/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

If I want a style like my favourite artist(s) I just do studies, and copying them until the stylisation is in my head?

>>1986082
it's not really possible to aquire someone elses style just by copying. you can let yourself get influenced, but usually your own style will differ from that of your favorites.
you can try to force it by copying, but you'll most definitely fail if you don't have the same fundamentals or other knowledge that the artist has in his head.
it's better focus on your fundies first and then develop your own style according to your influences.

you can try to study their styles it in depth. but again, without fundies it will probably just confuse you. even with good fundamentals you may not be able to grasp why an artist draws in the way he does. many choices will be totally arbitrary, that's just the nature of "style".

>>1986092
Well, I'm going gesture and studies, so it should be OK? I'm doing fundies at the same time.

>>1986102
Not him, but yes, you can do both.
A good practice is to take a drawing you like and try to gesture and sketch what led up to it.
And of course, never trace, just draw side by side.

>>1985877

link to that japanese girl reference? are there more?

What's the next step? Critique more than welcome.

>>1986317
Needs more Loomis.

>>1986266
It was from the clothing refs >>1980742

Mmm I think I might do a swap and put the clothing of one on the pose of the other...

>>1986317
sorry, but the next step is the beginner thread and the sticky.

can you guys give me some critiques before start clothing her?

>>1986360
Anatomy is completely off.
>cuerpo
Use references is you're still learning anatomy and gestures.

>>1986360
stop using spaggetti arms before I slap you

>>1986367
i think those arms look really good actually.

>>1986372
Dude what?

>>1986372
Stop abusing substances.

>>1986372

>>1986372

>>1986360

what the fuck am i doing

>>1986403
Not thinking in forms and shapes and perspective.

>>1986408
how about now

>>1986413
not that guy.
better, but now you're not drawing anything

>>1986413
Indicate the side plane, be careful with the placement of the ear and be conscious about the neck. The best way to do this is to have a box form for the head to help show where it is in space.

everything hurts

Also: progress

how about missing noses as a stylistic choice?

i think its cute

>>1986446
Only in moe anime

>>1986446
it can work

>>1986446
Xebec is the best, but your girl is not healthy enough.

>>1986446
It's okay but it usually makes me think of some Tumblr bs, along with the whole "red noses like they have a cold" thing. Anime characters without noses can work too if you actually scale the face accordingly. A regularly proportioned head with the nose taken off is creepy.

I really want to move to a more painterly style, and I have the skills to do it, but I have so much fucking pride in my lineart, it being one of the only things I can do well, that I really don't want to make the switch. Fffffft.

>>1986772
Examples of your art?

>>1986772
fucking do it you cunt. you can still do your lineart drawings on the side. getting good enough to paint with heart is better than sex.

So is there any way for a westerner to learn how to draw a proper anime art style or is all we have available to us western shit that builds up the wrong fundamentals for it?

>>1986816
You can try lil homie

>>1986816
not your heritage

>>1986845
I dunno, I've tried to learn any way I could for like 2 years and I've gotten nowhere, and every time I try to learn properly I immediately start drawing tumblr nose among other shit.
I probably just suck though

>>1986816

Fucking follow the dream m8, theres plenty of shitty japanese anime artists on pixiv. Lurk until you see another library thread popup and download as many anime books as you can as reference material.

>>1986869
Ride the French train

>>1986874
I wish more young people would do this. The french have an incredible culture for comics and animation. Totally underrated.

>>1986874
they all look like niggers

>>1986877
Fine.
Stay with your generic, no lips pasty white anime girls.

>>1986876
I agree

>>1986874
french art is an abomination

>>1986884
K

>>1986884
It can be pretty good when they arent trying to make a character "sexy" sadly they nearly always are.

>>1986893
same for jap shit

>>1986889
So what, "french" art is a mix of disney, animu and huge ugly lips? Did I get that right?

>>1986871

A lot of times you can find artbooks on sadpanda if you're one of those degenerates who melts in the sun.

>>1986901
Aside from the subjective stuff, that's pretty much it, French animation is a very interesting mixture of Eastern and Western influence.

I think I just figured out how to use the clipping mask... this is what I do but I am not sure if there is a better way...
>paint some region on Layer 1
>duplicate Layer 1 to Layer 2
>create clipping mask on Layer 2
>delete painted region on Layer 2 (not sure if this is right)
>paint whatever you want on Layer 2 - shadows highlights etc
>adjust clipping mask with brush / eraser on Layer 1 which automagically clips at Layer 2!!

Scrapping this crap drawing and starting a new one. I figured out the mask thing while doing the pants on (2)

>>1986937
dont use white to highlight
careful with the folds. that looks like a huge pussy on 2
also got to ctrl paint man, matt has explained pretty much all photshop

>>1986876
i thik this style isn't exclusively french but italian, with alessandro barbucci having pretty much exactly this style

>>1986874
>>1986882
>>1986889
like that stuff a lot though, why's dA acc deactivated?

>>1986927
well as a french, there's a very simple explanation: children emulate what is on tv/books
so, 60s children draw in old school franco-belgian comic way
70s are more disney/american comics
80s is the manga generation
90s is the cartoon network generation

You can easily guess a french illustrator generation by identifying his main infliences.

Any tips? Still getting used to Photoshop.

>>1986968
ouais, this

>>1986970
Her face looks too big to me. Maybe downsize her head and face. The pose on the other hand is rather nice.

>>1986968
Pretty sure manga generation has been since the 80's and never stopped.

>>1986996
well astroboy was around in the 60s, so like my mum watched anime as a kid too

>>1987005
there's a difference in watching an anime, and watching LOTS of them.
In the 80s, french TV got fucktons of anime: lots of magical girls, dragon ball and sailor moon, saint seiya, city hunter and hokuto no ken (yes, on CHILDREN timeslots), robots with patlabor and grendizer, etc...
Plus at the same time, some franco-japanese collabs where aired, like Ulyss 31 or the Mysterious cities of gold, which already had a style mixed between classical european comic and japanese style.

And all the while, Disney stayed strong. Disney series like Ducktales, Rescue Rangers and Talespin where also showed. And of course the "classical" cartoons like Bugs bunny and Hannah Barbera's also had their slots. Truly, the 80s where a time with much diversity on french TV

>>1986772
>but I have so much fucking pride in my lineart
i can guarantee you that your lineart isn't that good.
now i may be wrong and it might be great, but i'm telling you: you're just shooting yourself in the foot with this "pride".

>>1986949
>careful with the folds. that looks like a huge pussy on 2
i can't unsee it...

I'll hit up ctrl paint tomorrow, thanks

In other news, I'm giving up for today. These fucking faces and dumbass painting. UGHHHH SO FRUSTRATING!!

I can't look at this bitch's face anymore. I redrew it 5 times tried the little box thing but I keep getting symbol'd faces.

The worst part is that now I have to practice fucking faces, and I hate fucking faces. I wish I could just draw sunglasses on everyone and have them smoking a cigarette.

Plus I can't pick colors for shit in PS how the fuck do you know what color to shade stuff? I'm flipping those HSB sliders every 30s and the dumbass 10x10 pixel swatch is too fucking small to extrapolate onto the canvas.

Fuck!

>>1987036
a few tips:
-measure more, and measure carefully.
-try to get forms right with longer continuous lines instead of that impatient and wild chickenscratching.
-push it more. you tend to stop at this stage, but it's still just a sketch. push your pieces further to the "finished" side. right now it's like you are drawing to show your little sketches to the thread, but actually try to push your work so far that it becomes presentable as a whole, and not only as a sketch. (that way you'll also get a better feel for what you are really capable of and what you need to work on)

seriously, don't keep fucking around with loose sketches, it'll become a habit. learn to push your pieces till the end, study or not.

>>1986877
This. Your drawing are unsettling, frenchfag.

>>1986877
Well, there are a lot of niggers in France...

>>1987044
>measure more, and measure carefully
fuck, i didn't measure anything. At some point will too much measuring = tracing?

>try to get forms right with longer continuous lines
I need to do warmups with the tablet, I can't get consistent lines yet

>don't keep fucking around with loose sketches
I'm so much slower with digital and I start to burn out by the end of the night. I'm not used to having a drawing span multiple days and i fear turd polishing. I'll give it some more patience, and dump the quick exercises in the beginner thread.

Thanks for all the help recently!

>>1986970
how do you add that red/blue outline effect?

>>1986816
yes, I'm asian though.

>>1987053

>>1987052
honestly, studies are better done on paper. i recommend it.

>At some point will too much measuring = tracing?
feel free to trace if you can learn something from it. in fact i recommend that you trace that image and then compare/overlay the result to your initial sketch. the differences will tell you a lot about your weaknesses.
and seriously, measure more carefully. you really won't learn anything otherwise.

>I need to do warmups with the tablet, I can't get consistent lines yet
do it anyway. it isn't that hard, it's just making lines. draw and erase until you get it right if you have to, it's completely normal.
it will become easier the more you do it. "warmups" won't get you any of this experience.

>I'm not used to having a drawing span multiple days and i fear turd polishing.
if they are unsaveable turds, don't polish them, that much should be obvious. but on the other hand, it is your job to make turdy sketches into something better. you have to know when to push and when to just scrap it.

Critique before I continue?

>>1987127
Corrected a little

>>1987133
das awesome

>>1987061
Please don't encourage people, too much of it out there :(

>>1986874
This artstyle is just...no

First time trying from behind

I know about chicken scratch and I don't use it when I'm actually drawing and I dream of getting rid of this habbit, but when I'm sketching so i'm not sure where exactly doesthe line go I can only do so.

>>1987190
Stop chickenscratching.

>>1987194
I'm trying toi, bro, i'm trying.

BTW wha about the figure? how fucked up is it?

>>1987196
Hand is too small, but really stop chicken scratching.

>>1986956
>why's dA acc deactivated?
Dunno

>>1987176
Thats fine.
What are your tastes?

Who's that French artist who drew the comic about a little Roman boy getting bummed by old Roman men?

Can anyone pls suggest artists with styles similar to this?

>>1987239
Yeah because nobody knows fucking Toriyama, right?

>>1987240
Excuse me? Toriyama is fucking shit compared to that.

>>1987243
Get out

>>1986871
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WBAlWbAY!OHlVpL_6vsusinFzniu4_g

>>1987264
hot diggity

>>1987264
Which ones of these are anumu based?

>>1987239
>the one to the far left

>>1987243
it can't be compared. but i'd definitely say it's more modern.

>>1987240
>can't distinguish between style and characters
kek.

>>1987064
Good stuff m8, feeling revived after some sleep. I'm ready to dive back in tonight.

Lineart done.

>>1987463
Got a site?

>>1987465
I have a tumblr. It's not all art-related, but mostly. I try to keep other stuff to a minimum.
http://xipel.tumblr.com/

I need to work on creating more dynamic poses and dimension. Boo hoo.

>>1986889
>fish lips
>sameface
no

>>1987463
Very Nice.

My most recent piece.

>>1987475
Very nice! Thank you

>>1987194
>>1987203

not him, but how?
you just keep saying not to, which is obvious, but what do you do to stop chicken scratch?

just keep drawing shit until you can do it in one stroke?

>>1987565
You break up the drawing into easy pieces that can be done in one stroke. The most obvious area would be the lengths of the forearm. I like to do the upper arm going into the shoulder in one stroke because it is a pretty curve.

>>1987463
how do you clean, smooth lines nigger?

>>1987565
nut that guy, but this is one of the things where you simply stop doing it.
"draw with as few lines as possible" or "draw only the best lines", that's the type of mentality you should have.

for example: you can make a average sized circle in one, two or maybe even three lines, but if you need any more than that then you are doing something wrong.

>>1987600
By drawing them.
Really, just round hard brush on photo shop with pen pressure turned out.

>>1987239
Like this?
Artist is riyoushikiha

cant get neither cartoony nor real looking faces

>>1987565
>Don't pet the line
>Draw ONE line for your contours
>Don't pet the line

This isnt a redline just me showing that you don't have to be an art prodigy I'm obviously not to take advantage of one of the strongest points of digital drawing. LAYERS
It really isn't that hard.

>>1987190
Use more references when you're drawing.
something about that pose feels really unnatural.

>>1987684
Forgot pic

>>1987639
I spent a lot of time on Pintrest to see how other people approach it and got a better understanding.
Pic isnt mine

>>1987639
Thats pretty good. Blog?

>>1987698
>Pic isnt mine
so why are you posting it bitchwad ?

>>1987724

Not him but its pretty obvious that its an example for the other guy to learn from.

>>1987684
>Reference

I suppose it'd take me ages to find a photo with a chick in similar pose, I just don't know where to get the refs, if there's a quick way to get what you need I don't know about it.
An I also think that thinking for myself is more beneficial to my skill.

I think I should move the elbow a bit down, it should be slightly downwards, while now it's slightly upwards.

But apart from the pose, what about the anatomy, proportions, aesthetics of her body and stuff?
This is the first time i post something and people don't tell me to kill myself and don't point out a thousand things to fix so I don't even know what to do.
Can it be I drew somethingOK? I can't believe.

>>1987733
You cleaned up your lines, now learn about line weight.

>>1987733
Why do you hate the third dimension?

>>1987738
It's not me, the third dimension hates me.

Actually i couldn't build the figure properly because it's my first time doing it from behind

>>1987729
still a bad idea to post in a thread where we are supposed to critique each others work.

>>1987796

Not really, because it helps enhance his critique, he even declared it wasn't his.

>>1987797
you don't have to tell me twice. but during the stone age...

How do I make this more visually appealing? I'm just churning out eye candy at this point

>>1987803

I lightened the background and drop a bit of glow on her face and hands.

Might just be personal preference but brighter and more saturated colors generally make something more appealing. I'd clean up the area under her arms too if i were you.

>>1987803
>red tumblr nose
>pimples on elbows
>chromatic abberration
>gradient in the background
>added finger on her left hand and fixed arm height

>>1987809
agree with this anon

>>1987803
It's very soft. I would like to see some defined lines and edges.

>>1987809
>>1987803
>>1987811
I"d just do this

>>1987803
agree with this anon
>>1987814
Needs some defined lines, it's kinda difficult to look at.

>>1987799
Goddammit I couldn't stop thinking about this same exact phrase all fucking day what the fuck does that even mean it's like the Autism has turned into some form of an enigma that won't leave me alone and that stupid fucking face falling down from the sky what the bloody hell is going on there is it a Sonic Asteroid or someshit goddammit I hate that.

>>1987820
but all that is down is only the floor :>

>>1987820
Sonic-chu happend.
/v/ happend

>>1986074
WIP... Help me before I screw this thing over.

>>1987825
>That face
I already recognize you, fix them.
The hips are too wide imo.

>>1987803
>>1987818
>>1987819

You could also just drop a single hard edged object in there to grab attention, but thats probably going away from your original idea.

>>1987819
Yeah even if it's just the main focal points it needs some depth and definition. the bangs are a good place. The hands too if we're going to get really wild and crazy.

Anything to make this better before I color? Any palette suggestions?

>>1987839
it looks like you are covering them in puffy clothes cause you don't know how to construct the anatomy

>>1987839
Are you saying the figures are poorly constructed or are you complaining that they're too covered up?

>>1987803
Her mouth is falling from a side

>>1987855

He's saying they are only clothed like that because you cannot draw arms properly.

Even a normal shirtsleeve requires knowledge of the underlying forms of the arm, he's implying that you're using puffy clothes as a way to cover up your lack of knowledge.

No offense meant by the way.

>>1987858
I'm still rather confused, do the sleeves look wrong?

>>1987855
both of their bodies facing same tilted direction
both faces are faced straight forward
torso anatomy in general looks off

>>1987865

No, they're not wrong, the same way as drawing someone with their hands behind their back isn't wrong.

Its just rather simplistic.

>>1987869
>>1987866
assumptions aside, this is what I was going for.

Any potential?

>>1987874

Ah, fair enough then. Some more compression wrinkles like whats in the reference image you've attached would be great.

>>1987877
It's cute. Take it to the beginner's thread.

Trying to practice faces

>>1987900
looks good

>>1987638

nigga dats koki

yaaaa? or naaaaaa?

Does this anatomically make sense? Before I continue with details...

>>1987988
nuh

>>1988056

Yea its passable. The knights armor gives the impression of him having a longer torso though, making his arm appear too short in relation but thats not a big deal imo. You might be able to solve it by adding some sort of wrapping line around it to push it into the page. and give it some depth to accommodate for how short it looks.

Having a hard time drawing this arm.

>>1984358
I fixed a few things and tried to spice up the lines

>>1988119
Do you do any initial construction before that? Because it seems you are jumping straight into outlining the character without thinking in terms of form or perspective. This makes the drawing flat and it looks like you are still doing a lot of symbol drawing for example the eye and the whole outline of the face. Think in simple shapes first and then apply that to the anatomical construction of the human body. tl;dr you're jumping the gun, slow down you got time

>>1987708
thanks
>Blog?
dont have, should I get one? these comic gals pics seem to be very popular

>>1988141

I can see a bit of line width variation but its still not doing much. It really depends on how you color it too, if you left it as just ink obviously you'd have to go a bit harder with it but for coloring thin lines should be fine enough as long as you render it a bit.

taking my time with this one. I spent half the night trying to pick a pose... and then I had to adjust the pose (hence the chicky scratchy). Then I spent like an hour doing lines...

Trying to be patient I guess. Gonna fix some of the white pads and add more details and stuff tomorrow.

>>1988219
>add more details and stuff tomorrow

Some lines on the pads, like the lines between different sheets of metal as they're joined together would be a good way to show form m8.

/ic/, I heard painting/coloring with a white background is a bad idea as it will make the color dry, and if the background color is black or something "faded" (sorry for the term, my english is very limited), the colors will appear vibrant. So if these, actions are bad, what should I do now? Do I start drawing/coloring in which color background? It seems like if I go for any plain BG color, I've done something bad.
Also, I 've read somewhere here once that it pisses off people when animu artists only use darker shade of pink for coloring skin, so I've been trying some things whenever I get free time from factory. Basically, I still use darker shade of pink, sometimes orange-ish color, and then I try to use blue or gray for darker areas. Is that bad? How do I improve skin color

>>1988230
I don't paint myself, but I see a lot of digital artists use grey backgrounds.

>>1988230
>>1988244

A mid tone is great because it lets you work darker or lighter. As for your question over how to paint skin, it really is dependent on the style you're going for as well as the lighting, when in doubt the best options are to study from a variety of sources, your own skin, photos as well as the work of artists you appreciate, color pick the photos/art and analyze what sort of colors you get, try some life studies of your own skin or that of a models.

Good luck anon, the fact that you're varying up your colors shows that you have a lot of potential for this sort of stuff.

>>1988245
>>1988244
thanks you for your help!

ayyyy someone chose my drawing for the OP pic!

Bored, drawing midgets

sup rinbro

>>1988423
That's....that's not what nipples look like

>>1988430
Are you some kind of nipple expert?

>>1988423
Make her head bigger, small head make the shoulder look really wide

Rendering on the body is fucking sick though

>>1988423
i like her face

>>1988423
Post in the porn thread man

>>1988432
I'm not him and I'm not a nipple expert, but it almost looks like she has no nipples. I see the highlights on the top, but maybe a slight outline on the bottom side would make them stand out?

>>1988423
the childlike facial proportions really contrasts badly with the body.

>>1988423
>Kyle exhibiting from Mikufag syndrome

This is something out of Bizzaro world.

>>1988423
Those muscles are giving me a boner.
Ive been on /co/ for too long

>>1988423
The muscles are all messed up
The head is too small
And the iris too big

>>1987803
I'd remove the demon eyes.

>>1987825
Vagina too low, breasts too square shaped.

>>1988606
This.

For those of you who learned through videos, which ones helped you the most?

>>1988175
Well you're stuff is pretty great and with some improvements you could be one of those popular porn guys like Legoman. But that'd be up to you.

>>1988873
Vilppu's first video on gesture.

>>1986425

so I finished, and it took me way too long.
I learned a lot, so I guess that's good.

I guess one thing I'm curious about is whether or not it'd be a good idea to add some darker lines to make things more prominent or to just leave it as is.

Otherwise I get the feeling I should let it rest and just move on.

>>1988967
do those women have huge balls?

>>1988967
I can't say I know what's even going on.

.

>>1988977
Firez is that you?

>>1988979
Yep.

It honestly surprises me when people recognize my shitty stuff.

>>1988991
Your faces have the same expressions

>>1988991

It shouldn't, you've posted so much of your shit people can pick up on subtle things like mark making

>>1988977

Her eyes are bit too close together and the amount of detailing you've put on her eyelid folds is a bit jarring compared to how undetailed the rest of her face is. It looks appealing from the thumbnail tho.

>>1988991
It's true what they say you can recognize people by their work habits or even line quality or faces.

>>1988994
>>1988996
>>1988997
>>1988999
Well, thanks for the input. I'm trying to change my bad habits but it's quite hard when you barely have time to even sketch around.

Damn, I really... really regret not discovering art earlier when I had the proper time and health for this.

Back to tripfagging since it doesn't make a difference. Heh

>>1989009
fuck off tripfag

>>1989014
no, you fuck off guy who doesn't even draw.

and fuck you. ur mom is black slut.

just a paintover, but i guess it goes here

>>1989022
nice, make a patreon and start selling it like hot cakes.

>>1988967
i feel like you might have watched too much Me!Me!Me!

Jesus christ how do you ink??

>>1989016
If anything I'm making his/her life easier by making filterable.

I posted this in the DT but decided to make her more stylized. I think it looks a bit more decent now

Could i get some feedback on this? Wip btw.

>>1988221
>lines on the pads
i'm on it

Also if I need to tweak some anatomy is there a way to cut through all the layers in PS?

>>1989062
probably my favorite samus aran i've ever seen

>>1989062
juggernaut?'

>>1989064
>>1989062
T-that's Samus?
Looks like some sort of asian dude peeking through something.

>>1989062
dude on some girl's cleavage?

>>1989069
yeah it's crab suit samus.

>>1988972
I can't say I know what I wanted out of this piece ultimately
>>1989028
How?
Incidentally, that didn't even occur to me.

Also: sketches

>>1986360
The only thing I see wrong with the arms is the wrists. The arm needs to not be flush with the pinky finger; there needs to be a sort of ledge. You'll get it if you look at your hand.

>>1989064
>>1989069
>>1989071
Uh I had no idea who Samus was until now whilst drawing this.

>>1989070
Fair enough.

>>1989067
Pretty accurate.

>>1987133
Work on the butt of the gun, rotate the body and give it a stock.

>>1987825
fix the tits

>>1987133
>chromatic aberration
not even once

>>1988423
damn, that's nice. will you be polishing up those edges? i have a long way to go before I reach that level.

i kind of lost heart halfway through the pic; it was supposed to make me feel a little better because work's gotten me very down recently but all it ended up doing was frustrate me further. oh well.

>>1988423
kyle...finish this it looks terrible right now, actually draw in her nipples

who puts their hands backwards when getting out of a pool? is she even doing that or just on her knees?

Her hair looks like a plastic bag

this ain't you bro....

>>1988471
Mikufag actually "got gud" did you see his last pic? at this rate he might actually surpass Kyle

>>1989163
last pic as in the last one he put on deviantart?
it doesn't look very good.

>>1989022
You should tighten up the most forward edge of that nose and the eyes, and leave the rest with those awesome soft edges and this will be fucking awesome. It will just give it more depth to have the hard edges playing off the soft edges everywhere else.

>>1989031
Your ink is good, faggot, much better than most. Stop fishing for compliments.

>>1988967
Your shadows under women indicate that they are floating, but their pose says otherwise. Put some perspective in there!

calling this one done. I wanted to fix some of the knees but got lazy and didn't want to clean up the face linework...

New clipping mask procedure determined empirically:
>paint base color
>duplicate base 4-5 times
>create 4-5 clipping masks from duplicates
>over base do gradient, shade 0, shade 1, highlights
>go back to each mask and use half opacity air brush eraser to soften edges

Then I tried to do the hair, it was fucking impossible. I just started scribbling the base clipping mask for the hair to add strands, now its just random... Tips on hair?

I only know how to use 2 brushes... I always want that cool painterly looking brush that gives texture, but I can't find it.

Does this count as OC? I used a ref for the pose

Now i'm just rambling... I stayed up all night - time for work

>>1989283
You dun goofed with the colors

How do I fix this?

>>1989323
delete it

>>1989163
What's mikufags deviantart. I'll fite him irl

>>1989363
Ugly face

>>1989163
His faces are consistently horrible.

He either shoould re learn faces from a scratch or to start pullinng bags of their heads.

>>1989368
no. as much as i don't like kyle, he got a lot better with faces and even tries to draw skinnier girls >>1989363, even if it's not perfect yet, you have to give him the credit.

>>1989395
I meant Mikufag ofcourse,
Mikufag's faces are all fucked up since his very start and he never improv on faces at all.

>>1989399

What if mikufag is secretly a Godly draftsman who draws like that on purpose as a meme? I just find it hard to believe he barely improves.

>>1989427
What if he sacrificed his progress to become this thread's Ego Booster?

>>1989083
>I had no idea who Samus was

>>1987839
you better not try what samura do before actually learn to draw

>>1989460
>you better not try what samura do before actually learn to draw
Are you okay anon?

>>1989161
took a break, watched a bunch of anime, going to stop polishing this turd. at least i got it off my chest.

>>1989427
maybe he's just plateauing. i know i have been for quite a while, but i wont stop trying

>>1989515
It's too fucked up now

>>1989515

Rinfag make more line drawings and work on drafting nice lineart rather than go maximum overturdpolish with long pieces

I'd level that at any person here trying to make big extravagant painterly pieces or jerkoff render jobs, get your actual DRAFTSMANSHIP level up. Showy painting/ rendering can come later.

>>1989515
quick and dirty
i think you are overcomplicating things man
also this >>1989539

>>1989283
>>1989321

I dunno. I kinda like the color, but sometimes I think I'm an anomaly, even though I'm not, probably.

Anywho:
>hair
I like to handle hair by making blocks of color that suggest the major forms(geometry) of the hair, and then I just extend out from those shadows.

I'll paint up a quick example when I get home. I'm on lunchbreak atm.

>>1989610
Did this real fast, but hopefully it gets the point across.
Point is: define some basic geometry so your hair's not flat, and then put in some lines or whatever else to define some texture.

Everything else is largely up to how you want to render and what you want the hair to look like.

I hope that kind of helped.

How does my style look to you guys, pretty fond of this. I know I need to resize the pupils.

>>1989778
Furry shit

>>1989780
Ow my feelings

>>1989778
aside from being furshit, you haven't defined the inside of the ear.

Also the top of his head is missing, along with half of his brain.

>>1989780
>>1989799
>furries

But I can't complain about anthros because I grew up on things like Swat Kats, loony toons, and animal crossing. They are also easier to draw for some reason.

I was trying to gain my confidence in coloring back. I liked the way it turned out but the time I took to draw it was 5 days. Which I feel is kinda slow.

>>1989822
They're easier to draw because they have no human facial features, so you can make mistakes and nobody will easily notice.
Human brains are made to process fine details in facial expressions that make even the smallest mistake stand out in human faces.
That's why animals and other shit are often used to avoid the uncanny valley in 3D animation.

>>1989826
zsuit ruined samus

>>1989832
lol no

>>1989826
Samus' face is really odd, her pose awkward as well.

>>1989826
why so tiny legs on the master chief

>>1987825
fix the fucking hand, why does she have frog fingers? disgusting

>>1989839
>master chief

>>1989832
should I take out zero suit samus?
>>1989837
Ya I messed up on the initial gesture and didn't realized till I was pretty much done coloring her. The face is whatever. I'll fix it one day but I just want to move on to something new. Thanks for your input.
>>1989839
Now that you mentioned it the legs do look rather small. Thanks I'll try changing it.

>>1989831
That's exactly why. I tell people that animal are easier because it's just generally harder to identify flaws and asymmetry.
Also animals, in my opinion, just have more variety. Drawing people gets tiring and repetitive.

>cartooning general

Well, I made a comic. Tell me what I did wrong.

>inb4 nobody gets the joke

>>1989866
You barely drew anything at all

>>1989866
The joke is that they are from Poland, hence the "Poles" in the tltle, right?

>>1989866
I don't get it.

>>1989874
He's joking about how his perspective and composition are shiiiiiiit

>>1989866
Are they supposed to be climbing oh his back? Also fix your borders they look all gross and scratchy.

>>1989871
I guess you're right. I spent more time inking it in than drawing stuff. I tried going for a super high contrast style like what happens in those few Calvin and Hobbes strips where's Calvin's a detective or some shit.
>>1989873
>>1989874
>>1989879
>>1989880
They're both blind. Hence the title, the glasses, and the general appearance of the comic.

Yeah, it's a shitty joke and a shitty comic. More critique pls.

>>1989880
How would I go about fixing the borders? I just scanned the paper directly into black and white then threw on some text in Paint.

Am I fucking up the scanning part? The actual drawing's on a 4x6 notecard.

>>1989879
thanks for clarification.

Went to Pace Gallerey in New York last January to see a picasso exposition, wonderful artwork

>>1989879
Please be more specific, thanks.

>>1989882
You could clean it up with the ink you have now and re scan or you could get photoshop or a free drawing program to edit and draw a nicer border.

>>1989515

You should really work out any errors in anatomy, proportion, and planting your figures, BEFORE rendering the living hell out of them.

>>1989898
I selected everything black in photoshop, feathered it 1 pixel, and pasted it back in.

I have no idea if this is working.

>>1989922
No
You have to actually DRAW to fix those lines
Stop being lazy

>>1989924
I'm guessing this would be much easier if I started out digitally in the first place.

Will get to work on it, thanks for the advice.

>>1989921
how long did it took to do that redline? i bet twas like 10 seconds. fml :(((

>>1989921
>anatomyfag gimps the posing just to scribble some more muscle into it
Dat stiff T pose. Limbs mindlessly attached to the mannequin torso.

>>1989921
>anatomy
>animu

kekkest of keks

>>1989960

It's pretty difficult trying to fix incorrect figures, without completely redrawing all of their poses so that they aren't stiff, and fit properly in space. In any case, I'm more focused on correcting rinfag's muscle anatomy, because that's what he emphasizes the most, but draws it all wrong.

>>1989363
Kyle, do you plan to do anything with your art? Like become a concept artist or something? You could make thousands drawing for VN's or something.

>>1989577
>>1989539
>>1989921
thank you so much for this. i must've lost my way while mindlessly rendering it.

"overcomplicating things" made me think for a bit too, that could be one of the biggest flaws I have.

>>1990254
he does commissions, i believe.
what is it with concept art hardon these days. it's like there is no other form art work out there.

>>1989363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scaAz1zcdXI

>>1990268
because concept art allows people to create and conceptualize. i think anyone would like to see something they designed move and modelled on a big screen, all fleshed out and stuff.

however, this goes without saying, but it's nowhere near that. unless you have like 10 years of experience in the industry nobody will let you design the main characters for their games. for me myself, i've been given opportunities here and there to actually design something. most of what i do is rendering at work though.

>>1987600

Depends on your ability to draw straight and accurate lines, as well as the style and type of work you want to achieve. For example if you do solid clean ups with pencil a digital brush that mimics a pencil (it will be more soft and opaque than the default brush, the soft brush here will work: http://loish.deviantart.com/art/the-loish-brushset-477640124)) will do wonders for you. An advantage to this type of linework is that it is easier to feel out forms, however you will lose out on speed with this approach. This linework style is best done slowly, and a good example of it can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxcJez9Ge1Y

If you handle ink well then a brush with no opacity and the sensitivity turned on should be better for you. You could even consider scanning in your work and creating your linework traditionally. If done digitally you might place more of a focus on drawing one solid line for each line needed, like here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX8rpFKpr0Y

And you could even combine these two methods, or do some variation of them (like work with vectors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3uGeeenVls)), or something else entirely. There are many ways to do line-work, some better than others.

>>1989826
Hehe, it's cute.

Make the poses more dramatic and readable though!

>>1989321
>goofed with the colors
what kind of colors would you like? or do u mean the rendering?

>>1989750
cute tutorial! thanks m8 - I will try to map out the geometry next time. The flop of hair on her right side looked too thick after I blocked in the color, but I couldn't figure out how to thin it out. The solid mass of hair didn't really match the rest of the drawing.

too tired to start a new drawing
>tried to clean up the face
>just discovered the warp tool for decals and words - I will play with this later
>just discovered the gradient tool - I was just using the stupid brush before
>polygonal lasso is better than shapes tool - why would you ever use the shapes tool?

there are about a million other things in PS I have yet to discover, anything I should know about?

>>1990479
fix the goddamn face and then you can address that weird elongated, extended belly

>>1990480
sorry, you should have spoken up earlier, I was just playing with PS tools today - no plans to repolish turd.

accepting defeat - time to move on

>>1990484
>too tired to start a new drawing
>accepting defeat

good, you'll never draw again. glad we sorted that out.

>>1990479
fix the face and do hair diff style to fit it to the lineart
also no tablet, but i tried to somehow show my issue with the torso which is too long imo

>>1990494
well nothing more tonight - sweet dreams anon

>>1990498
how would one go about shortening the torso through all the layers? Should I just flatten everything? I still have all my layers set up

I was having trouble connecting the leg into the hip. No matter how much I mapped out the forms it didn't seem to fit - I think that is how the crotch dropped so low

>>1990506
>multiple layers

enjoy your hell, it's the future you chose

>>1990506
start from zero and draw a new one :^)

>>1990509
You could flatten all color layers and linework layer into two or three layers Just keep lines and color separate.

Or you could use Photoshops "repeat transformation" I don't use photoshop but I know it has a feature of remembering what exactly you did to one layer and doing the same again for everything,

Or I suppose you can transfor an entire group of layers if you group them up.

CTRL Paint encourages you to work with a flat imsge but I can't really make myself do it, i'm too unconfident with hat I do.

>>1990509
>>1990511
>draw a new one
Sounds like a plan

>>1990512
>keep lines and color separate
I'll keep this in mind

>group of layers
Ah I thought this was an illustrator thing, I'll have to google it for PS

>work with a flat imsge
Yeah I still feel like I need training wheels, but I gotta cut the cord eventually...

>>1989778
Do some studies of different dog breeds, that just looks slapped together, especially the ears.

>>1986874


You wanna know why?
compared to americans who have a divided culture (you're either a comic book nerd who likes DC/Marvel or you're a weeabo who likes manga and anime) whereas the french have an appreciation of all genres and mediums whether its french or from another country.

that is why their anime or disney-inspired drawings comes out superior to any shitty weeabo shit we try to copy

>>1990590


oops I meant to quote

>>1986876

>>1989515
Are you the guy who did art for PsychoJosh?

>>1990254
>do you plan to do anything with your art?
You sound like my mom.
I keep telling her im not good enough to be hired.
I cant finish a drawing because I cant find that final piece thats missing

>>1990584
Just a 5 minute doodle. But yea, I wasn't aiming for anything in particular.

>>1990768
sup kyle I really like your art and have saved most of it in a special folder.
I'll be studying you bro

>>1990332
>concept art
> industry
Pic related your concept art and industry. Only rich kids from ARTcenter are allowed

>>1990768
But what do want to be working as?
Cause i mean you are already doing porn commissions right?
>>1990848
Post that folder plz i want to study too

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>>1991023
>>1991023
>>1991023

>>1989826
She could be more like this, more dynamic, I hope it helps you.

>>1989778
can you draw anything other than a dog? try a cat or lizard

I know dogs are common as fuck on FA but if someone comes to you asking for a commission for their bird OC what are you going to do?

>>1991201
>implying I'd even go near that God forsaken place
I do draw other animals, but the drivers for my wacom tablet are fucking up. The service restart trick isn't working.