/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1963827
Start a serious campaign to get the word out. Go to reddit and any shit slinging new site and give them all the info you have on him. Think of the levels of awesome that could be achieved if he got called out.

>Oh wait, his fans would just reject anything bad said against him and would flame you into submission.

Still, he traces screenshots? How do people not realize this? Also how lazy and uncaring can you be to have to trace screenshots with such a huge following and not even bother to change your image in the slightest?

And this is why you study your fundamentals kids. You will never get jealous of plagiarizers knowing you truly are a master at your craft.

>>1963833
I think these are actually less than a day old. or at least very recent

>>1963837
Is that sakimichan?

>>1963838
nah it's Zeronis being copied

>>1963837

the fact that he is making such gigantic bucks is very disheartening though. almost like faith is telling you 'haha you are so dumb. you could be making 10k a month barely working, but no you refuse to trace because MUUUH MOORAAALS'

yeah we are idiots, clearly.

>tfw Kron will never do 3d art

Holy rape batman. I just searched Kr0npr1nz (look at that name, I mean seriously? what did you expect?) 3rd link down or so some guy telling him to reference a ranma picture he copied/traced. Couple of his movie faces look like he straight up painted over a head, and now I am almost positive that he did. I guess you got your pictures from here,

http://imgur.com/gallery/B66jS/

Hilarious. I mean, he really did a great job getting all the money for just tracing bodies, head angles, hair, etc and just drawing generic eyes, nose, mouth onto them and airbrushing it to make it look good. Hell, he probably traced all those faces too. Oh well, people will still pay him.

toppu keki. Is there anyone out of popular DA/tumblr/whatever artists who is actually good (and not a chink)?

>>1963841
Sakimichan makes 26k a month and she doesn't trace. Your excuses are pathetic to be honest. You don't make no money because of "muh morals" you make no money because you are a shit tier artist and you lack initiative.

If someone like Dave Rapoza for example, who already makes way more money than Kron, would start a Patreon and started focusing purely on animu fanart, do you honestly think he wouldn't be successful because he doesn't trace?

I'm going to start a photobash account on DA today and see out it goes. I'll post how much favs and ravesI get in this thread.

>>1963848
You wont get much. ARt is mostly marketing

>>1963849
not if I post it in a bajillion groups maybe

>>1963843
Uh, he even titles those things as studies. How is him doing anime screenshot studies any different from /ic/ doing photo studies?

Didn't know who that was till a few days ago, saw this picture and the first thing that came to mind was "why would anyone want to trace over a figure picture"

please stop, the CA is triggering me.

>>1963852
He should keep it to himself and draw without tracing during his public shit.

Hide your references, especially if you trace to practice.

Sakimichan seems legit for sure.
KP though. I just went through his pics and noticed a bunch of others 5ish? That are highly likely to be screenshots. A bunch that are very highly likely to be paint overs with slight changes, I could almost swear I've seen that patreon face before on a persona picture, but who knows, faces are easy. His ergo proxy one is most definitely a screenshot. Possibly from the OP? I forgot, but I know I've seen it. Tokyo Ghoul pic might be a trace of the scene from the OP last season, or it might just be a re-imagining. Can't say because I'm lazy. The comparison pic between that pic and the one from pixiv is not a fair comparison. That's a scene from the OP of Tokyo Ghoul, and the pics look completely different. However, if you compare KP's pic to the actual OP picture you might find they are very similar, who knows. I see a Mikasa from attack on titan that's obviously a screencap. Most of his Danganronpa artwork is pretty much guaranteed to be from screencaps. A lot of his color work is solid. Seems to be a decent artist with some really shitty habits.

>>1963856
Also I said 5, but I'm pretty sure it's a HELL of a lot more than that. An eerie amount of these pictures on the boorus look surprisingly familiar, and I have a pretty photographic memory when it comes to some animu and games.

>>1963857
I've caught tracers using random japanese bikini girls as references.

>>1963858
I still think it's retarded to post things you trace, even if you touch them up a bit. Like he has no common sense. I doubt it will hurt his profits though. Also, it's pretty clear that he does have artistic talent. Regardless of how much he takes directly from reference.

By the way, this is how you post a bunch of shit in a short amount of time. You take directly from reference. If an artist is constantly posting a bunch of high quality artwork, they are probably being a little shady, just saying.

>>1963859
>If an artist is constantly posting a bunch of high quality artwork

not really, there's this gal who post almost everyday or 2 in pixiv.

>>1963847

no need to project so hard. how much does dave make, and how do you know this?

>>1963855
But he clearly doesn't trace according to the very overlays you linked to. Or do you have a completely different definition of the word "trace"? Obviously his studies resemble the reference he studied, otherwise it wouldn't be a study, but the lines clearly don't line up whatsoever.

Also, why the hell should artists not post their studies if they clearly label them as such?

>>1963863

don't be fucking naive. obviously he pushes and pulls things a little here and there in a pityful attempt to fool himself into thinking he has some crumbs of dignity and legitimacy left.

>>1963851
dA fame is worthless

>>1963863
Looks pretty goddamn close. The least he could do is draw it from a different angle.

>Also, why the hell should artists not post their studies if they clearly label them as such?
The problem is that he might do it all the time, rather than making effort to draw fanart in the method of original poses and such.

>>1963853
>>1963863
He got lazy. He's doing studies from now on.

>>1963863
Yeah, because lasso tool + transform does not exist. You can defend him all you want, but that shit stinks. Bad.

>>1963866
So despite the lines not lining up whatsoever and the proportions clearly being different, he somehow still traced it?

How did he do these subway sketches? Did he take photos of the people he saw, print them out at home and traced over it? I guess that's what he must have done. He sure has a lot of dedication.

>>1963873
That was when he wasn't lazy. Now that the money is piling in, he can just quickly copy a anime reference and call it a study so people don't go "tracer" on his ass.

>>1963872
I'm not really defending him as much as I am defending every fucking artist in the world who i remotely accurate in their drawings. If I post studies online and label them as studies I don't want to be accused a tracer just because they look like the reference.

>>1963875
>That was when he wasn't lazy.

That was january 27th 2015 aka one week ago.

All respect lost. I can't trust this guy anymore. Everything he posts is suspect now. Even his ranma comic is stolen from somewhere according to his comments.

>>1963873

Just because he can draw doesn't mean he isn't a lazy, cheating cunt who will trace something to make sure his patreon requirement are met.

>calls other people lazy while procrastinating on /ic/.

top kek

>>1963847
Don't fool yourself. Sakimichan gets money for being a grrl. Seriously, there are far too many teenage boys on the internet, who are willing to throw money at an artist just because they happen to have tits. It doesn't make them any more productive, nor do they chose better motives because of it, but that's how the internet works.

I'd estimate that she'd be lucky to get 2k a month if she were a man.

>>1963885
You're an idiot. I never care for the gender of the artrists I follow, I follow them because they have nice art.

Now is she was a gurl gamer or something like that I might have agreed with you, but this isn't the case. Heck some artists don't even tell how old or what gender they are just for the sake of anonymity.

>>1963879
He should do more original fanart is what I've been saying.

Not this lazy study shit.

>>1963889
>original fanart
Are you sure about that?
>I mean REALLY sure

>>1963890
This fanart isn't based on any FFXV screenshots that shows Noctis doing this exact same pose and angle.

That's an example I'm talking about.

>>1963892
then it's probably painted over a photo of some chinese prettyboy idol

>>1963888
You don't follow artists because of their gender, but lots of other people do.

https://www.patreon.com/VivienneMedrano

>>1963888

you are an autistic idiot if you think that shit doesn't matter.

i remember myself following girls who drew lewd stuff on da/fu back in my rookie days. and it was literally only the fact that it was a cute young girl drawing these incredibly graphic things that made it so interesting.

>>1963897
>only 1k
That's not alot for a female.
I hope I make that much at least when I make mine.

you guys ARE aware that what he does has nothing to do with "art" right? He is making money. and if making money means tracing or whatever, then he has every right to do so. fuck it even IF he would not make any money with this why do you even care?
Why do you even have this idea of an "artist moral code"? If he wants to trace: let him. instead of dedicating whole threads to this shit why don't you get good at art and make loads of money?
Live and let live.
And yes, I know I am being hypocritical here, but I genuinely want to know why you guys spend so much time hating other artists. /ic/ went down the shitter these past few years...

>>1963903
It is a lot considering the level of work she produces. I'd say that after 2 or so years of posting stuff like this your average anon would have 500 followers at best. If you are at a similar level you should count yourself lucky if people want to look at your stuff for free.

>>1963904
People need to know. This is the Internet, they have a right to know. It does have something to do with art. He's an artist that is constantly discussed on this board, and he is making it as a professional artist, which is what many people here aspire to do.

If this place went down the shitter, you wouldn't be here. You're a disgusting liar.

>>1963903

anon it's a [space] lot. a lot.

this rustles my jimjams ONLY because as a former alot-writing foreigner i have now embraced proper grammer, and thus earned my right to call you out on your shit grammar.

also since i consider myself an absolute retard anything i do successfully you have NO excuse to fail at.

a lot. end of transmission.

>>1963827
Wow. Disappointing.
>>1963841
What's disheartening is that no one realized sooner.
>>1963904
>He is making money. and if making money means tracing or whatever, then he has every right to do so.
Except he doesn't? It's actually totally illegal, yeah?
> instead of dedicating whole threads to this shit why don't you get good at art and make loads of money?
As if it is totally impossible to do both. "Boo hoo, stop talking about things I don't want you to talk about."
Fuck off.

>>1963897
I like her efforts, she seems really hard at work since she's constantly updated with new images of her work.

>>1963913
Good, now learn about capitalization.

Why do you hate me so much?

Leave me alone! :(

>>1963915
I like her work, and I like her style. I think she deserves more than 1k. She doesn't pander though, and that's a huge nono. Original characters and cartoon style? Big nono.

>>1963917
Proof or gtfo.

>>1963917
Delete the studies, stop posting studies, stop using images, credit images you use, stop being dumb. Learn Internet etiquette. You don't have the right to be ignorant with that many followers. They will call you out They think they own you since they pay you. Um. Keep dancing to the tune, and keep producing if you want to keep the cash flow.

>Also stop posing as someone you aren't.

>>1963885
man you are one bitter cunt
I don't even know the genders of the artists I follow. Nobody gives a fuck besides 1: feminazis and 2: paranoid fuckwits that constantly feel disadvantaged like yourself.

>>1963912
I go here like once a month to "check up". I don't enjoy this board like I used to and many of my art friends agree.

>>1963921
>He doesn't care he's banging $1000 hookers every week while you're painting still lifes

>>1963922
Not him, but people actually do care. Mainly men who are obese or nasty, alone, and crave anything female. They will go to amazing lengths to support females, and some of them are probably crazy and think she will eventually want their dicks if they donate enough. Never underestimate the weirdness and stupidity of people on the Internet. Never.

>>1963914
I was talking about you guys acting like it's a big conspiracy.
> "Boo hoo, stop talking about things I don't want you to talk about."
If you want to talk about it, I don't care. I just wan't to know the reason.

>>1963926
>many of my art friends agree.

This sounds so much like one of those ads.
>All the leading experts agree
Welp, if your friends agree, and ALL of them too, then it must be true. Time to leave folks.

>>1963931
You can enjoy this board all you want! I guess there was no point in saying it.

>>1963927
Hey, I have to start somewhere if my end goal is painting animu faces and tracing screenshots to make 6 figures like a boss. Might as well start with still lifes right? I might even show my tits to anyone who pledged 1k or more to my patreon.

>>1963934

>>1963938
>this guy thinks I'm joking
>they all think I'm joking
>i'll show them

>>1963885
So where are all the other girls who make 26k a month for being girls?

>>1963946
They're called prostitutes anon.

>>1963921
>Delete the studies, stop posting studies

Why should he do that? Artists have been posting their studies since forever and there is literally nothing wrong with it as long as you label it a study, which Kron does.

I'd figure /ic/ of all places wouldn't be against posting studies considering all most people on this board do is copy photos all day and whenever we have an improvement chart thread, 99% of the images posted there are studies.

>>1963946
It's just a combination. She has good art, nice colors, picks popular characters, is a girl, has good reward tiers, posts tutorials that seem helpful and talks through them, seems like a fairly normal person who is passionate, has been around for a long ass time with a long track record. I mean, there's a huge number of reasons why she gets so much money. Being a girl probably gets her some patrons, but more are just interested in the other things I listed.

>>1963948
I was talking about female artists with a patreon, Einstein.

>>1963950
>Why should he do that?
This thread and the flack he is currently getting in comments is a perfectly good reason why he should do that. Seems like common sense to me. Studies are just that. Studies. Not work you show others, unless you're asking for critique and trying to improve.

>>1963953
Female pateroners are pseudo prostitution because they get personal preference treatment.

>>1963904
Go away, firez. You are a fucking hack too.

>>1963957
Alright, we get it, you are a permavirgin neckbeard and all females are prostitutes. That still doesn't answer my question though.

I was replying to this statement:
>"Don't fool yourself. Sakimichan gets money for being a grrl"

My question is where are the other female artists with a patreon who make 26,000$ a month. If it is literally only about Sakimichan being a girl and nothing else factors into it, then why is she BY FAR the highest paid female fanartist around? Why is no other female artist with a patreon making even close to that kind of money for being a girl?

>>1963955
Because a bunch of retards don't understand the concept of a study, artists should stop posting studies? Hell no, I love seeing how and what other artists are studying. Again, there is absolutely nothing and there never has been anything wrong with artists posting studies as long as they label them as such.

>>1963973
>and nothing else factors into it
he didn't say it, he didn't imply it. heck, he even posted that he takes it into account >>1963952

being a girl is a multiplier.

>>1963987
>he didn't say it, he didn't imply it
Yes he did, he wrote:
>I'd estimate that she'd be lucky to get 2k a month if she were a man.

That means he assumes that 24,000$ of her monthly patreon income is because she is a girl, so yeah, where are the other female artists that make this kind of patreon money for being girls?

>he even posted that he takes it into account

Not the same guy, if he was, he'd be an idiot who completely contradicted himself.

>>1963993
read what i said:
>being a girl is a multiplier.
tht means if she was a man making 2k, then to get 24k would be a multiplier of 12.

>where are the other female artists that make this kind of patreon money for being girls?
if an artist would normally make 50$ monthly, being a girl would turn it into 600%. 100$ into 1200$ and so on. far from 24k as you can tell.

also, he took into account skill, tutorials, etc. and being a man estimated it to 2k, so he obviously didn't state gender as a sole factor. so your accusations are wrong.

>>1963998
>%
i'm sorry, it was obviously a typo.

>>1963843
>MFW the comments section
>THEY ARENT 100% THE SAME. NOT PLAGARIZED
>this world
>the feels
>kek

>>1963998
This.
Reiqs work is on a similar level to, and just as fanservice-heavy as Sakimi chans, and he gets around 2k a month. https://www.patreon.com/reiq
Also, let's compare him to a group of girls who get the same amount of donations for their art: https://www.patreon.com/girlswithslingshots

Let's be honest though, for your average female artist on patreon, a multiplier of 12 would be stretching it. 5 times as much sounds more realistic I'd say.

>>1964036
Then why does Kronprinz make 12k a month while his work is way worse than Reiq's? He's a dude and the second highest paid artist on patreon with arguably the weakest body of work.

>>1963837
Feels good.

>>1964036
>a multiplier of 12 would be stretching it. 5 times as much sounds more realistic I'd say.

Why the guesswork? It's a multiplier of 2.4. The highest paid artists on patreon are Sakimichan (female) at 1st place with 24,000$ and Kronprinz (male) at second place at 10,000$.

Now if we take into account that Sakimichan is actually better than Kron, has a bigger variety of fandoms she covers, has more reward tiers and does tutorials which Kron doesn't do, it comes down to maybe a 1.5 - 2 multiplier at best.

>>1964036
Both the female artists draw more than just pin ups, sketches, and tutorials though. One has a comic and the other has multiple projects including a "yaoi pack". I doubt that even if they were the same gender, they would have the same profit. Now, I'm not saying that there aren't people that follow artists solely on their gender, but thinking its a multiplier or that it only happens with female artists and male audience is ridiculous. Either way, pick better comparisons.

>>1964098
Kron is a girl

>>1964005

MFW this is actually a Sakimi Chan promotion thread.

>>1964103
nope

>>1964106
based ogawa telling it how it is

>>1964103

Nope he's not. And with that I guess your entire delusional argument shatters to pieces.

>>1964036
>https://www.patreon.com/girlswithslingshots

That girl does webcomics and is way better than https://www.patreon.com/jephjacques who makes 5 times more money.

Guess being male gives you a x5 multiplier when it comes to webcomics.

>>1958585

>>1964036
>have female friend voice over your videos, or hire a voice for ten bucks at freelancer or fiverr
>earn 12k extra each month

That's $10 well spent.

>>1964123
Sorry batman. :)

>>1963833
*traces animu screenshots

well this makes me kinda sad. he was such an inspiration to me, he seemed to be a guy who went to the top and had tons of salty haters. I never thought his art was trite or hacky, but i was the idiot cause it was straight up fuckin stolen from fucking animes.

>>1964106
he literally fucking admitted to being an art thief in. this fucking stinks, this is like finding out your hero is a goddam scumbag. this fucking faggot clearly didn't need the money, he wasn't just starting out and trying to make it up there popularity wise. He just fucking did it. And hes getting 3k a week with stolen art.

god this sucks.

>>1963837
I can't tell who's plagiarising who anymore

>>1963898
Sorry to break it to you anon, but if your first thought is "she's a girl that's why x", then you're the autist

>>1964177
>ignoring the truth in front of your eyes because it doesn't fit your worldview
pure ideology

>>1964186
yes because everyone who doesn't hate women is just an detached, hyperpolitical ideologue. you know, as opposed to just being resentful of women, which is pure and sacrosant and objectively right

>>1963885
I think this too. Im going to do a study on deviant art. With a male and female account profile and post the same stuff on either and see who gets more comments.

>>1964186
>My ideology is the true ideology!
Thanks, anon

>>1964201
Of course girls get more likes, even if the art incredibly is shit.

>>1964213
>cute girls who also post their pictures and actively engage their fans
fixed for the truth

>>1964201
And wasting your time with shit like this is reason #2134 why you will never make it.

http://kr0npr1nz.deviantart.com/critique/541621050/ lmfao

>>1964171
Since when were studies considered plagiarism? Fucking hell man, I don't even like Kron, but noobs like you are trying really hard.

>>1964222
Cant see anything. Got a screencap?

To be fair, he isn't exactly tracing, but it is quite lazy in that he just basically redraws existing work and then adds some crazy filters to it.

But >>1964222 makes him kind of sound like an ass haha.

>>1964197
>everyone who doesn't hate women
>being resentful of women
You've got it backwards. Inequality exists. The world is full of prejudice. Is it so inconceivable to you that there are times where the ones who are disadvantaged because of those prejudices are men? Do you seriously believe that I hate women? Why? Because I pointed out a situation where they are the ones who benefit from prejudice? I'm annoyed by this because I don't believe that artists should be rewarded for something that is irrelevant to the quality of their work.

>>1964222
>it's fine when I do it, because it's a tribute
>everyone else is a stealing scumbag
what a huge babby

>>1964234
>http://kr0npr1nz.deviantart.com/critique/541621050/
there you go, he was doing it since 2011

>>1964267
someone reword this and post under one of his traced drawings

>>1964171
>/ic/
>bringer of light and truth
>on the emphasis of good honest draftsmanship and above all else loomis
>frowns upon plagiarism, photobashing, tracing and immoral actions.

>>1964275
done.

>>1964306
link?

>>1964222
Holy shit
lol

>>1964309
http://kr0npr1nz.deviantart.com/art/Murano-510971251

>>1964309
http://kr0npr1nz.deviantart.com/art/Murano-510971251

it would be so satisfying to see this guy shamed back to 10$ a weekso we don't have to talk about him anymore.

just go on reddit and spread the aids

>>1964317
You fucking idiot.
Anime's art director is in charge of the background art, not the character.

>>1964317
Where's your comment at Anon?

>>1964317
way to go, now let's wait.

>>1964325
Nevermind I found it five years of DA and didn't know the newest comments are found at the last page.

>>1964321
Calm down mate, we got an edit button for a reason.

>>1964329
You could direct the link straight to the traced image.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/thumbnails/max600x600/cms/news/77112/para7.jpg

>>1964317

Someone needs to "fortify" this comment by replying that he agrees and provides a justification to it, by explaining that the guy is accusing others of plagiarism when he's doing it himself. basic psychology, give it momentum.

15 year olds and fanboys are dense as fuck.

>>1964345
But then he will know that the guy who fortifies and the Anon who first posted are together I say we lay low for a bit and then come back later to fortify.

>>1964345
Instead of playing cheap tricks like that, how about different people post variations of this same comment under every image of his that is traced?

>>1964317
good

>>1964357

that will look more like spam rather than actual arguments. repetitiveness can always be blamed as spam. the comments will lose a lot of strength.

at least start with the strongest method and if that doesn't work then lower it to spamming.

Anyone else starting to feel bad?

>>1964222
>>1964267

I don't see the art he commented on, but it's completely possible that the artist claimed that what he made was 100% original. To my understanding, kron says when something is a study in the comments, no? I could see that being the distinction.

>>1964385
This reasoning falls flat when taking into consideration his works that are basically redrawn versions of other peoples' art.

>>1964394
True. Does he always mention when something is heavily reffed/a study? From some posts in this thread it seems like he does some times but not others?

>>1963888
>You're an idiot. I never care for the gender of the artrists I follow, I follow them because they have nice art.

Not the guy you're replying to, but you're crazy if you don't think that being a girl gives you an advantage when it comes to marketing. There are a LOT of people who will be interested in a moderately skillful female that wouldn't be interested in a male of the same skill.

It takes some work, but if you ever try making a dummy account and posting your account under a female persona, you'll see the effect in action. There's a similar effect with being Japanese, btw: a lot of people just like Japanese artists more because they're from Japan. Sakimichan has a Japanese screenname and is a gurl, so it's no wonder she has a shitton of fans.

Not jealous or bitter, this is just basic marketing.

>>1964400
I vouch for this Anon, manager I know talked about random shit one day and he said that in a customer service environment you want females as customer would feel more welcomed and inclined to patronize in the business.

He added on to the conversation that he himself hires nothing but females and the guys he happens to hire are put in the back doing the grunt work.

>>1964403

Is this surprising to anyone? People of both sexes just like women better. There's a bajillion studies to back this up: women are perceived as nicer, prettier, friendlier, and, if you're a lonely male on the Internet, donating to some girl's patreon feels almost like socializing with her.

Only tumblrtards would deny this, because they literally can't imagine a situation in which women aren't an oppressed underclass. Sometimes (oftentimes, actually), being a girl is an advantage.

now someone needs to paste the comment on his newest deviation. posting it on an old one is useless.

>>1964405
>You will never be a girl that gets all the attention and is seen as being nice and look pretty and smell good and have all the advantages.

>>1964036
Well I'm a girl on patreon and I don't really think I get any extra attention because of it.

I was thinking of making youtube videos like sakimi with my cute girl voice and all, I don't think I'd like to show my picture since it's a weird thought to me, and the stuff I draw is pornographic.

The demographic for anime pornography is lonely young males (just being honest), it seems like the approach to go if you have the resources and don't mind getting stalked and/or harassed.

>>1964614

I'm already more interested in your porn drawings than if you were a dude.

>>1964618
why the hell not,
http://keppok.tumblr.com
I'm here all the time.

>>1964570
Oh anon I'm a grill too will you follow me?

>>1964622

demhips.png

>>1964622
Ayy I didn't know you browsed /ic/. I follow you and your boyfriend.

>>1964639
Yep, I do, I go to the porno threads since they're a thing now.

Thanks for liking us

>>1964341
He says he used "original sketches" for reference, that does make it sound like he used his own sketches for ref. Is this another artist's work?

>>1964622
Your stuff is awesome!

Uhhhhh You faggots, I knew it wasn't just random comments, Get good and get off my dick.

>>1964650

mangiare un cazzo

>>1964654
Learn my proportions you faggot, you draw girls like man.

>>1964656

>2015
>not feeling it

>>1964650
>>1964654
>>1964656
>>1964657
Als je zou kunnen leren schilderen, zou dat geweldig zijn.

>M-muh plagiarism
Jesus Christ, could you faggots be any more autistic?

>>1964668
Spoken like a true consumer.

>>1964667
Said the guy that give tons of his works to his assistants to paint.

>>1963914
>It's actually totally illegal, yeah?
No?

Reiq does it and it makes bank off idiots.

The problem is always white knights. Let's assume the super popular Tumblr/Patreon artists got caught red handed tracing. I'd guess 70% of the fans would back said artist, THERE IS NO REAL PROVE THEY DID IT, WELL THEY STILL HAD TO DRAW IT, WELL THEY PUT THEIR OWN TWIST ON THE ART AND I LOVE IT.

I don't understand the mental thoughts of this people, what are they trying to gain by backing artists like this?

>>1965891
Artists like this are popular because of their audience.
Kron and Sakimi are both on D.A, a place full of young (not that talented) artists who look up to their supposed superiors.

To them their methods are valid. These untalented artists are looking for an identity and a means to make art like these guys

It's not so much as consuming art, it's about some sort of ideal and goal for young impressionable, and misguided artists.

Also on top of that, art plebs who know nothing will continue to mindlessly like things that look pretty, they don't really care to understand integrity.

so yeah, kron is going to keep most of his fans and make new ones in the same way without much of a dent.

But, at least there's valid reason to hate on him now.

>>1965891

90% of it is tribal mentality. It's everywhere. It's the same as people who follow sports teams. Hell, you see it on /ic/. People will pick sides on an issue and defend it in every damn thread knowing full well they aren't going to change anyone's mind.

The remaining 10% are people who do trace, want the easy path, and feel this legitimizes their worldview. Whatever floats their boat, at least it's honest. Can't say the same for kronpr1nz, though. Frankly the whole story about him/her being a "storyboarder" in Japan is fishy as fuck.

>>1965912
>>1965921
This shit pisses me off to no end. Not only do the idiots think they are right and defending said artist but then the artist them self gets a bigger ego and can keep doing it.

Then the artist will say something like HATERS GONNA HATE and get 500K likes or whatever.

>>1965941
I have no idea who Kron Pr1nce is. He kind of popped out of no where. But I think he's legit? His patreon page has some animation thing that looks cool. Could he have traced that? I don't know.

>>1965941
>>1965921
>>1965891
One thing I do agree with is the tribal mentality you guys talk about. It can be quite disgusting. I remember talking to someone on twitch who had 5000 followers, she was a decent artist, but of course she draws anime style and clearly learned from tumblr. I didn't even bash her. The dumb fans are answering all her questions as if I was some dumb noob.

Now I kind of sound like I bashed her, but I liked something she was doing with her art. I wanted to ask HER about it. The fucking cunt knights step in like her personal army. Uhg, just go away you fucking hanger ons and leeches.

>>1965955
>His patreon page has some animation thing that looks cool. Could he have traced that? I don't know.

The Kiki and Spirited Away animations on the DA are both paintovers. That Kiki one happens in the first scene of the movie, I'm pretty sure.

>>1964622
the usual suspect was a girl!!!
i see you often around here. i recommend that if you want to record videos, try to learn about noise cancel, EQ and normalize audio, if you want to keep some degree of anonymity besides of not showing your face as you said if it make you uncomfy.

>>1965955
It's your own fault if you presented yourself like a bully. Treat others like you want to be treated yourself.

And to people who accuse kr0n of tracing, you are being ridiculous. You have no proof of him going over the lines or whatever. Yes, he is great at copying and he's not original, but I seriously doubt that he traces. Still, I don't appreciate plagiarism. He gives credit and points out a study when it's a photo or a still, but he doesn't do that with anime and there is a big difference between copying a photo and another artist's work.

>>1965989
Don't talk shit if you can't back it up. You can't prove they aren't original animations, so why are you spreading rumors? Because you're "pretty sure" ? You try to ruin someones reputation over being "pretty sure" ? Not that anyone is going to listen to it, anyway.

>>1966109
let me clarify.

I presented myself kindly asked in a kind way. I like the artist. I totally wish I could intervene and tell her to draw better shit, but I didn't cross that line. So when I ask questions on these artist any of these guys.

I know my place im just some scrub with boring shit, i stay off the streams now.

In other news Sakimichan patreon videos are now on cgpeers. Also if you havent signed up for cgpeers now is a good time to.

>>1966132
Thanks for the heads up, haven't logged into cgpeers in ages.

>>1966190
eeeeeeh that doesn't look good for kron...

>>1966190
No, this cannot be.

What, you people hate Reiq now?

>>1966190
He didn't even state in the submission that it used a reference. He didn't even change the background, literally all he did was blur the bg and vector/paint over kiki and the cat. Then change her face to his normal cut and paste cutie face. The hair in the original has more effort put into it than his. How are people not bothered by this? Is everyone too far gone?

>Wow, amazing work! The quality is superb!
>Great job on the animation.
>i aaam speechless.
>Wow! Very impressive.
>How many frames is this?
>Wow! Very impressive.

"Very good detailing.
As she turns her eyes turn to maintain her gaze. very nice touch. And I note that the only thing in focus is the image in the mirror, mimicking how a camera would capture it. (Although Jiji, being so much closer to the glass, would be less noticeably blurry IMO. - Just a thought. I know it's hard to think of everything. (& Please - come and critique my animations because I'd respect your superior knowledge.))


I'm left wondering why her lips are moving, but presume you're capturing one of those moments when she is talking to Jiji.
Oh - and I like it that she even *has* lips - as so any anime ignore them completely. "

These comments on his page are priceless.

>>1966190
carlos menstealia of art

>>1966190
An animation has more emotion than a traced blur.

>>1966190
When she looks down, it looks AWFUL you can tell he just flipped the image in photoshop.

>>1964400
There is a lot of truth in this, I won't lie. Especially with the japanese name part. It's why a lot of people don't bother reading OEL manga, even if the guy is a master of imitating the style perfectly.

Where is the justice in the world, 4chan? Where is the justice?

what do i need to draw to have the best chances on getting paid via patreon?

>>1966300
Porn with an anime look to it and you need to pander to fans of popular cartoons and anime only.

>>1966291
right here anon *unzips*

>suppliez

>>1966304
back in the day i'd be sure you have a penis in your pants but lately i don't know what to believe.

>>1966304
but I don't see anything
might want to try some male enhancement, little boy

>>1966307
>>1966308
fucking lewd fags, it's just my backpack's zipper.

>>1966303
and whats the best place to do so? since dA is for clean stuff

>>1966333
Tumblr.

I bet you assholes hate on Reiq as well.

>>1966341
not sure if srs

>>1966347
>I bet you assholes hate on Reiq as well.
We are assholes for calling out a dude who blatantly copies half his pictures and does a paintover from our lord and savior Miyazaki sensei. You dirty blasphemous sjw tumblrite.

>>1966363
>We are assholes for calling out a dude who earns tons of money cheating but not us *tears in anger*

FTFY

in any case there are 100000 people tracing/cheating why aren't you guys hating on them? oh wait money.

>>1966347
>BUT HE DID IT BETTER

>>1966300
but really, how doable it is to be able to get paid 1 000 USD / month in lets say 3 years? by crowdsourcing only (not doing commisions) starting from scratch now?

i really need some motivation, but if thats achievable only by hard work, im totally going for it! Im just wondering how hard it is to start the snowball effect in the first place.

i like this thread.
Cant she/he get sued for this. like making money off other people anime content. ik tracing aint that bad but making money off it. hell ima fucking do this shit

>>1966378
Yes. Copyright exists for just this reason.

>>1966368
>in any case there are 100000 people tracing/cheating why aren't you guys hating on them? oh wait money.

You're a fuckin idiot, lol.
>Let him be! There are 100 thousand other people tracing! You so jelly!

Gtfo.

>>1966387
wuaah wuaaah money I want money why ain't I popular like him wuaah

So how much money do you think Kron has saved up in preparation for this big fallout followed by his imminent blackballing from any kind of art job?

How long will it last him before he kills himself?

>>1966378
the thing is, he's not tracing it so therefore he can't be sued

>>1966390
Stop projecting. I have more in my savings account than you'll ever have in your life. That has nothing to do with me calling out blatant scumbags. You might literally be the stupidest person on 4chan tonight, and that's a title you have to work hard to earn.

>>1966399
>Stop projecting. I have more in my savings account than you'll ever have in your life.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh look out people, rich money man is here!
PROTIP: I can shoot xray farts

>You might literally be the stupidest person on 4chan tonight, and that's a title you have to work hard to earn.

but you're born with that talent. jellyman.

>>1966399
>You might literally be the stupidest person on 4chan tonight

you can never be the stupidest, no matter how shitty you are, somebody is always lower
"things can alwazs get worse"

Another

>>1966403
You're trying so hard to defend your butthurt. Must be pretty important to you.

>>1966399
There will be no fallout, because of people like >>1966403
and blind fanboys.

>>1966377
hard work entails depression and desire to kill yourself. are you REALLY ready for it?

>>1966405
why the fuck dont you even change the SIMPLEST background ever? i mean cmon, how hard it its to change one stroke spiral?

>>1966407
nice samefag skills

>>1966405
Is there not an original bone in this guys body? It's like he is just doing it to troll people.

>>1966411
I am only me. Deal with it kiddo/depressed angry manboy.

>>1966190
It's like JJfrenchie's animation but traced and shitty.

>>1966405
Another
This is my last. I have better things to be doing than calling out this faggot.

>>1966408
yes, because ill be out of university (studying biology) in 3 years and im doing jack shit. So i hate to think that the only thing being different after those 3 years would be having a degree.

im kinda at that point when i dont want to waste my life anymore

time to unfollow him on tumblr, hoo boy.

I wasn't a huge fan but he doesn't need another follower.

>>1966416
>Deal with it kiddo/depressed angry manboy.
>says the depressed angry one that doesn't work on his own art and set as an example for others rather than just taking others down.

>>1966425
Oh yeah? I can't post here in my free time to call out tracers while I work on my art when I feel like it? Sorry mom, I didn't know.
Also I'm happy as shit.
Also, how much are you donating to him? If nothing, why not?

hmmm, i wonder why janitor hasn't deleted this thread yet. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>1966443
You're so autistic it's sickening.

Remind me to never piss you faggots off to the point you start to stalk and dig up dirt against me and go on a witch hunt. Is this why you are all reluctant to post your personal work that actually sells and makes a name for you?

>>1966449
yeah, getting stalked hunt by losers is never gonna be a good day.

>>1966449
duh

>>1966453
>>1966449

Don't worry, neither of you will ever have to worry about it.

Neither does anyone else who doesn't trace shit for a living. This is common sense 101.

>>1966050
I wasn't really hiding it, but I guess normally you'd expect selfies and pandering and yadda yadda, but I'm very content with my relationship and not literally whoring myself out.
I used to do shitty letsplays years ago, so I think I'm pretty alright with audio configuring.
But fuck I don't even know what to say, I don't think I have anything innovative enough to demonstrate other than "color dis shit, I duno".
>>1964638
it's what I like
>>1964649
thanks a lot, I try.

>>1966363
How can you copy your own picture an why would it matter?

>>1966449

Looking at the comparison pics, I'd say we've found his flying broom, his black cat, two tiny corpses in his oven, and the manuscript for "Yes, I am a Witch, an Autobiography" in his study.

>>1966456
yet this thread is a perfect proof and example of the hunt.

you're just too stupid to see it.

>This is common sense 101

you're lacking it.

>>1966456
Well just look at what happened to Teal he was a positive influence yet you faggots picked up pitch forks and started to dox for no apparent reason other than sheer autistic anger fueled by jealousy and a bruised ego.

I used to suck all of your dicks thinking you where the greatest but after I got decent and realized just how big of a cunt Artists are you're all just faggots.

>>1966418
plz dont stop, this has potential. maybe people will pull their patreons little by little if it gets to some gamergate level of drama.

>>1966460
This one is too stupid to make any sense, or too foreign to comprehend, not sure which.

>>1966462
This person, same story.

What is this, retard night on /ic/? I mean, most nights are bad, but tonight is special (literally).

>>1966463
sorry newfag here. i've seen many posts about this teal guy lately. what's up with him?

>>1966467
it's because you're here.

>>1966469
he makes big buck with traced fanart and animation.

>>1966463
The doxing is not by everyone on /ic/. Just a few people who get off to the thrill of it all.

>>1966463
What did teal do, and what happened to him?

I can say without any doubt that kr0npr1nz deserves whatever he gets. If you can't see that, then you're a dumbass.

>kr0npr1nz
>reiq

LETS ALL HATE ON POPULAR ARTISTS

Please delete this thread.

>>1966473
TEAL you fucking idiot, not kr0npr1nze. Damn dude, at least try to comprehend. What the fuck man.

>>1966476
Teal didn't do a thing, really what started it all was a hint of pussy then people wanted to find their Tumblr because of that and one of you posted Teal's Tumblr, feelings got hurt after looking at Teal's website and sjw's cried for blood basically.

>down to $2,600
https://www.patreon.com/KR0NPR1NZ

What have you done, /ic/?

>>1966482
>https://www.patreon.com/KR0NPR1NZ
What was it earlier?

I refuse to believe is a sustainable, long lasting source of income. I wonder how long backers tend to stay on average?

>>1966483
The imgur link up there says he was near 3000 on Jan 30.

>>1966482
Why is Onta/Doxy a top supporter? I thought he'd be smarter than that.

>>1966483
It was over $10k or some shit.

Dunno how much Patreon values fluctuate, but that number is so damned ridiculous I'm not surprised it dropped.

>>1966484
well he is decaying on quality , he doing bs tracing lately

>>1966447
No. It's because he deserves to be hated. Plenty of evidence ITT. Before the janitor thought we were just jelly.

>>1966491
>lately

>>1966405
>>1966418

>>1966492
>he deserves to be hated.

top kek, you'll probably murder him IRL if it was legal just because he earned by copying/cheating. small wonder why they call 4chan the land of the hate.

>>1966496
>small wonder why they call 4chan the land of the hate.

4chan is a backwater cesspool of the internet, nobody calls it anything.

I like his old stuff.

>>1966496
>muh hate

There's no such thing as hate my friend. Only anger. Lots and lots of anger to the point you start to enjoy the anger.

I guarantee you, if someone spent the time, they could post a "reference" pic for every single thing in his gallery. I wouldn't really even care if he wasn't using the exact body and mostly the exact BG, sometimes blurred a bit for each of this pictures. Yeah, it's a witch hunt, but fuck this guy. He isn't getting called out because he makes money, well mostly. He's getting called out because he's in the spotlight. Fuck anyone who does this shit. If I find someone who does, I'll call them out too.

>people defending a tracer/plagiarizer
ignoring the fact he makes more money on art than all of us, why defend him?
I mean whenever I think of any artist doing this I feel mild annoyance or nothing.

Why white knight him on 4chan wtf?

whats this guy look like?

>>1966504
it's not whiteknighting him as much as showing how hypocrite people are.

>>1966496
I seriously doubt it. You're just trying to justify defending him and being retarded. You're making assumptions about us, but we're not making assumptions about kr0npr1nz, we're stating facts with proof to back it up.

Someone should link Kr0nz here, unless he already is here and is one of us who shills his name like that faggot Luvisi until it backfired.

>>1966508
I see people assblasted that kron is getting called out and insults being thrown around, I wouldn't call it "showing people how hypocrite they are"

>>1966511
Who else would make weekly threads about him?
Hell I even saw a thread 3x3 thread on /a/ using nothing but his art.

What really are the chances all of some anon's favorite anime happen to be shows Kron has done fanart for?

So if kr0n strated making, what /ic/ would describe, as original work, would you respect him?

>>1963827
HOLY SHIT!

Why is Onta/Doxy a top supporter? I thought he'd be smarter than that.

Is this as bad as Rob Liefield?

>>1966509
>You're making assumptions about us

are you stupid? this thread is a full proof about what lengths you people go just to shit on others.

sure you would say he deserved to some degree it but seriously some source of you people's hatred is because he gets big dosh and popularity doing something like it, there's also maciej and the rest you can go start witchunting them also.

>>1966519
no
as a german, kr0npr1nz is the worst god damned nickname you could POSSIBLY give to yourself. i cringe everytime i have to read that obnoxious fucking name.
just came itt to say this. this entire plagiarism issue doesn't even faze me as i don't care about this person either way. but that name..

>>1966519
Define original work, I always use references on my Animu even though I don't directly reference or even watch Animu yet I reference models can I say it is original or would I humbly throw out that I used a model?

>>1966522
because he makes enough to scope out other artists who are successful and probably adopts some of kron's techniques.

not that it's taking the highroad, but it helps him in some roundabout way.

that or doxy has shit taste which doesn't surprise me.

>>1966523
No, he as bad as his art is doesn't trace. You're thinking of Greg Land.

>>1966528
Original compositions, can still do fan art or straight portraits but otherwise invented.

>>1966526
it's not that people want to shit on Kron, it's that everyone loves drama and since it's been proven a popular artist s doing some questionable shit, people want to gossip about it.

Would be the same for any artist.

>>1966519
I wouldn't. First of all, his name is retarded leet script kiddy incarnate. His title under his name on DA is "wuv u" , and he claims to be a lead story artist / lead artist for a Japanese studio. at the tender age of 24. Not that it's completely impossible, but eh.. He blatantly steals things without giving any credit whatsoever. I don't think there's a single redeeming factor to this guy, and no, I would never respect him. He done fucked up son.

>>1966526
>witchhunting = calling people out for their bullshit?
Consider it done, cupcake.

>some source of you people's hatred
You call this passtime hatred? Stop projecting shitshow.

>>1966537
>calling people out for their bullshit?
>while being bullshit themselves

top kek.

>>1966540
>has nothing of value to argue about
>ur art sucks! so you can't call people out for tracing
>insert insultmeme of the month topkek lels

>>1966542
>implying his shit argument is worth refuting properly

double top kek

>>1966534
So what would you call this?

>>1966542
lol so true, as if regular people cant distinguish between crap art or not , as in crap movies or crap books.

>>1966545
top kek

>>1966546
>muh taste opinion, superior taste opinion

>>1966545
crap art

>>1966543
then you can leave, goodbye
>>1966545
an artist that needs to get better and stop relying so much on reference. i'm gonna assume he copied those eyes too, and possibly other parts since he feels the need to rely on reference so heavily.

>>1966557
>then you can leave, goodbye

and miss owning you guys? no way!

>>1966558
who let their child on the internet?
>owning you guys
just say you want more attention man, we understand

>>1966564
not from haters like you though, I don't want to get stalked hunted by haters.

>>1966567
what the fuck is with all of the retarded "trolls" n /ic/ lately. this is like the slowest board that stirs up the least shit unless d/ic/ks are bitching about our secret private art stuff

>>1966567
no one cares about you kiddo, you don't even art, so don't worry about ever being part of a witch hunt by a bunch of h8rs. you can fill up your empty heart by trolling 4chan to your heart's content.

people need to stop linking this board on retarded sites.

>>1966570
just because you're getting owned doesn't mean you can just easily call me a troll.

>>1966572
I can still art better than you though

>>1966574
you inspired me to make an image.

>>1966579
be sure to make it troll_merc_wip.

>>1966578
prove it

>>1966584
then post your shit art so we can compare it.

>>1966557
>an artist

No one's ever called me that, I don't know how to feel.

The Japanese like to keep wikis and archive 2ch threads for these kinds of things (though mostly novels/literature) I wonder if he'll get into them since his target for plagiarizing are Japanese media.

google トレパク wiki or トレース・パクリ wiki or something similar, the results probably depends on your region.

>>1966504
Maybe it's someone who does something similar for a living and is paranoid. Maybe it's a donator trying to justify his donations. Maybe it's a hardcore fan or the artist himself. Maybe it's just another anon pretending to be retarded.

>>1966582
Nope, it's a collage.

>>1966190
>>1966305
>>1966405
>>1966418


why isn't any of his plagiarism in a big scandal in thread in the best scandal website, reddit ? instead of this shithole where light cannot reach ? nobody can see anything in hear. either this or post it on his most recent work on DA with imgur mirror links.

>>1966604

I love those nice stripes
>that intensity

>>1965852

tracing someones art and selling it as your own is illegal and any lawsuit against kron can and will be easily won

>>1966608
someone post it on reddit because I don't have one or even know how to use it

>>1965955

yeah its called rotoscoping, tracing over already animated things and adding in or drawing your own characters over characters thats already there moving, so you dont have to do any work, this is very easily done in flash

Does anyone feel horrible about what's inevitably going to happen to him? Yeah what he did was fucked up but this could destroy his immediate life. All his hopes and dreams shattered in the blink of an eye.

I feel pretty bad about all this.

>>1966615
then next time dont be a lousy cheater. he knew what he was doing, you cant tell me that drawing over someones animation doesnt take time. all that time spent looking at the shit he was stealing while he was stealing it, he deserves what he'll get

>>1966615
Could be worse.

>>1966615
>Does anyone feel horrible about what's inevitably going to happen to him?
No, gods no. Stupidity has a price. The fact that he was calling people out for copying art and then come to find out he has been tracing mostly all of his art make it so much more deserving. I might feel bad if he only did it occasionally, or if he was a decent person, but nah. Not worth feeling bad about this one.

>>1966613

anyone has a a Da/reddit account to blow this up on his most recent deviation ?

>>1966615
that's colateral dmg, the point is not to ruin his life, it's to show what he does. and if people do not care even after that so be it. but it still needs to be seen.

>>1966615
I don't feel bad because it's where he would be if he didn't trace/plagiarize.

Hey kron, I know you're here. How about earning a fanbase based on your own skill and talent rather than "reinventing" other, better artists' works.

>>1966627
Who did he accuse of copying? Just curious

>>1966632
Nigger it takes all of 2 seconds to make an account.

>>1966615
BREAKING NEWS

Nothing is going to happen to him, nothing at all trust me. His fans will stick by him.

>>1966637
Look at the collage pic.

>>1966615
Judging from the worship thread /v/ had for him and his work, this might not do much.

>>1966632
Reddit:

King_Noah
pass: basednoah

>>1966511
oh when was that? does anybody have that screencapped or somthing?

yeah newfag here

>>1966644
Nothing might happen to him, but lets let the people who support him decide when they have the information. I know for a fact I would pull my payment to him if I knew this shit.

>>1966648
Well, his art looks amazing from the outside. I mean, it should since he is basically taking it from other amazing artists and adding cute features to them.

i know there enough evidence but ill just leave this here.

>>1966661
different angle mate, you must be blind. at most it's heavily ref and copied but traced it is not.

How do you know he's tracing? He most likely using the images as a reference.

>>1966666
>>1966668
Kron apologist, fuck off already.

>>1966666
Maybe because it isn't actually from the concept art, and is from an anime screencap where she looks exactly like that, uniform and all? Just saying, you can't even give him the benefit of the doubt at this point.

>>1966671
>being this mad

>>1966675
>being this delusional

>>1966676
>said the jelly

>>1966549
>>1966555
>>1966557
Fucking right?

>>1966679
Guy draws image from REAL REFERENCE PHOTO, not SOMEONE ELSES ART.
>clear differences between them

Fuckin right, mate.

>>1966681
by that I mean look at the bulldog, look at the man. He didn't trace over the top of an image. Like some lesser evolved beings such as the one that this thread is about.

>>1966681
Didn't Rockwell go shoot his own reference to boot?

>>1966649

you really don't want to get shit on your hands do you

>>1966686
Yep, he staged his own photographs for references.

i looked up to kr0npr1nz mane. :(

>>1966608
well...i just started following this kr0n person on instagram yesterday. on a whim, went to deviantart to look at a friends portfolio and saw kr0n on the front page. then someone linked to 4chan. now i know. paintovers...i don't see an issue with, they're interesting. but good god i did not realize all this persons body of work is just paintovers. what the fuck. the last time i saw this much paintover is when some photoshop whelp was getting taught on how to compose on the coceptart forums

>>1966704

if only it was just for fun, not selling them for 60+ dollars each and making a shit ton off of other people's work.

>>1966615

oh im sure he is crying all the way to the bank and not laughing his ass off at all the money he easily cheated out of people

rabid fans will defend anything anime related, even art thieves, as long as its animu

>>1966714
exactly!

>>1966744

I really like this jesse guy

>that sinergy with jimbo

String of more images to come....detective work is tiring

those so-called train and cafe sketches were a hoax too gotta find me somewhere a girl will pose for me in cosplay like this

I really hate this guy. i hope he gets sued

>>1966825
>>1966822
>>1966820
>>1966819
>>1966818
>>1966817

Great work. Just as my suspicions warned me. Every single picture he has ever done is a copy. At least he learned to draw or at least copy and line up eyes, noses and mouths. Oh, that and he learned how to make decent lines, airbrush and add highlights. I mean, that makes him a half artist right? A stealing bastard of one, but an artist nonetheless.

damn, wanted to post something with a new account since I don't have one, but I guess they have a system that forbidens comments for newly made accounts and consider them as spam. too bad.

btw for all those white knights out there....these aren't exact copies but how much borrowed content is in this dude's gallery?? Theres a bunch more that I just can't find the frames for but they do exist. Point of all this is to show that he's all over the place

>>1966834
>>1966837

damn man, you're pretty good at finding the sources. keep it up.

>>1966834
he still gets my 20 bucks patronage though.

At this point I'm less concerned with the plagiarism, and more impressed by your detective skills. You must kick ass at Concentration.

LOL you can help me...just google the title of the piece and google images will lead the way

I'm more upset about his art being under photoshop filters. Shit looks ugly.

>>1966894
This one is just too much, I honestly laughed.

I think this is really a knife in the heart of everyone who took years of work and studys and is at least trying to bring up some original content, while this dude gets all the money from said persons for just heavy referencing and tracing other peoples work.

this is so fucking sad. I really looked up to him i feel so betrayed.. Have anyone thought of contacting Patreon about this? because it's really unfair he gets that shitload of money for just coping shit while other talented artists barely afford a living just saying

>Portfolio
http://maadartist.daportfolio.com/gallery/557685#2

>>1966939
I wonder how much traced stuff is in his comics

>>1966936
https://www.patreon.com/contact
I already e-mailed them asking about their policy on plagiarism for an entirely different reason earlier, still waiting for a response

but yeah you can ask them about it there, their customer service is pretty chill at least most of the time and do read shit.

http://comments.deviantart.com/4/8799305/3737077229
Sad that some people actually praise this fucker for hard work and see what he does as an inspiration.

If this is the future of art, then it is very bleak.
Love of the craft and hard work isn't recognized anymore, just the results.

>>1966993
As someone already said in the thread nothing is as bad white knights, that Anon also said they tend to also spat out HATERS GONNA HATE. Which this guy did.

guys please, repot him on patreon. :)

>>1966987

keep us updated, although this thread will reach limit soon, just make a new thread about this fucker.

Please stop this. I didn´t mean to

you are hurting me :(

Stop this hate against me... I´m crying...

I don't think he traces,but i have to agree,he's not very original...
He's using other artists poses,lightning,ideas...etc to make money. I myself am a fan of Shigenori Soejima and i also mimic his characters characteristics like Kr0npr1nz (the way he draws the faces,since the first time I saw it,i loved them so much that now I can't draw those generic anime faces anymore),but at least i do all the poses,ideas and etc by myself. This guy takes to much credit for something that is 90% already made. Well,at least the guy knows how to paint...

to keep it together

>>1967107
This is the most active and productive I've ever seen this board.

>>1967063
are your evil criminal tears hitting the thousands of dollars you con'd out of people? aw... poor baby, poor you

you fucking faggot art thief! delete your patreon and deviantART plz

Good job to the anon tracking down the original images. You're an ace sleuth.

This entire situation is really saddening though.

>>1967210

I am not a criminal! Why are you calling me a criminal?

Stop this please! Leave me alone.

I work hard I am not a criminal...

T_T

>>1967271
Ur a fucking criminal shut up

HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU WORKING HARD.

>>1967344

Well isn´t obvious? by drawing the cutest anime drawings on da...

You guys hurt my feelings when you call me such terrible names like criminal. Brings tears to my eyes so please stop and lets be friends :)

Ok?

>>1967353
Are you twelve?

>>1967353
What kind of stupid answer is this?

>>1967374
>>1967376

Ok then FUCK YOU ! and learn Loomis!

time to search an image for my next drawing

so long... LOSERS!

>>1967374
>>1967376
I can't tell if these are post-ironic replies or new sincerity at it's finest.

>>1967379
I hope you burn in hell you piece of shit

>>1967353
What about all those artists you stole everything from? Did you think adding your faces to their works made them any happier? I'm sure they're crying, just like you.

BREAKING NEWS: He's going to rip a frame from this next! Keep your eyes and ears open boys and girls!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc_9r4wifFc

>>1966615
>dude steals from other people
>gets caught and called out on it
>'don't you, like, feel bad about what's going to happen to him now?'

Copying compositions, colorchoices and designs like a monkey is utterly uncreative, but if you're willing to cite the references you are using there's nothing wrong with it. Taking credits for the choices another artist has made and pretending that they are your own, is fraud.

>>1967271
>>1967063
DELETE your patreon and will stop, we want JUSTICE
other honest artists can't pay they own food while you earn a lot of money for copying and plagiarizing ideas/pics, and you don't even feel bad.
"Please be honest with yourself."

more

>>1967466
He ripped off Oyasumi Punpun?
That fucking sucks, Asano Inio already gets as much shit as it is

>>1967468
>2nd hand tracing
Disgusting.

>>1967063
>>1967271
Stop falling for the troll

Also, hello everyone coming in from this thread being linked on Facebook.
READ THE STICKY.
Post in draw threads and don't make new threads for your art.

New Thread:

>>1967430
>>1967430
>>1967430

House is clearly traced here. Compare with the animu girl shitty quality.

>>1967465
THAT IS WHAT WE WANT. JUSTICE! this dick will not yield obviously cuz his fake ass needs support while he lives abroad in japan.

>>1966395
have you ever used photoshop you retard. you can trace and paint over the image. transform skew and warp tool that shit so its not bang on. but most of these are bang on. people who are tracing arent making money like this guy. so yes it has to do with money but it also has to do with morals and destroying the art community. if this persists yeah whats stopping others from doing it… absolutely nothing and then you can say goodbye to good original art.

>>1966511
He was linked here he responded with baby talk. saying, these words make me tear up, cant we be friends?

>>1966526
you're an idiot.

>>1967409
he made so many artists cry, oh my!

moar

seems like this is WORKING.

he already lost 400$ per week in just a matter of a couple of hours!

>have we started the fire ?
>yes, the fire rises.

>>1967930
>has more patrons now

>>1968110
>has less money now

>>1967930
He says that he lost it before all this shit, with some patron giving him those 400-500$ erlier.

>>1967466
even the shading and lighting he traced.

holy shit, this is awful.