure drawing, otherwise you'll end up a lot more frustrated than you need to be.

What are the fundamentals necessary before figure drawing? Got some book recommendation?

>>2006686

Do 500 more.

>>2006656
>>2006623
>>2006588
>>2006545
Read Loomis ASAP.

>>2006873

Just shit like line quality (your lines are nice and confident instead of fuzzy messes), be able to draw shit as 3D forms, being able to break shit down into basic objects, and observation. Keys to Drawing or Drawing From The Right Side Of The Brain would be useful to getting those skills down.

>>2006887
Different anon as I was asking about figure drawing here >>2006860

I don't know what fundamentals are necessary, but so far I've learned some strong basic perspective (finished up Scott Robertson's How To Draw book), finish Drawing on Right Side of the Brain and did half of Fun with a Pencil.

Think that's good enough to continue on? Only reason I'm stopping at half is because I'm not liking Fun with a Pencil and may just move on to Successful Drawing.

>>2004127
How do you guys prevent back pain when drawing for long periods of time? My back is always constantly hurting.

>>2006899
taking frequent stretch breaks

>>2006895

You should be good. Just keep in mind that the body can be broken down into basic 3D shapes (cubes, boxes, spheres, cylinders, etc). And that you're going to fuck up so you might as well get the stupid out now.

Okay, Loomis has helped me astronomically in regards to drawing. I have gobe through his video lectures countless times while drawing, and plan to continue doing so.

However, it is painting where my biggest weakness is (and my greatest push to become good). Are there any video or book tutorial series for photoshop that will help me to the same degree?

My paintings are awful when colour is involved - all I can do is replicate images that are posted in beginner threads in grey scale.

>>2006910
>You should be good

That's awfully vague, but whatever.
I'm not sure what troubles I'll run into, but I'll take a look at the studies I was provided and hope for the best.

>>2006912
Have you been to ctrl+paint?

>>2006882
I did a little bit in the past few hours.

>>2006930
What have you studied so far? Cause this looks like complete shit.

>>2006937
A little bit of Loomis a long time ago and some videos from the sticky. Honestly I'm just happy with how much better I've gotten since when I first started.

>>2006942
Progress is good, but shut up and watch this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ZLkyTuX_w

He's basically re-explaining Loomis' method.

>>2006946
Thanks a lot, I'm bookmarking these.

Any tips or advice? I got sick of studies so I'm doing something quick from imagination.

Trying to get back into painting after a 2 year hiatus. Am I any good?

>>2006971

Oh yeah the raven is referenced.

>>2006975
The stance is awkward, he has his head like, turned and leaned to the side at an unnatural angle and his features don't match the angle the head given underside of the chin being exposed to that degree which I think was unintentional.

>>2006975

He has an Egyptian pose.

>>2006294
Rotate the hand so that matches the arm better. The way it is right now isn't possible without breaking something.

pls criticize me

>>2007005
thats really huge.... i-i'm sorry

I just started trying to draw like a week or so ago and my stuff is probably at best like this >>2006623 guys and its really killing me. I'm worried that I'm not practicing right, how long would it take to get anywhere near like >>2006784 this guys level? It doesn't even need to be that good, its just really demotivating when I try anything more complicated than boxes and it turns out like complete shit.

Reading successful drawing by loomis and this just blew my mind. My art teacher in highschool said you either needed to draw from life or know some complex equation to get the proper depth perspective. I always thought that was bs but holy moly I didn't know it was this simple.

>>2007037

Hey dude, I'm >>2006784. First, I appreciate the compliment, even though by my own standards I still am way short of where I want to be.

Everyone is different, but for me, I've been drawing on and off for the last 3-4 years, and I started with Betty Edwards "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain". If you're a complete and utter neophyte, I highly recommend that book, as it will teach you to 'see' more rapidly that just drawing boxes. I only started getting serious about drawing in the last 1-2 years *i.e., doing it nearly every day), and my practice routine is still piddling compared to those with considerable skill. If you put in an hour every day, I'd say it would take you around 2-3 years to get where I'm at, just as a function of sheer mileage.

Basically, don't get discouraged. There will be days where you don't feel like drawing/painting at all, and that's fine. But you will have to decide whether you want to fight through that frustration/boredom/depression (which will expedite your learning) or succumb to it (not an awful thing, and something I am guilty of, but it has never been of benefit to skip a session). Art isn't like working out, there is no such thing as art fatigue, really. You can always stand to do more of something, and benefit in some way from that practice. But executing that is another issue entirely.

Best of luck anon, and I hope something of what I wrote will help you if you.

>pic related, a still life I did when I had an extra hour's worth of downtime at a coffee shop

ctrl paint exercises and some half-assed characters

>>2007037
Learning to draw isn't easy on the ego, you need to accept that you're shit and that it'll take time. Some days you'll feel like you're going backwards so it's tough on the mind. In the end, just be disciplined enough to keep going and you'll look back at your old stuff and laugh at how bad it was.

>>2007005
You're fat and annoying.

>>2007005
GIT GUD FAGGUT XDDD LMOA

>>2007087
>>2007089

I am actually a skinny short str8 grill so pls

>>2007145
are you cute?

i'm a male 26 year old kissless virgin and would like to practice talking to a girl who is better at drawing than me

>>2007146
Are you me?

sproutling here. should i keep gesture sketching or am i doing something wrong? i feel like my silhouettes don't flow properly and that my stroke is all parkinsons tier.

>>2007150
maybe
are you also a male 26 year old kissless virgin and would like to practice talking to a girl who is better at drawing than you?

>>2007171
Almost. I kissed someone about 9 years ago ;_;

>>2007175
normie get out

>>2007175
can't be that saddening. when i intimately kissed a girl for the first time, like not just casually lip smacking, i panicked and ran away from her while crying. i stayed at home that day watching pokemon not aware of how hard i spaghetti'd.

I saw my sisters naked tons of times, do i still count as a virgin?

>>2007169
are you doing that thing where you don't lift the pen? don't do that as a beginner..

>>2007176
I saw this coming from a mile away and still giggled profusely

>>2007179
contour drawing? nah i'm lifting it around and stuff

>>2007059
I like the side view of the spray bottle

>>2007146
I am so sorry to hear that.
I guess that I am passibly cute. (Anon-grill from before)
I have a brown bob cut, green eyes. 5'2" and 100lbs.
Wouldn't mind speaking with you but how?

>>2007252
twitter @sojuruinedme

you can make fun of me if you want. I'm used to it.

>>2007260
>@sojuruinedme
Not the potential qt grill but holy shit you whine so much

>>2007282
a lot of it is joking around with my friends. That's kind of our humour.

I want to start to animate some simple stuff but i have no experience with Flash. Can someone link me some good tutorials? I can't find a decent one.

Last night I had nothing to do and I made this.

Its my first ''serious'' drawing, I've never drawn before, what do you think guys?

>>2007324
better then most of beginners here

>>2007431
Kill yourself, dumbass

>>2007324

Keep at it. Draw more.

after years of graphic design i’ve been trying to get seriously into drawing for the last month or so
pic related is my first drawing from reference

>>2007748
reference

>>2007748
>graphic design
still doesn't know how to resize images

Just getting into painting. This is the first thing i've done. Just some abstract suprematist shit.

I find it difficult to draw on a tablet rather than paper. I have been drawing with a tablet for a few years now, and I found if I do not constantly practice digital drawings I get a more disconnect

>>2007765
looks like the s.korean flag

>>2007781
>>2007765
I thought the same

>>2007781
>>2007789
ha! I never even realised, that's a cool flag though.

>>2007748
>>2007749
Why draw mussolini?

>>2007754
sorry, i was posting from my phone

>>2007811
why not? he has an interesting face

>>2007765
feels slightly unbalanced, maybe the circle should have been at the exact center

>>2007324
I've made another one, this time I feel like it's not as "good". Body and arms look weird IMO.

>>2007855
And another one.

>>2006784
more studies

>>2007905
>>2007855
you should probably start learning to not make those little repeated little lines.

If you can make relatively straight long lines, it's because you're drawing with just your wrist and not your entire arm and shoulder.

>>2008043

Where are you getting your face refs from? There's some nice expressions there and I'd like to take a crack at it.

>>2008049
Oh, no references, it's all natty man. :^)

But for real, tumblr is more than just a cesspool for SJWs, it's also a pretty tremendous resource for references. I'm drawing specifically from:

http://fuckyeahreferences.tumblr.com/post/111679063543/devidsketchbook-different-emotions-by-mike

fuckyeahreferences.tumblr.com is pretty legit as far as just general artistic resources. I also like artanectdotally.tumblr.com.

pukes internally

>>2008061
Keep at it you inept shit! I believe in you.

>>2008061
its okay.
we're all gonna make it bro.

its about the little improvements that stack up gradually over time. remember that.

>>2008059

Thanks, m8. Tumblr is a place where you have to actively stay clear from the SJW shit, but you'll find some awesome as fuck blogs there.

>>2004208
are you measure out with the ruler? the fact that the paper is rectangle might be messing with your perspective

is learning actually that important? if i want to learn, should i just pick up a pencil and start drawing shit and just keep at it, or should i actually read some shit?
i was talking to some of my friends who go to art school but they werent any help, so ive just been drawing simple things, like the stuff on the table next to me. and hoping i get better eventually.

>>2008090
Yes, learning is very important for several reasons. But main reasons are:

You need to understand how form works, helping you construct your drawing from your own imagination/style.

Also, you'll need to understand the rules of drawing in order to break them. If you don't know what the boundaries are, how could you break them?

But there is such thing as too much studying. It is important to study, but don't forget to draw.

>>2008096
any recommended places for me to start?

>>2008102
Show us you're work, you sexy piece of shit. Don't be shy, we all suck.

>>2008102
Start here first of all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKFfSl-EBfI

Then I recommend picking up the book Drawing On The Right Side of The Brain

>>2008110
ive got nothing to show really.
unless you want to see pictures of my pens and pencils and and some really shitty slightly more complex shapes like curved tums bottles and my inhaler done repeatedly shitty

>>2008118
Then draw something, right now!

Here, draw me one of these birds. I have a strong fetish for birds. You'll be doing me a favor if you drew me one, regardless how bad it is.

>>2008121
ive been focusing on shading. pardon the wonky looking cube, i realized after the shading doesnt work with the shadow on that side.

>>2008127
Mmmm, ah yes, those looks terrible. But you put effort into it, which goes a long way.

For one, the square itself already looks off. There's nothing guiding it. You'll soon understand what the issue is.

Check out what this anon said >>2008112

Do these books in order:
Drawing on Right Side of Brain > perspective made easy by ernest norling > Scott Robertson's Book How to Draw while reading Loomis' Successful Drawing

Eventually other things, but learn this shit first.
Also draw from life all the while (like actual boxes, water bottles, your mouse, etc). Drawing shapes in perspective will pay off, since once you get into figure drawing (ya know... DRAWING SOME FUCKIN NAKED ASS PEOPLE), you'll have a great time drawing them since it requires you to plug in shapes to create human form.

>>2008133
i know the square is off, i didnt really want to get a ruler or anything cause i figured it would just come out like crap anyways, i figured a shitty square was better than no square

i really just want to be able to draw shit from books, so probably not much in the naked ass people department lmao.

Rendering practice, crits more than welcome.

Is there a book that you could recommend that really breaks down beginning anatomy and gives little exercises to do to improve? Everyone like, Bridgman, Loomis, etc. they have some really dry prose, then show off their anatomy skills perhaps the shapes but don't really explain or give any kind of guidelines to work with.

Dunno if that's just all they are or its just me but I just can't seem to get one that makes it click.

>>2008121

I'm not the anon you replied to, but I tried drawing one of the birds.

Studying legs via Hampton's "Figure Drawing - Design and Invention". I reference the drawings but also draw my own from different angles.

Am I learning the right way?

>>2008158
Forgot image

>>2008156
Bird fetish guy, that's a nice drawing. Keep at it.

>>2008159
Those some nice legs. Never read the books but I'm familiar with Hampton's classes. Are these from imagination or exercises from the book?

>>2008178
Thanks. I went ahead and added some light. I'm pretty bad at painting, though.

>>2008133
so idk its not letting me respond on any board. it keeps saying my captchas are fucked up. hopefully it works this time.

do you know any free resources i can look into?

How about now?

>>2008221
squidward/10

>>2004713
PPI means nothing for digital artist. The GPU/Software Scaler takes care of making the pixel density match your monitor regardless of the file's specified P/DPI.

Although, as a rule of thumb, its said that 72-98 PPI is a good setting for modern computers, as its a pretty standard set of numbers that closely match most modern monitors, so the Scaler has less work to do and can improve performance on potatoes.

One of many sources: android-developers blogspot /2013/09/using-hardware-scaler-for-performance.html

>>2007053
Oh yea lol.

My teacher was a great person, but really was the opposite.

She avoids math like the plague. Which was hilarious for me, as an engineering student; perspective drawing was always my jam. Nice and technical, nothing too subjective for me to wrap my head around.

>>2008135
no dude. Everything's off. One sec, I'll red line

>>2008127

random doodles, studies, sketches, etc

I think I have trouble with faces and heads. should study portraiture more.

>>2008308
It kind of looks like you're stamping flat faces over head shapes. Facial features should adhere to the head and have form.

Maybe you should quit stylizing for a while and try drawing heads and faces from reference so you'll get the form right. It looks like you did your animals that way and they turned out really well.

>>2008314
where do I start?

>>2008263
Based anon

>>2005255
>im not the onyl one that draws the dick.

>>2008316
I don't know if I'm totally qualified to give advice; I'm just getting a flat feel from some of the human faces from your doodles.

I can see that you're putting wireframes on some of your sketches for the legs and body. You could try putting those on faces to make sure all the features are centered and where they should be. Right now it sort of looks like you're penciling the head in first and then filling it with facial features, when instead you should really have a good idea of the big picture before you start making concrete outlines.

How do I achieve a painting style like Bittenhard?

doodled an AC favorite.
thoughts?

>>2008324
ok, noted. gratze mon freund

>>2006545
>>2006588
i'm sorry anon
but i'm fucking dying holy shit

>>2008121
Not that anon either, but I drew a bird a couple days ago in my notebook.

I have a question /ic/. I tend to draw with friends most of the time, and most of them are much more advanced than me, but I still want to learn to get their level.

When they start drawing some picture I tend to mimic them and try to do what they do, every step of the way, just to familiarize myself. Is this a good way to learn? Or am I just going to start relying on someone else instead of myself?

>>2004197
thats fucking rad

Well, I tried picking up the pencil again after a while of not drawing anything. I'm trying to go 30 days in a row without stopping so I can make it a habit.

But tell me, what do you think of this compared to my older attempt?
Older one: http://s8.postimg.org/6r66ko191/fruit_001.jpg
Reference picture: http://s9.postimg.org/97kgb6hsv/Lemon.jpg

Any and all critique will be appricated.
Also, from this, where do you think I should start on the One-Stop Beginners' Guide? The absolute beginning?

I was thinking of reading through this book on perspective I have: Perspective Made Easy by Norling

>>2008423
second attempt is only slightly better.
I would recommend the keys to Drawing, or just do a fuck ton of still life drawing.
But it doesn't hurt to learn some fundamental perspective, so yeah, do that to

Studying >>2005457

>>2008442
are you sure you belong to beginner thread?

>>2008438
Which one should I do first though? Or should I juggle between the two?

>>2008446
keys of drawing first id say, but you could try both i suppose. Different strokes and all

black feels

>>2008552
same fagging.

I just got a Wacom...
Where the fuck do I start? I'm not even good at drawing on paper!
Plz help

>>2006545
>>2006588
>>2006623
>>2006656
>>2006930

>>2008560
Put the tablet in storage. Grab a pencil and some paper and spend the next year practicing the fundamentals.

>>2008573
Can't I use that to practice?

>>2008590
I'm not that guy but I agree with him wholeheartedly. If you start with a tablet you're going to be spending more time correcting your lines and so on which will slow your drawing mileage way down. Put the tablet away for now, buy a ream of computer paper as well as some generic pencils and just go to town with those for a while.

>>2008608
>>2008573
thanks m8s

>>2004127

First time coloring with Photoshop, any tips on how to make this look a little more professional? I'm going for an Ed Roth/lowbrow sort of thing.

>>2008221
eyes are too close and too small. Corner of the eye should line up with the corner of mouth. His right eye is now inside the nasal bridge.

I don't know which direction to go with my stuff

>>2008740
Thank you very much.

>>2008755
How long have you been drawing for?

>>2008755
hi bobmeatbag

>>2008755
you clearly are into heavy hands

>>2008755
>>2008787
hmm, hands you say...

>Tfw nobody critique you
Kill me

>>2008279
oh yeah i realized afterwards that i fucked up the darkness of shading the sides. thats why i have those outlines, where the shadow would be.
i probably could have fixed it but usually when i try to go back i just make everything worse

>>2008793
Dude, this kid. I've seen his art before. Is he like... horribly sick or have some weird mental disorder?

>>2006545

It´s not "correct", but it´s one of the most interesting pics in this thread. It´s actually a very good one, and I´ll download and save it.

Has that The Shaggs feel of naivety and sincerity over it, though in the visual medium.

Fuck these other people, they don´t understand aesthetic sensibility. Find your own style and be confident in what you wish to express.

>>2004160
>>2004160
try lighter lines

+curvy +thin = +feminine

agreeing with other replies start with trying to draw realistically and then deviate from there to what's comfortable for you = +consistency

>>2006930

This is really good as well. Has much more energy than the other shit in this thread. Don´t doubt it.

>>2008824
going by your logic, giger is horribly sick or has some weird mental disorder.


its just some guy doing shit thats out of most peoples comfort zone.

What is the thread study?

>>2008797
It isn't just lighting you fucked up. The overall structure of each shape is completely off. You'll learn all this in your studies on how to correctly each make shape.

A sequence I did, I believe each pose was about 3 minutes. How does it look?

how do yall think I did on the boobs
I'm trying to practice with making them look like the natural bags of fat that they are

>>2008841
what should i read to learn to do better?

>>2008844
Woah, that's pretty cool.

Are you sure that you belong in a "beginner thread"?

Is this ok for a beginner?

>>2008878
not anime enough

>>2008878
Neck looks weird

>>2008857
Are you kidding? You were just given a list of books to read and what order.

>>2008878
eyebrows pls

>>2008887

>>2008193
i cant afford to go buy 3 or 4 books right now, even though i do appreciate the recommendations.

>>2008826
>>2008828
That's really interesting, I guess I'll try to keep as much of my own style as I can as I learn more.

>>2008892
Scroll up and look, you were given full recommendations and what to expect. You can simply download the books.

>>2008878
Not bad for a beginner, but you should try reading Loomis.

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>>2008945

>>2008945

>>2008945

>>2008947
>making a new thread when we're only on page 2 of a slow board
For what purpose.

>>2008388
are you blindly copying them without thinking about why they are doing the things they are doing?

>>2008724
do the lineart in photoshop too. also better perspective on the wheels and car, as well as the eyes and tongue so that they are going behind his head and not to the side

>>2004197
Noice