/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

What do ya think?

life drawing i made today
took about 2,5-3h
critiques please

>>1993180
>>1994342
>>1994303

>>1995326
Can i ask you a question? Why not digital?
Just wondering why some people prefer paper. In my opinion, it would look better if you did it with a tablet.

work in progress, doing it from imagination, how does it look so far?

>>1995326
those are some very symbolic braids. really, the whole thing is very flat.

>>1995342
Looks okay. Nice material indication. But the red tube doesn't make much sense--what is it? The whole image is a bit boring subject matter wise and shape wise. The edges are also really sloppy but I figure you will work on them more.

I think the biggest issue with lighting is that you have it treated in some ways like a cloudy ambient scene, and in other ways like there is direct lighting. Try to keep things consistent.

>>1995342

red pipes reflection isn't correctly plotted. i don't think it harms the image much, but since /ic/ is so obsessed with accurate physics and shit i thought i would point it out.

Need help with the left index finger. I can't get it to look right.

Also general critique please.

>>1995342
It might help to look at some reference. Also work on sorting out foreground, midground and background

>>1995323
It'll fix itself as I go, but heyyy am I annoyed that my version looks like a jolly kind uncle...

>don't mind me, just venting

>>1995474
Your vanishing points for the building are WAY too close, causing a weird distorted appearance. The distance between the people too doesn't make sense. Just the whole scale of the image is mismatched and wrong. Try finding some reference and seeing how things sit in space.

>>1995379
if you shade like that, its always gonna look shit. crosshatch with small thin strokes with a very sharp pencil instead . dont forget the depth of tones. looks flat. otherwise work on anatomy.

>>1995468
cool

>>1995474
The birds are over kill

>>1995475
look at the chin placement, yours has a foreshortened heavy slope to the left while original chin is much longer and more straight

i dont understand.

This color theory. Lets say i want a Split-Complementary scheme. i get green purple and blue for eg. I like to take one base color and shade it with a hue thats a bit away from base. so what if i want reds for skin in this choice ? i cant use it since i took green purple and blueish scheme ? should i slap those three colors and mix them in various ways and then color pick from those ? idk. And how do i know how much satureted and with what value pick those three ? should every of those three be in diffrent value and satruation, same or what ? what about explenation on how to choose colors with what Val and Sat in your composition. i never know should the skin be most satureted, the cloths or background.

too many questions with this whole color shit.

>>1995514
read gurney

>>1995514
Yeah this is why I think this colour stuff is bullshit. It becomes too much following rules that just confuse people and don't always make sense. It's best to just paint colour in a more intuitive way and use reference and experience to help fill in the gaps.

>>1995516
who ?

It's been a while since I asked, I'll try again.
Is the anon who did this around? I'd like to know if you finished this, I think it'd make a great desktop.

>>1995509
Thanks! The chin makes a big difference.

First time inking with a nib. Fourth inked picture ever.

Eyes and eyebrows got a little fucked and my lines need to be smoother, but I am pretty proud of how it came out.

>>1995537
Im gonna slap Jim Lee out of your blood.

It looks so flat.
The lips are fucking huge, I like DSL, but theres a point where the muscles say no.
Whats going on with her breasts?

fuck

>>1995555
What is this supposed to be? Looks like a truncated penis during a sea storm.

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeh
i'm so bad at anatomy, it isn't interesting at all.

>>1995561
oops sorry, didn't realize it was that fucking big.

>>1995561
make shadows more saturated, not less

>>1995563
>snatch pedals

do you mean as a general rule, or just this specific drawing?
anyway, thanks.

>>1995561
holy fuck i just noticed her right hand is the wrong way round
im autistic

>>1995564
>>1995567
read gurney

>>1995567
Generally youd want to push your values
>ex

>>1995572
you had ONE job!

I am gonna stream vidya on youtube, can you make a short fat dude and a slim tall dude wearing tracksuits dance? Like make it simple I know it is difficult to make many pics like that. Stick Josip Broz Titos head on the short fat one and remove kebab guy on the slim dude. There is a good pic of tito with a cigarette in his mouth and a shit eating grin to be found in the first google images of him.

Id make my own thread but cant do it on phone.

Please do this based OP.

>>1995591
For free?
>oh dont do it

>>1995593
Yes, recording for free, can't get youtube money in Serbia and it's a good break from menial labour at the factory seven days a week.

>>1995323
think this came out alright.

>>1995603
and here's some quicker poses

>>1995552
I only fully drew one breast. The other one just kind of fades out and I didn't shade the leaves covering if like I did the left one. She is supposed to be facing to our left with her head turned towards us.
Lips were way too big for sure. I think I may have made them too small now, but idk.

Also did some touching up to get rid of some ink droplets.

I also haven't done any shading but the hair (which is really just a fairly constant tone of gray... not real shading). I was going to shade it when I colored it.

>>1995593
So, um, no tracksuits?

What's a reliable method of digital construction when you're drawing?

I don't struggle nearly as much in traditional sketching when compared to my digital work, and I'm not 100% sure what my issue is, but I believe it's the brushes I use. I'm so used to using a pencil and how versatile it is based on the pressure I apply on paper and how sharp the lead/graphite is, but I can't seem to emulate that digitally.

Original reference >>1994548

>>1995669
Some of my pencil/graphite stuff for comparison

>>1995669
The brushes are not your problem, proportions are.
>>1995671 looks slightly better only because they are features floating in space, with little to compare them to.

>>1995678
Well his brushes certainly aren't helping him. Using a scratchy texture brush to paint something soft is stupid. If you want a soft transition use a soft brush. If you want a hard edge use a hard brush. If you want texture use a texture brush. It's that simple.

>>1995586
what the fuck push your values means.

>>1995327
Made it smaller

>>1995600
>yah
Oh my god

>>1995680
You have have a value range from 0 to 255, but also only use values between 120 and 180. By pushing values people mean that you should expand this range, make the dark darker and/or the light lighter

>>1995612
Nyet

>>1995695
you can have*

>>1995690
Stop posting anteaters at me

>>1995687
>too dark
>book isnt in perspective
>shading looks like scribbles and not following the contour of the subject
>legs of chair thing arent perpinticular to the perspective


Draw what you see, not what you know

>>1995701
darkness is because of shitty photograph
yeah knew about chairs perspective being fucked up, im spending my days improving my perspective nowadays
didnt notice book was this fucked up
shading could use some more work for sure, but time was over

>>1995527
James Gurney. He wrote Color and Light, which is a great read but you can also find most of the info there on his blog.

Here are some relevant posts on gamut mapping. It might clear some things up regarding limited palettes:
http://pastebin.com/rQ2EVg4J

>>1995724
woah thats too much too grasp im just going to colorpick from photos kekekekeke.

>>1995687
I tried to line up the perspective lines, and maybe it's just that I'm new to it myself, but I got confused at some point. The chair looks to be against the wall, but the wall chair have different vanishing points. It also looks as if the legs of the chair aren't meant to be perpendicular, but rather slanted. Someone else will probably give a better look, but here's my go at it

>>1995726
yeah legs of the chair were not perpendicular, also the eye level should be at the girl's eyes(or slightly above), as i was also sitting.

>>1995726
Okay so lined it myself, and it seems like that the red dots should be where the legs should meet the ground.

Okay, so the concept is not all that original, but any thoughts about the comp?

Welp, last thread got pruned, so I'll repost here.
I'm doing a school project due by tomorrow morning. It's about the Storming of the Bastille in the French Revolution. This is just the basic layout. Anyone?

>>1995768
I'm new here, but I like it

>>1995768
Sending in a care package

i finished this yesterday but forgot to post it, thank you kind anons for the advice!!

wip

So from the previous thread's advice, I added a girl. And thinking about giving her a shotgun too because reasons. Is this too much if I want to maintain focus on the 2 guys on the right? Also general crit welcome.

P-pls no bully

>>1995960
Make those lets longer. They need to match those lanky ass torsos.

>>1995960

That shotgun is waaaay too small. Are you going for a mossberg?

>>1995970
I'm not a /k/ommando so I don't know what a mossberg is but I was going for a >pic related.

>>1995983

heres a WIP painting

>>1995984
Shit, forgot how huge that was.

>>1995986
keep going
as much as you are a dick i love u brian :)

>>1995991
lol im glad i never have to hang out with myself. im sure im intolerable.

>>1995977

Ok. See how big this one is? Yours needs to be about 2 - 3 times the size. Mind you, this one has a full grip and stock, the other is a pistol grip.

Great artwork by the way. Keep it up!

>>1995977

Way small guy again. Great artwork btw. Keep it up.

Here's a little img for reference. Mind you, yours has a pistol grip and shortened forestock.

>>1995996

You could also go for a serbu super shorty. Pic related. Loads more references and a bit more popular!

>>1995746
There's a lot of open space. In general ask yourself why you frame your pictures a certain way. "For what reason do I need all this open space in the comp?" "Can I make the comp smaller and have the emphasis of the picture come out easier, and have a more harm.onious picture?"

Also, there is a problem with scale. We don't really know how big the whale or lighthouse poking out is. They need to relate to eachother more. What you could do is throw in more elements; could be another whale, another lighthouse even, smaller clouds in the back, etc. Here's one way to address the framing and scale issue.

>>1995339
I really liked this one!

does anyone have the tutorial image in japanese that shows local value, lighting and then both together? not important but just wanted it

>>1995586
who is this by?

>>1995339
i like it but i also hate it.
make of that however you will.

>>1996028
not the poster but it's by dave rapoza. great guy with some great stuff. definitely love one of his series, skull and shark. his work is nice and gritty

Okay, gonna try again. This shit is due in a couple of hours. Any thoughts, opinions? I'm gonna work on the essay while this sits here.

>>1995924
you need to render it more.
as the image relys heavily on a central composition, which is not a bad one, but its also a composition that is sooo commonly used, so aid the image by further rendering the legs and torso ect. so the central figure composition is strong.

as it looks now, i fel like its the underpainting.
the edge control on most of the figure kills it too. very choppy in places. and not the good kind of choppy.

the face should not be so dark. if its looking down. the forhead should be catching light.

the moon is egg shaped.

stars are not "everywhere", look at the night sky tonight, the stars follow the arms of the milky way and normally there is one strong "wing" of stars with faded ones filling the inbetweens.

clean the trees more.

>love from /ic/

>>1996048
The colour is helping clarify things from the greyscale version which is good The whole thing is a bit sloppy though. I think you can simplify the building more and make sure it is drawn accurately with hard edges, then keep the rest a chaotic mess sorta since it fits the subject. But really try to differentiate the massive and solid stone building from the soft puffs of smoke and the small chaos of guns and fighting. Hope that helps!

>>1995669
>>1995678
>>1995679
Forgot to post an update, I think it's looking a lot better.

The anatomy is still different, but it seems the brushes really were my issue. I needed to get out of the habit of using just one brush for everything. I immensely appreciate your help.

Still working on it.

>>1996056
Yeah, it's very sloppy. Eh, time is something I don't really have right now. I tried defining the edges a bit more, did it help?

please help me. i would very much appreciate it! i've made a real mess of it.

>>1996079
Well, the face is nice but the scribbling just looks unappealing, especially for a female subject.

Either render the body like the head or work on something else.

>>1996074
Bro I think you are over extending yourself, you don't have the experience to pull off something so grandeur in scale

>>1996080
thanks very much for the feedback!

>>1996084
I know, but I'm too deep in my own grave
It's way too late to do anything else, so I'll just have to deal with what I'll eventually end up with :/

>>1996079
Her right foot is either closer to the camera than her left, or her right foot is going through the floor. I would suggest simply raising that foot up until the heel is slightly above the toe of the other foot. Also, her fingers look as if she's holding her two middle fingers together. On the scribbling that >>1996080 mentioned, I agree for the legs and mid-section, but what I got from the image when looking at the arms was that she has partially clear skin and the lines were from the flesh underneath. I thought this was a cool effect, especially on her right arm

update on this

>>1995342
Thumbnail is pretty boss

>>1996118
let me know if i should scrape off the paint and redo the background or if this is working

>>1995342
Why does it look like you're painting over a photo .

>>1996113
what a great critique! perfectly comprehensive, exactly what i was hoping for. thank you very much!

>>1996122
if you're trying to gradient the background it falls off too fast, so I would make more steps

>>1996079
anon pls share tumblr

>>1996118
bingo. keep pushing i say.

>>1996272
i don't really post my stuff online (but really appreciate the ask!)

>>1996272
(i don't really post my stuff online) but really appreciate the ask!

>>1996079
What's with the chicken scratch? Is this on purpose?

Doing a redesign on Venom and Eddie Brock. Still missing the chest emblem and other stuff. Derp...

>>1996016
>>1996044
Thanks m8s

>>1996317
not a fan of that big thick neck, looks like something they'd do out of necessity in a movie costume

>>1996320

Ya, I thought it'd make the silhouette more interesting. You might be right though...

>>1996066
push her mouth up a bit and then push her nose up a bit away from the mouth. Also draw her eyes

>>1995339
last two parts are great. can do without the top part, doesn't really math or add anything.

>>1996306
oh, heh, i actually speed sketched the character in black and white with a messy sort of cross hatching since high-energy scribbling's really fun to me, (1) then the requester asked for a quick followup splash of color so i slapped in a two-tone sort of thing. (2) and yesterday i found the flat image i'd saved and messed with it a little, in wondering if it might be worth not discarding. (3) but it ended up looking pretty terrible and i wasn't sure what to do, until you guys helped me out. i’ll be implementing your great advice.

>>1996344
i think maybe just get rid of them scribbles and think of something else. a noble experiment, but a failed one.

>>1996344
Might be because of the steps, but her right arm seems to be fairly long compared to her left.

ic tan guy here i know i probably annoy you guys with all my ref pics but heres what ive been drawing tonight just to prove that i do actually draw haha. yes i know i suck

>>1996375
who is ic tan guy

>>1996379
ive posted pics of me doing poses in my underwear everyone calls me ic tan i actually dont know why

>>1996380
I shall deem you underwear guy, forsake your old name.

>>1996380
you're /ic/-tan because you're the physical manifestation of the board.

>>1996384
Ah I see. Well thats pretty cool. Holy fuck its 522am and I have work at 330pm, thats not too bad i guess but im still wide awake and want to draw more

>>1996387
keep drawing /ic/-tan! we expect hourly updates

>>1995332
Not that person, but i avoided digital for ages because of money, and i know a lot of people who don't want to deal with the learning curve of a tablet. It can be very disheartening to not be able to draw a straight line.
I know that i personally felt as if i was back in primary school trying to colour in with crayons when i first picked up a tablet.

>>1995379
lengthening the final knuckle will help,
Other than that, do what i did. buy a new A5 sketch book and fill it with hands. draw your own hands on the bus/train/wherever you don't have a better reference, draw other people's hands wherever you can convince them to show you their hands/have a computer screen

im surprised no one in here has drawn a headcrab or a barnacle yet

>>1995603
is that sycra?

>>1996344
i'm not mad at the scribbling. Keep experimenting with it in different ways, it's a fail in that we all fail, but it's also not a fail because i like it.

keep doing working on anatomy/proportion and as for some input draw the right leg in depth if possible, either away or toward the viewer.

I think you've done a great job here. It's a shame the other anons don't recognize the glint in a drawing as well as it's defects.

>>1996380
So you're the beer belly reference guy

>>1996422
yeah but ive lost a lot of weight my belly has gone down a bit

>>1996424
Internet high five

>>1996375
Also your female face is too manly.

>>1996430
i know, i just recently started to draw females thats why, i have to do more

>>1996375
learn how to draw ears man

>>1995555
I find this very interesting. /ic tends to focus on technical critiques at the detriment of subjective emotional effect, and this has some emotive THING going for it.

It draws me in.

>>1995960
Just updatin

>>1995996
I'm considering if I should change the girl's right hand, specifically the weapon. Also thanks.

>>1996422
>>1996424
Beer belly reference guy is my hero

>>1996354
>>1996361
thanks for the feedback guys! & will do, 354
>>1996419
i'm happy to hear that! and yep, if it turns out nice too easily, it's not quite as effective at stretching your mind.
100% with you over the depth, (+anat.) i'll definitely do that
i like hearing about the defects best, since it's wonderfully helpful. thanks for the great post!

>>1996449
Motherfucker, do you even anatomy? what the hell

Just need another set of eyes of this. Anything look too wonky? Especially looking for feedback on Zoidberg himself.

Thanks in advance!

>>1996449
This is actually pretty nice, nice gestures on the figures. However, I would use some reference on the women on the left. She's not coming out too good.

I've got a graduate exhibition in a month. Just sketching up some ideas.

>>1996602
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I would say that there should be more reflected light from the water on his trousers and feet and I assume that the splashes will be rendered out more.
Also the cliff on the right side is looking off when compared to the cliff on the left as it's too dark when right next to so much light source but looking good :)

Tumblr?

Can I get some critique on this oil painting I just finished? Rip it to shreds, I'm trying to get better at this kind of thing

>>1995561
Never shade with black, dear!

>>1996048
The composition is downright awful and shows a clear lack of even the most fundamental understading of the rule of thirds.
You seem to have browsed Perspective tutorials but you didn't really grasp it did you?
It's seriously hurting you.

Go study perspective and draw from real life because right now you are just wasting your time with works from imagination.
Also stop painting in colors because you havent even grapsed the fundamentals of values yet.
Stop shading with black.

>>1996602
fan art is for losers

>>1996965
this sparked my interest - more please

also blog?

>>1996975
thanks man
http://jamesabbit.tumblr.com

>>1996011
So thanks for the feedback, I decided to keep the extra space for now, but yay or nay? going in the right direction?

>>1996875
you got everything wrong and filled it with buzzwords.

>>1996989
I don't like the wings placement. Maybe if the flaps were wings or just remove the flaps.

>>1996972
:^)

>>1996715
I'm looking for the bad in it and its hard to find.

do you like this image? why? why not?

>>1997006
His nose makes me feel uncomfortable; it looks like those toys from bad dragon

If you were able to manipulate its nose and draw your own, say on a website, would you participate?

>>1997006

>>1996989
Sir?

>>1995958
...u-update

>>1997052
Obvious kr0n wannabe.

>>1996965
cool : )
good stuff on your blog too

>>1997057
who the fuck is Kron....

>>1997057
But there's no chromatic aberration yet

Update on this. Appreciate any feedback.

I want the figures in the bottom to seem like two of them are running away in a panic, but the middle guy stripped down and is locked in a trance walking towards Zoidberg. Are his clothes too hard to see on the ground?

Anything else look wonky?

>>1997071
That was my first impression so I guess it reads well. Can't see anything wrong with it man, looks good.

>>1997070
bro this is a doughnut steal :/

Not too sure what i was even going for. Out of steam.

Colored in a sketch from a couple days ago

>>1997080
Darken the background and fix that right arm

>>1997090
>right
I mean left. Getting dyslexic up in here.

>>1997092
Really both arms are pretty shitty

>>1997080
pretty awful anatomy all-round.

>>1995323
finished this. for real for real this time.

i call it

"Lisa and her Orange and her Fat Stomach"

>>1997115
Gay.

>>1997071
I believe the entire piece will look better with worm-eye view instead, the outline also seems a bit too thick for the human since they are so much smaller than the Zoidberg. Anyway that's just my opinion/preference and it still looks pretty good.

>>1997115
awful.
is this Illastrat?

>>1997090
>>1997092
Gave it another shot, I have no idea where to even start with the bent arm so I'll go back to studying for a bit, thanks for crit
>>1997095
Thanks I guess?
>>1997100
No thanks for you, too vague

>>1996449
This is getting difficult. Should I scrap this?

did a life study yesterday

>>1997217
i would at least finish the girl

>>1996989
Yeah, going in right direction. I'm the same anon who gave you advice before. I have some more advice, information for you to consider. I think you should plan more a place for the eye to enter the image. Right now it has too many pathways for the eye, so I simplified it. Check out Creative Illustration by Andrew Loomis, I think it will help you out a lot.

>>1997219
a still-life you mean, a life study involves living things (people generally)

>>1997115
you are a modern van gouh no joke

>>1997219
is >>1997225
sorry i meant to give a crit too, instead of just being a pedant,

looks great in the thumb
the detail drop on the plinth is a little jarring
the perspective isn't from a single viewpoint, which is fine but the base of the plinth is 'hanging' because when you were drawing that you had moved your head downwards, thus you see it from a higher angle, thus the perspective is very 'natural', which can be a good thing but also can look amateurish. there's a few other little bits of drawing which are off, the head doesn't turn quite right on receding side of the face for example.
the edges are fine, could be finer but it's a sketch so, they're good really.
as for the values, not too bad. there could be more contrast, the midtones could be darker. but the separation between the lights and the darks is marked and thus appealing, the solid cast shadow is very photographic and gives it a real 'real object' kinda look, which is to be praised.

so tl;dr drawing needs a bit of work, painting is pretty good but not perfect, good job.

here's a version with the values changed around a bit to give those fuller midtones, just to show you how your whole piece looks a bit like it has a 'white filter.' this version has full on black shadows, that's from laziness though, not a recommendation :p

>>1997071
Looks great to me but maybe the lines on zoidberg, ergo his face are sort of shaky. I'm split whether the transparency works there, but I like the thickness of the lines

Critique / feedback for my screenprint?

>>1997238
pic, i am sans coffee today i apologise.

>>1997244
again to reiterate, this isn't a better version, just one with darker midtones to show how it adds to the perception of mass within the face, the original is a better picture by far in a general aesthetic sense.

>>1997232
More like van gogh also started the ball rollin with cubism

>>1997238
thanks for crit, mate.

photo study

>>1997232
in that i have no marketable skills?
>>1997259
non sequitor? idk what that means.

>>1997304
>tattoo on foot
I see you got one of those Proko milfs

Not other guy
>>1997310
In that you paint in quick little dabbles.
And you even draw the same way

>>1997320
Man, what's the deal with Proko's female models, I'd swear Veronica was his sister, too.

>that icecream cone tattoo on her butthole

Fuckin' eh.

>>1996055
love u too /ic/ <3

Hey /ic/, quick question:: let's say you want to have a picture of a character or a creature shooting lasers from their eyes, red bright lasers. Naturally shooting lasers from one's eyes is a common artistic interpretation of badassery and muh internet randomness, but this makes you face a problem: since lasers are bright and linear, they would naturally act like distractors and take the viewer's attention out of the main character and directly to the edge of the picture, leading the eye out of it. Or am I wrong? Now, your piece has no background, it's blank, so how do twist the picture or what elements you do you add to fix this problem to bring the attention back to the focus you want?

>>1997375
instead of "firin muh lazor" make it "chargin muh lazor"... showing a charge up is equally interesting and presents a different way for you to use your visual library than straight red beams or another kind of laser.

>>1997414
This, but if you have to have the character firing it's lazor maybe have it firing into something slanted in the foreground (but not going through it, maybe heating it so that there are two subtly glowing points) and using that, and other elements to redirect the view towards the character. Of it's a scene of distruction maybe something like pic related. (Sorry for the shitty IPad sketch, but I hope it gets the point across

Not sure what the fuck to do with this.

>>1997489
Btw, I should mention that this pic is to get my point across, not to be taken seriously

>>1997492
Turn it into an ancient-weapon-cannon-thing, or a more detailed sculpture in the desert.

>>1997375
Something that is bright doesn't necessarily have to draw the eye. It depends on how much it contrasts with the rest of the image. You just have to make it so that the laser doesn't contrast as much, by making its surroundings brighter or partially obscuring it with smoke, or whatever you want really.

>>1997495
the shapes on the right are supposed to be clouds, and the dark area on the left is the ground far below the eye level. I guess it isn't very clear at the moment.

>>1997501
I did think about the left part being below the eye level, but I didn't know that the left things were clouds. Looks even cooler when you think it that way, maybe do something with those clouds and you'll get a new idea in the process?

I just got done with this. What do y'all think? Where can I improve? Are the colors too much?

>>1997541
the hands seem a bit big I think? and the white on the skin kinda seems a bit weird to me, but I kinda like it tho, looks pleasantly weird.

Opinions on my working process? any steps I should change/add?

>>1997569

Here's the finished piece.

>>1997569
looks okay. i would kind of expect you to paint up some areas, but perhaps this image just doesn't allow for much of that (or you did and i'm not paying close enough attention)

>>1997583

paint up what areas??

>>1997585
idk, whatever needs a bit of pop i guess

How do I ink a drawing properly?

I use 0.1 and 0.3 rotring, how should I think of the inking process? I paint better than I ink, if it helps.

pic related is the result I want to get, I have copics too.

>>1997062
Thanks

>>1995332
Paper demonstrates a far more accurate reflection of your drawing skills with the medium being purer in a sense.
Digital drawings are easier to make and the software replaces the development of vital art skills (gradients, tone, ratio, etc.)

>>1995468
good work anon your toning is developing well. I like the rough shading keep it up.

*cracks knuckles*

>>1997541

interesting style, you need to improve your linework, it doesn't look very solid, colors are nice for the image but they need to be applied with more coherency

>>1997492

don't add the light layer too early or it will give you headaches later when you realize that you need to change a lot of shit in order for your painting to look good, also try to have an idea before you paint and do little thumbnails

>>1997304

very good anon, did you use the color picker tho? also the brushwork is fantastic, what brush is that?

>>1997217

you need better line art and general value before you add any detail

>>1997148

work on your edges and your anatomy, the colors are nice tho

>>1997071

amazing colors man! the thick lines of the characters below aren't pleasing to the eye tho

>>1997695
>walks in like he owns the place and asks catbib if he color picks

Lel

>>1996602
very nice, im a fan

C-can I make some shekels with my current skill? Or should I keep studying? I know I have to bring detail level up and work on colors...

>>1997891
>C-can I make some shekels with my current skill?
Probably not.

>Or should I keep studying?
Yeah. Your work shows potential.

>>1997893
>replying seriously to an obvious troll

>>1997894
What are you even talking about?

>>1997898
>replying seriously to an obvious troll

>>1997893
>>1997894
>>1997898

The real answer is Yes; if you find someone willing to pay. Most likely its going to be fucking 7 shekels an hour.

>>1997898
no one can be that delusional thinking that that crap is acceptable to make money, it looks like someone found an amateur beginner and decided to kek on his stuff for whatever reason there is

>>1997903
Ive made money with a shittier portfolio.
It wasn't a lot of money.
I was working at Mcd's at the time.

>>1995984
>>1995987
Nice, I really like the second one.

My anatomy study. Taking inspiration from old medicine books.

>>1997913
Well, more like hand study.

*unzips dick*
>>1997695
thank you

>>1997931
that posture is awkward as fuck, not even talking about proportions
redo the girl

From a reference thread

>>1997946

>>1997946

trying for something more painterly than I'm used to. the painting is still half empty but maybe it's easier to point out what's wrong w the drawing.

>>1997980
The large birdlike thing looks really out of place right now.

What am I doing wrong and what am I doing right?

>>1998042

I think you are not drawing what you see.

Eyes are missplaces and you drew one dbigger than the other but thats not correct, you are exagerating what you see.

Mouth and nose are missplaces, try to cut them and adjust them.

>>1998071
Looking better?

Todays life drawing. Around 2 hours. Turned out particularly shitty but im posting it anyways, so someone may point out whats the shittiest about it.

>>1998071
how do you draw what you see? cause when i draw im drawing what i see but it looks nothing like what im drawing .

>>1998115

Still symbol drawing bro. It's especially noticeable on the eyes.

>>1998141
Portrait dude here, I think what he's trying to say is basically making sure that you are drawing the actual shapes, proportions and textures that make up the real life thing you're trying to draw and not what you think they should be.

>>1998141
You can't draw what you see, that phrase is the epitome of D-K effect.

>>1998141
It's all about shapes man. Draw the shapes of the shadows and lights and look at them as shapes that connect together.

>>1998149
Life portrait drawing is fucking overwhelming for me at my current skill level. I tried constructing it many times, but failed it over and over, and didnt want her to not have eyes at all. Her left eye got some traces of construction, but the right one had to be repositioned almost the last moment, so i've just shit it there. Also could not shade properly the shaded side of her face, so it looks like she has huge ass jaws. To make it even worse, its a young and pretty girl in real life...

Also,
>>1995687
this was mine and is the same model.

>>1998170
Bagb0sse, you fucking dipshit.
You're such a creative guy, if you actually put some effort into getting better you could be Moebius tier one day.

Get out of your comfort zone faggit.

>>1995323
2 hour pose

>>1998234
two hours? fucking how?
also, its shit

>>1998234
your "style" is pretty shit, m8

>>1998214
This, a thousand times over.

I like your stuff Bagbosse, but it's clear you're not pushing yourself. Make something ambitious, like a panoramic scene of a city with all the people doing their thing or something crazy like that.

Even though your sketches have appeal, they still feel just like sketches. Something you could drop in a notebook margin.

>>1998234
I like your stuff too, but often the contrast isn't really there. Your paintings turn out a bit better because they've got some color contrast, but your drawings end up looking washed out as you can see by the thumbnail.

Push that hatching darker, closer, more varied, describe the form with values. The hatching style is neato in the abstract, but it feels like a varnish over a weak drawing.

>>1998284
i think what i need is a caligraphy dip pen. what im using right now has a very fine point. it came with about 6 nibs, but they all end with a tip. you can't really get varied line weight. i'd love to make outlines thicker and emphasize darker areas more but with my materials right now this is 2 hours of work. not exactly as graphic and interesting as it could be.

i might get the caligraphy pen and it turns out shit though so what do i know. might be the artist and not the materials.

>>1998288
Stiff like a Micron or Rotring or such? Yeah, I can see how that'd take a while.

The one I use most is the small pen holder from Speedball with a #102 or #106 (I think) nib, can get a lot of variation from them.

But if you don't mind swapping nibs I suppose a calligraphy nib would work, you just wouldn't be able to vary your line on the fly.

Also, a cheaty trick I do sometimes is if I have trouble building up value I'll dip a cheapie flat brush into my "ink water" (where I wash off my nib occasionally) for a mid-tone grey and brush it in there.

I suck at understanding lighting and designing compositions with it in mind.
Dragon needs more value. Hope this isn't a bit premature for feedback.

>>1998299
I would figure out the composition more before continuing. Right now the dragon is in an awkward pose and the attention is split between him and the volcano and hte lava river. What is the story of the painting? What are you trying to show? Take a step back and figure these things out then make the changes and then you can begin rendering and worrying about lighting.

For values and stuff take a look at some reference of rocky volcanic areas like that and see what sort of value structures they tend to have, then use that as a starting point for oyur own values and colours.

When you say you have trouble planning the values for composition, a general rule you can follow is that you put the area of greatest contrast at the focal point. So it would have the lightest light and the darkest dark there. Obviously there are a billion images that don't follow this structure, but it is an easy and effective structure to use that is quite common.

Finally close to finishing

Crit appreciated

>>1998343

Also, do you guys think I could make some money with this level of skill? I'm thinking of doing a few more pieces so that I have an actual portfolio to show

>>1998348
I think you're on your way. How long did this take/what are you considering applying this skills to.

>>1998351

I'm slow and I don't have much time right now so I've been working on this for about a week.

Don't quite know where to aim. I think I'll create a page on behance or something when I have a few decent pieces but I haven't got any specific objectives at this point

>>1998353
I guess, to clarify, what I meant to ask, is are you think of concept art or traditional illustration for book covers, other things, story boarding, matte painting? I guess to a point you can't be too focused, but have some idea.

Even with a rather low level of skill (I think with some more development this could be pretty cool, but I don't know the extent of your rendering abilities), I think people can make money, but it will require hustling (especially if you freelance), since there's all sorts of clients out there with all sorts of budgets, as well are all sorts of companies. Not necessarily enough to make a living depending on what your life has going on in it, until you reach a certain level of skill if freelancing. But it might be easier if you have a wide base of skills and narrow down what you're interested in doing, so you can make sure your range of skills will be useful to those employers if thinking of corporate.

>>1998357

Definitely not concept art, maybe more towards illustration but as I said I still don't have anything specific in mind.
I like to write as well so I guess I'd like to illustrate my own stories, maybe submit my own comic or something but for now what I'd like is to make enough money to pay the rent and bills

Part of an AP art concentration about an artist that goes blind. I know it needs some work but it's beyond my talent and skill level to determine where.

Anyone else feel depressed?

>>1998404

welcome to the party pal

>>1998299
That dragon looks like a grown up version of the baby from Eraserhead.

>>1998404
Yeah but not if I'm drawing

>>1996317
too my knowledge, Venom is the combination of Eddie Brock and an alien parasite that becomes his suit. Thus, he should have basic human anatomical features beneath the alien exterior. This means that issues with your picture include too few fingers, and unless the parasite has deformed his feet, this pose would be achieved by him standing on his toes, in which case his feet are too long. As well, his toes should still be there, which means not having such a deep gap between the prongs on venom's feet. otherwise, you might want to build on the chest a bit more, otherwise the layer of parasite looks thin, but shows incorrect human anatomy.
My point is that physically (maybe not mentally) he is eddie brock first, Venom second.

>>1998404
I went to the doctor today, he gave me a test. I am depressed

>>1998421
what a beautiful poem

heres an update, critiques wanted

>>1996975
>http://jamesabbit.tumblr.com
>>1996978
samefag...

>>1995323
any advice to getting into drawing from imagination Im so bad at it, that its intimidating

someones dnd character im makin for em

>>1998699
Oh okay.
I remember in highschool I used to daydream about my crush n stuff. But it was down to point were I could feel her skin and scuplt her in my mind.
My goal was to simulate the feeling of sculpting and volume on 2D space.

So thats what I do, see the object or person in my mind and replicate it to mu best abilities.
Vilppu is the best teacher for acheving volume in your work.
Micheal Hampton is my personal favorite for construction

>>1998299

biggest issue here is perspective

In hindsight, I should have made his hand and tool lighter since now there isn't much of a focal point. That aside, can you guys give me critique?

Hey, looking for some critique on this face. Took probably 10 - 15 min

>>1999096
Think of it like a mask, it's not supposed to be the full head. End at the hair line and the jaw.

>>1999057
his left shoulder a bit messy, according to light on the helmet the shoulder should have been bright too
but otherwise looks cool

>>1998343
Composition and lighting is very nice but you need to work on your brush work and your colours. Throw in some more darker tones and give it more life with some new hues. If I were you I would also add some texture to the sky, a simple gradient looks very dull.

>>1999096
looks good, bit inconsistent perspective wise, but that' fine. good job.

rough sketch

Something feels so off in the face but I cant see it, can you guys help me a bit please?

>>1999188
Everything is a bit off here mate.

>>1998343
It looks like a loading screens fo Crusader Kings II, only little less detailed and finished. So yes, I think you can get pay for something like that.

Pic related, I actually found deviant art of artist that made those screens, apparently he made them when he was at internship at Paradox. Propably this particular piece gave me same vibe as your work (red flag), heh
http://zenarion.deviantart.com/

>>1999188
SHE'S GREEN YOU DUMB CUNT

I was just doodling around, but this came out pretty nicely. What to do now to make it interesting?

>>1999057
I'm trying to do this kind of high contrast style at the moment, and I'm just utterly lost. I have no idea when placing big areas of blackness works and when it looks out of place. You got any advice?

>>1999291
Nice colours. Everything looks like it's underwater. Define it a bit. Don't rape the image with the texture brushes, be gentle and learn what works and what doesn't. You also need to work on your values, everything blends together as you can see in the greyscale image.

>>1998684
Personally i think it looks amazing
also if thats you your a qt

>>1999313
this is the greyscale for me

>>1999188
over-exaggerated cheekbone lines, bulges out too masculine

nose would be placed more to the left from that angle

smaller jaw

no massive indent in chin

don't overshade the bottom lip if light is coming from top

>>1999171
reminds me of the manga doubt.

>>1999313
>>1999341
This again...

>>1999365
that doesnt explain anything

>>1999365

have a bigger resolution ?

>>1999368

There are different formulas to turn an image into grey scale

>>1995984
that is a massive fucking forehead. also nose and mouth are drawn from wrong angle.
>>1998104
no

Drew this one for "Mermaid" contest.

Whaddaya think?

>>1999102
Thanks.

>>1999309
To be honest, I just do it almost randomly. Have everything dark in one direction and everything else on the other side. Just enough to show a bit of 3D.

>>1999527
>I just do it almost randomly.
:(

>>1999527
>randomly make it look it look appealing
You...
You..

>>1999652
That's subjective

>>1999457
Okay.