/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1999850
Grow your audience first, most people will get 100 followers on what ever site and start a patreon, I would say wait till your at least 2000-6000 followers to start a patreon, only about >10 percent will probaby donate.

>>1999854
I have 3k followers.
What should I offer on patreon?

>>1999856
if you have no standards:
-raffle commision slots
things you can have pride in, but take a lot more effort:
-exclusive behind-the-scene videos/process videos
-stickers
-giveaways of poster size prints of your artwork

>>1999856
who is your audience?
12-16 year old anime fans?
20+ furries
rich nerds?
or maybe all ages?
also girls are more likely to spend cash on crap. so selling things is a good idea with a largely female audience

I want to be good like Sakimichan

>>1999854
I hear this often and it kinda makes sense. However, what would be the harm in starting your patreon too early?

>>1999850

consistency is the key

>>2000183
People are starting to get sick of every noob artist and their mother starting a patreon. They are much more forgiving if you are already popular and can actually offer something they enjoy seeing. Like process videos, sketches, tutorials etc.

>>2000270
I started mine early, and I don't see the harm in it. I only have one person (which is a friend) but it makes me keep up on my shit and post it consistently.

>>2000270
He's right

>>2000270
Applies to pretty much every "business"
Prove that you're legit before asking them to invest in you.

>>2000174
I still can't get over the fact that she makes 34k a month, and that's not counting her actual job.
I bet she's like: "Oh don't bother with the paycheck. I make ten times more just by drawing on my spare time."

>>2000576
It's actually at 35,500$ now.

>>2000576
I can't believe she's making 34k/month and doesn't think that's enough, resorting to porn for more shekels.

>>2000599
Porn? You mean that Bayonetta portrait where she's showing her tits? That's hardly porn, mate.

>>2000174
Proof that anatomy doesn't mean as much as rendering.

>>2000631
Dont be jelly, her anatomy is not that bad, shes aiming for pleb fans so what do you expect?

1. Make a portfolio site. DA, Tumblr, Facebook, etc.
2. Submit to curated blogs or forums to get exposure. Eatsleepdraw, polycount, penny arcade, etc
3. Make a few YouTube videos to test the waters (process videos, nothing tutorial like)
4. Start taking cheap easy commissions, something you can do in a day
5. Monitor comments and use your blog to build a rapport with followers
6.Keep doing 1-5 for about a year. Stay consistent.
7. Start a Patreon. Pimp it on your sites and anywhere else you are welcomed.


It goes without saying your work should be original and skillfully executed. Everything else is marketing.

>>2000640
I'm not jealous, she's a genius.
Makes me feel like we're all gonna make it.

>>2000631
Bitch please. She's better at anatomy than you'll ever be.

>>2000674
If you can't see what's wrong with the anatomy in,
>>2000174

Then you're not gonna make it.

>>2000675
Stay jealous.
You will never become a pro.

>>2000676
I already am a pro.

>>2000677
Post your work.

>>2000675
What's wrong?
Educate us, pro.

>>2000678
Anon, you don't need to speak on Sakimichan's behalf. You sound incredibly juvenile.

>>2000679
Almost everything is wrong with the anatomy, but the worst is the hand.

>>2000682
>what is exaggeration
>what is stylization

>>2000686
>MUH STYLE

Cancer.

>>2000687
Right

>>2000690
So it's a style to not draw hands properly?
Okay.

Ha ha ha that sameface holy shit
How the fuck does this guy make 10k a month on patreon?

>>2000675
If you were actually an artist, you'd know that it's quite easy to lose the drawing when you are rendering, even for experienced artists who know what they are doing. Sakimichan clearly knows how to draw, her anatomy is decent, she understands perspective and volume. Also, I am pretty sure if Sakimichan saw your work, she could also pinpoint plenty of anatomy problems. It's very easy to see flaws in someone else's work. It's much harder to see it in your own. Every little noobie on /ic/ is an anatomy master in his own fantasy world.

>>2000692
Not everything has to be photorealistic, you know?

>>2000692
No, she butchered that hand, probably because she lost the drawing during the painting process and thought it wasn't important enough of a focal point to bother saving it. The point is, you don't have to be an autistic retard about it, just because someone makes a mistake doesn't mean they don't know how to do it properly.

She's better at drawing and anatomy than you are and that makes you mad because it was the one thing you thought you could feel superior over artists like her.

>>2000698

Not being able to draw realism correctly is a sign of a hack. 2/10 took the bait anyway cause I'm tired of hearing the same goddamn arguments over and over without anyone calling them out on their shit.

>>2000697
You are one delusional nigger.
I never claimed to be an anatomy master.
The only point I was making was you can draw something with fucked up anatomy and hide it (from idiots like you) with good rendering, and make a profit.

I'm not saying i'm better than her, i'm not saying i'm better than anyone. You're just so insecure about your own work you need to assume i'm a shitty artist for some reason.

If you asked her what she thinks of the anatomy in that picture, she will tell you everything that is wrong, including that hand.
It's not a style choice, it's a rushed drawing.

>>2000703
>It's not a style choice, it's a rushed drawing.

I Know you fucking retard. That was my goddamn point. That artists sometimes make MISTAKES even if they know how to do it properly. Are you fucking stupid or something?

>>2000700
>My art btw

>>2000703
>>2000706
Just to clarify, there are clearly more than 2 people calling you out on being an idiot. I'm not the guy arguing it's a stylistic choice, I disagree with that guy and I made it pretty clear in my post that it's actually a mistake of hers.

>>2000707
>my art btw

Damn, you suck at art.

>>2000706
Are you
>>2000697
or
>>2000700


Because I was responding to >>2000697

>>2000707
>>2000700
Opinion discarded.

>>2000710
How am I an idiot?

I never said she draws shitty anatomy. That mongoloid took it that way. Now he's triggered and hyperventilating over it.

I said she's better at rendering than anatomy.

>>2000698
>her style is closer to realism than anything else
>D-DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PHOTO REAISTIC YOU FUCKING SHITTT IT'S HER STYLE!!!!!!111!!!1

>>2000707
Where can I give you money?

You sexist shitlords are just mad because a female artist is more successful than you.

>>2000732
We're all female artists here, anon.

And if you're not you need to pose as one to make money off all those lonely souls.

>>2000733
>We're all female artists here

That explains all the fucking drama here. That explains why I'm bleeding out of my crotch like a fucking fountain.

>>2000697
>she understands perspective and volume
o im laffin

Well shit.
I'm offering a free art giveaway to my patreons every month, but I only have one patreon.

He's gonna win every month.

How can I attract more patreons without spamming a link everyday?

>>2000743
Watch her tutorials.
She's good.

>>1999854
Even 2000-6000 is too little. 10-15k atleast. Then 40K+ if you wanna make a living off it.

>>2000754

>spending money on her shit

>>2000757
Getting too famous is causing me anxiety. There's a point you reach where strangers start to stalk you, and say horrible things to you for no reason. Things not even related to your work. Personal things.
I guess that's what real celebrities deal with everyday. Weirdos talking to you like they know you.

It's scary.

If girl:
>qt voice
>qt art style
>qt emoticons ^_^
>$$$

If guy:
>get gud
>no really, get really fuckin good
>stay humble
>lots of activities to engage users
>dish out as much art as possible

Or:
>gay fury trans LGBT samus art

>>2000174

I want to BE Sakimichan

All that attention ;_;

>>2000754
whats that site where i can watch them for free?

>>2000777
check em btw

>>2000599
My sentiments exactly. She's easing us into it with her "tasteful nudes" but it's going to be a full on sexy NSFW pack full of dongs for an additional 10,000 shekels a month soon enough.

>>2000754
If they're anything like these
>>2000676
>>2000678
>>2000674

Then I don't think so.
She literally only knows how to 3/4 view even when she tries not to, it's just sophisticated symbol drawing, and heavily referenced.
I seriously wouldn't qualify these as tutorials.

Since this thread is falling apart anyway, I might as well ask here.

How much money is there to be made from furry art? Is the furry fandom even as big as it was anymore? Etc, etc.

My boyfriend and I are both broke af and getting desperate, so... Yep.

>>2000900
I've made 15k off of furries in the last 8 months.

>>2000911

Wow. That's a lot better than I was expecting.

Another question, if you don't mind. Are furries easy to commission for? Or are they all bratty and whiny? Also, is there a certain aesthetic that they're more drawn towards (in other words, would "muh style", pic related, be acceptable to market)?

>>2000923
Some of them are real assholes, but I find if you charge more than $50 for a pic it weeds them out nicely.

They love a style that resembles Disney meets anime. They like their characters with a lot of fluid movement to them. (not like noodle arms, just smooth, and expressive.)
Very very few like "humans with cat ears" so don't expect to make a lot of money that way.

Strive for a look closer to Miles-df's ( I don't mean copy it) and LESS like pic related.

>dat human head
>those human lips
Absolutely disgusting.

I sell art prints for about $15 each, but they only cost me 75c to prints and not much more to ship, so I've considered giving contributors on Patreon that donate $5 per whatever coupons to get a free print, one every donation period, if they're interested. Seems like a great deal on their end and brings me in a small money flow that doesn't harm me in any way.

>>2000737
>>2000732
>>2000733

>>2000950
>find if you charge more than $50 for a pic it weeds them out nicely.

We /trifecta/ now

>>2000971
How do you get 75c prints?

>>2000985
How do you not?
I used to buy 11x17"s through Catprint for 75c each, which is what most AA'ers use, but I guess that's still a teensy bit more if you want nicer paper and after you account for shipping. Only a bit though.
These days I get mine printed by a local couple, only because its the same price and I have a couple hours turnover time incase I run out of stock or want to push out a last minute print.

I want to make furry art but i'm cautious about Paypal and people knowing my real name and home address...is there anyway of getting around that?

>>2001049
Business account, but that requires you having an actual business afaik and that costs money depending on where you live.

If it makes you feel better, people won't give a shit unless you send death threats or get into bad drama some fucking how.

I used to have a deviantart and all of that stuff, but i never post anywhere anymore. I don't like any attention, and I feel unmotivated to draw for anyone else besides people who are close to me. Is that all bad?

I have a comic on tapastic.com is it a good idea/viable to combine it with patreon?

>>2001101
patreon is good when you have either: a large viewership or a very dedicated fanbase. otherwise its not really worth it.

how many views do your comics get? do they reach that number consistently? what genre would you say you are?

>>2001109
>not worth it
it's not like you have anything to lose

besides your time, you mean?

whats the point of patreon? for your fans to crowd fund you. if you dont have enough fans to sustain your interest in patreon heres whats going to happen:

you wont post often enough, if on the off chance a few of your fans do subscribe to your patreon, guess what? you'll either have to siphon off time from practicing/marketting yourself just to sustain those few patrons ... or even worse you dont dedicate enough time to it and piss of the few loyal fans you have.

just wait until you can actually afford to dedicate time to it.

>>2001056
>and I feel unmotivated to draw for anyone else
You... do realize you don't have to draw for your followers, right?

>>2001056
you do realize you dont have to play the marketting game right? if you dont plan on being a professional just ignore that side of it.

i would still post it somewhere just for posterity, but just ignore comments and other social aspects of the site you post to

>>2001056
Do you realize not everything has to be good or bad?

>>2001137
>>2001139
>>2001140
>you do realize hivemind in full effect
kek, /ic/ can be so cunty.

>>2001162
You do realize you're the biggest cunt right?

>>2001163
I'm not even that guy, it's just kind of funny that all three of those comments started with a cunty, "you do realize?" I'm not going anywhere, so I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the daily 'tism on this board.

>>2001164
You do realize that those comments were made far enough apart to be INTENTIONAL.
As a gag. Clowning around.

The 'tism is strong on this board but I think you'd be surprised where it's coming from.

That said, I have some bad news for you.

>Being salty at others people success
So much of my time was wasted this way.

>>2001168
ding ding ding - well the 2nd one was actually genuine but the 3rd one was actually me again to capitilize on the humor.

>>2000824
That's retarded. Her patreon is rising by 1k$ every other day. There's no reason for her to change anything, let alone move to porn and alienate like half of her more prude/younger audience.

Porn isn't worth shit. Neckbeards don't pay for porn. Just look at popular porn artists on patreon, the most successful ones get like 1/10th of the money Sakimichan makes.

>>2000743
How do those gestures not show an understanding of perspective and volume you fucking noob?

>>2001224
But who if not neckbeards pay for pokemon and game drawings?

candy-ass males probably appeal to yaoi liking landwhale girls, but who in the world would care about pokemon if not the lords of autism that go beyond pony?

>>2000678
Aren't 3 and 4 the same picture?

Can one make a few sheckels of anime comissions or selling wallpaper art?

Everyone suggests furry for money, but shitfuck this is too fucked up for me.

If anyone here is maken coins of animu or other non gay/furry/pony sick pandering comissions I'd really want ho hear anything from your experience on that field.

>>2000711
where's your art? I must have missed it.

>>2000777
dear god he got dub trips. thats 2 trips
2 - 000 - 777
theres even a 2 in there.
half life 3 confirmed

>>2001139
>if you dont plan on being a professional just ignore that side of it.
That's the thingthough. On ic I don't have to worry about identity, so it's easy to be honest and not be influenced by anything 'social', such as the disre for recognition, to appeal, to be interesting. I just post what I want to, and whatever the result may be, I don't have to care. The moment I step into a social context, all those influences seem to be ever-present, and it's just uncomfortable and scary as hell.

>>2001256
Theres nothing wrong with telling someone they suck at art. I suck at art, and i have no probs telling people they suck as well.

>>2000174
>Sakimichan
She's 24 years old

Source: http://sakimichan-fanclub.deviantart.com/journal/Sakimichan-s-Answers-235491017

>>2001694
Sakimi is only 24? Shit I thought she was in her mid 30's at least

Most of ic/ seems pretty snob and elitist, it would be fine if you could just stay at your "fine arts" galleries and such, but you want to make money out of a mainstream audience and criticize those that can actually please that audience.

You really don't need to be amazing to get a lot of money on Patreon, that's true, but absolutely need to know what to draw, most people won't find some apples and a pair of boots an exciting art, but if you apply all those skills in a "cool" style and theme, you'll please them.

Think about pop culture, think about how can you make some cartoon, game or movie design even cooler, that's how you do it. Swallow your pride and just be cool.

Of course you'll need some skills for that, just good ideas won't make it alone, even if you're a hater, it's obvious that Sakimichan, for example, can pull off some nice looking pictures.

>>2001415
post under a pseudonym, same thing.

>>2001224
Man, I should pretend to be a woman to get myself a money feeder...

>>2000174
The boobies! So far! Yet so close! Must! Give! All! Money!

>>2001704
swallowing your pride is not cool

>>2001784
Yes it is. I used hate the thought of drawing disgusting furries.

Now I treat it like just a job. Because it is.
And I don't even have to put a lot of time and effort to make lots of money off them.

>>2001793
thats sad man

>>2001768

omg 2d shiny titties im sooo horny my mouther is watering sakimichan i love u MOOOOM i need your credit card again

>>2001768

Isn't she objectifying and degrading her own sex to gain money? For shame. This is literally prostitution.

>>2001846
Nudity isn't prostitution

>>2001846
How is that objectifying/degrading?

>>2001801
I don't see how making $2,000 to $2,500 a month is sad.

What's sad is making less than half of that at a fast food joint.

>>2001846
It's ok if the wymeen do it.

>>2000174
way to fucking derail a thread man.
No like seriously I can't believe how easy it is.

>>2001846
Women crying about objectification is nothing more than their own petty self importance.

>>2001965
wat

Also objectification is an actual thing, for both men and women.

>>2001965
It's funny how these legbeards are against slut shaming for real people but will slut shame imaginary characters to no end.

>>2001968
Of course. My point didn't exclude men. You just don't see many men caring about it.

My point is that people who feel objectified think they're more than just an object. When objectively that's all they are. That's all everything is. They're placing a meaningless importance on an existence that inherently has none.

>>2001975
Wow man, so profound, so deep.

Are you 15?

>>2001979
Please. Don't trivialize my post in an attempt to seem like you're smarter.

I wasn't trying to be what you accuse me of. Just making a point and I wish those women would think more than 5 seconds in front of their vapid minds.

>>2001983
>in an attempt to seem like you're smarter.
You should apply what you've said to yourself. That was one of the most pretentious fucking statements I've read on /ic/, even if that wasn't your intention.

Also, that person was clearly a shitposter. I don't know how you even fell for that.

>>2001987
>most pretentious fucking statements
pic related

>>2001990

>>2001990
You are so naive to your own actions it hurts.

Save that statement in a notepad, and go look at it after... five years when you've finally matured a bit, eh?

i was thinking of making a game and putting it on kickstarter instead of patreon. the reason i wanna do this is because i want to make a pledge where i can give my supporters the game in disc form, with an OST disc, two artbooks, a figure, and a poster. can i do something similar with patreon? im not too accustomed with how it works. i was planning on putting it as a $100.00 pledge or is that too much?

>>2001994
Incase you didn't catch it, the "like you're smarter" wasn't implying that I'm smarter than him.

Him asking if I was 15 was a form of projection saying that only a 15 year old thinks of that and thereby looking down on me as if he himself is smarter than that "juvenile" train of thought.

what a thread full of good at nothing cunts

>>2002009
yet you contributed absolutely nothing you double standard dipshit.

>>2002004
You're completely overthinking it. It was just a plain insult because of how stupid and ~deep~ you're being. Get rid of that mentality if you don't want people to assume you're still a teenager.

This is the last post I'm making as to not derail this thread even further.
>>2002002
I don't recommend using Patreon for something like that at all, use Kickstarter instead. I'm not entirely sure why you don't want to use Kickstarter when you can do what you're asking for + a lot of projects like that have been fulfilled by Kickstarter.

>sakimichan
>girl with breasts
>can't even into nipple placement
TOP KEK

>>2002029
Or hands, or perspective, or anatomy for that matter.

>inb4 she earns so much per month

I don't care

Would this be a good idea? I was planning on doing studies of awesome pictures and paintings ive accumulated over the years and then doing something based off of that study from imagination. I might record and do some explanation of my thought process, have .psd's etc... Basically people paying me to study. Do you think people would pay for this? Basically a video tut of a week long cool digital painting? I do way more realistic/dark stuff than people like sakimichan-san-kun
>inb4 edges

I'm planning on doing this once I finish school. Is this a good idea? What should I do differently?

>>2000923

Pretty good bruh. You got anymore?

>>2002031
But she makes so much clearly she is doing it right.

>>2002035
That's pretty much what Kron does and he gets tons of money.

You gotta build up a fanbase to be successful on patreon. If pic related then you should be well on your way, I would imagine.

>>2002043
Doesn't change the fact that you can makes lots of money while knowing poor anatomy.

>>2002029
i will fap to this, but thinking on sakimi

>>2002056
How pleb can you get?

>>2002050
Osm, thx. I'm gonna do it anyway, hopefully fans will follow/trickle in if i'm consistent.

Also who is Kron?

>>2002059
Kr0npr1nz
Everyone on /ic/ hates him.

>>2002060
Ohhh the copy guy? Yeah, that's something I'm concerned about is I do stuff that's way less accessible to the masses. Super edgy dark fantasy xtreme..

>>2002060
Speak for yourself, I actually like Kr0n he pisses all of you off. How he uses chromatic aberration to cause major butthurt is genius.

>>2002071
I speak for /ic/. You don't belong here.

>>2002072
You don't speak for anyone but yourself.

>>2002071
yea, because its the chromatic aberration and not the blatant theft...

>>2002071
I think /ic/ hates that guy because he flat out plagiarizes.
http://huntlikeahound.tumblr.com/post/110187426924/hes-earning-2-579-35-on-patreon-for
even tumblr knows.

>>2002071
>weeb faggot who's undoubtedly been here for five minutes misunderstands why people hate Kr0n
This isn't the place for drama nor special snowflakes. Fuck off.

>>2002074
What he did was he copied off Animu and changed things to his liking and then made everything all shiny and bright, something that attracts the stupids with lots of money that made /ic/'s jelly wobble in the process.

>>2002029
thanks

>>2001768
there, I saved your mom's hard earned money. support my patreon

>>2002077
wow, that really really tempts me into giving up art and just sucking money out of 'tards on the internet. is there some catch that i'm not noticing? and how many images does he put out a week?

>>2002114
Fuck off Sakimi I am not fapping to your shit Art I will not give you that glory.

>>2002118
come oooooooon.

coooome oooooooooooooooooon!

if i still jacked off id be all over this shit. i can see the appeal.

>>2002114
to be fair though those nipples are shit tier. i mean im turned on just cause theyr nipples and theyr pink but come on. those look like plastic.

>>2002114
those tits look terrible.

>>2002114
Is that a highlight on top of her left areola? Way overstated, it almost look like a worm is wrapping around it.

>>2002114
God that's some fucked up anatomy.

>>2002122
>>2002123
She's a girl she can't understand what makes tits good. It can't be helped.

>>2002029
>>2002114

>literally can't draw anything but bust portraits
>35,000 a month? NO, I NEED MORE SHECKLES
>I know, I'll draw porno
>oh fuck I can't draw anything but 3/4 busts
>slap some titties on it, now give me your sheckles horny devianturds

So much talent and versatility.

>>2002114
>>2002029
ehh I seen better nipples on the topless males she draws.

>>2002114
thanks sakimi

>>2002114
bost your nipples pls

>>2002127
seriously though. have you seen a girl touching another girls tits? it's the most boring shit in the world. they don't have that hunger.

>>2002154
Because there is little to no sexual stimulation with that. In fact it hurts if you're too rough.

>>2002117
You can only do it till you get caught. After you get caught you have to do shit legit from now on.

>>2002159
>mfw I can't let my bf touch my tits because it's too sensitive and tickles too much

and then the areola is completely numb, like if you hold your skin under ice for a while. Feels like nothing.

>>2002165
>can't let my bf touch my tits

>>2002167
Not that girl but my last boyfriend was obsessed with my tits to the point of it being awkward and a huge turn off. He told me he thinks nipples are like little penises, and he got offended when my nipples didn't visibly perk (through my bra, and clothes) when he walked in the room.

Guy was a fucking weirdo. And he wouldn't let me fuck him in the ass so I used that as an excuse to leave him.

I forget the point of my story.

>>2002165
>>2002159
What? That's not true I play with.my tits from time to time and they get hard after pulling for.a bit it does feel good and it is arousing and I'm not even a girl

>>2002176
>I'm not even a girl
There's your problem.

>>2002159
Actually, most breasts are sensitive, especially the nipple. It's good for foreplay and such.
>>2002127
I'm pretty sure Sakimi is into women herself.

>>2002176
>>2002178
pffft hah

>>2002179
depends on the girl, my first girlfriend could cum from boob bobbling and nipple nibbling but my most recent x didn't get anything out if it at all. i used to bite her just to get a rise out of her, she looked so bored.

>>2002114
The light and shadow on those tits don't match up to the censored ones. Also great job not even trying to sharpen the blurred hair on her breast... not like the idiots posting here would notice though.

Really sad how people here just love to bitch and moan about the more popular artists. Shut the fuck up and focus on your art. Who gives a shit if anatomy is not perfect. The point is that she takes the time to draw, render and paint things and she is making a ton of money each month off it. Way more than many of us will ever make. You know what she probably isn't doing? Shit posting on some forum about how X or Y artist has bad anatomy.

Don't give three shits about her but seriously the amount of bitching and moaning I see in /ic/ over her is depressing. The best thing to do about something you don't like is to not talk about it and give it extra promotion.

>>2002185
>depends on the girl
Well no shit, hence why I said "most".

>>2002029
>that water droplet on that right titty
Sakimi is a fucking hack, but the shit made me horny.

>>2002129
Is there a single drawing of her doing feet/shoes?

>>2002208
is there a single drawing with non-organic material for the bg?
Is there any drawing not in 3/4?
Is there any drawing more than just 1-2 characters standing doing what appears to be posing for nothing?

do you think she keeps a folder of selfies to be used as photoreference for her lewd pics?

>>2002211
I can hear her accent and overbearing fobby uptightness

>>2002199
i wasn't disagreeing i was adding anecdotal evidence, :p

and i've only touched like 14 boobs in my whole career of boob touching so i could just be doing it wrong lol.

>>2002211
anyone can confirm she's a girl?
her chin looks pretty manly

>>2002216
I downloaded one of her videos from this cghub or something. There's a girls voice.

>>2002127
She should draw dicks and bulges.

>>2002241
>inb4

>>2002114
>>2002029
+1
Alright now sakimis uncensored shit is spreading all over the inter webs. Keep up the good work.

>>2002190
That's the joke, retard.

When you remove the junk covering up the anatomy, you can see how shitty it is.

Things have been leveling out, as I haven't really produced much content.
I know the secret is to make finished drawings daily but I just can't do it, I always get so bored of a drawing halfway through and I take long breaks in between drawing and not drawing.

I draw pornos and lewds, I actually want to finish some doujins but the same thing applies, plus, I am super perfectionist when it comes to making pages... and I never can live up to my high standards.

>>2002053
>those forearm bones
Whoever made that image doesn't know shit about anatomy either.

How do you sell-out on patreon? What style do people want to pay for? Furries and lolitas? Fucking free internet money, why not.

>>2002114
>literal boob hats
>single lactating tit theme
at least reference