/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

well aren't you eager to post your pic as OP

>>1994290
Nobody cares.

>>1994290
Pretty sure there's just a single OP that chooses the best work from the previous one.
Stop being jelly.

>>1994296
>best work from the previous one
check this guy, he's pretty good >>1992486

>>1994298
Stop samefagging, kyle
That looked like shit.

>>1994299
not as shit as OP

>>1994300
I'm not OP, but that at least is a SFW OP.

>>1994299
>>1994298
>3 posters

I doubt that's Kyle more likely it's some Anon with a boner over the image I picked as OP. Again nobody cares.

>>1994288

I really like the way that artist drew her, tumblr/blog for more?

Just finished this recently

How do I make her body look more attractive?

>>1994330
you dont need to post it twice, man

>>1994332
You can barely see the lines

>>1994332
Didn't you already post this one in the regular draw thread? I thought they told you that you had issues with the ribcage.

What happened to redjuice cunt (redjuice sucks btw).

>>1994372
Thats just uncalled for.
Especially considering the guy has a career doing what most people here do as a hobby at best.
As for Redjuicefag? probably the same thing that happened to Teal.

>>1994377
Are you going to tell me genzoman doesn't suck.

>>1994289
>>1994102
one wee lil tiny mistake i always see in a lot of things like this is his left elbow (our right) is a bit... the lil line you drew there to signal the fold of skin when the elbow bends, it wouldn't really be there in the position the arm is in unless the arm maybe has a significant amount of fat (he seems a rather lithe character)
(also sorry, that edit is on an older version)

>1993962
no problamo my mammal, i try to help when i can nwn

>>1994385
Not him but I really can't understand how elbows work, especially when you don't see the angle. It's easy to draw on super thin girls, but I always have trouble with arms on moderately built guys.

>>1994384
No, but he's doing something right if people want to pay him for his work.

>>1994330
>>1994102
one wee lil tiny mistake i always see in a lot of things like this is his left elbow (our right) is a bit... the lil line you drew there to signal the fold of skin when the elbow bends, it wouldn't really be there in the position the arm is in unless the arm maybe has a significant amount of fat (he seems a rather lithe character)
(also sorry, that edit is on an older version)

>>1993962
no problamo my mammal, i try to help when i can nwn

>>1994388
sorry, had to repost cause i fucked up some things an had to fix, but it's mostly jus understandin the underlyin muscle forms of the arm an how that would effect the contour lines combined with the level of fat present, it's tricky but once you understand it you p much got it for life

>>1994388
it helps if you know what the bones look like. just google it and draw it a couple times.

Tell me secret of linearting sensivity parts (asses/bobies). My accuracy is suck cocks.

>>1994394
Use a different/thicker brush

>>1994391
to add more on in response to >>1994388
basically a good rule of thumb is unless the arm is bent past a 90 degree angle at the elbow, the muscle contour will carry a more or less straight line from the top of the... muscle (BRACHIORADIALIS (jus googled it)) that's there, but that is also dependent on what side the hand is facin an the angle of the rest of the arm to the viewer as well... like i said, it's kinna tricky but once you get it it's super simple try usin your own arm for reference (unless it's a lil too chubby, but that's okay, there's reference photos online nwn)

>>1994401
>BRACHIORADIALIS
Lost it there.

>>1994300
Yes it does. You might be too easily impressed by shiny rendering. The OP image is a far better drawing.

>>1994407
>awful shitty edgy design
>base colors
It's shit

>>1994330
I loved the drawing, but this is some really jarring coloring job. Way too many textures and noise competing for attention and the values are mostly the same. Just a simple 3 value structure and clean, flat colors would make this so much better.

>>1994418
Post your work.

>>1994401
>>1994391
Sweet!! thanks guys, really great to know that

>>1994418
And yet it's still a better drawing than your overrendered turd, Kyle. Get over it, I don't feel like arguing.

>>1994420
>>1991159
Post your work now

>>1994432
I already have.

>>1994432
>>1994434

it is apples to oranges, please stop arguin an actually try to contribute somethin of worth

>>1994394
Your brush is fine. Just draw more zoomed in/work with a larger canvas. That's not just a sensitive part area, it's for all around, but it becomes more important with sensitive areas.

>>1994425
>>1994425
>>1994425
>overrendered turd, Kyle
>Get over it, I don't feel like arguing.
Who the fuck are you? Princess?

>>1994441
I draw in 4900x3400 but always end with 188% zoom lvl, giant pixels and micro picture.

>>1994452
jesus, you guys have big screens

>>1994452
do the sketch/thumbnail small, then enlarge it to the full size you want to work at

>>1994454
What does any of that have to do with screen size? Obviously you wouldn't have it all on your screen at once... Most of my stuff is made on an 11" laptop.

WIP comic page.

>>1994484
You need a severe primer on panel composition, I can't tell which panel flows into which. The camera also seems inconsistent.

>>1994502
Isn't it just basic that you read left to right top to bottom? I thought that was common knowledge unless you're reading mango. Not the guy who made the pic btw, just curious.

>>1994517
Direction of where the eye looks at is extremely influenced extremely by how the panels are created and the contents inside regardless of the direction we read it in. I should not have to rely on culture to know that, but with the page I can't tell at all. The panels themselves have camera angles that don't seem to be a proper sequence. The black and white inking seems difficult to comprehend. The character does not seem very consistent.

The page needs more panels that glue everything together logically. There's a spaceship which suddenly moves onto a panel about what I assume to be a pilot. Is this pilot looking at the ship in the first panel? I should not have to ask that question.

To show a connection, one could make a new panel to zoom in onto the ship and show the pilot in the same camera angle. Next panel, the pilot is checking controls and then something pipes up in front of him. Next panel he looks down to check what is there. Next panel the camera angle finally changes and we can then show the original second panel.

That is a logical flow and sequence that would tell a story instead of placing pictures onto panels in a page and expecting the reader to piece together what happens. Storytelling plays an extremely large role in comics. It might sound difficult and more drawing to do, but that's what creating an effective comic is.

>>1994577
comic anon, here.

excellent critique, man; you really seem to know your stuff. have you drawn many comics before? if there's anything you're willing to share, i'd be interested in checking it out.

What do you people think about the flat and geometrical style of 50's cartoons that later was revived by CN?

>>1994303
If there's anything off please let me know.

>>1994623
Never drew a single comic before, but I study them along with screenplay, cinematography, composition, and animation.

>>1994672
okay. thanks for the crit.

>>1994632
Pretty cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iVf0pPHvjc

>>1994330
>>1994391
>>1994401
>>1994423

I think the minuscule line is fine where it's at. In fact I don't think it was put there out anatomy sakes, rather for design. It flows better with it. It's tiny and unnoticeable, but it has an effect. Cover it up and the arm seems to flatten a bit.

This next part iss not directed at the OP, but to the two anatomy artists:

This pedantic scrutiny over delinateing muscle flab and worrying over minute joint bends is for suckers who can't distinguish between art and diagram. Seriously, you autist think every lines stands in for something? Guess you also think stylization is just exaggeration, right?

Get over yourselves.

>>1994484
>Since people read from left to right, the vast majority (though not all) action should be going from left to right.
>In fact since comics happen on a 2D plane, you can really only go up, down, right, or left so stage action accordingly
>Threats and conflicts usually come from the left, ie facing against the direction of the protagnist's movement
>I flipped some panels, but the placement of the planet made it an obstacle to the spaceport. I moved it behind the ship so it looked they were either leaving it or had just passed it by.
>Are there two characters or one? If it's just one why does he look surprised then confident? This part is confusing. to me. There's either one panel too many, or there aren't enough clues to tell me why he's surprised.
>Last panel is nice. Nice line art overall. Just remember to keep things moving right.

>>1994389
Marketing, the big difference is marketing.

>>1994718
there, i fixed it, now what are you so mad about

(ps, >>1994330, this one is better than the previous)

Gooter time. This one is called "Gromp Stomp"

>>1994793
>line was fine
>deletes line
>I fixed it

You weren't comprehending, now the whole thing sucks. Way to go junior.

Trying to stylize a chicken for a 2.5D animation I'm gonna be making. I want to keep the static/aloof personality of a real chicken, so I tried making it more square/straight.

Opinions?

>>1994890
could work, but it looks a little duck-ish
maybe more thigh?

>>1994793

big problem with this imo is the amount of color & value contrast the glove at the bottom creates, dragging the eye away from the face. i would swap the exact color of the goggles with the exact color of the glove, and then make the new goggles a bit redder in hue, and the new gloves a bit more tealish in hue just to reduce color temp contrast at the bottom and increase it at the top.

I think I messed up with the bg color and some areas are probably over-rendered

i feel like i am still not grasping shit with drawing, probably better for the beginner thread, but i definitely want to branch into alt art. and i know to do that i need to learn the basics, but i feel like all these lines and shit with heads and torsos, etc are really piling up.

should i just take one thing at a time and slowly piece a drawing together or kinda sketch/draw a simple lines to show where i want things?

sorry i ain't got nothing, but it's late and all attempts today were failures, so i really have nothing to post.

>>1994881
naaaah, look closely, moved it over, image related, see how her right (our left) arm is drawn (should drawn that line in a thicker line so that it's more uniform like the rest of the line art but i digress)

>>1994718 lil tirade about how it "flattened" the arm was almost right (it made it look like the arm was angled away from the viewer instead of towards them) so despite their spiteful theatrics, they did actually help me realize that i had actually made a mistake so... thanks?

artist is barth from (blogspot: yearinmerde)
(interestingly enough, they're the one i stole/learned the elbow joint thing bein a straight line from the top of the forearm)

also, i'd like to point out that i'm jus suggesting these changes, i'm never tellin anyone they HAVE to correct the things i point out. as long as they're aware of what they're doing i don't care, do ya thing, dawg, i only presents these things as one of the infinite amount of options you may choose to take so please try an chill with the vitriol

>>1994890
i agree with >>1994907, maybe try some triangles for the legs, would help with makin it read more chicken i feel

Recently got really, really back into Gundam.
So I'm drawing a heavily Gundam-esque thing.

>>1994741
>more really good advice.
thanks /ic/

>>1995005
Cool. 'd like to see your full mecha in action.

>>1995005
That looks really complex. I could imagine the mecha/sci-fi genre in general being a pain in the ass to draw...

Nice work, man.

what the fuck is with quality on alt/ recently ? its the best of the generals wtf guys ?

>>1995005
>0083 Gundam Stardust Memory
>Nina Purpleton on the left
>Kou inside the cockpit

/m/an here, I'm right, right? I'd love to see you finish this because 0083 is fucking awesome.

>>1994989
Nah, STFU Dan. Or go back to /b/ or /co/ or whatever superficial pisspot you crawled out of. And stop acting like you know what're you're talking about. The line was trivial and insignificant to trouble over.

>>1995340
dan?

>>1994305
http://epictones.tumblr.com/
I don't know why it's OP, but it's probably as prestigious of an honour my work has ever gotten.

>>1995078
Hah yeah, it really is. Now that I have to ink it I almost regret making it so complicated.
>>1995159
Sort of! I'm not drawing any characters or Gundam in particular, just drawing a gundam-esque scene. Although, I was watching 0083 before I started drawing it, so it's pretty crazy that you could tell.

fanart of characters that randomly came to my mind

>>1995569
>Holly Summers

the art could be a bit better but you have some good taste

Been a while since I posted here.

This is a style test for a book series my friend and I are collaborating on

>>1995760
love the blockiness an colors an texture but the middle section doesn't read that well to me, it looks kinna like an innertube for water even tho after lookin for a bit, i can tell it's the skirt/dress billowin up (unless it's neither, in which case i'm kinna lost (0-0') )

you really want your forms to instantly read, like, you want the viewer to see the work an instantly realize what all the forms an things are (unless part of the work is meant to obscure for later revealment, but you prolly wouldn't really want to go for that with a simple character illustration)

other than that tho, A+++ ver good nwn

>>1995760
what kind of brush do you use for the textures?

>>1995978
Andrew Green's goache brush, it's somewhere in this set I'm pretty sure https://www.dropbox.com/s/y4d9hxmwv15h4wo/brushes.zip?dl=0

Experimenting with my style and trying to figure out how to simplify my lines. Any crit is welcome.

>>1995760

I love your shapes and coloring style. The only thing I can suggest is for you to adjust your shadow colors a bit more. On the blue, the shadow gets warmer, but everywhere else it stays the same and only gets darker in value. It sort of flattens your cool shapes, so I think making the rest your shadows warmer would really make your colors stand out.

>>1996005
i like it, but the left leg sorta breaks the flow, its kinda wonky

space witch and octopus familiar

Traditional artist here,I am sick of how lazy I'm being in drawing heads and figures,I always draw in 3/4 views and when I try to draw portraits and profiles they look retarded,any advice?

(Pic related)
I'd also love some feedback on this

>>1996007
you are the last person to be giving advice about flow.
>that line weight.

>>1996040
ITS MY STYLE

>>1996032
try putting yourself in a higher standard without being depressed and practice alot. 2 hours a day should do.

>>1996070
I'll try that but its too late with the depression part,
Whenever I do profiles and portraits I have to doone with the other like this

something I did in paint. should I give up now?

>>1996088
interestin an consistent stylistically

things of note are that her left (our right) foot is... well, it looks like it should be her right foot. the background lives a bit to be desired. if you're goin for sexy, i'd suggest workin on the male genitalia a bit more, other wise, this is p neat an unique an i don't really wanna set you off course from what you got goin

WIP, some kind of armored goblin guy.

WIP, some kind of armored goblin guy.

>>1995340

that wasn't me, i don't really come here much anymore.

-dan

>>1996160
who are you, why is this guy so mad at me/you

>>1996160
Git gud and stop tracing

>>1994337
I see it for the 5th time, he was in beginner, porn, draw and even question thread, always asking "How do I make her body look more attractive?". And he even gets 2-3 replies.

>>1994332
Dude, there is no shortcut, there is no single critique/post that will make you a god tier artist. You must to learn the hard way, grind through fundies and anatomy. There is no other way. And I wont even bother pointing out what is wrong with her body, becouse people already did it in other threads you posted this.

Or is it new merc_wip and I'm getting trolled?

>>1996005
Thanks for the feedback, I will try that!

.

>>1997121
How come you always draw frowny faces and why haven't you drawn Miku yet? Draw a smile Firez.

>>1997125
>why haven't you drawn Miku yet
mikufag and firez doing a collab

>>1994303
Lookin qt as always

>>1997121
is this b8?

>>1997121
The hair shouldn't go up anymore. It makes her head look like it is point up toward the back. You should not see that much of the hairline

>>1997125
I suppose it's because I'm always sad and feel like shit. I will definitely draw Miku, eventually.

>>1997158
At this rate I think he will be able to finish several illustrations before I finish my part of the collab.

>>1997191
I wish it was, I just suck

>>1997199
Yes, even now it looks super odd, I also fucked up both upper eye lids... thanks for the advice.

>>1996032
god damn this is flat

>>1997360

Quit going to r9k, if you do at least go to /pol/ you can make fun of Benin when you see his flag just leave Greece alone don't bully about his denbts. Try to make something smile everything you do looks unhappy and tired it's contagious.

>>1995159
I really like that stereotypical 90's anime aesthetic. I think it does a better job than just about any other style in minimizing the features for animation while still leaving them convincing, I wish there was some guide on how to draw like that. I want to internalize those symbols and incorporate them into my own work. I'm not even a weeaboo piece of garbage either nigga the shit just looks good real talk.

>>1997430
easiest way to do that properly is learn your anatomy an shit an then go find artbooks from animes you feel really exemplify the style you wanna go for an then study their designs an see what they do stylistically by cross referencin it with your anatomy knowledge an seein how/why they make their stylistic choices

I'm supposed to be studying. But the stress is making me draw the hours away. Why do I do this to myself?

>>1994484
finished page.

>>1998100
Pretty coo'

Typical animoo drawer here, working on a random original character.

I get a lot of inspiration from Josei manga artists, hence the big hands and delicate features.

>>1998111
You've got great lines. Her left arm looks a little stumpy. I know that might be foreshortening but that's just the impression I get.

anyone want to redline this?

I like to be messy

>>1998325
>I like to be messy
bullshit, that's a fucking excuse for laziness. Check your mediocre shit and terrible work ethic at the door if you ever want to be taken seriously.

I'm not too happy with the colours on this especially for the skin, any suggestions?

Kill me

what the fuck happened to ottomensch, he was good

>>1998409
Yeah. Despair is real and so close. I can feel it after /a/ drawthreads.

>>1997430
>I wish there was some guide on how to draw like that
Ditto, Once I can work up the nerve to start drawing again, I want to try and emulate a lot of styles of the 80's & 90's. Shit, even some stuff from the 70's on down looks real nice.

just doodlin' some ladiez

>>1998576
Nice

>>1997429
I stopped going to r9k years ago, I can relate a lot with some people there but it was simply not productive.

Every once in a blue moon I go to /pol/ just to have a laff.

Nowadays I mostly visit here, /lit/ and /mu/

>tfw you stop practicing for months, but you didn't become complete trash like last time

>>1998776
eyes too much to the sides, again huge forehead
would work on upper lip more to make it look more appealing
arm looks wonky as fuck, can't visualize how it's coming from the shoulder

>>1998785

I was trying to keep the one of separation thing, I guess I could arrange the eye lid values to make them cohesive and/or make her eyelashes shorter

The character also has a tad bigger and curvier than average forehead.

I will try to fix the lips and arm. Thanks for the feedback

>>1998794
it's ok to have a curvy forehead, but look at this character design hair/skull ratio- it's normal, while you made her have some kind of extended hair bulb above. your view point is from above her, but you made her look up, so there is no was for the viewer to see that much of the hair area on top- it's for the perspective if she was looking down

>>1998811
*was=way

>>1998811

>>1998811
>>1998829
Cranial binding is kawaii as fuck.

shit for /co/

how to handle shading thing that has many color variations in it ? cellshading wise. Should i use one color to shade over those diffrent hues or the shadow shape should have all diffrent hues on the diffrent parts ?

>>1998776
besides the face and the penguin i cant really tell what the rest is

Might not have been the best idea to juggle two balls at once, but I wanted to improve on storyboards and silhouettes.

>>1998916
Her arm is way too long, and broken, she could scratch beneath the knee, without even bending. There is some legs to hips proportion fuck ups, hips look too small to contain these legs. Breast should be in diffrent perspective, I think, look like they take place IN the chest instead of ON a chest

>>1998377
I love when /ic/ ignores actual talent. With that it mind, it looks like you guessed the colors although it doesn't look muddy, and you need deeper values particularly shadows around the neck, cape, hair and that bush.

>>1998323
boobs too high and off center, her left shoulder could use some work, keep at it looks ok for the most part..

>>1994632
>50s
It's from the medieval period you jackass.

I hate these threads.

>>1999061
tried some minor fixes, thanks for feedback.

>>1999095
tip top reading comprehension you moron.

>>1999028
Did they died

>>1998776

>>1994288
Any /AASG/ related gumroad tut worth buying ?

>>1999028
I think there should be a panel that shows the little girl reaction to him falling. Just a small nitpick :)

Ugh, my coloring and linework suck dick. What do you guys think?

>>1999211
It's shit, read sticky and Loomis.

>>1999067
>Actual talent
The facial structure is stunning, sure, but the rest of it leaves a lot to be desired in form and structure, most remarkably the hair. But it's also at the level where the only thing that can be done to improve it further is more practice rather than specifically pointing out things. Most art on /ic/ at this meh-that's-pretty-good level get ignored because there's nothing to really say. Bad stuff you freak out and point out all the flaws in, amazing stuff you freak out and gush over. Inbetween just isn't discussed as much.

>>1999222
That's very helpful anon.

>>1999226
You're welcome.

>>1999241
You could've at least say why it was bad.

>>1999245
Not that anon, but nearly everything is wrong, so much so that I'm not convinced it's NOT a troll.

If it's you, and that was an honest effort...there's nothing to say, it's truly awful. Study Perspective>Light>Gesture>Anatomy>Color, and remember to have fun and keep drawing the things you want aside from study.

>>1999245
What's the point? He's too ignorant/lazy to read and apply sticky - he will just ignore my critique as well.
>inb4 no, u don't know him, he will improve, just tell him how
Fine, go ahead and PROVE ME WRONG, FAGGOT (in beginners thread).

Things that gives it a shit-tier look are:
>fucked up proportions (or you simply don't know how to perspective).
Read "Perspective made Easy", do exercises.
"Fun with a Pencil", by Loomis have a very gentle introduction to proportions and to construction.
Watch Sycra on youtube.
>anatomy (tits are in wrong place, that's not how feet looks like, knees shouldn't be "sharp")
Proko have some tutorials, you should watch them and learn how to draw gestures.
If you're more serious then read "Figure Drawing - Design and Invention" and watch and do homework from "Analytical Figure Drawing" course (both by Michael Hampton)
>construction (it looks like you don't know how to simplify hair into basic shapes, you don't know how to show a twist between pelvis and ribcage [ribcage is rotated towards us, pelvis should be rotated to the left, because of legs])
Loomis "Fun with a pencil" is a nice introduction, then move on to Vilppus "Drawing Manual". Don't forget to pirate Vilppus movies about it.

As for things you already know about, but was too lazy to do anything about them:
>colors
watch tutorial from ctrlpaint, pirate premium videos, then read those:
http://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php/107217-Digital-Painting-In-PS-2
>linework (chickenscratch)
Read first chapter from "How to Draw" by Robertson - there are some useful exercises you will learn a lot from (drawing straight lines, curves, ellipses). Feel free to ignore rest of the book for now.
>I get lazy on the hands
Do more studies of them (not only yours, but also from photos), it will become easier to draw and stylize them.

>>1999245
>You could've at least say why it was bad

When a couple of things seem off or perhaps if your drawing is on the right track, looks like shit, and need a little guidance, then it makes sense to offer specific advice.

When you show that you literally have no fundamentals and your image is complete shit, of course the advice is going to be that blunt. Sounds like we're asshole, but reading the sticky and loomis is THE best advice for your image.

>>1999211
>>1999284
It's Trollchan.

>>1994288
The implied meaning of "gifted" is having the choice of free time to explore art and practice, instead having to scramble for the main things in life.

>>1999303
nice b8

>>1999303

>>1999306

>>1998111
that torso to neck ratio is manly

left shoulder is in an awkward place

>>1999303
you could be on your hustle but still learn things like art an shiz, you jus usually have to give somethin up in return, like sleep, or a social life.

in fact, i know a shit ton of people on their hustle, never went to college, some haven't even graduated high school, an you know what they often have to do to get by? art

>>1999303
Bait.

>>1999308
>torso to neck ratio
please expand upon this topic

>>1999319
I think what he means is that the top of the ribcage is about the size of the neck it's pretty small especially on females.

>>1999319
width looks a bit off, the forward lean perspective wouldn't make shoulder width wider than hips from that far.

How the downward wrist perspective is drawn compared to its hand looks wrong also

A little warm-up. Messed up the whole thing.

>>1999329
Yep.

Now that I look back, the pic I made was pretty damn awful. I tried remaking it. Is this better?

>>1999388
dat face
is this your style or accidental?

>>1999390
What do you mean? Did I screw up something on the face?

>>1999393
>>1999388
it looks like a balloon face.

>>1999401
Oh, I guess style then. I always do faces like that.

>>1999404
Then don't do that. It looks bad.

>>1999388
To me the eyes look a little... dead, i guess but the overall look of the face is great except for the mouth; it just looks lazily drawn. I'm not keen on the finger/ toe proportions either, the little ones shouldn't be the biggest and her left hand appears to be missing a thumb.
Now that's out of the way, could I please have some context for the swastika nipples?

>>1999406
They're supposed to be stickers covering the nips

>>1999393
>Did I screw up something on the face?
It's curiously weird how you can't see how bad that looks.

>>1999388
Stop shitposting

>>1999433
fuck off, you were all bad at one point..

>>1998325
back 2 beginners thread m80

>>1998363
Calm your tits

>>1997663
I've never really done lighting like this before. I think i like it.

Please help with boops

It's a drawing for somebody so I don't want it to look super weird.

I usually don't have trouble with drawing breasts but her chest is about a B-cup and her top is supposed to kinda push them up to create cleavage and I'm confused

>>1999532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K60GO86aJgc

practicin drawin someone squattin an muffed up an made the head too big, now they look like a lil kid/preteen :/

>>1999482
their right ear (our left) wouldn't have that lil warm highlight on the part that's right next to the hair. the background's also a lil iffy interms of shadin but really it adds to the composition by causin focus on the head so it's a-okay in my book. really nice atmospheric sunsetty lightin

i jus noticed the lil thing floatin in the air now. what is that, a piece of their hair or some kinna ship weirdly colored moon or somethin? if it's a floaty bit of the hair, i like it, nice lil stylistical thing, i really like floaty bits

>>1999532
here you go, friend
https://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/character-anatomy-breast/
i could redline it for you, but teach a man to fish as they say

you're almost there honestly, the right (her left) is fine at the moment, but i'd drop the left (her right) down a bit an maybe a lil bit farther left so that it falls in perspective with her shoulders/chest

also, the right (her left) eye/eyebrow is a wee bit off/outta line with her face

>>1999537
It's actually a still from my new animated avatar on DA. I tend to draw the afro with circle pieces coming off of it when I animate (I think it looks cool). But I liked the flats so I rendered the color on the guy but then the back just looked bad so I did a quick thing (lazy in retrospect).

Defense of Colony U-27 by the Jupiter Militia

>>1998811
>>1998999
>>1999136


Thanks once again, I really have a hard identifying my errors :S

>>1999561
well shit, you made something different for once.
also why do you insist on using pen and paper that bleeds?

>>1999025
excellent idea (trying to work on your storyboarding and silhouettes in this manner), unfortunately the execution isnt very good- though I guess this is why you're practicing in the first place!

Before seeking critique, I would encourage you to asses the readability if your comic in thumbnail form. Based on what you're focusing on (silhouettes and storyboarding), you should definitely be able to read your comics from a distance; however, this is not the case. I'd like to be able to offer your some real micro critique, but I'm afraid I'm not in the right state of mind to help out.

>>1999561
whos the artist and whats his technique?

Perspective homework.
Forever suck with inking and line art, I am more a painter.

Critique welcome.

I quite like this ,and will paint this as a portfolio.

>>1999673
nice.
becare of the calvicle, seems a bit off, i guss

>>1999561
Your values are muddy, and condensed. You are also treating every element within the composition the same in terms of coloring, line style, and texture.

Threw together some VERY rough mockups of what exploring and utilizing a full range of values can do for the readability of your image.

>>1999663
your architectural perspective is a little off, and the figures dont play well in its space. They feel flat and stiff. The piece at least feels ambitious, and I would encourage you to try redoing it once or twice.

>>1999681
The guy has a established aesthetic. Your suggestions aren't going to improve the picture in context to his body of work. That being said, not everything needs to look like a Caravaggio painting.

>>1999673
oo really nice!

the eyes are creepy as fuck tho, but thats nothing major, and could be changed really easily.

reposting, and I was told they look old.

>>1999673
eyes on top left are okay, eyes on top right are a bit wonk (our left/her right eye appears to be lookin away from the viewer because of pupil placement), bottom right has same problem in the eye on our right/her left, also the tiny-ness of her pupils make her look subtly surprised/unsettled/crazy

somethin ive been working on on my phone just cause it turned out nice i guess

small as shit image whoops

>>1999696
body still looks way too long.
sometimes you should definitely make the neck longer

>>1999696
It's because of the messy cleanup and unessiccary folds.
It makes her look like she has excess skin witch is something that only happens with old people.

>>1999682
Thanks for advice.
Have the same feeling too.
Should redraw it m especially characters before painting

>>1999679
ooh, meant to comment on clavicle too, let me draw thing, forgive me, did this up quick in mspaint
the one on the up left, her right (our left) clavicle's a bit wonk, clavicles rise up to meet the top of the shoulder bone right around where the lil muscle that slants down from the neck to meet the shoulder

>>1999696
for wrinkles an folds in younger people's skin, it's better to jus do the contour lines of the outer form an then use value to show the lil wrinkles an bends in skin, it gives a much more youthful appearance than hard line wrinkles do

>>1999663
the perspective feels weird an not everything falls into it, characters feel stiff an not really part of the scene, composition is odd/awkward. the foreground elements are a nice touch tho, but everything else leaves a lil to be lackin, sorry i can't really help much other than pointin things out :c

>>1999696
>>>1999696
nice.
But PLEASE study real head proportion. This can help you understand how anime style "stylized" and have a better proportion.

BTW, the one on right got a broken neck lol

>>1999673
Anyone find out where he's copying from?

Thanks guys have my ref

>>1999732
That would take forever to find.

>>1999723
perhaps you need to look into big book of proportions yourself, especially the "they change from person to person" chapter.

>>1999751
Oh, proportions? Just study proportions? Why don't I strap on my proportion helmet and squeeze down into a proportion cannon and fire off into proportion land, where proportions grow on little proportion trees?!

>>1999758
what the fuck dude just go study shit. it's not hard.

I need help. Whats the next step to this coloring process? I always get stuck here.

>>1999764
clean up the line and fix the main lighting set up in the scene.
For your level, u will get a horrible result if u try to start coloring from this stage.

I know it is fun to paint directly, but if the form is off, it is meaningless

>>1999762
Post your shit.

>>1999663
deviant art tier designs
you might not think it matters for perspective homework but it will leave a better impression on whomever is grading and end up getting you a better mark. Most people will only focus on less than 30% of a picture, but that other 90 percent is what matters,. so cut out that Space Ogre™ and mechanic, place attention on the Space Princess and dehumanize the Space Marine™. Too showcase you understanding of perspective ad more to the hallway or make it lead into a larger room. For aesthetics look at real guns for reference when making your space guns it will help immerse the viewer.

>>1999696
OMG!! IT LOOKS BETTER THAN SAKIMICHAN!!!

>>1999786
:^)

I think it's the first thing I ever made that I don't completely hate, all the lurking here paid off.

>>1999807
i really really like it, but I feel like it is a work in progress. I feel like there could be much more to the hair and the clothing. The skin is very good but it needs more definition to the nose.
Looks good though i like it

>>1999816
You're right, but I'm afraid to work on the hair because it usually turns out too shiny and I think I'll end up ruining it.

>>1996005
You got a blog?

>>1997360
>draw cute/happy girls
>makes you feel happier
>profit

Works for me. Wallowing in feels isn't good for you or your art.

>>1998377
Shoulder and neck are way out of position, face is lovely though. Got a site?

>>1999696
Your body's are improving, but you should really focus on the faces. It's where eyes go first and is most important part of piece. Draw even like 5 heads a day of chicks on tumblr or some shit, and then 5 of Miku from different angles/expressions, and just keep that up. Do it for a week and your brain will start to get the feel of what goes where. Keep at it.

>>1999807
Shading between nose and cheek is weird as well as nostril placement, unless he's supposed to have this wide and oddly shaped nose in which case good job I guess. Not sarcastic, I have no idea what the character is meant to look like, I just know nose looks weird. Also the ears are placed slightly off too, and don't line up properly. Other than that, Maybe some darker and lighter values here and there to make it pop out a bit more, it's pretty flat at the moment. Nice though.

afro time

>>1999764
If you dont know what to do at this point, then you arent ready to go to the coloring process. Get more detailed lines and a clear idea of what you want it to look like.

>>1997121
Did you reference the crimean skull and indian guy that were posted in the previous thread? What the fuck?

>>1999875
Holy fuck do you actually post here!?! I've been following you for a while! your stuffs great!

>>1999533
I love the sound effect when they pull the strings.

>>1999537
I'm doomed

>>1999696
dont add innecessary bumps, remember you are stylizing
i know you can do it m8, keep practicing!!

So, is it alright? The proportions, especially her right arm, feel off.

>>1999907
ah shit, I forgot to resize.

look at my shitty jojos
I'm trying to draw males better.

>>1999915
>JoJo's
>males
Just reference some Vogue covers, that's what Akari does anyways.

>>1999643
It's Bagbosse.
It's Bagbosse technique.
Bagbossing until the end of time.

>>1999875
Tumblr, DA?

>>1999916
Well I'd say part 1-4 have pretty manly looking dudes
save the outfits

>>1999696
>>1999906
also wanted to practice some simple rendering . hope you dont mind

>>1999968
this looks really great from the thumbnail and very awkward and amateurish up close.

>>1999915
I saw this on the front page and wanted to show my joeyjoeys too

>>1999971
give me your man drawing skills

>>1999968

>>1999835
Assuming it was done digitally, remember that you can start working in a new layer if you're afraid of additions ruining your work.

>>1999976
i am >>1999999

>>1999537
thickened things up a bit

>>1999896
don't give up now, you're gettin there, next thing to do is redraw the dress/pushup bra thing to fall in line wif da perspective of dem bubs

>>1999927
lookin at the body, okay, not bad, arms a bit weird but whatever, let's see how the face- oh... oh man

that face is in a different perspective from the head it's attacked to, gotta go back an realign then redo all that renderin, i'm sorry (or jus say fuck it an move that face up till it's in the proper position relative to the top of the head if the head were actually facin that perspective, your choice)

>>1999976
sry this redline is bullshit

>>1999849

>Tumblr is still a wip
http://sachcell.deviantart.com/

>>1999663
>Sneak aound the corner
>Stick out HUGE fucking knife

kek

>>1999927
Not at all it looks great thank you for doing this though she looks surprised, try giving a relaxed look like having her eyes closed half way maybe?

>>1999927
>also wanted to practice some simple rendering hope you dont mind

Not at all, it looks great thank you for doing this though she looks surprised try giving a relaxed look like having her eyes closed half way maybe?

>>2000004
>that face is in a different perspective
spot on anon
>>2000229
i am also learning to stylize, still trying to figure out a level of stylization i like

>>1999849
Yeah the nose is supposed to be big and hooked but I don't know if I went overboard, is it too bad? The author of the series is also inconsistent with his art so it's hard to find a reference and stick with it.

What should i fix in the character before going any further

>>2000282
>no feet syndrome
re-think that pose, son. Do some studies of similar subjects before going ahead and doing something you're not sure about.

>>1994332
Dude? Why are you posting my drawing?
>>1994337
>>1996321

Yeah, I didn't post that. Someone else did. Using the exact same words I used last time.

>>2000284
cute expression

>>2000284
god fucking damn it yoou have to put muscles on every fucking thing. I bet your tablet pen has muscles too.

>>2000343
/fit/ girls are best girls Anon

>>2000349
just fuck a man already.

>>2000343
10/10 I laughed

>>1999875
Love the face, and dig the feet and body, though she could use a pelvis.

>>2000267
It's not so bad, and I said how I didn't know the character because it could be meant to be like that. It is pretty wide looking at the moment though, so maybe bring that inner cheek/nose shadow in a little bit.

>>2000372
Do fit girls make you feel uneasy?

>>2000429
Disgusting

>>2000430
Empowering

>>2000430
Yeah, she's not fat. I love fat grils.

>>2000429
this is ok
>>2000431
this is kill yerself

>>2000431
You killed my boners for the next 2 weeks.

>>2000435
you 'mirin?

fit goils?

>>2000431
There's nothing wrong with this body. I mostly feel respect towards this girl for puting so much work into getting a body she wanted.

>>1994802

>>2000437
got more fit girls?

>>2000437
I sure this gorilla have unshaven armpits.

Fit girls are great! Jacked girls are fuckin disgusting, probably because it challenges my masculinity. Overall, if her arms are bigger than mine that's a red light

felt like a dumb teenager drawing this
i'll just hope dA eats it up kek

>>2000372
>2015
>not liking /fit/ girls

>>2000486
she doesn't even look fit... just normal body

>>2000497
more like tumblr

>>2000284
I for one really like that you put muscles on pokemon. It shows that they are strong and trained. There's nothing wrong with strong females. It's just not my personal preference.
Keep up the good work

>>2000251
Looking awesome

>>1999663
the guy with the knife would look better if you changed the angle of his head. having him at that generic 3/4 view of a head makes him look way out of place, like he's not part of the picture. either turn his head to face the monster more, or turn it to the viewer and angle it up a bit. his eyes should lead directly to the monster though. his body has all the feel of being pushed up against the wall, but his head is just jutting out there like a turkey

>>2000343
nah only on cute girls man

Trying to stylize but also keep her likeness.

>>2000781
What a cutie pie

>>2000781
why are you leaving her pupils empty? it's pretty important for design and also for your style in general. the way you draw them can also change the impression she makes by a lot.
..unless you're planning to do it in color later.

.

Just a dooble. Self portrait

>>2000799
Nice doll.

>>2000429
this fag trolls on /a/ with this same shit
no one will recommend him anime

>>2000803
neat. box seems a bit too wobbly maybe.

>>2000799
head shape is wrong

>>2000799

How long was it before the human body was ingrained in your mind to the point where you could draw it without reference?

>>2000835
Never

>>2000803
too fat.

>>1999482
On to the next one. It's coming along nicely I think.

>>2000958
I REALLY LIKE it, i really like your floaty bits, please link your work, wanna keep up with ur shiz, m8y

>>2000970
Thanks dude. I honestly don't have anything notable on my deviantart or tumblr so i'm not sure if linking would be such a great idea. But I will be updating here though.

Still wip but i'm going to bed so I added flats. If I could get feedback on how to improve this by the time I wake up tomorrow that would help me a lot.

I think the boy came out better than the gril.

>>1994452
Hearing dimensions like these reminds me of how I crashed my shitty laptop trying to blend at 2000x2000... With Sai...

My laptop sucks...

>>2001004
Lego will sue you

>>2001082
My sides. I like those portraits but dear god my sides at this comment.

>>2001004
i disagree. i think the girl is a bit better.

i like them though, in terms of style at least. i think it certainly bares development.

a bit more..um, competency, would be great too though, just like a better understanding of proportion, perspective, line etc

>>2000781
More, please continue posting here
Also tumblr/blog/da please

anyone got a ref in this position/angle?

>>2000781
The neck appears a tad bit too long even with stylizing for the two views with the body. Something off about the muscles, insertion of the neck, or perspective. Though small issue and might just be my imagination.

>>2000781
How do I get good like you

>>2001105
Thanks. I certainly need to sit down and just study the basics, but it's hard because they're well, they're kind of boring. But I know the payoff is worth it.

I should've stayed with cel shades, but I thought I'd be smart or something and try labour-intensive methods that don't work. Figured the shading style I went with on this would grow on me, but with three of four finished I'm not feeling it went well at all. Anyone have a critique on where I went wrong, or if there's anything I can do to fix it?

foolishly, I thought I could beat my big brother

fuck, didn't realize how narrow the canvas was.

>>2001178
hoW COULD YOU FALTER
WHEN YOU'RE THE ROCK OF GIBRALTAR
HAD TO GET OFF THE BOAT SO I COULD WALK ON WATER

>>2001180
words are meaningless now,
critique me, anon

>>2001127
eat healthy

>>2000429
Sophie best girl

went back to cleaning this up more..

Playing around with trying to draw babes like Bruce Timm.

>>2001240
derp. Meant to post colored one.

>>2001242
are you a girl (and/or dfab) by any chance?

>>2001249
unfortunately.

About Vilppu, where do I get his books? Are they books or video tutorials? i only see a step by step figure drawing in the collection of books op linked, but nothing else. I remember another mediafire archive around here in one of the other threads.
The official site only sells online courses if I remember correctly.
Thanks

>>2001254
why can i always tell from the style, there's some weird cultural shit goin on here

on topic, bruce timm uses very specific proportions an line weights/style/shape breakdowns (i presume we're referrin to his batman phase), i feel you gotta study up more on the basics before you can attempt his way of doin things in a way that you will be satisfied with

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>>2001360
>>2001360
>>2001360

>>2000908
>m-muh preference!

>>1999116
I read it just fine, I was saying that approach in art is centuries old and calling it "50s style" makes no sense.

>>2001540
what, you telling me that flat, stylized cartooning of that kind was made in the medieval ages?